i had to reevaluate my entire life with a new perspective. the perspective that my parents in reality hated me and wanted to undermine my entire life from an early age. constantly undermining me and sabotaging my life. I had to look at all the lies. It was like coming out of the darkness and seeing what was really going on. It was like I was walking and stumbling in the dark my whole life.
I’ve gone through this too and it’s such a deep aching pain. Having a narcissistic parent for me caused me a life of deep sadness that I cannot explain.
My brother and I were taken from my mother aftermath dad deserted us i was 18 most old and put in a cottage setting in cali. In the 60's. Then foster care after that..my Father really loved us but the mom only saw $$$. She had a sister in a mental hospital. Allready when they did maybe the courts should have taken that into accord. It was the foster mother that claimed us but used us for her narcissistic supply... it has been a real heartbreaking, emotional, critical judgemental, alianated, always feelin left out, and also being left out, lonely alone most of the times really maddening and hurtful when the bitch wooed my son into her clutches and basically stole him from me and allianated him almost completely from frigging life and exsistance.. my only child my dear sweet little man..she's got his head so twisted and sideways...when she dies I don't know if I will ever be able to get him the help he needs to be well again either. I'm 55 now too.. my son is in his 20s...my Father died when I was pregnant with my son...he was awsome.. to this day I dont know how he managed but he did and he did it well...her...she's always been a darkness in my sunshine and a darkness in her ways towards me...always plotting failure..never "really helping " feel really and truly that my life has been nothing but completely screwey and ive been definitely set up.... Mental illness is no joke especially paired with extreme narcisistic sociopaths toteing a multiple personality disorders.. I feel really RIPPED OFF... MY GOSH... just a little baby girl I was...in a cottage and foster care...LADY I ALLREADY HAD ISSUES OR WAS GONNA,...PAHLEEEESE! THEN not only that you sentenced me to a life of your narcistic abuse...., Really... !! I had parents you took me from them....you made my life shittier again! And you never stopped.. I have people who love me...thank god... but you will go to hell if you don't figure your crappy shifty ways out and see a priest while your at it too... You of all people in the world should never have been able to take someone else's children and use them as nothing but a but wipe and slavery....how dare these people.,.! It is debauchery and it is just all together a real crime... do not allow this game playing crap in your home nip it in the bud....these cowards need to be put up on the stand!!! Or hanged...
My son's 17, and I hope one day he'll realize the truth about his mom. Right now, he's 100% for her. Poor ole Pops is left out in the cold. Praying for a revelation for him.
I've come to terms with who my mother is and I left as soon as i turned 16. It wasn't easy because she did everything she could to sabotage me. I've done better than I ever expected I could and that is because I left early and surrounded myself with people who were positive and encouraging. Other people who didn't know me well would tell me that I had the potential to do well career wise. I used to tell these people that I wasn’t as intelligent as they thought and though I was grateful for their positive words, it wasn't going to happen for me. But hearing it enough encouraged me to try and now I have built up good grades that enabled me to work in dentistry and I'll be going to university next year to further my dental career. I never thought that was possible before. My brother on the other hand, the last time I spoke to him, I got the sense that he had completely accepted defeat. He was only 17 years old and he had given up on the idea of achieving anything. I recall asking my brother about his ambitions and career choices. My mother was on the video call too and she answered for him, so I told her to be quiet and let him speak for himself. He was very pessimistic and said he doesn't have good grades so his options were limited. So I told him he should go back to college and study and then apply for university. I said to him that it is never too late to turn things around and get those grades and i told him that that was what I was doing at the time, so it can be done. OMG this was the worst thing I could have ever said to him, because my mother jumped down my throat before I could finish my sentence, telling me not to fill his head with nonsense. I think she thinks I'm a bad influence on him, because he used to look up to me (I don't know why) so she's quite happy that I cut contact with him. My mother is the type of person that her and my brother come as a package, so if I want to have contact with him then she has to be there too. And he lets her, he won't say no to her and it is so frustrating. My children have never met their uncle and she doesn't care.
I cry for the child that I was with each unraveling of what was really happening during those instances that upset me enough to stay with me. Because we never questioned our parent, we trusted completely. My narc mother still triangulates my sibs and I, ( or tries to ) and tries to create drama but I refuse to indulge her on every level, with a nonchalant attitude to make sure I don't feed her need for supply, and this helps my healing.
