There is actually an organisation in the uk called Atheism UK. I’ve been to one of its talks. It’s about ridding the world of religion (tall order!) in the belief that religion is generally a bad thing for modern society and culture. Which I wholly agree with.
And everyone knew that it was so. For he said it with his own beautful words. He said to me, he said, sir you have the most handsome mouth and the most eloqua.. eloquate... eloneca... the BEST words. He said, it not me...therefore twas the truth. Here endeth the lesson.
And then all of those 800-1000 atheists gathered together to discuss, after a few minutes they all came to the conclusion to crown this guy as the new king of the "reformed Atheist" cult, and all of the females promised him that they will name their first born after him, and all of the elder atheist gave him a million dollars ( or whatever currencies they have in that area), and the baby atheist gave him a hug.
@@centurion722 But you can always say it was mass hallucination. In reality we are here for a reason: to experience separation from God. Why? To understand the good and bad side of existance. We are left in darkness by design, so we could discover the truth in a hard way.
It's almost like religion attracts raging narcissists who see it as a means of amassing power and dominating a willing audience without actually practicing the tenants of that particular denomination.
“Spitting”, “frothing at the mouth” and somehow “eloquent”. Not sure about anyone else, but every time I’ve encountered anyone eloquent, the last thing I’d expect is for them to be spitting and frothing. This guy is clearly a fraud, end of story.
@@allen1755 bruh it's a fuckin book made in China like I highly doubt the tales are real and if so then why have people looked away... maybe because yall are to negative to certain groups? Yea gonna say that and call it a day
@@jcskyknight2222In fairness, the school would really need to reduce its classroom sizes if there are 800 students per class (I know you're saying to a lecturer event not a class. And now I've explained and ruined the joke. So good job all around, me.)
Could the whiteboard fit up a chimney, in case you wanted to take the show on the road with Santa on Christmas Eve? If it does, I may have an opportunity for you.
@@akizetaHe does? I'm not a native English speaker... from my perspective, ALL English accents are exotic (The most exotic being English spoken with my own native accent).
The other day, I was debating 800 - 1000 Christians, and the Head Christian said I'm stupid, and then I used one simple argument and he was crying and they were all sad but then they agreed with me and gave me highfives and a sprite.
As another Australian, I fear that your calculations may need to be revisited. I think you may have forgotten to _carry the one_ in there. Clearly, this story is *107% likely to be a fabrication.* No need to thank me. _You're welcome!_ 😂
I did a cheeky google search for the atheistic society, got to the 4th page with no hits. I did however find an evangelical Christian society at the U.
whenever someone asks you if God could be in places you havent looked say no. because the God they believe in, has an important message for humans specifically.
Emma, you are way too kind. Personally, I don't believe a single word of his story! For a start no Atheist Society would hold a debate headed "There is no god" unless they are all "hard" Atheists. Highly unlikely. His whole story stinks of something he cooked up to give his story some sort of credence. Either way, a great breakdown again. Thank you.
Seriously, "it's time for the There Is No God debate" is such a hilarious idea. 95% of the room would just silently agree that claiming to know whether something god-like exists or not is impossible / silly, and the other 5% would be the "hard atheists" (read: idiots) screeching into a corner. It's wild how theists _consistently_ misrepresent and misunderstand what atheists actually think.
There are couple of inconsistencies: After a brief googling (so I can be wrong) it seems that Cambridge has an Atheist and Agnostic society (which puts into question his claim that everyone was a hard atheist) He was given less time to present his argument (which seems like him trying to paint atheists as biased and their arguments as weak) The topic was "There's no god" yet the debate seems awfully Christian centric There are thousand people attending all hating God (wow our preacher is such an underdog) The person he's debating is a stereotypical angry atheist (yeah a professor would totally debate like a redditor) And he wins the debate, by presenting such a nothing burger of an argument that doesn't even get us a step closer to the Christian God. In the end it's just another version of the classic "Creationist meets a biology professor on a plane and stumps them with an argument that a 5th grader can debunk"
@@colbyboucher6391 I would clarify that it *is* possible to falsify some god claims: those that are self-inconsistent. That would include the common claims about the Abrahamic God. They are all invalidated by the Problem of Evil.
@@chrisgraham2904 Shame on you for not knowing the Grand Atheistic Pope, The Most Exalted Preacher of the IPU, Pastafari, Eris, Russell's teapot and Laplace's demon 🤨
To start a completely different tangent than Ricky Gervais-It’s an interesting angle she’s put forth here - are you motivated to take some sort of action towards participating in a goal, hobby, whatever? I personally feel no motivation to ski, and would take different actions if I did. I might say, if I were Swiss, that of course I LIKE skiing more than dislike it, but I don’t do it. Am I a skier? I might feel more comfortable saying yes, but the honest answer would be no.
Huh? Not believing in certain beliefs is a belief. Not believing superstitions or hypothesis is a belief. Alternatively, Just because I can imagine something, doesn't make it real.
@@ehrenlaughlin1193 Incorrect. Not believing something is not the same thing as believing in the absence of it, or believing the opposite. You can tell me that you're the secret King of the World and if I doubt that and don't see evidence for it, then I don't believe it. However, if I do not have sufficient evidence or definitive proof that you are NOT King of the World, then I can also not BELIEVE that. I can estimate statistical likelihood of which event is more likely, yet not have a belief in either because I do not actually know one way or the other.
I'm not a Christian (nor will I ever want to be one), but the ironic thing is that Emma is more of one than most of these people. She understands what the religion (I.e. knowledge about the Bible and her interviews on here) is and cuts right through their sugar coated bullshit. It's all political and about "owning others" with shitty memes and cherry picked Bible verses to create narratives rather than spreading kindness.
My favorites are the 'Christians' always to be found in the comments declaring gleefully that we're gonna be REEEEEAL sorry on judgement day. I'll bet watching the atheists get judged draws a bigger crowd than witch burnings used to.
@@crono3339I became a Christian due to this argument. But then I walked into an Italian restaurant and had revelation over a carbonara. I immediately reverted back to being a pastafarian. The only faith that has the testable and proven sauce of all goodness.
Our creator said in Quran: "Did you think We had created you in vain (without any purpose), and that you would not be brought back to Us?’ (Quran 23:115) "Exalted is He (God) who holds all control in His hands; who has power over all things; ˹He is the One˺ Who created life and death in order to test which of you is best in deeds. And He is the Almighty, All-Forgiving. who created the seven heavens, one above the other. You will not see any flaw in what the Lord of Mercy creates. Look again! Can you see any flaw?" (Quran 67:1-3 ) "Do man think he will be left without purpose? Was he not a drop of sperm emitted (in lowly form)? Then he was a clinging clot, and [ God ] created [his form] and proportioned [him] producing from it both sexes, male and female. Is such ˹a Creator˺ unable to bring the dead back to life?" "Every soul will taste death, and you will only be given your [full] compensation on the Day of Resurrection. And whoever is removed away from the Fire and admitted to Paradise, he indeed is successful. And what is the life of this world except the enjoyment of delusion" (Quran 3:185) "We shall certainly test you with fear and hunger, and loss of property, lives, and crops. But [Prophet], give good news to those who are steadfast. those who say, when afflicted with a calamity, ‘We belong to God and to Him we shall return.’ (Quran 2:155-156) "Indeed, in the creation of the heavens and the earth and the alternation of the night and the day are signs for those of understanding. those who remember God while standing and sitting and on their sides, and reflect upon the creation of the heavens and the earth: “Our Lord, You did not create this in vain. Highly Exalted are You, so protect us from the punishment of the Fire." (Quran 3:190-191) "Those who have believed and whose hearts are assured by the remembrance of God . Verily in the remembrance of God do hearts find rest!" "O humanity! Indeed, God’s promise is true. So do not let the life of this world deceive you, nor let the Chief Deceiver(Satan) deceive you about God. Surely Satan is an enemy to you, so take him as an enemy. He only invites his followers to become inmates of the Blaze." (Quran 35:5-6) "Their messengers answered, ‘Can there be any doubt about God, the Creator of the heavens and earth? He calls you to Him in order to forgive you your sins and let you enjoy your life until the appointed hour.’ But they said, ‘You are only men like us. You want to turn us away from what our forefathers used to worship. Bring us clear proof then, [if you can].’ (Quran 14:10 ) Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said: “When God loves one of His slaves, He tests him to hear his supplication.”
Atheism is just an empty philosophy. A person who denies the existence of a God will not be held accountable. He will live freely in the world and do whatever he wants, but this is a huge mistake. Most of the world believes in the existence of Allah. The world is short, the afterlife is eternal. On the day of judgment, everyone will be resurrected and will be called to account. Those who do good will be rewarded.❤❤❤
i'm having a very difficult time believing any of this happened. i remember, when i was a devout little thing, that my teachers (christian school), preachers, and others always made up these scenarios and told us they were happening... they seemed to think christianity was being persecuted simply by athiests (or other beleifs) existing. they'd refer to athiest churches, and talk about these huge meeting, sermons, etc that athiests would hold where they planned against christians and ridiculed them. they'd talk about how they made a simple argument (like in the video) and the atheists would almost always fall to their knees in tears and beg god's forgiveness. the odd part of this all, on reflection, is that they knew... KNEW they were blatantly lying. which is pretty much all you ever need to know about evangelists and christian victim syndrome.
I suspect the tendency to make up stories like that is somewhat rooted in what Jesus did with his parables. At least that's how I assume preachers justify these lies to themselves. Incidentally, the fact that religious teachers always have a "true" story at hand that just so happens to be super-relevant to my situation at the time, that fact was definitely part of what made me suspicious of the whole institution.
it always seemed to be literally our core curriculum - we're being actively repressed, imprisoned, and killed for our beliefs... when a simple look around not only disproves that entire premise, but really highlights that christians are the ones doing all the persecution. and it makes me ashamed that i spent my youth bying into it.
As someone who grew up in a very religious environment, later seeing my way out of it. One of the big things that helped me get out was noticing that many of the grand stories people told about their own experiances were fabricated. My inclination of this grand story is to check to see if there is any mention anywhere, other in his claim, to back up the story. I found nothing confirming the story, I did find that several other people have looked into it and found nothing, also Cambrige atheist society has put out that it didn't happen. Dare I say I'm inclined to believe this is all a lie. Edit, That he tells this untrue story is to me evidence that he also doesn't believe in god anymore than I do.
@@Naptosis nah, that's easy to dodge. The verse in question is talking about bearing witness against your neighbor in a legal setting. As it expands in Exodus, don't side with many in a lawsuit to pervert justice, nor lie to help a poor man get a lighter sentence. Now, hit them with good ol' Colossians 3:9 instead, "Do not lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old self with its practices." But they won't care anyway. They'll say it was an amalgamation of different conversations they had, and they meshed them together and embellished to help get their point across, and the story wasn't meant to be taken literally. Then their congregation will hand wave it and say "but you know, those kinds of interactions happen all the time."
I remember competing for lead atheist in school. There were some who were better than me though and I got stuck with 3rd agnostic. Better than nothing.
Reminds me of the "I told the sales lady 'You can say Merry Christmas' and then the entire store applauded." fairy tale. Pulling lies out of their ass to appeal to gullible idiots is kinda their whole shtick.
i deliberately ask people to say happy now - because seeing people being pointlessly angry over something sooo irrelevant........ something something darkside...... people marrying bridges........ children in toilets......
