10 MAJOR PROBLEMS With Electric Cars You Must Know Before Buying One
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- 10 major problems with electric cars you must know before buying one. We explain the biggest problems with owning an electric car that you might not know about. Are electric cars worth it? Are electric cars better than gas cars? Are electric cars the future? Are electric cars more reliable? Are electric cars safe? Are electric cars sustainable or better for the environment? If you are buying a new electric car or electric SUV, make sure to watch this video.
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Congratulations you are the first person on TH-cam who acknowledges that most people cannot afford an EV. All the News Papers, Governments etc. Ignore this. Well done.👍👍✔✔
My 2023 Chevy Bolt cost $32,500, certainly affordable for most people who are in the market for a new car!
@@paulstough2995 Oh yea how many Mc Donald's workers could afford that. American workers living in cars how would they afford them.
@@thelastpilot4582 It is true people who are making low wages cant afford even an EV prices at $32,500. However, I dont believe people working in low wage jobs can afford ANY new car. Which is another whole problem, the fact that there are so many people working for such low wages!
as more and more EVs are made, there will become more and more used EVs and prices for used EVs will decline.
It seems to me that so many of the EV naysayers seem to believe that we have reached the max in technology in EVs, whereas I believe that we are still in the infancy of EV development. Look at how far the development if ICE vehicles has come in the well over 100 years of innovation and change.
@@paulstough2995 Not a lot of car for that sort of money though. There's no way I'd spend that on a small hatchback, especially here in the UK where we don't have anything like the sort of disposable income that you have in the US.
@@paulstough2995 Which means that every new EV produced today is going to be out of date by the time it hits the second hand market and people won't want them, given the cost of replacement batteries they will eventually need. That's why you can buy a Nissan Leaf relatively cheaply, although it still costs way more than the equivalent ICE car of the same age.
Most of those against EVs are against them because we don't believe we should be forced into them. Nobody forced anybody to buy a Betamax VCR or an iPhone, regardless of whether they were better or not and it's the same with EVs given that there is little to no advantage.
No evs for me
People were scared to give up their horse and buggies too….
I don’t blame you!
I rented a Tesla while I was in Michigan on vacation. Big mistake!!! I traveled all around the state and there’s a huge lack of charging stations. So if I had to charge the car. I was driving 30 minutes (each way) and spending 45 minutes waiting for the charge to complete. I had a range of 265 miles with a full charge. Ridiculous and a huge waste of time!
EV BUYING IS MERELY A BUYING A HYPE.
So why would you use an ev to travel outside of a city though lol? It’s common knowledge they take a while to charge and makes sense that chargers are not as available as a gas station
They are garbage 🗑 all it is a fire 🔥 Hazzard
What bollocks. You just don’t know what you are doing. Renting any EV without experience means you don’t know where/how to use chargers, don’t know about destination chargers, or have an extension cord for regular outlets.
EV owners charge overnight so it is full when they begin. The nav in the car will take you to superchargers on your route. 250 kw chargers take 20 minutes or less, I’ve never charged longer than that.
BTW, the range of the cheapest Tesla is about fours hours of driving time. 30 minutes round trip would use maybe 1/4 of your available range.
You made a lot of valid points. Recently an EV owner needed to get the batteries replaced. The vehicle had a little more than 160 000 km on it. He was quoted $50 000 to replace the batteries. Another EV owner also needed new batteries. He was quoted $20 000, In either case the repair costs are so high that the car owner ends up throwing the car in the garbage.
China makes EV cars too. The major brand in China is BYD. They are expanding into the world market now. They are priced well below most other EV"s.
The most important point you made was that these vehicles are new technology. So it is anybody's guess which model to buy. We do not know how long the batteries will last.
Lastly I did not consider the insurance cost. Tx. for mentioning that. Well for now I will stay with my gasoline powered vehicle.
Maybe the China ones are cheap but when its time for a replacement battery i expect it to be an expensive overall, the battery maybe cheap but having someone to replace it is where the cost will mount up.
Maybe the China batteries are cheaper. A whole bunch of batteries may have to be replaced and it is a lot of work. Therefore it is so expensive you may end up throwing the car in the garbage. @@ubolsueathet1201
Didn’t read go sharks
yea BYD is a scam did you see that giant ev graveyard in china with thousands of cars, they don’t even buy those ev’s
@@ubolsueathet1201yep, just like a gas engine.
Here in the Northwest, if you get into an accident with a Tesla, you may wait 6 months to get it repaired, even for a minor accident...
That's better than being in a carbeque
Don’t get into an “accident” problem solved 🎉
Yup. Been there done that 🤣
Good. Let them evs people deal with it.
A neighbor bought a brand new EV truck and then I noticed that it was gone for several months, and he was driving some car 😂 and finally it appears he got his brand new truck back from the shop
We live in NE Florida and had to go to NYC for a wedding. Thrifty Car rental only had Chevy "Bolts" ... I loved the pick up and general drive. But we had to charge it before returning the car. Every charging station was a slow charger.. we waited 1 hour for 25 miles! Also, the first 2 stations were not working. At home we would install a charger in the garage, but for anyone in an apartment or condo, the charging is a real issue.
That's why I went with Tesla. They have a reliable charging network and the cars are designed to be charged fast. This should change in the future as the other car manufacturers adopt the Tesla charging standard.
@@TeslaDawgFast charging degrades the battery faster. For someone like me who keeps a vehicle for 10+ years that's a REAL issue.
@@waynepurcell6058 - Studies show no statistically significant difference in battery degradation between those that fast charge frequently and those that don't.
@@TeslaDawg I'm a hybrid owner and I've seen differing opinions on this primarily because a fast charge heats up the battery. So I guess it depends on the auto design.
@@TeslaDawg Fake studies most likely. It's the chemical composition of batteries that defines how they react and perform, and heat is one of the biggest killers. The faster you charge, the more heat produced. Batteries have always had the same problem regardless of the appliance they're used in, they degrade with age. If people think that EV batteries are any different they're just being sold on the hype unfortunately. You cannot change the laws of physics.
Electrician here. Add in the cost of adding the charger to your home. Costs could range from a $300 to $20k depending on area, current load demand, your abilities and location of charger.
It did not cost me anything. I just plug into my dryer plug.
@@mocheen4837 good for you. Many prefer a quicker charge of a 50 or 60 amp charger which won’t work on a dryer circuit.
@@mocheen4837 or that their dryer is not in their garage or close proximity.
Yeah, another thing 'ta seriously consider....
Toyotas will charge on a 110 circuit.
I had the opportunity to drive EV for a week and a half. I drove the Hyndia Kona the only good thing is that it drove smooth and had a few good features, the main problems: trying to find a working charging station/ waiting for the other EV to charge at the charging station/ in the amount of time that it take to charge the EV you could have filled up 6 to 20 vehicles/ you will pass up 30 gas station driving around trying to find a charging station/ and sometimes the kios at the charging stations will not take your payment.
Many insurance companies have issues with EVs. My neighbor bought a new EV Cadillac and had an electrician install a charger in his garage. Agent asked for a picture of charger he sent it and a couple weeks later the company said he had to remove charger from the garage to outside at least 25 feet from any structure. 🤷♂️
And which insurance company is that? Because nearly all insurance companies unanimously agree that EV’s are 20-60 times less likely to catch Fire spontaneously compared to ICE cars.
@@engineeringtheweirdguy2103 That's totally wrong I deal with insurance companies everyday
@@engineeringtheweirdguy2103 You can claim your input all you want but facts remain EV insurance is higher than combustion engine vehicles
@@engineeringtheweirdguy2103 Live in denial and Merry Christmas to you and yours. 🎄
@@michaelwinkelman7165 then why do lost auto insurance companies have published on their websites independent studies they’ve commissioned that reveal EV’s are 20-60 times less likely to catch fire and to have those numbers corroborated but safety regulators across the globe like the American NHTSA and the Australian AANCAP safety board.
My biggest complaint is the publicized range, specifically from Tesla. I have 14,155 miles on my Model 3 SR+. When I bought the SR+ it said the range was 240 miles. Not even close. First, I cannot charge to 240 miles any longer, the max is equal to about 90% or ~215 range miles. Oh, the display says I charged to 100%, but the miles say differently. But wait, it’s worse. For every actual mile I drive, I consume 1.3 to 1.6 range miles with an average 1.5, depending on driving conditions and ambient weather. This mean when I charge to 100% and it shows 215 range miles, on average I can only get ~150 actual miles. A far cry from the 240 Tesla said I am supposed to get. Tesla says to limit charging to 80% for day to day driving. If I charge to 80%, I only get about 125 actual miles. Therein lies the problem, just as ICE vehicles have a city/highway MPG on their MSRP sticker, EV’s should also provide estimated actual driving city/highway ranges and not an overall range, nobody gets 100% of the range as published on the MSRP and website, if they say they do, they are lying. These estimated actual range values should be on every EV so potential buyers can make an intelligent and informed decision before they buy one and find out the real range is a fraction of what the mfg tells you on their website or MSRP sticker. I will likely never buy another EV.
BTW, great video!
I drive a 2016 Toyota Prius IV Touring (my 2nd....first was a 2006 Prius top of line). The sticker on my 2016 said 49/51 if memory serves me correctly. At this point my actual lifetime average mpg, summer and winter (i'm in northern NY) is 58.7 mpg. I don't baby it or try to hypermile like some Prius nutjobs do....I just drive the thing and put regular gas in it. I'm retired so I don't drive a bunch....only 25K on it so far. The 2006 was still going strong with all systems go at 126,000 miles in 2016 when I sold it privately. I only had to replace the front brakes once in that one and the tiny 'starter' battery...about $260.00. Thusfar in my 2016 I've had to replace the now-larger 12v 'starter'' battery twice so far--the larger battery that Toyota used and that the dealer replaced it with both seem to be junk. Tires on both cars were LRR and the former got good service life. I will not be going plug-in hybrid OR electric --my gas hybrid works great and has ultra low emissions as well as great fuel economy.
