Approaching 10,000 miles on mine and still going strong. My dual battery setup took care of the range. I rode 92 miles 1/2 on pas 3 then rode back on pas 4 and still showed 2 bars over the 1/2. I did make some mods like chain ring change and freewheel upgrade. The rest is stock. Overall the bike has been awesome.😀
All those miles on the stock seat post with no rear suspension? That's probably the first thing I'd hafta upgrade, but love the idea of a dual battery setup for it, I'm stuck between one of these and a Roadrunner V2, bout the same max speed and range, only the roadrunner be more compact and easier to take into places with me, but the torque on this bike looks incredible and has me debating
@@Ramsas154 If you go to my freewheel change video and check the description you will find the ones I used. th-cam.com/video/QmDPl9Xyc84/w-d-xo.html Hope that helps 😀
Peace be with you! Your channel is soo much fun to watch! Thank you for reviewing the Philodo. Recently I've learned of an ebike company, E-Street Bikes, who offer high powered ebikes. E-Street Bikes sells 2-Moped Style ebikes, the Street Swiper (Hard tail) and the Tempest Dual Battery (Soft tail). The manufacturer is claiming that their motor - single motor - output is 1500W Continuous 5000w peak (52 V 35A Integrated Speed Controller)! Perhaps E-Street Bikes can ship you a review unit. Thanks again.
After a lipo battery fire roasted my 96 chevy truck interior, I decided to buy one of these instead of a new truck. (I plan to rebuild the truck this spring since the fire didn't get into the dash or engine compartment.) Since I live less than 3 miles from work this bike seemes like a great solution! I'm also kinda stoked to not constantly feed that 5.9 dinosaur juice guzzler! From all the videos I've seen I think I'm gonna love it! I also fly FPV drones and I'm extremely excited to fly many of the local locations I simply can't drive to in my truck! I paid about $1500 (with tax) and it gets here this Friday! Thanks for the review!
Hello, my name is Noah and I just wanted to spread the word to you by saying Jesus and God love you very much it says in Revelation 21:3 “Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them.” God is there for you and he sent his one and only son to die on the cross for everyone. If you choose not to believe thats on you. I hope you soak this in. God bless.
I’ve had this bike for about 6 months now. Got it for 1700 off of Amazon due to it being on sale. Range wise has been amazing for me with about 30 miles of distance and still over half battery left over when I was done.
i've got The same bike. I changed The crankset and added a single 46t chainring. Had to solder a different kind of pedal sensor because The stock sensor would not fit. I upgraded The Back shifter and derailleur, hotwired The key ignition and connected a way better throttle. I also added a better battery mount and The battery does not wobble anymore while riding. After all of these changes The bike is an absolute BEAST!
I also have had this bike for a few months and was going to take it to my local shop to have some changes made. What kind of battery mount did you use?
@@DropkickDemonI ordered an aluminium bracket from aliexpress that goes under the battery mount, and it has screw holes for the mount. With this bracket you can add 2 tube clamps to make The battery mounting way more sturdy. I had to place the secondary controller behind the saddle, because the bracket added a bit of extra height and lifted the battery up about 2cm. With The original placement of the secondary controller it was quite difficult to remove the battery without fear of bending a battery contact or causing too much strain to the controller wires.
Controller key P01=003 (back light level) P02=000 (KMH or MPH) P03=048 (voltage) P04=010 (screen timeout 10 minutes) P05=005 (first number = when the motor helps 0 or 1, 5 = levels) P06=29.0 (tire size) P07=086 (? Not sure) P08=100 (speed limit in kmh) P09=000 (0 motor helps immediately when you peddle) P10=002 (0 is pedal assist only, no throttle, 1 is throttle only, 2 is both) P11=001 (sensitivity of peddle assist 1-24, 1 is the highest) P12=005 (intensity of power delivery 1-5, 1 is the most) P13=005 (number of magnets on crank sensor 5,8 or 12) P14=012 (max amp draw of controller) P15=38.0 (under voltage cutoff, 38v vs. 48v) P16=002 (reset ODO, hold mode button and ODO returns to 0) P17 = 00 (cruise control) P18 =01 (walk boost)
This bike is a beast. Well built and fast!! I'm 6'4 280lbs and i love it. On sale on Amazon now for $1,200. No need to spend a ton of money on an ebike. Lots of people on youtube getting incredible miles on one.
@@mikec4308 That scenario only happens if you use the throttle all the time, this bike is designed to be pedaled. and under PAS only the rear motor is active, the AWD kicks in under throttle, so most of the time you're only powering one motor, which does wonders for range. I personally have gotten 30 miles out of it in PAS 4 while pedaling. with battery still left. I do a daily 13 mile commute that only uses one bar of the battery meter. at the same PAS 4 (25 mph) speed. I save PAS 5 for when I need it as even pedaling it will hit 32 mph ... 35 with throttle and AWD.
It's exactly the same as the Keteles K800 bike. Except the Keteles's have a off switch for the front wheel hub and no hydraulic brakes. I did a bunch videos of a hill climes, woods paths and a very rock beaches etc, here in Newfoundland Canada. I have yet to go on a trail that this bike has failed. Popa blue shirt has over 6000 miles on his according to his videos. Enjoyed your ride once again. Good job.
Dude! What a fantastic video! That beach-run segment was better than most Hollywood movies! - Seriously, so real and exhilarating. I was on that bike! - Thank you very much, aaaaand I'm gettin' one! Lol
Thanks for the great review, after a couple of years of trying to figure out which one of these things I'm going to get and finally have the money to get it this is it. This fat tire Electric bicycle has a positive 2000/4000 and 5000 review from a guy on TH-cam. The only thing that went wrong at 4,000 miles was a reflector came off of one of the pedals. 2-year warranty and supposedly the support is responsive. It's currently selling for $400 off the list price of 1899 dollars with free shipping. The first modification I'm going to get or addition to it is the shock absorber spring seat which he said completely changed his riding experience for the better. I learned that you don't want a rear suspension on an e-bike because even the most expensive rear suspension Monoshock style are prone to worn-out bushings and just wear out from all of the abuse. And it's not just the shock absorber bushings that connect to the frame component it's also the other bushings that are part of the bicycle the frame itself that the shock is not attached to. I'll be honest and say that there are other better looking bikes but for the price and the warranty and the reviews I don't care about the looks. I need this to get back and forth to work.
@@user-nw6xc9dv1vI didn’t see that one but that makes this purchase much better. Probably add a second battery. Can’t wait for mine to show up. Gunna go have some fun. In the snow and around the mountains.
I totally agree that the two smaller chain rings on the front are pretty much useless, unless your battery dies. Then you might need them just to be able to pedal the bike lol😅 this bike is good for people that live in the desert, and people that live in the snowy mountains.
That's a beast! I just bought a motorcycle style e-bike, I live at the beach, really want to get in on the beach! All the sand in the parts kinda worries me, that looks very fun
Triple chain ring, beyond being useless, is bad for using up handle bar and putting +/- out of reach. Non-integrated battery and controllers , bad too. Front one won't last long offroad. You need a motor switch ideally that allows front wheel alone too. Battery is ok. 5 seconds 0-20, maybe 4 seconds with pedalling is a great use of power. You can cut off a lot of traffic with that, and 5 seconds at 2000w is as much power as 10 seconds at 1000w, so you get places much faster, without having to cruise above 20mph to get good range. There are a lot of used bikes that could be modded up into this bike. Once you decide on heavy instead of light, direct drive motors are the way to go. Though I like their balance decisions this bike made. Great review. Loved your hill climb attempts. Definitely shows the value of dual motor (sand performance also due to dual motor mostly). Would have loved to see you try and use that small chain ring to pedal up that monster. A fun, or video, idea for you would be something around that hill. Same or other bikes with pedaling. e-mtb workout fun.
