What Are Guitar Preamp Pedals And How To Use Them
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- What's the deal with preamp pedals? If our amps already have a preamp section why would we want preamp pedals? Well that's exactly the question we are going to answer in this episode. Let me know in the comments what your favorite preamp pedals are or if this is the first time you've ever hear of them.
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Gear in this video:
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1:49 Boss OD-1
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1:53 TS808 Tube Screamer
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2:30 DOD 410 Bifet Boost
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2:33 DOD Bi-Fet Preamp FX10
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3:02 Boss FA-1 FET Amplifier
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3:44 JHS Clover Preamp
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5:00 Keeley Caverns Delay Reverb V2
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5:00 JHS Panther Cub V2
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5:00 JHS Lucky Cat
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5:00 TS9 Tube Screamer
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5:00 JHS Clover Preamp
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Record Time:
Counting Crows - Recovering The Satellites
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Too bad the whole pedal/belt clip thing didn't catch on. Eventually, instead of using a pedal board, a guitarist could just wear their massive collection of pedals across their chest like an ammo belt.
Neil Kazwell holy guitar tone Batman! Your utility belt has changed a lot!
Batman utility belt
Im thinking headband
Haha
Imagine worship guitarist they’ll have to use 6 belts to fit all the delays
Josh: Raves about the belt clip on the FA-1.
Josh: Creates the Clover to be everything he loves about the FA-1.
Josh: Creates the Clover without a belt clip.
ever hear of duck tape ? .............duhhhh
@@elrico1364 No. I've heard of Duct Tape, but not 🦆tape. Duhhhh
@@mysticfakir2029 I suppose you never heard of google either.
@@elrico1364 🤦
@@elrico1364 rewind the tape and try again.
There's plenty of room on that guitar for a 5th pickup.
So...you want to hear the crap he was playing 5 different ways?
MrJimbo327 ?
Why stop at 5???
Not to mention something like the Graphtech Ghost system. If it isn't already in there. Is it Josh?
@@MrJimbo327 hey asshat, his songs were just fine. Take your belittling somewhere else, like maybe under a bridge? Troll much?
If the clover is so awesome, then why didn't you put a belt clip on it?
Touché...
Bass players are worried guitar players will hip check them (like in hockey) when they want to turn on a pedal
Shots fired!!
Gazing was pretty sweet. I like groove and the guitar. It really demonstrated the power of the pedal for me!
Cant argue that logic
BILT: "Mr. Scott, what kind of pickups would you like on your guitar?"
JHS: "Yes."
love it, though, sounds awesome and a great aesthetic, and i am sure has a ton of versatility. i want one!
If only they were obtainable.
Those cheap plastic rings around the mini HBs are a a pain... got some off Enay, hated them. Drag to change pu height....
Iz could use a hummy in da bridge, sweet tele in da neck, n flamed out maple neck! Ill supply the precious gems for the dot enlays! Opal might look badass!😁🙌🏼💥🙄its ok to dream right?🤣
@Anthony Hernandez Except for Strat single coils. Or Gibson PAFs. Or anything on a Tele. No Hot Rails, No ES Hollowbody Humbuckers, No Gretsch Filtertron's, no Rickenbacher's, No Jazzmasters, no Charlie Christian's, no Piezos... But if you wanna test a Jaguar with 2 mini-buckers and a modified Danelectro lipstick, then yeah, this pretty much has all Yer bases covered
Josh is such a great dude that he doesn’t even care if you buy JHS pedals, he just wants to support the music community by making these videos.
this vid has 1 million views, I feel like they make money on TH-cam just as much as the pedals
He cares. A lot. And thats ok.
@@jeffchicao Exactly. This channel is just (well, not just, but also) to add to his goodwill. When you're in the market for a pedal to make you think "hey, let's go with a pedal from that nice dude from TH-cam that also seems to know his stuff". But like you said, there's nothing wrong with that. And these vids are very entertaining and I learn a thing or two as well. It's all good.
This week in Pedals That Are Suddenly Expensive on Reverb ......:)
Yeah it can be a heartbreaking thing when Josh features a rarity that was on my list. Wait a year maybe the price will come back down.
Exactly...the Boss Hyper Fuzz comes to mind.
