First off love the channel.. anyway you could do a Carolina foundry boot with metatarsal guard review. I own a pair and love em. Also own a pair of doc marten works with metatarsal guard. And those not so much. Thanks in advance. Keep the video's coming
not singling you out, but TH-camrs need to do better with who they let sponsor their videos, manscaped's products are very poor quality and cost double the price of the equivalent product in another brand. it's all well and good that they give you money to make these videos but that money comes from your viewers. This should be of particular concern to your channel since you are reviewing consumer products for exactly that: their quality in relation to cost.
they're "dead" as in the hype for them is dead, which is an AWESOME thing, I grab myself a pair of OGs almost every year when they get to be 40% off, they look good and feel good!
@@Kashsneakers Apparently the comment right under the thread said that it is a known thing that they do bottom out, so which one is it people X( Personally, I have a pair of 380s I wear daily and they did start to feel like they were getting smashed in on the inside even while I loose a few pounds
Only trends die, I merely take from them what is timeless to me. I do really like the ideas trends can provide, though there's also just certain color/texture palettes etc. I like in all sorts of design, I'll take queue's from interior design trends etc. too, but with clothing trends you can capitalize on just how much of it is being produced and get full longevity out of it.
I think one thing to consider is that BOOST lasts SOOOOO much longer than standard EVA foams, so even though Zoom X and even adidas LightStrike foam is bouncier, they don't stay that bouncy for nearly as long as Boost does
Was about to ask about this. Most people (non-runners non-hypebeasts) expect their shoes to last up to 5 years. Some of my boost shoes are 5 yrs old and still feel great. Not as bouncy as new ones but the "bottom out" on them still feels soft and responsive after many years.
Simple answer is : no. It's one of the best cushioning there is. I'd buy a lifetime supplies of ultraboosts 19. Super comfortable and surprisingly durable.
Gotta try the 19s. I'm a diehard fan of the ultraboost ATR MID. Just bought another ultraboost 1.0 on sale. Most comfortable shoes I have ever worn is ultraboosts while having durability.
Boost actually has changed throughout the years, early boost was softer than the UB2022 which is more firm because the new shoes are more focused towards performance.
Yh but it’s not only the ultra boost that has boost like the UB has always been firm compared to like pure boost and others even in different ub from the same year there’s differences in firmness
ZoomX is much less durable than boost. I’ve had boost shoes for 3 years now and the midsole is still in amazing shape. ZoomX usually last 200-300 miles
AGREE! It seems like the Nike foam, being solid, would eventually compress and lose the bounce-back that it has new. Whereas, the Adidas Boost foam may stay more responsive over time, given the honeycomb structure he pointed out.
it would be no compairison at all. Boost lasts YEARS!!! My ultrboost 19 still fee new and have molded to my foot. I cant belive how durable they continue to be. Even the outsole looks brand new after MCUH use.
I'm starting to get really impressed by the iterative testing on the energy return from the foam. Cutting out little cross-sections to remove variables and standardize the process as much as possible shows you really are committed to trying to get meaningful results that can be compared and it's not just a cool-looking garage science test.
Boost and double stacked Zoom are my favorite cushioning technology of all time. The main advantage of Boost is how if performs in a wide range of temperatures and how quickly the cushion springs back; no dead spots. Great thing is seeing the evolution of all these foam tech.
I was working in running retail back in 2013. I remember when I first heard about Adidas Boost from the sales reps. It sounded absolutely incredible and I made sure to buy a pair when they first came out. Running on those shoes back in the day was nothing like I felt before. You literally felt like you could keep going forever.
I'm a heavy dude, around 105-110kg in weight, with bad joints and pain in my feet whenever I'm on my feet for over an hour. My first contact with Boost foam was via a pair of light Puma sneakers with their version of Boost foam and knit upper. I loved them because they were light and breathatble but most importantly the comfiest shoes I ever had. That Boost foam was soft and bouncy really made it easier for me to stay on my feet longer. Also, those Puma sneakers were really cheap, like 2-3 times cheaper than any Adidas sneakers with Boost foam, let alone the Ultraboost model. Which kinda tells you that Adidas is ripping people off on it, probably based on the hype and marketing that Boost got. From then on, I didn't want to wear any sneakers that didn't have Boost in them. My current ones are Adidas ZX 2K Boost and they're damn comfortable. Boost really makes walking easier for my fat ass... On the topic of those soft foams, Boost is considered a "boomer" one. There's a bunch of more recent and modern soft, responsive foams from multiple brands. Nike's ZoomX is one of them, New Balance has Fresh Foam X in their 1080 V12 model, Puma has their Nitro foam, I believe Asics, Mizuno and some others also have their versions of an ultrasoft and bouncy foams...Some general rule to them is that the softer a foam is, the lighter and less durable it is. ZoomX falls within that very soft and bouncy but less durable category and Boost is slightly less soft and bouncy but much more durable and retains its shape for longer without being squished or warped. I haven't tried those other foams for I can comfirm that the Boost is indeed durable...that knit upper on my 3 year old Pumas started to tear, the outsole is worn out but the Boost midsole is just as soft and bouncy as it was.
Might be a great investment for me. I have been having depression for over a year now, it made me physically inactive. I've been having trouble to getting used to using my feet and legs again, hell I even sprained my ankle twice back in Dec last year and this April. Idk what happened but my physical is just getting worse, my foot can't endure standing or walking intensively or my front calves would get cramped and feet starting to hurt. Saving to get any of the boost foam shoes see how like them
Puma got those so you probably got them like at Ross or something cus I remember seeing some too. Yeah 190+ is a ripoff but i also saw plenty of boosts almost since the beginning
If I'm not mistaken, the boost on various version of ultraboost is different. The classic ultraboost is much softer if compared to the ub 19/20 because both of them got increased density by around 20%? and for ub 21-22, they increase the density even more than the ub 19/20. Perhaps a lightstrike shoe gonna be a fair comparison for zoom x as it is more suitable for running..
As a runner i can confirm that from ub19 the foam has been less soft. From a runner perspective Is not a "bad" thing, but for the people who use them as sneaker the earlier version were comfier
That's true. Lightstrike pro is the Adidas' equivalent to Nike's zoom x. It is used, though, only on performance shoes, like Adios pro, or Takumi sen. Adidas doesn't have a casual - running shoe with lightstrike pro, like Nike's invincible run.
Since the shoes are being worn more for casual wear than athletic, should long term durability be considered and taken into account when comparing foam?
I have triple black ultra boost 3’s that I’ve had for over five years. No running just casual and light yard work. They’ve held up surprisingly well. The boost midsole is painted black and no paint is chipping off which is pretty surprising. The knit upper is more comfortable than my ultra boost 1.0s but the midsole is about the same. Gonna give the newer models a try if i see them on sale.
I'm a long distance runner and I LOVE boosts, they're my go to running shoes. I find them very comfortable and extremely versatile in every run I have thrown at them in various temperatures, seasons and weather and my Adidas Boost 20's have not let me down yet. I did a half marathon with a personal best time of 1:26:38 earlier this year in them, I highly recommend these shoes!
I ran about 3000kms in a pair back in 2017 and i still use the shoes for some walking and everyday light movement. Sure the outsole is destroyed but no tears,rips and still comfortable.
One thing that all the newer foams can’t beat is how the boost able to maintain its form and bounce after many miles where most evas and pebas foam would shrink and lose / have reduced cushioning. I think boost is still unbeatable at least in lifestyle - comfort category and running in general due to the longevity of it.
I think another important metric might be the amount of force that is transferred to the ground right beneath where the ball hits the foam. Maybe boost doesn’t return as much energy as zoomx but maybe it distributes the force of your heel hitting the ground better. It would also be pretty cool to see how high the ball bounces by itself to see how much energy is lost/conserved by these foams. These videos are awesome though, not many people are doing these direct tests like you are.
