The Scandal that RUINED Yu-Gi-Oh (Almost) | Yu-Gi-Oh TCG
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 พ.ค. 2023
- Yu-Gi-Oh was a juggernaut in the early 2000's and quickly became that era's best selling card game. Despite its success, a lawsuit between the two companies involved in the TCG's distribution almost brought the Yu-Gi-Oh Trading Card Game to a halt in Europe and the Americas.
This video details the story of some of Yu-Gi-Oh's most infamous fake cards, and how they almost ended the game as we know it. This is the story of Konami vs Upper Deck Entertainment.
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Konami Drags in Upper Deck, and the source of the "Mutually Assured Destruction" quote:
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Dutch Court Sides with Upper Deck:
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Konami Wins:
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It sounds like Upper Deck were basically just a criminal organisation using their official connection with Yugioh to produce convincing counterfeits.
I'm pretty sure they were involved with Pokemon TCG too and caused problems there, though I might be getting things confused.
@@LordTyphpokemon was WoTC and then they had deals with Topps for non tcg trading cards iirc.
Nothing has changed with Upper Deck.
Upper deck was preying on the counterfeit market
Konami is an evil company, upper deck was merely stupid. Konami has one of the most hostile workplaces on earth, they micromanage and humiliate their employees.
My dad once bought me some Yu-Gi-Oh cards, he didn't know they were fake but I'll never forget one card telling me to "shake the elbows three times and deal damage times 300"
😂😂😂.
The jokes Little Kuriboh said when this was going on was pretty hilarious too "Kaiba we may hate each other as much as Konami hates Upper Deck now, but we have to focus and WORK together"
He also wasn't wrong when he said "yugioh: the only card game endorsed by Satan"
I attended upper deck day. It was awesome. So much stuff was given out. It was quite obvious they just wanted to cash out and get rid of their product before they had to burn it.
I remember upper deck day. That was actually a scam. The one I went to in New Jersey had an address and there was no event there. Like 10 people drove out there and stood around for an hour before leaving
Crazy!
- Adam
I would have protested. Stores aren't allowed to advertise something then not deliver.
I spit out my apple juice when you said Konami would be concerned over quality control 😂😂😂😂
the ocg kind of is, the tcg on the other hand...
The 2000s was a strange time.
I can confirm that ocg cards are Far thicker than tcg.
@@r3zafulKorean OCG cards are similar to TCG cards imo.
"The poorer quality of these cards could cause irreparable damage too Konami's brand identity and have public perception of their product quality drop"
*Cut to modern YGO cards*
"Or if you're Irish, communion money" lol yup, that line made my day.
It's funny there was a time when the Yu-Gi-Oh TCG cared about the reputation of its card quality that much. I know the OCG has always had better everything, but these days the card quality control over here has declined to comical levels. I'm not saying Konami of America/Europe is Wizards of the Coast bad, but it's a real shame that with the rise of popularity of TCGs in the west the quality seems to be on an inverse trajectory, especially since all of Bandai's games have released the same standard of quality control for their cards as they do in Japan. Least we don't need to deal with the bozos from upper Deck anymore.
Crazy story though, this was a great video highlighting some juicy history of the Yu-Gi-Oh TCG. Really hope this one gets some traction, it was very well done. I'm curious who edits these, because I think Carl's the main editor (could be wrong) and I don't see him being able to do such deep dive references while editing for a game he doesn't play.
Thanks, hopefully this becomes one of those evergreen hallmark videos for anyone who ever searches for it!
Carl is our creative director focusing mostly on Magic content, while editing and animation for all Yu-Gi-Oh produced media is done by our wonderful editor/animator Carolina, and occasionally myself.
- Adam
@@CardmarketYGO Well I'll be sure to share it when citing this event.
Ah, well you both did a great job.
I loved this style of video! Great detail and provided a lot of context behind the situation back when I was a kid. Keep up the great work Adam! Hope to see more of this in the future.