Too true
@@michaelbartholomew8155 Tech 21 Double Drives are suddenly so hot right now.
Should have kept mine. ..
Matt Gilbert how much are they going for now?
Your drummer is so so solid, I always find myself thinking that in your full band demos
Yeah, he's pretty great.
tighter than two coats of paint
Bassists became unnecessary after the octave pedal!
@@boseefusmacmurphy1156 guitarists became unnecessary after the distortion pedal, hence Royal Blood
@@surike they would be better if they included some of the other dudes from entourage in their band.
My guitar tone has never been as personally attacked as it was by "Emo-oceans."
Does anybody else think the drums also sound REALLY good?
And I could listen all day to his playing. Just the way I like drums. OK, one of the ways.
The drums are soooo crisp.
True!
Taaaasty. And isn’t that just a mono OH?
yes i want that kit
Josh. Dude. For (insert chosen 4 letter word)s sake. This pedal thing you do? Give it up man and release an album! I am repeatedly amazed by the strength and depth of the grooves you play. #@&$ man. You and drummer boy rock. Seriously. No smoke.
LOL. Thanks!
@@jhspedals It's true. Super musical and tasty stuff!
Seriously. These jams make me wanna drag my band out of retirement.
Yes, I love the guitar and drums grooves. Makes me want to start a two-piece band.
Yeah, please do it. I'll totally share with my band, and i'm shure they will love it. Has the same kind of feel that we are seeking for, or at least it's a great inspiration
Unbelievable!!! I’ve been so sick of my Marshall class5’s boomy/muddy clean tone that I usually stack fuzzes in front of it. After watching this video I tuned up the broadcast to cut out the lows and boost the clean and it feels like I have a killer new amp. It’s probably the best tone I’ve had. It seems like half the pedals on my board are to cover up the mud but now I want to hear the fundamental tone. Fresh Blank Canvas. Damn, can’t thank you enough for this one.
Yeah, I just started using a pre for the first time and it totally fixed my muddy neck pick up blues. Damn, now I can't do without ut
Which preamp pedal did you start using?@@thelastwildcolonialboy3667
Sell the Class 5 and get a Studio Series Marshall.EL 34.Shouldn't need a pedal to 'correct' an amp.
@StratsRUs you need to correct your butt, poopy
Damn, that was one tasty jam.
Hi I love your videos and I Learn a lot with it.
Greetings from Chile
@@marqueemoon3220 Hey Marquee! Thanks for the love.
Even better with Peanut Butter. It was some really nice playing, tunes, and especially TONES.
I love how Josh plugs other companies stuff he admires, like the `Keeley Caverns' on the board.
...but does the Clover has a belt clip??????
No. No.. No... He hAs ToO mUcH lOvE
No need because when you have it you don't need to go out.
I feel like less people wear belts now
Karl Montenegro No belt clip = no deal.
Perhaps a colorful lanyard?
I really appreciate seeing how your solo demos aren't needlessly flashy and ego-stroking and then to find how truly lovely your ensemble playing is. You do the more important part of guitar-playing really, really well.
Perfectly said!!! Josh's playing/songs are the perfect example of songwriting for the sake of making great songs, not the sake of being flashy, showing off, and making a name for himself as a guitarist....
It's the epitome of the art of minimalistic guitar playing that still fills the room with great sound, carries the song, captures the emotion and vibe of the tunes, and is complete and freakin awesome without any unnecessary notes/playing and is just freakin cool!!!
You have a gift for more than pedals. Your videos are some of my favorites.
Josh is pretty darn pleasant.
Snare drum sounds is 🔥🔥🔥
All those color boxes in the back make drum tracks sound awesome!
great drummer
Dude Emo Oceans is AMAZING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that needs to be on an album !!!!!!!
facts
@@Schicksal0 no cap 🤣
Sorry, I can't tell the best jam, because I could only pay attention to this fucking guitar...
*ShAmEcaster by OVERstuft
Four pickups, of three different types, with a Jazzmaster tailpiece. I too had to fight with the distraction. Fortunately, way above my pay grade so I could set all that aside. 😎
www.biltguitars.com
if money is no object you too can have a bilt guitar made for you. money is an object for me :(
Same. I had to watch it again, to fully absorb everything he was talking about.
