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@@QuintarFarenor Oh the "CRMinistries steals all of his material from other sources" rabbithole goes way farther down than just his book, sadly. This video was entirely stolen from another source, verbatim. Nothing in this video that Emma is responding to is his own work.
I'm going to guess that around half of the viewers of this video are atheist. View count, at time of me typing this, is about half a million. That means about 250,000 atheists watched it, so I'm taking the standpoint that 250,000 viewers made a very similar prophecy... Either the abrahamic god makes atheists speak its words, OR there were a quarter of a million thinkers who extrapolated based on their own experience of believers who make that kind of video. I've got zero evidence for this argument, of course, but I'm going with my zero evidence argument. Just like the guy Emma responded to...
I feel like Emma did miss an opportunity here with the “animals don’t marry and therefore we are superior” bit. If you strip away the ceremony, what is marriage but bonding for life? Animals do that ALL THE TIME. There are many species that mate for life, and if divorce rates and incidence of extramarital affairs are any indication, they are FAR BETTER at it than we are.
Not only that but many also do have some kind of ritual like a special dance or sound they make after bonding. This isn‘t that different. The only one that came to mind is the litte mating dance a freshly bonded pair of virgin termites queen and kings do…and they too bond for life :D
Yes!! Thank you! Can we talk about animal courting and how A TON of animals mate for life?! Pretty sure animals had that down far before humans even came along.
@@Oviause0713 It isn't superior at all. Sleeping around and spreading your genes is superior. Fighting and beating others is the superior way. Humans and every other animals have been surviving for millions of years that way. Like the lady (Emma) in the video said, marriage is just a business arrangement. Humans come together and agree to respect each other and each others properties. Women were treated as property in the Bible. That is the world that Jesus grew up in. He never fought for women's rights. It is only in the 19 th century that european women decided to change the status quo.
So fun facts on the subject of this video. He is impressively arrogant yet avoids confrontation at all costs. If you say anything negative to him he will block you instantly and will block you on all media then tell everyone he dominated you in an argument despite never talking to you. He also wrote a book that has over 10 spelling errors on the cover alone.
To be fair, I believe he did say that "man" is the highest being -- so at least he's consistent in his absurdity. This also speaks to Emma's excellent point that if you can't have morals without god, then how could morals change over time? (Would imply that god made a boo-boo the first time.) Unfortunately, extreme religious zealots and bible literalists like this have *not* changed their moral code: they still live in the dark ages with beliefs like homosexuality is a sin, women are inferior to men, all other species are inferior to humans, etc. etc. This is another example of a circular argument: you can't have morality without god, and your counterpoint that it doesn't make sense for a god-given morality to change is fallacious, because morality has not changed, because the only correct moral code is what is written in the bible, which has to be true because it was written by god...
Truly disgusting. From a male, I think that was a true showing of how limited that individual's thinking is. My thinking is that there should be either 2 symbols (Female and Male) at the top of that pyramid, or maybe even better, a non specific representation of a human that doesn't imply any kind of gender. (yeah, I know - good luck working out what that symbol might look like) ...
Man r head of the household. Christian believe in family & strong value while atheist believe in selfish & worship man for god since atheist substitute man 2 be take place if god
I was taken aback by the bit where he talks about how humans are "higher" beings than other animals and shows a hierarchy. I think Emma only noticed the obvious human at the top of the pyramid, but not the fact that it was a man on top, while a woman was on the next rung down (same level as a whale)... I know creationists usually hold sexist views, but they usually aren't this explicit about it. My wife missed that initially, but now she's doing her best Dory impression.
Also scrolling through to see if anyone else had noticed this. I had to pause the video to make sure I was really seeing it. I was also very surprised that Emma didn't mention it. I think it might be a good subject for a follow-up. Come on Emma, tear into him for this. I think we'd all love to see it. "Man" is at the top of the list because of his superior brain. Put on your big boy pants, gird your loins ChristRighteous and get ready to defend yourself.
Yeah true, im not Christian per say but i do believe in the Bibles God. I can honestly say ive seen some of his vids where he mocks atheists and im like thats not very god like or christian like and its people like this that make good christians look bad and make them hate christians, great job bro ur doing the devils work lol.
@@jethrodark2372 of course you believe in the devil. Why not. You believe in an invisible magician man in the sky who sometimes grants wishes and periodically writes books. Have at it.
@@seantiz ??? I was aggreeing with u tho why so hostile? The last part was not about u but the guy in the video geez, no wonder atheist and Christians fight they hate each other cause they both want the other to believe what they do. Why cant people leave others alone let people believe what they want.
The fact that so many creationists say evolution is "just a theory" shows they never actually read or listen to anything outside their echo chamber of other creationists, all of whom know next to nothing about the very science they try to debunk.
When I was a Christian I lived in fear. "Will I get to Heaven or no? Is God happy with me?" Now, as an atheist, I feel at peace with a universe of which I am a part. This is opposite of what he says.
yea, people who say “only religion leads to happiness” probably have Stockholm syndrome Or they don’t allow themselves to be happy because it goes against what they were taught
Me too. And I am sure that the world would be a much nicer place to live without religions, if people understood that we are the only ones who can help each other.
Ironic that the verse says ' I once was blind but now I see'......it is really the other way round. People are blind when they are christians. They are like a spiritual salesman. Trained to spew out the right scripture to promote their poison.
My grandma was a devout Christian and she raised me in a Christian way… thoroughly Christian! BUT when I questioned the bible during my studies, she told me that if I had doubts about the bible I must do my research. Go to the source, study the original text, read it in the original language, then learn who translated it. She also hugely encouraged learning the history of the bible, the history of how it was put together as a book, the books that were chosen for inclusion and those that were left out. She pushed me to always be learning, encouraging me to figure out, question, research, and NOT take the first opinion as truth without reference. So just because she had true faith she always understood that others might have question. She was always beside me supporting and guiding me. I’m not a devout Christian as I did carry out my own research…. But I still thank her for every moment she was in my life 🥰
that was a truly lovely to read. Thank you for sharing. Devotion in my family bordered on lunacy....and so no similar tales. Sounds like you were blessed. If not by a fantastical Abrahamic god, then by a compassionate and loving elder.
I am so happy to know that there's someone who also experienced that. My grandma is similar in this, she's a Buddhist but she never expected me to blindly believe what she said. It's always better to ask, think, find and answer then use ways to test it. She often told me some quotes from Buddhist texts and asked me if I think it's true or false, then ask Why it's true or false, How and How can it become opposite, then finally ask what's I have learned from all the analyzing.
the only problem is that there isn't any original text that anyone has found for the bible! there is only translations of translations! and the original gospals would have been based on verbal stories that were at least 60 years old before the first gospel was written!! anyone want to play the telephone game???
Maybe you should have let her show you, you did not research properly, because you could not easily say that, if I asked you what you researched you would start googling stuff
He also uses what's called the puddle analogy, which essentially states that if a puddle woke up it would think "wow! This hole fits me perfectly! It must have been made for me!" While in reality the hole was there and water just happened to fall in. Looking at his argument he states, in essence, that if anything on earth was changed then we wouldn't exist, therefore it must have been masterfully designed with us in mind, while in reality we got lucky and were able to evolve on this giant hunk of rocks.
"while in reality we got lucky" Not even that. The vast majority of Earth is uninhabitable to humans. The oceans, the deserts, the polar regions etc are all pretty much not suitable for human life with only a few exceptions here and there. If the world was actually designed for humans, then why isn't it?
@@sasukeoutlaw9047 so he punishes them for not believing in him when he never even shows a sign of him on earth? yea thanks I'd rather burn than praise this moron.
The rise of atheists churches is odd as well. Atheists seem obsessed with the christian faith. Especially since they claim to not believe in any deity.
14:25 He refutes himself. He points out how marriage happens across practically all human populations, whether they've been exposed to the Christian God or not. This is evidence that the social nature of humanity is constant, regardless of religion.
So when exactly did God invent marriage? Was that after several dozens of generations of the exact same couple's offspring have populated all of earth, inbred into madness?
Nonono, don't you see, they're only doing that because God made it so. And then the Tower of Babel happened and people forgot about God and started worshiping false gods, but they kept marriage because God. At least that's what I'd assume his counter-argument to look like. Although, even his argument regarding animals stands on very shaky ground. There's animals that live in monogamous relationships for their entire lives, even after one partner dies. We can't speak their languages or read their thoughts, so how do we know they aren't married in the biblical sense? Just because they don't hold grand ceremonies like we do?
@@rolfs2165 it goes even further than that, there are a lot of animals, particularly birds, who have very elaborate matting rituals performed once with one partner. I don’t know about you but that sounds an awful lot like a marriage ceremony to me.
I was raised in an fundamental, evangelical, cult-like church, and I really like hearing someone just rip apart these "proofs" with actual logic. Just found your channel, and I'm so excited to keep watching!
Emma, your patience and kindness when reviewing such content is extraordinary.. holy crap.. His lack of critical framing and ignorance towards biology, evolution, philosophy, psychology, and all other observable sciences makes me want to throw my phone against the wall.. power to you!!!
There aren't contradictions in the bible. Nor is Christianity homophobic. The entire ideas are based on the new testament. You're a child who can't analyze shit.
I suffered more sadness and disappointment having faith than I did when I finally stop having faith and to be honest I kind of felt like I was brainwashed but ever since I stopped having faith I felt like a lot of weight has been lifted off my shoulders and I can finally be the person that I want to be instead of being stuck between two worlds
@@thetruebodyofchristrestored that makes no sense, that's implying that @Agent Venom just decided to take Satan's side over God. I swear you guys don't no the difference between thought or consciousness over a supernatural being placing those thoughts in you. It's like you guys have no thoughts of your own without something bigger than you influencing you.
@@yheonmercado8506 1. Since you are lost you are starting this conversation with an ego like you know what you are saying when you should not. Ask a question and learn. 2. If you are not walking with God you are automatically with Satan.
@@thetruebodyofchristrestored * Since you are lost you are starting this conversation with an ego like you know what you are saying when you should not.* So I shouldn't know what I'm talking about? Are you trying so hard to sound like you know what *you* are talking about? You could have said "Since you are lost you are starting this conversation with an ego like you know what you are saying *when you don't*. Poor attempt to make yourselves sound more sophisticated. *If you are not walking with God you are automatically with Satan.* I walk alone or with friends or family, but I don't walk with imaginary forces that your flock has created. Don't place a label on me as if you know me. I also don't need to ask questions when I can just look into your book and reaffirm as to why your God is no different than you and I...because he was created from us.
ooooh! As someone who was born and raised in a Muslim country under an ideological-autoritarian regime, I can tell you that Muslims dig up ALL manners of prophecies and "miracles" out of Quran with the same conviction as this guy has towards the Bible. Keep up the good work Emma 🖖
Yup. Plus Judaism has its own set of wildly different interpretations of all the same prophecies Christianity pulled from, and they’re vaguely more believable to me.
So glad you were able to see through the indoctrination & brainwashing. I was raised religious to, but I figured out God was fake at the age of 9 buy how the Bible resembled a wizards & warlocks comic book lol.
It is strange that all monotheist religions tend to confuse claim and evidence. Other religions are more intelligent, as they present their holy scriptures as metaphores or guidelines or visions. That way nobody can debunk oppressive rules on that basis.
Several years ago a couple of Jehovah's Witnesses knocked at my door and told me they had absolute proof that God existed. My interest was piqued, and I actually invited them in, willing to hear this so called evidence. They then proceeded to simply hold up the Bible and told me that God definitely exists because it says so in the Bible! What??!!
I had some missionary show up at my door a few years ago. It was a hot day in Australia and my then girlfriend had an idea how to make sure they didn't come back. We answered the door naked and asked them inside to discuss naturist life styles lmfao. They couldn't leave fast enough.
When I was in my older teens/young adulthood I called myself a christian and was living with someone who did the same. He invited some mormons in for a fun debate and I joined for a couple of sessions and what really got me was just how different a person Jesus is in the Book of Mormon as opposed to the Bible. Just... the character was totally off. I'm not proud about how many years later it took for me to realize "Oh, that's how Jewish people feel about the God of the Christian Bible"
Anytime I see an argument that god is real and they use the bible as evidence, I throw up my meme of a napkin with the following written on it, "the napkin religion is the one true religion because it says so right here on this napkin"
@@radschele1815 that's true too. There were two separate Gods in the original old testament that got combined together, then the God of the New Testament is significantly different from either of them and both the God and the Jesus of the book of mormon is different from the New Testament on top of that
speaking as a european, I have never met a creationist in my life and the fact that in the US it's not only viewed as a valid 'theory' but actually taught in school in place of evolution... It's simply mindboggling, yikes.
I guess you didn't travel trough Europe. Go to Vatican for example when are the Christian holidays, or go to the eastern Europe and you will see plenty of those. Or go to a church or a monastery in your own town/country.
Here in Italy even catholics school don't teach creationism, and if you ask to roman catholic priest or vatican officer they will agree that bibles only interpretation. Vatican officially agree on big bang and evolutionism. In Italy almost all who professes catholic is roman catholic. In united state i belive there are more diy christ religions...
The US doesn't teach creation in schools. Maybe private religious schools but not public. The First Amendment of our Constitution doesn't allow it (the separation of church and state).
@@ernestosuarez4499 well when your in a majority christian country that amendment is treated like a suggestion and there are real public schools in the south bible belt small towns that do teach creationism
@@MrLupoiul Creationism is not taught in any school in the European Union. The Vatican researches and agrees with the Theory of Evolution. When I spoke at length with the pastor in my local church, he told me that the church is more concerned with tradition than with science. Which sums it all up really.
I know I'm being overly pedantic here, but I still loved it when he said "we are far more intelligent than anything that god has ever created". Taken literally, that statement implies that we were not created by god.
Scientists actually believe dolphins actually use a higher % of their brain than us humans. Which... would make sense, as life originated from the ocean.
@@boriskogan7903 Thank you. Yes, I was wondering. One time at work, we had a discussion about whether it is You're Welcomed or You're Welcome. It turns out I was saying it wrong for years and it is You're Welcome.
@@michaellind9650 We use 100% of our brains, some portions of our brains are more or less active depending on what we are doing of course but we are definitely using all of it. If any portion of our brain is damaged it has serious and lasting effects, those effects depending on what part is damaged, memory, motor function, sensory processing, facial recognition, higher thought processes, etc. And if you need more evidence than that just look at the energy expenditure of our brains, roughly 10% of the calories that we burn in a day are consumed by our brains, disregarding intense exercise which would skew the percentage. Now tell me why in the hell would we have a brain that is 10X the size that it needs to be consuming massive amounts of energy for literally no reason. One downside of a larger brain is slower reaction times because of the signal delay between parts of the brain, and the biggest downside is the fact that birthing a human is unbelievably difficult compared to most other mammals, and babies come out far less well developed to have even a chance of fitting out. That's why human hips are so wide, and babies are born small and weak and helpless, they would kill every single mother otherwise. If our heads could be smaller by having a brain one-tenth the size we could have babies being born at the toddler stage. Like how a horse is born and can run around literally hours later.
This guy reminds me so much of myself in my late teens and early twenties, just parroting Evangelical talking points with no proof other than scripture itself. Don't worry, I got better.
