I bought a cheap 26" Huffy mountain bike for $100 then did a front hub motor replacement. 1000w motor, 48v 13ah battery all together with the bike cost under $500.
How has that much power on the front forks worked out? Most of what I've seen is that steering is questionable until the fork breaks. I love the idea of how easy it is to add some power to the front wheel for a lot less than the SWYTCH Bike and may consider doing it to some old folding bikes, but I have heard bad stories of exceeding 350 Watts up front.
The negative points and experience other shared about the so-called affordable, usually below $600-700, in this video is correct. I have personally experienced practically the lack of post-sale Chinese customer support. And even a local company like San Diego Ride1Up marketing & sale which assembled their assuming better quality e-bikes in China fails to provide with good post-sale customer support. This was reflected in the user’s Reditt comments for more info. Once one has an electrical problem with its new e-bike there is a huge problem of inconvenience dealing w/ company that prizes itself like U.S. All so called U.S. e-bike companies assembled their bikes in China, and they have very limited supply of spare, replacement parts, and since they are “direct-to-customer” online sale the e-bike owner is practically left on his/her own how to deal when encountering an electrical problem. All these even claiming U.S. e-bike companies should have a local for customers network of partner bike shops where e-bike owner can service their expensive e-bikes.
Vivi Foldable, Electric Bike for Adults 20" for $567 including tax and delivery from Amazon or Walmart online, seems like the best deal. Did a lot of research on all these.
Do you own one. I found out unless you actually buy it you have no idea how many surprises you will get. Ordering through Amazon or Walmart is a crap shoot
@@keithdainton6043 what is your height? My understanding over 6’ tall the cockpit of this tiny ebike feels not comfortable and problematic proper leg extension pedaling?
I watched a few Fiido D3 reviews, assuming saw the guy with my height, but it’s really a small cockpit for above 6 ft, otherwise I would have consider this great piece of technology and most importantly - the lighter one around. I’m 76-yr senior still going strong and active but even using p,adtic containers on two wheels, foldable car dog ramp sliding my 60 pound folder is too much hassle. Most of the e-bike video reviews are made by much younger guys and they obviously do not care about the weight much and even ignoring it when recommend ebikes. It’s amazing when they ignore this issue even arbitrary indicating what is the ebike weight frequently misleading the public. So far I watched only one funny mid age guy from L.A. made an effort to demonstrate the e-bikes weight with and without battery. My recent almost new ebike is. 59lbs gross, and 52lbs net weight and still is too much for aging riders.
As you read already the video customers advice, so many affordable e-bike choices is actually not true, very misleading. Since the majority of this video marketed are without post-sale customer support, you’re left on your own facing lower quality, without any local bike store support. Later usually refusing to service your Chinese e-bike with excuse that they service only e-bike brands they sell. And these which they sell are not necessary the best quality, but at least are serviced locally. However these bike stores sold e-bikes are badly over-priced and should be avoided unless you have extra money.
The $999 for the Engwe M20 is if you get two batteries, single is $799. After being in the ebike world for a little while now (not an expert) I would say that for most people this is the kind of bike you're looking for.
Most of these lack one major thing and that's range. They all look like really great bikes, well built and stylish, but the range is a no sale for most. Even if you want a simple just have fun ebike I recommend you take the range in to consideration. In most cases the actual range is generally 40-50% of the claimed range, unless you're pedaling constantly on pedal assist 1. If you're older or less than 5' 8" I also recommend a step through or 20" wheel.
What you shared is true and in the same time not exactly true, sorry. I’m 76-yr senior who already experienced a few e-bikes. Step-over, not foldable and its better counterpart e-bike (step-through and foldable). I had both longer range battery and shorter range battery. Since you claim what is the preferred type for seniors who are not commuting to work every day, I will be more specific - one do not need a heavier battery with more Ah for range like for work commuting. The most important feature for senior e-bikers is the weight of their e-bike and the convenience for storing a foldable e-bike. So, considering a lighter, foldable, step-through e-bike is the right thing to prioritize but it’s not easy to find a good quality and lighter than 60lbs foldable, step-thru e-bike today. One need really to keep in mind the e-bike weight when more deeply selecting without much compromise on quality and most important - a brand with local bike store customer support in order to service your expensive investing. Only very few brands without charging arm and leg can provide you with responsive post-sale local service and support. Keep this in mind.