@@rchender Thank YOU for your honest opinion. The ONLY thing I would get is a Hybrid.
Thank YOU For your honesty! Exactly what I thought.
Nonsense.
Real descriptive comment there mostmost. Tells us nothing about what you feel/believe. @@mostmost1
My fear concerns the resale. If I decide to buy a Hyundai Ioniq ($55,000 Cdn) as an example and want to sell it 4 or 5 years down the road, I would expect to get maybe $15, 000. However, anyone wanting to purchase it would have to kept in mind that the battery replacement after 8 years or 160,000 km will cost about $51,000 with tax. Who in their right mind would buy a used electric vehicle. Even the cheaper Tesla batteries run $13,000 to $22,000.
So in 10 years the EVs will have no value. There's no sustainability here. Environmentalists are going to be terribly disillusioned in 10 years when the junkyards are full of EVs.
If you want to flip something, buy a house, not a car (any car).
Your numbers are all over the place. You exaggerated your numbers by a huge number lol. Little to negative
Well when it gets close to the time that the batteries will have to be replaced then you likely would not be able to sell the car for very much money.
@@sparky7915 there are Tesla’s out the that have hundreds of thousands of miles on it. If the battery isn’t supercharge 24/7 meaning you kept the health good and charged mostly at home you can drive a million on it.
Not ready to buy an EV, and your comprehensive review of the issues with EV’s gives me (more) solid reasons for waiting …
If you want EV Performance but Gas Reliability and Knowledge if you can find one go for a Gas/Electric you have the benefits of a Electric Motor and easy of refill and repair but unlike a Hybrid Less Weight and Complexity
If Toyota had been smart back in the day the would have moved after the Prius all new cars to be Fuel aka Gas Powered Electric t's literally the Benefits of both EV and Gas without the downsides of either (not too say its perfect!) Remember Hybrids still require Batteries and still have the Fuel Engine connect directly to a Driveshaft Clutch etc adding more wear and tear parts (aka Complexity!) as well as weight!
I have two Teslas and they work well for us. We also have two gas vehicles that we hardly ever use now.
One thing that wasnt mentioned is Safty. Ev batteries can be tempermental. Some have been known to spontaneously catch fire. If this happens the vehicle is consumed in flames very quickly and the fires from an EV is very hard to put out.
EV batteries are not like cheap batteries used in Chinese scooters and E Bikes.
spontabiously What is that?
Yeah, Exothermic Reaction that 'ya can't extinguish...
@@wolfguardian8312 Hardly occurs
Just dont buy a G M EV. You'll e safe.
……bought my petrol Datsun ‘Skyline’ sedan in 1979. I’m still driving it. Love it, always. My excellent mechanic, with whom I have it checked out, keeps it running ticketty-boo!
clunker-junker
Having worked in the I.T. industry for most of my career, I lerarned that the same old adage still applies as in the early years. "LEADING EDGE BLEEDNG EDGE"
So often in history pioneers get massacred.
Get smart and buy a hybrid. We have a ‘22 Honda Accord hybrid. Uses on board batteries that are charged when break is applied…e.g. at a red light. It carries gas but we get 42 mpg.
You are getting great mileage, sadly many hybrids do not … there is definitely a place for them. It’s a case of looking at what will fit your needs best …
Yep, until the technology works my next car is a hybrid.
My RAV4 also gets great gas mileage, 40 mile straight EV range too.
@@chrisbraid2907 The new Toyota trucks are hybrid but their emphasis is adding more horsepower for their use. Hybrids have 2 purposes, some are for added mpg, others for better towing capacity. RE; Tacoma, Tundra.
I avg 49 on my 2015 prius with over 350k miles.
Some of these youtube channels tell only one side of the story. Greatly appreciate covering both sides.
Thank you!
So true
I’ve got a neighbor that owns a Tesla. Today I was going to the mail box and he was screaming on the phone he kept saying never again,never again . I asked him if everything was alright,he told me that his Tesla had quit working and he had to h😮ave it towed to the shop. He’d just got a call from them telling him that his battery was fried and it was going to cost him $32,000 to replace it and some other stuff . His warranty was expired and it wasn’t worth anywhere near that . I felt sorry for him as I looked at my car and thought no way in hell , no way in hell .
@@donaldpiper9763Thanks for talking reality.
I have had an Ioniq5 for 2 years and am scratching my head with most of your problems. No issues with tyre wear, low servicing costs, no problems with any aspect ofthe car and its performance, exactly the same insurance costs as my petrol car, range displayed on screen is very accurate, no issues with public charging (to be fair i do have a home charger as well). Of course i share the concerns with the life of the battery, purchase price and resale as a consequence but at this stage i am going along, very quietly, for the ride!
The comment section is here for people who nothing about electric cars telling everyone the batteries going to die, the car will catch on fire or the classic my work is 1400 miles away so an electric car won't work for me
@@davemay7797 - You are so right, Dave! So I shall not comment on my flawless 2015 Nissan Leaf I bought in 2017 for $9K. I am retired, so long commutes don't come into play. Keeping the battery charge between 50 to 75% is indicating after 7 years ownership no appreciable degradation with average trips less than 20 miles. Charge at home off my backyard solar system and have only had to add washer fluid so far. So for a retired person an EV is likely the perfect car. take care, rh
I work at a mechanic shop, we see electric cars with tires that wear down twice as quickly as those with gas engines because they are sooooo heavy.
This is one of the most intelligent videos on the subject. Many videos promoting EVs are blatantly dishonest. They deliberately avoid many of the EV's weaknesses this video addresses.
RECOMMENDED STATE OF CHARGE
Yup, general advice is to keep your battery charged under 80%. Failure to do so has little to no consequence, except for increased risk of degradation. Advice also includes charging to 100% for long trips. Real EV drivers do both.
This applies more so to lithium MNC batteries, lithium fepho batteries can be charge to 100% with little degradation and a longer life with a slightly lower energy density
Also test have shown that dcfc a battery once a month or so can help extend the life expentancy
they do....
As a rideshare driver, I did a long study of EV's to determine if they were right for me. Uber had a promotion paying an extra $1 per trip to make it more attractive. After the study, I decided it was not worth it for several reasons. Some are listed in this video. Here are some more: 1. Fast charging reduces battery life. 2. Driving over 65MPH reduces range. 3. Cold weather (I live in MN) reduces range. 4. Battery takes a long time to warm up in the cold and further reduces range or uses your power. 5. Use of climate control reduces range. 6. Manufacturers prefer to replace rather than repair batteries making them more expensive to fix. 7. Most EV's have low ground clearance. You will bang the bottom of your car occasionally or more often in an icy winter. In an EV, you will be banging the expensive battery. (Last winter in MN, I knocked the skid plate off my Camry twice. You have a different experience when you drive everywhere rather than just your normal routes.) 8. Sometimes you cannot buy whatever tires you want meaning you cannot get the best winter tires. 9. Useable range is probably half what is advertised. (You need to regularly drive between 80-20% of capacity per manufacturer's recommendations and then reduce that based on everything else discussed.) 10. It costs much more to charge during the day if you drive at night. 11. There is no reason to think you can get several hundred thousand miles from an EV like you can from several cheaper cars. 12. Long repair downtime costs income. 12. Cheaper EV's (still more expensive than practical vehicles) tend to be RWD. They are much more expensive to get FWD or AWD. And here are Tesla-specific problems: 1. Touch screen windshield wipers are an automatic no. It is unsafe in conditions that require constant adjustments, and no automatic windshield wiper system will be good enough. This isn't just a preference. This setup should be illegal. I say this as someone who regularly drives through entire storms rather than someone who occasionally makes a short trip in the rain. 2. Touch screen controls for everything else are also problematic. I need to make adjustments as customers make requests in all traffic conditions safely. Touch screens are not safe for that. I could say no, but windshield wipers stand out as one you must use. I shouldn't have to say no since every other car manufacturer offers the necessary features properly. 3. Door handles and doors without a top frame freeze in the winter. 4. I don't want to have to explain to every drunk passenger how to open the door. 5. Tesla has a policy against rideshare drivers using super chargers. It is not currently enforced, but it is in writing so they can enforce it as demand for chargers increases. When you say you bought it for rideshare in protest, they will tell you their policy was published when you purchased it. 6. A "frunk" that breaks if it is closed hard is unacceptable and will break inevitably. I don't know if the car is undrivable while you wait on that repair.
It is hard to find a good deal on a newer but not new EV. I would rather buy a 2-year-old Camry getting 35MPG, drive it 2.5x's longer than a Model 3, and pay less than half as much with virtually no unscheduled maintenance.
Thanks for the detailed explanation. Now I'm prefer using hybrid ICE car 😊
@@Henry-gl8ud those are much better, but it is difficult to find a good deal on one if you buy 2 years old. It is good if you choose to buy new. If you search, you can sometimes find a really good deal on a regular car.
Your thoughtful research-based input should be at the top and read by everyone!!!
Agree that a lot of choices are examples of form over function, especially the touchscreen controls, and lack of frames. Sure they make it look and feel all futuristic, but when driving day in and day out rain or shine you just want what works and is practical.