Since you're now delving into the world of cushion heavy running shoes, one interesting material from a well known running brand would be Asic's Flytefoam and Flytefoam blast and its plus version. I would suggest cutting in half Asics Novablast which is similarly constructed as the Nike Zoom Invinicible.
I have the 21 version (same thing) in black. I wear it for 12hr shifts at a distribution warehouse on the floor. It's literally been a year and two months now after MUCH abuse and it hasn't ripped and is still the most comfortable shoe I have. The outsole is finally starting to come off but I'll definitely be getting another pair.
The good thing with boost is it doesn't get flat through time. It holds its structure much better than other foams. I had the Nike react Flyknit 2 and they died down really fast. Boost doesn't bottom out that fast or maybe at all.
the oldest boost shoes i got is an OG ultraboost 1.0 from 2015, and a pureboost DPR as my go-to, beaten up running shoe since 2018. both of them still feels basically unchanged since new… so i’d agree, i have yet to see boost bottom out! the same cannot be said with my other sneakers, e.g. my 2018 nike air presto. it’s still bouncy where the air unit is, but now it is in a pretty awkward form where since the foam has flatten out, the side cage protrudes too much into my foot arch
Boost is far from perfect, but it's also one of the best midsole materials ever created. I love both ZoomX and Boost, but each fit a different category for me. ZoomX is softer, bouncier, and also far less stable than Boost. Boost is heavier, more dense, but also far more stable and will not bottom out like ZoomX will. If I needed a shoe that is good for constant motion, then I would pick a ZoomX shoe. On the other hand, if I needed a shoe that I had to wear and stand around all-day, then I wouldn't hesitate to grab an Ultraboost. The better comparison would be ZoomX and Lightstrike Pro. Both are used for high end running shoes and compete in the same space.
Boost isn't very good for standing around all day in, the boost starts to feel like puddy and make your calves and feet fatigue trying to keep you stable standing still. You need something a little bit more firm for standing around all day.
@@gilbertoflores7397 You just need a better boost model. The ultraboost is for running, but a 93/17 or something would let you stand easily. You can easily judge a shoe's purpose based on their shape.
@@Oyashio202 those are worse, do you have any of of the boost eqt? A majority of the boost isn't even felt, most of the boost protrudes past the foot and is purely for aesthetics purpose, it isn't any better than the a regular ultraboost in terms of comfort. People only hyped it up because it "looked" like it had more boost, but didn't have more underfoot where it mattered. And shape of shoe has nothing to do with purpose, most air max shoes are technically running shoes.
@@teng029 all day wear as in moving around and just being on your feet all day? Or standing in one spot doing some sort of factory/manufacturing type job? Huge difference in how you're going to feel at the end of the day.
Great video. I work for adidas and there is a nuance here. For the top of the line performance running we have different kinds of BOOST. What you reviewed here is the older baseline tech which is also used for casual wear. I wonder how the top of the line running BOOST would add up. Or some of the adizero line which uses a new foam all together. Anyway super interesting videos as always
Just wanted to comment that I happen to watch a vid from 2 years ago from y’all and you mentioned having to rush the vid out and the noise in the background and talking bout being excited about saving enough to move into a new shop and get newer equipment and tools to do better tests and to watch that vid and watch new ones now makes me happy for some reason. Keep up the great work😬
I think your revised test on the foam touches on something very important in helmet design. different foams are better at different stresses, it'd be interesting if we could find out what stress a shoes heel is under at both walking and running conditions for an average weight human. maybe we could get someone to run over a scale with memory in really hard shoes XD
Okay, that heel counter area for bigger people like myself is the best thing in the world because it feels like your foot is molded into the shoe. Almost, it really locks in your foot if you get the right size. And with other shoes like Converse, sometimes I legitimately feel my foot moving around on the inside of the shoe and I don't really care for that too much. I have never felt that with my pair of ultra boost 22s
There’s a new thing from Adidas called Jet Boost which is on the Pureboost 22. Maybe that’s the next thing? Looks like boost but the beads are much smaller. Edit: one thing that Zoom X is notorious for is lower durability. It doesn’t last as long as other competing foams. This was a few years ago. Not sure if they made improvements.
Having tried jetboost it's definitely more compressed and harder then the typical boost especially in the front portion. It kinda represents the lower budget boost shoes in where they tend to be more stiff, but we also need to remember there's still the regular pure boost that doesn't use jetboost which is like the ultra boost 21s more yes it's confusing the way you can tell between the two is the extra designs, they come in a black-green-white, white-grey, all black colorways, it also has a fake leather heel support.
I've had a pair of ultraboosts for over 4 years and they still are extremely comfortable, the prime knit upper is also extremely comfortable, I've never worn a shoe that is as soft as these, and they hold up really well.
I'd love to see a cross section of the new Adidas 4D FWD! They recently replaced my ultra boost as my #1 daily sneaker, and would be cool to see how it compares!
When are you going to do an asics shoe? They should be very interesting for a video, since they use a combination of gel and foam. Loving the vids btw keep it up
I have Boost and ZoomX shoes so this vid was particularly interesting for me. Because I've been watching some of the other vids as well it was making me think this info about what's inside shoes is just available now. I tried looking up exactly what is inside the Novablast 3 and it was not satisfying like these vids. I'd like it if you did one of those if you were so inclined. PS if one likes soft under foot feel I think the Invincibles are mind blowing.
I'm wearing my old Ultraboost 4.0s right now and while the rubber outsole is wearing out, the Boost is still holding up quite well and is still pretty comfy.
Would you please test: 1. Addidas' most expensive foam, the Addidas Lightstrike Pro foam, in its most expensive running shoe - the Addidas Adizero Adios Pro 3. 2. Asics' most expensive foam, the Asics FF Blast Turbo foam, in its most expensive running shoe - the Asics Metaspeed Sky Plus. 3. New Balance's most expensive foam, the New Balance Fuel Cell foam, in its most expensive training shoe - the New Balance Fuel Cell Super Comp Trainer. It's really interesting to know if their technology truly justifes the extremely expensive price tag.
I think Puma also has a new and extremely expensive foam in their newest flagship racer - the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 2. I felt that it is the most overrated foam amongst all the luxurious super shoes.
Got a pair of Adidas Ultraboost 4.0 DNA's in white. Most comfortable shoe I have ever worn by far. So stylish and versatile too. No other shoe atm has that great look without making you look like a clown
I think I read somewhere that adidas can put different densities of boost pellets in different location of the same sole. Making it bouncier in some areas and stiffer in others. Maybe bouncy under the heal and a bit stiffer in the arch.
It's probably true. Some of their sneakers with Boost foam were known to be more or less bouncy or soft as some of the other ones (the thinckness of the midsole and the price grade counts too). For example, when I was looking into my last Boost shoe purchase, people were commenting that the Boost outsole in Adidas model that I currently wear is softer than other model from the same series.
It would be really interesting to see the different between the ultra boost and the newer jet boost which uses smaller beads. Also, adidas has been known to use different densities of just ultraboost alone. So that’s also something to look into. The older ultra boosts are much softer than the 21 and 22. Might be just the engineering of shoe?
One of the original claims of boost is that its cusion/spring/etc. last considerably longer than EVA. EVA compresses for only so long before it can no longer compress anymore. Been wearing boost for over 2 years now and they feel like they did on day one. That being said, the bottoms of my feet do feel sore after 5+ hours of walking. So its nice to know the foams lasts longer than EVA which lasted maybe 6 months for me, however, I still want something both durable and comfortable. Have you considered testing durability (i.e. how long or how many steps the foam lasts for)?