Keep in mind also when picking Chinese e-bike with no U.S. marketing & sales team, but only U.S. based wearhouse - one of the misleading customers fact is that they purposely claiming certain Wattage hub motor but not specifying whether it’s nominal (sustainable) wattage or only a peak, on demand wattage. Also almost all Chinese assembled e-bikes and sold by their own U.S. located wearhouse are not providing with local post-sale customer support, you are on your own when need replacement of defect electrical part defect and service. Majority of local not authorized bike stores are refusing to service your Chinese e-bike. Check this post-sake service and support before you commit to certain brands e-bikes.
@@kenvik-q5t I'm in my 60's have also had 8 different ebikes so far. I wasn't giving an across the board opinion. I was giving advice based on my experience. The reason I put range as a major factor as well as comfort is that in my area long range is a must. I belong to a bike group all "seniors" and in order for us to get to any enjoyable ranges to ride it's 10 miles out, 10 miles in. The trail we usually run is roughly 26 miles but we usually do the 15 mile run. so that's an additional 30 miles. For us the range without worry is always at the top of our list.
Get at least a Chinese assembled e-bike but with U.S. marketing & sales company distributing them in U.S. like AZ-based Lectric XP 3.0 foldable step-thru, Ride1Up Portola foldable, step-thru, Aipas A2 Elite foldable, step-thru, a very few with a bit more responsive U.S. customer support are available to chose from as you can verify by yourself…
Many of the cheap bikes you recommend are Chinese slap on bikes, meaning the cheapest components with no support in the US. Those bikes are not eco friendly as they will not last and end up in the dump after a year or so. Also when you mention "reviews:" some of those companies do NOT allow negative reviews, so it is not an indicator of value and real feedback.
The hitroad sounds almost exactly like the Oraimo Monster 100 mountain bike. Those 350 brushless bafang motors are great durable and cheap going at least 20mph
Some twist grip "throttles" might as well be a button because they don't have an incremental response. They're basically a switch, on - off, not a potentiometer.
The step through oraimo is not 799.00 it's 449.00. Unless delivery actually cost hundreds of dollars. I have this bike , it takes 3 to 5 hours to charge goes 30 miles on 1 charge and I paid 328.00 for it. I swear every single thing on the internet is misinformation that's why I waited till I saw it in person.
I am concerned about the 20" wheels: they seem like riding a kids bike. I would have preferred something with 29", 28", 27.5" wheels; I'd even settle for 26". My dream bike would come with fenders, rear rack, disc brakes, wide range of gears, and be foldable (if possible). But I just don't want to spend $1,000s on it. I had a hybrid (nice upright position) with 29" wheels but non-electric. I loved the exercisse, but my knees may need some help nowadays on the way back from whichever direction I go; so I need to upgrade to electric.
You are concerned as anybody who never ride 20” wheel. I already had a few 20x3” (better choice than 20x4” or fatter) e-bikes and can confirm, they are not surprising the most popular e-bike segment of today’s market. 20x3” are recommended for adults by e-bike experts as well. One of their plus is that they are almost always foldable and most important - step-through. If you ride back-to-back usual size step-over e-bike and then 20”x3” step-through and foldable you immediately will recognize what many are advising.
Bookmarked for sure! Awesome review. On an unrelated note, I get ads to download Chrome and I'm already watching this on the very same browser. Google, get your sh!t together and stop being sloppy, smdh!
The Isinwheel E-Bike comes with a 350 watt motor. with a 500watt max output. Isinwheel is very misleading with their advertising. They just call it a 500 watt motor, not max output. No mention of it being a 350 watt motor.
Thank you for pointing out the discrepancy in Isinwheel's advertising. It's important for consumers to have accurate information before making a purchase.
You might want to look into this a little more. 36-volt e-bikes can be in the lower 30 lbs weight range, but they only get 10-15 miles of range. While 48-volt ebikes are going to be 45-80 lbs and get longer ranges of 20-40 miles, or more.
I have a Lectric Lite and it is a very weak representation of the sales pitch. I do lots of GHOST PEDALING. It needs gears. I can't pedal fast enough to do 20 mph. I had it for a very short time and get a flat that took the bike out of service for a couple of months. The tires suck. This experience and watching the Lectric people brag does not impress me at all. The lite is something to avoid.