The argument is that to get people into EVs you have to appeal to them, and it seems that a decent portion of the population are attracted to form over function type.
I’m with you though. Touchscreen windshield wipers are a blocker all by themselves.
That's damning! All valid concerns. I could add a couple more of the top of my head but what's the use? Everyone should have are made his mind up
Bought my 2020 honda insight with only 8 miles from a dealership. So happy I went hybrid instead of full ev. No problems for almost 4 years now. Not a single problem :)
Do a 600 mile round trip 5hrs bet you can't 😅
i can do 500 tops still good if you ask me! @@markell598
@@markell598 The Honda 2020 Insight is a hybrid, like they said - it can do over 500 miles (551 according to the blurb). Our 2017 ICE Toyota Verso can only do mid 400s on a tank. A hybrid makes sense if range is a worry.
Good video, but you forgot a couple of very important issues:
- Lifespan. EVs will on average last just under 10 years. For gas/diesel cars, the number is around 17 years (diesel slightly longer).
- EV batteries can easily catch fire, which is a complete nightmare to extinguish.
You're right about long warranty on EV batteries. But some companies, mainly Tesla, will ALWAYS try to blame the car owner when something happens, which is why there is ALWAYS up to several court trials going on at the same time, even here in Norway, which is a small country, population wise. I will NEVER buy a Tesla, because their customer service doesn't really exist, at least after you've bought the car.
Your right. Our Toyota Camry 2012 still runs as well as the day it was bought. Now the government wants us to buy an ev costing so much more than a gasoline car. Then after about 8 years you have to junk it because it will cost too much to replace the batteries. I hope they come out with hydrogen cars soon.
Nissan releases the Nissan Leaf with no battery cooling which negatively affected how long the battery lasted. No electric car manufacturer fell for that yet somehow, the anti EV community can't mentally update their facts and still dumbly claim they last 10 years.
EV batteries don't easily catch fire. As a percentage, they catch fire nearly 30 times less than ICE cars. I agree they are harder to extinguish but that's because the fire brigade don't all have the correct equipment. When petrol cars came out, the fire brigade couldn't put petrol fires out because they just used water. Technology catches up.
There will always be people blindly against the newest thing. When petrol cars came out there were people who would "never get one, it's not the future, I don't have to fill my horse up, there's nowhere to get fuel, they take ages to fill up" which is the same old nonsense we are hearing this time around.
I see things similarly to you. For me, the extremely high purchase price for electric cars is central. Some of the problems you mentioned could be avoided with a leasing contract. However, I suspect that the monthly rates will be correspondingly high.
My previous car was an ICE SUV.
Wasn't ready for full EV.
Bought a 2023 Tucson Hybrid about a year ago.
Very happy owning a Hybrid.
How many miles do you get on the battery?
@@doriangray6985 There's ICE, Hybrid, Plug-in Hybrid and EV... I only have a Hybrid, so the electric engine kicks in automatically here and there to save on gas, but usually only a mile or two at a time, depends on what you're doing with the gas... the purpose of a Hybrid is just an ICE car that has better gas mileage and more torque... the PHEV version of the Tucson gets something like 30 miles on Electric if I recall correctly.
I love my hybrid, just cuz it's basically an ICE car with great gas mileage and instant torque... i fuel up at the pump far less often than when I had an ICE car.
Well, i did my research and solved several of the problems you mention with my EV. I am not going to go into them but like this video says do your homework and decide based on your daily driving habits. I knew majority of the pros and cons before seeing this video.
Do not let the government make your decision for an EV, make it your choice of what type of vehicle suits your daily driving demands. Gas vehicles are still great and will be around for a long time. I purchased an EV because it was my choice and only my choice and it meets my daily driving needs. I still have my 21 year old Monte Carlo which also operates well - has only 111 thousand miles on the OD.
i've driven an ev now for 4 months. not one issue. zero. none. i do not expect the car to drive itself. i am perfectly capable.
I live near the Reno, Nevada and there are lots of EVS, mostlyTeslas, here. They can generally be seen between here and almost anywhere in California. Once you head east into the desert and then across most of the US until you get to more major cities, you see almost none of them. Cost may be an issue as those in the hinterlands do not have as much money as those in big cities, but I believe that range and lack of charging stations are two major problems. I recently drove cross country in my Camry hybrid only stopping for gas every 500-600 miles. After 5-10 minutes, I was on my way again. On the open western and midwestern roads and freeways EVs were basically non-existent. I will buy one when true range is 400 miles or more and there are plenty of charging stations. Also, charging times need to be faster than 20 minutes. I am not sure if this is possible. EVs are perfect for short to medium range trips, not long distances. Many Americans cannot afford to have two cars, so the ICE vehicle is their choice.
Lucid Air has over 500 miles range but it's too expensive, can't justify saving gas money.
EVs will never do what ICEs do. Not only are the drawbacks inherent to the technology but the infrastructure is a century behind ICE.
Another item that is potentially more of an issue than the batteries are the motors themselves. They are more likely to go before the battery.
I've read reports from EV owners that were saying that the motors only last 200 to 300k. Not cheap to replace and apparently not covered by the warranty in some cases.
But the biggest issue I personally have with EVs is the government mandating them.
Let the market decide.
The market is deciding, they are not buying them.
The exception is Tesla
Governments are using a very big stick without understanding the real impacts. If the technology, infrastructure and price was right, the markets would natuarly move in the direction Govs want. Because none of it is though, they force it through, and as consumers are easy targets, we have no say whatsoever.
I do not think motors or inverters would present issue in the long term. I work in the industrial environment with hundreds of Fanuc robots and conveyors. Electric motor or inverter would normally be the last thing to fail, and usually only because of the mechanical failure like abnormal ware of gears after a few million of cycles start binding and overloading it.
"Only" 300k, meanwhile fossil cars never have an engine break down before 300k, yes ?
@S9999Frank That's not what I'm saying. Just saying that EV's get promoted as no maintenance, cheap to own and while some aspects are right, there are costs that potential owners should be aware of.
What happens to the range when you turn on the heater or AC, doesn't that deplete the battery too?
I have had my EV for 15 months and I have driven 30K klm I am 100% happy with the car ( Genesis GV60 ) I live in BC Canada and we have lots and lots of EV charging stations . I just drove from Vancouver Island to Calgary Alberta and back I never had to wait to charge at any charging station and the best part they were all free fast charging Chevron On The Run are all free charging . As far as the tire wear once you get past the novelty of the insane speed and power and just stay in the Eco mode you will have normal tire wear and much better range .
Perhaps you'll consider a long trip to New York City?
Manhattan has a couple of charging stations and more in other boroughs.
Just hope when you need charging there is no one ahead of you.
I have a 2013 Tesla model S with 188,000 miles. Battery capacity is still showing 87%. I've had some minor problems but nothing that would stop me from driving the car. Rear brakes are original and still show lots of remaining life. One thing to keep in mind is that when ice vehicles first came out it took many years to build up the infrastructure.
Ridiculous
Have u saved enough on gas to make up for the ev cost?
@@hopsterbb2571 Exactly... I often think about the FACT that EV's have actually been out since the beginning of the automobile. But they don't want to talk about that FACT. And why didn't they catch on when higher amperage and voltage was going to homes since the beginning? He makes an EXCELLENT point about the tires just for starters. My neighbor bought a Tesla last year, adn was hit in a Walmart in the parking lot, it didn't seem like a bad hit, but it totalled the car with the backup sensors etc. And the Insurance cost... HUGE.
@@patrickmcguire2434 Right on!
Ok I guess that sounds bad and it was hit was unremarkable but let's be honest this guy is anti ev. At fhe end of the day for the first 10 years of ownership of a cat at normal usage rates ev are cheaper to run . Hence why tesla able to hit close to two million run rate and BYD even more. If there were systemic drive train and battery issues they'd be reported on. Hence tesla has had large scale sales of model 3 for a while now in there quarterly earnings they don't report any major warranty expenses. Unlike Ford who has recently reported a bump in warranty expenses from gas cars. For whatever reasons dude doesn't mention tons of people reporting never having to go to dealership at all. Case in point me. Owned a model 3 since may 2019 spent 300 dollars in total maintenance. Friend has done the same thing with his. Yes I would love to be able to go 600 km in one trip but as he says the charging network is there. But the fact that I don't have to worry about spark plugs transmission fluid radiator fluid oil filters fuel filters right now is just building up savings. At the close to five year point this is when my savings start to pile up in terms of maintenance. The author of this knows this full well. The problem is now I'm getting bored with the car but I never have to go to a dealership no chance to get suckered into getting another car. This TH-camr really ain't that helpful.
Buying a PHEV and charging it at home overnight makes a lot more sense for most. Or save more up front and buy a used hybrid. Toyota hybrids are often reliable to 175 thousand miles. A short drive to work will save you a lot of time and money.
Correct but if you keep driving a short distance and the engine unable to perform their role then … will be a problem too. Engine under performing can cause more trouble ( this is my opinion only)PHEV
But you still end up maintain the engine and a more complex system in general. If it has to be a toyota.
Toyota plans to start producing electric vehicles (EVs) in the United States in 2025. The company's first U.S.-assembled battery electric vehicle will be a three-row SUV. Toyota also plans to start production at its first battery plant in North America, located in Liberty, North Carolina.
I like the way the problems are presented from the standpoint of practical issues as opposed to political or economical issues. This video is a good warning about doing your research before you buy.
Thanks mate! Great video. Kinda messed up showing us amazing ev models while listing their pitfalls 😂🤣
Thank you for the answer review! I wonder if you could share some of the concerns about hybrid and EV batteries EMF effect on health.
