Crane M2S vs Crane M3 - What's the Difference?
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- In this video I cover the key differences between the Zhiyun Crane M2S and the Zhiyun Crane M3. I hope this gives you the information you need to make the best possible buying decision.
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Love your detailed comparison as always, you did helped me deciding which one to buy haha. They are all perfect gimbals for APSC cameras, but M2S definitely sold me on its price and user friendly button design, for beginners, M2S is more than enough.
100% agree, good choice.
My Crane M2 Just Arrived Yesterday And I Cant Wait To Unbox IT. Love Your Videos Mark Always Great Info When Watching Your Videos.
Thank you so much!
Great Review Mark - you made my decision easy! I've used the RSC2 and its just heavy after a few hours at events (I will still keep for more demanding projects). I bought the M2S and was able to successfully balance a Sony aSiii with 28-70 lens and 17-28 and it worked just fine in my filming tests and held. BUT I was pushing it to it's limits I feel and want a little more wiggle room. I'll be sending that back and getting the M3 for the better ergonomics, handle, temp control on light, better motors for my payload and picking up the quick release plate for easy battery swapping - just about the perfect lightweight event gimbal for my standard filming shots. I'm pumped to try the time lapse. Cheers.
Really good to hear! Thanks for sharing.
Mark - saw your recent video regarding your health and just wanted to wish you all the very best. Your vids have been excellent and concise.
With regards to these two gimbals I wish to use one of them with my canon m50, go pro 10 and iPhone 11 Pro so can you advise which would be best?
As someone who doesn't have particularly large hands, I can't quite hold the handle when I use the stabilizer. Thankfully, this gimbal is exactly what I was looking for my vlog! Thx your review and looking forward to more of your works in the future😉
Great to hear!
WOO-HOO! I have been looking forward to this video since the last one dropped :)
Great to hear.
Thank you so much for these wonderful videos!
You are most welcome.
Hi Thank you for your another really well done video. Do you think that M2S can work with the Sony A7Cr and a Sony 20-70 zoom? it is a 1100 grams set.
Great comparison! For a constant traveller like me, the more compact CRANE M2S gets and it is a lot cheaper.
Yes, it's a great gimbal! You will love it.
Thanks! I always enjoy your videos!
Any chance of a video comparing the M2 to the M2S? It's also a $100 difference 🙂 Not sure what to get for my M6 II
Unfortunately not, the M2 is being discontinued, so I don't have access to one. The ones for sale now should be gone very shortly.
Nice comparison, Mark. I believe both M3 and M2S could do a great job and deliver super smooth footage. In my point of view, the fundamental difference is that color design and accessory support. For beginners, M2S is already powerful enough to do most of the gimbal movements and its fill light is brilliant as well.
Yes, the M2S is more than enough.
@@markwiemels Do you think I will have a problem Canon m50 ii with Sigma 16 mm lens With any of these?
@@Cube69619 the M3 can do it, barely, the M2S can’t.
Very..Very...Good video on the differences. Clearly & Well explained. I have a Canon EOS T7i so I hope it is compatible with either one. I am in the market for one so this video came in handy.
Thanks for the kind words.
For the extra features and ergonomics of the controls on the handle, I would prefer the M3. And it will work with my Nikon Z5 for balance as this model is on its list of compatible cameras. The M3 listing on Amazon, noting Nikon cameras, say to use the DX Z 16-50mm for 4K which covers about the same crop area of camera for 4K on the Z5 at about 1:1 readout, and the Z 24-50mm FX for full HD or the Z 28mm f2.8. Thanks for a great review!
Great to hear!
Excellent review!
Thanks Mark. How about with the combo Sony ZV-E10 and lens sigma 18-50mm f2.8, Does crane M2S handle? Tks
great video ❤
Thanks for the comparison video. Zhiyun got in touch with me about the Bluetooth Module for the M3. They gave me a link to purchase it which I did over Amazon for £25 GBP. It's coming from China so should be getting it by the end of the month.
Great information. Does the module only work if you have the expansion base? I have the base, and it has a place to go plug in the module, I don’t see an obvious way to do it without the base.