From Powell River BC Canada Michael Simard here saying huge thanks to all the work you do I am a full time dad I have disability that kept me from a 9to 5 so I decided to focus on the hobbies I chose RC and found a fam like no other. Your doing this where there’s a few others that do bike advertisements and yet you do so well. What a inspiration ☺️👍👍🤘this is why I always look at TH-cam for info when I decide something. Thing is I just got a fat wheel folding 48 volt e bike and I wish I looked at all your vids first but I luckily got the best type that suits my riding style 👊😎 My dad got one similar to 😊 one goes 32 mph and mine is 30 mph tops I will test mine soon to see what distance it gets on a charge I’m excited 🎉😊
The H8 has cruise control and you can adjust the power availibility in the program PO8. This bike is not really for pedaling Its like a Caddy if you add a seat shock. Range is about 20 miles full out at 25 to 34.7 mph and hills are climbed easily. the best way to get range and perfomance is to run at 25mph and let your momentum carry you and pulse the throttle to maintain speed and you will get about 30mph. The best way to check your range is by looking at your voltage, a full charge is 54.9 volts and will go down around 42 volts. A full charge coupled with a positive mental attitude will yield much fun!
For range I use PAS 4 while basically ghost pedaling.. carries me at 25 mph using just the rear motor... while more on reserve if i kick it up to PAS 5
I think the main theme of awd bikes is that you should have a way to turn down the power of the front hub for launching. I believe the Fabulous bikes have that front power adjustability. But a Fabulous bike you're looking at $2,800
I have one of these bikes , a little less torque in take off would be nice but once you get a mile a hour it takes off and away you go. No spinning of the front tire . I really like the bike but I have no place to ride around my neighborhood ,bad traffic!
When you start from standing still, with just pedaling (no throttle) you will not get launched like a rocket. I also have an awd, and i don't mind it most of the times that the frontwheel spins a little bit. But yes it can be annoying. Also you have to watch out in corners. Take it easy on the throttle.
AWD only engages under throttle, if you are using pedal assist the rear wheel does all the work. Though there is something cool about spinning the front wheel off the line when you twist the throttle in PAS 5
Poppa Blue Shirt just got 10000 miles on it in 8 months. I got the Kettles k800 version, which is the same but has a front wheel on and off switch. I enjoy the AWD.
Excellent review brother. I wish all were like you. Because of your review, I ended up buying one. Love It so far except for the display not resetting the Trip Meter. Philodo Customer service sent me a replacement and it is still not resetting the trip meter after the bike has been powered off.
I just bought the Philodo H7 and am very impressed with its hill-climbing ability here in Vermont. Love this very affordable beast. Hope you test one someday.
Hello, my name is Noah and I just wanted to spread the word to you by saying Jesus and God love you very much it says in Revelation 21:3 “Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them.” God is there for you and he sent his one and only son to die on the cross for everyone. If you choose not to believe thats on you. I hope you soak this in. God bless.
@@KevinAsher-zo2qz Hello, my name is Noah and I just wanted to spread the word to you by saying Jesus and God love you very much it says in Revelation 21:3 “Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them.” God is there for you and he sent his one and only son to die on the cross for everyone. If you choose not to believe thats on you. I hope you soak this in. God bless.
It's built like my DIY bikes. Just put a switch to front controller positive to turn off and on front motor. Dual motors are good for the nitrous switch when needed. Some of these 4 inch fat tire bikes rim widths are only 2.2 inches you can put 3 inch wide tires on them reduce weight and drag.
Yeah similar price here in the UK, considering one as an upgrade to my 1000w single motor bike that has lasted 2 rough winter seasons here in the UK and is used in literally any weathers. I have lots of hills on my work commute and it slows down a lot so having dual motors and a larger battery would be nice.
@@Electricdirtbikes21 the only thing you should be laughing at is your name. Always some goofy MF who thinks there an outlaw. What are you like 13 years old kid.
@TailHappyTV I think you should do a quick re-review of this bike with controller setting P14 changed from the default 12 Amps which limits both motors to 575 Watts, to either a more reasonable 20 amps (960 watts per motor) which I set my bike to or even 25 amps (the controller rating) which would allow 1200 watts per motor. It might be capable of more but the battery is limited to a 50 amp draw 25 amps from each motor. It won't affect top speed since that RPM limited but should make a difference in acceleration, hill climbing and in sand performance
I may try this when I get all the parts in for the dual battery mod on my "similar" bike (ZEEGR S1). I have mine is currently "de-tuned" to 31 MPH, so I don't stress the single battery pack. But once I have two batteries of 48V 22.4 AH (each) in place, it will be time to bump it back to 35 MPH and higher controller current. The second battery is going to be installed on the luggage rack behind the seat.
Love the video but had a different experience with the support staff. As in I have been trying to get help with the bike I bought and have not heard back going on 2 weeks.
Man, thanks for another great review! - I'd definitely consider this one. You should try and get a Road Warrior X2 60v bike from Fabulous EBikes of Canada... I'd LOVE To see a review of that one! - You could do a 3-way review of the Wired Freedom, the Philodo H8, and the Road Warrior X2 60v.
@@Animalwon Hey and thanks for replying. I know about the other channel and I'm a subscriber to it too... Looking back through the back catalog, I have NOT seen a review of the fabulous AWD 60v Road Warrior tho. If he's done it, i'd love a link.
This bike lasted me 2000 miles before i fried the motor while aggressively driving it through snow banks and torturing it via throttle, i absolutely trashed this bike and it managed to last me 2000 miles… costed me $1800 amd if i treated it better id still have it today, fixed it and sold it i now own a eunorau (double the price) but this philodo seems pretty reliable if you don’t torture it like i did
Without knowing anything... The controller looks to house 2 18 amp controllers. Wow! Two controller cases. Neat. That's a bunch of amps more than I guessed. But the mounted case looked like it could hold 2 of the 17-18 amp controllers.😂 That's what I get for commenting mid video.
My Keteles k800 is essentially the same bike only I have a switch to choose from one wheel or all-wheel. Frames and components are all nearly identical. $1450. It's fast even with a 300lb guy on it.
@@mobilephone4045 the front wheel only works under throttle. Believe me you don't want the front wheel to run under pedal assist, it would be very dangerous.
The wheels aren't built right on that bike. The spoke tabs aren't all supposed to be facing the same direction, they're supposed to alternate in and out.
When you use the pedal it uses the rear wheel the throttle uses both. I bought one for my wife 5ft 4in 45 kg to clime the long hill we have and this thing goes right up at 25 mph her old bike 500 watt walmart special would just quit.
