The soundstream just has a dust cap that covers the entire cone, if you look under you will see the top and bottom are different. The reason specs don't seem right is epsilon says whatever will sells a product real or not. One thing I've seen done is including the T yoke and top plate in the weight, when motor weight normally is only the ferrite. A real "200iz" motor is pretty large.
I always wanted to see a head to head between the classic black Gothic and the R3s. Good to know that the Soundstream subs weigh the most. Makes sense given that the R3s were always more expensive than the Gothics
I just bought 3 R3-10's.. I built a 4.5 cubic foot box with two 3"x5" flared ports I believe tuned to 32hz. Installing tomorrow then break in for a few days. Oh BTW, will be running these off of the recoil red 1800.5.. I think will be a good match
All good subs but i would take the R3 all day main reason would be looks. but to be fair im a huge fan of soundstream. that and im doing a soundstream build with hard to find stuff like xxx6500 and oldschool x2 15s.
Great work. IMO the Walmart Gothic for 80 bucks is the best buy here. All subs can take 800 watts and I bought 4 Walmart gothics myself because I didn't want to pay 120 or more for the other subs.
Thanks man appreciate it! Yeah bottom line is I wanted to know if there was a difference and as you saw there’s some physical differences but sound wise they all sound awesome! The Soundstreams were a little tighter and I could hear that a little bit when comparing them but other than that man they all rock for sure! 👍
You have some of the realistic reviews 👍 Love the name Gothic. Some soundstream r3 Gothics and I'm sold. I'll be running 4 regardless. Myself have also loved the tightness of the r3's. Kickdrum's matter 🤣
I agree between the Power Acoustik Gothics and Walmart Gothics not much difference beside the impedance and looks. Now the Soundstream R3 way different sounding sub Much slappier, cleaner and accurate ( nice tight crisp sub) But all are very good budget subs. Just depends on the sound you like.
Hey brother, after our conversations about what 10" subs I should run in .80 per chamber sealed behind the seat setup in my 03 Supercrew. You recommended the 10" R3 and I really love the way they look and what not. Is the R3 the best out of these 3? I would like to save a few bucks if ones less expensive but is as good. If not I'll just pay the $94 each for the sounstream
Well the Walmart subwoofer is out because they only come in 12 inch so yes you can choose between the Soundstream or the Gothic 10 inch they both sound great I prefer the Soundstream a little bit but the Gothic isn’t far behind and sounds great.
Being the same company owns both brands, it's no surprise that they use the same parts. They own ppi now too which is why ppi power class look like rebadged mofo.
@@HiFiVector I'm sure the infinity kappa is no comparison either huh?? I can't believe they recommend two and a half cubic feet of airspace net for each sub
The soundstream just has a dust cap that covers the entire cone, if you look under you will see the top and bottom are different. The reason specs don't seem right is epsilon says whatever will sells a product real or not. One thing I've seen done is including the T yoke and top plate in the weight, when motor weight normally is only the ferrite. A real "200iz" motor is pretty large.
I always wanted to see a head to head between the classic black Gothic and the R3s. Good to know that the Soundstream subs weigh the most. Makes sense given that the R3s were always more expensive than the Gothics
Yea I wanted to get to the bottom o fit myself I wandered about it for years.
Another sub thats very similar made by Epsilon is the Precision Power Phantom series.
Yes but those seem to be the same as the gothic so I did not bother adding that one to the test. It already was a lot of work :)
I just bought 3 R3-10's.. I built a 4.5 cubic foot box with two 3"x5" flared ports I believe tuned to 32hz. Installing tomorrow then break in for a few days. Oh BTW, will be running these off of the recoil red 1800.5.. I think will be a good match
All good subs but i would take the R3 all day main reason would be looks. but to be fair im a huge fan of soundstream. that and im doing a soundstream build with hard to find stuff like xxx6500 and oldschool x2 15s.
Nice! those old SS Amps were sick! I heard those old MULE subs were every good.
Great work. IMO the Walmart Gothic for 80 bucks is the best buy here. All subs can take 800 watts and I bought 4 Walmart gothics myself because I didn't want to pay 120 or more for the other subs.
Thanks man appreciate it! Yeah bottom line is I wanted to know if there was a difference and as you saw there’s some physical differences but sound wise they all sound awesome! The Soundstreams were a little tighter and I could hear that a little bit when comparing them but other than that man they all rock for sure! 👍
@@HiFiVector very good review. I'll keep warching
All made by the same company epsilon owns all of them
@@owenhill6590 yes I do know that. But the best buy to me is the Walmart Gothic!
@@johnnyditommaso6807 I agree son owns four on 2 razor2500
That “cone” on the R3 is a full dish dust cap. There’s a cone underneath.
I'm picking the Soundstream Reference, based soley on looks.
You have some of the realistic reviews 👍
Love the name Gothic. Some soundstream r3 Gothics and I'm sold. I'll be running 4 regardless.
Myself have also loved the tightness of the r3's. Kickdrum's matter 🤣
The Walmart Gothics are DVC 4Ω and the normal Gothics are DVC 2Ω. I don't believe there were many other differences
I agree between the Power Acoustik Gothics and Walmart Gothics not much difference beside the impedance and looks. Now the Soundstream R3 way different sounding sub Much slappier, cleaner and accurate ( nice tight crisp sub) But all are very good budget subs. Just depends on the sound you like.
Dang! You make me almost regret getting the Gothic, should've went with an R3, it's too late to wish for now, lol.
Hey brother, after our conversations about what 10" subs I should run in .80 per chamber sealed behind the seat setup in my 03 Supercrew. You recommended the 10" R3 and I really love the way they look and what not. Is the R3 the best out of these 3? I would like to save a few bucks if ones less expensive but is as good. If not I'll just pay the $94 each for the sounstream
Well the Walmart subwoofer is out because they only come in 12 inch so yes you can choose between the Soundstream or the Gothic 10 inch they both sound great I prefer the Soundstream a little bit but the Gothic isn’t far behind and sounds great.
The blue Gothic is dual 4 ohm. The black Gothic is dual 2 ohm.
Just subscribed I like everything bass related 👍
Being the same company owns both brands, it's no surprise that they use the same parts. They own ppi now too which is why ppi power class look like rebadged mofo.
Fair question kicker comp r or soundstream r3
I prefer the R3 zI compared the two last year side by side and R3 was cleaner and punchier. Both sound good but to me R3 took it.
Thank you sir
@@HiFiVector I'm sure the infinity kappa is no comparison either huh?? I can't believe they recommend two and a half cubic feet of airspace net for each sub
Not sure I haven’t tried the newer infinity kappas yet.
I gor two of the Walmart Gothic and it has two spiders.
U misconstruing it it's not 1250 watts on the Walmart brand the blue and black are 2,500 watts Maxx twenty-five hundred!!!
Oops missed that
THE BLACK GOTHIC IS GW3 NEWER VERSION THEM THE GW2 GOTHIC I JAF TWO OF THEM FOR YEARS
Do they all have the same voice coil?? PA is known for overrated products, safe bet 800watts rms
Not sure 100% if the coils are the EXACT same spec so who knows. But i will say I gave all these subs 1000 TRUE watts and they all took it just fine.
My soundstream r3 12 says 1200w rms
Power Acoustik overrating their car audio? No way! 😂 they make decent products, they just need to stop overrating all their products.
You are exactly right!
Gothic sounds better.