Looking forward to making more similar kinds of videos, detailing interesting parts of Yugioh's History!
- Adam
I had always wondered why Upper Deck got the boot off Konami. And I was a legal judge for Upper Deck YGO and then all of a sudden my contact person here in Sweden just wrote a mail "there are some problems, there wont be any sanctioned tournaments for a while".
Dude, i completely lost my shit at "Sealed Dark Big Rabbi". Holy shit. 😂
i know nothing about Yu-Gi-Oh, i just watch for Adam x
I know nothing about TazzzyBears, but thank you ❤️
- Adam
The best summary of the situation I've watched to date
Thanks! It took hours of legal paper digging to find everything!
Knew somewhat about the upper deck situation but cool to know the relatively full story about it now.
This whole situation reminds me of what happened to the card game chaotic. It was huge for a very short time then one company sued another and it was ent allowed to make cards. Which is a shame cos it was a super fun game I preferred it to yugioh. And it was a juggernaut sales wise where I could have seen it being up there with yugioh,mtg and Pokémon as a 4th game
Not the same nor had that ended
chaotic stoped because they rented rights for the game iff a asian comoony that owned the game then made a show and the western producers tried claim ownwrship of the entire thing that legal battle hone on for over a decade and last time i check it was finishing uo back before oandemic and planed a return but went silent after that
I really don't get how Upper Deck thought counterfeiting the 3 promos would go unnoticed. Of course Konami would end up noticing. Like these arts/or rarity were not suppose to exist yet. They greed for some extra cash in the moment and that cost them their compagny. It's sad but they deserved to fall with what they did.
I had a ton of fake yugioh cards back in 03-05 😂 I distinctly remember the BEKAS card shown at 6:56, my brother and I still reference those bad knockoffs to this day. They also smelled really bad, like some sort of strong solvent which could've easily caused some brain damage...
The smell bro. It smelled like burnt/molded cardboard 😂😂😂
Konami were well-known for lawsuits throughout the 2000s, they certainly didn't mess around during this time... (how fitting that this video comes up while Konami is suing Cygames)
Unlike a lot of other legal pursuits around this time (anyone remember In the Groove?) Konami definitely had much more fair ground here, though they really went around it in a wild way here LOL. pretty funny to see how little things have changed...
Great vid about a sort of unknown beef, its famous to an extent but this was very detailed and really well made! Keep it up Cardmarket!
I heard about this but never really got into detail. Thanks for history lesson :)
Props to Adam and the scriptwriter (might also be Adam! Not too sure but if someone else wrote the script, I wanted to shout them out too.) Well-explained in an interesting way. Great video!
Fantastic video my guy! Well researched, well narrated, really well edited.
P. S. come back to gamers world we miss you
Really enjoyed this video. Honestly surprised I had never heard of this. Appreciate the research.
I remember I got one of those blisters, similar to Duel King 2, at a Toys R Us in the LA area in 2008 when I culminated from 5th grade but the promos my blister had were the Aqua Neos, Electrum, and Flute of Summoning Kuriboh and they came in standard sized Ultra Pro sleeves(with Larry Elmore art on it) that I still have. Also, back during the sneak peek days of the GX era they used to have promo shirts based on the sets that were releasing and for Hobby League as well, I think those were also an Upper Deck idea since those shirts stopped releasing after early 5Ds era (2008).
I've been waiting for this! I a proud subscriber of the resleevables and the old podcast version of the resleevables had a wonderful rendition of this because Patrick Sullivan worked for them at the time.
I'm not really interested in this topic but like you guys so popping it on.
Thanks! Hopefully you were satisfied!
- Adam
Could you discuss the conspiracy theory behind The Anime Art of Dark Magician, Blue-Eyes White Dragon, Red-Eyes Black Dragon? The Conspiracy being they made the Millennium Tablet art in conjunction to the UDE lawsuit and lost the rights to the anime artwork. So Konami limits the usage of the anime artwork and often just (LAZILY IMO) use the Millennium Tablet Artwork when it comes to importing those three iconic cards instead of using the obviously more popular artwork from the anime that made the card game itself a cultural phenomena the world over.
