What's the Best First Track Car? (Grip Driving)

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ธ.ค. 2024

ความคิดเห็น • 853

  • @midnight_drive_media6056
    @midnight_drive_media6056 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1591

    Man says the honda scene isn't always "adult", proceeds to open up his lambo door.

    • @xThundersZ
      @xThundersZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @kseriesdan9722
      @kseriesdan9722 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Haha I thought the same

    • @DeViceCrimsin_
      @DeViceCrimsin_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      That was priceless

    • @JDMEXforme
      @JDMEXforme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Lmaoo

    • @AjJabaay
      @AjJabaay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      It's my favorite joke

  • @250hdd
    @250hdd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +508

    Honda Fit definitely earned the honorable mention. Cheap, reliable, great handling, and fun to toss through corners.

    • @jamesborek8125
      @jamesborek8125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I love my Fit as a DD, what a hoot.
      G&G please cover some Fits!

    • @BitcoinTo150K
      @BitcoinTo150K 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesborek8125 yes

    • @codytheasian4799
      @codytheasian4799 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Especially if you throw a k20 or k24

    • @frankenelimtangco2400
      @frankenelimtangco2400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely true! 👌🏻

    • @Kuhlgelblitz
      @Kuhlgelblitz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Bought a 2008 Honda Fit Sport 5MT last year. Currently have it set up for AutoX. They are a blast to drive. They are basically an updated version of the EG/EK civics, but with 5 doors. The Stock 1.5L motor isn't terrible. Incredibly realiable and great MPG. Like most Honda's you can free up a little HP with an intake, exhaust and a tune. The GD3 uses a lot of brake parts from the 90's civics. It's rather easy to buy and swap a K24 into a Fit. Bunch of options for Coilovers. Progress Group makes a killer rear sway bar. Wheel and tire combos are endless. Chassis stiffening options are endless. Just like the 90's civics there's tons of cheap parts to throw at the car to make it better.

  • @jmedina5207
    @jmedina5207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +915

    When i watch gears and gasoline i feel like I’m watching a movie

    • @Bluebeast2005
      @Bluebeast2005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I know! I agree, they are one of the best YT channels for automotive fun!

    • @HarshJadhav12
      @HarshJadhav12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      it feels like a movie because this is movie grade filming in my opinion. Even the quality goes as high as 4K. They only spend big money on two things, their cars and the shooting equipment.

    • @capyfanvok
      @capyfanvok 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Amount of quality that's in these videos is fucking crazy

    • @aliefalikhan8263
      @aliefalikhan8263 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Strongly agree

    • @dongambino7921
      @dongambino7921 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      These are more like automotive documentaries ya know

  • @Jlemus01
    @Jlemus01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +391

    In my opinion Is better to drive a slow car fast, especially if you're in the process of learning get something cheap and affordable to fix.

    • @tony_5156
      @tony_5156 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Slow and steady and then you can become Schumacher later on

    • @AmirPomen
      @AmirPomen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thats where honda create its fame

    • @30musabboouf61
      @30musabboouf61 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      고등 지능 ODINS trash Thanks for the motivation ☺️

    • @fransiscoh9450
      @fransiscoh9450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah for sure and it’s so fun carrying all that speed through a corner so you won’t loose it makes you connect with the road

    • @thomasduffyjr
      @thomasduffyjr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So a Miata

  • @TheDaemon66
    @TheDaemon66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +629

    The best first track car is anything with zero power and requires momentum to be fast. That’s how you learn to drive properly and with precision.

    • @TheOGtyler
      @TheOGtyler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Well said man! A great way to start is from the bottom. Learn the basics and work your way up

    • @brysondean6707
      @brysondean6707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      You would also want a car without a ton of grip, since you would start to learn bad habits from a huge amount of grip and no power

    • @Bigdoghirohito
      @Bigdoghirohito 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hell you can use anything for the track then build up to better cars

    • @JustusKuroVT
      @JustusKuroVT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      The best track car is a reliable one, because if it keeps braking down, youll have less chances to drive and race it around a track. And the main reason why youd wanna race around a track in the first place is to experience it.

    • @carloscrod_
      @carloscrod_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Reason why I have a 2006 corolla XRS lol. Once I get better I’ll save to get a frs or S2k.

  • @TheCarPassionChannel
    @TheCarPassionChannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +296

    Stoked to see the E36/E46 chassis on the list. The only little budget vs. performance fact I'd add is that the M54 (E46 330i/330Ci engine) makes essentially as much power as the E36 M3, making the E46 330 just as good, or even an M54 swapped E36. Great power without the additional maintenance/worries of the S engine. I daily drive a 5-speed 330Ci and I feel they're so underestimated overall.

    • @ghostpunkkilla
      @ghostpunkkilla 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Was reading this comment and agreeing before noticing it was you Greg!

    • @ryancallahan4347
      @ryancallahan4347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      If only the 330ci came with a factory LSD it would be the best option

    • @danielsdayoff
      @danielsdayoff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The nice thing about the US S50/S52 is they're just slightly modified M50/M52s. I have an OBD1 S52 build and it's incredibly reliable. Loads of torque and power :)

    • @lukeclark3623
      @lukeclark3623 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ghostpunkkilla lmao me

    • @themonkeydoo3
      @themonkeydoo3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's what I have been told as well, in addition (as long as the cage is up to spec) you could sell it as a starter Spec E46 chassis

  • @DeViceCrimsin_
    @DeViceCrimsin_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +338

    Green s2k guy had the real answer. Point blank period. Edit: Miata guy had a good tip too to supplement s2k guy.