@@markwiemels Yes, you need the expansion base too. Zhiyun were very kind and are going to send me the base for free (Worth £89) along with a Universal Quick Release Plate (EX1D11)
The Bluetooth Module plugins into my USB C port (Canon M6 MKII). There is also a MicroUSB version too
@@ShafiqKhan Can you share the amazon link, please? I want to check it out.
thanks for this comparison, was looking for a more travel friendly gimbal that is versatile enough to mount a phone, action camera right through to a light mirrorless setup. I think ill go for the M2S (since I already have the weebill S for heavier mirrorless payloads that I use for work)
Nice video though i would have wanted to see what cameras & lenes could go on the M2s. The scorp mini awesome gimbal but can't manage the weight of the Canon RP as much. Point is knowing what camera could go unto these things would be a big help when buying.
I have iPhone 13pro, 2 Sony crop bodies, Sigma f1.4 prime trio, and the a7iv with f2.8 zooms. I’m thinking for basic gimbal work the M2S might suit best. I don’t think either would really manage bigger zoom lenses. People seem to say the lighter gimbal makes the whole package more tolerable to carry, especially if you’re just mounting a phone. And if you’re adding an extension pole, the lightest setup is probably most important.
Yes, you will be happy with it.
Great video Mark 👏 I have the FX6 and the crane 3s but for my ZV1 or the A6500 I think the m3 would be the best combo for me 👍🏻😉 best cinematic greetings from germany
Yes, the 3S would be overkill for a ZV1!
@@markwiemels absolutely 😂
@MarkWiemels , Can you expand a bit more more on the cable compatibility part? I have the Sony ZV E10. To confirm, the crane M3 can not control this camera? Can the m2s handle the ZVe10 with the Sigma 18- 50 m/ 2.8? Thanks so much!
I have Sony AX 53 and beginner with gimbals, first time I am going to buy one. What do you think Mark, which will be better for me? MS2 or MS 3? Thanks very much!
Nice video, really helpful! What would you recommend if the M3 was only $50 more than the M2s? Using canon m6 mkii with sigma lenses.
Personally I would. I know the M6 Mark II gets full range of motion, even with the Sigma 16mm, I have yet to test the M2S with that setup. The M2S allows you to start and stop video with the cable, which the M2S does not, but thats not a big deal to me.
Nice review! But is it programmable via app? For set movements for timelapses, for example
The M3 should be, not sure about the M2S.
Very comprehensive video on the M2S and M3, Mark. Thank you. Just curious, how do you balance the M2S with Gopro 11 (with media mod) and Ulanzi GP4 magnetic quick release. I can't balance those combo. However, I can balance the combo without the media mod. Can you please share your technique?
I dont have that setup, but make sure you are adjusting the "up and down" adjustment. There are 4 points of adjustment, make sure you are doing them all, some people miss the up and down one, I have a video about balancing the m2s.
I think for my M50 the M2S is going to be the way to go for me, so I went ahead an made my purchase yesterday through your link.
Hey thanks! It honestly works soo well. I have no complaints about that setup, I think you will be very happy.
Great analysis! I had a M2S briefly, and I could not balance my Fuji X-T200 with a wide angle X10-24mm lens. Do you think the M3 would balance a longer/heavier lens like the 10-24mm? Wonder if Best Buy has display models where you can see if it would balance prior to buying? Thanks again!
The M3 is much more powerful, so possibly.
Thanks for another great video. Have you tried the M3's touch screen's visibility in bright sunlight, i.e. skiing/snowboarding, mountaineering (or the beach), etc.?
Is it easy to see, and work with, while having goggles or sunglasses on? Thank you.
I have not, but I have not noticed any issues in my use so far.
Hi Mark, I am thinking of getting the crane M2S for my Canon M50 II. Will it be OK with the smallrig cage. Thanks!😊
Very well described! Also, question - I own a Sony a6400 and use it with the Sigma 16mm f1.4 lens. Would you possibly have any idea if the M2S would support this lens? It’s the best option for my budget currently, but I’m worried about the balance.
I suspect it won't, but don't have the camera to test it. The M3 would be more likely to work.