I was raised in a deeply religious house. But I was also raised by at least moderately intelligent parents. They didn’t want me parroting ideas, but to develop my own to increase my faith. There was a time during the 80’s and 90’s when there was a big push from the church for their youth to do this. It backfired majorly. In their pursuit of knowledge a large portion of the youth researched their way straight out of their faith. Now the church is drawing back on that approach and indoctrinating the young to never question the taught faith, miseducating them on science, and turning them loose to spew their rhetoric in an attempt to strengthen their stance. This is also beginning to backfire, but instead of going back to the roots of faith in he church is now openly attacking anything that questions their smug superiority. They are calling anything that questions their misinformation as an attack on their faith, while actively trying to destroy anything that can possibly break their strangle-hold on their young. Teaching someone that it is okay to love as you wish, despite being one of the core teachings of the very person they claim to follow, is now a sin equivalent of murder. Meanwhile truly heinous acts are dismissed or ignored, all in support of “keeping the faith.”
@@akakscase I was helped on my way back in 66-67 by my Sunday school teacher who, while very devout herself, urged us to question it. She was so sure of her faith that she assumed that we would follow her path. Like you say, it backfired majorly!
I love how when they hit a brick wall they default into preacher mode. Their only tactic is to act as if they are right in their position rather than argue in good faith and accept when their premises fail.
There are easily over 2000 contradictions and what is worse, bad dogma running throughout. There are no predictions worth a grain of salt and Jesus knew nothing of Germ Theory, or that Slavery was wrong, or that Earth was the Third stone from the Son, as Jimi Hendrix. Evolution explains like a million times better. Supernovas exploding created the planets including Earth. Atheists do acknowledged that there is a Creator or Prime Move or First Cause but there is not proof that god is moral or understanding or created man; he just created the Big Bang.
Loved your responses to all his "evidence ", sure wish that more people could be saved from the insanity called religion. Oh, and you definitely nailed the adorable bunny look!
I knew a guy who told me, "you have to accept certain fallacies in the Bible to accept it as the inerrant word of God." I was so stunned and had no idea how to respond to that. He also couldn't understand that people who don't have a higher power have morals and ethics, and went on to say, well if I don't have God, I will commit awful atrocities, because there are no morals...
Only the immoral commit immoral atrocities. But serving in God's holy name makes anything legal, no? Yes ... welcome to the Inquisition then, take a number and await your stake ...
Our morality is the ability to determine truth from lies. religion has taught me that all religion is lies... there is no true worship that pleases god. The moral decision is that religion is wrong, god has no stake in our world. Our morals are the result of random selection and we instinctly know right from wrong because of our Vagus nervous system..ie, use your gut.
Me trying to think of what to say constructively rather than ranting, then realising I don’t need to as Emma does a smashing job. I love your videos. My husband and son always listen in as they love your content too 🐥
The Telltale Atheist explained in one of his newer videos something that really touched me: That more Atheists need to Run for Office. Not only did he not just state it but make great Arguments, but he even provided Ways to learn how to run for Office.
This guy responded to Logicked by not addressing any of his points and instead opting for personal attacks on his kids/parenting and appeals to emotion. So..... yeah that's the caliber of person we're in for here. Lol
He's parroting an article written 9 years ago by a guy named Joshua Infantado. He's not even bothering to change the wording, nor give the author credit. Lazy and dishonest apologist.
@@shmeblee2317 You should see Logicked take down "his" "book". Major editing problems and major plagiarism problems. So, I'm not really surprised by him just parroting someone else here.
It's quite refreshing to hear you getting forceful and adamant in your rebuttal. I've just had to get a new phone and I'm rediscovering the channels I love. This is one of them and hearing you just lambast silly arguments is excellent
There are animals that mate for life - and I would also argue that humans participating in monogamous & exclusive relationships for life is more rare, than we as a society, like to think. Grey Wolves, Eurasian Beavers, Bald Eagles, Sandhill Cranes, Macaroni Penguins and Barn Owls... just to name a few.
@@bigskypioneer1898 Humans don't really have the typical hallmarks of a lifetime monogamous species. It is mind-boggling that we have let religions try to trick us and force us into thinking we are and acting like we are.
"The word of God is perfect and un-mistakable!" "Skeptics are just misinterpreting the word of God!" ... How can it be open to misinterpretation if it's perfect and unmistakable? That itself is yet another contradiction... Just seconds after you claim there are no contradictions! How is he able to say this without realizing? It's so stupid it's actually making me angry...
This has always been a strong sticking point of mine. If the word of God is supposed to be absolute and universal.... why would a God who wanted that choose literature to spread said word. Literature by its very nature will be interrupted in different ways by different readers.
@@jezebeltryst5444 It's frustrating for someone who's looked into the history and origins of the cult of YHWH (I mean that in the same way I'd speak of the cult or Baal, or Isis.) The whole 'omnipotent, omnicient, one true god' thing came MUCH later after a few ancient Judaic kings allied with the cult of YHWH realized it'd be easier to control their populaces if they only had to placate one priesthood.
Strangely I am a perfectly happy atheist, infact if I had been forced or forced myself into some biblical literalism I'd be deeply unhappy as I am trans. I'd be stuck living a life that I didn't want to live, or forcibly cured. Thanks again for providing a well ballanced counterpoint to them. Mel xx
You cannot be “cured” of something that isn’t wrong to begin with. I know you don’t have a better word for it, but maybe next time put it in parentheses or something because we all know it is hogwash, even if others believe it. Don’t degrade yourself or others by even hinting that there is something to cure. You are you, and as long as you are living a happy life without harming others, the short sighted self righteous bigots can go bugger themselves.
I know a trans kid that has some problems now with society not accepting him. It feels good to know that he can be happy too, thanks a lot for these few words.
I'm the owner of a small Software/Hardware consulting firm and one of my employees started their transition around the time Covid-19 first showed up. Purely from a business standpoint one of the things that I have noticed is that prior to her starting her transition she was an average employee; now she is one of my best employees based upon quality and quantity of her work. In March of this year I have promoted her to a senior position and honestly prior to her transition I didn't think she would have been capable of being moved into a senior position. It is almost as if living her life as she meant to live it has given her a new found energy and joy in other aspects of her life. It is my understanding that later this year or early next year she will being having her gender confirmation surgery.
Emma your such a wonderful person! Love how you strike out all the godly arguments of others. Keep up the good work. Regards Eltjo From one of the happiest athiest countries the Netherlands
This guy will probably never read any book with science in it because it will conflict with his "book". He's the worst type of Christian that is so indoctrinated, I doubt he would consider anyone else's opinion.
This guy has obviously lived a very sheltered life, since he's putting this "Baby's first apologetics" stuff out with such confidence. Edit: I've now looked into this guy a lot more and he gives off a number of warning signs. He displays strong traits from the Dark Triad of personality traits, being manipulative, narcissistic and displays pleasure when pushing others down. He will absolutely abuse his child when it's born.
Demarkil, He needs to understand you can't steal other people's ideas as your own. I offered to proof his next one lol. He is going to need a lawyer unless about 20 authors decide not to press charges.
Hey Hey Hey we don't talk about Elf Dawkins this way... He is a very serious thinker... And he is very good with the think. And his book does not write existence wrong twice in different ways on the back side..
I suspect he's lived a rather harsh life. He sounds like a "crisis convert", someone that was converted during a religion-based 12-step program or youth crisis outreach. Some of his other videos hint that he got into some stuff that probably caught the attention of law enforcement and the justice system.
Whenever this guy talks about his 'proofs' for the existence of god, I keep thinking back to that one scene from The Princess Bride. "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." -Inigo Montoya.
Many atheists insist on erecting elaborate arguments and systems of thought around some false truth they're attempting to prove. If there is no God, and all faith is falsehood, and eternity is random then what's the purpose of you obsessing over what Christians believe?
@@calliope4293 Do I care when someone believes in leprechauns? Not particularly. Do I care when the leprechaun that they believe in has been telling that person to burn down a person's home? I care when it influences another to do harm.
When I around 10-12, my parents made me go to 'confirmation classes'. I always thought them ridiculous but was told by my mother that "you'll thank me later". Sixty years on, I'm still waiting to be enlightened, still think confirmation classes are ridiculous (as is the intent behind them), and have yet to be thankful to my mother for making me go. I'm an engineer/scientist. I believe things that I have proof of, reserve judgement on things that are unproven either way but I feel could be possible, and disbelieve anything else. God is firmly in the 'anything else' camp - ridiculous idea based on the ignorance of ancient societies.
He lost me at Ev. no 2, I just cannot describe how he is wrong about biology on so many levels. I also love the 10:26 graphic with man being positioned above a woman and a whale:)
@@PeterHyder Women don’t have much value in judaism and religions derived from judaism. These are misogynistic religions. For example: 1 Corinthians 11:7 KING JAMES VERSION For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. {11:8} For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. {11:9} Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. {11:10} For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. {11:11} Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord. {11:12} For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of god. {11:13} Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered? {11:14} Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? {11:15} But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering. {11:16} But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God. ^^^^^These lines claim that (a) woman is (are) a product of (a) man. It is clearly referring to the Garden of Eden story. This is the beginning steps that the jewish god takes. It is a critical moment since this step determines the view that the followers of his religion take with respect to women. Of course, this religion is man made and when I say man made, I am referring to males. They have designed their religion in their own image. The followers of the jewish religion from the time period when 1 Corinthians was written, were certainly literalists. In other words, they literally believed that there was a Garden of Eden and all the descriptions of the book of Genesis. The book of Genesis contains clues for them. The creation of man first and the woman being an afterthought gives them clues as to the attitude of the jewish god towards woman. This becomes an excuse for the authors of 1 Corinthians and the rest to devalue women. I don’t know what that silly line about “power on her head because of the angels” is suppose to be. {11:10} Anyway, the author recognizes that for a man to reproduce, he needs women. {11:11} {11:12} is about the guy confessing that men need women and vice-versa. Again, probably he is thinking about reproduction. These guys have a big issue with hair. Little trivial things such as the hair on your head has somehow become a big issue in ancient jewish culture apparently. They don’t like it if a woman prays without her hair being covered. They also claim that the hair of a woman covers her head so I don’t know, maybe the author is suggesting it is fine for a woman to pray without a cloth covering her head. They believe that it is shameful for a man to have long hair. This would be the equivalent of a man wearing a dress, a skirt or a bra in modern society. Most of us would find him weird.
@@justsomebloke6784 I can only imagine how many atheists have left him comments on his videos. I say imagine, as he doesn't allow them to post publicly. He only wants comments that 'love' what he says.
Hi Emma, first time here, I find it " miraculous" you have the patience, to talk to these people. I can't, unless they're family members, it's ongoing, I was Christian, for 40+ years, what a waste of time, it's also good to hear an English voice. I enjoyed your reasoning and taking the piss out of this clown.😂😂
Every time I hear this guy say "proof of god", I feel like Inigo Montoya when he says to Vincini "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
i liked how he characterized skeptics as "on their toes," when most of us are kind of bored out of our minds at the same 3 arguments over and over and dont even raise an eyebrow at any of the nonesense hes talking about. its his crowd scrambling and scrounging for some way to interpret things and twist them to somehow support their beliefs they so desperately want to cling to.
@Fk Yu Right?? I'm with you both on this point. It's sad how woefully incapable apologists are of forming new arguments to support their beliefs. ...almost like there's no rational basis for them.
Honestly it's why you're better off listening to accredited biblical historians, theologians, and archeologists. People who spend their lives exploring the history, and philosophical evolution. These are people who have made it a vocation to consider the angles of belief and worship and tend to be much more introspective and interesting to talk to. These guys really aren't helped by the fact that I can't tell if half of them are serious or just grifting.
@@idigamstudios7463 indeed. This is what I think of folk like this guy and the Matt Powell types. I genuinely think those like the Hovinds are too deep down the rabbit hole to know any better, but the Powell types use arguments that are so detached from even the basics of science, that I’m almost certain they know it’s nonsense. It’s all just about getting views on TH-cam and selling garbage to those silly enough to lap it up.
"There are no other books in the history of man that contain future events and records being fulfilled." This guy has clearly never heard of Nostradamus. Also, his arguments basically boil down to: "If Christians say that the sky is red, then skeptics have to accept that the sky is red."
Please don't use the word Christian in that context. Yeshua said, "many shall come in my name but I do not know them." A real Christian would never force their belief onto another. A real Christian would share what they know, how and why they know it like that and leave it at that. A real Christian doesn't use force nor manipulates. A real Christian supports and lives by Free Will. It's Your choice to make up your own mind. A real Christian is just a messenger not an indoctrinator. What makes a Christian a Christian? Their belief? Maybe, but not necessarily. What makes a Christian an actual Christian is their daily walk and relationship with Yahweh - Yeshua. Each to their own!
@@skilz8098 While I'm sure it's comforting for you to think that way, the history of Christianity's spread is through force, fear, and coercion. The Romans forced conversion at the point of a sword; inquisitors enforced obedience with torture and the threat of execution. The entire premise of Christian faith is "Do what we tell you or suffer eternal damnation." As a block, Christianity is responsible for more death and destruction than every other religion combined.
@@skilz8098 *"A real Christian would never force their belief onto another."* A) Sadly, the _Not A True Scotsman Fallacy_ is is neither new nor quaint. B1) Take your wannabe internal civil war about which Christian believes in the right way to Christians. It's their task to figure it out. B2) Or figure out a way to reliably and without bias figure out which Christian is correct and which isn't. C) While you're at it, have fun proving Free Will even exists. D) As well as fixing your contradictions. *"What makes a Christian an actual Christian is their daily walk and relationship with Yahweh - Yeshua. Each to their own!"* So a "real Christian" who has their "daily walk and relationship" with God can use force and manipulate, or does "to each their own" not extend past "what you think is right"? ;)
@@cy-one Let's say you are traveling one day randomonly just for the country drive. You have no direct destination in mind. You come to a T junction in the road. You can decide to go left or you can decide to go right. Nothing is stopping you or forcing you to go either direction. That's Free Will. You can choose to go to work or to stay home. You can choose to do this or that. There is no contradiction. I'll share what I understand and believe and how and why I understand it. It's up to the other person to take it or leave it. I don't force my beliefs on to them. I simply plant a seed and will walk away. And your counterexamples is why we are to remain vigilant seeking out his wisdom in order to have discernment. I had the choice to either completely ignore your reply or to respond to it. I simply chose to respond.
This guy's plagiarism in his book infuriated Logicked so much that he split the review of that book into two parts, and he even skipped over some of it!
@@mrk4022 If you count the two-part episode with Rags where they discussed the dubious nature of the book's reviews, there's almost three hours of content just relating to that book. I don't know how Logicked did it without losing his shit completely. There should have been a plagiarism counter, as well as perhaps a counter for every time it was evident that Almando should have used some of that "ministry" money for an editor.
I got as far as no.1. Anybody who starts their "proofs" with fulfilled prophecy does you the favour of letting you know that they are not to be taken seriously.
Why? The future is unknowable to all but the creator of all things as he is the one who destines all things. Logically prophecy is greatest of all proofs. Explain yourself.
@@trumenfreight6055 Indeed it would be if it could be proven to be accurate at all times which it certainly isn't. Can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the prophecies were made before the event which not all can be and don't have people actively working to make prophecies come true which there certainly were. I've seen a Hebrew bible expert rip apart the supposed prophecies of Jesus like a dog with a roast chicken. It takes some serious mental gymnastics and select reading (really cherry picking) to get to Jesus from the OT prophecies that were about completely different people hundreds of years before the time of Jesus. Most of which "came to pass" back then.