Please put “Emo-Oceans” on Spotify or SoundCloud or something. Goddamn man, that’s giving me some SDRE vibes in a great way
PLEASE
What’s SDRE?
Sunny Day Real Estate
skeeterd5150 thanks bro
Yes Please! It's beautiful.
Hi Josh, my favourite song from this video is "Emo-Oceans". It sounds great and I love the chord progression. I don't have a preamp pedal yet but will be checking out the Clover. Also, I agree with Kevin that the drums sound really good (tonally as well as the playing). Love the channel, keep up the good work!
Emo Oceans was sweet. I’ve never had a preamp pedal but this has me contemplating. So many pedals. So little money and time.
For years I used an Xotic Ep booster as my preamp. Put it right after my tuner and never turned it off. Loved how it boosted mids slightly but over all made the amp way more touch sensitive and the tone sweeter. Awesome pedal.
I found the MXR 6 Band EQ to be really versatile in this way. I'd set it to boost highs and mids and put it before my overdrive. Turning it on would give my overdrive a nice big lead boost.
"Preamplify your life" with a clover logo. EZ t-shirt design.
POINTS!!!
Yessss
none ever mentions that the Boss preamp was also used by Dave Murray from Iron Maiden in the 80's to boost his 50w jcm 800 Marshall heads (1987-2204 models). The mxr dist+ he was also using, was just added for solos. Basically he used the boss preamp and a mxr 10 band eq as always on pedals since they had no stiwtch.
Isn't an EQ pedal even better than a Preamp pedal?
(I mean, aren't they essentially the same?)
a preamp pedal can be pushed into overdrive (or pushed further) by a pedal in front of it, an EQ stays as clean as it possibly can. Depnds what you want really
AttakaiMusic but depending on the frequencies you are adjusting on the eq , it can push the amp to break up also. Durval Lacerda raises a good question and I still don’t see why one needs a preamp over an eq if you have a choice
Good questions, I agree it seems an EQ would do the same job, only better and more precise. Still don't really get the differences between EQ/Preamp/Boostpedals.
Seems like an EQ and a clean boost in one pedal.
I have an MXR Silver 10 band EQ and it can boost/cut volume and gain. It essentially can be a preamp in terms of adding/subtracting gain and frequencies, but there definitely are differences between the two. You’d just have to play both pedals to hear the differences.
add some bass to your tracks! I love the ideas, just want to hear them in their full glory! :P
I use a Marshall 100w Jcm800 as my preamp pedal. Just plug it's speaker output into the front of any other amp, and BOOM! Literally.
Peavey rage 158 does the same shit, don't feel special just yet
Don't try this at home... Use the FX-Send instead!
My Bass Player tried to do that with my hand wired 10w combo. I ripped the lead out and put gaffer over the speaker-out.
When I told my Bass Player I could DI using my Fender Bassbreaker15 Combo by running the XLR-out into my cab em/IR he said "so you're just using it like a pedal"
*sigh*
"NO - I'm using the *preamp* section with the power-amp and output tranny bypassed. I CAN engage the amp AND the DI'd signal at the same time by leaving the "mute" switch off. It means I get to run my effects into the amp and maintain some of the amp's character and frequency response in the DI'd signal and also have the amp running in its full capacity, as my de facto monitor. Or, I can engage the mute switch if we don't want any sound coming from the amp itself"
"So just like that Tube Screamer pedal into the PA except with an amp"
*deep sigh*
@@johanneschristopherstahle3395 Ground loops brah. That's a common problem.
Andy Timmons does it, yeah? He has two amps but only one preamp driving them both. I think that's correct. If it's not him it's someone else who they mentioned on That Pedal Show (which should be uploading an episode soon unless D&M got too drunk at NAMM and forgot to turn on the camera or call Simon...)
I have a Voodoo Lab Overdrive that I bought in 1999, and apparently I got one of a bad batch of pedals went out that year with some faulty component that overloaded the circuit with bass (nicknamed the "Sullivan mod" after the guy who screwed up the batch). I put the thing in a box, but 20 years later I emailed them and they said oh yeah we'll fix it free of charge no problem, we know exactly what the issue is. The pedal now sounds incredible. I am so impressed with their customer service, good folks there at Voodoo Lab.
just got one of their pedals today, sparkle drive mod!