For someone starting to look into gimbals, it would be nice if you cut to e.g. a turntable shot of both… so we can see the differences in the hardware
Really helpful review, I am considering the M3 and M2S, which one is better, I think they have almost same function, but M3 more beautiful and can use a microphone, but M2S really more cheaper, so maybe I will save my money to choose the new M2S.
Based on your comment, I would go the M2S.
Thanks, I bought the M3 and I'm pimp walking around like a boss right now.
haha.. great!
Thanks for the comparison. I believe they both lock on all axis when balancing, but besides is the time to balance on both of these t=about the same amount of time?
Yes, I'm not finding any real difference there.
Nice video. I got a ZVe10 and I seach for a nice gimbal now. Both options, M3 and M2S look nice but I wonder if zoom can destabilize the gimbal. I have the kit lens 16-50. Not a big zoom. Will it work?
Yes, it should be fine.
Mark, Thanks for taking the time to put together this informative video! Do you know if the Crane M3 can be used with the Canon M50 along with a SmallRig cage attached? I had contacted the company and waiting for a reply.
Yes is can, I have a video about this.
@@markwiemels Many thanks for the information!
Hi Mark, fantastic review...I was all set on the M3 but now not sure. Which would be most compatible and be able to balance with a Fujifilm X-S10 using a 16-80 lens? Really appreciate your thoughts. I am amazed at how responsive you are to your commenters!
There is a compatibility list on the Zhiyun website, and I doubt either gimbal will be rated by them to handle that setup. You might be able to get it to work with the M3, there is no way the M2S would do it. That setup is really best on the Weebill S.
@@markwiemels Thank you Mark. Weebil S incoming. Appreciate the knowledge.
Hey Mark, Can you tell me what camera and lens you use for this video?:-)
This was shot on the Fujfilm X-T-3 and X-T4, with the 16mm f1.4 and 23mm f2.
I think M2S suits a larger scale of users as many people are casual vloggers or beginners (like me lol) So a lighter gimbal and user-friendly design is great for me.
Yes, for sure.
Looking at both of these for use with Cannon eos r6 with 16MM and dji wireless mic. Which would you prefer leaning to the M3
I would go the M3.
Besides the $100 cheaper price, the M2S smaller compact size and wider compatibility with more cameras makes it a clear winner! I have both the Sony ZV1 & Panasonic GH5 so having the ability to use both is (for now) is a big win!
Love your videos Mark! Right now both models are on sale on Amazon. M3: $295 and M2s: $240. I'm really torn. I have the Sony a6400 and I'm just starting to get into videography. Which one would you recommend?
100% M3, no question, it's a much more premium gimbal for that small price difference. Check my affiliate link before you buy, it might be the best price.
I‘m sold on the M2S, it just fulfilled everything I possibly need for everyday Vlogging.
Absolutely! You will be very happy.
Thank you sir!
You are most welcome.
If anyone is looking for a more budget-friendly Gimbal. Check out the Crane M2S. Mark has some great videos showcasing the capabilities of this gimbal and this gimbal's brother Crane M3. I have purchased one myself but I've only used it for beginners so far. You can get them used for around 269$, the M3 cost more 100USD maybe, think its depends on your budget, for the M2S, super loving
For sure, thanks for the insight.
My M3 isn't charging my Sony ZV 1. I have the correct cable connecting the camera to the M3. I can start and stop recording using the M3, but for some reason, the M3 is not charging the camera. Must be a settings issue? I've tried a couple of different settings, but no luck yet. Suggestions? We are going to Europe soon and I'd like the gimbal charging the camera so I don't have to change batteries every half hour.
Can we connect this gimbal with zhiyun ZY app for object tracking? like attaching mobile on hotshoe of camera
I do not believe so, I have not seen that option in the app (when connected to either gimbal)
The part about the ergonomic design is interesting. Usually, we don't notice these design details until we take them out and use them for a while. But those details really matter if you plan to use the gimbal very often.
For sure.
Considering the M3 and the M2, which one would you recommend for using the Sony A7C with the Sony 20mm f/1.8 G lens?