EMF effect on health? My understanding of EMF is electro magnetic force. EMF is generated when an electric or magnetic field changes. A battery is static DC, it does not create an EMF. The motor in an EV does use an EMF to produce the rotational force, but it is contained within the motor casing, because not doing so will reduce efficiency.
No worries. Not enough force. Your cell phone is stronger.
They are not perfect, but I've experienced only one of these issues with my 2018 Model 3 long range with 33k miles. No range anxiety, very little battery degradation (-10 miles) , zero issues when using superchargers, still on my original tires (my previous Acura burned through tires every 20k miles) . I had one recent repair of the power conversion system costing $1900. I would absolutely purchase another Tesla, but will keep one gas vehicle as well
It was mentioned that Tesla would not be facing the same challanges that the legacy automakers are facing. Tesla has been making EV's for many years and has built an infrastrucure around their brand. Ford ,GM, Toyota, etc. are just beginning to build EV's, and they don't know what to do. They can't produce these cars in the traditional way and make a profit, so they are overchargimg customers who purchase their ICE vehicles to finance their EV division.
I'm surprised on the 20,000 miles. Mine are 55,000 and just got a pass from a tire shop inspection and rotation.
@@GNMi79 Lol $320 is less than transmission fluid costs for my Audi. You've never had ANY repair bills kiddo.
One thing not mentioned is that in some states if not all it is more expensive to register an EV.
We leased our first EV in 2002 from Ford - an imported Norwegian Th!nk City. It was perfect for my partner and my needs. We had it for two years, then Ford recalled the lease, due to a Supreme Court decision ending a California law requiring automaker requirement a certain percentage of zero-emission vehicles. Eight years later I was able to purchase an American-built Th!nk. We are still using it as our only vehicle. It’s been in the shop only for preventative maintenance, tires, and replacement headlamps. The batteries, now approximately 15 years, old still charge to 95%. The company is out of business now, and our Th!nk may outlive us, being in our late 70s.
Not every vehicle is right for everyone or every use. We have owned pickups and muscle cars each for it’s own specialty. Our long range Model Y is a great car. 20 months old 20,000 miles. A half dozen trips over 600 miles round trip and one over 1400 miles. When local we charge in our garage 8cents kWh or free from solar. We have never had issues on the road. This car is the best car I have ever owned. Cheap to operate, maintenance is nothing, fun to drive. Not for everyone and every situation but really good fit for many.
Agree. I have had my model 3 for 4 years, and have done just over 165,000 km and could not be happier for the same reasons.
Come back and comment on Year 11.
@@EarthyLee Year 11 weird, how much is an 11 year old ICE vehicle worth and at that point how much is it costing to keep on the road.
@@peterhicks5590Lots actually. If you want to carry more than one bike it is best to have a bike rack on a towbar. Picking up a load of gravel from the garden centre, or taking a load of rubbish to the tip, or helping children move house with a box trailer are all very easy with an EV. Many of the EV owners I know have tow bars. What are your "good reasons" for your doubting? If you need to take a caravan 1000km into the outback in a single day you are a rare use case.
The statement that you could be replacing your tires 2 to3 times more often with an EV is unfounded and in my opinion totally false. Based on my experience and what I have been reading the extra wear could be more in the order of 20% for average drivers . So, this is not a major problem (unless you abuse a lot of the extra power often available with EVs)
I fully agree with that, it is a false statement, my 450 HP 4wd Chevy pick-up is heaver than my Model 3 and it doesn’t eat tires unless I keep using the gas peddle as an on and off switch.
You have two people giving you unsubstantiated reports that the tyre change statement is false and apparently one other unsubstantiated report elsewhere in these comments telling you that it's true. That you chose to go with the one report is an interesting choice.
As another EV owner I can tell you that, unless you drive it like you stole it, your tyres will wear a little faster than an ICe vehicle but changing them 2 to 3 times more often is total rubbish. @@GNMi79
Well ok
Let me put it this way
Most ice vehicles can go
And buy the cheap azz tire
And go about
But not with ev tesla
The sheer weight of that ev
Will eat those cheap tires
Thats a proven fact.
Did the creator of the video actually say he had an EV? @@GNMi79
Your statement "But not with ev tesla
The sheer weight of that ev
Will eat those cheap tires" is an interesting one.
These numbers are from the relevant manufacturers web sites.
Tesla Model 3: Length 185.8" or 4,719.32mm
Weight 1,765 kg
BMW M3: Length 4,794mm
Weight 1,805 Kg
Similar vehicle sizes similar weights. Interestingly it's difficult to get the weights of other similarly sized cars.
How are you proving you fact? @@plusblood5101
I reside in the US. Not only the cost of EV cars are much higher, but so is the insurance. I looked into the 2024 BMW iX M60. The annual insurance was about $5,600 vs. the 2024 BMW X7 M60i at $2,900. The insurance for the 2024 BMW i7 is about $10,000 vs. the 2024 BMW 760i xDrive is about $3,900. Not to mention, in the US, we have numerous power outages that prevent those with electric cars from charging their cars at home. Electric companies like PG&E or Edison have increased the household rates by about 32%, which the cost of charging an EV car is almost as if you are spending over $3 dollars per gallon for a gas car. A friend of mine needed to change the battery for his 2015 Tesla. The cost was about $25,000 plus an additional $5,000 for California environmental fee. Overall cost of battery replacement was more than the value of the car. He donated the car and he said he will never get an EV car again. Mercedes, BMW, Audi, and Porsche to name a few have well over hundreds of thousands of brand-new 2023 or 2024 EV inventories that they can't push out. Porsche Tycan is one the most expensive EV cars and you can find thousands of 2023, 2022, or 2021 for sale for less than $70K. Ford dealers have thousands of EV cars and they are not even getting help from the manufacturer. GM CEO wrote to the Biden administration that they can't sell EV cars and it has cost the company about 1 billion dollar loss. More and more people are walking away from EV cars.
What you fail to emphasise is that no longer can a local garage carry out servicing & that once committed to a particular concessionaire one has no choice but to accept whatever they deem the charge to be.
A big drawback for me, not even factoring in the actual cost of the car itself, is how to charge it. I've heard that most of the time, and obviously it can vary, you're probably looking at no less than half hour to charge to 80%, with a full charge taking ridiculously longer. How would I be able to charge though? I would have to do public pay charging stations since I live in an apartment complex and have zero hope of charging overnight. And don't even get me started on that recommendation to only charge up to 80% capacity thing. Why? Why is it recommended to not fully charge your vehicle? As it stands right now, I have a Blazer that I absolutely love having, in spite of the fact that it gets pretty terrible mileage. I fuel up once a week, on Friday evening on my way home from work. Five minutes, and I'm gone, full to the top. What if I could only fill its tank to the 80% mark, or if my fuel tank was 20% smaller? I'd be filling up to go around 200 miles, roughly equivalent to what I could expect of an EV, except it would still take five to six times less to fuel up than an EV. If my tank was 20% smaller, how much less time would it take, maybe a minute or two, three at the absolute most? Because who wouldn't want to sit around at a public charging station for half an hour on their way home from work on Friday? Short answer... Me. I wouldn't want to.
Well, you're not supposed to charge them to 100% or you decrease the life of the battery.
And don't get them under 20% because.... you guessed it, you decrease the life of the battery.
@@teekay_1 Yep, so you are only effectively getting 60% of the usable capacity. Winter is going to be fun for a lot of EV owners, with drastically reduced range they're going to have to charge en-route, almost certainly at lower power. Which means sitting in their car during rain, sleet, snow and whatever else the weather throws at us while the car charges.
Imagine it starts to snow and you have to stop for an hour to charge your car to get home? You might not even make it out of the service station by the time it's done. No thanks.
Funny thing is you still seem to get EV owners that think this is somehow more convenient than stopping to fill up with fossil fuel for 5 minutes. Maybe we should start installing outside toilets again too, it has to be more convenient than going upstairs to pee, right?
@@severnsea especially now that the climate is returning closer to "normal" for much of the US, which means much colder winter north of DC.
45 minutes is assuming there's no one in line in front of you charging their vehicle ... bring a book, you could be a lot longer sitting there.
Also in cold weather, you'll have to run your heater in order to defrost your windshield (and not freeze to death) ... that's will kill your battery (and driving range) even more.
@@Mr_Spock512 Exactly. But the EVangelists never tell you about that. Bet it's not in the brochures either.
I have had a Tesla for two years, and my wife has a Defender we have a the gas ride if needed. I don’t think I could go back to a gas-powered car. I charge 99% of the time at home.
I'm sure the vehicles are very nice, but not many families can afford to have $150,000 tied up in automobiles that are losing value every day.
@@aceroadholder2185 my Tesla was 50K though. The prices will come down. Small cars for urban environments not giant electric SUV long haulers that’s foolish.
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@@aceroadholder2185some people don't have money to buy a car at all. Do you think about them when you drive your car? People buy what they want/afford.
Good luck also driving an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne (Australia) which I can currently do on one tank of fuel, without having to stop to charge.
Yep, unless EVs can match that range they’re a downgrade.
Say what you like about EVs, but for my part I've had a Kia Soul EV for 18 painless months and I've been so impressed with it that I would never go back to owning an ICE car.
After 4 1/2 year of owning a Tesla Model 3, I am yet to find it having a single noteworthy disadvantage over my preceding BMW 330i. I see only advantages... and major ones at that.
In particular, their network of superchargers is extremely reliable (I have personally encountered only once a faulty charger, and had to wait 5-10 mn for a functioning one to be available... the only time I had to wait).