Just got their Octavia
My favorite song was the first one, EMO-OCEANS.
Same, I need a download link for that
>:( that song pisses me off cause ive been noodling on a riff akin to that except it wasnt as good as the one he played in the vid and that sucks for me. tell me im not the only one this happens too from time to time. Criminey!
The band everyone should check out is Genesis! Growing up when I did, I thought Genesis was just “Invisible Touch”, etc. It was a revaluation(pun intended) for me in the early 90’s when I discovered they used to be a Prog band with Peter Gabriel (The guy that did Sledgehammer?, yes!) singing & Phil Collins was actually just an amazing drummer!
Genesis did everything first!
Used 666 in a song lyric(sorry Iron Maiden)
Guitar tapping (sorry Eddie Van Halen)
Classical guitar (Sorry Randy Rhoads, Yngwie, Richie Blackmore,etc)
Must listen Genesis:
Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Selling England by the Pound, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
I had the same epiphany. I was really only familiar with 80s Genesis. Then discovered Phil Collins Genesis. What an amazing drummer. Then discovered Peter Gabriel Genesis. Mind blown.
Genesis indeed probably had the best writing and orchestration of all prog bands, but your history is off-base on most of those 'firsts'.
More often than not, some cat had already done it well by the mid-60s.
exhibit A: Vittorio Camardese, shredding his balls off in 1965 (at 2:00 here). no drive (a crutch? i'll admit to relying on for most axes when tapping) needed, only superlative technique: th-cam.com/video/WD4zMqKK7so/w-d-xo.html
BTW, @Steve Hackett is touring!
Steve Hackett wasn't the first guy to tap on guitar, but he was definitely one of the very first to use it in a rock context
I recently went and saw the live cover band "The Musical Box" and CANNOT recommend them more. They added detailed drawings of the original equipment Genesis used and the sound is honestly cut from the records. They are brilliant musicians just as Genesis was. Thanks Dad for getting me hooked.
I just wanna say that I have an infinite amount of respect for you and the team - always advocating for a love and passion for the craft even when it isn’t your own brand, or offering alternatives when it is.
Kudos JHS
Love these vids JHS!
same! these are great!
No, you don't need a preamp pedal.
Emo Oceans is my fav. I have never used a pre-amp but the new JHS seems pretty awesome. Why would anyone get active electronics onboard with a dang 9v when you can switch out preamp pedals? I am not being a smart-aleck, I really just don't know.
It's a reasonable question. Placing the preamp as close to the pickups as possible will result in the greatest fidelity. Even a short cable between a guitar and a preamp pedal will result in some high-end roll off. It's subtle, but it's there. I have a guitar with an onboard pre. I never use it. It sounds fine but I have to agree with you - from a practical point of view it is preferable to have the option of using various pedals to shape the sound.
I agree. I mostly play bass, and I use passive pickups because I like the variety of switching different pedals rather than being stuck with one sound forever.
What Giraffe said. It's not even about the tone shaping being close to the pickups, it's about having the active buffer in front of the guitar cable to keep its capacitance from acting as a low-pass filter.
@@martinkrauser4029 That is a little over my head but I appreciate the answer. Thanks to all of you who answered.
On- board preamps, as in EMG pickups are also quieter than putting a preamp pedal after 10 ft of cable; better signal to noise ratio.
Nice videos please don't forget us bass players do a special video about bass pedals please 😊
Yep.
I just got the Tech 21 dUg Pinnick preamp pedal...it's awesome.
He actually touched on this in an early video, claiming that any good pedal manufacturer can make pedals that are used for bass and guitar!
Tech 21 programmable bassdriver on my bass is awesome as an overdrive or preamp.
JHS evil plan :P
1. Find an excellent pedal which is moderately priced used.
2. Use it in a video, saying how good it is (and, of course, demonstrating it with great results).
3. Wait for prices to skyrocket based on his "mini-review".
4. Push a JHS pedal with a similar (but modified) circuit in another video.
5. Profit as people buy the JHS version.
Yes. I love this evil plan muaaaaaaah. Worked on me :)
It’s good stuff.
Might be reverb and Sweetwater pays him to do the first part.
