The lack of ARCA Swiss is making me go a bit crazy. 😂 Actually modified the plate to be able to install a Falcamn quick release on the M3/M2S and it works! Still waiting for Smallrig to release a an ARCA Swiss quick release for the M3/M2S like they did for the M2. Hope it happens!
I tried using the M3 with the A7iv and 35mm GM and it wobbles all the time. You can only do pans, no tilts at all, not even a little bit. May as well lock every axis but pan axis.
If you've never used a gimble but are familiar enough with shooting videos for instagram/tiktok/youtube you name it, don't get the Q4 or Q3. I've used different types of tripods for my social media stuff and was finally ready to upgrade to a gimble to get the camera moves I know I really wanted and found the Q4 is very limiting in its tilt and rotation maximums before it would "wobble and freakout". The Crane M2s and M3 aren't going to have that problem. If you've never filmed anything in your whole life the Q's will be fantastic for you to learn from. They're a great Christmas gift for your friend or family who just started vlogging. If you already know how to shoot things pay the extra for a better gimble right away.
Thanks for this - great review! I’m looking to take my TH-cam channel on the road, and to go as light as I can. Will the M2S will handle the A7C + new Sony 16-35mm PZ without any dramas?
Nice video Jason.Any recommendation which gimbal can work with my Sony Alpha 6400 with 16-70mm Carl Zeiss with Rode VideoMicro 803g?How many minutes are necessary to balance the camera on the 3M and 2MS gimbal?
Could have been the really perfect travel gimbal.. why they screwed up on the size , they could add like just 3-5 cm on the back and we would have been gucci. On sony AIV A7S3 you can remove the eyeviewfinder but still can't put a big lens, on panasonic you can't remove and you have to really use light and not long lens. Motors are powerfull enough to support way more load (if balance correctly ) but it's the arm going in the way that screw up the best travel gimbal. Im waiting for my counter weight adjust , i might gain some extra cms and put just bigger lense (like i use to on moza aicross 2.)
Hi, thank you for this video as I'm still thinking if I will buy Crane M3. You mentioned that this gimbal fits a sling bag, are you referring to Peak Design everyday sling? If yes, may I ask which size will M3 fits (6L or 10L)?
In paper M3 support 2200gramm. So isn't there a way it to support a1 with 70 200 Mk2 and senheser mk400 microphone and if possible 2x tele? Öt is still under the weight limit. But at least the 24 70 to km2 with ecm G1 mic. Is it possible?
When using a smartphone, do either of the gimbals have object tracking/active tracking? If they do have object tracking/active tracking how well does it work with each of them?
Have nayone know if m2s can handle sony a6400 with 18-105mm f/4 lens? cant find any place and cant afford buying and selling stuff randomly... and as i know, weight wise there shouldnt be problem, but every setup have different balancing... please help...
I have both the M2 S and M3 but I could not balance the Gopro 11 with media mod on the M3. I tried on different motor load from light to strong without any luck. The gimbal motor vibrates ridiculously hard then stop. Maybe I have a defective M3? I don't know but I have no problem balancing the Gopro 11 with media mod on the M2S.
Just got an a7c and am looking at tamron 17-28, 28-70 g2 such lenses and currently own a weebil s, but wouldn't mind getting a more compact gimple like the m3. Best I just keep the weebil s?
28-75 cannot be balanced with crane m3 and a7c. Too much front heavy. 17-28 can from reviewers, but this gimbal is limit to my opinion. And stabilization is not perfect and reviewers use warp or gyro post production to finalize the video. It is better to wait or go with weebill 3
Hi Jason I am thinking about getting the crane m2s as it is more compact. I would like to use it with the sony zv-e1 with the sony f4 16-35mm pz. Weight wise it should be able to handle it, do you think it can or should I consider the m3. I would really like to be as compact as possible
I had this equipment, but I changed it to a dji gimbal and the difference is for the benefit of dji. You show the sony a1 and xperia pro 1 on the gimbal. I have a request to show a community that subscribes to your channel like me how two sony flagships refuse to work together. I have subscribed to your channel for a long time and with all due respect, but your reviews are not reliable, they are not honest.