This apologist claim has gotten so lazy the latest is from AIG canada where a militant atheist professor attending HIS lecture and converted on the spot and received Jesus. The echo chamber is fully sealed.
Maybe they get so bent out of shape over "Happy Holidays" because they have to acknowledge that there is more than one of them on that particular season and the fact that they stole all of the most fun aspects from each of them because they couldn't come up with anything original.
@@meh2510 Main character syndrome, in their mind it can't possibly be that some group besides them is acknowledged, especially on equal footing. That's perceived as an affront.
I think that this pretty-well sums up organised religion..... I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off, so I ran over and said, "Stop! Don't do it!" "Why shouldn't I?" he said. I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!" He said, "Like what?" I said, "Well, are you religious or atheist?" He said, "Religious." I said, "Me too! Are your Christian or Buddhist?" He said, "Christian." I said, "Me too! Are you Catholic or Protestant?" He said, "Protestant." I said, Me too! Are your Episcopalian or Baptist? He said, "Baptist!" I said, "Wow! Me too! Are your Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord? He said, Baptist Church of God!" I said, "Me too! Are you Original Baptist Church of God or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?" He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God!" I said, "Me too! Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915?" He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915!" I said, "Die, heretic scum!" and pushed him off.
There are currently around 4,000 religions and 45,000 versions of Christianity. And then you consider every single person has their own personal bastardized version of a particular religious doctrine and every single person believes they have it right.
And it worked. Because these people wanted to believe his lies. They have nothing solid to support their beliefs, they will grasp at any lie that makes them feel justified, ignoring the vast holes and flaws that are just so easy to spot.
It's actually a commonly used social engineering method. When describing "the enemy" you need to make him seem like a genuine threat (to add veracity, and make sure you don't sound like a bully)... in this case, the large turnout, plus things like 'eloquent' and 'intelligent'. But at the same time they have to be portrayed as obviously flawed, so the 'protagonist' of the story can triumph... in this case, the frothing, the obvious inequality of the debate, the blind walking right into his 'trap'... It's used in religion all the time to demonize whatever bugaboo they're after in the moment... and a lot of times, in politics too. Like how immigrants will simultaneously steal all your jobs, while at the same time being lazy and criminal... It's an easy fallacy to spot once you start looking for it.
and that was on a slow day, usealy he took 9 seconds to keep her busy for 9 months and the hardest part for her was to pretent those 9 seconds brought her closest to heaven she ever came.
@@kamion53 According to atheist religion which rejects free will and therefore any personal responsibility, How can it be evil when a grown up adult male atheist bones kids? He has no free will. No other choice than to do what he does. He is innocent. Shouldn't even be ashamed of what he does.
@@AtheistReligionIsCancerlegal scholars like Stephen Morse and Ahmad Atiq point out... We still have the utilitarian reasons of 1. Deterrence 2. Incapacitation 3. Rehabilitation. But not 4. moral retributiveness. No. There is no justification on its own grounds for reward or punishment or for someone feeling good or bad about their actions. Einstein said his not believing in free will helped him not loosing his temper. At any rate we already know that free will is not possible. A strong claim, sure. But not hard to back up. Also, kind of a weird place to interject that. The topic here is this mans supposed lack of sexual stamina
"And then I said 'Checkmate, atheists!' and all the atheists fell to their knees with tears in their eyes and begged Jesus to save their souls!" This guy's story is as true as the bible. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Now, parts of the stories in the bible has been verified using independent sources. Most notably the non-deital parts. This guy meanwhile is definitely having trouble not lying when he is asleep.
This preacher, by the way, took the same example from yet another preacher. It's just a copy. Apparently he was so impressed that he wanted to tell the same story as if it were his own idea. It is a shallow way of thinking that is very easy for an atheist to tackle.
@@brightroarttttbbbb you can do good and still be an atheist. Also, at least in my country we have >20 thousand laws we must obey to be good citizens, so no "walking free in the world". And, since we are into it, just by looking at current events, I bet you no atheists kidnapped israely civilians near Gaza a few months ago, and no atheists are dropping bombs on Gaza civilians since then ... those are all do-good believers... if those people get to go to heaven because of it, then religion is pretty messed up.
@@roddydelipsa1769 sure, sure, mao was actually good when he did away with 70 million people. Remember, he freed them from their suffering. Okay so he was the cause of their suffering in the first place, but that's just a minor detail. Fact is, that mao liberated 70 million people.
@@roddydelipsa1769 But can you explain to me, as ann atheist who believes there is no free will because free will is outside of science, How can it be evil what mao did to 70 million people, when he had no free will to not do what he did? He didn't have a choice, so he had to do it? Is it evil when you have no choice?
I'm an 80-something year old Believer. No atheist has ever challenged nor insulted me for my belief. However, I have often been very embarrassed by how other alleged christians have spoken to atheists without provocation. You know, there are other things to talk about in this life besides religion and politics. Sports, movies, cooking, books... The list goes on. And no one's feathers get ruffled. No one likes an evangesticle!
well I guess the issue is here: when I talk to you about Sports, Movies, Cooking, Books... guess what unites all these? - THEY PAY TAXES - They dont insist they are the only source of truth in the world - Usually they dont cover up their pedophiles Meanwhile the church (any church) - does not pay taxes - always tries to be the one and only - (officially acknowledged by the Pope) covered up pedophiles for decades. So I dont mind speaking about Harry Potter book series. Its author is a best-selling preacher of the fantasy world, she earns superstellar money, pays superstellar taxes. She does not F kids, and does not try to MAKE everybody in the world read her book. You want it - you read it. No - pff, fine. I dont mind speaking about Superbowl: i guess around 90% of the WORLD does not even care about American Football :)) Superbowl is an 'world cup' ONLY in the US. ONLY. Nobody else cares - Europe, Asia, whoever else - Superbowl does not exist there as a sports idol. And superbowl sells ads, pays taxes, does not F kids, does not try to MAKE everybody a coach sees play football :))) And so on, and so forth. Religion is always a business. While personal spirituality is always something I dont really care about: anyone has the right to believe in anything. But once it becomes a tool of power, influence - it's called 'religion'. And it's a huge business :) So let's make all the religions pay taxes like,... emm.. say, shrinks. Shrinks talk to people who feel bad. People confess to them. Shrinks explain them how to behave and what to do to feel better - and they ALWAYS offer legal (e.g. non-criminal) ways. So - in my views - no difference from a priest. But shrinks PAY TAXES. So let's tax the church, call it just a business, erase 'in God we trust' from our money (because even putting it there is another powergrab by the church, and it happened only recently). And voi-la
Agreed. I’m an atheist and it’s basically the last thing I ever want to talk about. My family is pretty religious, but we get along famously and have nothing but love for each other. We agreed a long long time ago that it’s not worth arguing over.
It's kind of like when you hear a preacher say "The story is told of...". You know right then that he's about to pull some idiocy straight out of his ass.
Can't really blame him if he's been suckered (or suckered himself) into believing as factually accurate a book that features talking serpents and donkeys, and a verbatim account of a man conversing with God in the presence of 3 guys, all of whom were asleep.
@@triplem9805 ...and pdf file atheists claiming that men can give birth? According to atheist religion, What is wrong about incest? Should we ask mad pedolahunty? richard dorkins? Maybe ask commie harris?
the fact that of the 2 minutes 1'40'' was the little story of how he was treated by these "1000 atheists" and 20 seconds was a fucking drawing alone, makes the whole prologue crumble because he wouldn't have really needed 2min (if you take out the story, that hadn't happen yet) if you were living it, but 30 seconds at most
He definitely puts an end to the conversation, but only by being so profoundly ignorant that it becomes clear having a conversation with him would serve less purpose than having a conversation with a nearby table lamp.
This interaction with the Cambridge Atheist Society definitely happened. His description of crazed atheists frothing at the mouth is a well known behavioural trait.
@@joxer 🤣 Yes, because as we all know, atheists are prone to using the most _unnecessary and flowery_ adjectival forms of words, when a simple and plain form of the adjective already exists. Much like the _complicated and unnatural_ reasoning that atheists use when debating theists. _Wait! No. I might have that backwards!_
I literally had a guy at work one time pull this same 'argument' out on me. I had quite the chuckle when I asked him "couldn't all the greek gods be there too?". He erased it and essentially said "only the fool will say there is no god". Can't win with indoctrinated people that don't have critical thinking skills and bravery to question what they know.
Those who lack the courage to challenge what they believe will never advance. Many years ago, when automobiles were in their infancy, the 'popular' belief was that humans could not survive travelling faster than 40mph. Medical science has advanced ONLY because SOME people had the courage to challenge 'popular' beliefs. (Allegedly) 'god' gave humans a brain capable of great intelligence. Surely it's an insult to 'god' if one refuses to use that brain to investigate, challenge and, thus, clear away falsehoods.
yes, all the greek gods are demonic creatures that Jesus himself sent to hell. Yes the Greek "gods" were real, but they ate not good. Only God is good.
"only the fool will say there is no god" Only a fool would seek out a god at the very alters where millions of children have been brutalizes & raped Or maybe your god was to busy masturbating to raise a finger and STOP THE RAPING & DEHUMANIZING of its "greatest creation" I generally only hear one of 2 comments: "Oh, look at the time, gotta go" " Not listening, not listening, la, la, la, la, not listening"
I went to an atheist convention once, just because I wanted to see what happens when people gather to talk about one thing they don't believe. It turns out, it was the most informative conference I have ever been to. We had astrophysicists, theology PHDs, evolutionary biologists, neuropsychologists, and Richard Dawkins present. It was amazing what we could explore once we stopped believing in one little thing.
And there were the secret sessions where the Evil Atheists would plot how to bring the churches into disrepute and destroy everything that was Pure, Good, and Decent. Those were the best part.
I’ve seen this clip before. It hasn’t improved with age. This guy is totally recalling a fantasy he conjured while taking a cold shower. Good response. Cheers, Emma!
I'm a little embarrassed for the crowd that they cheered. But believing fantasies I suppose is something they're slightly more prone to do, aren't they? The preacher should just run for office. He'd get a lot of Republican votes no doubt.
@@neil2444 If you enjoy that cheering crowd then you should watch some Dr Zakir Naik. He says that most ridiculous stuff and people cheer like he didn't just say the dumbest crap ever.
He's not recalling it, he's plagiarizing it. I've seen the identical story recited by another preacher, including the white board, the circle, the university, everything.
EMMA!! Do not tell the theists that we are vulnerable to stabbing!! Our perceived physical invulnerability is the only thing that's kept them at bay all these years!
Here’s probably what happened: He was on some university’s campus spouting off on a soapbox and he was then challenged by some of the atheists who were walking by and then he tried this garbage argument thinking he would win some debate prize. And all he did was make some of the Christian students applaud him. He then walked away all proud of himself when the atheist students had baffled looks on their faces because they couldn’t comprehend how anyone would think that this was an intelligent argument.