Kirsch Electric Contracting Inc. I’ll never NOT have a pulp n’ peel on my board in the future.
If that's his plan, where is my Gonkulator clone? $250 is too much
Is a preamp pedal a boost pedal with an EQ?
yes
no
yes
no
Why are you confusing me?
There is an important use case you didnt mention: using a preamp pedal in combination with IR loader pedals for silent/Home recording. Would be great to see a video about it.
In terms of bands I love that most people only know a few songs of, DEVO have always been one of my favourite bands ever. Most people know them for 'Whip It', but they are one of the most sublime post-punk/new wave acts of the 70s and 80s, and have gone on to influence so many bands. 'Are We Not Men?' is a must-listen for any enthusiast of weirdo punk rock.
It's a pity that Americans have never heard freedom of choice, pedo joe wouldn't have got in.
Twist away those"Gates of steel"✌️
Deco rule
Thanks for loving us! 😘 We love you too! Seriously.... also, I'm not sure if you can play a bad song so how can I chose? 🤔
Emo oceans was amazing! Must find tabs or really train my ear. And I want to bend/release that note you hold like at 6:12
Josh , you are a gift. All your explanations are so clear. Thank you for all the advice. I'm so proud to have JHS Pedals on my board
As for Recovering the Satellites, the title track is my favorite. I'd like to take a moment to call out the guy that produced/mixed that album. Especially the guitars. From a sonic standpoint, it's one of the best recorded albums I've ever listened to. Another one, coincidentally also a Satellite album, Satellite by POD is fantastic sounding, if you can get past the songs themselves, that is.
Dude! “Recovering The Satellites”!! I always tell people about how great this band was back in the day. I saw them live supporting this record here at The Aragon Ballroom in Chicago when I was 17. Really beautiful show and maybe the first concert that brought tears to my eyes. Thanks for bringing it back into the light!
Need bass on those tunes. I can play it :)))
I'm still not exactly sure why I need a preamp. Don't I accomplish the same thing when I put a pedal in my effects loop?
Subscribed. This is fast becoming my favorite channel.
A preamplifier is a circuit that amplifies a low level signal (less than 1V) and transforms it into a line level signal (a few volts). That is useful or necessary in order to get enough gain (amplification) in the power stage. So it's a cascading process: from low to mid and then high level signal (power level). That's all a preamp is, so any device that does that can be called a preamp, wether it distorts and colors the sound or not, that doesn't has anything to do with the "preamp" denomination. Specifically for guitar pedals, that name could be used for any pedal that tries to imitate what a preamp does inside the actual guitar amp, but essentially, the first pedal in the chain that takes the guitar signal and amplifies to line level is doing the job of the preamplifier. Thanks for the video!
So... what's the difference between a pre-amp and a clean boost...? The EQ section?
The Pedal Bored if you’re boosting the front end, nothing will keep it clean other than masses of headroom. If you want a clean boost, you need to place it in the power amp stage (or effects loop) after all the preamping and eq’ing has been done
@@davidtomkins4242 Sure, I'm just watching this video about what a pre-amp pedal is ('it boosts but it stays clean') and thinking, 'what makes a pre-amp pedal different to a clean boost pedal?'
And what's the difference between a preamp and an EQ pedal with a master volume pot? Would an EQ pedal count as a preamp? Is it just all marketing nonsense that they are called different? Or is EQ + cleanboost = preamp?
EQs, boosts, and pre-amps all EQ and boost. It's all about which pedal's sound you like best, and how you want to use them to minimize your board. I use my boosts after drive/distortion because mine are far from clean and I like a tight distortion. Whatever you need to support your sound. These pre-amps are for shaping your guitars tone for the gain, and FX pedals which follow, so they must be cleaner than your average boost. Adjust it for how you like to play, especially according to the volume knob on your guitar. The dynamics of soft picking and hard picking, high guitar volume, low guitar volume.
There is no difference
No clip though. Lame.
Now what if you compare a preamp pedal with an eq pedal? Isnt an eq peda doing the same just with more options to fine tune instead of just having bass mid and treb?
Emo-Oceans for sure! Great vibe, lots of breathing room. Solid! And of course, apart from th guitar, the drummer is.....well, AWESOME!
James Mankey on Concrete Blond’s “Bloodletting “ is phenomenal.