Great video! I have a pair of the Invincible run ZoomX and I bought 2 pairs of the Ultraboost 22, (blue and triple black). To me my Ultraboosts are in that Goldilocks zone. It is both cushy and firm where it needs to be, and has another factor (fashion), with the 30+ color way options and the sleek foot print profile that I think gives it such appeal. If you are just looking at softness underfoot, sure you’ll find softer, (ZoomX), which is consistent with the steel ball resilience test. The test showed a cross section of ZoomX had more resilience than the same cross section of Ultraboost, but come on Ultraboost is no slouch in this area. I love the feel under foot. Looking at where the Ultraboost foam is concentrated you’ll see the heal has more foam thickness than the forefoot area. If you are a heal striker this is right where it needs to be as it absorbs that destructive impact that wears on your bones and joints where your foot hits the ground over time. Still, it’s able to give great pushback and firmness attributable to the foam thinning in the forefoot and toe, and that firm LEP plate. This allows you to better “feel” the ground and doesn’t absorb as much of the force one applies when pushing off to take the next stride. Taking nothing away from my ZoomX invincible runs, (because they are “hella” comfortable), you’ll notice a more consistent foam stack through the length, which makes it wonderful at absorbing impact, but also absorbs a lot of the force the foot applies when pushing off. It can feel like moving around in sand. Also, Ultraboost 22 doesn’t feel quite so clunky underfoot like the ZoomX invincible run, with the very sleek foot print it offers. I’m not one to sacrifice form over function but the ZoomX invincible runs aren’t the sleekest looking and come in some rather crazy colors that might clash with your outfit!( this doesn’t bother me though because the shoe feels so wonderful!)
Im a 6'4 200 lb skateboarder and UB19, UB 20s and Yeezy 350s are all i wear when im not skating, most comfortable shoes ever, ive had knee surgery on my left knee and also broke the same leg , was in a full leg cast for a few months, short leg cast then a boot , took a bit over a year to start skating again , didnt start wearing boost until 2017 when i was starting to walk again, life changing fr
Know you've heard it before but I would love to see if you could test the responsiveness/energy return of different foams over time. With boost in particular it is a known thing that it "bottoms out" or stops being as comfy and bouncy as it was the day you bought it.
its more of the user getting used to the sensation if you wear a dress shoe the whole day, then ran in some old boost runner in the evening... its just as bouncy as the day you bought em.
on older models of the ultraboost it was a continental rubber sole that lasts seemingly forever. plus since its a piece of rubber it wouldnt be impossible to replace it with a vibram pad when they eventually wear down. the boost itself also holds up really well to wear because mine are literally just kinda dirty but otherwise fine
I’m confused by the foam test. It was my understanding that you’d want the foam to absorb the energy rather than return it. So the higher the bounce means the more energy returned to the foot. FootPrint insoles does a bowling ball test comparing different other brands and it supports the theory of absorbing more energy for less return. Curious on your thoughts. I appreciate these videos. Would love to see more skate shoes :)
From my understanding, you want as much energy as possible to be returned for running. The returned energy then kickstarts the next step, rather than it dissipating and serving no purpose to the runner. More efficient use of expended energy would result in either increased speed or less fatigue.
@@GregWurth certainly hehe. Bouncing around can't be good for balance, nor for board feel. In any case, I could absolutely be wrong. I don't know physics, though climbing falls have taught me physics definitely knows me.
Boost FTW, it doesn’t flatten out and lose responsiveness like ZoomX. ZoomX is a little bouncier at first, but it doesn’t take long for them to start losing that. Boost is far more consistent over time, and it would be interesting to see a longevity comparison.
I think the beads' fused structure works like the honeycomb structure that is known to have a very high rigidity and pressure tolerance... but I still don't feel too attracted to neither Adidas' or Nike's current shoes using this kind technology. Thank you for the video.
Your honeycomb description of the beads are something i share with you in that boost midsoles don’t crease and get ugly and lose too much height, at least in the thinner boost shoes like hardens 1-3.
The shoe you're calling "ZoomX" is actually named "Invincible Run". ZoomX is the foam, Flyknit is the upper type. The thing around the heel is called "heal collar", the purpose it serves is to add stability, and also help keep your heel locked in so your foot doesn't slip around when you're running. The Invincible isn't Nike's "best running shoe" either, that would still be the Alphafly, or Vaporfly. The Invincible marketing suggests it is designed to prevent injury, it's not a fast racing shoe. I've got 375 miles on a pair of Invincibles, the foam has broke down in such a way that the shoes are painful to wear now.. Thought I'd add that in case someone wanted to know lifespan. Love your content, but I cringed a few times on those last few running shoe videos.
You should check some of the performance focused boosts as a comparison. Adidas treats the regular ultraboosts as a lifestyle shoe not a running shoe at this point. The pair of boosts I use for working out has 30% more foam than the normal ones.
Boost is still life to me. Still what I wear everyday and my feet never hurt. Still waiting on a adidas forum 84 low review and still waiting on that ROSE ANVIL DOPP KIT lol
That's weird. About hurting feet. When I wore running/sports shoes with boost. All is well. But the lifestyle ones are hit and miss. It's the weird shapes they try to mold the out sole in to.
the adidas foam that should be compared to the zoomx is the lightstrike pro, which is available in their adizero line up. It is a relatively new foam that came out shortly after zoomx
ZoomX was engineered for performance, as was Boost when it was first created. But just because other tech outperforms it, doesn't mean it's not comfortable.
The best thing about boost (that this test don't do) is longitivity. I use the same boost for 5 years and it barely show deflate or bottom down, not even showing crease like every single nike rubber cushion tech, i know because i use many nike shoes from Kobe, KD, PG or Jordan. And other thing this test don't do is the boost store the energy, it doesn't bounce right away but it store the energy and its ready for the next jump, not instantly but gradually build-up the energy.
The first boost shoe doesn't actually feature anything near the BASF foam version. The first cushion is more akin to "Bounce" technology that is comprised of plastic spring like frame enclosing a foam compound. Something that looks like the springblade or microbounce technology (which was the bounce technology before it became another foam compound).
You mean the pureboost? They were actually incredibly comfortable, they weren't tailored for any purpose, so they just went wild and made the best boost shoe possible. The earlier boost shoes were actually better and more comfortable than the modern ultraboost, because the new ones are geared towards better perfomance runners, so they were made more stable and less soft.
i love the older boost sneakers not a fan of the recent ultraboost line i think they need more boost under the toes and a wider toebox option, hence why the saucony triumphs are my favs
Zoom x soles wear out instantly tho. And fit very narrow. Depending on which ultraboost you buy, you can find them to fit if you have a slightly wide foot. And the continental rubber wears out fast too but not as fast as whatever nike uses
huaraches are easily still one of the most comfortable shoes out there, comparable to boosts and zoomx models, which is pretty fckn impressive, considering the model is over 20 years old.
I'd really like to see how Under Armour's HOVR foam compares to Boost and Zoom. It's also very squishy and bouncy, especially in shoes such as Phantom 2's.
I think it would be really interesting if you cut the Hare Jordan 1 (Air Jordan 1) in half from 2016. From what I can tell from mine the upper is completely different from the traditional AJ1 and much stiffer.
Have also both an SQLabs and Ergon bicycle saddle that uses this technology. SQLabs especially has the entire saddle built on boost foam with a couple of areas covered in protective tape.
Boost is certainly not dead. It’s merely a very good foam now. Saucony has made LEAPS in terms of running comfort, but ZOOMX is king. You run and your legs feel great. Recovery time in zoomx is incredible
I just wish they made the outsole on Ultra Boost a little longer lasting.. I burn through a pair in less than 6 months, and that’s from only doing 5-7km per day.
I love my boost. For running or days walking around a fair, museum, or school- it can’t be beat. Fantastic casual and running shoes. NOT for anything remotely off-roads though. I’ve almost tolled my ankle twice due to poor ankle support.