Nah he wishes he had Ray Comfort's cajones to publicly get owned by a 18yr old stoner but these narcissist avoid exposing their ignorance. These conversion stories only exists in the echo chamber of evangelical charismatic stages and you can see the evolution, pardon the pun, of it by creationists from random strangers in forced close quarters like an air plane or doctor office waiting room to some unnamed liberal university where a angry atheist is converted by the humble prosperity gospel preacher
This is a REALLY good guess as to the most likely scenario. And we could probably add the part where he asked for the clapping kids to come to a worship service. (And bring money.)
Even that's pretty charitable. I have little doubt that this is a situation he fantasised about and simply decided would absolutely have happened if given the chance. He then removed all the modal verbs, changing 'I would have said' to 'I said', et voila.
I always love how those preachers revert the burden of proof. As soon as you claim something to exist, it is not my responsibility to disprove your claim, but rather yours to verify its legitimacy.
same can be said for atheist, they claim God does not exist but cannot prove that.. atheist often hide behind science like science is something we all know and is unaltered from the beginning of time. people discover and people theories are often wrong. that hasn’t changed. I am a Christian and I believe in God for my own reasons.
Actually this is not so clear if this is the case. If you make a positive claim about ANYTHING you have burden of proof. So: "god does not exist" has just as much burden of proof as "god does exist". If I were to say that apples dont exist, surely you would press me on this and ask me to prove it? Agnosticism is the withholding of judgement on both premises and so they dont have burden of proof, although this is not clear either as some suggest even agnosticism has burden of proof at some point: If you keep giving me proof and evidence and every time i say: "nah im not convinced", then surely at some point you're gonna be like: listen ive given you 100s of proofs yet nothing convinces you, what is your 'proof' or evidence that is more convincing then mine?
Hi Emma. I saw this a few months ago being torn down by someone (I can't remember who) and I can almost guarantee that there is no such thing as an "Atheistic Society", here in Australia or anywhere else in the entire world. Maybe in another dimension, but not here in this one!
the circle thing came from a video made some time ago... it's that old its in black and white......in the video he claims it's his thoughts and ideas when he has clearly stole the idea
He is using the language "Atheistic Society" intentionally to propagate the idea that Atheism is a faith based Religion. "Atheistic" sounds more religious and preachy then Atheist.
@@paulrichards6894 It's an old idea that has done the rounds before, basically a rehash of the God of the gaps fallacy. These preachers recycle each others content enthusiastically, it is easier than actually coming up with a new argument.
@@Fedaykin24 i mean using the circle to illustrate...if you watch the whole of the video he claims to have come up with the circle idea himself but he is in fact lying
@@Fedaykin24 "it is easier than actually coming up with a new argument" - There are no new arguments to come up with, they've already exhausted them over the past 2000 years.
Hilariously, if he's arguing that "you don't know that there isn't a dimension where god does exist." But that kind of suggests that our current dimension does not contain god. He literally gave an argument where god doesn't exist.
Love how he's talking fast and in halting broken sentences JUST like my 3 year old niece when she's making up a story... also love that the people on stage watching him are making the same faces adults make when small children tell you their stories, one looks zoned out the other looks like he's got that hummoring smile
People who are insecure tend to shout very loudly. Have you ever seen a professor who shouts very loudly when he or she explains his or her findings that are supported by evidence? Exactly the same in debates. The theist generally shouts and the atheist does so in a moderate tone.
That’s how Christian preachers talk. It’s actually a tactic they are taught to build up tension and payoff so that their story resonates with you and makes you feel like something is moving you. It’s gross.
Kid in my junior school once told me how he was attacked by seven other kids... and one of them was in high school. Well, he did all sorts of karate moves on these attackers, taught to him by his dad,, (who was in the SAS). By the end, they were all on the floor and he walked off victorious. Amazing story. He also had a girlfriend, in Ireland, who I never met.
Sounds like a dude who went to my college. But instead of complete fabrications, he would re-tell other guy's cool stories but replace himself as the main character as if he did the cool thing himself.
Some men fantasise about taking out a group of armed ninjas invading their workplace and some men fantasise about defeating obnoxious atheists in huge society meetings in universities.
So you could evaluate your mortality and fragility, still live, and have time to come to a knowledge of truth that leads to repentance. You are beautifully and wonderfully made by the Lord, and faith in his death, burial, and resurrection for the payments of your sin will grant you everlasting life. It's so easy It's embarrassing not to at least consider it, especially if Christians think your eternal life depends on it. Seek Jesus seriously and YOU tell me what happens afterward...
@@cpenrose100 "I beat you to an inch of your life several times so you could be a better person!" - someone who is going to jail. God being abusive so you can learn a lesson is pitiful, especially since he set up the entirety of the circumstances around it in the first place. Are you telling me God couldn't give those lessons without giving someone cancer...twice?
He for sure made this story up, unless the only university in the city of Cambridge Australia is hosting debates and events of 1 k people with no promotion or record of the event happening.
We once went into the woods. There were little furry creatures that wanted to eat my friends. I told them not to. I'm a golden robot, so they thought I was their god. They did not eat us. This is as true a story as that one. Yours C-3PO.
Those teddy bears also tried to cook and eat me. Even though I’m made of metal It’s curious that you neglected to mention that to them in your godhood. I was freed later and zapped a few of them. It was good. R2-D2
"Yeah but what if?" does not win this debate. He was told to prove that a god does exist. Not to shrug and say "could be, maybe, you don't know". And beyond that, agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive. Agnostic is a descriptor, not a solid position. You can be an agnostic atheist, hell, you can be an agnostic believer, but you aren't just "an agnostic." You can be a strong person; you can't be a strong. You can have a fun time; you can't have a fun. You can be an agnostic atheist; you can't be an agnostic.
The worst part is that there are people who believe it. As soon as they see a video about Christianity 'winning,' all common sense goes out of the window. They just see a man yelling at them, but it's good because he's owning the atheists, and that must mean he's right. No need to actually understand or, heaven forbid, deconstruct what he said.
In Germany we call this "Geschichten aus dem Paulana Garten" Translated: Storys from the Paulana Garden Paulana is a Beer so it is a Beer Garden and the ad from Paulana beer was a Group of people who tell unbelievable storys
To be fair…you know he wasn’t taking to a room of non believers. So he was leaving you alone, you and this Emma are the ones who clicked on him and his video😊
His ultimate sure-to-defeat-any-atheist argument is literally just "god of the gaps". I don't recall it destroying atheism the first time it was articulated.
@@sammur1977 It is “god of the gaps.” The preacher literally drew an arrow to the “unknown” section of the circle (the gap) and said that’s where god is. But I am curious about your comment that we have ways to find truth other than scientifically. Like what? I use Aron Ra’s definition for truth: that which comports with reality. I would think the only way to know what is real is through science. You may have a different definition for truth. To which I would quote: “But what is truth? Is truth unchanging law? We both have truths. Aren’t mine the same as yours?” _Jesus Christ Superstar_
@@sammur1977 The burden of proof lies with the person making a claim that something exists. It stands to reason they have verifiable proof, or they wouldn't make the claim at all. If they don't know what credible evidence is then they should not be making a claim in the first place and certainly should not ever sit on a jury. Theists like to deflect away from providing any proof by asking non-believers what evidence they're looking for. It's a sure sign they don't have any.
@@sammur1977 It is God of the gaps fallacy. You're even doing it yourself and yet you don't realize. When you say "since science will never know such a question" you are creating the gap and filling it with God. Where you say "We do however have other ways of knowing truth not just scientifically." You are saying "We don't know the answer to this, so we can never know the answer to this, so the only possible explanation is God magic." You literally did the God of the gaps fallacy TWICE in a row and didn't even know you were doing it. That's the effect dogma has. And then you just casually deflect the burden of proof by asking us what evidence we would like... My guy, you're the one making the claim that a God exists. If you don't know how to prove it, that's not our problem. A claim without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. You claim a God exists and provide no evidence, so I have no obligation to tell you why I reject your claim.
"Spitting and frothing at his mouth", "people who believe in God are stupid", "boos and hisses". I'm beginning to think that he might have conflated Cambridge University with Cambridge Kindergarten. Edit: actually no strike that. Kids wouldn't even act this immature.
Of the two universities in Cambrige, UK, one does not have an Atheist Society and the other (Cambridge University Atheist and Agnostic Society) has said "No, we did not invite him and this event did not happen. We've never heard of him." So unless Glyn Barrett was referring to Cambridge, Massachusetts, or some other Cambridge that he drove to from his base in Manchester, UK (quite a considerable distance in anyone's book!), he's lying through his teeth (like it was in any doubt 🙄)
And IF he went to one of the two universities in Cambridge, MA, he would have ended up at either Harvard or MIT. Two places that would have the kind of people who wouldn't have an Atheist Society made up of such numbskulls as to make such a boneheaded argument in regards to the nonexistence of God.
There's no lecture *theatres* in Cambridge that seat 1000 people. Source: know the university departments very well. The whole point of Cambridge is to teach in small groups! Might be 1000 people in the Arts Theatre, or maybe the University has an entertainment venue that seats 1000. But no lecture 'hall'.
It is obvious before and targetted at an audience that hardly know Cambridge evel excists. It is also one of those 1000 and 1 "success" stories that has even less credibility than the fairytales of Sherahezade.
Ah but what about the knowledge of the lecture theatres you don’t know. You my friend are a lecture theatre agnostic, and one step closer to his Jesus Check mate atheist
"We are as vulnerable to stabbing as anyone else." Emma, did you have to TELL them? We just about had them convinced we were immune to that kind of thing. 😂
0:48 Damn it, Emma. The main reason I became an atheist was to become invulnerable to stabbings! To find out I was mistaken in the first few seconds of your video was quite upsetting!
As an agnostic, I find the idea I'm close to a Christian to be a joke, and nothing but a joke. I view organised religion as a means of social control, and an inherently misogynistic one, in their case. My view is that its impossible to know either way, and as a woman, if i were to join any religion, why would i choose one that explicitly hates women and thinks we should be silent slaves?
@rhiwright. Obviously there are different ways of defining or labelling your beliefs but a lot of atheists including myself would say that you are also an atheist. It goes like this...theist means having a belief in the existence of god or god's. Atheist means not having a belief that god or gods exist. Gnostic means having the knowledge of...in this case gods existence and agnostic means lacking the knowledge that gods exist so I am an agnostic atheist, I don't believe that god or gods exist but I lack the actual knowledge that this is the case. So I think we are both what I would call agnostic atheists, both lack the belief that gods are real but don't know for sure. Hope that helps but in the end don't worry if my way of labelling isn't one you would care to use. Each to their own and obviously his argument is absolutely bollox.
@@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279 The agnosticism part is bootless anyway. Technically, agnosticism about everything is required by the classical epistemological dictum that absolute knowledge about anything is impossible, with the exception of one's knowledge of one's own internal psychological/emotional/perceptual state. I suspect most people who label themselves as agnostics are motivated mainly by the desire to avoid social controversy. If one declares that one does not know whether a god exists, then one is inescapably declaring that one does not have a positive belief in a god. This stance fulfills the definition of atheism used by most current atheists. No perceived sufficient evidence to support a belief in a god entails no belief in a god. A positive claim that no god does or can exist does not enter the picture because of the classic epistemological rejection of absolute, positive knowledge about any aspect of the external world.