All of these listed only used crappy hub motors, which is only suitable for city use on flat roads. Not a single bike was mentioned with a mid drive, which will allow for hills, and a more streamlined chain or belt option, because it would allow for an internal geared rear hub. Ideally, I would be looking for a cargo frame (optional folding) that utilized a fitted mid drive, with an optional second battery under the rear cargo, an optional front hub motor "primarily for regenerative braking" or emergency power boost, and an even better front option of a dual hub front dual wheel fork.
These junkie bikes will be lucky to last a year. there is no support if you need to replace a part, so your bike is junk if you need a new controller for instance.you then have wasted a $ 1000. for nothing.😝🤑.
Thanks for the heads up on the durability and support of these bikes. I haven't vetted them all, but most do have positive feedback specifically mentioning after purchase customer support. Also, I think you'd be hard pressed to burn out a controller on any of these without heavily modifying it first.
@@Electric-Rideables So basically you are praying and hopping that the controller , battery or motor dont fail, cuz if they do you have just wasted $1000.not a good investment IMAO.
all these ebikes over $700 & cant even reach a max 20mph or 25mph, none of them sound or look like its worth what they charging. kinda silly to me. its ebikes that can reach up 30-35mph pricing at $650-$700.
If you want to enjoy riding ebike you must have 1000w motor it can go downhill uphill easily, a less 1000w motor is just a piece of crap & waste of money, you will end up selling your bike in fb marketplace for a cheaper price
They don’t want people to exercise anymore instead drive take mass transit ride share watch TV read play video games fill up on carbs and watch sports don’t walk unless you have a dog and of course don’t pedal a bike too much exertion ride an e-bike…
You patt yourself on the back saying you did us a solid by showing an Amazon price, yet you failed to tell us how fast bike goes or how far.👎👎👎👎 . I would save that pat on the back my friend.. you’re not telling us shit that we need to know. 🤦♂️
I bought a cheap 26" Huffy mountain bike for $100 then did a front hub motor replacement. 1000w motor, 48v 13ah battery all together with the bike cost under $500.
How has that much power on the front forks worked out? Most of what I've seen is that steering is questionable until the fork breaks. I love the idea of how easy it is to add some power to the front wheel for a lot less than the SWYTCH Bike and may consider doing it to some old folding bikes, but I have heard bad stories of exceeding 350 Watts up front.
@@KevinRoberts949 I put a torque arm on it, it's fine. It only gets up to 1,000w when I'm riding uphill. On flat surfaces, it rarely goes over 400w.
What is the top speed? And top speed handling?
And weights 150 lbs
@@DoyleShadduck Not even close. I have arthritis in my back and can lift this bike with no trouble.
The negative points and experience other shared about the so-called affordable, usually below $600-700, in this video is correct. I have personally experienced practically the lack of post-sale Chinese customer support. And even a local company like San Diego Ride1Up marketing & sale which assembled their assuming better quality e-bikes in China fails to provide with good post-sale customer support. This was reflected in the user’s Reditt comments for more info.
Once one has an electrical problem with its new e-bike there is a huge problem of inconvenience dealing w/ company that prizes itself like U.S. All so called U.S. e-bike companies assembled their bikes in China, and they have very limited supply of spare, replacement parts, and since they are “direct-to-customer” online sale the e-bike owner is practically left on his/her own how to deal when encountering an electrical problem. All these even claiming U.S. e-bike companies should have a local for customers network of partner bike shops where e-bike owner can service their expensive e-bikes.
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Fiido d11 is really great value for money!
I have two and I love em
Vivi Foldable, Electric Bike for Adults 20" for $567 including tax and delivery from Amazon or Walmart online, seems like the best deal. Did a lot of research on all these.
Thanks! 😃
Do you own one. I found out unless you actually buy it you have no idea how many surprises you will get. Ordering through Amazon or Walmart is a crap shoot
Trying to find an extra battery for Vivi bike is really hard to find. The big down fall.
May I get and keep spare battery?
@@randyerickson2154 I've heard, but not verified that amazon generics with the same dimensions work.