Thank you for this video, my narc mother triangulated my relationship with all my siblings, she ruined my life, my brother was her golden child, he turned into a narcissist. after my father died, I didn’t talk to her for 7 years, she was angry again at me over something she made up in her head, my brother stopped talking to her until he died, she wasn’t even allowed to attend his funeral, today she’s alone, she’s calmed down a bit but I still hear her trying to manipulate me when I talk to her, so I keep her at arms length, I forgiven her for myself but I’m still angry at myself for allowing my sons being in her life, she treated them like she did with me and my siblings, narcissistic parents are very damaging and as a adult you tend to attract narc partners. I have learned lots about narcissism and done a lot of self reflection and healing, good luck to all of you that are figuring out the truth now.
@Scapegoat mine died. I was 35. I'm 40 now. Later this year. I'm the one who had to take care of her. I'm also the last person who should have been doing it.
It may be true that there is a god or that what goes around , comes around like karma . It is what I thought when both my parents died eventually Step mother at 60 from cancer and father at 70 from smoking and drinking related illness
Me too. Pancreatic Cancer. She was a deadly bitch to me, and it has taken 60 years for me to find out I was totally f**ked. But thank goodness for my current counselor who has saved me!
You would have to be a narcissist to understand one. I only learned at 51 about what exacltly a narcissist is and I've had many in my life who have done serious damage.
This video is a truth bomb. I appreciate you outlining the characteristics of parental narcissistic abuse. I realized about 7-8 years ago in a therapy session that my father was an overt narcissist while sharing about a narcissistic neighbor. I recently came to the realization that my mother, who passed away 11 years ago, was a covert/vulnerable narcissist. After my mother’s passing from terminal cancer and expecting to go into deep grief, I experienced a sense of relief on several levels. Once I realized that she was a covert narcissist, it all made sense. I was supposed to give her grandchildren. She also seemed jealous of my accomplishments and was threatened by my friendships. As far as my father is concerned, he has a tendency to project his fear and paranoia onto me to sow seeds of self-doubt while at the same time claiming to be so proud of me through excessive flattery and love bombing.
THIS IS SO TRUE. Thank you for sharing your story. It helps others like me to realize there are so many of us that have gone through this and overcome and that I’m not alone...even though I feel like it.
Yes my dad is a narcissist a covert narcissist he does not care who he hurts all he does is lie & talk shit behind my back . He said I owe him and he does not wanting me having a life of my own or thinking for myself .
I had the narcissistic step parent, and the dynamic he created was to cause me to be afraid of moving out on my own by constantly talking about how hard it is, while also reminding me of the age at which I would be thrown out. I don't think my mother is a narcissist but every time I had an opportunity to move and be on my own she would sabotage it, she cost me a job making $4,000 a month and she cost me a project that I created which people invested money into. Once everything in my life was damaged to the point where I can't do anything, that's when she tells me that I can now go and make it on my own. I feel so livid and angry all the time and I'm tired and exhausted of feeling angry.
Ardent, narc parents are like this. They first take, strip off and use you. Once they achieved the full destruction, they will put you "free" to see you struggle in life, what is huge supply for their dark, empty, bottomless dark hole something what the narc is. And so much more destruction. They are a destruction machine...non human
This is the 2nd of your videos I’ve watched this morning. I’ve had to pause to take a breather...... My father told me a few years ago “You are the biggest underachiever I’ve ever met.” This 15 years after leaving Canada and my parents behind. I’ve travelled Europe, worked in 6 countries, and now work as an airline pilot. Fabulous wife and daughter. And yet I still feel like a loser, struggle to make friends, undervalue myself, have NO self-esteem........ I wish I’d had direction 25 years ago. I think the “ secret”part of my personality irreparable...