    • @PedroMarques
      @PedroMarques 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fwd seems like the right choice either way

    • @impreza0109
      @impreza0109 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PedroMarques if you want to understeer facefirst into the barriers, sure.

    • @matthewgiang8400
      @matthewgiang8400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@impreza0109 learn to drive and you can correct understeer

    • @impreza0109
      @impreza0109 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@matthewgiang8400 there's no correcting physics, bud

    • @matthewgiang8400
      @matthewgiang8400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@impreza0109 you just turn in and let off throttle mabey brake a bit

  • @timephire
    @timephire 4 ปีที่แล้ว +530

    Is this a trick question? Isn't Miata always the answer or was I lied too all this time?! (Keep up the great work guys)

    • @clayduval1255
      @clayduval1255 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Miata Is Always The Answer

    • @222-d3h
      @222-d3h 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Clay DuVal indeed

    • @viccyyboii3308
      @viccyyboii3308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      With a miata you dont even need to brake

    • @MrDaxrowden
      @MrDaxrowden 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      For the price..... If you can step up to the boxster S you wont regret it.

    • @nathanskinner423
      @nathanskinner423 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@MrDaxrowden I think you will when you have to do a head gasket.

  • @spencersgarage
    @spencersgarage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    My first track car is my 1991 Honda Civic DX. Totally stock engine besides a DC sports header, test pipe, and a mild full suspension rebuild. Once this COVID-19 blows over I plan to do my first track day. My Civic is also my 38.5+ MPG , 100 miles a day daily driver.

    • @TheOGtyler
      @TheOGtyler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have an '03 civic Ex 2 door bone stock and I was planning on heading to my first track day too! Good luck bro!

    • @spencersgarage
      @spencersgarage 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ty Mcnee thanks man! Just looking to have some fun

    • @Rockit181
      @Rockit181 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      sounds like a perfect first track car, just make sure the brakes are up to the challenge. Higher temp brake pads and at least fresh brake fluid (if not higher temp rating) are most important.

    • @spencersgarage
      @spencersgarage 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rockit181 yep! Already redid all of the brakes - New calipers, rotors, drums, wheel cylinders, hardware, master cylinder, hardware, SS brake lines... everything. New wheel bearings all around. All new suspension. I’ve been slowly prepping this car for a track day for the past ten months. Should be pretty fun/interesting. Once I go, I’ll do some Go Pro videos on it.

    • @KookiDowg
      @KookiDowg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hell yeah I'm in the same boat! Although, I have a heavy Prelude but I could care less. It just means I have to be really good with the fundamentals to keep up

  • @josephrainey5535
    @josephrainey5535 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    S2000 owner here who started tracking regularly just over a year ago. We go every 1-2 weeks so thankfully seat time has not been a problem. Started in a Porsche Cayman S, moved to a C7 Grandsport, then a ZL1 1LE, and now the S2K. The 6 months so far with the S2K have done more to develop me as a driver than any of the other cars by far. It’s easy to go fast in a fast car. It’s another thing to have to drive a slower car fast. Anyways, could not recommend an S2000 highly enough to anyone looking for a first track car.

    • @Zeriel00
      @Zeriel00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol silver spoon racer over here, I doubt most first drivers have 20K+ on the bank

    • @willywillington9252
      @willywillington9252 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Zeriel00 I can sense the jealously in this comment...

    • @evanescent0311
      @evanescent0311 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@willywillington9252cheapest car on the list by far. it’s a weird flex.

  • @nevoyu
    @nevoyu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    There's never a good time to go tracking, besides next weekend." So true as I get ready for the noon sprint race we're doing in a 2002 Toyota Corolla track car.

    • @mannydrives
      @mannydrives 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve been considering an 02 to track with. I just can find info on swapping out the rear shoes for discs. What’s your rear brake setup?

    • @slowvag8v
      @slowvag8v 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mannydrives I think you can use rear disc brake from celica

    • @hemiplow1297
      @hemiplow1297 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those gen Corollas are so fun to Chuck around the corners downhills especially when you smoke higher power cars like wrx and bmws the newer corollas have a shitty chassis and is bloated

  • @buddahae86
    @buddahae86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    What that last guy said is so true, get out there and give it a crack. Don’t be the person that’s constantly doing that next modification before the cars “ready” for the track. All you’re doing is eating into seat time. Have the essentials done, brakes/tires/safety/fluids and go turn some laps.

    • @deathisfreedom1442
      @deathisfreedom1442 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Im one of those persons. I got a 99 e46 328ci with 105k miles on it. bilstein suspension, 235 front, 255 rear michelin tires. drives like it was on rails but im just too worried that the engine cant handle 5 minutes of constant 3-6k rpm. like its too big of a risk for me to take since its my only car. id love to go on the track, thats what im building this car for after all but at the same time i wamma keep it for a long time, so im not comfortable with putting that much stress on a high mileage m52

    • @iNinjeek
      @iNinjeek 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you forgot a working engine ;___;)

    • @tommytenzo
      @tommytenzo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Death Is Freedom I have a mint e46 touring and having the same feeling. Think I’ll buy a beater civic for the track

    • @deathisfreedom1442
      @deathisfreedom1442 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tommytenzo i thought about that too, but first of all i want a rwd car for the track and 2ndly i dont have either the space or the money for a 2nd car...