Fiido d3 pro is the best value ebike it's a well built lovely little bike I love mine
@@keithdainton6043 what is your height? My understanding over 6’ tall the cockpit of this tiny ebike feels not comfortable and problematic proper leg extension pedaling?
I am 5-10 I find it ok for me I have seen a review with a guy who was 6 - 1 he liked the bike here in the UK it costs £363n can't be beat on price
I watched a few Fiido D3 reviews, assuming saw the guy with my height, but it’s really a small cockpit for above 6 ft, otherwise I would have consider this great piece of technology and most importantly - the lighter one around. I’m 76-yr senior still going strong and active but even using p,adtic containers on two wheels, foldable car dog ramp sliding my 60 pound folder is too much hassle. Most of the e-bike video reviews are made by much younger guys and they obviously do not care about the weight much and even ignoring it when recommend ebikes. It’s amazing when they ignore this issue even arbitrary indicating what is the ebike weight frequently misleading the public. So far I watched only one funny mid age guy from L.A. made an effort to demonstrate the e-bikes weight with and without battery. My recent almost new ebike is. 59lbs gross, and 52lbs net weight and still is too much for aging riders.
I never knew there were so many choices! Just blows my mind. I am glad I already bought an ebike because now I wouldn't know what to pick.
The variety can be overwhelming, but having that ebike ready to go is a great choice!
As you read already the video customers advice, so many affordable e-bike choices is actually not true, very misleading. Since the majority of this video marketed are without post-sale customer support, you’re left on your own facing lower quality, without any local bike store support.
Later usually refusing to service your Chinese e-bike with excuse that they service only e-bike brands they sell. And these which they sell are not necessary the best quality, but at least are serviced locally. However these bike stores sold e-bikes are badly over-priced and should be avoided unless you have extra money.
The $999 for the Engwe M20 is if you get two batteries, single is $799. After being in the ebike world for a little while now (not an expert) I would say that for most people this is the kind of bike you're looking for.
Thanks for sharing that information about the pricing and your thoughts on the Engwe M20!
misleading good chunk of these bikes have expensive delivery fee which negates the "budget " factor
lol 500 is entry
What’s the shipping cost of the $500 entry?
I paid $200 delivery fee, $1850 total but it’s worth it.
@@JShawnPaul2 types of people want an e bike old rich people and broke people
it seems to me the ones making these videos dont know what "affordable" means
Also the Oraimo is a Japanese bike and doesn't have replacement parts but can be fixed using German parts if run over by a truck.
Where is the battery located in that orange bike you showed
Can you please list the bikes & prices.
I'm not sure how many are available in 🇬🇧
Thanks
Yes. Please check out some of my newer content.
Most of these lack one major thing and that's range. They all look like really great bikes, well built and stylish, but the range is a no sale for most. Even if you want a simple just have fun ebike I recommend you take the range in to consideration. In most cases the actual range is generally 40-50% of the claimed range, unless you're pedaling constantly on pedal assist 1. If you're older or less than 5' 8" I also recommend a step through or 20" wheel.
Range is definitely a crucial factor to consider when choosing an ebike. Thanks for highlighting that important point!
What you shared is true and in the same time not exactly true, sorry. I’m 76-yr senior who already experienced a few e-bikes. Step-over, not foldable and its better counterpart e-bike (step-through and foldable). I had both longer range battery and shorter range battery. Since you claim what is the preferred type for seniors who are not commuting to work every day, I will be more specific - one do not need a heavier battery with more Ah for range like for work commuting.
The most important feature for senior e-bikers is the weight of their e-bike and the convenience for storing a foldable e-bike. So, considering a lighter, foldable, step-through e-bike is the right thing to prioritize but it’s not easy to find a good quality and lighter than 60lbs foldable, step-thru e-bike today.
One need really to keep in mind the e-bike weight when more deeply selecting without much compromise on quality and most important - a brand with local bike store customer support in order to service your expensive investing. Only very few brands without charging arm and leg can provide you with responsive post-sale local service and support. Keep this in mind.
Keep in mind also when picking Chinese e-bike with no U.S. marketing & sales team, but only U.S. based wearhouse - one of the misleading customers fact is that they purposely claiming certain Wattage hub motor but not specifying whether it’s nominal (sustainable) wattage or only a peak, on demand wattage.