After reading about many guitarists in the 70's using the Echoplex tape echo unit not only for delay but as a preamp i was always curious... About 2 years ago i got an Echoplex preamp pedal and i use it, always on, in front of my Marshall JCM 2000... Its amazing what it does to the sound, subtle at first, unless you crank it, but then after using for a while and you turn it off, something just sounds 'wrong' - It colors the harmonic content of the amp in really nice way and its become a must have pedal for me...
If Nintendo had a brief attempt at making guitars in the 50s, this would have been it.
Blind Melon - Blind Melon Amazing album and people only know No Rain.
Best Jam was My Dad's Truck
Love that album so much
First band that popped in my head. Both albums are good.
I agree, Sleepyhouse and Change are my jams
Yes, Blind Melon sprang immediately to mind for me too. In a parallel with Counting Crows, their lesser known second album is closer to my heart..
Sleepyhouse and Paper Scratcher!!!!
Question: What if I use the clover preamp for voice? The point is to include a preamp and some efects after like eco or reverb. I know JHS Colour box it's better, but just to know... Thanks!
Gazing was just amazing. Start posting your music, please
Queens of the stone age is kind of one of those bands...
And here I am playing straight through an amp with just a touch of delay.
And Recovering the Satellites is spot on - in my opinion it's better than their debut. Songwriting, production, tones, delivery. Perfection.
I loved them all, but especially emo-oceans. I picked up my acoustic and tried to learn it real quickly. It's in A, right? My band is Blur. I think people only know, maybe Song 2 or Parklife, but they have so many amazing songs and Graham Coxon is so unique and inventive.
I got to see Blur's first ever US show at the Marquee Club in NYC, it was awesome.
Man, “On your own“ is one of the best songs ever written!
he thought of cars is a masterpiece
Coffee and TV
Awesome to see Blue and Graham get so much love. I love On Your Own, great riff, and No Distance Left to Run.
Dad's pickup truck
My choice for an underrated band has to be Biffy clyro. They're my absolute favorite band.
I realize it may not be the intended design, but I've been using the JHS Crayon as a preamp. Master up, pre-vol @9:00ish, tilt @ roughly 12:30. It adds a certain body to my clean sound that I dig a lot.
Can definitely be used that way!
I have an EHX Glove that I use clean to add 'something' that makes the sound 'better'. i can't really explain it. Maybe I'm doing what you do too.
Just picked up this pedal, so glad I did. It’s exactly what I needed. Like Josh said, it pushed my Fender Twin into overdrive, and gave my Orange Pedal Baby 100 a much needed character boost (the pedal baby is basically just a clean power amp designed to get the most out of your pedals, therefore it loves having the Clover at the beginning of the chain )
"Emo Oceans" gets my vote. Cool episode. Very cool pedal (as always).
No shred! So wow!
Pedal good!
shred is over rated- popular music that sells is mostly anything but.
I was not expecting the Recovering The Satellites recommendation. Absolute masterpiece.
Favorite song in the jam?!?!?! YOU’RE MAKING ME PICK?!?!?!?! That Revelator is a Jazzmaster smasher! The tones & attention to detail (like the “i” on the headstock using the string tree as the dot) are impeccable! I’m a fan of that clover pedal, it might wind up on the board this year ;)
Ween is a band everyone says, "Oh, I know them. They played that 'Push the Little Daisies' song." Ween are so much more than that one quirky '90s MTV song.
I swear everytime I watch a JHS video, I’m tempted to buy another pedal
Was gonna say none of them.........and then I heard “Stuck in My Locker”!
Yesssss
That community college joke made me feel attacked.
Get over it. Universities are fucking expensive
🤣
Love the “band” context to showing us these tones. Would love to see more this! Well done!!
I just recently got an ampeg sst from 1969, which is just a preamp as the speakers were these weird powered ones or something like that. But it's really sweet, and like no one's heard of it so it feels like truly my own and not just a famous artists setup I'm copying! Gonna be a lot of fun running it through different amps, and even through the effects loop of my other amps if I just wanna go straight to the power amp!
Toss up between emo oceans and my dads truck. My choice for a band that's underrated is Third Eye Blind.