@@pythondrink god could just turn up and introduce themselves then we would know they exist but God never does except apparently in stories or to loonies. Otherwise the general God concept is unfalsifiable but specific god's with properties such as the Christian god with the tri-omni abilities and being all loving and perfectly just is falsifiable because it's properties are contradictory.
I think human intelligence is limited. There's things it's impossible to even think up the right questions to even begin to find out. The hard question of consciousness is one example, whether or not there's any such thing as divine being(s) is another Also, I have the right to define my own thought processes as I see fit. They are mine. Stow your big words and judgemental attitude, I'm not interested, any more than I would be in equivalent words from a theist. Stop. Evangelising. Your. Views. It's rude and disrespectful. SMH. You don't see me trying to argue with your self-definition.
A very good video, Emma. How to defeat a preacher in 2 minutes? Ask them to hold a bible and swear that a story they have just told you is completely true. I doubt that Glyn Barrett would do so on this occasion. He is a pastor of !Audacious Church (sic) in the UK. So he is referring to Cambridge in England. The Cambridge University Atheist and Agnostic Society (aka the Cambridge University Atheist, Secularist, and Humanist Society) has a statement on facebook from 16 May 2016: _“We've recently been getting lots of questions about a GOD TV video in which Pastor Glyn Barrett describes a debate with a university "Atheistic society" after driving to Cambridge. We don't know anything about this debate… To the best of our knowledge, it never occurred. If we misunderstood the situation, we'd be happy for Pastor Glyn to set us straight. So far, he hasn't.”_ The BkupAcct youtube channel has a statement (allegedly) from Glyn attempting to cover his lie: _“It was not my intention for it to come across that the debate forum was Cambridge. As you know, sometimes in public speaking, when you are in a rush, you don't always articulate things in the best manner."_ Just before he deleted his video. The channel !Audacious Lies has a video showing that Glyn didn’t even make up his own lie. His entire script appears to come from a similar sermon by Mark Finley. I think we can reasonably conclude that Glyn’s job includes bearing false witness.
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I feel certain that this "Atheist Society" and "Head Atheist" confrontation also happened in a dimension we haven't discovered yet.
100%
😂😂
💅💅💅 I'm not telling
LMAOOO
There is actually an organisation in the uk called Atheism UK. I’ve been to one of its talks. It’s about ridding the world of religion (tall order!) in the belief that religion is generally a bad thing for modern society and culture. Which I wholly agree with.
Then the big atheist, strong atheist came to me, tears in his eyes. He said "sir, you won bigly" and everybody clapped.
lol, great minds. I was thinking the same thing.
Delusion is baked into religion. There's also overlap with pathological liars.
And everyone knew that it was so. For he said it with his own beautful words. He said to me, he said, sir you have the most handsome mouth and the most eloqua.. eloquate... eloneca... the BEST words. He said, it not me...therefore twas the truth. Here endeth the lesson.
And then all of those 800-1000 atheists gathered together to discuss, after a few minutes they all came to the conclusion to crown this guy as the new king of the "reformed Atheist" cult, and all of the females promised him that they will name their first born after him, and all of the elder atheist gave him a million dollars ( or whatever currencies they have in that area), and the baby atheist gave him a hug.
I heard this in Seth Meyers’ Trump impression. 🤣🤣
"God could clear a lot of stuff up with a five minute press conference." - George Carlin
wouldnt even take a 5 min press conference, even a public appearance would go a long way
@@centurion722 But you can always say it was mass hallucination. In reality we are here for a reason: to experience separation from God. Why? To understand the good and bad side of existance. We are left in darkness by design, so we could discover the truth in a hard way.
@@ATRestorationvideo cameras don't take part in mass hallucinations tho
@@ATRestoration not the point buddyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
@@dynhoywwe know the point is for you religious people to apologize for some immoral magical being that can't prove itself
The "lead atheist" is what i will name my next main villain in my new DnD campaign
Shouldn't it be "lead christian" and he's a bad guy because he makes people listen to stupid arguments like these? 🤣
Is that someone that doesn't believe lead exists?
His plan is to kill all the gods to make his beliefs real
I think this would make for a lovely character, particularly if set in the kind of universe where gods show up for tea.
the existence of a lead atheist implies the existence of a rhythm atheist...
My guy couldn't even win in a fake argument he made up.
like... when pdf file atheists claim that men can give birth and nowhere in history has this been true?
😂😂😂😂😂😂
like... when pdf file atheists claim that men can give birth and nowhere in history has this been true?
this seems like one of those shower arguments i make up... but he was weak on that one too
like... when pdf file atheists claim that men can give birth and nowhere in history has this been true?
I've always found it strange how many preachers think they are following a notoriously humble mans example while having no humility.
It's almost like religion attracts raging narcissists who see it as a means of amassing power and dominating a willing audience without actually practicing the tenants of that particular denomination.
And gah that stupid circle of known information thing. I've heard that argument so many times. So many problems with it.
@@Lanier2369 precisely, why his desert demiurge than the Greek gods? Or pikachu!?
They're following money , that's why they don't mimick their jesus's humility
its all a grift. nothing but a grift. ten percent for the big guy...
It's almost like he completely made the whole interaction up.
Yeah, maybe. 🙄
Almost like *wait for it* religions? Oh, no, they didn't! ;-)
(Yes, I did.)
More than likely
That's the impression I got.
He definitely made the whole thing up.
“Spitting”, “frothing at the mouth” and somehow “eloquent”. Not sure about anyone else, but every time I’ve encountered anyone eloquent, the last thing I’d expect is for them to be spitting and frothing. This guy is clearly a fraud, end of story.
Nah, he just had rabies
This whole thing sounds like a 'devil recites scripture' story. No confirmable details whatsoever.
Sounds like Mr. Ed after Wilbur runs him around the track a few times.
Spitting and frothing and making eloquent arguments like, "you'd have to be an idiot to believe in a god."
As someone who grew up in the church, the fastest way to defeat a preacher in under two minutes is to ask to see their internet history. 😂
Or look in their basement...
@@DoctorZisIN That could be VERY disturbing!
another way is to read the bible so you know hes not lying
@@allen1755 bruh it's a fuckin book made in China like I highly doubt the tales are real and if so then why have people looked away... maybe because yall are to negative to certain groups? Yea gonna say that and call it a day
Holy shit haha, that’s a big yikes from me
Absolutely the most unbelievable part of this is that they got 800 students to show up to a non mandatory event
No way. He got Donald Trump to count them.
Maybe there was free beer?
@@markvonwisco7369 I would have said free pizza, but free beer would have gotten me there too.
You couldn’t get 800 students to turn up to a lecture for their course.
@@jcskyknight2222In fairness, the school would really need to reduce its classroom sizes if there are 800 students per class
(I know you're saying to a lecturer event not a class. And now I've explained and ruined the joke. So good job all around, me.)
I used this same logic to defeat the Anti-Santa Society. I had an audience of 800,000 and a much larger whiteboard.
Wasn't it a white beard?
Could the whiteboard fit up a chimney, in case you wanted to take the show on the road with Santa on Christmas Eve? If it does, I may have an opportunity for you.
You did what!
Ho ho ho!
@@graememaxwell3113 That wasn't a white beard he was just frothing at the mouth.
This guy has never encountered an atheist.
He talks very loudly, he gestures a lot, he has a flipboard and a sharpie.... he MUST be right!
That is how this works
And he has an exotic accent!
@@akizetaHe does? I'm not a native English speaker... from my perspective, ALL English accents are exotic (The most exotic being English spoken with my own native accent).
@@Groffili It's an Australian accent, not an English one.
Ever noticed how the most confident ppl tend to be the most diletant ones in the same time ?
The other day, I was debating 800 - 1000 Christians, and the Head Christian said I'm stupid, and then I used one simple argument and he was crying and they were all sad but then they agreed with me and gave me highfives and a sprite.
I bet there wasn't a dry eye in the room and everyone received a witness of the Sprite.
Thank you for defeating all religion, how long did it take?
Shortly thereafter, the Head Christian (Codename: Cross Out) revealed his cybernetic augmentations and a sword fight ensued.
Sprite is the devil
The Head Christian already has a name, the pope... but I still have a problem with a head atheist preaching... your story is way more believable...😂
As an Australian, I can confirm that this is 97% likely to be a fabrication.
As another Australian, I fear that your calculations may need to be revisited. I think you may have forgotten to _carry the one_ in there. Clearly, this story is *107% likely to be a fabrication.* No need to thank me. _You're welcome!_ 😂
97%, with a +/- 3% margin of error.
I did a cheeky google search for the atheistic society, got to the 4th page with no hits. I did however find an evangelical Christian society at the U.
You must be using the bell curve. LOL@@humbleevidenceaccepter7712
Flat earther claiming the poster here is a paid actor in 3......2......1.........
How to be right about anything: shout at a crowd that already agrees with you
He debated ALL the atheists and EVERYONE CLAPPED. 😂
And that boy? He grew up to be Albert Einstein.
Drowned boy, Wiston Churchhill
This is totally it really happened on reddit.
Exactly what I was thinking. :'D
*golf clap
How to defeat a preacher in 2 seconds: don't give them any money.
That and ask him what he thinks a dimension is
Or alter boys
..or simply take their altar boys away.
Same goes for democRATS!🤣
@@daviddavies4657we're not asking for 10% of anyone's income...
It is amazing what can be "defeated" when you can just make up a story completely.
At least, he has a job, which places him above 80% of thosecI heard being very successful.
Nah, I was there, everyone clapped. We're all fundamentalist Christians now.
Like people made of straw?
Sounds like Christianity
@@franck3279 What? "Thosecl heard"? Lol! You Monkeys with keyboards are amusing
whenever someone asks you if God could be in places you havent looked say no. because the God they believe in, has an important message for humans specifically.
Emma, you are way too kind. Personally, I don't believe a single word of his story! For a start no Atheist Society would hold a debate headed "There is no god" unless they are all "hard" Atheists. Highly unlikely. His whole story stinks of something he cooked up to give his story some sort of credence. Either way, a great breakdown again. Thank you.
Seriously, "it's time for the There Is No God debate" is such a hilarious idea. 95% of the room would just silently agree that claiming to know whether something god-like exists or not is impossible / silly, and the other 5% would be the "hard atheists" (read: idiots) screeching into a corner. It's wild how theists _consistently_ misrepresent and misunderstand what atheists actually think.
A "pastor" spouting a lie for Yushua, colour me surprised. What a w*nk*r, this is the best xtians can offer?😂😂
There are couple of inconsistencies:
After a brief googling (so I can be wrong) it seems that Cambridge has an Atheist and Agnostic society (which puts into question his claim that everyone was a hard atheist)
He was given less time to present his argument (which seems like him trying to paint atheists as biased and their arguments as weak)
The topic was "There's no god" yet the debate seems awfully Christian centric
There are thousand people attending all hating God (wow our preacher is such an underdog)
The person he's debating is a stereotypical angry atheist (yeah a professor would totally debate like a redditor)
And he wins the debate, by presenting such a nothing burger of an argument that doesn't even get us a step closer to the Christian God.
In the end it's just another version of the classic "Creationist meets a biology professor on a plane and stumps them with an argument that a 5th grader can debunk"
See my previous post.
@@colbyboucher6391 I would clarify that it *is* possible to falsify some god claims: those that are self-inconsistent. That would include the common claims about the Abrahamic God. They are all invalidated by the Problem of Evil.