Also almost all Chinese assembled e-bikes and sold by their own U.S. located wearhouse are not providing with local post-sale customer support, you are on your own when need replacement of defect electrical part defect and service. Majority of local not authorized bike stores are refusing to service your Chinese e-bike. Check this post-sake service and support before you commit to certain brands e-bikes.
@@kenvik-q5t I'm in my 60's have also had 8 different ebikes so far. I wasn't giving an across the board opinion. I was giving advice based on my experience.
The reason I put range as a major factor as well as comfort is that in my area long range is a must. I belong to a bike group all "seniors" and in order for us to get to any enjoyable ranges to ride it's 10 miles out, 10 miles in. The trail we usually run is roughly 26 miles but we usually do the 15 mile run. so that's an additional 30 miles.
For us the range without worry is always at the top of our list.
Great for hauling Bud around your neighborhood! Did i hear that right?! electric xp light it is!
Okay okay now tell me which one to choose? I want a foldable modern looking long range E-bike for everyday delivery!
Same plus for transportation as I have a main job to get to regularly
Get at least a Chinese assembled e-bike but with U.S. marketing & sales company distributing them in U.S. like AZ-based Lectric XP 3.0 foldable step-thru, Ride1Up Portola foldable, step-thru, Aipas A2 Elite foldable, step-thru, a very few with a bit more responsive U.S. customer support are available to chose from as you can verify by yourself…
Many of the cheap bikes you recommend are Chinese slap on bikes, meaning the cheapest components with no support in the US. Those bikes are not eco friendly as they will not last and end up in the dump after a year or so. Also when you mention "reviews:" some of those companies do NOT allow negative reviews, so it is not an indicator of value and real feedback.
Thanks for sharing your perspective on the durability and support of these bikes.
@@Electric-Rideables Good to know the difference between cheap or inexpensive IMO.
The Ride1up brand is one of the brands that represents quality, I do not know all the others..
IPhones are made in China so...
The hitroad sounds almost exactly like the Oraimo Monster 100 mountain bike. Those 350 brushless bafang motors are great durable and cheap going at least 20mph
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$269 !!! The Isinwheel M10 is $799+ up here in Canada.
Im gonna avoid twist grip throttles i think because i workout weird, seems problematic, whats your favorite ebike for the buck?
Jasion EB7
I own one .decent bike.but still want a 2000w ebike
Some twist grip "throttles" might as well be a button because they don't have an incremental response. They're basically a switch, on - off, not a potentiometer.
The step through oraimo is not 799.00 it's 449.00. Unless delivery actually cost hundreds of dollars. I have this bike , it takes 3 to 5 hours to charge goes 30 miles on 1 charge and I paid 328.00 for it. I swear every single thing on the internet is misinformation that's why I waited till I saw it in person.
Where did you get it for $328 please?
I looked up one bike Velvowave is emphatically not 369.00 it is 599...
What bike is that in the thumbnail?
The IsinWheel M10 is no longer available at the price listed in this video.
thanks for the update! yeah these prices do change. check out some of my newer content!
Fovoto ebikes?
Second. I'm gonna bookmark it. My fav is the Jasion.
Second is the new first, right? Jasion is definitely a fan favorite!
I am concerned about the 20" wheels: they seem like riding a kids bike. I would have preferred something with 29", 28", 27.5" wheels; I'd even settle for 26". My dream bike would come with fenders, rear rack, disc brakes, wide range of gears, and be foldable (if possible). But I just don't want to spend $1,000s on it. I had a hybrid (nice upright position) with 29" wheels but non-electric. I loved the exercisse, but my knees may need some help nowadays on the way back from whichever direction I go; so I need to upgrade to electric.
You are concerned as anybody who never ride 20” wheel. I already had a few 20x3” (better choice than 20x4” or fatter) e-bikes and can confirm, they are not surprising the most popular e-bike segment of today’s market. 20x3” are recommended for adults by e-bike experts as well.
One of their plus is that they are almost always foldable and most important - step-through. If you ride back-to-back usual size step-over e-bike and then 20”x3” step-through and foldable you immediately will recognize what many are advising.