I haven't found concrete evidence for this theory, it's just wild speculation for trying to quell the nerves whenever DM, BEWD or REBD get reprinted with probably some of their least favorited artwork (Which is just my speculation)
Does Upper Deck own Air Neos in the TCG?
My man really called baseball cards a trading card game ;)
I was big into football and baseball cards in the 90s, and Upper Deck were one of the REALLY big names (along with Topps, Donruss, and Fleer), and always had incredibly high quality products.
Baseball Trading Cards aren't a "game".
They're a way of life.
- Adam
Extremely well done video! props.
Thanks, hopefully I helped inform you of how it all went down!
- Adam
@@CardmarketYGO I was familiar with the base story for a while now, but you filled in many intricate details.
looking forward for more!
Man this channel is so underrated!! I watch all of your vids
I remember pulling so many Ultis from the packs back then. They were always so thin and scratched to hell and back. Say what you will about Konami and quality control, but Upper Deck was worse.
So I was a YuGiOh judge and hobby store co-owner at the time all this went down. I remember general confusion around the Upper Deck day from my regulars as well as an increase in counterfeit cards coming into the store, generally from a local fair. One thing I will note as well to add to the story that I clearly recall was receiving a package from Upper Deck around the time I heard Konami would be taking over. It was full of booster boxes and swag as a 'thank you' for all the years blah blah. I cannot recall if it was sent to me for being a judge or the store, but I think it was to long-time judges (had been one since 2003).
This story would make a great documentary/mini series
The wildest part of this is that people dont even acknowledge that Konami scams its players much worse by rarity bumping from the OCG, by short-printing, and by monetizing people's gambling addictions.
This was mentioned to my FB yesterday and this appeared today. What a coincidence 🤣
Upper deck were mental!
Great video
interesting history. thanks, cardmarket.
Konami vs 4Kids should be interesting too
Juicy. Maybe one day!
- Adam
Talking about 4Kids as a whole would also be worth the time too. They changed the shows SO MUCH, they essentially became another entity.
Omg how was I never aware of this :O
Konami still has a grudge towards upper deck by excluding us from promos and qcr especially from ocg
Can we get a game with some of these goofy counterfeit cards and you guys try to play with them? I think that would be a hilarious video
Thank you Adam
There was more of a mixed transition than you mentioned. Ie a bunch of European nationals were still ran by ude despite having already lost the court case.
UDE Europe is actually quite a sad story, with them never being involved in the shenanigans of UDE America. Sins of the father kind of thing.
This is potentially why they still ran events, as a part of an easing out for UDE Europe, as opposed to the American branch just getting completely removed immediately.
- Adam
I hate to admit it but i miss those packs lol. Walmart had those by the boatload lol.
Fun fact: Up until a few minutes ago, I thought that Brock’s rice ball were just what was considered a doughnut in Japan.
Why not? He said there was jelly in them. Last week I saw someone put a pickled plum in a rice ball. I didn’t even bat an eye.
So, wait, is that what happened to the "Yu-Gi-Oh! Sized" sleeves then? I used to love them! They were bigger than Small and smaller than Standard (used by all the others,, Digimon, Magic, Pokémon) and the cards weren't as snug or as much of a pain to get in!
Plus, Bandai originally printed Yu-Gi-Oh! cards...
Honest what a wild story
never thought I would be rooting for Konami in a lawsuit
I actually played yugioh on Game boy advance before it was on TV where I live
I think I still have 1 of those
this is like a vsauce 2 video
Actually having silver eyes of Anubis was Just cause the Card was unlimited and Not First edition. But If it's First and have the silver eye it's obviously a Fake 🤷♂️
If I got a nickle everytime legal action happen over localization of Japanese IP in the west, I would be a millionaire.