  • @milesdean8802
    @milesdean8802 4 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    What I’ve gotten out of this is that I can and should race the family minivan.

    • @lordoftherims436
      @lordoftherims436 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Honda oddyssey

    • @Bearnos
      @Bearnos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lordoftherims436 Odysseys are suprisingly quick lol

    • @lordoftherims436
      @lordoftherims436 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bearnos fuck yeah. All the bogans in my country new zealand street race them

    • @alekonicolacakis7002
      @alekonicolacakis7002 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bearnos for what they are theyre pretty nimble ngl

  • @mhpchan
    @mhpchan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Wow - the guy that talked about s2k and Miata did an amazing job. I keep telling my friends how there’s never the “right” time or “right” car/setup. They just need to go do it. But those guys really hit those points well! Well done!

  • @sirniko126
    @sirniko126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    If you are in the U.S.A. I would put up the SN95 and Foxbody on this list. You can get a good example for track use easily around $5k or less and just clean examples in general for less than $10k. Parts are beyond cheap and availability is everywhere. You get cheap power and you can put ALOT of tire under the car if you want. The Foxbody in particular is a very compact package that can grip like crazy with the proper setup. As they are over 25 years old I can mod them without having to worry about anything other than a safety inspection (seatbelts, lights, signals, wipers, horn, structural integrity). This is also personal preference as sound is subjective but I wouldn't give up my flowmaster 40s and H-pipe setup for anything. I would like to compare it to the C8 corvette I ordered if that ever arrives (thanks C7 production, UAW strike and the present pandemic...)

    • @minigungaming5915
      @minigungaming5915 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      An important asterisk with any pre-S550 Mustang is the solid axle rear suspension, they will drive very differently to a non solid axle car

  • @ruthlesson-site
    @ruthlesson-site 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    One of the most underated car channels out there

  • @amgadmedhat6211
    @amgadmedhat6211 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Gears and Gasoline deserves more than that they have the quality the content and info. I love watching them.

  • @thatonebeone
    @thatonebeone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    5:32 NAILED IT!!! track time is the best mod... dont matter what car you are in fwd / rwd whatever suits your style, track time is what makes you a good driver

  • @Osprey1994
    @Osprey1994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Honda S2000 is a great car but it's incredibly hard to get, and it's getting more expensive every year.
    Update: Checked local listings today and we are now consistently above 20k in my area. I found one that is cosmetically rough with 87k and an absolutely fucked top for 13k but it claimed it was garaged for it's entire life... So already off to a bad start with that one.

    • @Love2Cruise
      @Love2Cruise 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well if you are going to track it.... one thing they didn’t mention in this video is how track driving ruins your paint. Rocks, sand, rubber all get thrown onto your bumper, hood and windshield. So if you’re looking for a track car, I suggest putting more emphasis on car’s mechanical condition rather than cosmetic.
      I track my S2000. The soft top has rips inside. Front left fender has a small bend when tire was caught on the lip when I went off the track a few years back. The hood has many paint chips from rocks on track. Windshield is chipped too, again from a rock on track. Cosmetically, it’s at best a 5 out of 10. Mechanically? I’d take it to a track day this weekend in a heartbeat.

    • @swastikgrover3414
      @swastikgrover3414 ปีที่แล้ว

      where do you check local listing

  • @dbracing7228
    @dbracing7228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    I hear Honda Fit, I raise you Suzuki Swift Sport for fun driving

    • @250hdd
      @250hdd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Swift is a great car but we don't get them in the states.

    • @AllTheBoost
      @AllTheBoost 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Got all the way to the s2k then stoped watching. I already knew the Miata was gunna be first

    • @dbracing7228
      @dbracing7228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@250hdd sucks to hear that, there's plenty of them here in europe. To be fair, the Fit is a really good compromise instead of the Swift in this case

    • @vincentian9158
      @vincentian9158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bruhh are you subscribed to HotVersion? They literally just uploaded a vid about those 2 lol

    • @koksvikj
      @koksvikj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I have a Geo Metro, that's the closest we have to the Swift here.

  • @The_Professional_Hobbiest
    @The_Professional_Hobbiest 4 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    Honda civic cheap and inexpensive,
    Ben "this is how i spent 30k on my civic

    • @kseriesdan9722
      @kseriesdan9722 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      But 30k on a track car is nothing. Compared to some and what he spent on getting it track ready. He make up in reliability and lack of wear

    • @donderbassie
      @donderbassie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      In the video he said he couldve done it for 5K, but he wanted to get every little hp out of the engine so he got very expensive parts

    • @DuBstep115
      @DuBstep115 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kseriesdan9722 30k on a fucking civic in amateur series is a lot. People race every mans class here and winning car was made on 10k budged.

    • @BigB848484
      @BigB848484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, but that is because he got sponsored by K-tuned. First of all K-tuned is really high quality and because of that really expensive. Secondly, that car is basically a complete, finished build. No one really gets a car and does all those mods and stuff to it to get it track ready. The truth is, you can go and buy a civic in decent shape for 1000$ put better suspension and breaks on it and you can take it out on the track and it will be a lot of fun. Of course if you want to, you can go all-out and do all these crazy mods, but its not necessary.