For sure!
they are not underrated, just not enough people talking bad about them, letting our feelings show, calling them out for being weak. dont get angry just here cause i hate counting crows, people should know that some bands its ok to hate, or trash or put in a gulag in antarctica.
@@deepsurface lol. Well said
Agree, Counting Crows are pure talent. Also really liked the Refreshments in the 90’s. Fuzzy Fuzzy Big & Buzzy is a great album. Wish they had stayed together.
Really loved, "Emo Oceans," and "Stuck in My Locker." Is this your band/project? Been watching your videos for awhile now. Love your playing style. Easily the best pedal demos. No white-man blues BS ;)
JESUS I read the title as "Why You Need A Prenup"...nevertheless yeah you need both XD
Need a prenup before a pre amp honestly.
Well Fork me...... Iiked FORK the best..... and my favorite sleeper band is The FIXX. Jamie West-Oram is a hugely under-known guitarist with inventive playing, textures & tones, and as a band that is still together & touring, they're great live, and have never made a bad record.
This is probably the best clone of the Boss FA-1 with the added features. There is the Billion dollar boost, retro Sonics preamp etc.
Would really love to see jHs do a SDD3000 preamp pedal. There are a couple out there like the psionic triad but it’s a little pricey and more control than I want.
The earlier 1982 Lexicon PCM 42 had a nicer solid-state preamp in it. It was especially sweet for vocals and keyboards in the studio. It's just that the Edge chose the SDD 3000 and its built-in preamp became more famous with guitarists.
The Union Tube and Transistor “More” pedal is based on the SDD3k pre amp.
Shout out to easel -guy.
Emo-Oceans is fine jamming. It's a year later and if you're still reading the comments I currently am loving the Clover, mostly on bass. I am just coming off of a whirlwind romance with the boss AD-2 acoustic guitar preamp, that I teamed up with an earthquaker devices organizer, an ibanez autowah and a volume pedal to get faux-accordian sounds for the zydeco hounds.
I'm currently looking to FET120 though I'm unsure if amp in a box style pedals should be called preamps
Could you imagine an actual rig with all the crap we supposedly need?
umm yeah i have one, over $2000 for just the rig and i still need more. i shouldve bought a 900 watt head and 8x10 cab, but oh well
G2/Schmidt rig build
with over 25 pedals...
And now here come the G3...
@gooseabuse Think The Edge or David Gilmour.
Doesn’t really answer the first question: why do we need a preamp pedal, when all amps have preamps?
Definitely not. We need an A/B here
Late comment, but I have found another surprising way to use a preamp pedal... as the last in the chain!
I'll run a Walrus Audio Warhorn into JHS clover, mids boosted to 1 o'clocl, bass and treble at about 10 o clock. Into a Mesa Boogie Mk5-25, fat channel, all knobs set to about 1 o clock (no presence). With a strat, I'm able to get a clean tone through the JHS with a punchy mids that's perfect when working with an amp that's super hard to dial in (boogies). Suprisingly, I enjoy overdrive pedals before the CLOVER, as it helps keep the overall EQ curve of the amp. I've noticed that for playing restaurant gigs where you don't want a drastic change in sound for solos, having the JHS last keeps the amp from getting too loud, and prevents harshness that you'd otherwise get from an overdrive pedal without it. JHS's clover helps maintain a "steadyness" to my overall sound, ensuring that I can get dirty and add a bit more volume without changing the overall eq of the sound!
How did I discover this? Well, I found a quirk when trying to drive a charlie brown with JHS directly into an interface and DAW (pro tools). Id set the JHS clover and get a good strong clean signal, but when I turned on the Charlie Brown Overdrive pedal, I got a huge drop in volume and overall signal. plus it became what they call "a sausage" because of the compression. Even with the JHS dimed on volume, drive, and all 3 EQ knobs, It was overall QUIETER than the Clover all on its own!
Shocked, I just took a leaf out of Josh's "just try stuff" mantra, and tried swapping the pedals. Sure enough, I was able to get a good clean sound with the Clover being last before the daw, and the charlie brown broke up the signal and was able to add volume! So, with that being noted, I've ever since had the pedal be last in my chain..