I think a good comparison would be between Boost and Nike React. I have a couple pairs of Ultraboosts (UB19, UB ClimaCool and UB ST) but I always have preferred my Nike React shoes for when I'm on my feet for 8hrs. I just wore my Nike React Infinity Flyknits yesterday to work and got in 17,539 steps and at the end of the day my feet felt fine.
So my first ever experience with Boost foam was the lightboost shoes. They were marketed as running shoes and I used them as such. They’re not great. My saucony trainers and Nike race shoes both perform better (triumph 20 and Vaporfly 3) at their intended function. The foam started to compress really quickly and it just doesn’t feel great underfoot. I now use them exclusively as a lifestyle shoe, which they are pretty good for; stable but squishy and light, pretty breathable, very wearable. In short, great as a more comfy higher-end lifestyle sneaker, but as far as their marketed use, not great.
They are the most comfortable shoes I've ever had. I have a suspicion about boost and maybe even primeknit...and that is it will eventually (if it isnt already) be a hit with older people as opposed to young ones. I remember back in the day there were cars called the Cube or xB that were very boxy and they tried *really* hard to make it cool and for young people...and it turned out on a level it was a bit of a hit with the elderly because it was comfortable and they were easily able to get in and out of it. There were articles written about it. I kind of can see this for boost as well. It came out an it was really cool and I think a lot of that has maybe died down a little bit as trends do and other shoes are hype now but I can still see people wearing them for a long time because they are just really comfortable.
I agree with your analysis, and like your comparison with the nissan cube. I have seen the very thing you’ve spoken about in international airports mainly Europe where the elderly were all wearing asics and now funnily enough On cloud running shoes which are very trendy and funny to see on an OAP.
There's one thing with boost that makes it a supreme midsole material. All of the solid one-piece midsoles compress under the pressure until they become either so deformed to make them anatomically just bad for you to wear them all day, everyday or just simply terribly hard and uncomfortable. And they tend to wear out. All of my Ultraboosts have durable Continental outsole and haven't deformed even after years and years of everyday wear. And that's why I love them so much and will never stop buying them. They're just the best for me.
Man i love what you are doing... this tech is what made me a sneaker fan back in the day.. we just didnt have anyone to break it all down to us. I can watch these vids all day!!!
I‘ve had the adidas Ultra Boost II. There is almost no lateral support. It is a cheaply produced sock glued on a sole. The Boost unit got just sqeeshy after maybe only three years even not worn much and stored only in places without light and heat.
Definitely super comfortable if you pair with a proper insole like a run pro you would be surprised how responsive they can be. All running shoes stock insoles should be changed out after a week of use.
Talking about Zoom X foam and Zoom Air units, the Nike Tempo Next% trainers is astonishingly comfortable albeit expensive and not durable. The thing is perfect for anyone that’s overweight, flat-footed, or with a bit of arthralgia. The con is that the bottom sole at the back is incredibly thin so eventually the Zoom X will wear out. Pros is that this shoe makes running feel fun and easy which is what people need when they’re looking to exercise more.
It would be interesting to cut in half and measure the rebound of an Adidas Torsion, because those have a plastic shank right at the middle. What other shoes i'd recommend would be any model of Adidas with Cloudfoam, Adidas HU because they are clearly a different compound than Cloudfoam and they are much softer, and finally the Boost's direct competitor Puma NRG which uses a similar fused bead foam. Edit: I personally used as running shoes Adidas Marathon10 for the longest time. They had a similar hard rubber shank as the ones in this video, but also the heel was independent from the rest of the sole. Then i switched to Torsion for a short period of time. And finally got a pair of ZX 2K Boost 2.0 and i never felt faster than that before. The speed increase, even for walking speed, was definitely noticeable. With those i can run around 20km/h without getting tired quickly. It's so unbelivable how much of an unfair advantage those give you. The fastest i ever ran was 31km/h with the Marathon10's. I have yet to tried a top speed run because the corona period kinda made me a little fat... A little almost 20kg more. :/
Hey Rose Anvil! Have you done any reviews for Crispi Boots? I've been looking though your videos and haven't seen one yet, if not, I'd love to see a pair of those ole' bois chopped up and get a look inside. The Nevada model specifically. I don't think I've seen a boot with such consistently positive reviews yet! Thanks dude preciatechya and what you do here, it's awesome!
Might be interesting to compare with some of the popular "Boost-Like" midsoles from Saucony / Asics that "serious runners" are choosing... PEBA/Pebax plated shoes the likes of the Endorphin Speed and Pro.
Havent worn too many boost but i wear my shoes at all times and i heard the reason i had sore feet with them once.. the second pair was because i heard you need to let them rest to get the boost back into optimal cushioning.. my theory is when boost is caged i think maybe it has better duration properties.. i havent tested that out but a theory.. the pair i got sore with was open boost and the first pair i had was more minimal with boost with other materials supporting the underfoot.
This video was very interesting. Could you do this test for other cuchioning technologies as well? I would really like to know how valid the following are: New balance fuel cell and freshfoam. 4d Adidas. Lightstrike by Adidas. PureGel and the Flytefoam Blast+ by Asics. Pwrrun by Saucony. Xetic by Puma.
I've owned several pair of foam midsoled shoes. I love that that are soft and squishy, my wife calls it feet hugs. My only problem is that the foam flattens out fairly quick compared to other tech in shoes. My Reebok Realflex lasted the longest I think. I wonder if the boost would last longer than a solid foam since it "contained bubbles".
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First off love the channel.. anyway you could do a Carolina foundry boot with metatarsal guard review. I own a pair and love em. Also own a pair of doc marten works with metatarsal guard. And those not so much. Thanks in advance. Keep the video's coming
Can you please do a video on Hoka Bondi 8
Boost ain't dead
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you should check asics novablast and nb fuecell rebel foam cause is upgrade version of this kind of midsole
I never understood why boost is "dead" now, their very comfortable and most of the shoes are a very good active wear/everyday shoes
they're "dead" as in the hype for them is dead, which is an AWESOME thing, I grab myself a pair of OGs almost every year when they get to be 40% off, they look good and feel good!
@@orangetweleve when do they get 40% off???!!!
The thing about boost compared to other foams is that it does not bottom out they last so long
@@Kashsneakers Apparently the comment right under the thread said that it is a known thing that they do bottom out, so which one is it people X( Personally, I have a pair of 380s I wear daily and they did start to feel like they were getting smashed in on the inside even while I loose a few pounds
Only trends die, I merely take from them what is timeless to me. I do really like the ideas trends can provide, though there's also just certain color/texture palettes etc. I like in all sorts of design, I'll take queue's from interior design trends etc. too, but with clothing trends you can capitalize on just how much of it is being produced and get full longevity out of it.
I think one thing to consider is that BOOST lasts SOOOOO much longer than standard EVA foams, so even though Zoom X and even adidas LightStrike foam is bouncier, they don't stay that bouncy for nearly as long as Boost does
Facts. My boost shoes still feel good after heavy use.
@@francisportugal5584 my boost shoes was still bouncy after 3 years of daily and only threw them out after the tops separated from the sole
i have a pair that is 8 years old and the sole is still good. the top has a few holes from when i was drunk.
It will outlast the sole and the upper 😎
Was about to ask about this. Most people (non-runners non-hypebeasts) expect their shoes to last up to 5 years. Some of my boost shoes are 5 yrs old and still feel great. Not as bouncy as new ones but the "bottom out" on them still feels soft and responsive after many years.
Simple answer is : no. It's one of the best cushioning there is. I'd buy a lifetime supplies of ultraboosts 19. Super comfortable and surprisingly durable.
It’s a great shoe for comfort. I don’t even take them off inside
AMEN on the 19s just bought the DNA 19.5 on sale last week, i cant wait to rock these again. 19s are POGGERS.
the 19 is amazing! still rocking mine and they barely have any wear with tons of use. Not a fan of the newer versions.