  • @VladooDIY
    @VladooDIY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My first track car here in france was a miata nc and now I enjoy my 86 !

  • @kingali1606
    @kingali1606 4 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    It seems like the Honda Civic just takes the cake for the all-around best vehicle

    • @adrianwilson725
      @adrianwilson725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Best in the game bud

    • @tarcioanold
      @tarcioanold 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That's true, which makes people be like "i ain't getting a civic, its too obvious", well im getting one

    • @adrianwilson725
      @adrianwilson725 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tarcioanold I've never felt so accomplished. I'm glad I bought mine! Plus i can't wait to make it into what it was meant to be!

    • @armoule8596
      @armoule8596 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tarcioanold these guys are keeping the prices low, all good !

    • @ItsCalledAMotorRaceToto
      @ItsCalledAMotorRaceToto 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahahajahahahahaha

  • @itsgerry1234
    @itsgerry1234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    2:38 cost from 1$ -5000$ hahahahjahahahahaha

    • @ktunedcrx
      @ktunedcrx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hes using USD examples but yeah 5k is cheap for those

    • @kaino2470
      @kaino2470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      $1000-$5000 not $1 ya spud

    • @k3tchup687
      @k3tchup687 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@kaino2470 the video says 1$

    • @DeViceCrimsin_
      @DeViceCrimsin_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@kaino2470 Lol, use the time stamp he gave you before making an ass of yourself. It indeed says $1.00, sir.

    • @DeViceCrimsin_
      @DeViceCrimsin_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol, nice catch

  • @nathanlittle9873
    @nathanlittle9873 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    M - miata
    I- is
    A- always
    T - the
    A - anwser

  • @monochrome_linux
    @monochrome_linux 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to be a person who would analyse a thumbnail and the title for minutes before watching a video. But now, if i see the gears and gasoline logo, I click play without any second thought. Thats how much I like you guys and your content

  • @bmnp
    @bmnp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The amount of knowledge this video throws at you gives me goosebumps! Thank you for making such an amazing video. I love it. May have watched it 10+ times, and works for me as a reference to come back and recall important points

  • @erniefigueroa20
    @erniefigueroa20 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Now I want to go tracking with my mother’s Odyssey...

  • @adrianarteaga6275
    @adrianarteaga6275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    S2000 family where we all at!? Love my s2k❤️

    • @yermailmain206
      @yermailmain206 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ap1 FTW

    • @kingJim4
      @kingJim4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      AP2 checking in

    • @isaiyas
      @isaiyas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      AP1 fam here :)

    • @Kayin520
      @Kayin520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ap1 here!!!

    • @eyeswideopen5562
      @eyeswideopen5562 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      AP1 with OEM no air conditioning FTW

  • @bobkermit3452
    @bobkermit3452 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    MR2 Spyder. Insane handling, decent power/weight, 2000s Toyota reliability, solid 5 speed manual, and the 2ZZ swap is affordable which turns it into a poor man’s Elise. Great video!

    • @FooMeister
      @FooMeister 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hard fail if you don't have a hard top or roll cage, I can't imagine a swapped engine being ideal for a first track car and limited space for tools or spare tires.

    • @anonymouscat5516
      @anonymouscat5516 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      your a future predictor good sir

    • @David-nb2bc
      @David-nb2bc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The biggest problem with those car is because they are convertibles. I know you can add hard top but it doesnt really add much chassis stiffness as a non convertible.

  • @Icemann336
    @Icemann336 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    MR2s appear to be pretty good for track driving too. Haven't tracked my SW20 yet, but they look to be good fun to send it around the track, regardless what people say about snap oversteer.

    • @toddjudd8657
      @toddjudd8657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You just have to be mindful it's not a go kart when driving it

  • @FallenJustice
    @FallenJustice 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For me, its the 86 platform. Affordable and more accessible than the cars mentioned. Not to mention you can get one new if you wanted to. You don't really see any miatas or s2000s for sale in the province I live.

  • @Rockit181
    @Rockit181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've had or currently have all of these on the list, and have put them on track. This is pretty much my list of recommendations too, but not including the E46 as a top recommendation though (my top priorities being purchase price and cost to run). E46 is heavier, more effort to maintain than the E36, so I recommend the E36 (non-M even better for a beginner, cheaper). Some folks that have less experience are better off starting with a FWD instead of a RWD. FWD Hondas are great for that. The S2000 is too much a handful at the limit for beginners to RWD layouts, but will definitely sharpen you as an intermediate to advanced driver. Think you can handle RWD but haven't tracked a RWD before and want to? a non-M E36 or Miata are very forgiving for RWD. I just happen to have a FWD Civic right now but I think I want to move back into a Miata. Simplicity, reliability, and low running cost make for the best track cars!!

  • @meierb75
    @meierb75 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:05 Agree. At one time I was getting back into cars. I had three cars that were disabled, a pickup, and a Prius. So I slapped on some older Potenza S-03 PolePosition tires and and took it to the track. I am proud to say I wasn’t the slowest car that day. And it was a good tool for allowing me to perfect a lap.