Hi Jason, quick question, what setup do you use to attach your camera to the capture clip and at the same time to your gimbal? I have an a7 iv with a crane m3 but i would love to use a PD capture clip with having to change the camera plate. I appreciate all the content you share 🙏
Thanks for this review. You just confirmed my choice of the Crane M3. Even though I'm using it for APS-C, it gives me a little bit more room for expansion to full frame. My question is: how did you setup the gimbal to control your camera? I have a Sony a6600, attached the included cable to the M3, but I couldn't figure out how to control the aperture, ISO, etc. Only the record start/stop button is working.
Jason, could summarize the app usage? last time i had zhiyun its totally unusable if its not iphone or samsung.. which might be the point of buying for some.. another thing to cover is the motor movement smoothness.. much appreciate it mate..
it seems that the Sigma 35mm 1.4 isn't on the compatibility list of the Crane M3: zhiyun-website-shenzhen.oss-cn-shenzhen.aliyuncs.com/instruction/20220323/1648025326345-tcTGcGHJ.pdf
Jason, thanks for this video. I’m thinking about ditching my Ronin SC. Have you flown the M3 with the shorter Batis lenses? (18, 25, 40) - I wonder if they’ll be light and short enough to pair with the a7iv.
Word of warning....I tried the M3 with an A7Siii and very light Zeiss 18mm F2.8. The M3 can not really handle this weight. It will balance, but movements, such as panning, will introduce vibrations that ruin your footage. I sent it back two days later!
My m2 wouldn’t turned on 3 months after I bought it. I think battery went bad because I didn’t see use for like a month. It wasn’t user replaceable and had to send it in…bad news is their US repair center “closed down” probably due to the whole covid thing back in 2020 and they said I had to send it to to their Chinese repair centers. Seemed like a major pain so never did it. Don’t think I want to deal with this company again.(Yes I am a little bitter lol)
The α6600 is on the compatibility of the Crane M3 but the Sigma 16mm F1.4 isn't on it, here's the compatibility list of the Crane M3, you an have a look: zhiyun-website-shenzhen.oss-cn-shenzhen.aliyuncs.com/instruction/20220323/1648025326345-tcTGcGHJ.pdf
You won’t find any future gimbal that have replaceable battery anymore. I think there is only the weebill S still sold for 299$ CDN at the black friday. But the locks are terrible and break (technically move. Only two are self repairable to my knowledge. The pan axis does not have the panel to access the locks and fix it). So it is like throwing your money. It is better to go with the weebill 3 more professional maybe. This is probably what i will take personally. Best Compromise between payload and weight and quality. Until they do a crane m4 with embedded bluetooth, more capable, universal plate, light and mic expansion, maybe in 2024.
just bought this for a week and use it for walking around and KINDA DISSAPOINTED with the results. idk why but the results are a lil "bumpy" i dont know why. all the axis are unlocked and the gimbal are securely lock. the results here : th-cam.com/video/Zw2TMDTrNQE/w-d-xo.html
The best travel gimbal is no gimbal at all. Few travel youtubers use gimbal because it's just time consuming to use. They rather let camera shake shown in the final footage than use a gimbal or stabilize it in post. Use a gimbal only if you are shooting cinematic footage. It's just cumbersome to use when you want to film a story.
Not really. Surely if ya gonna take a selfie stick or tripod, and then stabilise, you may as well use a gimbal. It gives you something to hold, has a tripod, and you don't have to stabilise!
For me, as an a6400 user, the weight is the key factor. I would go with M2S.
The lack of ARCA Swiss is making me go a bit crazy. 😂 Actually modified the plate to be able to install a Falcamn quick release on the M3/M2S and it works! Still waiting for Smallrig to release a an ARCA Swiss quick release for the M3/M2S like they did for the M2. Hope it happens!
Yes! I’m waiting for that too.
do you mind sharing how you've put the quick release? :)
Brilliant review. Thanks Jason
I tried using the M3 with the A7iv and 35mm GM and it wobbles all the time. You can only do pans, no tilts at all, not even a little bit. May as well lock every axis but pan axis.