I def like the 19s much More than the 21 and 22. would love to Buy a Ton of 19s
Gotta try the 19s. I'm a diehard fan of the ultraboost ATR MID. Just bought another ultraboost 1.0 on sale. Most comfortable shoes I have ever worn is ultraboosts while having durability.
Boost actually has changed throughout the years, early boost was softer than the UB2022 which is more firm because the new shoes are more focused towards performance.
Truth! Between the UB 20 and UB 21, there was something seriously changed with the firmness of the foam.
from 2019 onwards it became firmer.
@@bobotmeister nice to know, no wonder the dirty ones have been more comfortable
Yh but it’s not only the ultra boost that has boost like the UB has always been firm compared to like pure boost and others even in different ub from the same year there’s differences in firmness
@@bobotmeister no not at all just in certain shoes it became firmer I have some 2022 boosts that are less firm then UB 2018 that are still in the box
I’d love to see a longevity study for zoomx vs boost. How long do they last before they lose responsiveness.
ZoomX is much less durable than boost. I’ve had boost shoes for 3 years now and the midsole is still in amazing shape. ZoomX usually last 200-300 miles
AGREE! It seems like the Nike foam, being solid, would eventually compress and lose the bounce-back that it has new. Whereas, the Adidas Boost foam may stay more responsive over time, given the honeycomb structure he pointed out.
Boost by far. Boost midsoles will usually outlasts the outsole and sometimes even the upper
it would be no compairison at all. Boost lasts YEARS!!! My ultrboost 19 still fee new and have molded to my foot. I cant belive how durable they continue to be. Even the outsole looks brand new after MCUH use.
zoomx wasn;t made to last long 😉
I'm starting to get really impressed by the iterative testing on the energy return from the foam. Cutting out little cross-sections to remove variables and standardize the process as much as possible shows you really are committed to trying to get meaningful results that can be compared and it's not just a cool-looking garage science test.
It’s science
Well said, these sorts of things should be publicly appreciated so he's motivated to do more. I found that to be fascinating too.
Boost and double stacked Zoom are my favorite cushioning technology of all time. The main advantage of Boost is how if performs in a wide range of temperatures and how quickly the cushion springs back; no dead spots. Great thing is seeing the evolution of all these foam tech.
I was working in running retail back in 2013. I remember when I first heard about Adidas Boost from the sales reps. It sounded absolutely incredible and I made sure to buy a pair when they first came out. Running on those shoes back in the day was nothing like I felt before. You literally felt like you could keep going forever.
I'm a heavy dude, around 105-110kg in weight, with bad joints and pain in my feet whenever I'm on my feet for over an hour. My first contact with Boost foam was via a pair of light Puma sneakers with their version of Boost foam and knit upper. I loved them because they were light and breathatble but most importantly the comfiest shoes I ever had. That Boost foam was soft and bouncy really made it easier for me to stay on my feet longer. Also, those Puma sneakers were really cheap, like 2-3 times cheaper than any Adidas sneakers with Boost foam, let alone the Ultraboost model. Which kinda tells you that Adidas is ripping people off on it, probably based on the hype and marketing that Boost got.
From then on, I didn't want to wear any sneakers that didn't have Boost in them. My current ones are Adidas ZX 2K Boost and they're damn comfortable. Boost really makes walking easier for my fat ass...
On the topic of those soft foams, Boost is considered a "boomer" one. There's a bunch of more recent and modern soft, responsive foams from multiple brands. Nike's ZoomX is one of them, New Balance has Fresh Foam X in their 1080 V12 model, Puma has their Nitro foam, I believe Asics, Mizuno and some others also have their versions of an ultrasoft and bouncy foams...Some general rule to them is that the softer a foam is, the lighter and less durable it is. ZoomX falls within that very soft and bouncy but less durable category and Boost is slightly less soft and bouncy but much more durable and retains its shape for longer without being squished or warped. I haven't tried those other foams for I can comfirm that the Boost is indeed durable...that knit upper on my 3 year old Pumas started to tear, the outsole is worn out but the Boost midsole is just as soft and bouncy as it was.
Nice writeup and interesting to hear your opinion, but in the video he shows that boost foam is softer than the Nike zoom foam
@@jackster99999 you need to rewatch the video...
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Might be a great investment for me. I have been having depression for over a year now, it made me physically inactive. I've been having trouble to getting used to using my feet and legs again, hell I even sprained my ankle twice back in Dec last year and this April. Idk what happened but my physical is just getting worse, my foot can't endure standing or walking intensively or my front calves would get cramped and feet starting to hurt. Saving to get any of the boost foam shoes see how like them
Puma got those so you probably got them like at Ross or something cus I remember seeing some too. Yeah 190+ is a ripoff but i also saw plenty of boosts almost since the beginning
If I'm not mistaken, the boost on various version of ultraboost is different. The classic ultraboost is much softer if compared to the ub 19/20 because both of them got increased density by around 20%? and for ub 21-22, they increase the density even more than the ub 19/20.
Perhaps a lightstrike shoe gonna be a fair comparison for zoom x as it is more suitable for running..
As a runner i can confirm that from ub19 the foam has been less soft. From a runner perspective Is not a "bad" thing, but for the people who use them as sneaker the earlier version were comfier
I think there's even a difference in lifestyle and running boost.
That's true. Lightstrike pro is the Adidas' equivalent to Nike's zoom x. It is used, though, only on performance shoes, like Adios pro, or Takumi sen. Adidas doesn't have a casual - running shoe with lightstrike pro, like Nike's invincible run.
Since the shoes are being worn more for casual wear than athletic, should long term durability be considered and taken into account when comparing foam?
I have triple black ultra boost 3’s that I’ve had for over five years. No running just casual and light yard work. They’ve held up surprisingly well. The boost midsole is painted black and no paint is chipping off which is pretty surprising. The knit upper is more comfortable than my ultra boost 1.0s but the midsole is about the same. Gonna give the newer models a try if i see them on sale.
I love seeing the evolution of your tests methods, it's getting real interesting! Thanks
I'm a long distance runner and I LOVE boosts, they're my go to running shoes. I find them very comfortable and extremely versatile in every run I have thrown at them in various temperatures, seasons and weather and my Adidas Boost 20's have not let me down yet. I did a half marathon with a personal best time of 1:26:38 earlier this year in them, I highly recommend these shoes!
I ran about 3000kms in a pair back in 2017 and i still use the shoes for some walking and everyday light movement. Sure the outsole is destroyed but no tears,rips and still comfortable.
@@Psysso They're really good aren't they? My old ones finally ripped on me but that was after a good 6 months of punishment
One thing that all the newer foams can’t beat is how the boost able to maintain its form and bounce after many miles where most evas and pebas foam would shrink and lose / have reduced cushioning. I think boost is still unbeatable at least in lifestyle - comfort category and running in general due to the longevity of it.
Some say 1 year and they flat out
I think another important metric might be the amount of force that is transferred to the ground right beneath where the ball hits the foam. Maybe boost doesn’t return as much energy as zoomx but maybe it distributes the force of your heel hitting the ground better. It would also be pretty cool to see how high the ball bounces by itself to see how much energy is lost/conserved by these foams. These videos are awesome though, not many people are doing these direct tests like you are.
Since you're now delving into the world of cushion heavy running shoes, one interesting material from a well known running brand would be Asic's Flytefoam and Flytefoam blast and its plus version. I would suggest cutting in half Asics Novablast which is similarly constructed as the Nike Zoom Invinicible.
I have the 21 version (same thing) in black. I wear it for 12hr shifts at a distribution warehouse on the floor. It's literally been a year and two months now after MUCH abuse and it hasn't ripped and is still the most comfortable shoe I have. The outsole is finally starting to come off but I'll definitely be getting another pair.