  • @sdlausen1
    @sdlausen1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I live in the south. Every track day is just filled with high powered muscle cars, Porsche's, and the like overtaking you every second. No fun at all if you're in a low HP car like an s2000. The variety of cars seems to be great and more fun up North. It's terrible down here.

    • @Knockthefout
      @Knockthefout 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is canada good in car scene and car culture bro???

  • @touringteg
    @touringteg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Solid list. I enjoy tracking my Integra Type R. I would say Fiesta ST is an honourable mention.

  • @AngySumo
    @AngySumo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I live 20mins from that track and absolutely love it! I just discovered this channel but can't wait to watch more 🤙

  • @Tanstin1
    @Tanstin1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Miata is NOT always the answer.
    What if I don't want to drive a 20 year old convertible with 130,000 miles? The 86/BRZ is a hugely underrated platform for entry-level track cars. Probably the closest in feel next to the miata and unlike the miata, I can actually fit 4 wheels and tires in the back for track days. On that same token, 350z's and GTI's are great options for people who do want something affordable, but also newer.

    • @TheOGtyler
      @TheOGtyler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm in love with the BRZ / 86 Platform it was always meant to be a "drivers car" just like the Miata but that price tag is still too much for me. I also think if you skip out on owning an older car first then you miss out on learning from alot of the mechanical issues you'd have to deal with that you just won't have to deal with as much in a newer car :) (which would help you with future race cars)

  • @adrian2433
    @adrian2433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Good luck finding an S2000 under 20k € on Europe

    • @philspaghet
      @philspaghet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can in the US and Canada ;)

    • @antoniosousa8145
      @antoniosousa8145 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In Portugal 25k €

    • @mehdidamfs3112
      @mehdidamfs3112 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      North africa 😭😭😭😭

    • @xerrio4
      @xerrio4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In France, it is so expansive to buy a good car. Fortunately some of them go under the radar and I got myself a nice MX3 for 2500€ but with maintenance to do on it afterwards. Parts are also lacking more and more on the market...
      Nha, some places in the world just ignore what it is to have dreams as a young man and are just ruled by old farts stuffed of money expecting you to buy the last car out matching emition norms...

    • @maksor2785
      @maksor2785 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought mine for 18K in the Netherlands. It's mint condition

  • @vtectroy1073
    @vtectroy1073 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING 1988-1991 CIVICS everyone always forgets about the ef💕

  • @tkskagen
    @tkskagen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I was "AMLOST" expecting a FOX Body early Mustang on this list (if it was Top 10)...

    • @turnip5465
      @turnip5465 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ..a fox body for a track car?

    • @erikmiles5536
      @erikmiles5536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Come to think of it I don't remember having seen any of the 80s-90s muscle cars referenced in any of the grid life series. I often wonder if certain racing series some how end up biased against certain cars.

    • @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo
      @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a dogshit chassis... Ask Matt Farah.......

    • @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo
      @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@erikmiles5536 because those cars from that era.... Don't like to turn.......

    • @Vision33r
      @Vision33r 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those are only good for straight line and nothing else. Once you look at the suspension setup underneath, it's worse than any of those cars mentioned.

  • @the1anonymouse
    @the1anonymouse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Same thing I say when wanting to get into anything. The best time to start was a year ago but the 2nd best time is today

  • @maverick2242
    @maverick2242 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe a bit more modern expensive compared to the list but I’d add the BRZ on that list, great advice from these guys too, esp drive what ya got, brakes and tires safety first, speed comes later when ya know what you are doing , with great power comes great responsibility, you need to unlearn what you think you have learned..why you don’t want to learn in a high HP car, it will hinder your progress and develop bad habits, drive what ya brung and have fun, but that white Civic love it, my choice out of this lot easy choice. nice vid guys🤙

  • @ryanle1293
    @ryanle1293 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will always recommend the C4 Corvette for a first track car. Wide tires/wheels, independent suspension (although weird how) power and handling all for a few thousand bucks

  • @erickpina8802
    @erickpina8802 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gears and gasoline is probably the only car channel to excite me enough to play their videos on the tv screen rather than my phone

  • @hakongussiasjohnsbraten3484
    @hakongussiasjohnsbraten3484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just love how the Honda S2000 looks and handles. I want one of those

  • @spannersautocomputerrepair7528
    @spannersautocomputerrepair7528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Porsche Boxster - mid engine rear wheel drive with very balanced driving feel. Excellent brakes and smooth 6 cylinder power that is decent.

  • @JDMEXforme
    @JDMEXforme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    EF hatch, EG hatch, EK hatch, DC2, DC5, Honda Fit, B swap, K swap, H swap. Miata all gens. S2000. EVO and Ralliarts. BMW E36/46, WRX/STi all gens. Focus ST, Focus RS, Fiesta ST. FRS/GT86. Toyota MRS with Kswap. List goes on.

  • @Driven-Productions
    @Driven-Productions 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this! Bought a Mazdaspeed mostly built finishing the car this month and two track days scheduled so far. 🤙

  • @daileydose2083
    @daileydose2083 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see Gears and Gasoline upload, I drop everything and pay attention to this knowledge I am receiving. fantastic editing and content!