I suppose that the owners of non-Tesla EVs might have a different perspective, though.
Well in that 5-10 min wait, I filled my Honda Odyssey from EMPTY to FULL, allowing me to go another 400 miles for another 3-minute fill.
@@henryhill3778 I spend no time whatsoever, not even 3 minutes, charging my EV, 90% of the time. I sleep... or perhaps do another nocturnal activity, while it is automatically being done!
The other 10% of my charging is done on road trips at superchargers. It takes a bit of time... a bit more than 3 minutes, that much is true. However, I actually spend LESS time per year waiting for my EV to be charged, than I spent breathing gasoline fumes while filling up my previous gas car!
Charging time and the availability of chargers are NON ISSUES!
I am not even counting the hours waiting in queue to fill up that most French motorists have to endure every other year or so, because of strikes (IF they find any gasoline at all). Last year it happened, earlier this year, I passed by long queues with a big smile on my face. But I agree that this is mostly linked to the... peculiarities of living in France... Last time the same happened in my home country was 1973!
One major disadvantage is not having the freedom to drive wherever you want, hoping there is a charger up ahead that works or is not already being used. Or having to pay thousands to have your own home charger installed. And third, just the fact that you are driving a disposable vehicle that no one will want in ten years. I see plenty of disadvantages with electric cars, and have no interest in them.
@@studebricker2845 You do not "see" disadvantages, you "imagine" them!
I went camping deep in the boonies with my Tesla, and ALWAYS found a practical way to charge it, even far out in the mountains.
My home charger did not cost me "thousands". It cost me precisely the equivalent of $1200, installed. And that was an EXCELLENT investment. But, you can also do without a home charger, especially if you drive only a few tens of miles every day.
A "disposable" vehicle? What do you mean? After 10 years and 200'000 miles, a Tesla still looks super sharp, is not even half-way through its life, and would fetch a perfectly reasonable price... better actually than a gas vehicle with identical mileage.
Don't forget the lifetime fuel savings of over $40,000 and for some high end cars and most Pickups the lifetime savings are over $60,000.
Facts I did not know about tires, insurance, and, of course, resale value. Great video.
Thank you!
Re: tires, should be clarified the JD Associates survey with "13,000 miles" replacement stat refers to OE tires. Misleading to translate this to "2 - 3x" replacement cycle as new tires can be a better spec or tech vs the original tires. The slight cost premium of EV specific tires does not come close to extra ICE costs; especially performance vehicles.
Re: resell with old battery (8 years+), there are options beyond new replacement. Refurbishment (like a tune up) can provide a practical second life to an existing battery with capacity recovery up to 90%. Given this item is long term costs will go down significantly, while simultaneously providing an Upgrade to range and other stats. With more EV's being written off due to high costs / giga casting trend, there will be more used batteries medium term.
Disclaimer: Satisfied PHEV LiPO owner; encourage others to wait for semi-solid 4C+ capable batteries.
Don’t believe all the negative “facts” in this video. I have owned a Tesla for 5 years and some of the points in the video are true but I can honestly report to you I will NEVER go back to a combustion engine car again! Let me explain. My home has 60 solar panels installed on its roof. The panels supply all of my homes power needs and has enough to supply my car for a zero out of pocket cost for all of my needs. So I enjoy energy independence. I don’t have to get oil changes or tuneups. I keep my tires inflated to proper air pressures and put water in the windshield reservoir. The tires get rotated every 10,000 miles. That’s it. Other then wash and wax once a month. Brakes that will last a lifetime because you never really use the brakes because the car regenerate that power in momentum to recharge the battery while stopping the car. ( no energy lost ) plus no emissions from a nonexistent tale pipe! Add to the fact you will no longer be getting screwed at the gas station really is satisfying!
Insurance for EV's is comparable to ICE vehicles. Given that you can see a lifetime fuel savings of over $40,000-$60,000 and a a lifetime maintenance savings of $10,000-$20,000 the cost of tires and depreciation on an EV should not be much of a worry.
@Dallas-wu6st
Everything he brought up are all facts.
Excellent video!!!!I drove a loaner electric Mercedez EQS for over a month….. most importantly you have to have a home Fast charger number 2,don’t plan of making any long road trip like 100 miles or more cause you will definitely experience stress ….if you get one just use it for a daily commute or for errands around town
I’ve experienced the anxiety and I agree with you 150%
I have an EV for 4 years now and I am very satisfied. No problem at all, everything is OK. My next car will be an other EV.
Where do you live? If your in a warm climate year long then they are okay but living in Canada or a cold climate area then they are massively unreliable.
Im sure the children mining for your batteries will be well chuffed
I’ve had my 22 Chevy Bolt EUV for over a year now. It only costs me $3-$4 per charge during off-peak times, at home once or maybe twice a week. The maximum stated range is about 250 miles, but I only charge it to 80% (200 miles). I rarely use the actual brakes since regen braking works so well. I still have my ice powered pickup truck if I need to travel over 200 miles, but 95% of the time I just use the EV. With gas costing over $5 in CA I just smile at the people waiting in line for the cheapest at Costco.
Will those same people smile at you when yr bolt spontaneous combusts on yr driveway and takes your house with it?
@@hcw199 Well just before I purchased my car, GM replaced the battery pack with a new one. So that’s not something I’m too worried about, but keep reading the stories about the one car out of millions that this issue impacts if that makes you feel better. I’ll be happy saving money.
Thats really good.
Ev is firmly entrenched on the road. Too late to reverse the trend back to fuel based. Efficiency will determine market forces.
$3-$4 per charge means you are only loading 15KWH or so, which means either your math is off, or you are only driving 50 miles between charges. An EV is an expensive toy to not be using it much,so it sounds like you would save money if you just drove your truck all the time.
In New Zealand lots of these EVs start at about $70.000 have a 5 yr warranty and replacement batteries can cost tens of thousands of dollars, better to go and buy a Hilman Hunter, it'll still get you there. 🙂
Replacing batteries on a EV is as common as an engine swap on a ICE
@@Eddie_-_So many EV supporters talk about long term ownership as 10 years. I drive my ICE cars for almost 2 decades (currently a 2008 Odyssey) and have never have had to do engine swaps (nor even major repairs as I drive Hondas and Toyotas) There is no experience or discussion yet on how an EV will hold up after 10 years. I seriously doubt the batteries won't need replacing during that time.
How about the wiring in older houses? Will you be able to charge your vehicle at home?
There are (at present) three charging levels. Level 1 is plug into a standard 110 volt outlet - the car comes with one of these plugs. That is super slow and can take 40 to 50 hours for a full charge (no kidding). Level 2 is a dedicated 220 volt outlet, like what your stove or clothes dryer has. You can have one of these wired up and a home charging station installed. They typically charge at 1 minute per mile of added range. A 60 minute charge will get you 60 miles of range. Then there's Level 3, which is a public charging station with a super charger. These can get you 250 miles of range in as little as 20 minutes. But not all public chargers are super chargers, so be ready for that surprise.
@davidallen5535 been charging my Volt for 10 yrs from1960s home 110
Price
Range anxiety
Lack of working chargers
Cost of charging
Fire hazards
Insurance problems, charging indoors.
Depreciation
Cold performance
Rebates and subsidies ending
ICE cars are MORE likely to catch fire! I've had NONE of your list of problems
Me personally, a Flex Fuel Plug in Hybrid with at least 100mile range. Reason is most people's commute is less than 100mile round trip on average. So it means I rarely have to charge on the go and if I do need to make those long distance trip, I don't have to worry about stopping at any charging station where the price per charge can vary greatly.
What's the vehicle?
take a train
My biggest concern for now is that I drive on highways for about 120-150 miles one way a few times a month. Sometimes, the destinations are not a city with plenty of charging stations. I don't want to have to stop somewhere (for 30-40 minutes to charge) on the way home because my range of ~200 miles are not enough for my entire round trip.
Anyone's got similar experience?
Plan accordingly. If I go out to bum fuck outback, I just take my truck.
@@blackhawk7r221 Agree. That means EVs are still not practical beyond city driving.
@@Ian-mv4qq Honestly, it all depends on how much battery you want to carry around. Same can be said for fuel tank size. I used to have a hotrod with a Buick Nailhead that got 9mpg off of a 12 gallon aluminum tank.
@@blackhawk7r221 That's true but at least with ICE you can get gas almost anywhere evem in the mountain.
My friend commutes in a Tesla all highway driving and is normally an hour each way. He has 140,000 miles on his Tesla and only changed his tires.
With an ev, you only save fuel cost if you charge at home. Any time you charge at a public charging station, the cost per mile is about the same as using gas.
TRUE But why would you charge anywhere but at home... except on long trips
Most of my driving involves longer distance so, no, EVs aren't a consideration for me nor will they likely ever be. My EV owning friends often tell me there are "superchargers" across the country which can be used to quickly charge EVs during longer trips. I always respond with a challenge: I will race them from Atlanta to LA and back. I never get a response. :)
Come on you have to make it a fair challenge. You go from Atlanta to LA & back, your ev cohorts fron Atlanta to LA only. Could be a close call.
Maybe they have jobs 🤷
@@farnthboy LOL. I'm making it fair. I don't even ask them to tow anything.
You mean like I had for 40+ years? Yeah - maybe.
Sure if your job is to race from LA to Atlanta, then current EV's are not for you. But the line, "I race from LA to Atlanta for a living," is a line said by no one in history.