I have that slow start on my pholodo h8 as well if you riding the bike and come to a stop within seconds if you gas it again you'll have full throttle on that front wheel I don't really care for this slow start set up so I put a 35 amp controller for the rear sandwich 2 controllers that came with the bike into the bag
Philodo Just came out with a brand new bike... the Jumbo, imagine this but with full front and rear suspension, Dual 23 Amp Hour batteries, a full color display, only 1 front chain ring ... currently listed for $2500 on their website. any chance @TailHappyTV might get one to review
If you spot this comment, just curious: deciding between this and the Velotric Nomad 1. Price difference comes out to just $50 now, $1450 for the velotric after tax, H8 for $1499 all in with shipping. Wanting something fun as hell but practical enough to fetch a few groceries with and leave the car parked. Which would you go with for a 1.5 mile work commute 3-4 days a week? Edit: Price on the H8 just dropped a bit further with a coupon. $1360 now before tax, same as the nomad after tax.
I would go with this, way more powerful than nomad, remember nomad can only go 25 mph top speed, which isn’t even class 3 top speed at 28 mph, which is very disappointing.
@@blackwhirlwind1245 totally; way ahead of ya! I ordered the SMLRO xdc600, which is the same exact bike (SMLRO makes the frame, philodo/others resell it after customization). Ended up saving a bit more compared to the H8, $1150 after tax.
Dude you must be 6'3 because I'm 5'11 and I have to adjust the seat to min to mount this bad boy. Anyway I weigh about 350 or so and the bike does not seem to care. 32mph max on flat and 25 on incline 30deg.> . I do help the bike if it starts dropping mph up hill witch is not often. The light is great but you have to adjust it just right or you will blind people or out run your light to stopping distance in the dark. I almost want to call myself this products torture tester. I know I will not get the 30-40mile range because of my weight but the fact this bike doesn't even flinch with the torque is awesome. I am sorry I didn't see this vid before purchase so you could have collect some promotional dabloons. 23mil. on the odo since 10-29-23 (delivery and assemble was on the 29th) and I love this bike. If the Batt. lasts a year+ This will exceed my expectations.
Hanevear Electric Bike for Adults 20'' Folding Electric Bike, AWD 1500W Dual Motor e-Bike, w/ LG 16Ah Lithium Battery & Hydraulic Brake, Full Suspension, PAS Improve 370%, Rearview Mirror. Front, rear & turn signal lights. 4hr charge..... and more. Delivered to my doorstep in 2 days. Love it! It's beastly! $200.00 less
I realized something about the speed cutoffs in the various PAS modes, they're multiples of 10 km/h in mph... 1 is 10 kph, 2 is 20 kph, 3 is 30 kph... etc
Right now there is a bill in the California legislature requiring licensing registration plates, and liability insurance for people. That drive E bikes. And that’s just the beginning because California goes all the other states will go well most of them and we can thank you and people like you.
Ive been watching your ebike test for a long time but I did watch another review from another TH-camr who showed a Walking Speed test on the bike. I'm trying to picture and Ebike that I could pull a beach cart out on the beach with while walking the bike! I'm in Alabama and along the Gulf Coast we cannot ride a Ebike on the beach but we can walk one! Anyway, I love your videos and reviews and if you could add this feature to your test, I would greatly appreciate it!!!!
you must get this question all the time - but do you sell any of these bikes after your done with the reviews. I am looking for a daily commuter bike like this one.
For those mentioning being able to disable the front wheel. according to Papa Blue Shirt the front motor only engages while using the throttle and uses the rear only in pedal assist. though i never saw this actually demonstrated by turning the pedals with the wheels raised
No, it is back wheel only in pedal assist. And both wheels when using the throttle. I've tested it all out. I can drive around with the throttle using the rear wheel while the front motor is unplugged. Also, PAS is disengaged when using the throttle. I have been driving around in PAS and it would quit working. It has always been that I had my throttle ever so slightly turned. It was enough to kill PAS but not enough to engage motors with the throttle. I would release the throttle and PAS returns after a second or so if I had kept pedaling. I like it like this. I use pedal assist mostly. The 1000w motor handles most everything. Tough hills, fast starts, and dogs are the reasons that I mostly use the throttle(both motors).
@@soonerthebetter2361hi,I have one and my front motor dosent run, I pulling up a nd give the troatle and only the back motor world I dhont have 3 miles yet. Do I need to do something alse...
Hi Matt 👋 Just wondering if you have done a review on the smlro v3 1000w dual motor yet? As i cant find a video on your channel. I live in the uk and most of the bikes you review wont ship here 😔 which is a shame as there has been some really nice ones that look awesome aswell as pack a punch! Anyway if you haven't done a review of the smlro v3 could you?
Would you say the single suspension is a deal breaker? I have a non electric mountain bike and the dual suspension is a big difference compared to single suspension
AWD isn't something I really need in my terrain. Some of the routes I take require riding some gravel. That front tire spin in a gravel corner would be sketchy to me. The Wired Freedom is working out good for me! One caveat- the Wired is a BIG bike. Website says Freedom fits down to 5'4", but I'm about 5'8" and i'm on my very tippy-toes with the seat fully dropped. I'm thinking it would fit a 6+ foot person better. unless you have abnormally long legs. It's a blast to ride though!
Don't discount the benefits of an AWD bike as simply gift for sand. The biggest benefit I found is for AWD is acceleration. Your getting a cheap ebike that accelerates from 0-30 at the rate as many much more expensive higher power ebikes. Though the top ends not as powerful, having a bike that can accelerate that important 0-30mph quickly is really really helpful when riding on the road.
@@azutori You're right! The Freedom will be way too tall for you. I'm not sure what the seat height of their step-through is for sure, but it's also a hardtail(like most step-throughs) if that matters to you. The Magicycle Deer is an interesting concept; step-through WITH full suspension, but it's also more $$$ than a WIred bike. Maybe Wired will bring out another model some day that's a little more friendly to us "vertically-challenged" folks! Lol
Yeah the Philodo H8 had the exact same accel time as my Wired Freedom, but at a lower price. Weights are pretty much identical too. It's a ton of fun to ride, but realistically I really should have gotten a smaller-framed bike for my height. I'm 5'8" or so, and tippy-toe to touch the ground with the seat all the way down on the Freedom. My next Ebike will definitely be shorter! @@donvee2000
@2:26: I guess a buyer won't be using a suspension seat post on this bike, as they typically come sized in either 27.2mm, 30.9mm, or 31.6mmm - *NOT* the 30.4mm that this bike's frame expects for a seat post. That's sad, because it looks like a capable bike, but that permanent hard-tail setup is going to be BRUTAL off road.
My recommendation is to buy a seat post with a smaller diameter, and then grab an adapter for like five bucks. This is the exact method I used to make my seat post compatible with many of the ebikes I have.
Could l you please specify some options in this price range that has similar specs? I just bought this bike and it's pretty powerful, helps me get on the road at decent speeds without feeling like I'm holding down the traffic too much. Also helps me go up and down some really steep roads with little effort. Only asking cause I'm still within the return period and wouldn't mind returning this for a cheaper one that does the same job
I'm not sure you will find a cheaper one like this one, I've checked several times. I have one also and I'm not sending it back ,don't have a good place to ride traffic is terrible! No respect for bike riders! We have bike trails but you have to drive long ways to get to them.