"The lead atheist"? Why do these "preachers" always get so excited when they are just lying through their teeth? 😀
Because one day they'll triumph over the King of all Atheists and then we'll all have to convert.
I was also unaware that atheists had a Pope. lol
We draw straws and whomever loses has to debate the nonce hungover.
@@chrisgraham2904 Shame on you for not knowing the Grand Atheistic Pope, The Most Exalted Preacher of the IPU, Pastafari, Eris, Russell's teapot and Laplace's demon 🤨
I'm almost surprised that he didn't specify Dawkins. Except that if he had, that would have made it easier to check how bogus the story was.
To quote Ricky Gervais: "Saying atheism is a belief system is like saying not going skiing is a hobby."
To start a completely different tangent than Ricky Gervais-It’s an interesting angle she’s put forth here - are you motivated to take some sort of action towards participating in a goal, hobby, whatever? I personally feel no motivation to ski, and would take different actions if I did. I might say, if I were Swiss, that of course I LIKE skiing more than dislike it, but I don’t do it. Am I a skier? I might feel more comfortable saying yes, but the honest answer would be no.
Huh? Not believing in certain beliefs is a belief. Not believing superstitions or hypothesis is a belief. Alternatively, Just because I can imagine something, doesn't make it real.
@@ehrenlaughlin1193 Incorrect. Not believing something is not the same thing as believing in the absence of it, or believing the opposite. You can tell me that you're the secret King of the World and if I doubt that and don't see evidence for it, then I don't believe it. However, if I do not have sufficient evidence or definitive proof that you are NOT King of the World, then I can also not BELIEVE that. I can estimate statistical likelihood of which event is more likely, yet not have a belief in either because I do not actually know one way or the other.
Bill Maher: “atheism is a religion in the same way that abstinence is a sex position”.
Correct. Great analogy.
"if you have any argument that can defeat a priest in under two minute":
1: let him discuss a proof that end in "threfore god exist"
2: > "Wich one?"
*Which
I'm not a Christian (nor will I ever want to be one), but the ironic thing is that Emma is more of one than most of these people. She understands what the religion (I.e. knowledge about the Bible and her interviews on here) is and cuts right through their sugar coated bullshit.
It's all political and about "owning others" with shitty memes and cherry picked Bible verses to create narratives rather than spreading kindness.
Though that's mostly the extreme of American "Christians", something that has developed into a mere freak show.
Most Atheists value morals and are more disciplined than any Christian.
@@Iskelderon It's really bad in a lot of countries, but the US simply has the biggest circus tent for the freak show.
My favorites are the 'Christians' always to be found in the comments declaring gleefully that we're gonna be REEEEEAL sorry on judgement day. I'll bet watching the atheists get judged draws a bigger crowd than witch burnings used to.
@@grantm6514There's no hate like "Christian love" .
Wow. I'm now a Christian thanks to that man's totally not made up story. Amen
Same, I am now sitting in the front row waiting to be yelled toward so I can nod my head and yell YEP.
@@crono3339I became a Christian due to this argument. But then I walked into an Italian restaurant and had revelation over a carbonara. I immediately reverted back to being a pastafarian. The only faith that has the testable and proven sauce of all goodness.
Well technically anyone who became Christian after reading the bible did the same thing as you so this could easily not be sarcasm.
Alhamdulillah
Our creator said in Quran:
"Did you think We had created you in vain (without any purpose), and that you would not be brought back to Us?’ (Quran 23:115)
"Exalted is He (God) who holds all control in His hands; who has power over all things; ˹He is the One˺ Who created life and death in order to test which of you is best in deeds. And He is the Almighty, All-Forgiving. who created the seven heavens, one above the other. You will not see any flaw in what the Lord of Mercy creates. Look again! Can you see any flaw?" (Quran 67:1-3 )
"Do man think he will be left without purpose? Was he not a drop of sperm emitted (in lowly form)? Then he was a clinging clot, and [ God ] created [his form] and proportioned [him] producing from it both sexes, male and female. Is such ˹a Creator˺ unable to bring the dead back to life?"
"Every soul will taste death, and you will only be given your [full] compensation on the Day of Resurrection. And whoever is removed away from the Fire and admitted to Paradise, he indeed is successful. And what is the life of this world except the enjoyment of delusion" (Quran 3:185)
"We shall certainly test you with fear and hunger, and loss of property, lives, and crops. But [Prophet], give good news to those who are steadfast. those who say, when afflicted with a calamity, ‘We belong to God and to Him we shall return.’ (Quran 2:155-156)
"Indeed, in the creation of the heavens and the earth and the alternation of the night and the day are signs for those of understanding. those who remember God while standing and sitting and on their sides, and reflect upon the creation of the heavens and the earth: “Our Lord, You did not create this in vain. Highly Exalted are You, so protect us from the punishment of the Fire." (Quran 3:190-191)
"Those who have believed and whose hearts are assured by the remembrance of God . Verily in the remembrance of God do hearts find rest!"
"O humanity! Indeed, God’s promise is true. So do not let the life of this world deceive you, nor let the Chief Deceiver(Satan) deceive you about God. Surely Satan is an enemy to you, so take him as an enemy. He only invites his followers to become inmates of the Blaze." (Quran 35:5-6)
"Their messengers answered, ‘Can there be any doubt about God, the Creator of the heavens and earth? He calls you to Him in order to forgive you your sins and let you enjoy your life until the appointed hour.’ But they said, ‘You are only men like us. You want to turn us away from what our forefathers used to worship. Bring us clear proof then, [if you can].’ (Quran 14:10 )
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said:
“When God loves one of His slaves, He tests him to hear his supplication.”
Having a "lead atheist" is like having a "leader of people who don't believe in unicorns".
Unicorns are just a horse wearing a strap-on.🦄🤣
Atheism is just an empty philosophy. A person who denies the existence of a God will not be held accountable. He will live freely in the world and do whatever he wants, but this is a huge mistake. Most of the world believes in the existence of Allah. The world is short, the afterlife is eternal. On the day of judgment, everyone will be resurrected and will be called to account. Those who do good will be rewarded.❤❤❤
I read the "lead atheist" as an atheist who is made of lead.
You'd only need someone like that in a world chock full of systems of government that heavily rely upon and enforce the belief that unicorns exist.
@@brightroarttttbbbbyou also just have a belief system, there’s no way to prove it, we just believe what we believe
I just fell in love with your voice and your way of reasoning. That was some lovely logic and reaction!
Subscribed right away.
i'm having a very difficult time believing any of this happened.
i remember, when i was a devout little thing, that my teachers (christian school), preachers, and others always made up these scenarios and told us they were happening... they seemed to think christianity was being persecuted simply by athiests (or other beleifs) existing. they'd refer to athiest churches, and talk about these huge meeting, sermons, etc that athiests would hold where they planned against christians and ridiculed them. they'd talk about how they made a simple argument (like in the video) and the atheists would almost always fall to their knees in tears and beg god's forgiveness.
the odd part of this all, on reflection, is that they knew... KNEW they were blatantly lying. which is pretty much all you ever need to know about evangelists and christian victim syndrome.
It worked for the gospel apologists. Why not modern apologists?
I suspect the tendency to make up stories like that is somewhat rooted in what Jesus did with his parables. At least that's how I assume preachers justify these lies to themselves.
Incidentally, the fact that religious teachers always have a "true" story at hand that just so happens to be super-relevant to my situation at the time, that fact was definitely part of what made me suspicious of the whole institution.
A person who bases their world view on made-up stories might justify it with a made-uo story? Say it isn't so!
it always seemed to be literally our core curriculum - we're being actively repressed, imprisoned, and killed for our beliefs...
when a simple look around not only disproves that entire premise, but really highlights that christians are the ones doing all the persecution.
and it makes me ashamed that i spent my youth bying into it.
Its as fictional as his favourite book.
As someone who grew up in a very religious environment, later seeing my way out of it. One of the big things that helped me get out was noticing that many of the grand stories people told about their own experiances were fabricated. My inclination of this grand story is to check to see if there is any mention anywhere, other in his claim, to back up the story. I found nothing confirming the story, I did find that several other people have looked into it and found nothing, also Cambrige atheist society has put out that it didn't happen. Dare I say I'm inclined to believe this is all a lie. Edit, That he tells this untrue story is to me evidence that he also doesn't believe in god anymore than I do.
I'm just surprised that the story didn't end with the atheist in tears, saying "Thank you, Sir, for showing me the light." 🤣
Precisely, you can turn 'thou shalt not bear false witness' against all these preachers.
@@grantm6514 "He came right up to me. Big atheist, tears in his eyes. You're a stable genius, sir, stable genius, he told me bigly."
@@Naptosis nah, that's easy to dodge. The verse in question is talking about bearing witness against your neighbor in a legal setting. As it expands in Exodus, don't side with many in a lawsuit to pervert justice, nor lie to help a poor man get a lighter sentence. Now, hit them with good ol' Colossians 3:9 instead, "Do not lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old self with its practices."
But they won't care anyway. They'll say it was an amalgamation of different conversations they had, and they meshed them together and embellished to help get their point across, and the story wasn't meant to be taken literally. Then their congregation will hand wave it and say "but you know, those kinds of interactions happen all the time."
Did you check all the Cambriges?
I remember competing for lead atheist in school. There were some who were better than me though and I got stuck with 3rd agnostic. Better than nothing.
Lucky you, I had to make do with being a backing atheist.
Did that make you the "Deputy-Agnostic", or the "Vice-Agnostic"? At least you were on the "Executive Board" of agnostics.
Better to be the lead atheist rather than antitheist.
I was a roadie for some atheists. It was a good job, much less baggage than evangelicals have you lugging around.
"I remember competing for lead atheist in school."
i am not a lead atheist.
i believe in lead.
"God could exist" is no evidence afaic.
Reminds me of the "I told the sales lady 'You can say Merry Christmas' and then the entire store applauded." fairy tale. Pulling lies out of their ass to appeal to gullible idiots is kinda their whole shtick.
i deliberately ask people to say happy now - because seeing people being pointlessly angry over something sooo irrelevant........ something something darkside...... people marrying bridges........ children in toilets......
This apologist claim has gotten so lazy the latest is from AIG canada where a militant atheist professor attending HIS lecture and converted on the spot and received Jesus. The echo chamber is fully sealed.
Maybe they get so bent out of shape over "Happy Holidays" because they have to acknowledge that there is more than one of them on that particular season and the fact that they stole all of the most fun aspects from each of them because they couldn't come up with anything original.
@@meh2510 Main character syndrome, in their mind it can't possibly be that some group besides them is acknowledged, especially on equal footing. That's perceived as an affront.
I think that this pretty-well sums up organised religion..... I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off, so I ran over and said, "Stop! Don't do it!" "Why shouldn't I?" he said. I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!" He said, "Like what?" I said, "Well, are you religious or atheist?" He said, "Religious." I said, "Me too! Are your Christian or Buddhist?" He said, "Christian." I said, "Me too! Are you Catholic or Protestant?" He said, "Protestant." I said, Me too! Are your Episcopalian or Baptist? He said, "Baptist!" I said, "Wow! Me too! Are your Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord? He said, Baptist Church of God!" I said, "Me too! Are you Original Baptist Church of God or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?" He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God!" I said, "Me too! Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915?" He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915!" I said, "Die, heretic scum!" and pushed him off.