Hi,
I have a Tesla3 with 9500 miles. I drive in average about 40 miles every day. I charge it overnight 60 miles. A pleasure to drive and enjoy road trips about 200 miles round trip. A year before buying the Tesla I installed solar panels, so basically the electricity is free as the solar system produces enough kilowatts hours for both my house and car. Highly recommended!
Dan
You didn’t pay anything for your solar system. Where do I sign up
I have the same situation! Screw the oil companies! Also added a nice battery backup to my home to be recharged by my 60 solar panels on the roof. So mostly keep all my energy for my own needs and send a few KWHs to the grid. I could go off grid but by city ordinance I am required for some reason to stay grid tied. But the electric company is the energy provider of last resort! With few exceptions have added to the grid rather then had a taken from it at the end of the month.
That is exactly my plan. I’m thinking about adding 8 more solar panels to add more kilowatts hours to charge a Tesla Y I’m buying for my wife. We are both retired so most likely these will be our last vehicles.
Thanks for your comments.
Dan
I bought a Tesla Model Y RWD, which is equipped with LFP batteries. You can charge them to 100%, a practice I follow daily as it's more cost-effective. Another key aspect is the reliability of Tesla chargers if you own a Tesla. Your points about extreme temperatures affecting range apply to both electric and gasoline cars since extreme climates can reduce their efficiency. So far, I'm thoroughly enjoying the ride and haven't encountered any issues. Additionally, I'm saving approximately $200 per week by driving electric.
$200 a week that's an average of 4 tanks a week you must live a charging station
@@6421rich depends on the local price of gas. I have a long range model Y, and I’m saving nearly $200 AUD per week in Melbourne as I have a long ass commute to work every day, and family lives a long way away on weekends. Home charging more than keeps up with my charging needs.
$200 a week saving. Comparing cost of electricity and diesel, that would equate to about 1800 miles week in my diesel car, or 94,000 miles a year. You must have one hell of a commute.
@@malcolmabram2957 was actually comparing to the price of diesel. My cars average energy consumption is 0.13kWh/km. And costs 0.28c per kWh. Cost of fuel here is $2.30/L here in Australia. An equivalent performing car would consume 10L/100km. Or 0.1L/km. So an EV costs me $0.036 per km and a petrol car would cost me $0.23 per km. I currently do 170km per day, just to get to work and back. My family lives in outback Australia and recently I’ve been going out every weekend to help my brother with his newborn baby, adding between 250-300km on the weekend. If we do the maths, that’s around 1,100km per week. So I’m saving around $213 per week on fuel alone. Much less a service every 10 weeks or less.
@@malcolmabram2957 so as I said. Depends on your local price of fuel.
Any thoughts on getting a high milage one and replacing the battery? Would that be a good way to go. Otherwise one a couple years old still under warranty might be a good idea to avoid buying new.
No. Because the batteries are hugely expensive.
I saw a Ted talk last year about the carbon footprint of EV not being what you think by a longshot. Because of the mining of the rare earth metals required for the batteries. It takes about 5 to 6 yrs on avg for an EV to break even with an ICE vehicle. Believe it or not, the vehicle with the smallest carbon footprint is actually a hybrid. That is what i plan on getting for my next jeep.
Unfortunately the talk was out of date by the time it aired. New battery technologies have none of these issues and are now dominant in the biggest EV market place in the world, with their cars that are exported widely including the RWD Tesla Model 3 & Y also using these batteries.
Hybrid are the way to go
@@blue_ish4499 Yeah the worst of both worlds. Have a look at transport Evolved where one of the crew is $10K under water on a Volt after making $3K in repairs and it needs $6500 to replace 1/3 of the battery. He gets the best of both worlds repairing the ICE part and the EV part. Say no ho hybrids.
Ironically if you removed the battery completely (apart from the lead acid) then the carbon footprint would be even less. Also if you ever charge from the grid then you emit CO2 per KWH. Yours is an external combustion engine or remote combustion engine, there is no such thing as a free lunch as the saying goes
@@GDM22 there are no new battery technologies, it's the same old shit tweaked. Nor are there any groundbreaking clean solutions to the environmental disaster that is EV battery production going to emerge. These are just lies you have been fed. The information was still correct and only some batteries in the Tesla range do not contain cobalt, however what they do contain is dangerous, poisonous and environmentally unsound. Which is fine if it only impacts people miles away from you and pretty much sums up the attitude of EV owners generally.
We have owned an EV for 4 years now, and have experienced none of those major problems. Yes we have noticed battery degradation, but it hasn't impacted how we drive at all. We bought it for around town driving only. We also have a diesel SUV for towing or long distance driving. It all a matter of using the correct vehicle for the job.
@@rgroove1970 No. Ifyou can only afford one car then make it an ICE. There is no way that ICE will be banned despite what some governments are saying.
No it is not. People like you don't understand that the vast majority of people cannot afford to buy a different vehicle for a different job. Apart from that, if you're buying more than one car then you're contributing more to global emissions, not less, especially if it's an EV given that they are responsible for much higher emission figures than ICE cars at the manufacturing stage.
@@malcolmtaylor1224 In the long run ICE is doomed. No way I'd buy a new ICE vehicle in 2024.
Some of these points will not apply to many people. I've owned an EV for 15 months and in that time I've used a public charger twice, despite doing over 20k miles per year. In my case, both times I used a public charger there were no issues and no need to download an app, although I accept that this won't always be the case. In terms of range variability, the same is true of ICE vehicles. My previous deisel car used to get about 70mpg in the summer and 50mpg in the winter, although again this totally depends on how you use the vehicle and what your climate is like. My maintenance costs have been far lower with an EV. Mine is a Hyundai, as was my previous deisel vehicle. Both vehicles were supposed to be services every 10k miles. The deisel I would get serviced every 10miles, so over twice per year, which in the UK would cost me about £1000. My EV I only get services every 20k miles, because 10k seems pointless and after the first 20k miles all I was charged for was one hours labour as there was nothing that needed doing, cost £165. I use the same tyres as I did on my deisel. The cost is £10 more per tyre, because I use the high load version. Previously I was replacing the tyres every 20k miles, whereas now it's about every 15k miles, so it was about £360 per year and is now £530 per year. My insurance was about the same in the first year of ownership, but has gone up £60 for the second year. Apart from the fact that the overall maintenance has cost me a lot less, I also save £250 per month on fuel, but my overall cost of ownership is very similar between the two, because of higher monthly finance costs, due to the higher purchase price.
In my experience ownership has been a totally painless experience, although I am part of a very small niche group for whom I think EV's make financial sense, that is people who do higher mileage, preferrably exclusively around town, but who can almost always charge from home. This will not be the case for most people who will either do lower mileage or will make up their higher mileage with longer journeys on faster roads.
I still think the biggest problem with EV's is the fact that being a new technology there is always the possibilty that there will be a breakthrough that renders current EV's obsolete and worthless.
Hydrogen.
Thanks for being honest about your experience and situation with regard to EVs. They are NOT for everyone. But they are suitable for people in certain situations, and you mention some of those -- home charging, local driving, etc.
£1000 to service a Hyundai diesel? I've never paid over £350 and I drive a Jag. As for range, a 20 mpg drop in the winter, I don't get that. I don't know what mine is, using heated seats, a/c all the time, screen heaters and so on and I've never noticed any significant drop in range so it can't be much and absolutely nowhere near 20mpg. You also didn't include the depreciation factor.
That said, I don't particularly think it's price that's the number one thing that holds people back as anybody who can afford a new car can almost certainly afford a new EV. Value, on the other hand, is another thing entirely.
@@rgroove1970 That's EXACTLY what I keep saying to those raving about the cheap Chinese EVs that are on the way, I've challenged the Chinese to come back in 10 years and tell us how good they are then. Needless to say I've had no takers.
Makes me laugh how EV owners get through a year with no problems and think it's something special, some sort of achievement - maybe it is for an EV. My car is 15 years old next year and got through the year with no problems. Same last year etc.
These will be bad for the environment in the long term because when they get to 10 years old they'll be scrapped. Who is going to buy a 10 year old EV knowing that at some point during their ownership it's that much closer to needing new batteries, or motors, or heat pumps etc; all expensive components.
You didn't mention the connectors for recharging. Does every car make have identical connectors for recharging? Do all the recharge stations have the same plug-in configuration, so any model car can recharge at any recharge station?
No. There are basically Tesla connectors for Tesla's, and CCS connectors for everything else. Though, the industry is now moving to everything using Tesla connectors (NACS), so in a few years every car should be able to charge at every charge station, in theory.
I'll probably buy an EV in the future. I do plan to push off the purchase as long as possible, because the longer I wait the more progress will be made on charging infrastructure and the technology for both the cars and the batteries. Looks like Tesla model 3 and Y is now financially comparable to new ICE vehicles and cheaper than some too.
My thoughts exactly 👍🏾. I’ll give it a few more years
Electric vehicles will never replace gas vehicles
We can get a bigger and more upgraded SUV for $50k than the Y.
@@jaguar1568 We'll discuss this in 10 years or less! Over here in Europe, EVs are replacing gas vehicles at an ever increasing rate, and the replacement, at the level of new sales (obviously, there will still be an aging gas car fleet on the roads for a couple more decades), will be mostly over around 2030!
Think of it: I live in France, and fueling my preceding BMW 330i would cost me 9 times more per mile than charging my Tesla Model 3! I agree that France is a special case with particularly expensive gas and cheap electricity, but even if the ratio is lower, it is still true in all countries.