Ive got a very similar bike just under a different brand. And with mine the both motors are on when you use throttle. If you only use peddle assist, then only the rear motor engages. Im guessing its the same on this bike
Keteles and SMLRO are 95% the same bike as the PHILODO. It alone is Much cheaper than a Wired. The cheapest price for the SMRLO is at $1150. shipped, When compared to the Wired $2500 with insurance,shipping, taxes, $1350 difference between the two.
Thanks for the review. A few weeks back I asked you about your thoughts on this Philodo H8 bike in comparison to the Wired Freedom bike and at that time you said that you really like the all wheel drive bikes but that you could not do a comparison because you had not had a chance to ride the Philodo. Now that you have had the chance to ride both of them what are your thoughts on a comparison with respect to power, speed, distance, etc. Thanks in advance! Keep up the great work!!
wired freedom is way more polished and rides way nicer with full suspension and lighter unsprung mass having just one motor. the new upgraded suspension is going to be a game changer for the entire industry. the 60v has more pep on a full charge and also feels stronger deeper into the battery, aka when they get down to 50%
@@TailHappyTV Hey sir, can I buy or rent the Wired Freedom 2024 bike off of you? Or can you find a way to get a new one from wired? I'll buy it for up to $3000 because the supplier told me they're out and cannot help me. I have a big trip planned across the country and back and would really appreciate having it as I'm not rich enough to buy another beefy bike AND purchase the preorder. My trip is a long way from mid January. And is there a better way I can contact you? I'd do close to anything man, even fly all the way to you. Thank you man.
Sorry to say but you have no comprehensive idea about what this bike really is. It is a powerhouse monster made to climb and to go fast and accellerate even on slopes and it is made to eat away rough terrains like none. You consume all the battery quite fast IF you throttle all the way, but not if you just go with pedal assist. I have this thing, the white version, quite modified by myself... a treasure. I think very few bikes can handle mountain and or slope like this one. The size and the weight grant much more stability than those flimsy little one motor only bicicle I see everywhere. Plus... throttle is like NITRO here :-) I'm very happy about this thing.
Out of curiosity, are most of the e-bike people bikers in general? As a skater I never got into biking. Dirt biking sure, but I’d go do trails in Sundance when I was younger. Only to get out of the house. I moved to a small small small small small town less than 50 people. There’s so many ways to go around to the mountains. Can’t wait to explore and have fun in the snow with this. Debating on a battery for just in case, and also debating on buying 2 more tires so I can stud them and go have fun in the frozen lakes :p
im not even getting 20 miles to a charge on mine, ive got 2, the other one gets 25 miles and thats really putting it at the end. ive had the bike about 4 months so idk if philodo will do anything, ive put close to 200 miles on mine and at worst ive gotten 8 miles. at best ive gotten 20. 25 if i use the other philodo bike battery both bought at the same time. wondering if we got a bad batch of batteries. psi is 15-18, weather in the 60's not really windy and not steep hills.
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My. Front motor dosent mueve, do I need to do anything? PLASE help me
@@leyendanumismatica make sure it's connected and are you pealing the bikeor using the throttle?
1:05 For those concerned about the Battery, it's a ChamRiderr unit that uses Samsung INR21700 cells so probably safe and reliable
If it’s not UL certified, then battery safety is a still a concern, that’s the whole point of UL certification.
@@blackwhirlwind1245even ul certification doesn't mean invincible 😅 you're a clown
took mine for it's first 13 mile test ride this morning... absolutely love it
You paid way to much I could get 3 for what you paid for 1 😅😂😅😂
@@user-ms8xp4dx2kthat’s what I’m thinking too it’s so cheaply made
@@user-ms8xp4dx2k 3 of what?
@@user-ms8xp4dx2k what do you mean?
@@user-ms8xp4dx2k okay try buying 3 of these for £1399 lol.
Approaching 10,000 miles on mine and still going strong. My dual battery setup took care of the range. I rode 92 miles 1/2 on pas 3 then rode back on pas 4 and still showed 2 bars over the 1/2. I did make some mods like chain ring change and freewheel upgrade. The rest is stock. Overall the bike has been awesome.😀
All those miles on the stock seat post with no rear suspension? That's probably the first thing I'd hafta upgrade, but love the idea of a dual battery setup for it, I'm stuck between one of these and a Roadrunner V2, bout the same max speed and range, only the roadrunner be more compact and easier to take into places with me, but the torque on this bike looks incredible and has me debating
Love your channel because of you I also did the dual battery upgrade and plan on doing more. Almost 600 miles on mine though.
He has a suspension seat post on his @@mythoti
Hey, what kind of chainring and freewheel did you used?
@@Ramsas154 If you go to my freewheel change video and check the description you will find the ones I used.
th-cam.com/video/QmDPl9Xyc84/w-d-xo.html
Hope that helps 😀
Peace be with you! Your channel is soo much fun to watch! Thank you for reviewing the Philodo. Recently I've learned of an ebike company, E-Street Bikes, who offer high powered ebikes. E-Street Bikes sells 2-Moped Style ebikes, the Street Swiper (Hard tail) and the Tempest Dual Battery (Soft tail). The manufacturer is claiming that their motor - single motor - output is 1500W Continuous 5000w peak (52 V 35A Integrated Speed Controller)! Perhaps E-Street Bikes can ship you a review unit. Thanks again.
After a lipo battery fire roasted my 96 chevy truck interior, I decided to buy one of these instead of a new truck. (I plan to rebuild the truck this spring since the fire didn't get into the dash or engine compartment.)
Since I live less than 3 miles from work this bike seemes like a great solution! I'm also kinda stoked to not constantly feed that 5.9 dinosaur juice guzzler!
From all the videos I've seen I think I'm gonna love it!
I also fly FPV drones and I'm extremely excited to fly many of the local locations I simply can't drive to in my truck!
I paid about $1500 (with tax) and it gets here this Friday!
Thanks for the review!
i think i found your youtube chsnnel where you show off you own Hi8
Hello, my name is Noah and I just wanted to spread the word to you by saying Jesus and God love you very much it says in Revelation 21:3 “Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them.” God is there for you and he sent his one and only son to die on the cross for everyone. If you choose not to believe thats on you. I hope you soak this in. God bless.
I’ve had this bike for about 6 months now. Got it for 1700 off of Amazon due to it being on sale. Range wise has been amazing for me with about 30 miles of distance and still over half battery left over when I was done.
I’m 5’2 would this be for me please answer
@@BenStenson No, the minimum seat height is way too high. This is a large bike.
@@addertooth1fuck! I’m only 5 foot! I hope I don’t look like a mijet when I’m out on the street 😅
@@BenStensonno
i've got The same bike. I changed The crankset and added a single 46t chainring. Had to solder a different kind of pedal sensor because The stock sensor would not fit. I upgraded The Back shifter and derailleur, hotwired The key ignition and connected a way better throttle. I also added a better battery mount and The battery does not wobble anymore while riding. After all of these changes The bike is an absolute BEAST!
I also have had this bike for a few months and was going to take it to my local shop to have some changes made. What kind of battery mount did you use?
@@DropkickDemonI ordered an aluminium bracket from aliexpress that goes under the battery mount, and it has screw holes for the mount. With this bracket you can add 2 tube clamps to make The battery mounting way more sturdy. I had to place the secondary controller behind the saddle, because the bracket added a bit of extra height and lifted the battery up about 2cm. With The original placement of the secondary controller it was quite difficult to remove the battery without fear of bending a battery contact or causing too much strain to the controller wires.