  • @arphmd
    @arphmd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For me as Malaysian just choose any Proton-MMC generation models, especially Saga 1.3S which is $200 in sale. The aftermarket parts is always there. Fix the car, join MSF event in Sepang, and then already a racer on track.

  • @gabrielash9433
    @gabrielash9433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An additional advantage of the e36/46 is that it’s much easier for larger people to fit in them. I’m 6’1 ~200 lbs and just don’t fit in a Miata. In my e46 I have room to spare, a couple inches between my helmet and the roof. Just something to consider. Just make sure you’ve done the subframe reinforcement on an e46!

    • @BitcoinTo150K
      @BitcoinTo150K 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I need show you guys that say that I'm 6'3 175lbs and fit in both my Miata and s2000 I don't get it lol

    • @gabrielash9433
      @gabrielash9433 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chris Smith I can fit in my buddy’s no with a dropped floor pan but it’s far from comfortable

    • @BitcoinTo150K
      @BitcoinTo150K 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gabrielash9433 I've had them for 15 yrs no problem. People look at me all time and ask how especially gas stations. I agree it's not comfortable for long distance but I race to my destination basically barely any freeway trips in these cars

  • @frederickschulze8014
    @frederickschulze8014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like the Porsche boxster is kind of underrated. Mine costed 9k, and I've seen plenty of better deals out there, including boxster S's (with 250 hp) for $10-11k.. You get a car that can compete with a new Miata or s2000 on the track at a fraction of the cost. A used z4 is another cheap ND Miata substitute.
    Despite being mid engine, everything is plenty accessible. Front is accessed from a door between the passenger seats, side can be accessed through the rear wheel wells, and top is accessed by putting the convertible top halfway up.

  • @michaelblacktree
    @michaelblacktree 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first track car was a Pontiac Fiero. The engine was anemic, and the brakes were inadequate. Learning to drive a mid-engine car had a learning curve, as well. But I had a lot of fun. When parts started becoming scarce, I replaced it with an E46 330i. So far, I'm really liking it.

  • @Fluff_Panda
    @Fluff_Panda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My brother's stock 2008 S2000 was catching corvettes on the corners, don't underestimate the S2000's. From the factory they have insanely good handling lol

  • @4WHEELPHOBIA4696
    @4WHEELPHOBIA4696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite youtube channel all time!

  • @devilg37
    @devilg37 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    An integra! Cheap, handles amazing, cheap parts, tonnes of upgrades to choose from, and a lot of fun for how little you will spend.

  • @chrispewkreme
    @chrispewkreme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would honestly say it doesn’t even seem like it matters so much about what car you choose so much as it matters about just going to the track.
    And I can say that because I am a driver that has never been to track. Yet I’ve had a Mazdaspeed6, Hawkeye Subaru STi, 15 WRX, supercharged E46 M3, E46 330i ZHP, E30 325i convertible and a 435i Gran Coupé.
    ALL would be great cars to track. And I never did. Part of that is not having tracks on Oahu. But auto cross still exists.
    So my advice would probably be to take whatever you have to the track and make the best of it. And the experiences you have will help you choose a car later on.
    But yes, this list is a good place to look.

  • @samregan1962
    @samregan1962 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m 15 and I am currently doing motorkhanas and khanacrosses in a Mini Cooper. Not a Cooper s just a Cooper. It’s a tonne of fun and it’s cheap to run and easy on consumables. It’s not exactly a track car but it’s still somewhere to get started.

  • @jinshicai1988
    @jinshicai1988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That dude slide his jack stand @0:15 was funny. Surly enjoy his day XD

  • @CarsWithJR
    @CarsWithJR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome! I agree 100%!

  • @SamuRacing
    @SamuRacing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Nobody is having more fun around here than Honda Fits" ❤

  • @emmanuellehuu8818
    @emmanuellehuu8818 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I cant get enough of gears and gasoline vids...

  • @tegboy
    @tegboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The perfect list. Exactly what I would pick.

  • @05silverem2
    @05silverem2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with the rear wheel drive idea he had when speaking about the S2000., I run a focus st which is front wheel drive and I would love to get seat time in a rwd car to learn a lot more.

  • @syedrehanfida
    @syedrehanfida 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video as always. I love seeing all these real track people share their knowledge with us. Thank you so much Gears and Gasoline for genuinely trying to help us.

  • @driver46
    @driver46 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    S2K guy just nailed it the best car is the one you can afford to track and not being overwhelmed by cost .
    Great video 👍
    I was amazed by differenc in cost of tracking M3 E92 compare to NC Miata x3 and hard to bealive I had more fun in Miata just because you can brake so much latter and trow it around with 1000lbs less. Still love M3 sound more than anything tho .

  • @TheEldarz
    @TheEldarz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Why no love for AWD cars like EVO/STi?
    Disclaimer: I am 6’8’’ and I don’t fit into the common RWD picks like Miata/S2000/BRZ and don’t like FWD cars.

    • @Bluebeast2005
      @Bluebeast2005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      While they didn't specifically cover this in the vid, I believe they did in a round about way.
      1 they heavy! lol and 2 go through "consumables" more frequently.

    • @djsonicc
      @djsonicc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Expensive

    • @Camhin1
      @Camhin1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      They don't teach car control as well as rwd or fwd cars can.

