Mooer micro preamp 005 Brown Sound demo with a 4 x 12 cabinet. Can a pedal replace a tube amp?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- Hey everyone,
I've seen a lot of people on Social Media using these pedals more and more, and ditching their large tube amps. So today, I'm going to show you how I run a Mooer micro preamp (005 Brown Sound) into a 4 x 12 cabinet! I think it's an awesome solution for the gigging musician, and highly praise Mooer for getting such great tones into these small form factor pedals!
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DISCLAIMER - you need a power amp to power a 4x12 cabinet, the Mooer micro preamp pedal will not do this on it's own. Here, I'm using a ISP Stealth, which works pretty well, but there are all sorts of small solid state power amps on the market.
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What do you guys think about micro preamps and small gear? Are you using any in your rig?
I'm actually using them because of your ISP Stealth video! I use the Mooer 015 Brown Sound, as well as a few other ones.
I’d totally use one if I didn’t have a modeler I was super happy with - smaller is more convenient, especially when it sounds that good. Good call on using one as a backup rig, probably gonna steal that idea
@@TuckOfIron Hell yeah! I like that video, I need to do more intros like that haha. 🙌
@@AdamFreeman123 highly recommend!
I would like to see (or hear I guess) you compare this to the pv Panama on the pod hd. I'm debating on either buying the hd pack for my 500x or buying this pedal.
Also I am pretty happy with my tone but I'm always curious on how it could be better. Pretty much just slaving my joyo zombie to run my pod. Using the tread plate with no cab bc I'm using a 1x12 with a v30.
Dude, took 5 minutes for one riff. Thats too long and you sound great and friendly too, just trying to help
Gotta get your s*** in brother!
I new about Mooer for sometime now but never went to their website I saw this pedal and searched it on youtube and here i am BLOWN AWAY I hope they send you more pedal for more review. LOVED IT!!!
I run my Mooer Black Knight into an Orange Pedal Baby. This has fully replaced my Blackheart BH100H Hot Head amp. Sounded phenomenal during my last stage outing.
Hot head that's a beast of an amp fair play, thats mad that little pedal can replace that!
My favorite things with these is that the built in cabinet impulses are very usable!
Yeah dude, they sound great!
Mooer 005 Brown Sound 3 is (i.m.o.) the best Mooer pedal/preamp. I like not to put the distortion at maximum, but at medium level and boost it with an overdrive in front of it (boss super overdrive sd-1 or mxr berzerker are my favs).
Compact is key.
I think the answer is a reliable IEM system to take the cabinet out of the equation. Until then I use a powered wedge to monitor my tone. I simply attach a trolley handle and some wheels to it so I can easily move is around.
Glad u did a review on this bud 🤟🤟I hope u also did the dual rectifier one !!!!!
Killer tune as usual bud !!!!🤟🤟🤟🤟
I'm running the 009 Blacknight as my main driver for space limited gigs instead of the Helix Rack. It totally rocks.
Dude that is my favorite model in the ge200! 🤘🤘🙌
The Blacknight sounds so evil, I love it!
Great pedal! I have a 5150 and it’s way to loud for my house. I basically can’t use it past the kids bedtime where as I could use this anytime and it’s a lot cheaper
I have the Mooer 001 Gas Station. Sounds absolutely insane with a BBE Sonic Stomp through the effects loop of my old Marshall VS100H.
They sound really good! People never believe me when I tell them this tiny thing can sound massive
I live in an apartment where the neighbors above me can hear almost everything. Can't even turn my Joyo Zombie and Harley Benton 112v up loud enough to get a decent sound. So instead I'm running a Mooer 001 pedal into a little 50 PA in my living room and it sounds amazing for practicing at those low volumes. Would love to hear how it compares on a much bigger PA someday, but it's perfect for my situation
Yeah they're great. And the cab impulses they come with sound really decent!
if that spider ever bites you, just remember that with great power comes great responsibility. Good luck on your new career.