Both will do the job. It’s just a matter of what features you want, and budget, that was really the purpose of this video. If your just doing vlogging and travel vids, you can go the M2S and I don’t think you will be missing out.
Curious how you'd compare the M2S vs the Weebill S? I know the Weebill 2 is much more improved over the Weebill S... But at a price point, M2S and Weebill S are fairly comparable and interested to hear how you'd compare the two and which you'd consider a "better bang for the buck"?
Totally different gimbals really. You can’t beat the value of the Weebill S right now, but it’s a much bigger gimbal, I would only go with the Weebill S if you need the extra capacity. If you do, it’s a fabulous gimbal.
@@markwiemels We're actually shooting on a Canon M50, so I think we'll be good with the M2S then, until we decide to upgrade our gear. Thanks for the response!
Hi Mark, great rundown of the two gimbals. I myself have a M50 and was watching to see what would suit my needs better. As someone who has never owned a gimbal, I'm leaning towards the M2S as a beginner. But the one thing that I need advice on is the weighting of the camera and the gimbal's performance. I plan on using Canon's original EF-M 11-22mm lens (and potentially some more weighty lenses in the future) and was wondering whether the M2S would perform well still. As the lens is not exactly flat, nor is it short, I wanted to know whether with the M2S's small tripod legs would be able to balance the M50 with a longer lens attached (by longer I mean not short like a pancake lens). I saw a review on amazon saying their Sony A7III with a longer lens could not be balanced properly unless tilted at a specific angle on the M2S and he was worried the weight of the camera + lens would cause strain to the M2S motors. May I know your thoughts? Thanks
The M2S will meet your needs fine. I would go with it.
@@markwiemels Okay thanks, and would you also say much larger and heavier lenses such as SIGMA's 16mm be okay for this gimbal?
@@Callomir neither are rated to work with the sigma 16mm. The Sigma 16mm does work, without full range of motion, on the M3, I have done a video about it. I have not tested the 16mm on the M2S, will try to do it and publish a quick short video.
@@Callomir just tried to balance the 16mm on the M2S, I couldn’t get it to balance. There isn’t enough space, the M3 is just that little bit bigger to make it “sort of” work. Keep in mind the M3 is still not rated by Zhiyun to handle the 16mm. The Weebill S is, it is an excellent gimbal, but it’s bigger and a bit more expensive.
@@markwiemels Thank you for testing that out for me. I'm in no rush to get both the gimbal and lens atm as it is very pricey. But I just thought for future sake, especially since the SIGMA 16mm does not have IS, a gimbal would be more effective at keeping shots or footage steady. Thanks once again, I will check out the Weebill S.
I have the Sony ZV E10 and plan to shoot with the Sigma 16mm lens mostly. Is the M2S strong enough to work with that setup? Or should I go M3? And why is the ZV E10 compatible with the M2S record button but not the M3 record button?
I'm not sure, I think the M2S will, but he the M3 should for sure.
Not sure whats the new firmware update of the M3 but does it support the ZV-E10 already for start/stop video with cable?
No, still can't control Sony ZV-E10 via control cable.
Hello Mark. I was looking to buy M2 which is still available, but then I came across M2S. I am going to use it with Sony A5100. It is mentioned as compatible for M2 and not listed for M2S. Do you think it is still likely to work with M2S? Thank you
I think it is likely, but you could contact Zhiyun and confirm. They seems to be good at getting back to people.
I have bought the m2s last month and returned it. It couldnt handle the M50, nog with the 11 to 22mm lens or the pancake lens. It works in controlled settings but if your movement is too quick it shuts down. Also the vortex mode and potrait mode both wouldnt work, it cant handle the weight.
I have this gimbal the benefit of the doubt because the product page says it should handle it. It does handle it but only for the straightforward stuff, vlogging with kids (faster movements) is impossible
They are doing a lot of good stuff over there.
Yes, they just won some German design awards for the M3 and X5 gimbals.
Yes M2S have its advantage compared with M3 such as payload and battary, I deem it good products especially for beginner
Yes, it's great.
Great video! You said battery life is 8 and 10 hours
Since the zv1 has miserable battery, What do you think how many times could it charge the zv1?