@@trumenfreight6055 Its kind of like saying that JK Rowling is a prophet because she had a prophecy in her book that is later fulfilled. It's nor impressive to make up a prophecy and then have on of your character's fulfill it. It's also not impressive to make a super vague prediction and then have people later say that it came true while they actively look for ways to prove it true. The problem with "prophecy" is that it looks really unimpressive to anyone who didn't already believe it was true
@@trumenfreight6055 Also people tend to ignore the prophecies that are wrong or don't happen and only focus on the very few that come to fruition. All prophets. Yes ALL, have always had more misfires, lies not happen, and moving goal posts then being correct about the future.
I was brought up in an evangelical household. I was confused, unsure of myself and definitely not happy. Now I am an atheist and I'm very happy. I do not live my life in fear of eternal torment.
All religious beliefs and faiths, is in reality just ancient superstitious fear mongering bullshit, and most of all, mental, emotional and social slavery, which conditions & programs human beings to repress & suppress their true unique individualities. All religions follow the same concept of conformity and uniformity, just like in the military, where we are not allowed to think, feel & live for ourselves. 🤦♀️🤷♂️🤷♀️🤦♂️
Once you get rid of the idea of eternal torment, there is no longer anything to fear. I went through the same transition, but fortunately it happened as I developed the capacity to engage in abstract thought in my early teens. I never really had a period of congnitive dissonance. Once I could think I just bailed out. My parents were distressed, but they knew they could not do anything to change me. They did their best to indoctrinate me, but all it did was innoculate me!
Logicked covered the book(s). The debunk of the books pretty much showed they were lifted, barely credited, from other apologists. And he could only get it published and "verified" on a site that is debatably dishonest.
After several decades of experience and interactions with different "apologets", I have come to the conclusion that there are just two basic variants. A) The Grifter, who is trying the convince their audience that what they have been taught to believe is true, so that they will continue to support the grifter. B) The Doubter, who is trying to convince themself that what they have been taught to believe is true, so that they will escape some undesirable (real or imagined) consequences.
This guy's "irrefutable evidence number 4" reminds me a bit of the conversation I had with my mom the day she finally got up the courage to ask if I believed in god anymore. One of the first points she tried to use against me as "evidence" was that archeologists found remains of lost cities mentioned in the Bible so obviously it was a factual. She really didn't like my point of the possibility of Christian archeologists maybe naming locations based on biblical accounts of cities or the fact that fiction writers, even into current times, write fictions and place them in real cities or towns because that's what they know, have seen or inspired them and bringing up the specific example of Stephen King's "The Shining" being influenced by the hotel he happened to be at.
Les Miserables, The Three Musketeers and a Tale of Two Cities all set around real proven historical events which is how we know all the characters in those books were real people who absolutely did the things those books said they did.
Thanks for being you, Emma T! We need more, and more easily available, people like you online. I'm just an anonymous Joe Egg, but with just enough of a modicum of common sense to see the good sense in what you're saying. A few observations (which with my luck you probably already know by heart) in support of what you're saying: 1) Edgar Cayce (trance medium, just enough [not nearly all] of whose clairsentient predictions proved correct, making him the object of repeated investigations into the area of expanded awareness and its applications, and unfortunately the recipient of much distortion of his ability into a spiritual icon): "Religion is mankind's oldest excuse for avoiding true spirituality." 2) George Bernard Shaw (I feel I should apologize in advance for the source, in that he's been to a certain extent rightly blamed for fanning the inhuman flames of misogyny): From his somewhat faulted but still instructive play about down-to-Earth, practical spirituality, "Don Juan In Hell" (a.k.a. "Man and Superman", Act III): Lucifer: "An Englishman thinks he is being moral when he is only making himself uncomfortable." Same character later on: "What is man's religion? An excuse for hating me. What is his law? An excuse for hanging you. What is his morality? Gentility! An excuse for consuming without producing. What is his art? An excuse for gloating over pictures of slaughter. What are his politics? Either the worship of a despot because a despot can kill, or parliamentary cockfighting. I spent an evening recently in a certain celebrated legislature, and heard the pot lecturing the kettle for its blackness and ministers answering questions. When I left, I chalked up on the door the old nursery saying, 'Ask no questions, and you'll be told no lies.'" 3) Dr. Sir Arthur C. Clarke, in the last segment of his documentary, "Arthur C. Clarke's Mysterious World": "Not only is the universe stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we CAN imagine." 4) Robert Heinlein, in his novel, "Time Enough For Love", through the notes of the 6,000-year-old man, Lazarus Long: "The gods of most Earthly religions have all the intelligence, manners and morals of a spoiled child." Later in the same notes: "God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent. It says so right here on the label. If you have a mind capable of believing in any of this, I have a great bargain for you, but no checks, please, cash only and in small bills!" Finally, and given what you and all sensible people understand, "For a 'God' who is supposedly all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-forgiving, the 'God' of the Old and New Testaments and apparently the Quran is so insecure, he has an ungodly inferiority complex about his penis, especially regarding the attitudes of self-respecting people towards it, like sensible males, women and children!!!" (Yours Truly). In short, Emma T., keep up the good work, and I dearly hope numerous more people than before give you their honest attention!
I love how people keep saying there are no contradictions in the bible when it very clearly does. It reminds me of one of my favorite Simpsons quotes: Flanders: "I did everything the bible said, even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff."
Sure there are. But admitting leads those blind believers of the word without contextual interpretation into existential problems. So they don‘t give any way to it
Even the birthdate of Jesus cannot be right because two different sources name different historical references having 10 years between them. The Bible is a mammary oral based transscription though centuries. Believing this all to be the direct words of god is completely delusional. And I say that as a Christian! But if Anericans blindly call Trump Jesus 2.0 or descent of gif they clearly violate their own commandments m. Well …
GOD IS LOVE. 1 john 4.7-21.... LOVE IS NOT JEALOUS. 1 corinthians 13.4-7.... I AM A JEALOUS GOD. exodus 20.5.... plenty of CONTRADICTORY NONSENSE in the bible, provided you a NOT a brainwashed idiot ....
If these hardcore evangelicals accept that there are contradictions in the bible, they have to abandon the idea of a perfect book, describing the perfect deity - which in turn proofs the non-existence of their god. So they will rather cling on to living in denial, ignoring the facts and cherry picking the biblical "truths" suitable for the given situation they find themself in.
I once asked a born again christian if god could make a rock that he couldn’t lift. They replied, “Yes!” without hesitation. “Yes!” was also the answer when I asked if god could lift such a rock. Contradictions are apparently PROOF of god. So of course the bible is full of them. It’s a good thing your sarcasm is stronger than your frustration, because you’ll never get a level game from these people. Keep up the “bad” work! Love you! There, I said it too, does that make it less awkward?
"no human could have created the moral code in the bible" Hammurabi would like a word. That is, unless you want to claim that _his_ gods were real and _they_ came up with the moral system on the stelae. Bit of a catch 22 there. It's amazing how confidently people make claims when they have zero education on the subject.
@Fk Yu That show had quite a number of brilliant points of rationality draped in humor. My favorite was the "missing link" bit where someone keeps pushing back to the professor's words on evolution. He keeps saying "but where's the missing link between us and ____" to which the professor responds with the intermediary species, over and over again until finally completing all links of our progression from early apes. "Fine! You got me there!"
The whole "Undeniable Proof" being the opposite of faith thing always reminds me of Hitchhiker's Guide and the Babel Fish argument. The idea that if there was undeniable proof, then there would be no faith, and without faith, God is nothing. As such, undeniable proof immediately disproves God. "And he promptly vanished in a puff of logic."
I feel like it deserves to be quoted in full. 🙂 “The argument goes something like this: ‘I refuse to prove that I exist,’ says God, ‘for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.’ “ ‘But,’ says Man, ‘the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn’t it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don’t. QED.’ “ ‘Oh dear,’ says God, ‘I hadn’t thought of that,’ and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic. “ ‘Oh, that was easy,’ says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.”
ironic that proof of god proves god does not exist. The paradox defies logic and in this defiance the only correct assumption is there is no god, never was and never will be so waste your faith and belief on an empty lie.
They need to find the missing pages of the bible that says: This is a work of fiction. Names, characters, businesses, places, events, locales, and incidents are either the products of the author’s imagination or used in a fictitious manner. Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events is purely coincidental.
Not even Immanuel Kant, arguably one of the most influential philosophers of all time, could succeed in making the case for the existence of a divine creator. Something tells me this fellah ain't going to convincincing either.
I'd sum up his argument as that you cannot objective prove something that is beyond the system you are experiencing from within the system you experiencing. This would for example also apply to theories such as a simulated universe or even just plain old gravity experiments ... while being on a moving elevator. And he says that if a God exists, he would be similarly beyond our experience. He then reasons that what we experience cannot be all there is to it, and that something must exist beyond. And then wants to prove that that would be God. But ... he kinda veers off at that point and instead actually tries to make a case for objective morale (categorical imperative and all that stuff).
Descartes created a proof for God in his Meditations. Now I don’t find his proof to be valid, but many philosophers who are religious will usr that one as a proof
I absolutely understand not wanting to cover him further. I find his content particularly difficult to watch. He seems to have learned the arrogance and condescension of apologists without actually learning the arguments beyond the most surface level... to say nothing of understanding any other worldview.
You mentioned this guy’s payment apps, and the fact that he calls himself a ministry. Assuming he is an American(judging by the accent), this totally strikes me as a tax dodge. It’s ridiculously easy to become a church or ministry in the US, and then you don’t have to pay taxes.
Tax dodge/scam. I find it hard to believe that people like this actually believe what they're peddling when they ignore things like, "it's harder for a rich man to enter heaven than for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle," or whatever it says.
There was a time in college when I was convinced by an evangelical church organization to become a missionary. They were very much the type of Christians that use out of context verses to sell a narrative, and ironically, it wasnt until my first mission trip that led me down the path to becoming agnostic. If you study the bible, instead of individual verses at a time, you start to see the cracks. Someone once said "the single strongest cause of atheism is christianity," and I know that all too well.
Personally it was reading the book of Job that started to crumble the super belief that is christianity. I firmly do not believe the average christian will actually read much more than the selected texts as it's being read to them.
@@Klust413 As someone who grew up in Catholic school, Job did it for me as well. The entire book is that god killed a man's family, physically and mentally tortured him, all because the devil double-dog dared him to and that he wouldn't forsake god. And at the end god, just goes, "It was all a prank, bro!" and gives him it all back? Fuck that.
I was already having doubts but then I read Genesis, and then the four gospels in their entirety... Those are actually the best parts of the Bible but even they can't withstand a shred of scrutiny. Yeah reading the Bible is definitely a good reason to become an atheist.
Thanks for your video Emma. I was raised in a family with a take it or leave it attitude towards religion although Jesus was always in the background in a very simplistic way. Later in life I became a catholic (must have been one of my off days), and remained so for 20 years. However after a while I I noticed I was becoming a little depressed and traced it back to my natural curiosity and inclinations to investigate the world in general. In January 2017, thanks to the internet, I had what I call my week of `divine revelation in reverse`, or my week of enlightenment. My conflict of reality and what the catholic church taught was the reason for my depression. To cut a long story short I am now a happy and content individual who takes pleasure in the natural world around me and get on so much better with others. It was a tough decision to discard my `faith` but well worth it and there is no turning back. Like your videos immensely. Best wishes to you.
Emma…..YOU ROCK! As an Atheist…I have watched a lot of channels but yours is real and fun. Thanks! And God Bless! 😂😂😂🤣😂😝😝 BTW…your frustration is what I share with you. My wife thinks I get upset for no reason…. But you get it.
Happily atheistic Dane here can confirm that despite Christianity being our official religion, we're generally profoundly secular and it's working out quite well 10/10 can recommend
The father of a friend's proof of a god: He was working on a jigsaw puzzle using the usual strategy of first finding and assembling all the straight-edge pieces. He had found all but one edge piece and decided to pray to god to show him where was the last edge piece. When actually, he prayed to St. Anthony, the patron saint of lost things. Knowing that Anthony would need a little time to pass the request on to God, the man took a break from the puzzle and had lunch. After lunch, he decided to continue with assembling the puzzle as if he had completed the edges. Some time passed by and there he was, not looking for the last edge piece when, lo and behold, he found it, just sitting there near his fingers! Proof of God!
Great video and good constructive arguments. I once lived with a Muslim friend at Uni who found out I was an Atheist (I prefer Realist) and in shock, he actually said "But I don't understand, you're a good person" to which I responded, "I don't need a book to tell me not to be a dick to people". He seemed happy with the response :). I do find it kind of terrifying that 85% of the Human population claim to be religious, especially when Religious Fighting is one of the biggest killers of Humans throughout history. Can't even blame low IQs as there are plenty of intelligent believers, guess it just shows how powerful brainwashing can be?
It's funny. When he was going through "people can only be happy when they know God, just imagine what a paradise the world would be if everyone believed" I thought to myself - okay, lets think about the history of Europe, where most people believed in God, and people who openly said they didn't could get themselves into serious trouble. Was *that* world a paradise of everyone behaving morally to each other and no-one having wars or anything? Or were there loads of wars, lots of christian soldiers fighting against other Christians for all kinds of reasons, sieges involving christian people who were servants of the wrong Lord or King being starved to death, and also people being burned or tortured for their beliefs because one set of people thought that another set of people had heretical beliefs. So, no, the evidence suggests that when the vast majority are Christian those societies are *not* in fact paradise on Earth.
@@paulhammond6978 the 30 year war es considered the worst war until ww1. And it es started because of disputes between protestants and catholics. 😬 And it literally lasted 30 years. 1618 to 1648.
Dear John, I'm an Atheist, too. But please don't shit on religion. Faith is not about being realistic but about giving things a reason. Christian people in the USA are dumb mofos. This guy above is the abomination of the kind of religious people who confuse faith with knowledge. It is not the same. I don't see anything wrong with people wanting a purpose in life. The structures are the problem here, but you can have that with any faith, modern gurus are quite the proof. Anyway, my point is: you're not a clever little man to not believe.
As a citizen of The Netherlands I understand this lack of logic and lack of even level headed understanding of cause and effect. It is the lack that results from a) indoctrination at school and church, b) the missing discussion courses in school and c) the fact that people at home and in the street do not have conversations anymore. They fiddle their phones and thumbup/thumbdown on their socials. As usual since WW II, we in Europe import all this. The scary thing is, that reasoning slides off their superior brain like water from a duck.
Not cringing, you are indeed adorable. I admire your wit, systematic reasoning, and humor. You are brilliant. I am a theist and like you I find videos like his cringy and hard to watch. Thank you for your authenticity.
I don't think I have ever seen a person so unjustifiably convinced of his own intellect. I can't fathom how shallow someone has to be to consider such kindergarten apologetics convincing. I'm genuinely surprised he didn't mention Pascal's Wager at some point.
@@keirfarnum6811 "Pascal's Wager"... Blaise Pascal was a philospher who suggested that it was better to believe in god, because if he didn't exist, you would lose nothing, but if it turned out there was a god, then you would not be sent to hell for eternity... LOTS of problems with this proposition... not least of which is the notion that god would accept such a peurile pretense at belief and not see through it. Then there's the question of how would anyone know which god to believe in, there are thousands of them! Pascal was, of course, presupposing the Christian god he had been brought up to believe in. Don't mention it! ;)
@@theseustoo Plus which god so you gamble with. There are many many gods and religious texts. Why would the text he believes in be the real one over others.
Like the "oort cloud" and evolution! Great job. Call upon the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be SAVED! Neither is there salvation in any other! Jesus Christ is the truth, the way, and the life!
Well it can be. But whether something is asserted or dismissed does not affect whether it's true or not. It's not the killer quote that some people think it is.