    • @KingOGAV
      @KingOGAV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bc fwd is the best and your a poopy head

    • @chron151
      @chron151 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's all about cost of entry and subsequent maintenance. I own a fully built 2004 STI and a 2003 NB2 MX-5. I only need to upgrade my brake pads, brake fluid, maybe run a crossflow radiator and have a good set of tires (hard dog roll bar was installed when I bought the Miata) in order to go do a track day or HPDE with a reliable car. Granted, I'm not paying Porsche prices for consumables even if I did run the STI but it's still going to be more than the Miata no matter what.

  • @sutton3199
    @sutton3199 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the S2k is an outlier if we're honest here. At least here in the US, good luck finding one at a decent price that isn't molested to all hell or trashed from previous owners.

  • @Offthehandlenick
    @Offthehandlenick 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really wanna say the fox-sn95-new edge mustangs are also good. They are on the heavy side but infinite capabilities and mods, inexpensive and lots of fun. But more required on necessary safety items like frame connectors and strut braces as it does tend to flex

  • @f4st3r36
    @f4st3r36 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If your track car doesn’t excite you then what’s the point? I bought my car because I love the performance and sound. I go to the track because I love the experience when you really push it. I can’t say I’d feel the same about being on track in a civic or Miata, even though they are good cars, because I don’t find the experience very exciting. Best first track car? Whatever makes you want to go to the track.

    • @TheOGtyler
      @TheOGtyler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If I had the money to buy that pimped out Camaro I would NGL! But I'm just a broke kid trying to get a taste of some racing and track days and if I gotta do it in my $2000 bone stock civic with 115Hp then I'd say it's better than not going at all. I plan on working from the bottom with it, learn what I can learn from it and one day I'll be behind the wheel of something with "speed" but for now I'm enjoying the idea of driving this slow car fast 🔥💪

    • @mikejoness2k
      @mikejoness2k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think they where more so focusing on a car that would be exciting but also cheap on consumables and would most importantly teach you how to be a better driver. Sure I’ll be an fun experience to track a exciting fast car but you might not learn much because the capabilities of the car your driving will be higher than what you can reach. If your used to faster cars in a straight line sure a Miata or Civic will feel boring but if you like driving you’ll appreciate what they are once you learn how to drive faster.

  • @zabzinski
    @zabzinski 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    FR-S / BRZ - "Am I a joke to you?"

    • @clayduval1255
      @clayduval1255 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      The issue is probably the entry cost. They are just now starting to get close $10k with a salvage title or needing 100k maintenance done. And with the cheapest being down around where the cheapest S2Ks are, the S2K is probably a better car for the track. Come back in 5 years and the Toyobaru twins would definitely be on the list replacing the E36/46 or S2K IMO

    • @DuBstep115
      @DuBstep115 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@clayduval1255 Oh no a 100k maintenance on toyota haha. Meanwhile they put overpriced e46 M3 on the list that can granade the engine anytime because bearings or subframe etc. Not a good idea buy cars that are going up in value atm if you are going to trash them at track

    • @clayduval1255
      @clayduval1255 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DuBstep115 my point has nothing to do with reliability of the Subaru engine (not Toyota) but that's still a fairly substantial added cost for when you're getting the car ready for hard driving on a budget. Changing fluids isn't too expensive but doing timing work can be pricey.

    • @DuBstep115
      @DuBstep115 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clayduval1255 if timing belt swap is huge cost maby racing isn't the right sport for that person. Or the car they should be looking is 100-500 civic instead of S2000 or GT86

    • @philspaghet
      @philspaghet 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta wait a few more years for them to be worth the price for being track cars

  • @Joe-eg7ml
    @Joe-eg7ml 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    B13 Sentra with sr20 swap and b15 Sentra spec v, stock motor is good and can FI but also can swap in a VQ. These are such underated cars. These make great first time track cars.

  • @nahyeahnah7248
    @nahyeahnah7248 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In australia the best track car you can buy is a manual AU falcon.
    RWD, 1500KG, massively tunable and reliable, cheap as hell parts, you can get a model with IRS or a live rear if you're going for track or drag driving.
    You can get them with a 250hp inline 6 or the 302 Windsor V8, RWD. If you want you can throw a barra into one (as they literally bolt right in, same mounting brackets as the I6 in the AU falcon) and now you have a 500hp track monster for less than $6000AUD (about 4k USD)
    Also they only cost like $1500 for a good running one.

  • @caalcb7
    @caalcb7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tight budget : Civics or even Honda Fit, it got the handling and tons of aftermarket parts support. It didn't cost a lot to maintain it.

  • @Rippin-Rich
    @Rippin-Rich 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is all very good information! I started with a BRZ and did 20 track days my first year and was cheap on consumables but I wanted faster, bigger, nicer so I got a 2022 Camaro. As much as I love the car I kind of regret buying such a fast heavy car because now my cost for 1 track day is easily $1200 a day. Now I just picked up a Gas Go Kart because I cant track the camaro as much as I want to. The Kart is way cheaper and just as fun lol!

    • @brandonjan_
      @brandonjan_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      1200 a day?

    • @Mark-rt6fy
      @Mark-rt6fy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brandonjan_ About 2 tanks of gas, half set of tires, half set of brakes, and event entry fee

    • @brandonjan_
      @brandonjan_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mark-rt6fy jeez man those muscle cars eat at consumables i’m sorry😭 u should get a miata if u get bored of the go kart tho!