The good thing with boost is it doesn't get flat through time. It holds its structure much better than other foams. I had the Nike react Flyknit 2 and they died down really fast. Boost doesn't bottom out that fast or maybe at all.
the oldest boost shoes i got is an OG ultraboost 1.0 from 2015, and a pureboost DPR as my go-to, beaten up running shoe since 2018. both of them still feels basically unchanged since new… so i’d agree, i have yet to see boost bottom out! the same cannot be said with my other sneakers, e.g. my 2018 nike air presto. it’s still bouncy where the air unit is, but now it is in a pretty awkward form where since the foam has flatten out, the side cage protrudes too much into my foot arch
Boost is far from perfect, but it's also one of the best midsole materials ever created. I love both ZoomX and Boost, but each fit a different category for me. ZoomX is softer, bouncier, and also far less stable than Boost. Boost is heavier, more dense, but also far more stable and will not bottom out like ZoomX will. If I needed a shoe that is good for constant motion, then I would pick a ZoomX shoe. On the other hand, if I needed a shoe that I had to wear and stand around all-day, then I wouldn't hesitate to grab an Ultraboost. The better comparison would be ZoomX and Lightstrike Pro. Both are used for high end running shoes and compete in the same space.
Boost isn't very good for standing around all day in, the boost starts to feel like puddy and make your calves and feet fatigue trying to keep you stable standing still. You need something a little bit more firm for standing around all day.
@@gilbertoflores7397 You just need a better boost model. The ultraboost is for running, but a 93/17 or something would let you stand easily. You can easily judge a shoe's purpose based on their shape.
@@gilbertoflores7397 The Ultraboost 21 and 22 are outstanding for all-day wear, as are the Solar Glide 5s.
@@Oyashio202 those are worse, do you have any of of the boost eqt? A majority of the boost isn't even felt, most of the boost protrudes past the foot and is purely for aesthetics purpose, it isn't any better than the a regular ultraboost in terms of comfort. People only hyped it up because it "looked" like it had more boost, but didn't have more underfoot where it mattered. And shape of shoe has nothing to do with purpose, most air max shoes are technically running shoes.
@@teng029 all day wear as in moving around and just being on your feet all day? Or standing in one spot doing some sort of factory/manufacturing type job? Huge difference in how you're going to feel at the end of the day.
Great video. I work for adidas and there is a nuance here. For the top of the line performance running we have different kinds of BOOST. What you reviewed here is the older baseline tech which is also used for casual wear. I wonder how the top of the line running BOOST would add up. Or some of the adizero line which uses a new foam all together. Anyway super interesting videos as always
Arent to ultraboosts fully designed for running??
And dna for casual?
Just wanted to comment that I happen to watch a vid from 2 years ago from y’all and you mentioned having to rush the vid out and the noise in the background and talking bout being excited about saving enough to move into a new shop and get newer equipment and tools to do better tests and to watch that vid and watch new ones now makes me happy for some reason. Keep up the great work😬
I think your revised test on the foam touches on something very important in helmet design. different foams are better at different stresses, it'd be interesting if we could find out what stress a shoes heel is under at both walking and running conditions for an average weight human. maybe we could get someone to run over a scale with memory in really hard shoes XD
Okay, that heel counter area for bigger people like myself is the best thing in the world because it feels like your foot is molded into the shoe. Almost, it really locks in your foot if you get the right size. And with other shoes like Converse, sometimes I legitimately feel my foot moving around on the inside of the shoe and I don't really care for that too much. I have never felt that with my pair of ultra boost 22s
There’s a new thing from Adidas called Jet Boost which is on the Pureboost 22. Maybe that’s the next thing? Looks like boost but the beads are much smaller.
Edit: one thing that Zoom X is notorious for is lower durability. It doesn’t last as long as other competing foams. This was a few years ago. Not sure if they made improvements.
Having tried jetboost it's definitely more compressed and harder then the typical boost especially in the front portion. It kinda represents the lower budget boost shoes in where they tend to be more stiff, but we also need to remember there's still the regular pure boost that doesn't use jetboost which is like the ultra boost 21s more
yes it's confusing the way you can tell between the two is the extra designs, they come in a black-green-white, white-grey, all black colorways, it also has a fake leather heel support.
I've had a pair of ultraboosts for over 4 years and they still are extremely comfortable, the prime knit upper is also extremely comfortable, I've never worn a shoe that is as soft as these, and they hold up really well.
As a boost head i will say boost is not a bust. One of the best cushion materials in my opinion. Maybe not for running but for casual wear.
i love boost always have and i’m so glad they’re not hyped up anymore because i get them under retail at times
I'd love to see a cross section of the new Adidas 4D FWD! They recently replaced my ultra boost as my #1 daily sneaker, and would be cool to see how it compares!
Mizuno Wave Sky Neo's are the comfiest and most supportive runners I've ever owned and are criminally underrated, the foam is amazing.
Love how much time you guys put into coming up with better tests
When are you going to do an asics shoe? They should be very interesting for a video, since they use a combination of gel and foam. Loving the vids btw keep it up
I have Boost and ZoomX shoes so this vid was particularly interesting for me. Because I've been watching some of the other vids as well it was making me think this info about what's inside shoes is just available now. I tried looking up exactly what is inside the Novablast 3 and it was not satisfying like these vids. I'd like it if you did one of those if you were so inclined. PS if one likes soft under foot feel I think the Invincibles are mind blowing.
Invincible is Too thick...horrible shape
I'm wearing my old Ultraboost 4.0s right now and while the rubber outsole is wearing out, the Boost is still holding up quite well and is still pretty comfy.
Would you please test:
1. Addidas' most expensive foam, the Addidas Lightstrike Pro foam, in its most expensive running shoe - the Addidas Adizero Adios Pro 3.
2. Asics' most expensive foam, the Asics FF Blast Turbo foam, in its most expensive running shoe - the Asics Metaspeed Sky Plus.
3. New Balance's most expensive foam, the New Balance Fuel Cell foam, in its most expensive training shoe - the New Balance Fuel Cell Super Comp Trainer.
It's really interesting to know if their technology truly justifes the extremely expensive price tag.
I think Puma also has a new and extremely expensive foam in their newest flagship racer - the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 2. I felt that it is the most overrated foam amongst all the luxurious super shoes.
Got a pair of Adidas Ultraboost 4.0 DNA's in white.
Most comfortable shoe I have ever worn by far. So stylish and versatile too.
No other shoe atm has that great look without making you look like a clown
I think I read somewhere that adidas can put different densities of boost pellets in different location of the same sole. Making it bouncier in some areas and stiffer in others. Maybe bouncy under the heal and a bit stiffer in the arch.
It's probably true. Some of their sneakers with Boost foam were known to be more or less bouncy or soft as some of the other ones (the thinckness of the midsole and the price grade counts too). For example, when I was looking into my last Boost shoe purchase, people were commenting that the Boost outsole in Adidas model that I currently wear is softer than other model from the same series.
Adidas Barricade Boost are the best tennis shoes I´ve worn. Heel support and comfort is unrivaled.
It would be really interesting to see the different between the ultra boost and the newer jet boost which uses smaller beads. Also, adidas has been known to use different densities of just ultraboost alone. So that’s also something to look into. The older ultra boosts are much softer than the 21 and 22. Might be just the engineering of shoe?
One of the original claims of boost is that its cusion/spring/etc. last considerably longer than EVA. EVA compresses for only so long before it can no longer compress anymore. Been wearing boost for over 2 years now and they feel like they did on day one. That being said, the bottoms of my feet do feel sore after 5+ hours of walking. So its nice to know the foams lasts longer than EVA which lasted maybe 6 months for me, however, I still want something both durable and comfortable. Have you considered testing durability (i.e. how long or how many steps the foam lasts for)?
