It’s only 1mm wider hose, ensure you have a clean cut on the hose, I use a flat head screwdriver to open the Olive very very slightly and have no trouble getting it over the braided hose. Good luck
It would still be good to have one. I read to remove the outer plastic down to the braid for the olive but from hope they come with the olive over the plastic sheath
I agree, that's really frustrating! I've just come here to find instructions for that. I used screwdriver to open olive just a little bit to slide over but no success. In the end, when I bleed them, they are slightly leaking oil. I have one last olive, continuing to look for the best solution..
@hopetech I'm going to attempt to fit a new set of Tech 4 V4s in the next week or so, first time doing so. Is it essential to fit a new olive or can I use the one that came fitted on the brakes? I can't see any guides on fitting them with having to route one hose through the frame on your channel.
my fitting keeps leaking used new olive, insert, and copper washer. tried twice no change. I used a BH90 hose as I needed a longer one. Is that the issue? and if so what size hose do I need? thx
My experience - absolute nightmare! I would pay to see you shorten and install one of your braided hoses instead of the plastic ones. I have been through two olives already.
I fitted a a pair of "hope braided hose kits" yesterday to my 2007 Mono M4s.... It wasn't too hard; other instructionals advise stripping the plastic coating off the braided hose to fit the oliuve, but I always found that didn't give a secure fit (hose is far too easily pulled out of the connector when everything is tightened up).... Instead, just open up the olive, put it over the end of a freshly cut braided hose (just have a little patience, it will go) then open up the hose inner and insert the plug (I find tapping the barbed plug lightly with a pin hammer helps get it in nice and tight). Then push the olive to the barbed plug, and give it a squeeze with a pair of pliers to close it up so you can fit the outer connector over the top of the olive. Once I found this method, it takes me no more than 10 mins to fit each connector with brand new olives.
@@junglist_mattyahhh! Thanks for this comment I’ve been struggling as to why I can’t get the pistons to come out when fulling the break with a graded hose- this may be the issue
someone tell me why my hope brake had the copper washer was not on the top of the insert like in this video but on the bit where it goes into the hose is that why mine was leaking slightly?
My shroud was stuck to the hose, so when I went to undo it the whole hose became tangled and I wasn’t able to cut the cable as the shroud couldn’t be taken off?
ancient video...grand scheme of things, the braided was nearly as easy as plastic lines. Did a 3 x2 today, gently cut the plastic cover, cut with cable cutters, put the parts together. No leaks and works great.
It really doesn't matter. I see people singing about where the clamp is constantly. I have never once seen a bike damaged by a clamp. They are coated with soft rubber.
Bike's weight: 15Kg. My @rse's weight: 80-ish Kg. The dropper is fine. I wouldn't put an e-bike (22-26Kg) on a stand like that, but my normal bikes are fine like that. Tip: put the dropper all the way down and put it in a stand that the seat rests on the top of the stand clamp, and it also clamps on the seat post clamp and the frame. That way if you are tugging and pulling on a component you are not stressing the dropper.
You should not generally re-use the olive (if that's what you are referring to as an "insert"). They are like crush-washer, so they are crushed and deformed when installed. They have to be replaced. Both the olive and the needle.
Watched a load of these videos now - given me all the confidence needed to work on my brakes !! Love HOPE !!
Could you do a tutorial for the braded hoses? I found it impossible to fit the olive over the hose...which is far wider than a non braded hose.
cut it with a dremel
It’s only 1mm wider hose, ensure you have a clean cut on the hose, I use a flat head screwdriver to open the Olive very very slightly and have no trouble getting it over the braided hose. Good luck
It would still be good to have one. I read to remove the outer plastic down to the braid for the olive but from hope they come with the olive over the plastic sheath
I agree, that's really frustrating! I've just come here to find instructions for that. I used screwdriver to open olive just a little bit to slide over but no success. In the end, when I bleed them, they are slightly leaking oil. I have one last olive, continuing to look for the best solution..
just switch to genuine Goodridge fitting's (hoses are cross compatible, the same actually)
no problems with them
Can I use any break hose with the hope break or does it have tk be a hope hose ??
Great vid! Which cutter/s do Hope recommend for the steel braided hydraulic hose?
I used a cutting wheel. Dremel or a giant harbor freight one. 😅
How to deal with the hydraulic line rotating when tighting the connection?
Followed video easy to do but would recommend getting some of those hose clamp blocks as the hose will turn around when tightening up the diaphragm
Do the pads need to be fully open or closed, can i complete this with the wheel still installed as i have no stand ?
Is it the same steps for tech 4 levers? V4 calipers tho
How much do nip up the shroud? Is there a torque spec? Same question if adding a 90 degree banjo. What do you torque the banjo bolt to? Thank you.