John, it’s cold comfort; but he says that because he feels so small and worthless when he thinks about everything you have and how much you have achieved. 🤍
Wow , That summed up the parents I had and although my grandparents never seemed to be like that with me My parents both claimed that I should be so lucky as to not have grown up with them. There were a few rare times where I can recall they could be like that if I wasnt being as they wanted ( ie behaving) but generally it was my parents. They are both dead now but I still remember it all. I learned to isolate my self from them and more so when I left home. My brother and sister both remained at home well into their early to late 30 ´s respectfully till they left . The only thing I learned how to deal with a narcissist is to cut them off. Dont wrestle a pig ; you both get dirty but the pig doesnt care . Defending yourself by giving a taste of thier own medicine doesnt work because you go down to their level and it makes you out to be the bad guy while they are the poor innocent victim. And they take full advantage of it
My Dad, is a classic narc. I am almost 70. I went no contact 11 years ago and also eliminated everyone who had any contact or was a pipeline of information to this man. I had been undermined, attacked in every way imaginable. People, going no contact is the best thing that you will EVER do for yourself. No matter how successful or wealthy I became I was still a failure. And the lies this jerk off perpetuated were awful. But I am strong and self confident so I finally found the will to say to hell with dear old daddy and mr enabling mommy dearest. Wake up, trust in the Lord and believe in yourself. These are awful people, the day Geoffrey Chaney dies will be a day of joy for me. He has altzheimers and is physically failing...and the worse he gets. I have forgiven him, but the forgiveness is for ME so I carry less hatred for the man. Good luck to you all. Greg Chaney in coastal NC
6:48 This section describes my experience almost to a T. I’m a senior adult married many years. My deceased mother was an overt narcissist and my dad (who is in a facility for Alzheimer’s) is a covert narcissist. My mother wanted me to be her and live her life. Being or expressing any other opinion or desire was met with extreme reaction. She had to be the center of all attention. Example: one Christmas we flew from the west coast to the east coast to visit both our families. We were to stay at my family’s home for the visit. The day my husband and I spent visiting with his family ended with returning to my family’s house to a raging mother angry that we spent all day with my in-laws and ended with my mother throwing the gifts we brought out on the snow covered front lawn and kicking us out of the house. My dad said not a word the whole time. An example of my dad’s covert narcissism toward me was always asking me at the start of any phone conversation “did you just wake up?” no matter what time of the day it was. The insinuation being I do nothing all day even though my husband and I have been running our own business for many years. Dads put downs are subtle passive aggressive like that and attempts to induce guilt. He always gave with strings attached. The one thing that really stands out about my parents is realizing they never attempted to show any interest in who I was and what interested me or what my dreams and goals were for my life. Unfortunately it took me years to realize how it all affected me. I’m glad narcissism knowledge is in the mainstream now. In the ‘80’s Melody Beattie’s Codependent No More was the catalyst to my understanding of how I was affected. Your videos are right on point.
@Keith cardinale i had to respond to your comment on how your dad answered the phone no matter what he had to do an insult. oh my gosh. if my dad answered the phone to anyone besides me he just would answer it. hello . but if he knew it was me he would pick up the phone but not say a word. it was his way of establishing a position of power if he made me talk first.... talk a about a petty little thing " I can see his mind saying . she wont get her way im the one in power I chose not to talk first. that is how controlling and bizarre . but he used to say ' oh your sleeping in " when he knew I suffered terribly with insomnia as a young teen I went a long time gettng like 30 minutes of sleep here and there and I was horribly suffering l lost my friends my energy I was a zombie and all he could do is rub it in ' oh wow you are sleeping it" and I would be unable to say no dad I have been up since 1 am and its now 10 the next morning I was up for nine hours and slept a half hours. I still cant believe they allowed me to suffer like that and could care less. it was pure torture I forgot about all of that.
I got good news! 1 year since my plan of escape began and I did escape June 10 2020 - I spent 4 months still listening to Coaches such as Jesse C on the Chronicles. Now I’m moving again - moving on with my life and taking a leap to yet another State to begin the next stage of my life / Living except this time I am not running away I am running to a busy wonderful future ! Christine Williams here - A Person That Genuinely Cares
Thanks. 0:45...I was just thinking...I feel like I've been through a long painful journey now that my parents have died and the toxicity is over. I'm 55, Dad died back in the spring at 85, and Mom died a year before that. I just feel a sense of relief about the whole thing.
@@MrTimjm009 Thanks for the reply. I'll be on the lookout for that. I get what you're saying, but honestly, the way things worked out I don't know what I'd get angry about. ...other than long distance contact I'm not involved in the family any more! 😁👍
This is so sad to hear others experiences, any age, different generation's but years of this dreadful behaviour from the people who are suppose to love us and people we should love, once did love but eventually you realise wjats wrong and yet others don't recognise what's happening. It makes me really sad..
Problem is , it seems infectious , I fear my younger brother and sister are the same as my parents were . You can only keep these kinds of people away from you , dont let them infect you too
Thank You Jill, Perfect. My turning point was at 7 years old. My Grandpa got beaten nearly to death by my narcissistic mother, his daughter in law. She cornered us kids and gave her explanation of why he needed beat. I was the only child that disagreed. ( been paying for that disagreement for 49 years) Grandpa enlightened me, by telling me the next day, " Just changing one letter can change your life forever, You can be 'Bitter' or you can be 'Better'. " He was a very wise man and was never Bitter. That is why she beat him. Wanting his outlook on life. Jill, you are also very wise. Thank You. Your validation is gratefully appreciated. Thank you.