😂😂😂😂
Did anyone else notice the spider crawling from the bottom right at 3:07 ?
I just kept staring at it till it vanished.
Great video! The pedal only rig is definitely tempting- gonna be thinking about that one as I lug my 5150iii and road case in for our next gig.
😂 yeah I have a marshall 100/100 in a rack with a podhd I was using forever. Sou is beast, but I was basically hauling 2 amps in one case. It was so ridiculously heavy!
Really enjoy your content man - keep it up!!!
Thanks 🙌
I think these are really cool, but I also don't think you can beat a tube amp. Tubes just feel completely different, even though pedals like this "sound" the same. I would 100% use this or my GE200 as a backup with a power amp...
By the way, I see Mooer makes a 30-watt power amp. I wonder how much that will push a 4x12 cab. Matching up the GE200 or one of the preamps with that might be a good rig!
Valid. Yes, I've seen those tube power amps. Not a bad idea!
I’m way late to the micro pre amp game.
I run DI for shows. I get better tones out of the brown sound than my $1500 amp modeler. These bad boys are that good.
I saw Mooer just hooked CoF up with the Mooer Preamp Live as an upgrade. I DMd Marek about it and he is amazing about answering questions about it. Super nice dude!
That's awesome! They are really ahead of the game I feel, like specifically with these micropreamps. I mean, I can fit this thing in my pocket, and it sounds like a savage half stack!
Taylor Danley I couldn’t agree more, I record direct with this and the Mooer radar. Upload the Airis Effects IRs into it and it sounds beastly! Btw: nice video, I subbed!
Awesome, thanks bro! 🙌 Yeah I used the ge200 to track guitars for quite a while, and it was really great at the time. Now, I almost always track a DI and use an amp sim to monitor. Having that DI track comes in handy when I'm doing all these gear reviews so I can reamp the track and not have to record a new song for every demo.
That is so not the "Brown Sound"!
My 45 year old back always appreciates shrinking my road rig. 😆😆
(Apologies for the threadomancy.)
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I have the same pedal and the same reason why I bought it. Cradle of Filth is using it. 🤘😁😁
😂 awesome 🤘
Mooer Micro 011 or Moorer Cali Dual + Moorer Radar + 4x12 whatever cabinet speaker or Headrush FRFR Speaker would sound good.
Hello Everyone. I also have a demo of Mooer Brown Sound 3. You may want to check it out! Thanks. 😃
Cool vid dude. Im really considering getting a mooer mesa preamp pedal. Currently running a 6505+ which is sick but id be a liar if I said I didn't miss my old triple rec! Have u tried any of those? I do have a joyo zombie so I guess i kind of already have a "Mesa" style micro head I could slave to the 6505🙊
Ill bet the mooer cali duel would murder my joyo amp tho lol have a good one dude!
Thanks!! I have one of the Cali Mk3 micropreamps, and its comparable to the model in the ge200, so I would imagine the others are as well. The Rectifier patches in the ge200 though are really weak in my opinion. Haven't tried Joyo, but definitely am interested. I think what I like about this setup is you can swap out preamps really easily.
Great video dude! I currently gig with a 5150 MK 2 and don't get me wrong, I fucking love that amp, but I'm sick of lugging it into venues, and it takes up too much room in the band transport. I was thinking of getting the new mooer preamp live which basically has all these mini pedals built in along with cab sim's and the ability to load your own IR's. I was thinking a decent rig would be my pedal board with the mooer and then a power amp to go into cabs in case the venue has a shitty pa or an old confused sound engineer who only knows tube amps lol. It would basically mean we could gig with just our guitars and pedal-boards, we could potentially get on planes with our live rigs as hand luggage which just amazes me XD
Thanks! Yeah, space is definitely a concern and you really can mitigate a lot of it by using these micropreamps. Especially with all the new solid state poweramp that are out now, which usually aren't much larger than the pedals, you can really make a small but powerful rig!
Get a few roadies
Brown Sound is Synonomous with EVH.... would love to hear some EVH chops.
wrong channel then.