With thanks to Emo Philips.
You could just ask if he was Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1879 from the start lol
Christianity and Buddhism, the two religions
There are currently around 4,000 religions and 45,000 versions of Christianity. And then you consider every single person has their own personal bastardized version of a particular religious doctrine and every single person believes they have it right.
@@marcomarletta1430 That would have spoiled a good joke
Guy literally got on stage and lied his ass off and expected people to think he's righteous. Wow.
That's religion in a nutshell.
And it worked. Because these people wanted to believe his lies. They have nothing solid to support their beliefs, they will grasp at any lie that makes them feel justified, ignoring the vast holes and flaws that are just so easy to spot.
You knew damn welll that story was completely made up as soon as he started talking
@@sle2470your pfp matches your comment perfectly haha.
Probably the kind of guy who confuses his narcissism with the idea of gods love.
You make so good points and the way you think and stop and comments are just a beauty of fun 🎉
"he's spitting, he's foaming at the mouth.." *and* he's eloquent. Priceless.
Seeing his own style of speaking... spitting and foaming at the mouth seems to be what he considers "eloquence".
Yes I thought that was how things are in reality 😂😂
That's what he thinks an eloquent speaker is.
the atheist 3 headed dog that guards the domain of utter nothingness...
It's actually a commonly used social engineering method. When describing "the enemy" you need to make him seem like a genuine threat (to add veracity, and make sure you don't sound like a bully)... in this case, the large turnout, plus things like 'eloquent' and 'intelligent'. But at the same time they have to be portrayed as obviously flawed, so the 'protagonist' of the story can triumph... in this case, the frothing, the obvious inequality of the debate, the blind walking right into his 'trap'...
It's used in religion all the time to demonize whatever bugaboo they're after in the moment... and a lot of times, in politics too. Like how immigrants will simultaneously steal all your jobs, while at the same time being lazy and criminal...
It's an easy fallacy to spot once you start looking for it.
"Luckily, he only needs two minutes."
That's just what his wife says.
and that was on a slow day, usealy he took 9 seconds to keep her busy for 9 months
and the hardest part for her was to pretent those 9 seconds brought her closest to heaven she ever came.
@@kamion53 According to atheist religion which rejects free will and therefore any personal responsibility, How can it be evil when a grown up adult male atheist bones kids? He has no free will. No other choice than to do what he does. He is innocent. Shouldn't even be ashamed of what he does.
@@AtheistReligionIsCancerlegal scholars like Stephen Morse and Ahmad Atiq point out... We still have the utilitarian reasons of 1. Deterrence 2. Incapacitation 3. Rehabilitation. But not 4. moral retributiveness. No. There is no justification on its own grounds for reward or punishment or for someone feeling good or bad about their actions. Einstein said his not believing in free will helped him not loosing his temper. At any rate we already know that free will is not possible. A strong claim, sure. But not hard to back up. Also, kind of a weird place to interject that. The topic here is this mans supposed lack of sexual stamina
@@paulnejtek6588 But why is pdfilia not evil according to atheist religion?
Strawman fallacy.
"And then I said 'Checkmate, atheists!' and all the atheists fell to their knees with tears in their eyes and begged Jesus to save their souls!"
This guy's story is as true as the bible. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Now, parts of the stories in the bible has been verified using independent sources. Most notably the non-deital parts. This guy meanwhile is definitely having trouble not lying when he is asleep.
I miss Eddie Current
This preacher, by the way, took the same example from yet another preacher. It's just a copy. Apparently he was so impressed that he wanted to tell the same story as if it were his own idea. It is a shallow way of thinking that is very easy for an atheist to tackle.
@@TheDancefreak35 His whole spiel looks like Ray Comfort's routine to me... Was it Ray?
@@Tasarran I can't remember if it was Ray. His way of preaching is indeed similar.
I love that you popped up on my feed… you are wonderful to listen to.
"These events took place in my imagination soon after I was booked to preach here today."
Pretty much....
@@brightroarttttbbbb you can do good and still be an atheist. Also, at least in my country we have >20 thousand laws we must obey to be good citizens, so no "walking free in the world". And, since we are into it, just by looking at current events, I bet you no atheists kidnapped israely civilians near Gaza a few months ago, and no atheists are dropping bombs on Gaza civilians since then ... those are all do-good believers... if those people get to go to heaven because of it, then religion is pretty messed up.
@@roddydelipsa1769 sure, sure, mao was actually good when he did away with 70 million people. Remember, he freed them from their suffering. Okay so he was the cause of their suffering in the first place, but that's just a minor detail. Fact is, that mao liberated 70 million people.
@@AtheismPoisonsEverything yes, fanatics are a real danger, whether they´re religious or not.
@@roddydelipsa1769 But can you explain to me, as ann atheist who believes there is no free will because free will is outside of science, How can it be evil what mao did to 70 million people, when he had no free will to not do what he did? He didn't have a choice, so he had to do it? Is it evil when you have no choice?
I'm an 80-something year old Believer. No atheist has ever challenged nor insulted me for my belief. However, I have often been very embarrassed by how other alleged christians have spoken to atheists without provocation. You know, there are other things to talk about in this life besides religion and politics. Sports, movies, cooking, books... The list goes on. And no one's feathers get ruffled. No one likes an evangesticle!
What kind of books do you like?
well I guess the issue is here: when I talk to you about Sports, Movies, Cooking, Books... guess what unites all these?
- THEY PAY TAXES
- They dont insist they are the only source of truth in the world
- Usually they dont cover up their pedophiles
Meanwhile the church (any church)
- does not pay taxes
- always tries to be the one and only
- (officially acknowledged by the Pope) covered up pedophiles for decades.
So I dont mind speaking about Harry Potter book series. Its author is a best-selling preacher of the fantasy world, she earns superstellar money, pays superstellar taxes. She does not F kids, and does not try to MAKE everybody in the world read her book. You want it - you read it. No - pff, fine.
I dont mind speaking about Superbowl: i guess around 90% of the WORLD does not even care about American Football :)) Superbowl is an 'world cup' ONLY in the US. ONLY. Nobody else cares - Europe, Asia, whoever else - Superbowl does not exist there as a sports idol. And superbowl sells ads, pays taxes, does not F kids, does not try to MAKE everybody a coach sees play football :)))
And so on, and so forth. Religion is always a business. While personal spirituality is always something I dont really care about: anyone has the right to believe in anything. But once it becomes a tool of power, influence - it's called 'religion'. And it's a huge business :)
So let's make all the religions pay taxes like,... emm.. say, shrinks. Shrinks talk to people who feel bad. People confess to them. Shrinks explain them how to behave and what to do to feel better - and they ALWAYS offer legal (e.g. non-criminal) ways. So - in my views - no difference from a priest. But shrinks PAY TAXES. So let's tax the church, call it just a business, erase 'in God we trust' from our money (because even putting it there is another powergrab by the church, and it happened only recently). And voi-la
Hope you don't mind me asking; Are you a Christian?
If you think no feathers are ruffled by talking about movies then you have never been to a movie geeks forum.
Agreed. I’m an atheist and it’s basically the last thing I ever want to talk about. My family is pretty religious, but we get along famously and have nothing but love for each other. We agreed a long long time ago that it’s not worth arguing over.
I have debates like this all the time. They typically take place in my head while I'm in the shower.
You are only in trouble if you hear clapping :) I also debate in showers.
Christians are well adjusted to conversing with imaginary-friends.
Man, your shower debates are lame. I occasionally have good ones. I have trained well in the art of fantasy-debate.
Do you win?
@@Cool-Vest lol, are you part of a league?
Was recommended this video randomly, and I already love the vibe here.
Dude sets off ALL my liar alarms at once.
It's kind of like when you hear a preacher say "The story is told of...". You know right then that he's about to pull some idiocy straight out of his ass.
Can't really blame him if he's been suckered (or suckered himself) into believing as factually accurate a book that features talking serpents and donkeys, and a verbatim account of a man conversing with God in the presence of 3 guys, all of whom were asleep.
Of course he did. He's a Christian Fundamentalist.
@@triplem9805 ...and pdf file atheists claiming that men can give birth?
According to atheist religion, What is wrong about incest?
Should we ask mad pedolahunty? richard dorkins? Maybe ask commie harris?
This man literally drew the God of the gaps fallacy and said, “CHECKMATE ATHEISM” lol
the fact that of the 2 minutes 1'40'' was the little story of how he was treated by these "1000 atheists" and 20 seconds was a fucking drawing alone, makes the whole prologue crumble because he wouldn't have really needed 2min (if you take out the story, that hadn't happen yet) if you were living it, but 30 seconds at most
It wasn't even in the gaps. It was in the known knowledge.
@@brokenrecord3523 if you don't know things and God things then you don't God because know things God"
@@hika_ariel 😳 I concede
If this god is within and just part of everything a human mind can know, then it is not an almighty god, but a human invention.
I like how in these stories that "TOTALLY HAPPENED", they NEVER mention specific names of places or dates & times. That's not sus at all!
like... when pdf file atheists claim that men can give birth and nowhere in history til now has this been true?
"God could exist and you just don't know it. Therefore, God does exist."
This guy's entire argument in two sentences.
As a pastafarian, in that unknown dimension is actually the flying spaghetti monster, may his noodly appendages touch us all, ramen.
Rrrrrr matey.
Ramen
Ramen!
Ohhhh so that's what that character from Run is. Also I love that y'all say ramen, that's hilarious
@@Lycanite whaaaaahaaaaahaaaaaa
He definitely puts an end to the conversation, but only by being so profoundly ignorant that it becomes clear having a conversation with him would serve less purpose than having a conversation with a nearby table lamp.
The table lamp would probably have better arguments.
I agree with Carlos here. If you're at the point of talking to a lamp, I'm positive it would have profound things to say.
Table lamp could enlighten me, guaranteed.
This interaction with the Cambridge Atheist Society definitely happened. His description of crazed atheists frothing at the mouth is a well known behavioural trait.
Correction: Atheistic Society.
@@joxer 🤣 Yes, because as we all know, atheists are prone to using the most _unnecessary and flowery_ adjectival forms of words, when a simple and plain form of the adjective already exists. Much like the _complicated and unnatural_ reasoning that atheists use when debating theists. _Wait! No. I might have that backwards!_
his big defeater was basically just 'can't you say 'idk' and leave it at that ☹'
I literally had a guy at work one time pull this same 'argument' out on me. I had quite the chuckle when I asked him "couldn't all the greek gods be there too?". He erased it and essentially said "only the fool will say there is no god". Can't win with indoctrinated people that don't have critical thinking skills and bravery to question what they know.
Fucking based 😂😂😂😂😂💜
"I only believe in one less god than you do" - Ricky Gervais
Those who lack the courage to challenge what they believe will never advance.
Many years ago, when automobiles were in their infancy, the 'popular' belief was that humans could not survive travelling faster than 40mph.
Medical science has advanced ONLY because SOME people had the courage to challenge 'popular' beliefs.
(Allegedly) 'god' gave humans a brain capable of great intelligence.