Wowzer - you just described my mom to a tee. She made sure nothing was said to the neighbors and put fear into us to not talk about anything to anybody - it’s none of their business.
Thanks again Jill. I am struggling with the anger. I know their actions are deliberate (in my situation) and that they know what they are doing, yet they call themselves Christian...its knowing what nobody else sees and knows and how alone you are in it that is such a terrible place to drag yourself out of. How did you deal with your anger? I can just be driving down the road and I will remember something they said and my mood will turn sour and angry cause I now know that they manipulated me with their "victimhood" stories and I felt sorry for them when I should have felt sorry for myself trying to survive a childhood with a monster that can't love anybody and should have never had children.
Krisluvsutube, same with me. I struggled with anger towards my covert narcissistic mother. I hate her. I agree that they are monsters and that they should never have children because they are so evil.
Same here . My parents are both dead now . Mother 8 years and father 3 . I still feel the anger. I try to keep busy and not dwell on it . Lately , with the pandemic and general disruption to work etc , I find that seems to have increased a bit and harder to do with the unwanted time on my hands.
Wow I went through the same thing! Step dad was bad, changed my mom to his ways and her a christian but turned hypocritical in teachings and him same ol same ol and not Christian. Left me all confused and I still am at times and don't go to church either.
After being abused by narcissist ex husband for 30 years I just realised that my own father is a narcissist. I have been watching video’s like this for almost a year now but it was because of stories my children told me about my parents that I realised that they are very abusive. I feel a little bit stupid but I really had no idea 💔 So now I have to figure out how to handle this shituation 😩
U nailed the last one with the “image”. My in-laws r so concerned with the image. That’s all they care about. I really don’t think they ever do anything that’s not image concerned. From academics to schools to athletics to appearances.
It’s important to also understand that acceptance or radical acceptance of who or what they are, does not mean engagement. Guaranteed that, if you start telling yourself that you accept what your parent is or if you start using the word acceptance with others, who are often enablers, you will have provided them the bullets to the gun that will shoot you. Because, at least in my experience, 100% of the people I know, either don’t know WTF NPD is and they don’t care to learn OR they may feel that things will work out just fine, as long as you eat your pride and hug it out OR they are abusers by proxy, who want to see you locked in a situation where you accept it and can’t get out, ensuring your downfall and they will act like it’s just whoopsies, when you do. I have come to accept that my mother likely has NPD, that it is fixed, that there’s nothing I can do about it, but I haven’t seen her in over 2 years, because I’m not about to open myself up to that nightmare. I already know that, when she has requested that I come to her house for something, it isn’t simply that she likely has onset dementia at this point and “forgets” that I’ve told her there’s a pandemic or that my car isn’t in good enough condition, it’s that, she has long become the type of person that needs buy one example of something she wants, to create a precedence for it to continue. In other words, if my car gets me to her house just once, in a nice summer day, there’s absolutely ZERO reason why I shouldn’t be driving to her house, on a daily basis, in a snowstorm, ensuring all of her needs are met. If I wrap my car around a tree, in that effort, oh well. At least it was for her.
Been watching that with my son's mother. He has worked hard to get a very high mark. He applied for medicine and had interviews, she came along and basically got him worked up during the journey. Both times. He failed the interviews. She tried to get him to do Commerce when his heart is set on Medicine. Currently, he is averaging HD doing Engineering and having another go to get into medicine. Again his mother has been discouraging him. Fortunately he realises who his mother is. It is still hard to hear her invalidate him when he makes good points and making decisions in his life, setting his direction.
Make sure you tell him all this . Good luck to him , hope he makes it . That is how you beat a narcissist and if he eventually succeeds in his ambition then he has won
Having your innocence, support system, truth and success sabotaged from you constantly from the time you’re a child to well into adulthood does something to you. For me it just motivates me to heal and be my true self even more, not let anyone bring me down.
PS. absolutely, a hundred percent accurate description of those parents. Once ive begun to break away, my father began to distance himself, and then it only got worse. So at this point there is no communication, and there were no fights. He's just not interested. He didnt come to my graduation. Actually, he came to the first one, and told me I should have told him what color shirt the waiters would be wearing, so he ended up wearing the same color. He was quasi delusional about his conviction that I somehow KNEW the color of the shirts the waiters would be wearing, and had malignantly, somehow, made him wear that color. Anyway. He didnt come to my next one, said he didnt want to look less well dressed than the other parents. Wow, eh.... a small example of how narcissistic he is. I wish I had learned about narcissism DECADES ago, instead of beginning at age 36
are you me? you described my exact situation even down the to graduation! he was never around during all of the lows and highs I had while in pursuit of my degree but as I receive any achievement; He comes around trying to bask in all of the glory!