@@DropkickDemon❤Definitely will be getting one. Looks every bit worth the investment.❤
Controller key
P01=003 (back light level)
P02=000 (KMH or MPH)
P03=048 (voltage)
P04=010 (screen timeout 10 minutes)
P05=005 (first number = when the motor helps 0 or 1, 5 = levels)
P06=29.0 (tire size)
P07=086 (? Not sure)
P08=100 (speed limit in kmh)
P09=000 (0 motor helps immediately when you peddle)
P10=002 (0 is pedal assist only, no throttle, 1 is throttle only, 2 is both)
P11=001 (sensitivity of peddle assist 1-24, 1 is the highest)
P12=005 (intensity of power delivery 1-5, 1 is the most)
P13=005 (number of magnets on crank sensor 5,8 or 12)
P14=012 (max amp draw of controller)
P15=38.0 (under voltage cutoff, 38v vs. 48v)
P16=002 (reset ODO, hold mode button and ODO returns to 0)
P17 = 00 (cruise control)
P18 =01 (walk boost)
I think P07 is some kind of assembly speed test. I have P07 in my notes as 'don't touch.'
What is max amp draw of controller?
@@StefanRandall There are 2 controllers 20 amps each +/- 1 amp.
@@TheCvp33 27 +/- 2 amps, Matt shows it at 5:10 in the review
This bike is a beast. Well built and fast!! I'm 6'4 280lbs and i love it. On sale on Amazon now for $1,200. No need to spend a ton of money on an ebike. Lots of people on youtube getting incredible miles on one.
one battery with dual motors = low range and it looks like a DIY ebike
@@mikec4308 That scenario only happens if you use the throttle all the time, this bike is designed to be pedaled. and under PAS only the rear motor is active, the AWD kicks in under throttle, so most of the time you're only powering one motor, which does wonders for range. I personally have gotten 30 miles out of it in PAS 4 while pedaling. with battery still left. I do a daily 13 mile commute that only uses one bar of the battery meter. at the same PAS 4 (25 mph) speed. I save PAS 5 for when I need it as even pedaling it will hit 32 mph ... 35 with throttle and AWD.
It's exactly the same as the Keteles K800 bike. Except the Keteles's have a off switch for the front wheel hub and no hydraulic brakes.
I did a bunch videos of a hill climes, woods paths and a very rock beaches etc, here in Newfoundland Canada.
I have yet to go on a trail that this bike has failed.
Popa blue shirt has over 6000 miles on his according to his videos.
Enjoyed your ride once again. Good job.
The keteles is 1000w and this one is 2000, not sure what you mean it's the same
What no it’s not the Keetles k800 is a 2000w awd
youre right my bad@@Hshshdhehhehehew
@@HouseofGausss all good
The Keteles K800 is currently $400 less than the Philodo H8.
Dude! What a fantastic video! That beach-run segment was better than most Hollywood movies! - Seriously, so real and exhilarating. I was on that bike! - Thank you very much, aaaaand I'm gettin' one! Lol
Thanks for the great review, after a couple of years of trying to figure out which one of these things I'm going to get and finally have the money to get it this is it. This fat tire Electric bicycle has a positive 2000/4000 and 5000 review from a guy on TH-cam. The only thing that went wrong at 4,000 miles was a reflector came off of one of the pedals. 2-year warranty and supposedly the support is responsive. It's currently selling for $400 off the list price of 1899 dollars with free shipping. The first modification I'm going to get or addition to it is the shock absorber spring seat which he said completely changed his riding experience for the better. I learned that you don't want a rear suspension on an e-bike because even the most expensive rear suspension Monoshock style are prone to worn-out bushings and just wear out from all of the abuse. And it's not just the shock absorber bushings that connect to the frame component it's also the other bushings that are part of the bicycle the frame itself that the shock is not attached to. I'll be honest and say that there are other better looking bikes but for the price and the warranty and the reviews I don't care about the looks. I need this to get back and forth to work.
You're talking about Papa Blue Shirt! He's at 9100 miles now and nothing has gone wrong. He did upgrade the gears though.
@@user-nw6xc9dv1vI didn’t see that one but that makes this purchase much better. Probably add a second battery. Can’t wait for mine to show up. Gunna go have some fun. In the snow and around the mountains.
its a good thing you dont care about the looks
I have one. It's pretty sweet I got over 1100 miles on it and still going strong.
I totally agree that the two smaller chain rings on the front are pretty much useless, unless your battery dies. Then you might need them just to be able to pedal the bike lol😅 this bike is good for people that live in the desert, and people that live in the snowy mountains.
Also great for those who want to ride on the beach.
That's a beast! I just bought a motorcycle style e-bike, I live at the beach, really want to get in on the beach! All the sand in the parts kinda worries me, that looks very fun
One of your best reviews 🤘🏻
18:55 I've watched this over and over and I still can't see how the bike stopped.
Oh I get it now
what bike?
Same at 1340
Triple chain ring, beyond being useless, is bad for using up handle bar and putting +/- out of reach. Non-integrated battery and controllers , bad too. Front one won't last long offroad. You need a motor switch ideally that allows front wheel alone too. Battery is ok. 5 seconds 0-20, maybe 4 seconds with pedalling is a great use of power. You can cut off a lot of traffic with that, and 5 seconds at 2000w is as much power as 10 seconds at 1000w, so you get places much faster, without having to cruise above 20mph to get good range.
There are a lot of used bikes that could be modded up into this bike. Once you decide on heavy instead of light, direct drive motors are the way to go. Though I like their balance decisions this bike made.
Great review. Loved your hill climb attempts. Definitely shows the value of dual motor (sand performance also due to dual motor mostly). Would have loved to see you try and use that small chain ring to pedal up that monster.
A fun, or video, idea for you would be something around that hill. Same or other bikes with pedaling. e-mtb workout fun.
The best part is the rear works in PAS wile the front only kicks in with the throttle, so You can save you battery by pedaling.
Zombie at 8:48
From Powell River BC Canada Michael Simard here saying huge thanks to all the work you do
I am a full time dad I have disability that kept me from a 9to 5 so I decided to focus on the hobbies I chose RC and found a fam like no other.
Your doing this where there’s a few others that do bike advertisements and yet you do so well. What a inspiration ☺️👍👍🤘this is why I always look at TH-cam for info when I decide something.
Thing is I just got a fat wheel folding 48 volt e bike and I wish I looked at all your vids first but I luckily got the best type that suits my riding style 👊😎
My dad got one similar to 😊 one goes 32 mph and mine is 30 mph tops
I will test mine soon to see what distance it gets on a charge I’m excited 🎉😊
The H8 has cruise control and you can adjust the power availibility in the program PO8. This bike is not really for pedaling Its like a Caddy if you add a seat shock. Range is about 20 miles full out at 25 to 34.7 mph and hills are climbed easily. the best way to get range and perfomance is to run at 25mph and let your momentum carry you and pulse the throttle to maintain speed and you will get about 30mph. The best way to check your range is by looking at your voltage, a full charge is 54.9 volts and will go down around 42 volts. A full charge coupled with a positive mental attitude will yield much fun!