That setup isn’t listed as compatible on the crane website
@@thebeachoflife thanks for that. I know. It accepts lenses that are 0.2 lbs lighter however, so I figured it was worth a shot.
Currently have the older m2 with a6500 - would you say its worth the upgrade? Or should i just stick with m2? It seems to struggle w sigma 18-50mm on
thanks I JUST BOUGHT M2S for SOny ZV-e10. your review helped me!
So, how is it?
Hey Jason
What do you recommend for a6400 and Tamron 28-75mm ?
Thank you for awesome content !
If you've never used a gimble but are familiar enough with shooting videos for instagram/tiktok/youtube you name it, don't get the Q4 or Q3. I've used different types of tripods for my social media stuff and was finally ready to upgrade to a gimble to get the camera moves I know I really wanted and found the Q4 is very limiting in its tilt and rotation maximums before it would "wobble and freakout". The Crane M2s and M3 aren't going to have that problem.
If you've never filmed anything in your whole life the Q's will be fantastic for you to learn from. They're a great Christmas gift for your friend or family who just started vlogging. If you already know how to shoot things pay the extra for a better gimble right away.
Thanks for this - great review! I’m looking to take my TH-cam channel on the road, and to go as light as I can. Will the M2S will handle the A7C + new Sony 16-35mm PZ without any dramas?
I think it’s still better to go m3 for a setup like that
@@JasonVong Thanks
Which Mikrophone you would recomand in a combination of the Crane M2S with a A7C?
Did anyone have a solution about that "new" m3s plate? For using it on monopods, tripods with popular heads like 501pl etc?
Is the m2s ok for Sony 6100 with tamron 17-70 2.8?
I've been enjoying shooting with a7c and M3. It is sad that M3 cant control a7c with the cable. they match perfectly tho....
Have you find any gimbal that can connect to the Sony A7C so I can make for example a timelapse with movement? Many thanks!
Hi Jason!
Sony A7C + Sigma 24-70mm f2.8
M3 or M2S?
Hi Jason😮😮😮, have you had any experience with the Hohem MT-2? Thx!!!😊😊😊😊
Nice video Jason.Any recommendation which gimbal can work with my Sony Alpha 6400 with 16-70mm Carl Zeiss with Rode VideoMicro 803g?How many minutes are necessary to balance the camera on the 3M and 2MS gimbal?
Could have been the really perfect travel gimbal.. why they screwed up on the size , they could add like just 3-5 cm on the back and we would have been gucci.
On sony AIV A7S3 you can remove the eyeviewfinder but still can't put a big lens, on panasonic you can't remove and you have to really use light and not long lens.
Motors are powerfull enough to support way more load (if balance correctly ) but it's the arm going in the way that screw up the best travel gimbal.
Im waiting for my counter weight adjust , i might gain some extra cms and put just bigger lense (like i use to on moza aicross 2.)
Ulanzi made a F38 adapter to use their quickrelease system, have you tried it yet?
tremendous video Jason Vong. I smashed that thumbs up on your video. Always keep up the amazing work.
Hi, thank you for this video as I'm still thinking if I will buy Crane M3. You mentioned that this gimbal fits a sling bag, are you referring to Peak Design everyday sling? If yes, may I ask which size will M3 fits (6L or 10L)?
In paper M3 support 2200gramm. So isn't there a way it to support a1 with 70 200 Mk2 and senheser mk400 microphone and if possible 2x tele? Öt is still under the weight limit. But at least the 24 70 to km2 with ecm G1 mic. Is it possible?
Can the M2s support the a6000 + sigma 16mm?
nope
Which camera brand have the best colors vibrant! Best skin tone on your skin when taking pictures and videos???????🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖💀🙌
Crane m2s vs M3! What is better in terms of stability and endurance, as well as pictures without motor jitter? Camera Sony ZV-E10 Lens Sigma 30mm 1.4
When using a smartphone, do either of the gimbals have object tracking/active tracking? If they do have object tracking/active tracking how well does it work with each of them?