@@waspoppin4784 That's just a lie. It shows you haven't thought about it. We have the TESTIMONY across THOUSANDS OF YEARS. All the prophets bore witness of Jesus Christ. Testimony and observation is what science is supposed to use. All the fields of science founded by Christians. God teaches men knowledge. Now NOT one evolutionist on planet earth will EVER TESTIFY to seeing a chimp transform into a human being. So that means you have a BLIND FAITH. We will always have more than the evolutionists. But it only gets more obvious from there. Be honest. Which have you SEEN? An animal TALK or "punctuated equilibrium"? Be honest. Which have you SEEN? A whale living in water like a FISH or a whale walking around on LEGS like a COW? Which have SEEN? A RAINBOW ONLY ON EARTH as bible told you before the telescope existed or the IMAGINARY "oort cloud"? Which is REALITY and which is your IMAGINATION? Evolution is NOT "science". It is the false so called "science" that you were warned about thousands of years ago in the bible that DENIES the worldwide flood and tries to lessen the glory of God to a corruptible creature. You were warned in advance so you would not be deceived. Jesus loves you! Your life is precious! "darwin" died and stayed dead. You won't "evolve" out of it despite what the liars tell you. Jesus Christ DEFEATED DEATH! Neither is there salvation in any other! Jesus loves you!
I'm an agnostic theist, and happily admit there's a ton of shit I do NOT know. I have reasons to believe what I do, but I call it *belief* for a reason. I don't know that my reasons would be sufficient to convince anyone else, and I'm not about to say anyone needs to believe as I do. I once was a devout fundamental Christian and seriously, all such are way more mental than Christian, including myself at that period in my life. Fortunately, it *is* possible to deconstruct and move in a more sane direction.
I've seen a couple videos on his book. Misspellings galore, formatting issues, and by all accounts, plagiarism. He's a fun one and a great example to us all.
The Telltale Atheist explained in one of his newer videos something that really touched me: That more Atheists need to Run for Office. Not only did he not just state it but make great Arguments, but he even provided Ways to learn how to run for Office.
You nailed it. So many reasons to not just accept some religion as fact, but the simplest is just that they want to claim the word "Faith" and still want to claim there is irrefutable evidence as well. You don't need one if you have the other.
Antony Flew (according to his wikipedia article) argued not just against a Christian god, but for Atheism from age 15 to about age 81, when he changed his mind and began believing in a god. At age 87 he died suffering from Dementia. What's the argument again? Also congratulations to all women for scoring rank two in creation, alongside whales. lol.
@@richardscottmills Except in Gen 1:26-28 when God made people together, "So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them."
@@RustyWalker Can't find that one -- only verses like "And God said, Let us make man according to our image and likeness" (ESV) and "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness" (KJV) where the gods (plural) :0 -- need I say more?
I'm in my 30s, I grew up in the American South, like... I'm the trail end of the last great church going generation. In my life I went from being an avowed christian to not being that, and I've watched as almost every single church institution completely collapsed under controversy and hypocrisy bar very few. So seeing in 2022, that there is still some person young trying to arguing literal interpretations like... It's just baffling. I literally cannot fathom what life experience they went through, necessary to make them so sheltered as to look at the absolute crater that is Christianity in 2022, and go: "Yes, this looks real." Someone in their 60s or something, they are just there from inertia. But the young man that is the topic of this video? Come on. Props on the vid examining it.
@@unamusedcaveman9235 that you have had countless sex abuse scandals, televangelists stealing Money from millions, church politicization to the nth degree, the rise of business church prosperity gospel, and declining church pop all the way through reducing money and community throughout. Methodists had a major exodus of members, catholic churches that dominated some European countries 40 years ago are seeing unbelievable droppoffs in attendance, and the LCMS lutheran church is running out of ministers... And those are three examples in directly know about because of personal involvement. Again, its a crater at this point, where 30 years ago it was an institution.
@@ash12181987 I agree, there have been various scandals among church members throughout history. But surely you can't seriously suggest an entire concept in and of itself is false just because a handful of its adherents happen to be involved in scandals? That would be intellectual dishonesty. In order to disprove Christianity you need to evaluate its teachings and doctrines independently of those who profess themselves to be Christian.
@@unamusedcaveman9235 no, that's whatever arbitrary hurdle you gleaned from some pro-religious personality, as a talking point to throw at people who you feel the need to debunk. I don't really care what any of that actually means. If you want to gloss over lots of sexual abuse, and the like 5 other things as 'oh its just a few people' then bully for you. It exists, and just writing it off is kind of the hypocritical galaxy brained thinking that lead to the catholic sex scandal becoming a big as it did. It makes Christians look aloof and smug.
Finally TH-cam’s algorithm worked well! So happy to have found you. This guy just breaks my heart, although the hands toward the end scream “I fancy myself a preacher” which concerns me. I used to be just like that, parroting others, but now I’m an atheist.
13:14 "Why couldn't he just shut the door while he was filming?" Perhaps his parents are fed up with his behaviour, and have told him "No more shutting us out of your room".
A few years ago, I would have swallowed this whole. It's only recently that I realized that I started with the statement of 'The bible is true' and looked for proof of that. Anything that disagreed was immediately dismissed as a hoax or lie. But finding actual facts requires starting with no 'truth' and looking at the proof with an open mind, and drawing a conclusion from the most reliable data. Which is why I'm now agnostic/pagan lmao
The Bible explanation: "In the beginning a Hebrew desert god named Yahweh created the heavens and the earth." A better explanation: The Cosmos had no Creator or beginning it always was.
For myself at least, the act of writing down my beliefs led to a more honest examination of said beliefs. The cascading result of crossing a line through the very first conviction I didn't actually hold was ultimately a complete re-examination of everything I thought I held true but clearly no longer did. I suspect it might be a good time to try this exercise again to take stock of my current beliefs, not only to reference where I once was but also to determine if I'm still on the same course I believe I am. Good luck on your journey.
My mother was a Catholic and my father was raised in a Christian household (though he is an atheist). I believed in god when I was young but then my mother died when i was 9, withering away in a hospital. When that happened I began questioning the existence of such an all powerful being as my mother was very devout, and I thought why didn’t this all powerful being save her? Why weren’t our prayers for her answered? My worldview was permanently changed after this, and anyone who told me it was “gods plan,” or “everything happens for a reason,” and even worse “she’s in a better place,” infuriated me. At that moment I became an atheist, and I’ve been happier ever since. I live my life as I so please as it’s the only one we get. Then I found George Carlin and Christopher Hitchens, who each solidified my position even more so! There never was a god, there have only ever been people trying to control their fellow men and women through fear. Socrates (if he existed) said it best “anyone who tells you what happens after death is either lying to you or a fool.” Even if it wasn’t Socrates who said it, the statement remains just as true.
Funnily enough, that determination to draw such a hard, vast line between human beings and the rest of the animal kingdom which is so prevalent throughout Christianity, is actually the initial thing that got me questioning it as a kid. Like yeah, duh, of course there are tons of things that make us unique as a species. But using those differences to justify believing that animals don't have *any* worth or meaning at all is something that's always boggled my mind, especially as someone who has spent their entire life surrounded by animals who, despite our differences, have clearly all been individuals with their own personalities and feelings. And like you said, if this guy is right, then what was the point of God creating them in the first place? Also I don't care how great any afterlife might be - if it's only humans there and no animals then frankly that kinda sounds like hell lol
Bingo!!! My wife and I agree that animals are more noble than people, and as a teacher I used to tell students that the trees outside our windows were more worthy to live than we, because they only produced good things and nothing bad.
@@Hiforest It seems pessimistic, but you have hit the nail on the head! The sooner we can realize that we are not superior to, and separate from, all the other plants and animals, the better chance we have of saving some portion of the planet's ability to continue to support us.
@@Hiforest I feel so sad knowing how imprisoned we are by an infrastructure put in place after WWII and just puffed up ever since by big business: ever larger houses, on ever larger plots, ever more distant from downtown, and ever larger cars (and here in central USA, even more monstrous pickup trucks), and recently pared-back bus service. We are totally at the beck and call of oil, gas (and coal) and auto industries here.
I'm going to quote you, next time I'm answering a morality question on Quora. "If morality came from God, then it would never change." Excellent and straight to the point. Thank you, Emma.
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Don't get the book. Logiced bought it and it's 1:1 copies of other articles. He had no editor.
Thank you lovely Emma ❤️.
@@QuintarFarenor Oh the "CRMinistries steals all of his material from other sources" rabbithole goes way farther down than just his book, sadly. This video was entirely stolen from another source, verbatim. Nothing in this video that Emma is responding to is his own work.
Emma, I seriously LOVE your voice/accent...
That's it... I do like your videos... but love your voice... LOL
Have a great day....
Did you notice his "great pyramid of being" (at 10:25) puts women (along with whales) at a step below males. Bigly sad.
I prophesied that this dude’s "points" would all suck, and my prophecy has been fulfilled. That may mean my comment is the literal word of god.
I'm going to guess that around half of the viewers of this video are atheist. View count, at time of me typing this, is about half a million. That means about 250,000 atheists watched it, so I'm taking the standpoint that 250,000 viewers made a very similar prophecy...
Either the abrahamic god makes atheists speak its words, OR there were a quarter of a million thinkers who extrapolated based on their own experience of believers who make that kind of video. I've got zero evidence for this argument, of course, but I'm going with my zero evidence argument. Just like the guy Emma responded to...
Yup 😂😂
All hail
Jesse is Lord
@@Lex-xz9bm We are the Coleans, followers of Cole Jesse.
Omg jesseus
I feel like Emma did miss an opportunity here with the “animals don’t marry and therefore we are superior” bit. If you strip away the ceremony, what is marriage but bonding for life? Animals do that ALL THE TIME. There are many species that mate for life, and if divorce rates and incidence of extramarital affairs are any indication, they are FAR BETTER at it than we are.
Not only that but many also do have some kind of ritual like a special dance or sound they make after bonding. This isn‘t that different. The only one that came to mind is the litte mating dance a freshly bonded pair of virgin termites queen and kings do…and they too bond for life :D
Yes!! Thank you! Can we talk about animal courting and how A TON of animals mate for life?! Pretty sure animals had that down far before humans even came along.
Exactly, if humans are superior because of marriage then why the heck do some animal species have stronger relationships than humans?
Love it lol
@@Oviause0713 It isn't superior at all. Sleeping around and spreading your genes is superior. Fighting and beating others is the superior way.
Humans and every other animals have been surviving for millions of years that way.
Like the lady (Emma) in the video said, marriage is just a business arrangement. Humans come together and agree to respect each other and each others properties.
Women were treated as property in the Bible. That is the world that Jesus grew up in. He never fought for women's rights.
It is only in the 19 th century that european women decided to change the status quo.
So fun facts on the subject of this video. He is impressively arrogant yet avoids confrontation at all costs. If you say anything negative to him he will block you instantly and will block you on all media then tell everyone he dominated you in an argument despite never talking to you. He also wrote a book that has over 10 spelling errors on the cover alone.
What is this book called.
He literally blocked Logicked after he responded to this clown's invitation to send his book, for free.
@@Mike_Jones281 'God Is".
I've been commenting on his TH-cam channel for about a week. Haven't been blocked yet. But also haven't been responded to.
@@HuxtableK hey…..responding to you
10:26 The man being above the woman in the supposed "hierarchy" is the icing on the cake 👌
I saw that too. Emma missed a trick by not pointing this out. Hilarious absurdity nevertheless.
To be fair, I believe he did say that "man" is the highest being -- so at least he's consistent in his absurdity. This also speaks to Emma's excellent point that if you can't have morals without god, then how could morals change over time? (Would imply that god made a boo-boo the first time.) Unfortunately, extreme religious zealots and bible literalists like this have *not* changed their moral code: they still live in the dark ages with beliefs like homosexuality is a sin, women are inferior to men, all other species are inferior to humans, etc. etc. This is another example of a circular argument: you can't have morality without god, and your counterpoint that it doesn't make sense for a god-given morality to change is fallacious, because morality has not changed, because the only correct moral code is what is written in the bible, which has to be true because it was written by god...
Truly disgusting. From a male, I think that was a true showing of how limited that individual's thinking is.
My thinking is that there should be either 2 symbols (Female and Male) at the top of that pyramid, or maybe even better, a non specific representation of a human that doesn't imply any kind of gender. (yeah, I know - good luck working out what that symbol might look like) ...
Man r head of the household. Christian believe in family & strong value while atheist believe in selfish & worship man for god since atheist substitute man 2 be take place if god
@@LordOfThePancakes What a load of incoherent rubbish
I was taken aback by the bit where he talks about how humans are "higher" beings than other animals and shows a hierarchy.
I think Emma only noticed the obvious human at the top of the pyramid, but not the fact that it was a man on top, while a woman was on the next rung down (same level as a whale)...
I know creationists usually hold sexist views, but they usually aren't this explicit about it.
My wife missed that initially, but now she's doing her best Dory impression.
Ha, I saw that too, was surprised that Emma didn't notice.
Was scrolling through just to see if anyone else commented on this as well. Amazing graphic to use...
Also scrolling through to see if anyone else had noticed this. I had to pause the video to make sure I was really seeing it. I was also very surprised that Emma didn't mention it. I think it might be a good subject for a follow-up. Come on Emma, tear into him for this. I think we'd all love to see it. "Man" is at the top of the list because of his superior brain. Put on your big boy pants, gird your loins ChristRighteous and get ready to defend yourself.
That was a mind-blowing graphic. Scrolled down to see if others noticed.
I noticed that too! It's the kind of thing that is simultaneously shocking and not surprising in the slightest. Yikes.
If I wasn’t an atheist already, this guy just convinced me that I would become one based on his ignorance.
ChristRighteous is next-level stupid. Check out Logicked's review of CR's book if you want some more cringe. The ineptitude is staggering.
Yeah true, im not Christian per say but i do believe in the Bibles God. I can honestly say ive seen some of his vids where he mocks atheists and im like thats not very god like or christian like and its people like this that make good christians look bad and make them hate christians, great job bro ur doing the devils work lol.
@@jethrodark2372 of course you believe in the devil. Why not. You believe in an invisible magician man in the sky who sometimes grants wishes and periodically writes books. Have at it.
@@seantiz ??? I was aggreeing with u tho why so hostile? The last part was not about u but the guy in the video geez, no wonder atheist and Christians fight they hate each other cause they both want the other to believe what they do. Why cant people leave others alone let people believe what they want.
Because your writing was unclear and all over the place.
All of this guy's "proofs" are just the old "If God isn't real, then how do cats get their pretty stripes?". Magnificent.
And we all know these stripes come from having the litter parents looking at striped fences. Duh
@@gornser That's true, but where did the fences come from? God.
@@Iwatchedyouchains BUT where bid the striped fences that god was looking at before he gave birth to himself come from ??? check mate
@@HNH421 You're right, I guess now I don't have a moral compass since I'm a sociopath. Frowny face!
We all truly know that ALL the gods are just Ancient Aliens anyway. 😅
The fact that so many creationists say evolution is "just a theory" shows they never actually read or listen to anything outside their echo chamber of other creationists, all of whom know next to nothing about the very science they try to debunk.
They also don’t appreciate that “theory” in this context means tantamount to fact, and not the layman’s meaning of “a hunch”.
@@ShintogaDeathAngel That's what I was referring to.
When I was a Christian I lived in fear. "Will I get to Heaven or no? Is God happy with me?" Now, as an atheist, I feel at peace with a universe of which I am a part. This is opposite of what he says.
yea, people who say “only religion leads to happiness” probably have Stockholm syndrome
Or they don’t allow themselves to be happy because it goes against what they were taught
Agreed, Me too.