I would be guessing, but a few times for sure.
Great detailed comparison! I was so certain to get the M3 until the M2S came out. My biggest dilemma is that I'm using a Fuji XT3 and probably pair it with the 16mm F1.4 or 18-55mm kit lens most of the time and I have no idea if the M2S is able to balance it and whether it will hit the EVF if I tilt the gimbal up. Are you able to advice?
I the M3 can handle the 18-55, neither are listed as compatible with the 16mm f1.4, but I have not tested it. The Weebill S is another option that is still somewhat small but would handle most of the Fuji Lenses.
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m1 ok?
I had high Hope's for the M3. It seemed to fix all of the issues experienced with the M2. Supposedly designed with upgraded motors for more mirrorless cameras and various lens combos. I bought one and found the M3 to be ultra sensitive and beep and error out with Canon M50 and kit lens. Even worse with Sigma 16mm. Despite many attempts to balance it, having watched loads of videos and balanced properly, it still was very prone to error out, motor vibrate and refuse to calibrate. Perhaps just a bad unit but in the end I sent it back. I will buy again later down the road when issues have been ironed out, but the M3 was not the solution I thought it was..not at this stage anyways
That’s so disappointing to hear. My production copy is very stable, even with the sigma 16mm, but my preproduction beta copy had similar issues to yours. Just out of curiosity, did you try updating the firmware?
@@markwiemels Hey Mark. Yes I did that too but it made no difference. I balanced the M50, Sigma 16mm, Rode wireless go and VND filter on the M2 with no issues. Even made a video about it. I think its just a duff unit. Loved everything about it and even got the M50 quick release plate. Thought it was the cure for battery changes without rebalance and with lights and touch screen was a real step forward. I've seen your video and others sporting the M50 and Sigma 16mm combo and thought great that the one. Sadly there are still issues to iron out Mark. I even set the motors to high torque but every time you switch off and then recalibrate it resets to medium and errors out.🤨
@@RaySuesTravelChannel yes, that’s not great, what a bummer.
@@markwiemels Mark you said you had those issues on the pre production model. Did you manage to iron them out?
@@RaySuesTravelChannel no, but I did work out, with that unit, the vibration was caused by some play in the base that slides up and down, and also attaches to the base plate that goes on the camera. Even when I made it as tight as I could, there was some play in there that cause vibration and a buzz, and eventual shut down. Took me a while to work out, as I was sure it was cranked down hard, but eventually realised I could still wiggle it. I think I’m also running my motors at minimum power, on my production unit now.
M2S could work with GH4 and kit lens 14-42 mm? That is what I use mostly for now.
The GH4 isn't on the compatibility list of the Crane M2S, you may have a look: zhiyun-website-shenzhen.oss-cn-shenzhen.aliyuncs.com/instruction/20220825/1661414049713-KnXfPH8N.pdf
hey, does face tracking work with 4k after connecting the gimbal?
Face tracking in the camera works, but the gimbal doesn’t follow you.
Can the m3 balance a Sony A6400 with a Sigma 16mm F 1.4 lens? I jumped the gun and went with the M2S, but i think the lens is too heavy and can't get it to balance properly
I’m not sure, I know it can balance the Canon M6 II and the Sigma 16mm, those cameras have a similar form, but I don’t have the Sony to test it.
did I skip, but can you make a device balance presets? lets say, for mirrorles, cellphone, and go pro? So that you just click them in.
No, there is no function like that.
I looked at the M2S camera compatibility list because I want put a Nikon Z5 on it with the new 28mm F2.8 Z lens - I can see its fully compatible but no idea what the weight limit or lens compatibility is.
The reason they are using the lists now, is that the motors are so strong that the weight is not the limiting factor. The limiting factor is the effective size of the area that the lens and body can fit in, and still have full range of motion. This will also change based on how the camera and lens balance. So it’s a bit more complicated than just a simple weight limit. So the list, or testing it yourself, is the only way to know.
@@markwiemels thanks - I see - I got it I kind of guessed the pancake or shorter length lenses are probably going to work with it. Thanks for the reply
Will either of these gimbals work with the Canon 5d MarkIV?