My father is a sociopathic, malignant narcissist. He was physically and mentally and emotionally abusive, as well as perverse toward me. He never touched me, but I felt dirty and icky and psychologically molested from his innuendo and disgusting comments that would only be appropriate to say to my mother. I was a great student, stayed out of trouble, and he would frequently tell me I would fail at things asked to do, and that he didn't want me to embarrass myself (read - he didn't want me to embarrass him). I had a career choice picked out, and he completely bashed it, because he thought it was ridiculous, and not even close to what he wanted me to do. It was his way, or no college, so I didn't go. It would take 10 pages of comment for me to cover all the details of the things he did and said. All I can say is that I am 60 years old and am still dealing with some very deep-seated issues, burned into my brain wiring during those formative years. My most recent ex-husband is also a sociopathic narcissist, and even with many years of therapy, I'm still trying to wash some of that crap off. They do so much damage to your heart, mind and soul. My father would try and get back in my good graces, and I'd give our relationship one more try, and one more, and one more, and the tries always ended up the same - it was all about him, and none about me. I haven't seen him for years, and I like it that way. The permanent scars left behind are bad enough without opening and rubbing salt in the old wounds. I wish love, joy and peace to all of us who are trying to heal and recover from these situations.
My dad one time told me and my sister that we are breeders because of our body types!? It was rude and a weirdo thing to say. I totally understand what you mean though. If I were to ask my dad if he even knew my birthday he probably wouldn't. It's all about them and that really sucks that we were gypt out of a normal father/daughter relationship.
@@Jessica-iq6kj That is terrible - what a horrific, creepy thing to say. Sometimes, I feel bad because I look at other fathers and daughters interacting and I can't help but wonder "what's" on the father's mind. I know in my heart of hearts I shouldn't feel that way, but I can't help it. That's how damaged my mind is regarding father/daughter relationships.
He Jill. Yeah. It is not easy to have a parent who is a narcissist. I have written it several times, but my last relationship was with a covert narcissist. She used all the tricks and trades to get me into a relationship. She has two young children, not mine and they will have to deal with the flaws, lies and fake behavior of their mother. That is so sad that they don't have a healthy roll model. Her father is an overt narcissist by the way. So after I ended the relationship with my covert narcissist ex partner and I was searching for answers, information and it became clearer and clearer. It just was a mission impossible to have a succesfull relationship with my covert narcissist ex partner. Good luck everybody and keep spreading the message.
i love how she is all upbeat about "Welcome to my channel, we're gonna be talking about fun, fun topics such as complex PTSD, parental alienation... yay!" Im not being sarcastic, by the way. I just like to make jokes all the time... this is part of my problems, as a result of growing up with narcissists. No need to have a broken heart, we need to work on our issues and get better! (it's very difficult and time consuming, but it is the ONLY way forward.)
Exact description of my mother ,partly my father who have arresred my life ,my progress ,my leaving them to live on my own and my own life which has been stolen by them while they ,esp my mom,have been constantly blaming me ,bringing me down for it ,got not having a life of my owm and scapegoating me for all her failures and also my sisters' wierd way of living and mistakes and for my brother's leaving them and immigrating to another country .my mom presents me as the faulty one ,presents me as the toddler ,handicapped one whom she has to help her ,bear her ,and provide for her to the outside world ,she gossips about me to other people to present herself as a caring mother ,exposes me and my private life ,every activity of mine negatively to others ,not mentioning my helps,my achievements ,my sufficiencies nor to me neither to others ,she is my sisters' enanbler to abuse me.
My mother keeps my siblings under her rulership by bringing up the “horrible” treatment she has received from everyone in her life, even from decades ago. That and her poor health are literally all she talks about. My siblings constantly coddle and coo her to try to make her feel better, but she never ever feels better. I am not part of that toxic environment.
If you havent come to a place of acceptance, that's okay. If you havent stopped feeling sad or angry or revengeful or grief stricken, that's okay. The end 'goal' is not to get to a place where you dont ever feel these emotions about the reality of your life and the hand you were dealt, but rather to let yourself feel however you feel, to feel all of the emotions you had to hide to be a good son/daughter and to fit their narrative. Understand this and for the first time you will experience unconditional love... and it will be from the most powerful source - yourself. With love, Chris
My mom and sister check every box on the narcissism list but they are both bossy. Not only bossy but can't take a suggestion at all. Plus they interrupt you when you are talking. And my sister will snap " don't interrupt me" and just keep talking and dominate every conversation. It has been so peaceful now that I have blocked all communication.