Have nayone know if m2s can handle sony a6400 with 18-105mm f/4 lens? cant find any place and cant afford buying and selling stuff randomly... and as i know, weight wise there shouldnt be problem, but every setup have different balancing... please help...
Could we use a small rig cage with m3? Just curious
I have both the M2 S and M3 but I could not balance the Gopro 11 with media mod on the M3. I tried on different motor load from light to strong without any luck. The gimbal motor vibrates ridiculously hard then stop. Maybe I have a defective M3? I don't know but I have no problem balancing the Gopro 11 with media mod on the M2S.
Jason, interesting to know your thought on DJI mic? Is it a far better option than the Rode alternative?
Really nice video Jason. Thank you, I was wondering which one to go with!
Cant go wrong with Jason Vong
Just got an a7c and am looking at tamron 17-28, 28-70 g2 such lenses and currently own a weebil s, but wouldn't mind getting a more compact gimple like the m3. Best I just keep the weebil s?
28-75 cannot be balanced with crane m3 and a7c. Too much front heavy. 17-28 can from reviewers, but this gimbal is limit to my opinion. And stabilization is not perfect and reviewers use warp or gyro post production to finalize the video. It is better to wait or go with weebill 3
Hello! Have you find a gimbal that connects with the Sony Alpha 7C to make timelapses with movement? Many thanks in advance!
Hi Jason I am thinking about getting the crane m2s as it is more compact. I would like to use it with the sony zv-e1 with the sony f4 16-35mm pz. Weight wise it should be able to handle it, do you think it can or should I consider the m3. I would really like to be as compact as possible
Crane M3S will compatible.
Will the M2s handle an a6400 with the old 24-70?
Hmmmm… so for the Sony ZV E10? Crane M2?
Also, ZVE10 usb connection to the gimbal is not supported on the M3 but only on the M2S
Can crane m2s support sony zv e10 with sigma 16 mm f1.4?
I had this equipment, but I changed it to a dji gimbal and the difference is for the benefit of dji. You show the sony a1 and xperia pro 1 on the gimbal. I have a request to show a community that subscribes to your channel like me how two sony flagships refuse to work together. I have subscribed to your channel for a long time and with all due respect, but your reviews are not reliable, they are not honest.
Hi Jason, quick question, what setup do you use to attach your camera to the capture clip and at the same time to your gimbal? I have an a7 iv with a crane m3 but i would love to use a PD capture clip with having to change the camera plate. I appreciate all the content you share 🙏
Thanks for this review. You just confirmed my choice of the Crane M3. Even though I'm using it for APS-C, it gives me a little bit more room for expansion to full frame. My question is: how did you setup the gimbal to control your camera? I have a Sony a6600, attached the included cable to the M3, but I couldn't figure out how to control the aperture, ISO, etc. Only the record start/stop button is working.
cause thats all it does. sony fault. i got manfrotto MVG460 start stop rec, take a picture on A7c use imaging edge if you want more or try Monitor+
does anyone know a good and cheap stabilizer for a panasonic fz300 camera please?
Hey Jason, love your video. This is so informative. Just curious do you have Crane M2? will it able to balance up A6400 with Sigma 18-50 f2.8 lens?
I have this configuration and I can say that it works, but very near of the limits. I am looking forward to evolve to Crane M3
Can I use Nikon Z6ii camera on this gimble?
Great video! Thoughts about M2s with a6300 and Sigma 16mm (longer lens)? This would be my first gimbal too.
Jason, could summarize the app usage? last time i had zhiyun its totally unusable if its not iphone or samsung.. which might be the point of buying for some.. another thing to cover is the motor movement smoothness.. much appreciate it mate..
Can the Crane M3 or M2s holds the 24-70 2.8 Sigma?!
Would this setup work with a A7C with a Sigma 35mm 1.4? Or should I just get the Weebil 3?
it seems that the Sigma 35mm 1.4 isn't on the compatibility list of the Crane M3: zhiyun-website-shenzhen.oss-cn-shenzhen.aliyuncs.com/instruction/20220323/1648025326345-tcTGcGHJ.pdf
Crane 3 all the way is the best!!! I’m going for the Crane 3.