No, the Weebill S is probably the smallest gimbal that would handle that camera, depending on the lens choice. The Weebill 2 is bigger yet, but still small in professional gimbal terms, and is very good, but more expensive.
Good sir, you think M2s can handle a6500+sigma16mm? and Whats the max payload?. Thanks.
No, I don't think so, but I don't have this setup to test.
Where can I get the wireless camera control module for the M3 gimble...?? No one seems to talk about it..
I have not been able to find it either. Some of my views have bought off Amazon in their country.
Focusing on smartphone usage, how do these compare to the company's smooth product line?
The X5 is also great for the price, but it is inferior in build, but still performs very well.
Hello, El zhiyun crane M2s es compatible con la canon R50?
@@HellenLee-yz2oj gracias
I don't even know, but is there any update to make motion timelapse on the m2s? Someone said it's possible while using the App...
Not that I am aware of.
Wii the A 6000 work with the cable controls? Thanks
yes.
@@markwiemels Thank you!
Considering they have the same payload and losing just the mic ( which lets be honest , some people wont even touch ) , the less weight is just perfect and probably killed m3's market
Because once youre spending that much , you're entering full size gimbal category with fullsize payload ( 5-7 lb ) instead of m3's payloaf ( 2,8-3 lb )
Its a compact gimbal with a fullsized price , atleast m2s is smaller , lighter , cheaper and carries the same payload
Note : the motors are almost the exact same , but it could be insignificantly stronger on the m3 by 5-10%
I’m going to try to do a video comparing these two to the Weebill S as well, it’s only a little more than the M3 and can take a much bigger setup, and it’s still pretty compact.
@@markwiemels i see , i had the weebill lab for some time , the S i assume would be a small upgrade and the deletion of the ( kinda useless ) image transmission .
Mark, WEIRD QUESTION: When I follow your link to the M3 on Amazon its listed for $367 BUT if I scroll down there's a couple listed for $295. Is there a difference?
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As long as they are both the "Standard" kit, then they will be the same. There is also a Combo kit, which includes the phone holder, upgraded tripod foot, and bag, and it's more. When I check the link I provided the listing has a tick box for a $74 discount, which makes the price the same, they may have just added that based on the other pricing.
@@markwiemels I appreciate the response! Thank you buddy.
Looks like neither of these will work with my LUMIX G9. Bummer! Do you have another gimbal option you recommend for the LUMIX?
I assume you are just talking about the stop/start video function? if so, I wouldn't be too worried about that, I hardly use that function myself. It's just a matter of pushing the button on the camera, rather than one on the gimbal. Until very recently no gimbals even had this function, including the ones uses to make Hollywood movies, so it's not a big deal. The other Gimbal to check out would be the Weebill S, not sure if that will function with the G9, but it's another good gimbal.
Does the white parts in these gimbals get dirty overtime?
It’s a good question, so far I have been able to clean it back to looking like new, but the surface is textured, so I’m not sure if there could be an issue long term or not. So far mine is ok.
I own m50, what should I buy m2s or ronin sc? If any other plz suggest 🙏
Very diffrent gimbals, SC for bigger lenses, m2s for small lenses like the kit lens, 22 and 32mm canon lenses, etc.
Awesome review! I have a Panasonic G85 and purchased the Weebill S, only to find out they are not compatible and the camera cannot be controlled from the gimbal. Now, I am shopping for another gimbal. Do you know if the M2S will work with the Panasonic G85, especially to start and stop video recording from the gimbal?
Check Zhyiun's Website, they have a list, it's a PDF file with all the details.
Yes the M2S will, says so on compatibility list - but not the M3.
@@DungarooTV Thanks for the response.
Hi ,
Can use Crane M2S gimbal for my Sony a6400 with sigma 16 mm lens ?
I'm not sure, I don't have that camera to test it.
Which one you will suggest for zve10 ?
Both work well. With the M3 you get better build quality and a more robust gimbal, if budget is a concern, go for the M2s, but the M3 is worth the extra money if its within your budget.