@@jaguar1568Ahhh, that's the same thing the horse and carriage owners said about the gas cars. Where are all of the horse and carriages today? 0:07
Wow, the anti-EV FUD is strong with this video. I own both a 23-year old Lexus and a one-year-old Ford Mach-e. I've put 20,000 miles on the Ford and have had zero issues. The idea that the tires wear early is crap. I've seen no more wear on mine than on the Lexus. Also, the battery "issue" does not exist. I have a vendor who purchased a ten-year-old Tesla with 130,000 miles. The battery had degraded about 10%. He took it to a repair shop, and spent $1,000 to update the battery with more range than new and a five-year warranty.
Just curious what oil company is behind this video.
You people are delusional. You would never admit how badly they suck.
I've owned a Tesla P85DL for 9 years and 95,000 miles. I really like the car but it's been expensive to own when you include the initial cost, even though I have free supercharging. I have spent more on repairs than most of my ICE vehicles. The range is down by around 15%. It also appears my car is only worth about 20% of what I paid for it. Hybrids make much more sense overall unless like me you love the acceleration of EVs.
@@rayshepherd2479 valid points! i wonder what repairs you've had. Can you elaborate?
@KaiPonte The latest was $2,500 to replace the air conditioning system, which also conditions the battery. Most of the other repairs were covered by the warranty. These included rear drive train failure, main screen replaced, and mcu update. Other out of warranty has been 12 volt battery and broken handle. On my ICE vehicles, I can easily replace the battery but not on the tesla. I did fix the handle for under $30, but it took me a couple of hours. Now I still like the car and infact, just purchased another model S because I like the performance and the new one has a much greater range. It was also less expensive after a large price reduction. The only thing I don't like on the new car is stockless turn signals.
@@rayshepherd2479 ouch!! I honestly am glad I haven't had these issues.
My Tesla insurance is the same as my Mercedes combustion engine car ... ie cost of insurance reflects the value of the car😊
Thank you for sharing your video. Everyone considering an EV should watch this video.
INSTALLED SOLAR PANELS on my home and charging station at the same time (So I don't have to pay to charge my EV). Solves most of the problem charging except when I'm traveling on a long trip. Which I almost never do. My office is only 14 miles from my home. So driving range is not a problem.
Well good for you... ROFLMAO!
That’s awesome, I’m planning on getting a solar roof in a few years to get the free charging as well. I was actually looking into getting the shingles that have the solar panels built in since I will need new shingles anyway and don’t want to put anymore weight on my roof.
How much did your solar panels cost?
@@UAIqbal83please post the price of your solar roof
@@jasoncrandall I haven't gotten them yet, I said I was planning on getting them in a few years. From what I'm being quoted though, it's looking like $20 - $30 thousand depending on the size of the system.
We just need to sell them all to California.
If you don't want to drive one...........don't buy one
The language here is a bit inflammatory. Lots of “extremely”. You could do the same sort of video on gasoline vehicles.
As if Cons aren’t buying Elon’s electric crap cars…TX is full of them…my bro-in-law is just one of them.
We don’t want them.
😂
Wait untill the day of power outages, will the charging stations still working?
I have a Mach E. Car has been great. Paid about $33k for it after federal rebate. Cost me $0.90 to drive 100 miles. I rarely use a public charger. Car needs zero maintenance. Had it two years and it's never seen a shop.
Range sucks in the winter however.
Our second car is a PHEV.
Do you rotate your own tires? That’s the only reason I go to a shop anymore - I change my own oil, but I don’t like rotating tires.
Do you have any evacuation plan so that when your car catches on fire while you're driving down the road you can get out of it?
Zero maintenance 😂
@@davek9378 no. Too lazy lol
@@rickhazen5227 Educate yourself. An EV is 27 times less likely to catch fire than an ICE.
That's why I decided to get a hybrid after my last gas only car. I wanted the higher mpg of hybrids but did'nt want to be tethered to a charger while gas stations are still readily available where I drive.
Hybrids the way to go right now. 👍
But you have 2 types of fuels which double the problems
@@b3arwithm3 No, the hybrid just consumes gasoline. The battery is charged by the ice engine and braking regeneration.
@@aceroadholder2185 I know that, but now you have a combustion engine and electric engine to worry about. There's a lot of tech in there which is proportional to the number of possible problems.
Toyota hybrids are the way to go! I have one and I never have to plug in which is awesome.
I plan to wait at least five years to see what happens with electric vehicles also, I really don’t think they are worth the extra premium in price that you pay both at the dealership and at your insurance company, as well as the maintenance costs which tend to be rather high
I think they're probably worth the extra cost if you home charge *and* do the miles needed to get that upfront cost back on not buying petrol. For us we can't justify it - our big car does less than 8k a year - we'd never see the savings back. I can see us getting a small local runabout EV though, but more than likely will wait for technology to improve.
Same here… time will tell if the is the future or not, and I suspect it isn’t the future.
As someone that has owned 4 EV’s, this video is extremely accurate! Except for the part that they can fix most of the EV issues anytime soon, or ever. EV’s came before ICE cars and they failed 100 years ago. History repeats itself.
Why would you buy them if you felt that way; comment just doesn't seem credible.
@@GDM22 Can you even imagine what it's like to have to answer dumb questions like yours?? If I had never owned an EV, you would be like, "oh, I am little girl and I want to know how you know anything about an EV if you never owned one??!!" Guess how I know about EVs and why this video is accurate, banana brain?
They have much improved and unlike the ICE are not a dead end technology...
@@allankoivu3263False. My $100k 2023 Model S with only 5k miles has a catastrophic drive unit failure and coasted to a stop on the side of the road at midnight and I had to wait hours for a tow and then 3 weeks for repairs. Did a search, and it’s very common failure. Never hear about a 5k mile brand new ICE failing like that and there’s tons more of them. So stop your lies. Do a google for ‘Tesla inverter failure -solar’
@@GDM22 OPs comments are not reliable no one repurchases a problem FOUR times.
With ICE or Hybrid. when the A/C quits working, fairly simple to find and repair it. How complex and expensive is it to find and repair a leak on an EV? I have no idea....
Maintenance cost is a big advantage, not a disadvantage. Old EVs like the Nissan Leaf and Tesla Model 3 have proven to cost as much as half the average car to maintain.
Please show the source of this information
According to Car Edge, the average cost of maintaining a Tesla Model 3 over a decade is $3,587 - this is cheaper compared to luxury sedans that have an average maintenance cost of $8,374.
I have had a new EV for just under a year and am very happy with it. But my circumstances are unique to me. I live in a warm country, Portugal. I have solar panels so my driving is mostly free. I got a 5 year service free deal. I have only been away from home once where I needed to use public charging. No queues in Portugal. If when I need a new battery pack in 10-12 years time technology will have changed so much, I suspect the cost of a new battery will be at least 50% less than today. Let's wait and see when I need new tyres.
We'll see if your home battery even last 7 years. Been there done that
@@tommyking626 not sure what you mean. home battery. If you have had a battery that only lasted 7 years, then it was made 7 years ago. Battery technology has change in the last 7 years.
Just rented a Nissan Leaf and so glad I did. The inconvenience of just the charging sealed the deal for me. At this point they're simply a status symbol because the REAL dollar and time costs associated with owning these just makes no sense. Not to mention I'm sure a lot of these materials are still predominantly made from non renewable resources so focusing on it not using gas has been a great distraction from all the other issues.
Please make a video on hybrids verses plug-ins.
Thank you, great information.
I got one but i only felt safer on my choice once you reviewed the Ioniq 6 vs Tesla and when Scott Kilmer reviewed the Ionig 5. All your points are valid but, like you said, going for a choice that had longer range gave me a lot of piece of mind. Thank you for your great work.
This program is strictly for dumbasses. Before any EV is sold to a customer, mandatory electric vehicle ownership classes must be taken. Especially battery charging and safety.
Piece ❌ 👉🏻peace
Longer range does not necessarily mean better. His advice is not very good there. A Standard range Tesla can be charged to 100% all oft he time, the long range Tesla is only meant to be charged to 80%, meaning that it loses 20% of its distance, which makes it basically the same distance as the standard range anyway. So unless you are using all of that range every single time you drive it, its completely pointless going for the long range, not to mention the standard range is a battery quality battery. This guy is spreading propaganda bs and exaggerating the truth.
@@Channel-iu6deI want the AWD which I think is a good reason to get the long range.
But I though you wanted... *EV* the future
hmm? Havent had enough of what happends to iphones, or charging battery degradation?
*Or* *did* *you* *seriously* *it* *wouldnt* *happened* *to* *EV* AHAHAHAHAA
We've had our Chevy Bolt for almost a year. For a commuter car it's fantastic. With tax rebates we got is brand new for around $25000. We save $200 a month in gas.
Lmao. What a fool
However, it's a Chevy and should be in a junkyard
Did you not watch the video?
If you think you saved money..did you figure the cost of the car..?
@@bill7956he told you the cost of the car, $25,000.
Here in the UK, there are additional problems which may be true in other coultries. Living in London, many people live in houses without driveways or garages. Certainly in my area there is no on street chargers which means that you have to rely on petrol stations which may or may not have working chargers. If you are lucky enough to find one you always have to wait in line to use them! It is also getting more and more difficult to get insurance. Many insurance companies will not insure EVs at all and as you say, for those that do,the permiums are sky high. I personally believe that befor EVs become affordable to the masses, a new technology will come along. EVs will go the same way as Betamax! It should also be noted that Governments around the world are deluded into thinking they can 'Ban' fossil fueled vehicles in the next few years. Statistics have proven that for the UK alone, there is not enough lithium, cobalt and nickel avialable in the world to provide that number of batteries. Currently there are only 4 or 5 countries in the world where Lithium is produced. Though there are other known deposits, they are usually found in deserts which is rather ironic considering mining requires vast quantities of water to extract it!