8nm for the shroud and banjo
@hopetech I'm going to attempt to fit a new set of Tech 4 V4s in the next week or so, first time doing so. Is it essential to fit a new olive or can I use the one that came fitted on the brakes? I can't see any guides on fitting them with having to route one hose through the frame on your channel.
What did you do?new olive or old one?
@@carlomariotto fitted a new one
Hey! Thank you so much for the new "Ho To..." Videos. Greetings from Switzerland!
Very easy process but how do you stop hoses from twisting?
my fitting keeps leaking used new olive, insert, and copper washer. tried twice no change. I used a BH90 hose as I needed a longer one. Is that the issue? and if so what size hose do I need?
thx
Hi, drop service@hopetech.com and they'll be able to help with advice. Thanks!
@hopetech - This the same for Hope XCR's?
Do the shrouds and fitting come with the brakes upon purchase??
Yes
My experience - absolute nightmare! I would pay to see you shorten and install one of your braided hoses instead of the plastic ones. I have been through two olives already.
I fitted a a pair of "hope braided hose kits" yesterday to my 2007 Mono M4s.... It wasn't too hard; other instructionals advise stripping the plastic coating off the braided hose to fit the oliuve, but I always found that didn't give a secure fit (hose is far too easily pulled out of the connector when everything is tightened up).... Instead, just open up the olive, put it over the end of a freshly cut braided hose (just have a little patience, it will go) then open up the hose inner and insert the plug (I find tapping the barbed plug lightly with a pin hammer helps get it in nice and tight). Then push the olive to the barbed plug, and give it a squeeze with a pair of pliers to close it up so you can fit the outer connector over the top of the olive. Once I found this method, it takes me no more than 10 mins to fit each connector with brand new olives.
@@junglist_mattyahhh! Thanks for this comment I’ve been struggling as to why I can’t get the pistons to come out when fulling the break with a graded hose- this may be the issue
someone tell me why my hope brake had the copper washer was not on the top of the insert like in this video but on the bit where it goes into the hose is that why mine was leaking slightly?
Does this work on the Tech 4 aswell?
Yes
My shroud was stuck to the hose, so when I went to undo it the whole hose became tangled and I wasn’t able to cut the cable as the shroud couldn’t be taken off?
ancient video...grand scheme of things, the braided was nearly as easy as plastic lines. Did a 3 x2 today, gently cut the plastic cover, cut with cable cutters, put the parts together. No leaks and works great.
what kind of cutter do I need to shorten my braided hose?
a good pair of cable cutters will do
im good with a strong scissor...
My rear break is sponge. I've bleaded 3 times there is no air but still is soft.
Same with mine I tried tightening it up but I’ve just snapped the fitting off
Can anyone tell me or or suply a link showing me how to change 1 piston on my V4 brakes ?
Very helpful!!! Thanks Hope and Dan
is that a dropper post in the clamp? :D
it doesn’t matter
It really doesn't matter. I see people singing about where the clamp is constantly. I have never once seen a bike damaged by a clamp. They are coated with soft rubber.
Bike's weight: 15Kg. My @rse's weight: 80-ish Kg. The dropper is fine.
I wouldn't put an e-bike (22-26Kg) on a stand like that, but my normal bikes are fine like that.
Tip: put the dropper all the way down and put it in a stand that the seat rests on the top of the stand clamp, and it also clamps on the seat post clamp and the frame. That way if you are tugging and pulling on a component you are not stressing the dropper.
You would have thought a manufacturer as big as Hope would employ a better camera person.
How about braided hoses? Plastic hoses are easy to do.
Can you keep the insert of the old one ?
You should not generally re-use the olive (if that's what you are referring to as an "insert"). They are like crush-washer, so they are crushed and deformed when installed. They have to be replaced. Both the olive and the needle.
You will get away with reusing the insert. The olive must be replaced though
Dont use brake fluid to clean it! If melts most finishes
Could you zoom into somethings so we can see what you are doing somethings ain't clear to see
I agree, it was a bit hard to keep up.
I love hope tech
Braided hoses please Hope…
Don't use screwdriver for pushing out the pads. There's a proper tool for this (for example Parktool PP 1.2)
You don't need a special tool at all a flat head screw driver is absolutely fine, if you want to waste money on a tool that's upto you.
I used screwdriver for years and it's not that good as a solid tool designed for it. Screwdriver always leaves marks on pads
@@Tenpisanka then your too heavy handed or using to thin of a screw driver as I have used one for years and never marked a single pad.
Thats all very good, but how can we take advise from someone who has clamped the bike on the wrong part of the seat post?
No they haven’t? That’s fine to clamp there lol
lovely vid