@@markwiemels thanks lot
hi. can you connect the M3 to a7S3 to have a bluetooth record control?
I think it can operate via cable, if you want blue tooth you have to buy the bluetooth ad one.
Does any of them have a focus motor??
no
Does one lose any functionality of either of these devices (M3 in particular) when the camera system being used is a smartphone?
I don't really know, but they use diffrent apps. So you should research this, it might be meaningful.
Its not , its the opposite actually
It’s not clear what you mean here. Can you provide more detail.
@@markwiemels if im not mistaken , the zhiyun app supports tracking i think , and most of the features are in the gimbal itself , and the camera system's integration is mostly the control cable to the gimbal
@@archfxt3619 I think it’s a bit more complicated than that. There are two different apps, one for the phone gimbals and one for the camera gimbals, and not all features work on all gimbals. I wish it was a little more straightforward.
I just wish the M2S was a similar price to the M2. I would like more power in the motors but you can get an M2 for like $120 right now
When the M2 was released it was $269 as well. They have discontinued the M2 now, so the ones for sale now will be the last ones available (or so I’m told by Zhiyun)
BTW, the M2 is a lot of gimbal for $120. Just won’t handle the bigger cameras and lenses.
Does it support the GH5 or the G9?
I think it would, but you should check the Zhiyun website.
Will the m2s balance my xt4 with 16-55mm?
For sure you wouldn't have full range of motion, but it may balance. I would look at the Weebill S for that setup.
what is the weight limit? can I use the Crane M2S with the canon m6 mark ii and the sigma 16mm lens?
I will try and test this for an upcoming video. Zhiyun does not list the sigma 16 on their list of compatible camera lens combos.
@@markwiemels that would be great, I always struggle to find if these gimbals are compatible with the sigma 16 mm. Thanks :)
I had high Hope's for the M3. It seemed to fix all of the issues experienced with the M2. Supposedly designed with upgraded motors for more mirrorless cameras and various lens combos. I bought one and found the M3 to be ultra sensitive and beep and error out with Canon M50 and kit lens. Even worse with Sigma 16mm. Despite many attempts to balance it, having watched loads of videos and balanced properly, it still was very prone to error out, motor vibrate and refuse to calibrate. Perhaps just a bad unit but in the end I sent it back. I will buy again later down the road when issues have been ironed out, but the M3 was not the solution I thought it was..not at this stage anyways
I assume it will support the Nikon Z30, since it does support the Z50 and ZFC?
Yes, should be no problem.
Is someone using it with panasonic s5? Does it work?
My first consideration is the payload. That's because having a gimbal with more power than you'll need adds to better reliability. I always prefer some headroom between camera weight and maximum payload. With the M3, I have a lot more latitude.
My second consideration is audio. And that's because its good audio that distinguishes amateur from professional.
As for hand-held weight, I workout, so the weight of the slightly beefier M3 is insignificant to me.
Is it normal that the Crane M3 makes constant quiet motor noises?
Too bad there is still no EOS M50 mark II support for the crane M3…. Really weird that they dropped that…
Also as a former motion control operator (a programmable camera crane for film and tv) I’m wondering if the programmable multi point pan and tilt action is precise enough for VFX like doppelgänger shots etc.
I would not think it would be precise enough, but not sure.
MyRX100 works fantastic. It’s so light it is very easy to balance.
Crane m2s vs M3! What is better in terms of stability and endurance, as well as pictures without motor jitter? Camera Sony ZV-E10 Lens Sigma 30mm 1.4
M3 is better, M2S is smaller, lighter, cheaper and still good. M3 is the most premium small gimbal I have ever see, the build is much better than the M2S.
@@markwiemels Thx! DJI RSC2 vs M3?
I would take the M3 for the smaller size. The smaller the gimbal, the more you will take it around and use it.
ok, i already decided.. i will wait for M4 or M3S.. already 4 months..who knows maybe in 1-2 month
might be a while, and who knows what those gimbals will be like.
it’s kind of sad to see a stabiliser that caters for smartphone doesn’t allow motion timelapse and stuff 😔
Can the Crane M2S easily hold the Canon m50?
Yes