Proof that it's a good idea: I haven't stopped getting compliments on my playing since I made this discovery. Not on tone, not on my amp, not on my guitar, but on my playing. For some reason, this combination with the Clover last has brought out inspiration that I wouldn't have otherwise had. It's the most important pedal that I own. I still experiment with placing other overdrives before it, but I never go anywhere without my Lucky Clover!
Random question, but would an “amp-in-a-box” pedal be considered a preamp pedal or an overdrive pedal?
Great question, I have an atd v stack which is, if I remember correctly, a D.i. I've ran it through the line in of an amplifier and I think it sounds better that way over being plugged into the front of the amp..
What about active pickups?! Do those need a clean boost pedal as well? It could only be placed after the pickup preamp.
Btw: Emo-oceans ... emotions... I see what you did there 👌
Can anyone explain to me the difference between a guitar preamp pedal and a guitar booster pedal? Im also very confused by Josh saying that preamps remain clean. Dont guitar amp preamps distort when you send extra signal through them if they have low enough headroom? And doesnt the same thing happen when you drive mic pres? This confuses my whole understanding of signal chain 😭
In 1976, I bought a little rectangular box with a guitar plug on one end and a jack on the other, it also had a knob (volume) and a switch (on-off) It was made by Electro-Harmonix, called the "LPB-1". It was incredible!!
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Thats my "always on" pedal. Makes my strat sound so beefy
My dad's first effect was also one of these small EH plug in effects, it was called the Screaming Bird, treble boost, and they had a larger version called the Screaming Tree. Would like to find him another one for nostalgia.
Recovering the Satellites is one of my favorite records of all time! Also, Fork was a jam, man. Great content here, Josh. I really respect that you’re so passionate about your job, and that you don’t care if people buy your pedals or not, that you want them to be able to find the right one for them. It’s part of what keeps me coming back to your channel, and what keeps me buying your products. You guys are awesome.
That's interesting to hear someone mention Recovering the Satellites. What a fantastic album. They were such good professional songwriters. You could tell that was a band of music students.
Well he cares if you buy his pedals, he just doesn't care if "you" buy his pedals; he has encyclopedic knowledge of pedal history to their guts that create what you hear; he knows how to create something the right way--and that is why he goes by if you build it they will come. He said Boss was his favorite pedal company ever. A lot of people might turn their noses up at that--but Boss (or Roland) created effects with passion--before most people had effects or even little idea what devices should do. They created pedals to fulfill what the musician wanted, and what the propellerheads in the lab knew was a quality tool; kept going to cover all the corners in latest trends and built out a portfolio that gave every pedal maker who came after a template to work from.
Blind Melon is a criminally under-rated band with some great albums who will forever be known for the radio hit "no rain"
Which was a banger though.
The band that would have been. The best album of the 90's no one knows about.
Hey Josh, I liked all those songs.
And I have a question: an EQ pedal is a preamp?
thanx bye
Someone answer this question. Haha.
I was thinking the same thing
technicaly yes ... be carefull EQ pedals can color sound even if they are flat and add some white noize ... Just chcek if you like them, over something like Clover, Orange Two Strokes or say Fender engager boost ;)
Yes,in a way it is. Some eq's can be noisy though (some more than others) A good preamp pedal would do this without adding extra noise I suppose. I have a J. Rockett Archer Ikon that is almost always on because it just makes everything after it sound better, so is a Klon on cleanish boost settings also a preamp? I bet alot of other folks use them for that as well.
An underrated “pre-amp”, Korg SDD-3000. Bypass all those delay functionalities and just use it as a pre-amp it’s beautiful.
Collective Sould. Sick of people only knowing Shine and The World I Know.... prolly dont even know they are from the same band. Underrated.
A band I love that other people usually only know a few songs from is Tonic. Their whole catalog is awesome.
And for a preamp pedal, the one in my rig is the Voodoo Labs Giggity. I have seen that the Edge used it, as well, but that's not why I got it. It does a great job of evening out sounds when changing guitars, and making my guitar sound clearer.
"Every guitar player needs a pre amp"
*look over at my pure acoustic collection* sure why not
Please release a Crimson.
The Clover looks lonely.
2 years late but would an Xotic RC Booster be a good de facto preamp? I'm liking what that FET-based Clover is doing. I have an MXR FET Driver, but I regard that as more of a boost/OD tone shaper.