Surely it's an insult to 'god' if one refuses to use that brain to investigate, challenge and, thus, clear away falsehoods.
yes, all the greek gods are demonic creatures that Jesus himself sent to hell. Yes the Greek "gods" were real, but they ate not good. Only God is good.
"only the fool will say there is no god"
Only a fool would seek out a god at the very alters where millions of children have been brutalizes & raped
Or maybe your god was to busy masturbating to raise a finger and STOP THE RAPING & DEHUMANIZING of its "greatest creation"
I generally only hear one of 2 comments:
"Oh, look at the time, gotta go"
" Not listening, not listening, la, la, la, la, not listening"
I went to an atheist convention once, just because I wanted to see what happens when people gather to talk about one thing they don't believe. It turns out, it was the most informative conference I have ever been to. We had astrophysicists, theology PHDs, evolutionary biologists, neuropsychologists, and Richard Dawkins present. It was amazing what we could explore once we stopped believing in one little thing.
And there were the secret sessions where the Evil Atheists would plot how to bring the churches into disrepute and destroy everything that was Pure, Good, and Decent. Those were the best part.
@@robinharwood5044 i assure you, if you're brave enough to take a look, you'll see pure, good and decent exist without god
@@seanbirtwistle649 Naaah! Once we Evil Atheists have taken over, all that stuff will be gone! Satan will triumph! [Insert supervillain laugh here.]
@@robinharwood5044 bleh, when you miss read the mood of a room. Lol
@@seanbirtwistle649 We’ve all done it.
"We don't understand this. It must be gods". Has been a convincing argument since the dawn of humankind
That's what the Mayans thought of the volcanoes and hurricanes
Pat Robertson said god caused a hurricane for America being too gay.
@@WendelltheSongwriter Yes, as well as the thunder and lightning. They thought a god was involved.
I think it's known as "The God of Gaps".
Or, to extrapolate (in I think Arthur C Clark's words), any sufficiently advanced technology can be construed as magic.
He reduced the argument of "god of gaps" to "god of gap".
I’ve seen this clip before. It hasn’t improved with age. This guy is totally recalling a fantasy he conjured while taking a cold shower. Good response. Cheers, Emma!
I'm a little embarrassed for the crowd that they cheered. But believing fantasies I suppose is something they're slightly more prone to do, aren't they? The preacher should just run for office. He'd get a lot of Republican votes no doubt.
@@neil2444 If you enjoy that cheering crowd then you should watch some Dr Zakir Naik. He says that most ridiculous stuff and people cheer like he didn't just say the dumbest crap ever.
He actually talks like he's actively taking a cold shower.
He's not recalling it, he's plagiarizing it. I've seen the identical story recited by another preacher, including the white board, the circle, the university, everything.
@@jasondulin7376 😂 nice!
EMMA!! Do not tell the theists that we are vulnerable to stabbing!! Our perceived physical invulnerability is the only thing that's kept them at bay all these years!
Srsly wtf
This is a valid point.
Here’s probably what happened: He was on some university’s campus spouting off on a soapbox and he was then challenged by some of the atheists who were walking by and then he tried this garbage argument thinking he would win some debate prize. And all he did was make some of the Christian students applaud him. He then walked away all proud of himself when the atheist students had baffled looks on their faces because they couldn’t comprehend how anyone would think that this was an intelligent argument.
Nah he wishes he had Ray Comfort's cajones to publicly get owned by a 18yr old stoner but these narcissist avoid exposing their ignorance. These conversion stories only exists in the echo chamber of evangelical charismatic stages and you can see the evolution, pardon the pun, of it by creationists from random strangers in forced close quarters like an air plane or doctor office waiting room to some unnamed liberal university where a angry atheist is converted by the humble prosperity gospel preacher
This is a REALLY good guess as to the most likely scenario.
And we could probably add the part where he asked for the clapping kids to come to a worship service. (And bring money.)
Even that's pretty charitable. I have little doubt that this is a situation he fantasised about and simply decided would absolutely have happened if given the chance. He then removed all the modal verbs, changing 'I would have said' to 'I said', et voila.
Ty from an antitheist from France. Your words are clears and strong.
'You are one step closer to knowing my bigfoot!' is a taunt I must now use.
And that can be meant in two ways as in Bigfoot and Big Foot (as in kicking).
This needs to be a shirt
The probability of finding a pink unicorn on Mars is way higher than finding an atheist anywhere who is not pdf file
You may not believe in Bigfoot, but Bigfoot believes in you.
@@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppable you are disgusting. Probably a projection, though, on your part.
I always love how those preachers revert the burden of proof.
As soon as you claim something to exist, it is not my responsibility to disprove your claim, but rather yours to verify its legitimacy.
The alt right does that as well.
What a burden, though... Lol
same can be said for atheist, they claim God does not exist but cannot prove that.. atheist often hide behind science like science is something we all know and is unaltered from the beginning of time. people discover and people theories are often wrong. that hasn’t changed. I am a Christian and I believe in God for my own reasons.
Actually this is not so clear if this is the case.
If you make a positive claim about ANYTHING you have burden of proof.
So: "god does not exist" has just as much burden of proof as "god does exist".
If I were to say that apples dont exist, surely you would press me on this and ask me to prove it?
Agnosticism is the withholding of judgement on both premises and so they dont have burden of proof, although this is not clear either as some suggest even agnosticism has burden of proof at some point:
If you keep giving me proof and evidence and every time i say: "nah im not convinced", then surely at some point you're gonna be like: listen ive given you 100s of proofs yet nothing convinces you, what is your 'proof' or evidence that is more convincing then mine?
Yeah man, such a burden, it almost feels like carrying a cross.
Hi Emma. I saw this a few months ago being torn down by someone (I can't remember who) and I can almost guarantee that there is no such thing as an "Atheistic Society", here in Australia or anywhere else in the entire world. Maybe in another dimension, but not here in this one!
the circle thing came from a video made some time ago... it's that old its in black and white......in the video he claims it's his thoughts and ideas when he has clearly stole the idea
He is using the language "Atheistic Society" intentionally to propagate the idea that Atheism is a faith based Religion. "Atheistic" sounds more religious and preachy then Atheist.
@@paulrichards6894 It's an old idea that has done the rounds before, basically a rehash of the God of the gaps fallacy. These preachers recycle each others content enthusiastically, it is easier than actually coming up with a new argument.
@@Fedaykin24 i mean using the circle to illustrate...if you watch the whole of the video he claims to have come up with the circle idea himself but he is in fact lying
@@Fedaykin24 "it is easier than actually coming up with a new argument" - There are no new arguments to come up with, they've already exhausted them over the past 2000 years.
Hilariously, if he's arguing that "you don't know that there isn't a dimension where god does exist." But that kind of suggests that our current dimension does not contain god.
He literally gave an argument where god doesn't exist.
This whole story has some real "and then everyone in the Starbucks clapped" energy about it.
Tears streaming… down their faces…
@@dracoargentum9783And someone came up to him and said, "sir"......
The most realistic part of this guy's story is "I drove to Cambridge" and I still want to see traffic camera footage to be sure
Love how he's talking fast and in halting broken sentences JUST like my 3 year old niece when she's making up a story... also love that the people on stage watching him are making the same faces adults make when small children tell you their stories, one looks zoned out the other looks like he's got that hummoring smile
People who are insecure tend to shout very loudly. Have you ever seen a professor who shouts very loudly when he or she explains his or her findings that are supported by evidence? Exactly the same in debates. The theist generally shouts and the atheist does so in a moderate tone.
That’s how Christian preachers talk. It’s actually a tactic they are taught to build up tension and payoff so that their story resonates with you and makes you feel like something is moving you. It’s gross.
If they'd truly believe, they wouldn't need to bother with trying to defeat anyone.
Kid in my junior school once told me how he was attacked by seven other kids... and one of them was in high school. Well, he did all sorts of karate moves on these attackers, taught to him by his dad,, (who was in the SAS). By the end, they were all on the floor and he walked off victorious. Amazing story. He also had a girlfriend, in Ireland, who I never met.
What, not Canada?
@@lidbass The gf in Canada was too clingy.
@@lidbassCanada is the UK's Ireland, when it comes to imaginary girlfriends.
@@glenhughes8013 Yup, I knew. It's just that Canada is more common on YT. Sorry, it was a rather poor joke. Still; helped the algorithm, I guess...
Sounds like a dude who went to my college. But instead of complete fabrications, he would re-tell other guy's cool stories but replace himself as the main character as if he did the cool thing himself.
Some men fantasise about taking out a group of armed ninjas invading their workplace and some men fantasise about defeating obnoxious atheists in huge society meetings in universities.
And the idolized narcissism of this world has some men waiting us all vaxxed like Jonestown.
The Branch Covidians 😂
At least the first one is more feasible.
As soon as he said 20 minutes/15 minutes I knew he was lying.
As soon as he said he was invited to a debate I knew he was lying. No one's going to invite him to debate.
simplest way i defeat a preacher/pastor: “why’d god give me childhood cancer twice then?”…..
So you could evaluate your mortality and fragility, still live, and have time to come to a knowledge of truth that leads to repentance. You are beautifully and wonderfully made by the Lord, and faith in his death, burial, and resurrection for the payments of your sin will grant you everlasting life. It's so easy It's embarrassing not to at least consider it, especially if Christians think your eternal life depends on it. Seek Jesus seriously and YOU tell me what happens afterward...
@@cpenrose100 1. who’s to say i never considered it? and 2. i can’t have faith in someone who put me through all that. thanks tho.
@@cpenrose100 "I beat you to an inch of your life several times so you could be a better person!" - someone who is going to jail.
God being abusive so you can learn a lesson is pitiful, especially since he set up the entirety of the circumstances around it in the first place. Are you telling me God couldn't give those lessons without giving someone cancer...twice?
He for sure made this story up, unless the only university in the city of Cambridge Australia is hosting debates and events of 1 k people with no promotion or record of the event happening.
He's in the U.K.
The City of Cambridge being a small suburb of Perth, WA.
Hmm, I may have to watch out for him, then...?@@Beelzybud
There are 30 cities and towns named Cambridge in the world.
@chrisgraham2904 Of which I believe two have Universities.
We once went into the woods. There were little furry creatures that wanted to eat my friends. I told them not to. I'm a golden robot, so they thought I was their god. They did not eat us.
This is as true a story as that one.
Yours
C-3PO.
Those teddy bears also tried to cook and eat me.
Even though I’m made of metal
It’s curious that you neglected to mention that to them in your godhood.
I was freed later and zapped a few of them.
It was good.
R2-D2
Love it! 😂
I was agnostic, but while watching this preacher's video, I became an atheist! 😊
With all the death and killings and grape I'm beginning to think this God ain't good guys
@@falconeshield don't forget god also committed genocide and wants us to stone people
😂😂😂😂
Nice, welcome :D
@@falconeshield it literally says in the 'good' book that _it_ created evil.
I think this preacher has never seen a university
"the lead atheist" 🤣🤣🤣 what do I have to do to get there???
I'm harmony atheist.
For real...I still haven't leveled up enough to get paychecks from the Illuminati 😏
You just have to send in a monthly fee to catholic church lol
The final boss of atheism
You first have to get to 'Inner Circle' atheist and you can then be selected as lead atheist from there.