Me too. I totally agree.
Me too. And I am sure that the world would be a much nicer place to live without religions, if people understood that we are the only ones who can help each other.
Ironic that the verse says ' I once was blind but now I see'......it is really the other way round. People are blind when they are christians. They are like a spiritual salesman. Trained to spew out the right scripture to promote their poison.
My grandma was a devout Christian and she raised me in a Christian way… thoroughly Christian! BUT when I questioned the bible during my studies, she told me that if I had doubts about the bible I must do my research. Go to the source, study the original text, read it in the original language, then learn who translated it. She also hugely encouraged learning the history of the bible, the history of how it was put together as a book, the books that were chosen for inclusion and those that were left out.
She pushed me to always be learning, encouraging me to figure out, question, research, and NOT take the first opinion as truth without reference.
So just because she had true faith she always understood that others might have question. She was always beside me supporting and guiding me. I’m not a devout Christian as I did carry out my own research…. But I still thank her for every moment she was in my life 🥰
that was a truly lovely to read. Thank you for sharing.
Devotion in my family bordered on lunacy....and so no similar tales. Sounds like you were blessed. If not by a fantastical Abrahamic god, then by a compassionate and loving elder.
I am so happy to know that there's someone who also experienced that.
My grandma is similar in this, she's a Buddhist but she never expected me to blindly believe what she said. It's always better to ask, think, find and answer then use ways to test it.
She often told me some quotes from Buddhist texts and asked me if I think it's true or false, then ask Why it's true or false, How and How can it become opposite, then finally ask what's I have learned from all the analyzing.
the only problem is that there isn't any original text that anyone has found for the bible! there is only translations of translations! and the original gospals would have been based on verbal stories that were at least 60 years old before the first gospel was written!! anyone want to play the telephone game???
@@adamcampbell5977 there isn't original text?? Where on earth do you get your knowledge of that from?
Maybe you should have let her show you, you did not research properly, because you could not easily say that, if I asked you what you researched you would start googling stuff
He also uses what's called the puddle analogy, which essentially states that if a puddle woke up it would think "wow! This hole fits me perfectly! It must have been made for me!" While in reality the hole was there and water just happened to fall in. Looking at his argument he states, in essence, that if anything on earth was changed then we wouldn't exist, therefore it must have been masterfully designed with us in mind, while in reality we got lucky and were able to evolve on this giant hunk of rocks.
Wuh... the puddle argument is an argument against the Earth being made for humans...
@@colbyboucher6391 yes. That’s what they said.
"while in reality we got lucky"
Not even that. The vast majority of Earth is uninhabitable to humans. The oceans, the deserts, the polar regions etc are all pretty much not suitable for human life with only a few exceptions here and there. If the world was actually designed for humans, then why isn't it?
@@fredkay6743I'm sure it's because God wanted to challenge us, or test our beliefs, or figure it out ourselves e.t.c.
@@matwatson7947I have weird feeling that you’re actually serious..??
Using the bible to prove God exists, is like using a comic book to prove The Hulk exists! 😂😂
completely agree, however if you can prove the validity and certainty of the comic you can show the many reasons for the existence of the hulk
Very good or using one of Donald Trumps tweets to prove he doesn’t lie..
There's more proof that the Hulk exists - I've seen him in movies too! 🤣
Boom 💥
There is actually more proof something 'like' the Hulk could exist ..once we have the knowledge to change the DNA to make one ..no try that for god
my favourite moment: "human brain big, therefore god" sums up a lot of theists... loved that moment!
@@sasukeoutlaw9047 I don't give a fuck. I will be dead then. There is no after life. I will be worm food then.
@@sasukeoutlaw9047 so he punishes them for not believing in him when he never even shows a sign of him on earth? yea thanks I'd rather burn than praise this moron.
"banan go in han, therefore god"
The rise of atheists churches is odd as well. Atheists seem obsessed with the christian faith. Especially since they claim to not believe in any deity.
@@calliope4293 what atheist churches? what the hell are you talking about?
14:25 He refutes himself. He points out how marriage happens across practically all human populations, whether they've been exposed to the Christian God or not. This is evidence that the social nature of humanity is constant, regardless of religion.
So when exactly did God invent marriage? Was that after several dozens of generations of the exact same couple's offspring have populated all of earth, inbred into madness?
Nonono, don't you see, they're only doing that because God made it so. And then the Tower of Babel happened and people forgot about God and started worshiping false gods, but they kept marriage because God.
At least that's what I'd assume his counter-argument to look like.
Although, even his argument regarding animals stands on very shaky ground. There's animals that live in monogamous relationships for their entire lives, even after one partner dies. We can't speak their languages or read their thoughts, so how do we know they aren't married in the biblical sense? Just because they don't hold grand ceremonies like we do?
@@rolfs2165 it goes even further than that, there are a lot of animals, particularly birds, who have very elaborate matting rituals performed once with one partner. I don’t know about you but that sounds an awful lot like a marriage ceremony to me.
Not to mention that there are numerous human cultures that don't have monogamous marriage at all. It's far from universal.
@@eraz0rhead Like The Mosuo, they have "walking marriage" a way to say "the man go to her place to fuck in the night and then fuck off"
I was raised in an fundamental, evangelical, cult-like church, and I really like hearing someone just rip apart these "proofs" with actual logic. Just found your channel, and I'm so excited to keep watching!
Then you’ll enjoy Logicked’s series on Almando. He tore Almando to shreds so that others don’t have to Lol 😂
Adults don’t need imaginary friends. Just sayin’! Well done for waking up... so many victims don’t.
Are there any non cult like churches??? Just asking
@@ensleyboost6247 Yes!
@@ensleyboost6247id say the Unitarian Universalists are alright, or those who believe in liberation theology.
Emma, your patience and kindness when reviewing such content is extraordinary.. holy crap.. His lack of critical framing and ignorance towards biology, evolution, philosophy, psychology, and all other observable sciences makes me want to throw my phone against the wall.. power to you!!!
Save your phone - he's not worth it.
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The way he denies any fallacies or contradictions in the Bible also immediately raises red flags of racism and homophobia for me.
There aren't contradictions in the bible. Nor is Christianity homophobic. The entire ideas are based on the new testament. You're a child who can't analyze shit.
sounds like a Maga
T-T
I suffered more sadness and disappointment having faith than I did when I finally stop having faith and to be honest I kind of felt like I was brainwashed but ever since I stopped having faith I felt like a lot of weight has been lifted off my shoulders and I can finally be the person that I want to be instead of being stuck between two worlds
You had more problem having faith because Satan is real so you had problems when you were against him and you didnt when you werent.
@@thetruebodyofchristrestored goodbye
@@thetruebodyofchristrestored that makes no sense, that's implying that @Agent Venom just decided to take Satan's side over God. I swear you guys don't no the difference between thought or consciousness over a supernatural being placing those thoughts in you. It's like you guys have no thoughts of your own without something bigger than you influencing you.
@@yheonmercado8506 1. Since you are lost you are starting this conversation with an ego like you know what you are saying when you should not. Ask a question and learn.
2. If you are not walking with God you are automatically with Satan.
@@thetruebodyofchristrestored * Since you are lost you are starting this conversation with an ego like you know what you are saying when you should not.*
So I shouldn't know what I'm talking about? Are you trying so hard to sound like you know what *you* are talking about? You could have said "Since you are lost you are starting this conversation with an ego like you know what you are saying *when you don't*. Poor attempt to make yourselves sound more sophisticated.
*If you are not walking with God you are automatically with Satan.*
I walk alone or with friends or family, but I don't walk with imaginary forces that your flock has created. Don't place a label on me as if you know me.
I also don't need to ask questions when I can just look into your book and reaffirm as to why your God is no different than you and I...because he was created from us.
ooooh! As someone who was born and raised in a Muslim country under an ideological-autoritarian regime, I can tell you that Muslims dig up ALL manners of prophecies and "miracles" out of Quran with the same conviction as this guy has towards the Bible.
Keep up the good work Emma 🖖
Hope you are staying safe :)
Yup. Plus Judaism has its own set of wildly different interpretations of all the same prophecies Christianity pulled from, and they’re vaguely more believable to me.
So glad you were able to see through the indoctrination & brainwashing. I was raised religious to, but I figured out God was fake at the age of 9 buy how the Bible resembled a wizards & warlocks comic book lol.
It is strange that all monotheist religions tend to confuse claim and evidence. Other religions are more intelligent, as they present their holy scriptures as metaphores or guidelines or visions. That way nobody can debunk oppressive rules on that basis.
“No other book has foretold the future”
Didn’t Ray Bradbury literally predict the Dishwasher?
Phrophecy is a sin. It say so in the bible right before revelation prophesizes armegeddon.. It really is that bad.
1984
Leo DaVinci predicted and designed a helicopter.
The Fifth Element predicted the tablet PC...
Several years ago a couple of Jehovah's Witnesses knocked at my door and told me they had absolute proof that God existed. My interest was piqued, and I actually invited them in, willing to hear this so called evidence. They then proceeded to simply hold up the Bible and told me that God definitely exists because it says so in the Bible! What??!!
I had some missionary show up at my door a few years ago. It was a hot day in Australia and my then girlfriend had an idea how to make sure they didn't come back.
We answered the door naked and asked them inside to discuss naturist life styles lmfao.
They couldn't leave fast enough.
When I was in my older teens/young adulthood I called myself a christian and was living with someone who did the same. He invited some mormons in for a fun debate and I joined for a couple of sessions and what really got me was just how different a person Jesus is in the Book of Mormon as opposed to the Bible. Just... the character was totally off. I'm not proud about how many years later it took for me to realize "Oh, that's how Jewish people feel about the God of the Christian Bible"
Anytime I see an argument that god is real and they use the bible as evidence, I throw up my meme of a napkin with the following written on it, "the napkin religion is the one true religion because it says so right here on this napkin"
@@TaylorjAdamsthe good described in the old testament seems to be a different entity depending on which book you read...
@@radschele1815 that's true too. There were two separate Gods in the original old testament that got combined together, then the God of the New Testament is significantly different from either of them and both the God and the Jesus of the book of mormon is different from the New Testament on top of that
speaking as a european, I have never met a creationist in my life and the fact that in the US it's not only viewed as a valid 'theory' but actually taught in school in place of evolution... It's simply mindboggling, yikes.
I guess you didn't travel trough Europe. Go to Vatican for example when are the Christian holidays, or go to the eastern Europe and you will see plenty of those. Or go to a church or a monastery in your own town/country.
Here in Italy even catholics school don't teach creationism, and if you ask to roman catholic priest or vatican officer they will agree that bibles only interpretation. Vatican officially agree on big bang and evolutionism. In Italy almost all who professes catholic is roman catholic. In united state i belive there are more diy christ religions...
The US doesn't teach creation in schools. Maybe private religious schools but not public. The First Amendment of our Constitution doesn't allow it (the separation of church and state).
@@ernestosuarez4499 well when your in a majority christian country that amendment is treated like a suggestion and there are real public schools in the south bible belt small towns that do teach creationism
@@MrLupoiul Creationism is not taught in any school in the European Union. The Vatican researches and agrees with the Theory of Evolution. When I spoke at length with the pastor in my local church, he told me that the church is more concerned with tradition than with science. Which sums it all up really.
I know I'm being overly pedantic here, but I still loved it when he said "we are far more intelligent than anything that god has ever created". Taken literally, that statement implies that we were not created by god.
Scientists actually believe dolphins actually use a higher % of their brain than us humans. Which... would make sense, as life originated from the ocean.
@@michaellind9650 Sorry, but this notion that we don't use all of our brain is nonsense.
//EDIT: I converted "none sense" to nonsense.
@@boriskogan7903 Thank you. Yes, I was wondering.
One time at work, we had a discussion about whether it is You're Welcomed or You're Welcome.
It turns out I was saying it wrong for years and it is You're Welcome.
@@michaellind9650 We use 100% of our brains, some portions of our brains are more or less active depending on what we are doing of course but we are definitely using all of it. If any portion of our brain is damaged it has serious and lasting effects, those effects depending on what part is damaged, memory, motor function, sensory processing, facial recognition, higher thought processes, etc.
And if you need more evidence than that just look at the energy expenditure of our brains, roughly 10% of the calories that we burn in a day are consumed by our brains, disregarding intense exercise which would skew the percentage. Now tell me why in the hell would we have a brain that is 10X the size that it needs to be consuming massive amounts of energy for literally no reason.
One downside of a larger brain is slower reaction times because of the signal delay between parts of the brain, and the biggest downside is the fact that birthing a human is unbelievably difficult compared to most other mammals, and babies come out far less well developed to have even a chance of fitting out. That's why human hips are so wide, and babies are born small and weak and helpless, they would kill every single mother otherwise.
If our heads could be smaller by having a brain one-tenth the size we could have babies being born at the toddler stage. Like how a horse is born and can run around literally hours later.
@@boriskogan7903 grow up
Dude bro is waiting for god to replace the battery in his smoke alarm.
How many gods does it take to change a smoke alarm battery?
I noticed that immediately in his introduction and that pretty much formed my entire opinion 😬
This guy reminds me so much of myself in my late teens and early twenties, just parroting Evangelical talking points with no proof other than scripture itself. Don't worry, I got better.
I was raised in a deeply religious house. But I was also raised by at least moderately intelligent parents. They didn’t want me parroting ideas, but to develop my own to increase my faith. There was a time during the 80’s and 90’s when there was a big push from the church for their youth to do this. It backfired majorly. In their pursuit of knowledge a large portion of the youth researched their way straight out of their faith. Now the church is drawing back on that approach and indoctrinating the young to never question the taught faith, miseducating them on science, and turning them loose to spew their rhetoric in an attempt to strengthen their stance. This is also beginning to backfire, but instead of going back to the roots of faith in he church is now openly attacking anything that questions their smug superiority. They are calling anything that questions their misinformation as an attack on their faith, while actively trying to destroy anything that can possibly break their strangle-hold on their young. Teaching someone that it is okay to love as you wish, despite being one of the core teachings of the very person they claim to follow, is now a sin equivalent of murder. Meanwhile truly heinous acts are dismissed or ignored, all in support of “keeping the faith.”
Big same.
SAME 🙋♀️
I truly wish time travel was a thing so I could go back and correct all the misguidance and harm I caused in the name of my faith. 🤦♀️
Go watch the channel by Logicked, he has been obliterating this dude
@@akakscase I was helped on my way back in 66-67 by my Sunday school teacher who, while very devout herself, urged us to question it. She was so sure of her faith that she assumed that we would follow her path. Like you say, it backfired majorly!
I love how when they hit a brick wall they default into preacher mode. Their only tactic is to act as if they are right in their position rather than argue in good faith and accept when their premises fail.
I love how eloquently you manage to express the level of frustration I have always had with people like this
There are easily over 2000 contradictions and what is worse, bad dogma running throughout. There are no predictions worth a grain of salt and Jesus knew nothing of Germ Theory, or that Slavery was wrong, or that Earth was the Third stone from the Son, as Jimi Hendrix. Evolution explains like a million times better. Supernovas exploding created the planets including Earth. Atheists do acknowledged that there is a Creator or Prime Move or First Cause but there is not proof that god is moral or understanding or created man; he just created the Big Bang.
Loved your responses to all his "evidence ", sure wish that more people could be saved from the insanity called religion. Oh, and you definitely nailed the adorable bunny look!