Having married into a narcissist family they had me for dinner it was relentless, after 9 years I was suicidal and they loved it, also one of them was a famous England footballer who forced a young girl to take ecstasy and she dropped dead, somehow he managed to get away with it, the family still projected he was amazing, he never got caught, my only regret is I had no self worth to see them for what they truly were, they all had that narcissistic stare of pure hate, truly evil people
Wise words! My 2nd husband was a German guy. N.mom was poopscared of him!..He called her by her name. Then she would phone my dearest best friend and try to get info....how is it going with my daughter and German hubby?. My friend said to her: "If you think that I ll gossip of my friend and her hubby behind her back...you can forget it! End of story!"
Bless you Jill..your content is always spot on and the healing peace and recognition you give many is priceless and life saving! . So much love and gratitude. .☺💜
This is my mom. Every. Single. Point. It feels AWFUL and healing at the same time to hear someone else has gone through this...in the exact same way. It really is pathological.
Yup yup yup. Pushing 60 and just figured out Mommy is a psychopath (or narcissist.) Just figured out that memories don’t lie but humans do and sometimes even mommies do and some mommies even brainwash their children. I’ve had my thoughts that Mommy made me believe (I was too young not to believe her) and my memories compartmentalized. While talking to my sister one day a couple weeks ago, I started to think about my memories vs. what I was told by Mommy. (Freakin night and day and day and night, she drilled into us what she wanted us to believe.)There’s a lot of things I can say other than, “told by Mommy”, but just to keep things simple, the truth is that she totally brainwashed me. When I realized it, I didn’t know if it was true or if I was going crazy and had totally lost my mind. I felt so guilty for even thinking that about her in that way. After a couple days I started laughing at how my mom had played the victim and pretty dumb and weak, BUT the whole time she actually had an almost a perfectly calculated equation to drive a wedge between all of us (4) siblings and then my dad. There was a couple things she wouldn’t have been able to factor in to that equation though. 1. That my sister, a year younger than me, knew Jesus from a very young age, and wasn’t able to be brainwashed and mentally survived the extreme physical abuse by having a relationship with Christ, and 2. as odd as it may sound, I have memories from just a year old. I actually remember being at my grandparents when my mom and dad brought my sister home from the hospital and it was time for all of us to go home. Lots more to say, but I don’t have the energy to write a novel this morning. 🌺 I’m thinking and realizing more every day and my emotions are on a roller coaster, not one that I’ve ever been on because I don’t get sick, but this one sure does make me sick. Thank God for the two bottles of tTums I had in the cabinet. And thank you in Enlightened target for sharing your experience strength and hope. God bless you.
At 33 years old i found out, accepted and realized that,my mother is a narcissist,she also has borderline personality disorder,she lied to me about so much and she lied on me my entire life,and i never knew the real her until now,no contact for the last 3 years every couple of months she goes on a smear campaign about me and other people who she doesn't know because she cant deal with the fact that i no longer desire a relationship with her, she doesn't know how to reflect only deflect she is the main reason why i got a late start in life because she taught me absolutely nothing on purpose, she has never had my back only pretended to..tells anyone who will listen to her that she was the perfect mom and how i was horrible to her as a daughter and she doesn't have a clue why i no longer want her in my life and that shes just worried and concerned about me, she doesn't tell people about the abuse and sick things she did to me,she dont tell people how she called me all types of bitches as a little girl because she wanted me to listen to her gossip and ask me inappropriate questions,how she brought predator men around, and how she treated me like i was a thing and not her child,she dont tell people how jealous she was of me, and didnt build up any confidence in me hoping i would never know or learn my worth my mom is mentally and spiritually disturbed,im now morning a mom that i never had,and i will be relieved when she is no longer here on this earth, not saying i want something bad to happen to her,but shes a miserable person and maybe she will find peace when she is no longer here i hope she gets right with God at least..