Take a look at the AMT P1 and P2 preamps...they sound killer too.
Wtf is that climbing up and down the wall by the door? Starts around 3:04.
Cool video. Wanted to learn more about this preamp so doing the YT dive to see what people are saying about it.
Lol, I never noticed that! Probably a massive spider, I see them out my studio once and a while.
Omg I couldn’t have that thing in the room , would have to whup it
Hey Taylor - which is "BETTER" tone-wise *just for home playing/tinkering/adding to the collection of gear*
The Mooer preamp pedal 005 (or 015) or the Joyo VIVO?
Which one would be better to have?
Great demo! Do you think this pedal would sound decent through say a powered full range PA speaker or monitor using the pedal’s built in power amp/cab IR? Have you tried the Mooer Radar yet?
I've used it direct into a PA, and it was very usable. The built in IR is great.
Yes, I've seen the radar, but never used one. I have a ge200, and imagine the IRs are probably the same or similar. They sound pretty good, I really enjoy the soldano 4x12
bro I have the 006 mooer preamp and use it in front of a P.A sistem, It works perfectly,you don't need nothing else beside the preamp whose sound you prefer
Less talking, more riffing plz
Well, at least someone appreciates my riffing.
Heard not so much brown sound but pick ups have alot to do with it.
The new evil dead is good, but it's missing the comedic relief that Bruce provided in the original
Awesome! my friend and I(2 guitarists in the same band) bought these little pedal thingies and put them through shitty practice amps and walah! we had decent sound. We hope it will work through a p.a. system at gigs. I can't find any videos on that yet. There are already videos of dudes claiming they played gigs with these pedals through p.a. systems. You can also play through the Fx loop on some amps. Thanks!
can you power this by a 9volt battery-solution for portability?
I wish these had two outputs, one for your amp/monitor and one for the house.
Am I the only one who saw the spider climbing on his door in the background?
Este men no salió en un capítulo de Chicago Fire????
Good demo and good analysis!!
Love your videos! Cool equipment. Great metal rhythm riffs. Solos need work :)
HOLY CRAP YOU USED MY NAME IN A VIDEO. Also lol I didn’t know this displays my real name
Lol, Did you maybe leave that comment with another account? It has your picture and real name on the comment.
Taylor Danley I must have been using my computer and for some reason my google account is tied to 2 TH-cam accounts, I guess. That surprised the crap out of me hahaha
how you deal with the buzz from the mooer preamp?
Skip to 5:03 if you want to avoid the initial waffle, life's too short . Still failing to see how this is 'Brown Sound' emulation just sounds like another metal distortion to me ?
Hey Taylor. Have you tried to hook up the Mooer 005 up to your 4x12 cab using a rack mount power amp? Thanks!
I have a SD Powerstage 700 and a Marshall 100/100. I've ran it through both. Sounded great! I'm not sure I've done it in a video... seems like something I would have done though! 🤔
@@TaylorDanley You did. Also the ISP amp. I can't find any videos of running the pedal into a rack mount power amp like a Qsc or Crown, then into a 4x12. Looks like this experiment is up to me. Thanks. You make great videos! Keep it up!
So if u wanted add effects how wouid u do it bring they share the same chain
Run it like you normally would with an amp. Think of the pedal as the amp head. Delays/reverbs after the Mooer. Distortions/ODs before. Of course, there are no rules on signal chain.
Why we used this pedal? I have simple stranger amp that's it 🙂😔
cool vid man! keep it up
does it sound better without a cab sim?
Thanks. No definitely not.. unless you are running it into a real cabinet
@@TaylorDanley i see, im eyeing this for future gigs
i was planning to use something like this to plug in an amp at any venue and have a decent tone.
Was wondering if its sound would also be good without a cab sim plugged in an amp hehe
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😂 thanks.
do you need a noise gate pedal with your mooer micro preamp and tube screamer too?
You dont need one, but it's probably a good idea.
Hello Taylor.