Man this guy nailed my childhood
imagine there was no way to differenciate the reals from the fakes... L from upper deck
And now konami themselves are dropping the quality of their cards instead
Upper-Deck is a garbage fire of a company. SOOOO many scummy and even illegal actions.
I thought this was going to be about the very obvious fake yugioh cards that were floating around all over the place (at least in Germany) they looked like Japanese cards from the card format I‘d guess
I bet it was the masters the very thing konami gave to upper deck
Damn ..
Its crazy how greedy and stupid people can be. The game was clearly insanely popular and profitable but instead of looking at the long term gains they risked it all and it cost them everything.
Too bad Konami doesn't properly reprint the popular cards at lower rarity outside of the OCG.
Umm...Upper Deck was still in charge when we had $200 cards in mono-deck formats (like DAD). And rarer cards are easier to pull, too (just that the chase cards are way more valuable). I'd rather have core set ultimate rares again, and multi-rarities, but the modern ratios are WAY better than they used to be.
We can all agree that Ghost rares are thrash.
I used to agree, but then I pulled a Ghost Rare Sphere-Mode, and I kinda fell in love!
- Adam
@@CardmarketYGO I really don't like that when you are playing it just looks like a blank white square on the table... But they do sell for a pretty penny
Lol i had the most obvous fake destiny hero dreammaster when i was a kid the text was not same it long and so tiny and brokenly powerful
You must be on something cause every pokemon movie i watch and show called them rice balls not donuts
Major League Baseball, not national baseball league lol
Still doesnt answer why havent they not REPRINTED AIR NEOS
Or does it? 🤔
It's a shame because in hindsight, I wish this never happened cuz uhhhhhh Konami sucks lol
4kids proven self capable” tell that to anime fans their the most clowned on componies in animd
who else used fakes as a kid with friends because im not buying expensive cards im 10 lmao
n i thought always china made fake every popular toys
no way we were so CLOSE to being FREE, the curse will last forever
Just play goat format bro
@@MrRiseagainst1000 its just a joke, like, we will never stop playing
@@MrRiseagainst1000 Everyone switching from Goat to Edison as the cycle of nostalgia reaches 5D's.
I'd be interested in the story of how 4kids got kicked off as well, but I understand that might be outside y'all's wheelhouse.
4kids is far from capable
Boohoo ill play the scum at konami a song on the tiniest violin
Please do not call sports cards a tcg as there is no game there
What a shame that this video wasn’t named “Synchro summoning almost killed yugioh” given that this took place in the 5D’s era
Yugioh attendant in 2018 wcs qualifiers at their peak in Japan.
That would have been incredibly stupid and misleading as a title.
I’ll take that as a compliment.
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I love a tale of sordid, soulless businesses knifing each other over cardboard rectangles. The stakes, absolutely nothing. The prize, millions of dollars and the state backed right to fleece us dorks out of our hard earned money for more cardboard rectangles. This is why if I want a specific card for a deck, I'll hit control p and use my money on things like, my brakes on the car I need to work, or my kids, or literally anything besides a 30 dollar card for a children's game. The seriousness we place on stupid games is mind bogglingly wasteful.
Also, I love the Dutch backing this ridiculous court intrigue, very in character for the swamp germans that invented stock corporations to begin with. Classic Dutch. Gotta love that prank of a nation, with their goofy language perfectly in between german and english.
bro your eyes are so wet
We did lost Yugioh already... the game is still there but in fact, absolutely unplayable. Its only about who has his Auto-Win card on its starting hand and thats it. I liked to play the game, also in a competitive way but that only showed me, that Yugioh is broken and not even fun when youre winning. Good thing that the PS5 is available everywhere by now
So let's we forgot backup soldier exodia doesn't exist in early 20s
Play Edison format my guy!! It’s also very cheap!
Skill issue
Cope harder scrub
@@OyVeey He did say he was winning... 🤔