For range I use PAS 4 while basically ghost pedaling.. carries me at 25 mph using just the rear motor... while more on reserve if i kick it up to PAS 5
I think the main theme of awd bikes is that you should have a way to turn down the power of the front hub for launching. I believe the Fabulous bikes have that front power adjustability. But a Fabulous bike you're looking at $2,800
Yes. Needed feature for dual motor type of bike to take off in popularity.
I have one of these bikes , a little less torque in take off would be nice but once you get a mile a hour it takes off and away you go. No spinning of the front tire . I really like the bike but I have no place to ride around my neighborhood ,bad traffic!
@@jeffhagberg6796 that's why I was looking at dual hub folding bikes. Or a powerful rear hub folding bike like the Amp Rides.
When you start from standing still, with just pedaling (no throttle) you will not get launched like a rocket.
I also have an awd, and i don't mind it most of the times that the frontwheel spins a little bit. But yes it can be annoying. Also you have to watch out in corners.
Take it easy on the throttle.
AWD only engages under throttle, if you are using pedal assist the rear wheel does all the work. Though there is something cool about spinning the front wheel off the line when you twist the throttle in PAS 5
Poppa Blue Shirt just got 10000 miles on it in 8 months. I got the Kettles k800 version, which is the same but has a front wheel on and off switch. I enjoy the AWD.
What's the real top speed of the Kettles K800?
Thanks in advance.
35mph@@joaomatos9194
Excellent review brother. I wish all were like you. Because of your review, I ended up buying one. Love It so far except for the display not resetting the Trip Meter. Philodo Customer service sent me a replacement and it is still not resetting the trip meter after the bike has been powered off.
8:48 oh hell nah, that’s mf zombie roaming the street 😂
an AWD mountain bike!?!? I need that in my life.
Just completed 100 miles. This thing is a beast!
8:44 wow good zombie apocalypse bike.
Love the rollerskating 😂
I think you mean the rollerskater
Yeah the roller skating that the roller skaters did was good. 73
I just bought the Philodo H7 and am very impressed with its hill-climbing ability here in Vermont. Love this very affordable beast. Hope you test one someday.
I just got my h7 too...awesome bike. My wife gets 35mph on her h7..love it.
I've had mine since October in the Oregon Cascades. Love it still
How is it working out for u???
Hello, my name is Noah and I just wanted to spread the word to you by saying Jesus and God love you very much it says in Revelation 21:3 “Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them.” God is there for you and he sent his one and only son to die on the cross for everyone. If you choose not to believe thats on you. I hope you soak this in. God bless.
@@KevinAsher-zo2qz Hello, my name is Noah and I just wanted to spread the word to you by saying Jesus and God love you very much it says in Revelation 21:3 “Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them.” God is there for you and he sent his one and only son to die on the cross for everyone. If you choose not to believe thats on you. I hope you soak this in. God bless.
It's built like my DIY bikes. Just put a switch to front controller positive to turn off and on front motor. Dual motors are good for the nitrous switch when needed. Some of these 4 inch fat tire bikes rim widths are only 2.2 inches you can put 3 inch wide tires on them reduce weight and drag.
Already has a switch to turn off the front motor.
The Keetles k800 has one
@@TheCvp33 what do you mean it has a switch? Are you hinting at the fact that the front motor can be unplugged ?
@@HouseofGausss sorry no, the Philodo has no switch, the Keteles K800 does. My mistake.
@@HouseofGausss technically there is a switch to disengage the front motor... it's called pedaling, only the rear motor works in pas mode
It would be easy to wire a cut off switch to that front motor. Not sure why they didnt include one
This bike is currently $1360 on Amazon with free delivery
Yeah similar price here in the UK, considering one as an upgrade to my 1000w single motor bike that has lasted 2 rough winter seasons here in the UK and is used in literally any weathers. I have lots of hills on my work commute and it slows down a lot so having dual motors and a larger battery would be nice.
It was $1029 last week. I bought 2 of them. Awesome bike.
@@bigguy1403always sum goofy mf that gotta brag no one cares my man u coulda just said I got 2 lmao
@DutchTheoutlaw there's always some goofy ass wipe who thinks there a real outlaw. You could have just called yourself Dutch the doofus. Lmao.
@@Electricdirtbikes21 the only thing you should be laughing at is your name. Always some goofy MF who thinks there an outlaw. What are you like 13 years old kid.
@TailHappyTV I think you should do a quick re-review of this bike with controller setting P14 changed from the default 12 Amps which limits both motors to 575 Watts, to either a more reasonable 20 amps (960 watts per motor) which I set my bike to or even 25 amps (the controller rating) which would allow 1200 watts per motor. It might be capable of more but the battery is limited to a 50 amp draw 25 amps from each motor. It won't affect top speed since that RPM limited but should make a difference in acceleration, hill climbing and in sand performance
I may try this when I get all the parts in for the dual battery mod on my "similar" bike (ZEEGR S1). I have mine is currently "de-tuned" to 31 MPH, so I don't stress the single battery pack. But once I have two batteries of 48V 22.4 AH (each) in place, it will be time to bump it back to 35 MPH and higher controller current. The second battery is going to be installed on the luggage rack behind the seat.
wow great bike do agree it need to designed to look more professionally made i mean the canvas cover for the controller looks terrible....peace out
I kinda like the whole DIY vibe of it. Should be very easy to work on and repair, modify, etc.
Love the video but had a different experience with the support staff. As in I have been trying to get help with the bike I bought and have not heard back going on 2 weeks.
That was the best and most entertaining ebike review I've yet seen! Hill climbing...lane splitting...wa!
i just got mine yesterday, this video doesn't give justice to how big this bike actually is
I like this bike. Lots of deliverable power! Thank you
No water bottle. No cup holder. No ash tray.
Backpack or water (back) pack . Who needs an Ash tray on a bike?
No ac, no seat warmer.
Most bikes don't have that anyways.
@@TheTriciaLife You missed the joke
Good yoke 😂
Man, thanks for another great review! - I'd definitely consider this one. You should try and get a Road Warrior X2 60v bike from Fabulous EBikes of Canada... I'd LOVE To see a review of that one! - You could do a 3-way review of the Wired Freedom, the Philodo H8, and the Road Warrior X2 60v.
He has a second channel where he reviews all the Faster bikes, including the 60v models.
@@Animalwon Hey and thanks for replying. I know about the other channel and I'm a subscriber to it too... Looking back through the back catalog, I have NOT seen a review of the fabulous AWD 60v Road Warrior tho. If he's done it, i'd love a link.
Add a speed-based traction control that does not allow the front motor to exceed the speed of the rear by a selectable amount.
This bike lasted me 2000 miles before i fried the motor while aggressively driving it through snow banks and torturing it via throttle, i absolutely trashed this bike and it managed to last me 2000 miles… costed me $1800 amd if i treated it better id still have it today, fixed it and sold it i now own a eunorau (double the price) but this philodo seems pretty reliable if you don’t torture it like i did
Without knowing anything... The controller looks to house 2 18 amp controllers. Wow! Two controller cases. Neat. That's a bunch of amps more than I guessed. But the mounted case looked like it could hold 2 of the 17-18 amp controllers.😂 That's what I get for commenting mid video.
I’m not positive but I think the throttle does the front and the pedal works the rear?
Peddle only, will only activate the rear motor, throttle does both motors.