Clearly he visited Never Happened University. The president of the Atheistic Club is well-known atheist Frank Strawman.
Where the 800 or 1000 students in attendance were all cardboard cutouts.
Three minutes in and I'm getting very strong 'Shit that never happened for $400' vibes from this guy already.
"Yeah but what if?" does not win this debate. He was told to prove that a god does exist. Not to shrug and say "could be, maybe, you don't know". And beyond that, agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive. Agnostic is a descriptor, not a solid position. You can be an agnostic atheist, hell, you can be an agnostic believer, but you aren't just "an agnostic." You can be a strong person; you can't be a strong. You can have a fun time; you can't have a fun. You can be an agnostic atheist; you can't be an agnostic.
"We are as vulnerable to stabbings as anybody else." HAS ME DYINGGG 😂😂😂
I was hoping she would go for Rock/Paper/Scissors or something. I think atheists can be defeated at Rock/Paper/Scissors sometimes.
@@tely5 as long as you don't try that against Patrick Jane. ;-)
This is like watching someone say their shower thoughts out loud on stage to people.
The worst part is that there are people who believe it. As soon as they see a video about Christianity 'winning,' all common sense goes out of the window. They just see a man yelling at them, but it's good because he's owning the atheists, and that must mean he's right. No need to actually understand or, heaven forbid, deconstruct what he said.
If there were 800-1000 people present, there would be some video evidence to support this claim, or do we just take this on faith?
In Germany we call this "Geschichten aus dem Paulana Garten"
Translated: Storys from the Paulana Garden
Paulana is a Beer so it is a Beer Garden and the ad from Paulana beer was a Group of people who tell unbelievable storys
As my dad taught me. When someone sends a postcard back from heaven he will believe in it.
Show my god's photo ID and I might believe that he exists.
I will insist on a FaceTime call.
There is no reason to "defeat non-believers".
Just leave us alone.
To be fair…you know he wasn’t taking to a room of non believers. So he was leaving you alone, you and this Emma are the ones who clicked on him and his video😊
He literally made a video telling how to defeat them, are you blind? 🤦♀️@@CptnGs
@@CptnGsEmma is a Thorn on religious stupidity.
Well, they invited him to talk.
@@CptnGs He claimed he defeated the whole aethiest community 😂
His ultimate sure-to-defeat-any-atheist argument is literally just "god of the gaps". I don't recall it destroying atheism the first time it was articulated.
These guys are all pseudo intellectuals who Iie about their knowledge and experiences anyhow. His kind is the main reason I got out of christianity.
this Guy has made this whole story up, the shouting loud delivery of a conman
With the sound off, this becomes the worst game of Pictionary ever.
Any good Atheist would recognise this as a "God of the Gaps" argument and debunk this in a second.
@@sammur1977
It is “god of the gaps.” The preacher literally drew an arrow to the “unknown” section of the circle (the gap) and said that’s where god is.
But I am curious about your comment that we have ways to find truth other than scientifically. Like what? I use Aron Ra’s definition for truth: that which comports with reality. I would think the only way to know what is real is through science.
You may have a different definition for truth. To which I would quote: “But what is truth? Is truth unchanging law? We both have truths. Aren’t mine the same as yours?” _Jesus Christ Superstar_
@@sammur1977 Rather presumptuous of you to speak for atheists.
@sammur1977
Only you can prevent forest fires by not building strawmen.
@@sammur1977 The burden of proof lies with the person making a claim that something exists. It stands to reason they have verifiable proof, or they wouldn't make the claim at all. If they don't know what credible evidence is then they should not be making a claim in the first place and certainly should not ever sit on a jury. Theists like to deflect away from providing any proof by asking non-believers what evidence they're looking for. It's a sure sign they don't have any.
@@sammur1977 It is God of the gaps fallacy. You're even doing it yourself and yet you don't realize. When you say "since science will never know such a question" you are creating the gap and filling it with God.
Where you say "We do however have other ways of knowing truth not just scientifically." You are saying "We don't know the answer to this, so we can never know the answer to this, so the only possible explanation is God magic."
You literally did the God of the gaps fallacy TWICE in a row and didn't even know you were doing it. That's the effect dogma has.
And then you just casually deflect the burden of proof by asking us what evidence we would like... My guy, you're the one making the claim that a God exists. If you don't know how to prove it, that's not our problem.
A claim without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. You claim a God exists and provide no evidence, so I have no obligation to tell you why I reject your claim.
"Spitting and frothing at his mouth", "people who believe in God are stupid", "boos and hisses". I'm beginning to think that he might have conflated Cambridge University with Cambridge Kindergarten. Edit: actually no strike that. Kids wouldn't even act this immature.
Clearly you've never been to Florida.
Of the two universities in Cambrige, UK, one does not have an Atheist Society and the other (Cambridge University Atheist and Agnostic Society) has said "No, we did not invite him and this event did not happen. We've never heard of him." So unless Glyn Barrett was referring to Cambridge, Massachusetts, or some other Cambridge that he drove to from his base in Manchester, UK (quite a considerable distance in anyone's book!), he's lying through his teeth (like it was in any doubt 🙄)
Does either university even have an auditorium large enough for 800-1000 seats?
@@SylfaThe largest hall is Lady Mitchell Hall which accommodates 500 students.
oh come on, you cannot disprove that this argument didn't happen in another dimension.
Can attest that there's no University in Cambridge, New Zealand - let alone there being an "Atheistic Society" at it.
And IF he went to one of the two universities in Cambridge, MA, he would have ended up at either Harvard or MIT.
Two places that would have the kind of people who wouldn't have an Atheist Society made up of such numbskulls as to make such a boneheaded argument in regards to the nonexistence of God.
He didn't even win his side in this "debate". Didnt prove that God existed. He just posited that it is possible that God exists.
There's no lecture *theatres* in Cambridge that seat 1000 people. Source: know the university departments very well. The whole point of Cambridge is to teach in small groups! Might be 1000 people in the Arts Theatre, or maybe the University has an entertainment venue that seats 1000. But no lecture 'hall'.
It is obvious before and targetted at an audience that hardly know Cambridge evel excists. It is also one of those 1000 and 1 "success" stories that has even less credibility than the fairytales of Sherahezade.
Ah but what about the knowledge of the lecture theatres you don’t know.
You my friend are a lecture theatre agnostic, and one step closer to his Jesus
Check mate atheist
@@kamion53 Scheherazade was at least entertaining. This Glynn gimboid is just shouty and arrogant.
He's implying the debate happened at Harvard University in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
@@MaternalUnit Sucks for Harvard students if they have 1000 seat lecture theatres.
"We are as vulnerable to stabbing as anyone else."
Emma, did you have to TELL them? We just about had them convinced we were immune to that kind of thing. 😂
Atheists, retreat to our secret meeting place! We have to regroup.
This is a classical example of 'preaching for one's own parish'.
"Thou shalt not bear false witness...unless you're a Christian, of course." - The Ninth Commandment
0:48 Damn it, Emma. The main reason I became an atheist was to become invulnerable to stabbings! To find out I was mistaken in the first few seconds of your video was quite upsetting!
You should've picked Mormonism, fool. Stab-proof magic underwear!
If you're about to be stabbed, call on Bigfoot for help.
Jesus wasn't invulverable to stabbings, either, nailngs, too. Such a holey man😂
@@wabbajack2 sadly, the underwear doesn't protect the most vital parts of my body, does it? :-s
@@irrelevant_noobHave you tried?
As an agnostic, I find the idea I'm close to a Christian to be a joke, and nothing but a joke. I view organised religion as a means of social control, and an inherently misogynistic one, in their case. My view is that its impossible to know either way, and as a woman, if i were to join any religion, why would i choose one that explicitly hates women and thinks we should be silent slaves?
Conceivably it's possible to know, but only if the deity of the hour chooses to make its existence known.
@rhiwright. Obviously there are different ways of defining or labelling your beliefs but a lot of atheists including myself would say that you are also an atheist. It goes like this...theist means having a belief in the existence of god or god's. Atheist means not having a belief that god or gods exist. Gnostic means having the knowledge of...in this case gods existence and agnostic means lacking the knowledge that gods exist so I am an agnostic atheist, I don't believe that god or gods exist but I lack the actual knowledge that this is the case. So I think we are both what I would call agnostic atheists, both lack the belief that gods are real but don't know for sure. Hope that helps but in the end don't worry if my way of labelling isn't one you would care to use. Each to their own and obviously his argument is absolutely bollox.
@@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279 The agnosticism part is bootless anyway. Technically, agnosticism about everything is required by the classical epistemological dictum that absolute knowledge about anything is impossible, with the exception of one's knowledge of one's own internal psychological/emotional/perceptual state. I suspect most people who label themselves as agnostics are motivated mainly by the desire to avoid social controversy. If one declares that one does not know whether a god exists, then one is inescapably declaring that one does not have a positive belief in a god. This stance fulfills the definition of atheism used by most current atheists. No perceived sufficient evidence to support a belief in a god entails no belief in a god. A positive claim that no god does or can exist does not enter the picture because of the classic epistemological rejection of absolute, positive knowledge about any aspect of the external world.
@@pythondrink god could just turn up and introduce themselves then we would know they exist but God never does except apparently in stories or to loonies. Otherwise the general God concept is unfalsifiable but specific god's with properties such as the Christian god with the tri-omni abilities and being all loving and perfectly just is falsifiable because it's properties are contradictory.
I think human intelligence is limited. There's things it's impossible to even think up the right questions to even begin to find out. The hard question of consciousness is one example, whether or not there's any such thing as divine being(s) is another
Also, I have the right to define my own thought processes as I see fit. They are mine. Stow your big words and judgemental attitude, I'm not interested, any more than I would be in equivalent words from a theist. Stop. Evangelising. Your. Views. It's rude and disrespectful.
SMH. You don't see me trying to argue with your self-definition.
A very good video, Emma.
How to defeat a preacher in 2 minutes? Ask them to hold a bible and swear that a story they have just told you is completely true. I doubt that Glyn Barrett would do so on this occasion.
He is a pastor of !Audacious Church (sic) in the UK. So he is referring to Cambridge in England.
The Cambridge University Atheist and Agnostic Society (aka the Cambridge University Atheist, Secularist, and Humanist Society) has a statement on facebook from 16 May 2016: _“We've recently been getting lots of questions about a GOD TV video in which Pastor Glyn Barrett describes a debate with a university "Atheistic society" after driving to Cambridge. We don't know anything about this debate… To the best of our knowledge, it never occurred. If we misunderstood the situation, we'd be happy for Pastor Glyn to set us straight. So far, he hasn't.”_
The BkupAcct youtube channel has a statement (allegedly) from Glyn attempting to cover his lie: _“It was not my intention for it to come across that the debate forum was Cambridge. As you know, sometimes in public speaking, when you are in a rush, you don't always articulate things in the best manner."_ Just before he deleted his video.
The channel !Audacious Lies has a video showing that Glyn didn’t even make up his own lie. His entire script appears to come from a similar sermon by Mark Finley.
I think we can reasonably conclude that Glyn’s job includes bearing false witness.
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@@monodescarado Thank you
Lmao true asf
I suspect he wouldn't hesitate for a moment.
Ha. Wait, a preacher lied? Why, I never.
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