My step mother looked me dead in my face when i was 6 years old and said “ You know you’re daddy and I are married now, so that mean that he will always love me more than you now”
I hav a ques ... If my parent is like this... Now who do i trust now in this world.? Who is there for me... Who loves me... Who likes me.... Where do i go when i am sad... Or down by world... Who do i go to? Why me... What wrong did i do to anyone? That m born in such a family
Parents/dad: Let’s see now what have you done for us? Dad: Look at everything we’ve done for you . Dad: Do you remember bla bla bla.....? I do... remember that he taught me to break hunting laws, like shooting from the road, after dark, tagging each other’s game animals, trespassing, killing in closed area and saying we got it in another open area. He beat me as a child and shamed me as an adult, He has never owned up to losing our million dollar ranch property after it was COMPLETELY , 100% paid for. Borrowed $14,000 from me to purchase it. Then never paid me back for over 15 years.. because I finally stood up and asked for it. Did I mention he’s a P.O.S. And btw, It rocked em to the core when I got my Doctor’s degree in Chiropractic at age 40. They had the money and time to attend, but didn’t!! That’s when, according to them, “I became arrogant and so much better than the rest of the kids.” And that I have always been so damn selfish and such a smartalic. They are 84 and 85 years of age. And my oldest sister, their golden child, died a week or so ago. Well, she was on year four of her silent treatment to me. She got to know me through their evil eyes. Gossiping bunch of bastards. It’s still echoes in my memory how my so-called mother screamed down at me that it was pure damn laziness that I Peed the bed at age 10. Did I mentioned That I continued peeing the bed till late high-school and stuttered profoundly? It took a Loooong time to accept that I wasn’t the problem.
Narcissist Chronicles ; Mister Jesse C Sir . Your teachings along with others & My Strength has “ leading by example “ taught my beautiful Child who has been controlled manipulated used abused - well you know the list . . . To Take Measures Into Her Own Hands although w/children and the Narc family and them / him hoovering threatening tricking her family friends - well going grey rock for now I’m teaching her from learning here , bottom line My Child is doing what need to be done despite the “ ignorance “ of others and their thoughts of OMG She Will Win this and Win a Life and will repair what she had to leave behind and she will get it all back 2 fold Material Stuff Don’t Matter , Lives Matter No One no one Understand what she must do however when she comes back for the the littles There Will Be No Stopping This Woman Miah - She is her Mother’s Daughter and she will the and is learning to evaluate her true friends along with friends to come . Christine Williams here my FB is public. I am a person that genuinely cares against all so called “ Norms “
I remind myself of the projection - the things they have called me ie "stupid little bitch" (mommy dearest) "dumber than dog shit" (aggressive alcoholic dad) - is how they feel about themselves and try to laugh...but it's hard.
My cousin laughed at Me and said "yeah Mary, you got short-changed" and laugh some more. Yes hurt Me on purpose any way she could. Evan after her death, set Me up one last time. I accept that NM hated ME. There was NO Love. I was the scapegoat.
by the way, a narc parent MAY be happy to have you succeed, BUT ONLY on THEIR terms. As long as you maintain THEIR life direction, THEIR values, etc, they may well be happy with it. When I merely started developing my own opinions, daddy-o went to bitch about it to his coworkers. How do I know? He told me. He told me, pensive-like, that his coworker told him he also has a daughter who's a problem. Then daddy-o told me what THAT daughter is like. Well, it was extremely unsettling and insulting to be compared to that. I was a university student who graduated magna cum laude, and was accepted to medschool. I had no legal troubles, no drugs, no drinking etc. There was nothing to reproach me, but he was bitching about me to coworkers that he himself qualified of being shit: he said he wouldnt sit to take a shit next to them.
So....I looked for your email address but couldn't find it. This is so crazy......Growing up I had the shit whipped out of me with a belt by my pops constantly, and laughed at and told the EXACT SAME things you just said. I was laughed at when I would cry to them to try and understand, I was told too many times to count that I would never amount to anything, they would tell me to get my things and leave at age of 10 on up. Ran away a bunch of times. One time my mom drove me to a psychiatric hospital and told them a ton of things that weren't true about me and admitted me in that place for months on end. One night I woke up to my roommate choking me and trying to kill me, and when I told my dad crying. He laughed and said I was lying and that I was a piece of shit good for nothing son. While ironically one of the first things he said in that visit right before I told him was that he loved me and that I was his number 1 son. Then laughed at me not 5 min later after I told him that. I went on to be homeless living on the streets for 13 years.......I hate to say it but after he passed. I sensed a HUGE sense of relief for some reason and at first felt completely guilty for feeling that. As time went on I came to understand why I felt that. I moved from another county....dropped my business I started out there to come help my mother take care of the property and make sure she wasn't lonely after my father passed. And slowly but surely months after moving in with her she is doing the same old things and saying the same ol crap they used to tell me when I was a child. Shit hurts.