18:54 this was a banger
Awesome video! Only downside is that you wore going way to fast past all the bums. :)
lol
Please, be respectful; they’re called home challenged.
I think the wide angle cam makes it look like he's going faster than the real. Look at MPH when he has the display on camera.
My Keteles k800 is essentially the same bike only I have a switch to choose from one wheel or all-wheel. Frames and components are all nearly identical. $1450. It's fast even with a 300lb guy on it.
Does the K800 use the front wheel in pedal assist with the switch on, or only with throttle like this bike?
@@mobilephone4045 the front wheel only works under throttle. Believe me you don't want the front wheel to run under pedal assist, it would be very dangerous.
The wheels aren't built right on that bike. The spoke tabs aren't all supposed to be facing the same direction, they're supposed to alternate in and out.
I had heard that the rear motor runs off of pedal-assist and the front motor runs off of throttle, is that still the case?
His in house early in video after assembly part, the throttle was spinning both wheels off ground on kickstand.
Correct the front motor only works when throttled
When you use the pedal it uses the rear wheel the throttle uses both. I bought one for my wife 5ft 4in 45 kg to clime the long hill we have and this thing goes right up at 25 mph her old bike 500 watt walmart special would just quit.
AWD! Hell yes 🙌🏻 💥
Oh my😮 the rollerskate bikini girl during the break test needed to get a second look on pause.
came to the comments for this specifically.
Noooo
Why are you doing over 30 on a mixed used pedestrian/bike path?
I have that slow start on my pholodo h8 as well if you riding the bike and come to a stop within seconds if you gas it again you'll have full throttle on that front wheel I don't really care for this slow start set up so I put a 35 amp controller for the rear sandwich 2 controllers that came with the bike into the bag
make sure P09 is set to 0 this is the setting for zero start on the throttle
Seat is way uncomfortable. Very fast bike 28 MPH on mine with my weight my wife got 33 MPH on hers.
Philodo Just came out with a brand new bike... the Jumbo, imagine this but with full front and rear suspension, Dual 23 Amp Hour batteries, a full color display, only 1 front chain ring ... currently listed for $2500 on their website. any chance @TailHappyTV might get one to review
He just reviewed it if you haven't seen.
@@ramborambokitchenkitchen6357 i saw... finally
...Can't even lay on The Beach without Stuff like This.... God I Love My Flobee ...
If you spot this comment, just curious: deciding between this and the Velotric Nomad 1. Price difference comes out to just $50 now, $1450 for the velotric after tax, H8 for $1499 all in with shipping. Wanting something fun as hell but practical enough to fetch a few groceries with and leave the car parked. Which would you go with for a 1.5 mile work commute 3-4 days a week?
Edit: Price on the H8 just dropped a bit further with a coupon. $1360 now before tax, same as the nomad after tax.
I would go with this, way more powerful than nomad, remember nomad can only go 25 mph top speed, which isn’t even class 3 top speed at 28 mph, which is very disappointing.
@@blackwhirlwind1245 totally; way ahead of ya! I ordered the SMLRO xdc600, which is the same exact bike (SMLRO makes the frame, philodo/others resell it after customization). Ended up saving a bit more compared to the H8, $1150 after tax.
Dude you must be 6'3 because I'm 5'11 and I have to adjust the seat to min to mount this bad boy.
Anyway I weigh about 350 or so and the bike does not seem to care. 32mph max on flat and 25 on incline 30deg.> . I do help the bike if it starts dropping mph up hill witch is not often.
The light is great but you have to adjust it just right or you will blind people or out run your light to stopping distance in the dark.
I almost want to call myself this products torture tester.
I know I will not get the 30-40mile range because of my weight but the fact this bike doesn't even flinch with the torque is awesome.
I am sorry I didn't see this vid before purchase so you could have collect some promotional dabloons.
23mil. on the odo since 10-29-23 (delivery and assemble was on the 29th) and I love this bike.
If the Batt. lasts a year+ This will exceed my expectations.
00:35 this is the bike i wanna Ride😇
Keteles K800 - $1,499 with coupon K100. Again no tax, free shipping for the same bike. AND a switch to turn off the front motor,
Hanevear Electric Bike for Adults 20'' Folding Electric Bike, AWD 1500W Dual Motor e-Bike, w/ LG 16Ah Lithium Battery & Hydraulic Brake, Full Suspension, PAS Improve 370%, Rearview Mirror. Front, rear & turn signal lights. 4hr charge..... and more. Delivered to my doorstep in 2 days. Love it! It's beastly! $200.00 less
I realized something about the speed cutoffs in the various PAS modes, they're multiples of 10 km/h in mph... 1 is 10 kph, 2 is 20 kph, 3 is 30 kph... etc
Right now there is a bill in the California legislature requiring licensing registration plates, and liability insurance for people. That drive E bikes. And that’s just the beginning because California goes all the other states will go well most of them and we can thank you and people like you.
Best runonsentence of the hour.
@@azilll tanks!
18:55 nice
If it's the same as the one I rode the pedals only enable the rear motor and the twist throttle works both
Ive been watching your ebike test for a long time but I did watch another review from another TH-camr who showed a Walking Speed test on the bike. I'm trying to picture and Ebike that I could pull a beach cart out on the beach with while walking the bike! I'm in Alabama and along the Gulf Coast we cannot ride a Ebike on the beach but we can walk one! Anyway, I love your videos and reviews and if you could add this feature to your test, I would greatly appreciate it!!!!
You can turn off the front motor; unplug it. Unplug the controller, it has 2.
The Zeegr has a button on the handlebars for switching the front motor off and on. No need to unplug stuff.
you must get this question all the time - but do you sell any of these bikes after your done with the reviews. I am looking for a daily commuter bike like this one.
I have one and IT IS GREAT!
My go 30mph
For those mentioning being able to disable the front wheel. according to Papa Blue Shirt the front motor only engages while using the throttle and uses the rear only in pedal assist. though i never saw this actually demonstrated by turning the pedals with the wheels raised
No, it is back wheel only in pedal assist. And both wheels when using the throttle. I've tested it all out. I can drive around with the throttle using the rear wheel while the front motor is unplugged. Also, PAS is disengaged when using the throttle. I have been driving around in PAS and it would quit working. It has always been that I had my throttle ever so slightly turned. It was enough to kill PAS but not enough to engage motors with the throttle. I would release the throttle and PAS returns after a second or so if I had kept pedaling.
I like it like this. I use pedal assist mostly. The 1000w motor handles most everything. Tough hills, fast starts, and dogs are the reasons that I mostly use the throttle(both motors).
@@soonerthebetter2361hi,I have one and my front motor dosent run, I pulling up a nd give the troatle and only the back motor world I dhont have 3 miles yet. Do I need to do something alse...
@@leyendanumismatica check your connections at the front motor and coming from throttle.
Front motor works on throttle only. If your just peddling the bike just uses the rear motor.
Hi Matt 👋
Just wondering if you have done a review on the smlro v3 1000w dual motor yet? As i cant find a video on your channel.
I live in the uk and most of the bikes you review wont ship here 😔 which is a shame as there has been some really nice ones that look awesome aswell as pack a punch!
Anyway if you haven't done a review of the smlro v3 could you?
i actually ordered one of this exact bike yesterday
I guess you could disconnect the front motor until you think you need it.