I knew a guy who told me, "you have to accept certain fallacies in the Bible to accept it as the inerrant word of God." I was so stunned and had no idea how to respond to that. He also couldn't understand that people who don't have a higher power have morals and ethics, and went on to say, well if I don't have God, I will commit awful atrocities, because there are no morals...
"You have to accept errors in the inerrant word of God" they say unironically, LOL!
@@fubartotale3389 Yeah, it made me sick to my stomach how somebody can be so proud of such actual nonsense.
I had a co-worker tell me that “i was lost” because i didn’t believe in god. Believe me, he was the lost one.
Only the immoral commit immoral atrocities.
But serving in God's holy name makes anything legal, no?
Yes ... welcome to the Inquisition then, take a number and await your stake ...
Our morality is the ability to determine truth from lies. religion has taught me that all religion is lies... there is no true worship that pleases god. The moral decision is that religion is wrong, god has no stake in our world. Our morals are the result of random selection and we instinctly know right from wrong because of our Vagus nervous system..ie, use your gut.
Me trying to think of what to say constructively rather than ranting, then realising I don’t need to as Emma does a smashing job. I love your videos. My husband and son always listen in as they love your content too 🐥
The Telltale Atheist explained
in one of his newer videos something that really touched me:
That more Atheists need to Run for Office.
Not only did he not just state it but make great Arguments,
but he even provided Ways to learn how to run for Office.
This guy responded to Logicked by not addressing any of his points and instead opting for personal attacks on his kids/parenting and appeals to emotion.
So..... yeah that's the caliber of person we're in for here. Lol
I love that he tried to give a parent parenting-advice when he doesn't even have a kid yet.
And unless i've stumbled on the wrong video, i think he just went into hiding: "This video has been removed by the uploader" 🙄
He's parroting an article written 9 years ago by a guy named Joshua Infantado.
He's not even bothering to change the wording, nor give the author credit.
Lazy and dishonest apologist.
@@shmeblee2317 thank you! I was trying to think of Infantado's name!
@@shmeblee2317 You should see Logicked take down "his" "book". Major editing problems and major plagiarism problems. So, I'm not really surprised by him just parroting someone else here.
It's quite refreshing to hear you getting forceful and adamant in your rebuttal. I've just had to get a new phone and I'm rediscovering the channels I love. This is one of them and hearing you just lambast silly arguments is excellent
"Do you ever see animals marrying themselves?"
Yes. They are called humans.
A lot also form exclusive life partnerships. :)
There are animals that mate for life - and I would also argue that humans participating in monogamous & exclusive relationships for life is more rare, than we as a society, like to think. Grey Wolves, Eurasian Beavers, Bald Eagles, Sandhill Cranes, Macaroni Penguins and Barn Owls... just to name a few.
@@bigskypioneer1898
Humans don't really have the typical hallmarks of a lifetime monogamous species. It is mind-boggling that we have let religions try to trick us and force us into thinking we are and acting like we are.
This
you can be an animal if you want
"The word of God is perfect and un-mistakable!" "Skeptics are just misinterpreting the word of God!"
... How can it be open to misinterpretation if it's perfect and unmistakable? That itself is yet another contradiction... Just seconds after you claim there are no contradictions!
How is he able to say this without realizing? It's so stupid it's actually making me angry...
This has always been a strong sticking point of mine. If the word of God is supposed to be absolute and universal.... why would a God who wanted that choose literature to spread said word. Literature by its very nature will be interrupted in different ways by different readers.
@@jezebeltryst5444 It's frustrating for someone who's looked into the history and origins of the cult of YHWH (I mean that in the same way I'd speak of the cult or Baal, or Isis.) The whole 'omnipotent, omnicient, one true god' thing came MUCH later after a few ancient Judaic kings allied with the cult of YHWH realized it'd be easier to control their populaces if they only had to placate one priesthood.
@@idigamstudios7463 God exists.
@@jezebeltryst5444 Debate? God exists!
@@ShallowCreation911 Which one you referring to?
Strangely I am a perfectly happy atheist, infact if I had been forced or forced myself into some biblical literalism I'd be deeply unhappy as I am trans. I'd be stuck living a life that I didn't want to live, or forcibly cured.
Thanks again for providing a well ballanced counterpoint to them.
Mel xx
You cannot be “cured” of something that isn’t wrong to begin with. I know you don’t have a better word for it, but maybe next time put it in parentheses or something because we all know it is hogwash, even if others believe it. Don’t degrade yourself or others by even hinting that there is something to cure. You are you, and as long as you are living a happy life without harming others, the short sighted self righteous bigots can go bugger themselves.
Same here baby but I think you forgot the quotation marks around the word cured. Love you though ❤️ Live well!
I know a trans kid that has some problems now with society not accepting him. It feels good to know that he can be happy too, thanks a lot for these few words.
I'm happy for you being able to be yourself now :)
I'm the owner of a small Software/Hardware consulting firm and one of my employees started their transition around the time Covid-19 first showed up. Purely from a business standpoint one of the things that I have noticed is that prior to her starting her transition she was an average employee; now she is one of my best employees based upon quality and quantity of her work. In March of this year I have promoted her to a senior position and honestly prior to her transition I didn't think she would have been capable of being moved into a senior position. It is almost as if living her life as she meant to live it has given her a new found energy and joy in other aspects of her life. It is my understanding that later this year or early next year she will being having her gender confirmation surgery.
Emma your such a wonderful person! Love how you strike out all the godly arguments of others.
Keep up the good work.
Regards Eltjo
From one of the happiest athiest countries the Netherlands
“Nothing else can fulfill the future”. Bruh, the Simpsons have done it multiple times
Is this a joke or your serious?
Alhamdulillah iam a Muslim.
@@صلاحالدين-ك1خ It's a joke, but he's also serious. Look up the different things the Simpsons has predicted.
And more precisely…
So what your saying is Homer is the real "God" 🤔 😏
This guy will probably never read any book with science in it because it will conflict with his "book". He's the worst type of Christian that is so indoctrinated, I doubt he would consider anyone else's opinion.
This guy has obviously lived a very sheltered life, since he's putting this "Baby's first apologetics" stuff out with such confidence.
Edit: I've now looked into this guy a lot more and he gives off a number of warning signs. He displays strong traits from the Dark Triad of personality traits, being manipulative, narcissistic and displays pleasure when pushing others down. He will absolutely abuse his child when it's born.
Demarkil, He needs to understand you can't steal other people's ideas as your own. I offered to proof his next one lol. He is going to need a lawyer unless about 20 authors decide not to press charges.
Hey Hey Hey we don't talk about Elf Dawkins this way... He is a very serious thinker... And he is very good with the think.
And his book does not write existence wrong twice in different ways on the back side..
I suspect he's lived a rather harsh life. He sounds like a "crisis convert", someone that was converted during a religion-based 12-step program or youth crisis outreach. Some of his other videos hint that he got into some stuff that probably caught the attention of law enforcement and the justice system.
@@heinshaaine8153 Isnt it Elph Dawkings now? I thought Sir Sic had updated it.
@@isaoblack987 Fuck way too less whiskey... and i thought it was Logicked...
Whenever this guy talks about his 'proofs' for the existence of god, I keep thinking back to that one scene from The Princess Bride.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-Inigo Montoya.
Many atheists insist on erecting elaborate arguments and systems of thought around some false truth they're attempting to prove.
If there is no God, and all faith is falsehood, and eternity is random then what's the purpose of you obsessing over what Christians believe?
@@calliope4293 Do I care when someone believes in leprechauns? Not particularly. Do I care when the leprechaun that they believe in has been telling that person to burn down a person's home?
I care when it influences another to do harm.
When I around 10-12, my parents made me go to 'confirmation classes'.
I always thought them ridiculous but was told by my mother that "you'll thank me later".
Sixty years on, I'm still waiting to be enlightened, still think confirmation classes are ridiculous (as is the intent behind them), and have yet to be thankful to my mother for making me go.
I'm an engineer/scientist. I believe things that I have proof of, reserve judgement on things that are unproven either way but I feel could be possible, and disbelieve anything else. God is firmly in the 'anything else' camp - ridiculous idea based on the ignorance of ancient societies.
He lost me at Ev. no 2, I just cannot describe how he is wrong about biology on so many levels. I also love the 10:26 graphic with man being positioned above a woman and a whale:)
Wow, it's kinda funny how religious people think they superior over women's.
Not just Christians, every other religion believes the same ideology.
I’m desperate to find out the metric that places whales and women on the same level below ‘man’ and yet above the other animals shown.
@@PeterHyder
Religion.
And the whale wanted to be a friend based on a book I read.
@@PeterHyder Women don’t have much value in judaism and religions derived from judaism.
These are misogynistic religions.
For example:
1 Corinthians 11:7 KING JAMES VERSION
For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. {11:8} For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. {11:9} Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. {11:10} For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. {11:11} Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord. {11:12} For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of god. {11:13} Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered? {11:14} Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? {11:15} But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering. {11:16} But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.
^^^^^These lines claim that (a) woman is (are) a product of (a) man.
It is clearly referring to the Garden of Eden story. This is the beginning steps that the jewish god takes. It is a critical moment since this step determines the view that the followers of his religion take with respect to women.
Of course, this religion is man made and when I say man made, I am referring to males. They have designed their religion in their own image.
The followers of the jewish religion from the time period when 1 Corinthians was written, were certainly literalists. In other words, they literally believed that there was a Garden of Eden and all the descriptions of the book of Genesis.
The book of Genesis contains clues for them. The creation of man first and the woman being an afterthought gives them clues as to the attitude of the jewish god towards woman. This becomes an excuse for the authors of 1 Corinthians and the rest to devalue women.
I don’t know what that silly line about “power on her head because of the angels” is suppose to be. {11:10}
Anyway, the author recognizes that for a man to reproduce, he needs women. {11:11}
{11:12} is about the guy confessing that men need women and vice-versa. Again, probably he is thinking about reproduction.
These guys have a big issue with hair. Little trivial things such as the hair on your head has somehow become a big issue in ancient jewish culture apparently.
They don’t like it if a woman prays without her hair being covered. They also claim that the hair of a woman covers her head so I don’t know, maybe the author is suggesting it is fine for a woman to pray without a cloth covering her head.
They believe that it is shameful for a man to have long hair. This would be the equivalent of a man wearing a dress, a skirt or a bra in modern society. Most of us would find him weird.
Anyone who uses "faith" in their argument is inherently acknowledging that their argument is too weak to stand.
I think people like this genuinely don't understand the distinction between faith and critical thinking / empirical argument.
It's the "i guarantee my compilation of copyrighted materials will convert everyone" guy.
What do you mean he read Steven Hawkings's book The Bland Witchmaker.
Hehe, indeed. His book is dire, this guy is a joke.
He is some of the best comedy on the internet.
@@justsomebloke6784 I can only imagine how many atheists have left him comments on his videos. I say imagine, as he doesn't allow them to post publicly. He only wants comments that 'love' what he says.
@@briannewton3535 I think he wants to usurp Matty-Boy in Hovind's affections. He stands a good chance I would say.
Hi Emma, first time here, I find it " miraculous" you have the patience, to talk to these people. I can't, unless they're family members, it's ongoing, I was Christian, for 40+ years, what a waste of time, it's also good to hear an English voice. I enjoyed your reasoning and taking the piss out of this clown.😂😂
Every time I hear this guy say "proof of god", I feel like Inigo Montoya when he says to Vincini "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
i liked how he characterized skeptics as "on their toes," when most of us are kind of bored out of our minds at the same 3 arguments over and over and dont even raise an eyebrow at any of the nonesense hes talking about. its his crowd scrambling and scrounging for some way to interpret things and twist them to somehow support their beliefs they so desperately want to cling to.
@Fk Yu Right?? I'm with you both on this point. It's sad how woefully incapable apologists are of forming new arguments to support their beliefs.
...almost like there's no rational basis for them.
@Fk Yu I’ve a funny feeling we may get the 1st/2nd coming of Christ before we get a improved argument.
Honestly it's why you're better off listening to accredited biblical historians, theologians, and archeologists. People who spend their lives exploring the history, and philosophical evolution. These are people who have made it a vocation to consider the angles of belief and worship and tend to be much more introspective and interesting to talk to.
These guys really aren't helped by the fact that I can't tell if half of them are serious or just grifting.
@@idigamstudios7463 indeed. This is what I think of folk like this guy and the Matt Powell types. I genuinely think those like the Hovinds are too deep down the rabbit hole to know any better, but the Powell types use arguments that are so detached from even the basics of science, that I’m almost certain they know it’s nonsense. It’s all just about getting views on TH-cam and selling garbage to those silly enough to lap it up.
"There are no other books in the history of man that contain future events and records being fulfilled."
This guy has clearly never heard of Nostradamus.
Also, his arguments basically boil down to: "If Christians say that the sky is red, then skeptics have to accept that the sky is red."
Please don't use the word Christian in that context. Yeshua said, "many shall come in my name but I do not know them." A real Christian would never force their belief onto another. A real Christian would share what they know, how and why they know it like that and leave it at that. A real Christian doesn't use force nor manipulates. A real Christian supports and lives by Free Will. It's Your choice to make up your own mind. A real Christian is just a messenger not an indoctrinator. What makes a Christian a Christian? Their belief? Maybe, but not necessarily. What makes a Christian an actual Christian is their daily walk and relationship with Yahweh - Yeshua. Each to their own!
@@skilz8098 While I'm sure it's comforting for you to think that way, the history of Christianity's spread is through force, fear, and coercion. The Romans forced conversion at the point of a sword; inquisitors enforced obedience with torture and the threat of execution. The entire premise of Christian faith is "Do what we tell you or suffer eternal damnation." As a block, Christianity is responsible for more death and destruction than every other religion combined.
Blue? How dare you? Go to hell! Go directly to hell! Do not pass Go, do not collect $200!
@@skilz8098 *"A real Christian would never force their belief onto another."*
A) Sadly, the _Not A True Scotsman Fallacy_ is is neither new nor quaint.
B1) Take your wannabe internal civil war about which Christian believes in the right way to Christians. It's their task to figure it out.
B2) Or figure out a way to reliably and without bias figure out which Christian is correct and which isn't.
C) While you're at it, have fun proving Free Will even exists.
D) As well as fixing your contradictions.
*"What makes a Christian an actual Christian is their daily walk and relationship with Yahweh - Yeshua. Each to their own!"*
So a "real Christian" who has their "daily walk and relationship" with God can use force and manipulate, or does "to each their own" not extend past "what you think is right"? ;)
@@cy-one Let's say you are traveling one day randomonly just for the country drive. You have no direct destination in mind. You come to a T junction in the road. You can decide to go left or you can decide to go right. Nothing is stopping you or forcing you to go either direction. That's Free Will.
You can choose to go to work or to stay home. You can choose to do this or that. There is no contradiction.
I'll share what I understand and believe and how and why I understand it. It's up to the other person to take it or leave it. I don't force my beliefs on to them. I simply plant a seed and will walk away.
And your counterexamples is why we are to remain vigilant seeking out his wisdom in order to have discernment.
I had the choice to either completely ignore your reply or to respond to it. I simply chose to respond.
“If I pronounced those correctly” - the words of a true subject matter expert.
This guy's plagiarism in his book infuriated Logicked so much that he split the review of that book into two parts, and he even skipped over some of it!
never seen Logicked as agitated as at the end of part 2. )))) Almando broke some kind of anti-record...
Logicked disd a review. And was so wroth that he split the review assunder.