Good to know. Thanks for the info, and happy 2024!
Hey Shari. I was hoping you could make a video on negotiating a car lease in Canada. What are the capitalization cost, MSRP and how do we calculate the car lease to get minimum monthly payments
It looks as if MSRP is going the way of the Do Do bird. At least in the great USA.
Rocky times/ and all manufacturers are not going to make the cut/ and consumers just literally runout of cash.
This is a no go area in UK for pensioners. Not possible to lease (as most new car owners do ) over 70. Otherwise I would want to be an EV driver as well.
For those with multiple homes, there's the cost of a charging station in each home ($$$). Then there's an issue with no personal charging stations in in condo/rental apts.
Both are the case with me and l'll be damned before I regularly sit around, endlessly at a charging station.
Hybrid only, pour moi.
Don't forget your cottage up in the middle of nowhere Ontario.
It all sounded great when your neigbour bought into the propaganda.
If you have no personal charger where you live then owning an EV is hopeless right now. Public charging needs so much work almost everywhere.
@@carhelpcorner
Thanks for a very logical, fair minded and comprehensive report. 🎯
If you have two homes, you can probably plump for a few hundred to add a level 2 charger to each. (At our place installing the outlet and buying an EVSE was less than $600.) Now, for rental housing, it's still an issue for the present. But as EVs get more common, landlords will need to put in charging (just as they added WiFi and cable TV in years past).
@@jamesheartney9546 Not in condos, so far
I have learned a lot watching this video thank you petrol engine are best for me I suppose in 10 years time it will be a better type battery for cars etc.
I compared insurance prices for an EV versus hybrid. I realized that the high premium offsets the savings in gas. And the purchase cost of an EV is also higher. I bought a Camry hybrid three years ago for a good deal when gas was dirt cheap (Covid). With over 50 mpg's, I think I did the right thing
Insurance is cheaper with EV.....you must not have looked very hard for a good policy.
You did the right thing. I rented a hybrid Camry once…..fanatic car! Well done!
did you figure in the cost of the vehicle itself. along with depreciation and the fact that its going to be worth nothing in a few years
Just like the EV with an old battery....they did the right thing buying the Camry Hybrid....unlike when your parents had sex.@@briankerschke5306
@@briankerschke5306I agree, current EV's will have outdated technology within a few years because EV technology changes rapidly. Look at Nissan Leafs for example, cheap like anything. Hybrids aren't technological marvelous machines anymore as they used to be but their sales are going up and up, and they are reliable, unlike EV's. Hybrids are going to stay with us for time to come. There is NO WAY I am going to buy an EV at the moment. My Camry is going to stay in the family until it's dead, and that is going to take a long time...
These issues are exactly the reasons that Toyota is correct in its approach to electrification. For the foreseeable future hybrids and plug-in hybrids really are the sensible choice!
lol, true if they lower hybrid price to affordable lvl like $15k to $25k instead of $26k to $50k now.
How do they plan to stop EV at $25k to $35k (and cheaper with EV incentive) if they price their cars so expensively???
Hybrid only (happy owner for 4+ years). The plugins need charging, thus they are too close to the headaches of owning a BEV clunker. Much bigger batteries make the PHEV similar to BEV: expensive, polluting (the "eco"-Marxists claim on recyclability is phony), dangerous, impractical, imoral, controllable etc.
@@MrQuay03 true
Absolutely love the EV! Installed the Level II charging station myself in my garage; the entire unit was paid for by our local electric company. I didn't pay a dime to get it/install it! No more stops at $$$ gas stations! no more oil changes! no more exhaust fumes! Plus the purchase of the vehicle came with a two-year gift card for recharging at pubic stations.
The minor things that make an EV not completely practical will soon be alleviated. Technology today changes and improves drastically in less than 6 months. I used to be in the industry as a technician working with engineers. They were changing things so fast I never had time to sit around.
You just cant beat Honda and Toyota--Price, mileage, dependability etc
My problem is I live in an urban area with street parking. I cannot charge at home. Am I going to be spending an hour (or more) every week fast charging my cars? Isn’t fast charging bad them? Really not looking forward to this.
Many cities have lever 2 chargers at a very reasonable cost/ You park for the evening and are fully charged for 3-5 days of driving. As EVs become more this sort of charger will be easy to find.
Thanks for another informative video. Would these issues be the same for hybrids?
Good question 👍🏻
Generally no. I own a Lexus hybrid (the same Toyota technology), it gives me the best of both worlds. For me it is a very good improvement over the ICE performance, while saving on gas, brakes, rotors, starter, timing belt etc. with none of the BEV headaches.
From a person that formally owned a Hybrid, wait when you have a mechanical problem with it. It takes a specialist in hybrids to repair them and can get very, very expensive to repair over just plain ICE vehicles alone. Oh, I loved the gas mileage I received. I can tell you this, either have a good warranty as long as you have the car or be prepared for the high cost. You have 2 drive motor systems now compared to 1. When that warranty goes out, good luck!
@@darynm , really? How comes I didn't hear major complaints like yours in the "Toyota & Lexus Hybrids" group, but lots of satissfied owners (even those driving the same car for 15 years)? How comes that the hybrids' category is the most reliable segment according to Consumer Reports reliability last annual surveys? Looking at your unmentioned complaints and your poor grammar, they are either fake or you "formally owned" a Korean clunker, a disgrace for the hybrids category, ruled by Toyota/Lexus, seconded by Honda/Acura.
@codincoman9019 Good grammar? Take a look at your wild statement! Yes, this was regarding the cost of repairs to a hybrid that I had. I loved my hybrid until a major failure was going to cost 10K to repair. Fortunately, I had a mechanic that helped to keep it running and quickly got rid of it. The mechanic that repairs these things said this happens more than you think. You do what you want. I hardly care, but saying I'm some troll or something is bizzare! You do you man, I'm speaking truth!
First of all, this is an excellent video giving real-time facts, which I have gradually been discovering for myself, therefore I have confidence in all that is explained here. I still believe that if I am seriously thinking of buying an EV, it will be a hybrid. The main reason is the issue of the complexities and irritations of recharging at public chargers, also I hear that vandals are beginning to pull the charger plugs out just for kicks, while the driver is having a rest or meal
Just remember that when cars came out there were no roads.
@@alowatsakima8950 Specious and a false equivalence.
Had my Tesla five years. And will buy another. EV’s are the future unless you’re a paranoid conservative.
@@user-nz9pv1zx2d The average car buyer, whether conservative or a flaming liberal, is constrained by economics. Thus the flood of unsold and unsellable electric vehicles sitting in dealers lots, GM and Ford are taking a bloodbath on them and slowing production.
You my friend own what makes you happy, why can't you let others do what makes them happy?
The plug locks in when you charge, so it can't be pulled out.
Here's two that I just learned about recently. The batteries will not charge when they are cold. They have a battery heater built in to keep the battery warm, and yes they drain voltage and shorten your range. If you park overnight in 20 degree weather not on a charger, the battery will get too cold to charge. And it will then have to use the remaining battery power to heat the battery before it can begin charging - the charging stations don't provide power to heat the battery. You can get into a situation where the battery is too cold to charge and there's not enough juice left to heat it enough. Then it tow truck time.
The second thing is that if an EV is in a wreck that may have sent shock waves through the battery, they have to replace it. The impact may have jolted a connection loose inside the battery and there's no way to open the battery to find or fix it. Without fixing it, the risk of fire greatly increases. This is also why insurance is so high because repair costs will also be high. Imagine taking an $80K car for service and it costing $20K. That's 25% of the cost of the whole car!
some underground garages are refusing electric cars and we cant have a high current charger in an attached garage
Interesting video to me because it highlights the huge difference in the markets of the USA and Asia. Over here (Malaysia), there are chargers in every shopping mall and almost every gas station that has a Starbucks or similar. We do not experience any of the issues you mentioned except the pricing, but in an unexpected way. The government has banned the import of EVs under USD 10k for 3 more years to give time to the two local OEMs to ramp up their own production.
Tesla just opened a plant here and those cars are selling like there is no tomorrow. I went Byd and love the drive!
This program is strictly for dumbasses. Before any EV is sold to a customer, mandatory electric vehicle ownership classes must be taken. Especially battery charging and safety.
@@GNMi79 It is small indeed, but I do drive long distances. All you need is fast chargers along the way and have a coffee or any other 15-20 minute distraction each 350 KM. When I travel in China it is sometimes 7-8 hours with 2 stops (3 if we are with kids of course). Long distance is always relative to infrastructure, in ICE it is gas stations while in EV it's UFC stations.
True. Also the case in Australia, which is a huge country, and does not have quite as many charging options as you seem to have. However, I regularly drive interstate in my Tesla (often 1900 km each way) and have no trouble at all charging when I need to. It takes a little more thinking than an ICE car, but that is not too difficult when the computer plots it all out for you. The touring is SO much nicer in my Tesla than any ICE car I have ever driven. EVs have just started to take off in Oz, and the Model Y is now the biggest selling sedan car in the country (of any type).
There is no Tesla assembly plant in Malaysia.
@jonnieinbangkok no need for a plant here. They have an Approved Permit to import cars without taxes or tariffs. The Shanghai Plant can deliver in under a week or two. It takes longer than that to get a license plate in Malaysia. 😅
They do have their SE Asia HQ in Cyberjaya (Selangor) close to KL and close to Putrajaya where government sits.
Their investment cash is better aimed at the supercharger network.