Great video! I have a pair of the Invincible run ZoomX and I bought 2 pairs of the Ultraboost 22, (blue and triple black). To me my Ultraboosts are in that Goldilocks zone. It is both cushy and firm where it needs to be, and has another factor (fashion), with the 30+ color way options and the sleek foot print profile that I think gives it such appeal.
If you are just looking at softness underfoot, sure you’ll find softer, (ZoomX), which is consistent with the steel ball resilience test. The test showed a cross section of ZoomX had more resilience than the same cross section of Ultraboost, but come on Ultraboost is no slouch in this area. I love the feel under foot. Looking at where the Ultraboost foam is concentrated you’ll see the heal has more foam thickness than the forefoot area. If you are a heal striker this is right where it needs to be as it absorbs that destructive impact that wears on your bones and joints where your foot hits the ground over time.
Still, it’s able to give great pushback and firmness attributable to the foam thinning in the forefoot and toe, and that firm LEP plate. This allows you to better “feel” the ground and doesn’t absorb as much of the force one applies when pushing off to take the next stride. Taking nothing away from my ZoomX invincible runs, (because they are “hella” comfortable), you’ll notice a more consistent foam stack through the length, which makes it wonderful at absorbing impact, but also absorbs a lot of the force the foot applies when pushing off. It can feel like moving around in sand.
Also, Ultraboost 22 doesn’t feel quite so clunky underfoot like the ZoomX invincible run, with the very sleek foot print it offers. I’m not one to sacrifice form over function but the ZoomX invincible runs aren’t the sleekest looking and come in some rather crazy colors that might clash with your outfit!( this doesn’t bother me though because the shoe feels so wonderful!)
Nike React was made as an answer to Boost if I remember correctly. A look at the performance on that foam would probably be a good watch
I have 6 boost shoe. I find ub19 is the most comforts. Ub22 is the least comfortable and hardest foam for me.
Im a 6'4 200 lb skateboarder and UB19, UB 20s and Yeezy 350s are all i wear when im not skating, most comfortable shoes ever, ive had knee surgery on my left knee and also broke the same leg , was in a full leg cast for a few months, short leg cast then a boot , took a bit over a year to start skating again , didnt start wearing boost until 2017 when i was starting to walk again, life changing fr
Know you've heard it before but I would love to see if you could test the responsiveness/energy return of different foams over time. With boost in particular it is a known thing that it "bottoms out" or stops being as comfy and bouncy as it was the day you bought it.
its more of the user getting used to the sensation
if you wear a dress shoe the whole day, then ran in some old boost runner in the evening... its just as bouncy as the day you bought em.
on older models of the ultraboost it was a continental rubber sole that lasts seemingly forever. plus since its a piece of rubber it wouldnt be impossible to replace it with a vibram pad when they eventually wear down. the boost itself also holds up really well to wear because mine are literally just kinda dirty but otherwise fine
I’m confused by the foam test. It was my understanding that you’d want the foam to absorb the energy rather than return it. So the higher the bounce means the more energy returned to the foot. FootPrint insoles does a bowling ball test comparing different other brands and it supports the theory of absorbing more energy for less return. Curious on your thoughts. I appreciate these videos. Would love to see more skate shoes :)
From my understanding, you want as much energy as possible to be returned for running. The returned energy then kickstarts the next step, rather than it dissipating and serving no purpose to the runner. More efficient use of expended energy would result in either increased speed or less fatigue.
That makes sense. It has a completely different purpose than it does for skateboarding.
@@GregWurth certainly hehe. Bouncing around can't be good for balance, nor for board feel.
In any case, I could absolutely be wrong. I don't know physics, though climbing falls have taught me physics definitely knows me.
Boost FTW, it doesn’t flatten out and lose responsiveness like ZoomX. ZoomX is a little bouncier at first, but it doesn’t take long for them to start losing that. Boost is far more consistent over time, and it would be interesting to see a longevity comparison.
BASF to me will always mean the cassette tapes l used to tape songs off the radio.....
Ahh.. so you know the connection between a cassete tape and a pencil..
I would love to see a video on the brooks glycerin 20! It would be a really good test in comparison to all of these running shoes!
I think the beads' fused structure works like the honeycomb structure that is known to have a very high rigidity and pressure tolerance... but I still don't feel too attracted to neither Adidas' or Nike's current shoes using this kind technology. Thank you for the video.
Your honeycomb description of the beads are something i share with you in that boost midsoles don’t crease and get ugly and lose too much height, at least in the thinner boost shoes like hardens 1-3.
The shoe you're calling "ZoomX" is actually named "Invincible Run".
ZoomX is the foam, Flyknit is the upper type.
The thing around the heel is called "heal collar", the purpose it serves is to add stability, and also help keep your heel locked in so your foot doesn't slip around when you're running.
The Invincible isn't Nike's "best running shoe" either, that would still be the Alphafly, or Vaporfly. The Invincible marketing suggests it is designed to prevent injury, it's not a fast racing shoe.
I've got 375 miles on a pair of Invincibles, the foam has broke down in such a way that the shoes are painful to wear now.. Thought I'd add that in case someone wanted to know lifespan.
Love your content, but I cringed a few times on those last few running shoe videos.
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You should check some of the performance focused boosts as a comparison. Adidas treats the regular ultraboosts as a lifestyle shoe not a running shoe at this point. The pair of boosts I use for working out has 30% more foam than the normal ones.
Boost is still life to me. Still what I wear everyday and my feet never hurt. Still waiting on a adidas forum 84 low review and still waiting on that ROSE ANVIL DOPP KIT lol
That's weird. About hurting feet. When I wore running/sports shoes with boost. All is well. But the lifestyle ones are hit and miss. It's the weird shapes they try to mold the out sole in to.
the adidas foam that should be compared to the zoomx is the lightstrike pro, which is available in their adizero line up. It is a relatively new foam that came out shortly after zoomx
ZoomX was engineered for performance, as was Boost when it was first created. But just because other tech outperforms it, doesn't mean it's not comfortable.
The best thing about boost (that this test don't do) is longitivity. I use the same boost for 5 years and it barely show deflate or bottom down, not even showing crease like every single nike rubber cushion tech, i know because i use many nike shoes from Kobe, KD, PG or Jordan. And other thing this test don't do is the boost store the energy, it doesn't bounce right away but it store the energy and its ready for the next jump, not instantly but gradually build-up the energy.
The first boost shoe doesn't actually feature anything near the BASF foam version. The first cushion is more akin to "Bounce" technology that is comprised of plastic spring like frame enclosing a foam compound. Something that looks like the springblade or microbounce technology (which was the bounce technology before it became another foam compound).
You mean the pureboost? They were actually incredibly comfortable, they weren't tailored for any purpose, so they just went wild and made the best boost shoe possible. The earlier boost shoes were actually better and more comfortable than the modern ultraboost, because the new ones are geared towards better perfomance runners, so they were made more stable and less soft.
Id like you to review the Bad Bunny response shoes. They’re extremely comfy and light. I’m interested to see what you could get out of it
Loved the testing in this episode! Really cool to see!
I've been interested in a breakdown of the Skechers Hyper Burst foam. It looks incredibly comfy, but also not very durable.
i love the older boost sneakers not a fan of the recent ultraboost line i think they need more boost under the toes and a wider toebox option, hence why the saucony triumphs are my favs
Zoom x soles wear out instantly tho. And fit very narrow. Depending on which ultraboost you buy, you can find them to fit if you have a slightly wide foot. And the continental rubber wears out fast too but not as fast as whatever nike uses
I’ve always been quite impressed with the cushion of the soles of huaraches and the NB 2002-r
prestos are good too
huaraches are easily still one of the most comfortable shoes out there, comparable to boosts and zoomx models, which is pretty fckn impressive, considering the model is over 20 years old.