@@mrk4022 If you count the two-part episode with Rags where they discussed the dubious nature of the book's reviews, there's almost three hours of content just relating to that book. I don't know how Logicked did it without losing his shit completely. There should have been a plagiarism counter, as well as perhaps a counter for every time it was evident that Almando should have used some of that "ministry" money for an editor.
@@bunwalla285 right you are.
I got as far as no.1. Anybody who starts their "proofs" with fulfilled prophecy does you the favour of letting you know that they are not to be taken seriously.
Why? The future is unknowable to all but the creator of all things as he is the one who destines all things. Logically prophecy is greatest of all proofs. Explain yourself.
@@trumenfreight6055 Indeed it would be if it could be proven to be accurate at all times which it certainly isn't. Can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the prophecies were made before the event which not all can be and don't have people actively working to make prophecies come true which there certainly were. I've seen a Hebrew bible expert rip apart the supposed prophecies of Jesus like a dog with a roast chicken. It takes some serious mental gymnastics and select reading (really cherry picking) to get to Jesus from the OT prophecies that were about completely different people hundreds of years before the time of Jesus. Most of which "came to pass" back then.
@@trumenfreight6055 Its kind of like saying that JK Rowling is a prophet because she had a prophecy in her book that is later fulfilled. It's nor impressive to make up a prophecy and then have on of your character's fulfill it. It's also not impressive to make a super vague prediction and then have people later say that it came true while they actively look for ways to prove it true. The problem with "prophecy" is that it looks really unimpressive to anyone who didn't already believe it was true
@@trumenfreight6055 Also people tend to ignore the prophecies that are wrong or don't happen and only focus on the very few that come to fruition. All prophets. Yes ALL, have always had more misfires, lies not happen, and moving goal posts then being correct about the future.
@@AllyMonsters be specific. Which prophecy given by biblical prophets did not come to pass.
I was brought up in an evangelical household. I was confused, unsure of myself and definitely not happy. Now I am an atheist and I'm very happy. I do not live my life in fear of eternal torment.
All religious beliefs and faiths, is in reality just ancient superstitious fear mongering bullshit, and most of all, mental, emotional and social slavery, which conditions & programs human beings to repress & suppress their true unique individualities.
All religions follow the same concept of conformity and uniformity, just like in the military, where we are not allowed to think, feel & live for ourselves. 🤦♀️🤷♂️🤷♀️🤦♂️
Once you get rid of the idea of eternal torment, there is no longer anything to fear. I went through the same transition, but fortunately it happened as I developed the capacity to engage in abstract thought in my early teens. I never really had a period of congnitive dissonance. Once I could think I just bailed out. My parents were distressed, but they knew they could not do anything to change me. They did their best to indoctrinate me, but all it did was innoculate me!
Not believing in eternal torment doesn't make it disappear. Good luck!
@@RossNixon And believing does not make it real. It is just another delusion. At least it cannot hurt you.
@@imac1957 The bible absolutely cannot be made up!
Logicked covered the book(s). The debunk of the books pretty much showed they were lifted, barely credited, from other apologists. And he could only get it published and "verified" on a site that is debatably dishonest.
After several decades of experience and interactions with different "apologets", I have come to the conclusion that there are just two basic variants.
A) The Grifter, who is trying the convince their audience that what they have been taught to believe is true, so that they will continue to support the grifter.
B) The Doubter, who is trying to convince themself that what they have been taught to believe is true, so that they will escape some undesirable (real or imagined) consequences.
100% Agree. I have found sanctimony to be a cover for doubt among theists... my former theist self included.
19:08: No, Emma, please watch some Sience-TH-camrs.
They are the siblings to Atheist-Channel anyway.
@The movie kingdom T.L.G She misrepresented the big bang theory.
@@freddan6fly
I don't think she intentionally misrepresented it. And she did say it's been a while since she'd read anything about it.
Everything is irrefuted when you've never listened to anyone refute it.
This guy's "irrefutable evidence number 4" reminds me a bit of the conversation I had with my mom the day she finally got up the courage to ask if I believed in god anymore. One of the first points she tried to use against me as "evidence" was that archeologists found remains of lost cities mentioned in the Bible so obviously it was a factual. She really didn't like my point of the possibility of Christian archeologists maybe naming locations based on biblical accounts of cities or the fact that fiction writers, even into current times, write fictions and place them in real cities or towns because that's what they know, have seen or inspired them and bringing up the specific example of Stephen King's "The Shining" being influenced by the hotel he happened to be at.
That Stephen King example is *chef's kiss*
I know Spiderman is real because archeologists have found convincing evidence of New York.
I refuse to believe New York exists. I know of the existence of Spiderman.
Les Miserables, The Three Musketeers and a Tale of Two Cities all set around real proven historical events which is how we know all the characters in those books were real people who absolutely did the things those books said they did.
@@wendyheatherwood Happy Easter, when we, the faithful, celebrate the resurrection of D'Artagnan.
Thanks for being you, Emma T! We need more, and more easily available, people like you online. I'm just an anonymous Joe Egg, but with just enough of a modicum of common sense to see the good sense in what you're saying. A few observations (which with my luck you probably already know by heart) in support of what you're saying: 1) Edgar Cayce (trance medium, just enough [not nearly all] of whose clairsentient predictions proved correct, making him the object of repeated investigations into the area of expanded awareness and its applications, and unfortunately the recipient of much distortion of his ability into a spiritual icon): "Religion is mankind's oldest excuse for avoiding true spirituality." 2) George Bernard Shaw (I feel I should apologize in advance for the source, in that he's been to a certain extent rightly blamed for fanning the inhuman flames of misogyny): From his somewhat faulted but still instructive play about down-to-Earth, practical spirituality, "Don Juan In Hell" (a.k.a. "Man and Superman", Act III): Lucifer: "An Englishman thinks he is being moral when he is only making himself uncomfortable." Same character later on: "What is man's religion? An excuse for hating me. What is his law? An excuse for hanging you. What is his morality? Gentility! An excuse for consuming without producing. What is his art? An excuse for gloating over pictures of slaughter. What are his politics? Either the worship of a despot because a despot can kill, or parliamentary cockfighting. I spent an evening recently in a certain celebrated legislature, and heard the pot lecturing the kettle for its blackness and ministers answering questions. When I left, I chalked up on the door the old nursery saying, 'Ask no questions, and you'll be told no lies.'" 3) Dr. Sir Arthur C. Clarke, in the last segment of his documentary, "Arthur C. Clarke's Mysterious World": "Not only is the universe stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we CAN imagine." 4) Robert Heinlein, in his novel, "Time Enough For Love", through the notes of the 6,000-year-old man, Lazarus Long: "The gods of most Earthly religions have all the intelligence, manners and morals of a spoiled child." Later in the same notes: "God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent. It says so right here on the label. If you have a mind capable of believing in any of this, I have a great bargain for you, but no checks, please, cash only and in small bills!" Finally, and given what you and all sensible people understand, "For a 'God' who is supposedly all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-forgiving, the 'God' of the Old and New Testaments and apparently the Quran is so insecure, he has an ungodly inferiority complex about his penis, especially regarding the attitudes of self-respecting people towards it, like sensible males, women and children!!!" (Yours Truly). In short, Emma T., keep up the good work, and I dearly hope numerous more people than before give you their honest attention!
Emma I admire your lightness and positivity in dealing with this kind of crazy dangerous people. They give me the creeps. They make me sick.
I love how people keep saying there are no contradictions in the bible when it very clearly does. It reminds me of one of my favorite Simpsons quotes:
Flanders: "I did everything the bible said, even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff."
Sure there are. But admitting leads those blind believers of the word without contextual interpretation into existential problems. So they don‘t give any way to it
Even the birthdate of Jesus cannot be right because two different sources name different historical references having 10 years between them. The Bible is a mammary oral based transscription though centuries. Believing this all to be the direct words of god is completely delusional. And I say that as a Christian! But if Anericans blindly call Trump Jesus 2.0 or descent of gif they clearly violate their own commandments m. Well …
GOD IS LOVE. 1 john 4.7-21....
LOVE IS NOT JEALOUS.
1 corinthians 13.4-7....
I AM A JEALOUS GOD. exodus 20.5....
plenty of CONTRADICTORY NONSENSE in the bible, provided you a NOT a brainwashed idiot ....
If these hardcore evangelicals accept that there are contradictions in the bible, they have to abandon the idea of a perfect book, describing the perfect deity - which in turn proofs the non-existence of their god.
So they will rather cling on to living in denial, ignoring the facts and cherry picking the biblical "truths" suitable for the given situation they find themself in.
Like what?
I once asked a born again christian if god could make a rock that he couldn’t lift. They replied, “Yes!” without hesitation. “Yes!” was also the answer when I asked if god could lift such a rock. Contradictions are apparently PROOF of god. So of course the bible is full of them. It’s a good thing your sarcasm is stronger than your frustration, because you’ll never get a level game from these people. Keep up the “bad” work! Love you! There, I said it too, does that make it less awkward?
Loved watching this. A very entertaining take-down of some ludicrously oft-repeated ‘arguments’. Adorable, cute bunny look? Yes, I think so. 😊
Logicked had reviewed his “book” and had sooo many criticisms before he even got to the heart of the book. It’s an interesting video to watch.
Can confirm, twas enjoyable.
"no human could have created the moral code in the bible" Hammurabi would like a word. That is, unless you want to claim that _his_ gods were real and _they_ came up with the moral system on the stelae. Bit of a catch 22 there.
It's amazing how confidently people make claims when they have zero education on the subject.
@Fk Yu That show had quite a number of brilliant points of rationality draped in humor. My favorite was the "missing link" bit where someone keeps pushing back to the professor's words on evolution. He keeps saying "but where's the missing link between us and ____" to which the professor responds with the intermediary species, over and over again until finally completing all links of our progression from early apes. "Fine! You got me there!"
@Fk Yu But what I'll mostly remember are his sweet disco moves.
The whole "Undeniable Proof" being the opposite of faith thing always reminds me of Hitchhiker's Guide and the Babel Fish argument.
The idea that if there was undeniable proof, then there would be no faith, and without faith, God is nothing. As such, undeniable proof immediately disproves God.
"And he promptly vanished in a puff of logic."
I feel like it deserves to be quoted in full. 🙂
“The argument goes something like this: ‘I refuse to prove that I exist,’ says God, ‘for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.’ “
‘But,’ says Man, ‘the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn’t it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don’t. QED.’
“ ‘Oh dear,’ says God, ‘I hadn’t thought of that,’ and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
“ ‘Oh, that was easy,’ says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.”
@@klebbe1 RIP Douglas Adams, what a Cool Frood he was.
@@RetroProgThat hoopy dude really knew where his towel was.
ironic that proof of god proves god does not exist. The paradox defies logic and in this defiance the only correct assumption is there is no god, never was and never will be so waste your faith and belief on an empty lie.
@@MrDogonjon Douglas Adams used the Babel Fish to make this point.
They need to find the missing pages of the bible that says:
This is a work of fiction. Names, characters, businesses, places, events, locales, and incidents are either the products of the author’s imagination or used in a fictitious manner. Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events is purely coincidental.
Not even Immanuel Kant, arguably one of the most influential philosophers of all time, could succeed in making the case for the existence of a divine creator. Something tells me this fellah ain't going to convincincing either.
Wait really? Where can I find Immanuel kant's case for god did he admit defeat or something like that?
I'd sum up his argument as that you cannot objective prove something that is beyond the system you are experiencing from within the system you experiencing. This would for example also apply to theories such as a simulated universe or even just plain old gravity experiments ... while being on a moving elevator. And he says that if a God exists, he would be similarly beyond our experience.
He then reasons that what we experience cannot be all there is to it, and that something must exist beyond. And then wants to prove that that would be God. But ... he kinda veers off at that point and instead actually tries to make a case for objective morale (categorical imperative and all that stuff).
Kant refuted the classical proofs, and then the opposite, indicating that God's existence is unproovable by logic.
Whya philisoph. Thats the last person i would ask. A mathemacian or an engineer.
Descartes created a proof for God in his Meditations. Now I don’t find his proof to be valid, but many philosophers who are religious will usr that one as a proof
I absolutely understand not wanting to cover him further. I find his content particularly difficult to watch. He seems to have learned the arrogance and condescension of apologists without actually learning the arguments beyond the most surface level... to say nothing of understanding any other worldview.
I watched logicked’s response series to him it was mind bogglingly bad
@@CrazyGamebino Agreed. I kept thinking, "it can't possibly get worse." I was repeatedly wrong.
I think you mean you find his "context" difficult to watch
@@jaelin9107 Perhaps that was a joke that has gone over my head (something that happens often), but if not, I don't know what you mean.
@@martinmckee5333 his book includes a "table of context"
You mentioned this guy’s payment apps, and the fact that he calls himself a ministry. Assuming he is an American(judging by the accent), this totally strikes me as a tax dodge. It’s ridiculously easy to become a church or ministry in the US, and then you don’t have to pay taxes.
Considering his other scummy behavior, I wouldn't put it past him to do this all in the name of tax fraud.
Tax dodge/scam. I find it hard to believe that people like this actually believe what they're peddling when they ignore things like, "it's harder for a rich man to enter heaven than for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle," or whatever it says.
I'll have to look into this...
its just sad that somebody out there is listening to that dude and believing him wholeheartedly
4:43 he says ‘if you’re gonna defend your faith’ as if he doesn’t block every single person who challenges him.
It's not a lie. Blocking his critics is how he defends his (personal, probably shaky) faith.
“Irrefutable” must have been on his word-a-day calendar recently.😂
You keep using that word; I do not think that it means what you think it means…
Take a shot: Irrefutable Edition
There was a time in college when I was convinced by an evangelical church organization to become a missionary. They were very much the type of Christians that use out of context verses to sell a narrative, and ironically, it wasnt until my first mission trip that led me down the path to becoming agnostic. If you study the bible, instead of individual verses at a time, you start to see the cracks. Someone once said "the single strongest cause of atheism is christianity," and I know that all too well.
Personally it was reading the book of Job that started to crumble the super belief that is christianity. I firmly do not believe the average christian will actually read much more than the selected texts as it's being read to them.
@@Klust413 As someone who grew up in Catholic school, Job did it for me as well. The entire book is that god killed a man's family, physically and mentally tortured him, all because the devil double-dog dared him to and that he wouldn't forsake god. And at the end god, just goes, "It was all a prank, bro!" and gives him it all back? Fuck that.
The road to atheism is littered with bibles.
I was already having doubts but then I read Genesis, and then the four gospels in their entirety... Those are actually the best parts of the Bible but even they can't withstand a shred of scrutiny. Yeah reading the Bible is definitely a good reason to become an atheist.
Thanks for your video Emma. I was raised in a family with a take it or leave it attitude towards religion although Jesus was always in the background in a very simplistic way. Later in life I became a catholic (must have been one of my off days), and remained so for 20 years. However after a while I I noticed I was becoming a little depressed and traced it back to my natural curiosity and inclinations to investigate the world in general. In January 2017, thanks to the internet, I had what I call my week of `divine revelation in reverse`, or my week of enlightenment. My conflict of reality and what the catholic church taught was the reason for my depression. To cut a long story short I am now a happy and content individual who takes pleasure in the natural world around me and get on so much better with others. It was a tough decision to discard my `faith` but well worth it and there is no turning back. Like your videos immensely. Best wishes to you.
Emma…..YOU ROCK!
As an Atheist…I have watched a lot of channels but yours is real and fun. Thanks!