  • @jasper_mehringer
    @jasper_mehringer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    8:14 nice shout out to all my honda fit/jazz brothers and sisters lol!

  • @benmarr352
    @benmarr352 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    To introduce some European favourites... Caterham or Westfield, available in the US - about 1,200 to 1,400 lbs, easy 250 to 350 bhp/tonne, rwd, easy to drive, but challenging to drive well, no power brakes, no power steering, no abs. I have had 4, one I ran 12,000 miles per annum in all weather as a daily. Cheap parts, cheap insurance, minimal consumables, minimal depreciation and faster than anything seen in the video.

  • @rollingmile7553
    @rollingmile7553 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an Audi TT and I love it. It eat corners like no one’s business

  • @nathanha8760
    @nathanha8760 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    3rd gen MR2s are a great choice, especially if you would like to learn how to drive a mid-engine car.

  • @lookship
    @lookship 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    E36s prices in the UK are shooting through the roof. The drift scene has ramped the price of them up now since S-Bodys are now selling for £15k for a clean one, which is ridiculous.
    Personally I'd go for a GT86/FRS as a number 1 choice. I had one and it's the best chassis in a modern car hands down. Cheap parts and as long as you're not looking for crazy power (like 350hp+) out of the FA20, pretty reliable aswell. But I can see why the Civic and the S2K are back on another list. They're something that can just get HAMMERED everyday.
    Great video again guys 👍

    • @DuBstep115
      @DuBstep115 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If I lived in UK, the changes of me buying lotus elise S2 would be 200%. Who the F*** would pay premium for hammered e36 when you can literally pick up one of the best track cars in the world for 12-15k?

    • @lookship
      @lookship 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DuBstep115 I know right? But even Elise prices have started to soar recently over here. 2 years ago my friend sold his S1 for 9k (37k miles - really good condition) the cheapest on the market atm is 13.5 with double the mileage. Insane.

    • @DuBstep115
      @DuBstep115 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lookship 16k for good condition S2 is still a bargain compared what the rest of the world has to pay for them. For example you need to pay +20k euros for 140tkm driven S2 in Germany.
      Edit: Forgot that you can pick up Caterham Roadsport with 1.6 K-series 135bhp for 14k as well.

  • @JesterMasque
    @JesterMasque 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh dang, Jabaay @ 2:42!

  • @jrcautomotive4319
    @jrcautomotive4319 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Notification squad, I’ll be back later. Love you guys

  • @A._.Neill26
    @A._.Neill26 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to throw the Audi TT 8n in for an honorably mention. Bit harder to find parts for but an absolute machine on the track.

  • @GevXander
    @GevXander 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another amazing video, thanks guys.

  • @cidfacetious3722
    @cidfacetious3722 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I might be a little late, but I would not recommend an S 2000 for your first track car. I’ve had an Ap1 and currently have an AP2. It’s a lot to manage the limit if your patient go for it, but you’re the kind of guy that goes balls to the walls out the gate go with Miata or FRS. There is a reason a lot of people wrapped these cars around trees back in the day.

  • @boarderboi7
    @boarderboi7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    FC's and FB's are super good cars if you want to learn how to be the best driver you can be. And they get a worse rep reliability wise than they deserve. The only problem is acquiring parts, especially for the FB. But so fun revving as high as your nerves will allow ;)

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video gentlemen and I agree. The cars I’ve enjoyed the most were the ones I drove. Thank you for reminding me of this. (:

  • @solcharms
    @solcharms ปีที่แล้ว

    If I had to extend this to a top 10 list:
    5: FRS/BRZ
    6: 350Z
    7: VW GTI
    8: Subaru WRX
    9: Mini Cooper
    10: Compact class: Honda Fit/Toyota Echo/Nissan Versa

  • @xxlalbatross3287
    @xxlalbatross3287 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my opinion the most suitable trackday car is an mx-5, if you are wondering let me explain. When all other cars rely on engine power, the mx-5 only relies on its road holding

  • @ThEgamingGINJ
    @ThEgamingGINJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    8th gen civics, all come with double wish bone suspension making rear handle amazing, lots of mods, cheap to fix and can get a good one for cheap if lucky

  • @joemilleriv
    @joemilleriv ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought a 99 miata nb (jdm rs edition) can’t wait to take it to the track!

  • @99joserivera
    @99joserivera 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d say frs would be a great first track car also!

  • @Locallybuiltauto
    @Locallybuiltauto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Golf GTi mkv/6 and Honda Civic are the 2 best cars to start with

  • @the_heart_shaman4363
    @the_heart_shaman4363 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude your civic is in the hoonigan autofocus video!!!! Just watched it drive past! Epic

  • @dubbleA100
    @dubbleA100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got my FC rebuilt last week!
    I can't wait to get on the track next week 😎

  • @rysliv
    @rysliv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always, another awesome video. Keep it coming.

  • @DriversSide
    @DriversSide 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Track performance was an important factor when I got my e46 m3 for my channel! Hoping to do some auto cross and a track day or two this summer

  • @S2000-p2s
    @S2000-p2s 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    S2K😏❤

  • @Exorcist-z3z
    @Exorcist-z3z 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how he put the price of the civic as $1-$5000 2:40