I'd really like to see how Under Armour's HOVR foam compares to Boost and Zoom. It's also very squishy and bouncy, especially in shoes such as Phantom 2's.
I work in boost, I lounge in boost and I run in boost. There is no more versatile shoe, none.
I think it would be really interesting if you cut the Hare Jordan 1 (Air Jordan 1) in half from 2016. From what I can tell from mine the upper is completely different from the traditional AJ1 and much stiffer.
Have also both an SQLabs and Ergon bicycle saddle that uses this technology.
SQLabs especially has the entire saddle built on boost foam with a couple of areas covered in protective tape.
Boost is certainly not dead. It’s merely a very good foam now. Saucony has made LEAPS in terms of running comfort, but ZOOMX is king. You run and your legs feel great. Recovery time in zoomx is incredible
I wonder if boost foam would be good as a midsole material for boots as a substitute for cork.
I just wish they made the outsole on Ultra Boost a little longer lasting.. I burn through a pair in less than 6 months, and that’s from only doing 5-7km per day.
Wasn't expecting to get into weft knit vs. warp knit in the Adidas sneakers video but I'm all about it
U post this literally a day after I order a used pair of Ultraboosts to wear at work lol
I love my boost. For running or days walking around a fair, museum, or school- it can’t be beat. Fantastic casual and running shoes. NOT for anything remotely off-roads though. I’ve almost tolled my ankle twice due to poor ankle support.
I think a good comparison would be between Boost and Nike React. I have a couple pairs of Ultraboosts (UB19, UB ClimaCool and UB ST) but I always have preferred my Nike React shoes for when I'm on my feet for 8hrs. I just wore my Nike React Infinity Flyknits yesterday to work and got in 17,539 steps and at the end of the day my feet felt fine.
If they're still around in 18 years, we'll see... UB40!
The plastic plates are rigid and pair with the high tech foam to create insanely efficient energy return back into the runner.
Adidas litestrike pro is the competitor to Nike zoom x. Maybe you could try that out.
So my first ever experience with Boost foam was the lightboost shoes. They were marketed as running shoes and I used them as such. They’re not great. My saucony trainers and Nike race shoes both perform better (triumph 20 and Vaporfly 3) at their intended function. The foam started to compress really quickly and it just doesn’t feel great underfoot. I now use them exclusively as a lifestyle shoe, which they are pretty good for; stable but squishy and light, pretty breathable, very wearable. In short, great as a more comfy higher-end lifestyle sneaker, but as far as their marketed use, not great.
They are the most comfortable shoes I've ever had.
I have a suspicion about boost and maybe even primeknit...and that is it will eventually (if it isnt already) be a hit with older people as opposed to young ones.
I remember back in the day there were cars called the Cube or xB that were very boxy and they tried *really* hard to make it cool and for young people...and it turned out on a level it was a bit of a hit with the elderly because it was comfortable and they were easily able to get in and out of it. There were articles written about it.
I kind of can see this for boost as well. It came out an it was really cool and I think a lot of that has maybe died down a little bit as trends do and other shoes are hype now but I can still see people wearing them for a long time because they are just really comfortable.
I agree with your analysis, and like your comparison with the nissan cube. I have seen the very thing you’ve spoken about in international airports mainly Europe where the elderly were all wearing asics and now funnily enough On cloud running shoes which are very trendy and funny to see on an OAP.
There's one thing with boost that makes it a supreme midsole material. All of the solid one-piece midsoles compress under the pressure until they become either so deformed to make them anatomically just bad for you to wear them all day, everyday or just simply terribly hard and uncomfortable. And they tend to wear out. All of my Ultraboosts have durable Continental outsole and haven't deformed even after years and years of everyday wear. And that's why I love them so much and will never stop buying them. They're just the best for me.
Man i love what you are doing... this tech is what made me a sneaker fan back in the day.. we just didnt have anyone to break it all down to us. I can watch these vids all day!!!
I‘ve had the adidas Ultra Boost II. There is almost no lateral support. It is a cheaply produced sock glued on a sole.
The Boost unit got just sqeeshy after maybe only three years even not worn much and stored only in places without light and heat.
I'd like to see some Pumas next. Like some Suedes, Slipstreams, or their running shoes compared
Definitely super comfortable if you pair with a proper insole like a run pro you would be surprised how responsive they can be. All running shoes stock insoles should be changed out after a week of use.
Saucony pwrrun Pb foam is super hyped at the moment. THE shoes to have for 2022 are the Endorphin line.
Thanks manscaped. I appreciate you sponsoring regardless of the quality of your products.
Talking about Zoom X foam and Zoom Air units, the Nike Tempo Next% trainers is astonishingly comfortable albeit expensive and not durable. The thing is perfect for anyone that’s overweight, flat-footed, or with a bit of arthralgia. The con is that the bottom sole at the back is incredibly thin so eventually the Zoom X will wear out. Pros is that this shoe makes running feel fun and easy which is what people need when they’re looking to exercise more.
New light strike stuff is looking to become a banger for adidas casual. Looks really nice and comfy
It would be interesting to cut in half and measure the rebound of an Adidas Torsion, because those have a plastic shank right at the middle.
What other shoes i'd recommend would be any model of Adidas with Cloudfoam, Adidas HU because they are clearly a different compound than Cloudfoam and they are much softer, and finally the Boost's direct competitor Puma NRG which uses a similar fused bead foam.
Edit:
I personally used as running shoes Adidas Marathon10 for the longest time. They had a similar hard rubber shank as the ones in this video, but also the heel was independent from the rest of the sole.
Then i switched to Torsion for a short period of time.
And finally got a pair of ZX 2K Boost 2.0 and i never felt faster than that before. The speed increase, even for walking speed, was definitely noticeable. With those i can run around 20km/h without getting tired quickly. It's so unbelivable how much of an unfair advantage those give you.
The fastest i ever ran was 31km/h with the Marathon10's. I have yet to tried a top speed run because the corona period kinda made me a little fat... A little almost 20kg more. :/
Hey Rose Anvil! Have you done any reviews for Crispi Boots? I've been looking though your videos and haven't seen one yet, if not, I'd love to see a pair of those ole' bois chopped up and get a look inside. The Nevada model specifically. I don't think I've seen a boot with such consistently positive reviews yet! Thanks dude preciatechya and what you do here, it's awesome!
Great video very informative about the boost 👍🏼 I would like to see you do an adidas Nmd and a ultraboost.
Might be interesting to compare with some of the popular "Boost-Like" midsoles from Saucony / Asics that "serious runners" are choosing... PEBA/Pebax plated shoes the likes of the Endorphin Speed and Pro.
Havent worn too many boost but i wear my shoes at all times and i heard the reason i had sore feet with them once.. the second pair was because i heard you need to let them rest to get the boost back into optimal cushioning.. my theory is when boost is caged i think maybe it has better duration properties.. i havent tested that out but a theory.. the pair i got sore with was open boost and the first pair i had was more minimal with boost with other materials supporting the underfoot.
This video was very interesting. Could you do this test for other cuchioning technologies as well?
I would really like to know how valid the following are:
New balance fuel cell and freshfoam. 4d Adidas. Lightstrike by Adidas. PureGel and the Flytefoam Blast+ by Asics. Pwrrun by Saucony. Xetic by Puma.
Thumbs up for the center cut alone. Love the vids.
How about cutting apart Kiziks. Are they worth the hands free hype?
You should check out ASICS Gel-Kayano. It’s one of the most popular running shoes used and uses “FF Blast foam” and “Flyte Foam”.
I've owned several pair of foam midsoled shoes. I love that that are soft and squishy, my wife calls it feet hugs. My only problem is that the foam flattens out fairly quick compared to other tech in shoes. My Reebok Realflex lasted the longest I think. I wonder if the boost would last longer than a solid foam since it "contained bubbles".