And God Bless! 😂😂😂🤣😂😝😝
BTW…your frustration is what I share with you. My wife thinks I get upset for no reason…. But you get it.
Happily atheistic Dane here can confirm that despite Christianity being our official religion, we're generally profoundly secular and it's working out quite well
10/10 can recommend
The father of a friend's proof of a god: He was working on a jigsaw puzzle using the usual strategy of first finding and assembling all the straight-edge pieces. He had found all but one edge piece and decided to pray to god to show him where was the last edge piece. When actually, he prayed to St. Anthony, the patron saint of lost things. Knowing that Anthony would need a little time to pass the request on to God, the man took a break from the puzzle and had lunch. After lunch, he decided to continue with assembling the puzzle as if he had completed the edges. Some time passed by and there he was, not looking for the last edge piece when, lo and behold, he found it, just sitting there near his fingers! Proof of God!
Great video and good constructive arguments.
I once lived with a Muslim friend at Uni who found out I was an Atheist (I prefer Realist) and in shock, he actually said "But I don't understand, you're a good person" to which I responded, "I don't need a book to tell me not to be a dick to people". He seemed happy with the response :).
I do find it kind of terrifying that 85% of the Human population claim to be religious, especially when Religious Fighting is one of the biggest killers of Humans throughout history. Can't even blame low IQs as there are plenty of intelligent believers, guess it just shows how powerful brainwashing can be?
It's funny. When he was going through "people can only be happy when they know God, just imagine what a paradise the world would be if everyone believed" I thought to myself - okay, lets think about the history of Europe, where most people believed in God, and people who openly said they didn't could get themselves into serious trouble. Was *that* world a paradise of everyone behaving morally to each other and no-one having wars or anything? Or were there loads of wars, lots of christian soldiers fighting against other Christians for all kinds of reasons, sieges involving christian people who were servants of the wrong Lord or King being starved to death, and also people being burned or tortured for their beliefs because one set of people thought that another set of people had heretical beliefs. So, no, the evidence suggests that when the vast majority are Christian those societies are *not* in fact paradise on Earth.
@@paulhammond6978 the 30 year war es considered the worst war until ww1.
And it es started because of disputes between protestants and catholics.
😬
And it literally lasted 30 years. 1618 to 1648.
Dear John, I'm an Atheist, too.
But please don't shit on religion.
Faith is not about being realistic but about giving things a reason.
Christian people in the USA are dumb mofos. This guy above is the abomination of the kind of religious people who confuse faith with knowledge.
It is not the same.
I don't see anything wrong with people wanting a purpose in life. The structures are the problem here, but you can have that with any faith, modern gurus are quite the proof.
Anyway, my point is: you're not a clever little man to not believe.
Yea
As i imagine several people have put it, “If you need the threat of eternal punishment to be a good person, you’re not a good person”
Actually, mosquitoes are the greatest killer in human history.
CR-"Live exactly how the bible tells you."
Also CR-"My girlfriend that I'm not married to is pregnant."
Hypocrisy
Hopefully he'll pay the silver shekels he owes to his father in law for that
At least he's on brand
As a citizen of America I hereby apologize for my fellow countryman's horrible arguments. His arguments actually strengthened my atheism.
As a citizen of The Netherlands I understand this lack of logic and lack of even level headed understanding of cause and effect.
It is the lack that results from a) indoctrination at school and church, b) the missing discussion courses in school and c) the fact that people at home and in the street do not have conversations anymore. They fiddle their phones and thumbup/thumbdown on their socials. As usual since WW II, we in Europe import all this.
The scary thing is, that reasoning slides off their superior brain like water from a duck.
Not cringing, you are indeed adorable. I admire your wit, systematic reasoning, and humor. You are brilliant. I am a theist and like you I find videos like his cringy and hard to watch. Thank you for your authenticity.
Just wanted to point out this guy's intelligence hierarchy with what seems to be women on par with whales. Like what??? Loving your videos Emma!
Yeah, that one was hilarious.
Yeah, saw that too.
I don't think I have ever seen a person so unjustifiably convinced of his own intellect. I can't fathom how shallow someone has to be to consider such kindergarten apologetics convincing. I'm genuinely surprised he didn't mention Pascal's Wager at some point.
Hold onto your seat, people like him are legion.
“Pascal’s what?” 😂
@@keirfarnum6811 "Pascal's Wager"... Blaise Pascal was a philospher who suggested that it was better to believe in god, because if he didn't exist, you would lose nothing, but if it turned out there was a god, then you would not be sent to hell for eternity... LOTS of problems with this proposition... not least of which is the notion that god would accept such a peurile pretense at belief and not see through it. Then there's the question of how would anyone know which god to believe in, there are thousands of them! Pascal was, of course, presupposing the Christian god he had been brought up to believe in.
Don't mention it! ;)
@@keirfarnum6811 Yeah that "Pascal crap is laughable.
@@theseustoo Plus which god so you gamble with. There are many many gods and religious texts. Why would the text he believes in be the real one over others.
A good & useful quote: "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
Like the "oort cloud" and evolution! Great job. Call upon the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be SAVED! Neither is there salvation in any other! Jesus Christ is the truth, the way, and the life!
Well it can be. But whether something is asserted or dismissed does not affect whether it's true or not. It's not the killer quote that some people think it is.
@@MichaelAChristian1 evolution does have evidence for it though.
Jesus rising from the dead and gaining magic powers doesn’t.
@@waspoppin4784 That's just a lie. It shows you haven't thought about it. We have the TESTIMONY across THOUSANDS OF YEARS. All the prophets bore witness of Jesus Christ. Testimony and observation is what science is supposed to use. All the fields of science founded by Christians. God teaches men knowledge.
Now NOT one evolutionist on planet earth will EVER TESTIFY to seeing a chimp transform into a human being. So that means you have a BLIND FAITH. We will always have more than the evolutionists. But it only gets more obvious from there. Be honest. Which have you SEEN? An animal TALK or "punctuated equilibrium"? Be honest. Which have you SEEN? A whale living in water like a FISH or a whale walking around on LEGS like a COW? Which have SEEN? A RAINBOW ONLY ON EARTH as bible told you before the telescope existed or the IMAGINARY "oort cloud"? Which is REALITY and which is your IMAGINATION? Evolution is NOT "science". It is the false so called "science" that you were warned about thousands of years ago in the bible that DENIES the worldwide flood and tries to lessen the glory of God to a corruptible creature. You were warned in advance so you would not be deceived. Jesus loves you! Your life is precious! "darwin" died and stayed dead. You won't "evolve" out of it despite what the liars tell you. Jesus Christ DEFEATED DEATH! Neither is there salvation in any other! Jesus loves you!
@@MichaelAChristian1 Evolution has tons of empirical evidence to support it. What are you on about?
I'm an agnostic theist, and happily admit there's a ton of shit I do NOT know. I have reasons to believe what I do, but I call it *belief* for a reason. I don't know that my reasons would be sufficient to convince anyone else, and I'm not about to say anyone needs to believe as I do.
I once was a devout fundamental Christian and seriously, all such are way more mental than Christian, including myself at that period in my life. Fortunately, it *is* possible to deconstruct and move in a more sane direction.
I've seen a couple videos on his book. Misspellings galore, formatting issues, and by all accounts, plagiarism. He's a fun one and a great example to us all.
The Telltale Atheist explained
in one of his newer videos something that really touched me:
That more Atheists need to Run for Office.
Not only did he not just state it but make great Arguments,
but he even provided Ways to learn how to run for Office.
He was also suffering from dementia at the time it was written. 🙃
You nailed it. So many reasons to not just accept some religion as fact, but the simplest is just that they want to claim the word "Faith" and still want to claim there is irrefutable evidence as well. You don't need one if you have the other.
This guy has a direct line to God, but can't put a goddam battery in his smoke detector
God'll fix it
It is God's will that he shall inhale the smoke from his burnt toast
I can tell you unabashedly 100% true, the minute I gave up religion is the minute I found happiness
I am sure this has been said before but... did you notice that in proof two,10:26, the man was higher than the woman in the pyramid.
And octopus lower than cow or even fish... and the top of the pyramide should be the Donald-Trump-Kind? Seriously?
@@schabe6419 yeah I saw that too, thanks for pointing it out.
Yes, man/woman equality is not really a thing in religion. And then they see people with other religions or no religions.
Antony Flew (according to his wikipedia article) argued not just against a Christian god, but for Atheism from age 15 to about age 81, when he changed his mind and began believing in a god. At age 87 he died suffering from Dementia. What's the argument again?
Also congratulations to all women for scoring rank two in creation, alongside whales. lol.
I noticed the second tier ladies as well. Gross.
If your brain malfunctions, the probability of you beginning to believe in God increases?
@@richardscottmills Except in Gen 1:26-28 when God made people together, "So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them."
@@RustyWalker huh? I didn't make or sign off on the content of CR's pyramid. What're you telling me for? O_o
@@RustyWalker Can't find that one -- only verses like "And God said, Let us make man according to our image and likeness" (ESV) and "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness" (KJV) where the gods (plural) :0 -- need I say more?
Emma: "I know I'm being really facetious and ridiculous..."
Me: *appreciating every second of vicarious agreement*
first time watcher, LOVE IT! awesome style and realy good pace of the vid. keep at it!
If there was a god, wouldn't He have changed the battery in this guy's smoke detector?
Sure it wasn’t a BS detector… 🤔
Functioning smoke detectors show a lack of faith in God’s protection
😂 I was scrolling the comments section to see if anyone else noticed!
I'm in my 30s, I grew up in the American South, like... I'm the trail end of the last great church going generation. In my life I went from being an avowed christian to not being that, and I've watched as almost every single church institution completely collapsed under controversy and hypocrisy bar very few. So seeing in 2022, that there is still some person young trying to arguing literal interpretations like... It's just baffling.
I literally cannot fathom what life experience they went through, necessary to make them so sheltered as to look at the absolute crater that is Christianity in 2022, and go: "Yes, this looks real." Someone in their 60s or something, they are just there from inertia. But the young man that is the topic of this video? Come on.
Props on the vid examining it.
What's baffling about young people holding Christianity as a reasonable position?
@@unamusedcaveman9235 that you have had countless sex abuse scandals, televangelists stealing Money from millions, church politicization to the nth degree, the rise of business church prosperity gospel, and declining church pop all the way through reducing money and community throughout. Methodists had a major exodus of members, catholic churches that dominated some European countries 40 years ago are seeing unbelievable droppoffs in attendance, and the LCMS lutheran church is running out of ministers... And those are three examples in directly know about because of personal involvement.
Again, its a crater at this point, where 30 years ago it was an institution.
@@ash12181987 I agree, there have been various scandals among church members throughout history. But surely you can't seriously suggest an entire concept in and of itself is false just because a handful of its adherents happen to be involved in scandals? That would be intellectual dishonesty. In order to disprove Christianity you need to evaluate its teachings and doctrines independently of those who profess themselves to be Christian.
@@unamusedcaveman9235 the basic concept of creationism is an alien done it.
@@unamusedcaveman9235 no, that's whatever arbitrary hurdle you gleaned from some pro-religious personality, as a talking point to throw at people who you feel the need to debunk. I don't really care what any of that actually means. If you want to gloss over lots of sexual abuse, and the like 5 other things as 'oh its just a few people' then bully for you. It exists, and just writing it off is kind of the hypocritical galaxy brained thinking that lead to the catholic sex scandal becoming a big as it did. It makes Christians look aloof and smug.
Finally TH-cam’s algorithm worked well! So happy to have found you. This guy just breaks my heart, although the hands toward the end scream “I fancy myself a preacher” which concerns me. I used to be just like that, parroting others, but now I’m an atheist.
13:14 "Why couldn't he just shut the door while he was filming?"
Perhaps his parents are fed up with his behaviour, and have told him "No more shutting us out of your room".
I half expected to see his Mother putting her head round the door and saying 'Stop now - your dinner's ready' ...
A few years ago, I would have swallowed this whole.
It's only recently that I realized that I started with the statement of 'The bible is true' and looked for proof of that. Anything that disagreed was immediately dismissed as a hoax or lie.
But finding actual facts requires starting with no 'truth' and looking at the proof with an open mind, and drawing a conclusion from the most reliable data.
Which is why I'm now agnostic/pagan lmao
The Bible explanation:
"In the beginning
a Hebrew desert god named Yahweh
created the heavens and the earth."
A better explanation:
The Cosmos had no Creator or beginning
it always was.
For myself at least, the act of writing down my beliefs led to a more honest examination of said beliefs. The cascading result of crossing a line through the very first conviction I didn't actually hold was ultimately a complete re-examination of everything I thought I held true but clearly no longer did.
I suspect it might be a good time to try this exercise again to take stock of my current beliefs, not only to reference where I once was but also to determine if I'm still on the same course I believe I am.
Good luck on your journey.
@@JamesRichardWiley Or better yet, "We don't have any way to know for sure, but we're working on it."
You had a point until you said your pagan lmao you can't be serious
I understand your place of starting and the inability to find evidence. Same here
My mother was a Catholic and my father was raised in a Christian household (though he is an atheist). I believed in god when I was young but then my mother died when i was 9, withering away in a hospital. When that happened I began questioning the existence of such an all powerful being as my mother was very devout, and I thought why didn’t this all powerful being save her? Why weren’t our prayers for her answered? My worldview was permanently changed after this, and anyone who told me it was “gods plan,” or “everything happens for a reason,” and even worse “she’s in a better place,” infuriated me.
At that moment I became an atheist, and I’ve been happier ever since. I live my life as I so please as it’s the only one we get. Then I found George Carlin and Christopher Hitchens, who each solidified my position even more so! There never was a god, there have only ever been people trying to control their fellow men and women through fear. Socrates (if he existed) said it best “anyone who tells you what happens after death is either lying to you or a fool.” Even if it wasn’t Socrates who said it, the statement remains just as true.
Funnily enough, that determination to draw such a hard, vast line between human beings and the rest of the animal kingdom which is so prevalent throughout Christianity, is actually the initial thing that got me questioning it as a kid. Like yeah, duh, of course there are tons of things that make us unique as a species. But using those differences to justify believing that animals don't have *any* worth or meaning at all is something that's always boggled my mind, especially as someone who has spent their entire life surrounded by animals who, despite our differences, have clearly all been individuals with their own personalities and feelings. And like you said, if this guy is right, then what was the point of God creating them in the first place?
Also I don't care how great any afterlife might be - if it's only humans there and no animals then frankly that kinda sounds like hell lol
Bingo!!! My wife and I agree that animals are more noble than people, and as a teacher I used to tell students that the trees outside our windows were more worthy to live than we, because they only produced good things and nothing bad.
It's more likely humans are a virus than we are superior to the rest of the animal kingdom - we are literally killing the planet we live on.
@@Hiforest It seems pessimistic, but you have hit the nail on the head! The sooner we can realize that we are not superior to, and separate from, all the other plants and animals, the better chance we have of saving some portion of the planet's ability to continue to support us.
@@stevepierce6467 I wish it wasn't true, it's pretty depressing to realise the planet we live on would be far better without us here.
@@Hiforest I feel so sad knowing how imprisoned we are by an infrastructure put in place after WWII and just puffed up ever since by big business: ever larger houses, on ever larger plots, ever more distant from downtown, and ever larger cars (and here in central USA, even more monstrous pickup trucks), and recently pared-back bus service. We are totally at the beck and call of oil, gas (and coal) and auto industries here.
I'm going to quote you, next time I'm answering a morality question on Quora. "If morality came from God, then it would never change." Excellent and straight to the point. Thank you, Emma.