Do you have a direct-to-interface demo for this as well? Be interested to hear.
can i use it for example in front of my orange crush 20 clean channel?
It's a preamp, so it would be better served in the fx loop return
This is not just the pedal he also uses a TS9 if you want to know what this pedal does look elsewhere..
How do you think these would go for achieving release quality recordings?
I think most people would never know the difference. You can bypass the IR and add some different ones in post if you wanted as well.
hi , if you played this pedal through a 4x12 like this ... right next to the real amp would you hear much difference ? enough difference to spend thousands more on the real thing ? most demos of this pedal are direct recording or IR
Hi. how could I connect modulation pedals (Delay, Reverb, Phase) using micro pre amp pedals? Or Do I need to buy a preamp that has Send/Return Inputs?
Is there a bass amp version of these yet? And if so can i still run into the same power amp/412 cab?
i have the 019 plexi one, can i use delay/ reverb pedal after the pedal when cab sim is on right into mixer/ pa in live situation?
You sure can. Think of it as adding post effects in a studio.
I'm used to playing through heads and cabinets. Could you use this as an overdrive with a 5150??
What if you need a clean tone?
I just did a video comparing these to the ge200, and I showed the blue channel in that vid. You can clean it up reasonably, but the 5150iii just isnt that kind of amp. Its known for face scorching gain, not so much beautiful shimmery cleans.
Is it possible to run one of these to a cabinet (for stage sound) and to the PA at the same time?
Which is thicker 008 or 005? Have you tried 011?
Have not tried the 011, but was severely underwhelmed by the dual rec patch for the ge200. I'll have to try the pedal and see if it sounds better. Like I said previous, I think the 005 is a little heavier sounding than the 008. Hope that helps! 🙌
Can a pedal replace a tube amp? It depends of your scoliosis I guess. If you don't have that kind of issue, there's is no excuse to carry any kind of a tube amp!
Old school death metal fan?
All school death metal fan! 🙌🤘🤘
5:07
You REEAAALLLYYY don’t need a screamer in front of a 5150 lol
Have you ever played a real one?
Yes, I have one. The point of the screamer in front is to tighten so you dont have to run you gain as high through the amp. This is super common. No, you absolutely dont need more gain out of a 5150 lol
Try it without ts.
Would this also sound good with a 1x12 cab with a v30
Yes, just disable the speaker emulation. Youd need a power amp too.
Thanks. Great videos!!!
Fooookin ell you like to talk.
same
Couldn't finish the demo because you frikken talk too fast man !!.........relax !!..........less is best !!.!
Or you listen too slow 🤔
In all seriousness, I know I talk fast. I would rather come off as natural rather than trying to force something and it coming off as scripted. 🤷♂️
Either way, thanks for the comment 🙌
@@TaylorDanley Think your doing a great job though !!....also think your are totally right about being natural !
Sorry for my non creative post !,..........might be feeling a little off set tonight!..........Cheers !
Thanks! You are right though... I do have to ask people sometimes if I just explained something to fast. Sometimes I go off on tangents. I do try to dial it back for the most part, but sometimes I get going and it's like a 10 ton boulder rolling downhill 🤷♂️
If anyone wants to hear a full original recording with this on guitars- here ya go: th-cam.com/video/gVMrML5thcY/w-d-xo.html
Does that sound good to anybody??
@@French_Canadian_Pea_Soup Pass. I prefer long, thick, strong fingers like my own as opposed to short, stubby, weak fingers such as yours.
@@French_Canadian_Pea_Soup Enjoy.
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Dud cut down on your talking about everything but pedal. Just some advice. Oh and one more piece of advice. Playing something beside gallop picking on low e. Players want to her all aspects of the pedal . Not everyone plays thrash metal.
Sounds like metalzone straight into sound card 🤦🏻♂️
i just bought the 012 us gold and i must say that i like it very much.didnt expect that tbh.but the gain isnt so much and the maxon at front it helps much.i would like to test 005 too