Yeah thats what I was thinking. Just unplug it. save juice if not needed. Plug it in if you do. Kind of a pain but it would work.
or just pedal, both motors only engage while under throttle
@@chuckwolf9869 yes, only problem for me is that I can't.
Install a switch after the warranty is up. 73
Would you say the single suspension is a deal breaker? I have a non electric mountain bike and the dual suspension is a big difference compared to single suspension
I prefer hard tails
AWD isn't something I really need in my terrain. Some of the routes I take require riding some gravel. That front tire spin in a gravel corner would be sketchy to me. The Wired Freedom is working out good for me! One caveat- the Wired is a BIG bike. Website says Freedom fits down to 5'4", but I'm about 5'8" and i'm on my very tippy-toes with the seat fully dropped. I'm thinking it would fit a 6+ foot person better. unless you have abnormally long legs. It's a blast to ride though!
Wired Freedom is the bike I want, but sadly.. I'm 5'0 short and that bike would be too big.
Don't discount the benefits of an AWD bike as simply gift for sand. The biggest benefit I found is for AWD is acceleration. Your getting a cheap ebike that accelerates from 0-30 at the rate as many much more expensive higher power ebikes. Though the top ends not as powerful, having a bike that can accelerate that important 0-30mph quickly is really really helpful when riding on the road.
@@azutori You're right! The Freedom will be way too tall for you. I'm not sure what the seat height of their step-through is for sure, but it's also a hardtail(like most step-throughs) if that matters to you. The Magicycle Deer is an interesting concept; step-through WITH full suspension, but it's also more $$$ than a WIred bike. Maybe Wired will bring out another model some day that's a little more friendly to us "vertically-challenged" folks! Lol
Yeah the Philodo H8 had the exact same accel time as my Wired Freedom, but at a lower price. Weights are pretty much identical too. It's a ton of fun to ride, but realistically I really should have gotten a smaller-framed bike for my height. I'm 5'8" or so, and tippy-toe to touch the ground with the seat all the way down on the Freedom. My next Ebike will definitely be shorter! @@donvee2000
Zombie at 8:46. Using the crosswalk. Reviewer stopping to let the zombie cross while casually reviewing an E-bike. Priceless!
Good review, thanks!
@2:26: I guess a buyer won't be using a suspension seat post on this bike, as they typically come sized in either 27.2mm, 30.9mm, or 31.6mmm - *NOT* the 30.4mm that this bike's frame expects for a seat post. That's sad, because it looks like a capable bike, but that permanent hard-tail setup is going to be BRUTAL off road.
My recommendation is to buy a seat post with a smaller diameter, and then grab an adapter for like five bucks. This is the exact method I used to make my seat post compatible with many of the ebikes I have.
I have this bike. I purchased a 27.2mm suspension seatpost and a 27.2 x 30.4mm tube adapter. It works great.
The shims are usually free most times now
Seems pretty up there in power but I think you have reviewed better in that price range. Thanks for video! always interesting for comparing!
Could l you please specify some options in this price range that has similar specs? I just bought this bike and it's pretty powerful, helps me get on the road at decent speeds without feeling like I'm holding down the traffic too much. Also helps me go up and down some really steep roads with little effort. Only asking cause I'm still within the return period and wouldn't mind returning this for a cheaper one that does the same job
I'm not sure you will find a cheaper one like this one, I've checked several times. I have one also and I'm not sending it back ,don't have a good place to ride traffic is terrible! No respect for bike riders! We have bike trails but you have to drive long ways to get to them.
@@HouseofGausss I just got one, and it’s great.
@@StefanRandall I got mine shortly after that comment, been loving it
Ive got a very similar bike just under a different brand. And with mine the both motors are on when you use throttle. If you only use peddle assist, then only the rear motor engages. Im guessing its the same on this bike
I have the H8. It is the same as you describe.
@@soonerthebetter2361 On the ZEEGR (similar 2 motor 2kw bike) the front motor will engage as needed if you select "cruise control" and hit an incline.
U should review the ridstar q20 pro dual battery and motor bike
Keteles and SMLRO are 95% the same bike as the PHILODO. It alone is Much cheaper than a Wired.
The cheapest price for the SMRLO is at $1150. shipped,
When compared to the Wired $2500 with insurance,shipping, taxes, $1350 difference between the two.
Thanks for the review. A few weeks back I asked you about your thoughts on this Philodo H8 bike in comparison to the Wired Freedom bike and at that time you said that you really like the all wheel drive bikes but that you could not do a comparison because you had not had a chance to ride the Philodo. Now that you have had the chance to ride both of them what are your thoughts on a comparison with respect to power, speed, distance, etc. Thanks in advance! Keep up the great work!!
wired freedom is way more polished and rides way nicer with full suspension and lighter unsprung mass having just one motor. the new upgraded suspension is going to be a game changer for the entire industry. the 60v has more pep on a full charge and also feels stronger deeper into the battery, aka when they get down to 50%
@@TailHappyTV Hey sir, can I buy or rent the Wired Freedom 2024 bike off of you? Or can you find a way to get a new one from wired? I'll buy it for up to $3000 because the supplier told me they're out and cannot help me.
I have a big trip planned across the country and back and would really appreciate having it as I'm not rich enough to buy another beefy bike AND purchase the preorder. My trip is a long way from mid January.
And is there a better way I can contact you? I'd do close to anything man, even fly all the way to you.
Thank you man.
@@TailHappyTVI wish the wired freedom had a key to operate the bike to slow down thieves
@@No-ju9xzreally I think they just have shipment dates set to mid January
Sorry to say but you have no comprehensive idea about what this bike really is. It is a powerhouse monster made to climb and to go fast and accellerate even on slopes and it is made to eat away rough terrains like none. You consume all the battery quite fast IF you throttle all the way, but not if you just go with pedal assist. I have this thing, the white version, quite modified by myself... a treasure. I think very few bikes can handle mountain and or slope like this one. The size and the weight grant much more stability than those flimsy little one motor only bicicle I see everywhere. Plus... throttle is like NITRO here :-) I'm very happy about this thing.
This bike is tempting!
So this bike is on sale for the same price as the velotric nomad… what would be the better bike?
Great video, thanks.
Anything to save weight would be a bonus
Banger
Been waiting on this one. Love mine!
Out of curiosity, are most of the e-bike people bikers in general? As a skater I never got into biking. Dirt biking sure, but I’d go do trails in Sundance when I was younger. Only to get out of the house. I moved to a small small small small small town less than 50 people. There’s so many ways to go around to the mountains. Can’t wait to explore and have fun in the snow with this. Debating on a battery for just in case, and also debating on buying 2 more tires so I can stud them and go have fun in the frozen lakes :p
im not even getting 20 miles to a charge on mine, ive got 2, the other one gets 25 miles and thats really putting it at the end. ive had the bike about 4 months so idk if philodo will do anything, ive put close to 200 miles on mine and at worst ive gotten 8 miles. at best ive gotten 20. 25 if i use the other philodo bike battery both bought at the same time. wondering if we got a bad batch of batteries. psi is 15-18, weather in the 60's not really windy and not steep hills.
I totally missed the break test what happened?
There was nothing to see. Move along.
I looked at this bike but there is rmtwo much going on with the battery and controller, s on the frame, impressive bike