Best travel gimbal? Sony a7iv and catalyst browse.
Excellent information. Thks
Thanks Jason! This helped me a lot as I’m just getting into videography in retirement. Now if I can just find one while I’m in Vietnam.
can this handle a6600 and 16-55 G lens?
Jason, thanks for this video. I’m thinking about ditching my Ronin SC. Have you flown the M3 with the shorter Batis lenses? (18, 25, 40) - I wonder if they’ll be light and short enough to pair with the a7iv.
Word of warning....I tried the M3 with an A7Siii and very light Zeiss 18mm F2.8. The M3 can not really handle this weight. It will balance, but movements, such as panning, will introduce vibrations that ruin your footage. I sent it back two days later!
@@dval823 thanks. That’s what I was worried about.
Can the M3 handle an a7IV + 24mm -or- 35mm GM lens?
Nope
Would the crane m2s support a sony a6600 with a sigma 18-50 lense
It support Sony a6600 with Sigma 30mm f/1.4 DC DN lense, sigma 18-50 lense is not in the compatible list.
Jason! Now we’ll need a Dji rs3 mini vs crane m3 comparison!
My m2 wouldn’t turned on 3 months after I bought it. I think battery went bad because I didn’t see use for like a month. It wasn’t user replaceable and had to send it in…bad news is their US repair center “closed down” probably due to the whole covid thing back in 2020 and they said I had to send it to to their Chinese repair centers. Seemed like a major pain so never did it. Don’t think I want to deal with this company again.(Yes I am a little bitter lol)
Dji ftw
Can the Zhiyun Crane M3 hold α6600+Sigma 16mm F1.4+ RØDE VideoMicro easily?
Or it will be like the upper limit payload ?
The α6600 is on the compatibility of the Crane M3 but the Sigma 16mm F1.4 isn't on it, here's the compatibility list of the Crane M3, you an have a look: zhiyun-website-shenzhen.oss-cn-shenzhen.aliyuncs.com/instruction/20220323/1648025326345-tcTGcGHJ.pdf
Thank you for making this video, literally what I was searching for since yesterday and wished you had a comparison video ❤️
Thanks for the review. I would get the M-3 ... IF it had Interchangeable BATTERIES !
You won’t find any future gimbal that have replaceable battery anymore. I think there is only the weebill S still sold for 299$ CDN at the black friday. But the locks are terrible and break (technically move. Only two are self repairable to my knowledge. The pan axis does not have the panel to access the locks and fix it). So it is like throwing your money. It is better to go with the weebill 3 more professional maybe. This is probably what i will take personally. Best Compromise between payload and weight and quality. Until they do a crane m4 with embedded bluetooth, more capable, universal plate, light and mic expansion, maybe in 2024.
See you in Singapore!
Can I use 85mm 1.8 with A7III on M3 for full motion ?
Nope
I wish there would be a new gimbal that’s as light as m3 but can carry full frame with longer lens.
wow love it bro
wow so small gimbal make you so happy
Jason. how are things?! Yo, interesting ,ffarewell. 🤟
sad the m3 is not really compatible with the sony a7c
I felt you really like PRO-I 😆
crane m3's been working fantastic for me but not the best for crane shots 🤣
just bought this for a week and use it for walking around and KINDA DISSAPOINTED with the results. idk why but the results are a lil "bumpy" i dont know why. all the axis are unlocked and the gimbal are securely lock. the results here : th-cam.com/video/Zw2TMDTrNQE/w-d-xo.html
The best travel gimbal is no gimbal at all. Few travel youtubers use gimbal because it's just time consuming to use. They rather let camera shake shown in the final footage than use a gimbal or stabilize it in post. Use a gimbal only if you are shooting cinematic footage. It's just cumbersome to use when you want to film a story.
Not really. Surely if ya gonna take a selfie stick or tripod, and then stabilise, you may as well use a gimbal. It gives you something to hold, has a tripod, and you don't have to stabilise!
m2s is a bullshit