Bookmarked for sure! Awesome review. On an unrelated note, I get ads to download Chrome and I'm already watching this on the very same browser. Google, get your sh!t together and stop being sloppy, smdh!
stop blowing it Google
these are not cost friendly
The Isinwheel E-Bike comes with a 350 watt motor. with a 500watt max output. Isinwheel is very misleading with their advertising. They just call it a 500 watt motor, not max output. No mention of it being a 350 watt motor.
Thank you for pointing out the discrepancy in Isinwheel's advertising. It's important for consumers to have accurate information before making a purchase.
46 pound eBike is a boat anchor, when many major bike manufactures have 24/26 pound electric bikes...
You might want to look into this a little more. 36-volt e-bikes can be in the lower 30 lbs weight range, but they only get 10-15 miles of range. While 48-volt ebikes are going to be 45-80 lbs and get longer ranges of 20-40 miles, or more.
The actbest core is only 350watt 500 peak. I know because my wife has one.
I thought you couldn't have an AI TH-cam channel. This video was written and narrated by AI
I have a Lectric Lite and it is a very weak representation of the sales pitch. I do lots of GHOST PEDALING. It needs gears. I can't pedal fast enough to do 20 mph. I had it for a very short time and get a flat that took the bike out of service for a couple of months. The tires suck. This experience and watching the Lectric people brag does not impress me at all. The lite is something to avoid.
Has anyone had experience with huffy bikes
Fat tyres= increased rolling resistance= range redution. Suspension fork= absorbtion of forward momentum= range reduction😢
Thanks for pointing out the impact of fat tires and suspension forks on range reduction!
Totguard. Is a damn good ceap bike!
All of these listed only used crappy hub motors, which is only suitable for city use on flat roads. Not a single bike was mentioned with a mid drive, which will allow for hills, and a more streamlined chain or belt option, because it would allow for an internal geared rear hub.
Ideally, I would be looking for a cargo frame (optional folding) that utilized a fitted mid drive, with an optional second battery under the rear cargo, an optional front hub motor "primarily for regenerative braking" or emergency power boost, and an even better front option of a dual hub front dual wheel fork.
Ebikes are only a piece of shit as if you go out in any rain it will kill the battery. What a waste of money
Bull!
Best bargain I've found: Vivi FM20. $520 delivered.
WHERE ARE THE BUDGET BELT DRIVEN ELECTRIC
Looks like an industry-paid infomercial.
If only I were getting paid for this!
Your list is lame 🤦♂️ for $899 you can get twin motors front and back 2000 power , and you show us this cheap stuff. Fail……
I appreciate your feedback and will consider including higher-end options in future videos.
U are to nice electric
These junkie bikes will be lucky to last a year. there is no support if you need to replace a part, so your bike is junk if you need a new controller for instance.you then have wasted a $ 1000. for nothing.😝🤑.
Thanks for the heads up on the durability and support of these bikes. I haven't vetted them all, but most do have positive feedback specifically mentioning after purchase customer support. Also, I think you'd be hard pressed to burn out a controller on any of these without heavily modifying it first.
@@Electric-Rideables So basically you are praying and hopping that the controller , battery or motor dont fail, cuz if they do you have just wasted $1000.not a good investment IMAO.
Rad bikes have the same thing. I have a friend that works there, first hand news
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Awesome!
all these ebikes over $700 & cant even reach a max 20mph or 25mph, none of them sound or look like its worth what they charging. kinda silly to me. its ebikes that can reach up 30-35mph pricing at $650-$700.
If you want to enjoy riding ebike you must have 1000w motor it can go downhill uphill easily, a less 1000w motor is just a piece of crap & waste of money, you will end up selling your bike in fb marketplace for a cheaper price
e-rydez
These aren't budget.
They don’t want people to exercise anymore instead drive take mass transit ride share watch TV read play video games fill up on carbs and watch sports don’t walk unless you have a dog and of course don’t pedal a bike too much exertion ride an e-bike…
You patt yourself on the back saying you did us a solid by showing an Amazon price, yet you failed to tell us how fast bike goes or how far.👎👎👎👎 . I would save that pat on the back my friend.. you’re not telling us shit that we need to know. 🤦♂️
I wouldn’t be caught dead on any of those e-bikes, especially the short wheeled ones they look corny af.
who says corny in 2024?