A real "oh sh*t moment" it wasn't my brother who got put in jail because the girl looked old enough... It was that manipulating 12 year old who was experienced in lying.....🤪OMG... I'm feeling like I never want to speak to her again.. but I haven't in years..
But what if they r not that bad? What if they were not bad parents n raised u pretty good. Fed u clothed u sent u to good schools paid for ur college? This is so confusing.
Yes. That's why they put on such good acts when any outsiders are watching them. They become instant saints. A wicked narc mother will become the Mom on Leave it to Beaver. I've seen it many times.
growing ! Yes Yes Yes ! This Vid, done it, it works , grey rock then as healing continues karma ( middle name ) then preventing hoover confront the Hoover prevent the Hoover when strong enough and know the “ book “ . It’s not inviting them in - - - It’s scaring them off w / their tails between their legs ! . . . Gotta do your homework W A R R I O R S ! Christine Williams here a Person that Genuinely Cares ! Love 💗 prayers prayers prayers 🙏 to you all . . . You got this Your Smart Keep Keep Keep listening to the Coaches and remember You All Matter . There is light sunshine trees breeze nature love futures to be heard & seen and it’s all waiting 4 you z ! What are you waiting for ?
EVERYTHING is always someone else's fault!! You know how they say daughters tend to marry their fathers? I married my mother......took me 27 years of marriage to FINALLY see that!! And, AND....I WAS STARTING TO BECOME HER!!!!!🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️😳😳😳😳🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
My mother is 90 years old and I feel absolutely nothing for you .. She is So Evil and Rotten to the core! She abused me so badly in everyway possible.. I cannot trust women ever! I will never have a woman for a friend!! My mother I am sorry to say I Want ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH HER!! I am 55 years old and I HAVE SO MUCH FEAR TAKING CARE OF ME FINANCIALLY BECAUSE SHE CONTROLLED ME WITH MONEY.. She told me I was and am a terrible mother… She is cruel and Evil.. She abused my father her husband and beat him up and beat me up SO BAD I HAD TO WEAR LONG SKIRTS TO COVER MY BRUISES!! My sister is A SPIT AN IMAGE OF HER AND MY OTHER BROTHER… my father she told me to stay away from him you are bothering him.. The only love I got was from my other brother Timmy… My MOTHER MAKES ME SICK!! My father said inappropriate words to me but MY MOTHER IS THE MOTHER OF SYBIL ..
How about petitioning the whitehouse... and ACTUALLY have Laws drawn up against them, thier shitty little coward ways and thier ABUSE.. AND HAVE THEM ENACTED INTO LAW! so that for any future hideous emotional torture of thier victims along with parental abandonment aka: child stealing etc. Can AND WILL be taken before the court of Law so that they are EXPOSED 100% AND ARE FASTITIOUSLY AND LIBELY HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL EACH AND EVERYONE OF THIER ACTIONS? I THINK IT CAN BE DONE AND VERY WELL SHOULD BE DONE and held up to lawmakers as a form of Wanton domestic abuse and violence, Lawmakers ABSOLUTELY NEED TO RALLY A FEW OF THESE GENIOUS HUMANBEINGS HERE LIKE THIS GOOD WOMAN...AND DO SOME SERIOUS PENCILING AS TO THE SEVERITY OF THE DAMAGE THAT ALL OF THESE PSYCOTIC , WORTHLESS WASTES OF UNIVERSAL AIR THEY BREATH, PIECES OF CRAP ACTUALLY NEED TO BE PUNISHED SEVERELY FOR! YOU better start those jail cells Gum Ball, and make them far and wide as small as the law will allow....because I am dead set on getting all these precious souls that have had to endure this terroristic form of abuse even for 1 minute or for a lifetime ...THE JUSTICE ,CLOSURE, AND THE RETRIBUTION TO BE MADE WHOLE AGAIN ....even if it takes the rest of my own life to do it..so HELP ME JESUS!
My X wife i meet in 2017 was absolutly this kind of person you talk about ,all her others husband was crasy and violent, her son at 38 years live home and his room was like a teenagers ,he work and bring money to this shit Mother, she use for personal things for herself ,it take me 3,5 years before discard her ,the best things i ever do ,she still control her son but the problem is he not understand anything ,i saw very often her rolling eyes and how she manipulate this son and nemt moment Kiss his chin..
These people are demons and they should be a very strong lawsuit against such evil beings.
i had to reevaluate my entire life with a new perspective. the perspective that my parents in reality hated me and wanted to undermine my entire life from an early age. constantly undermining me and sabotaging my life. I had to look at all the lies. It was like coming out of the darkness and seeing what was really going on. It was like I was walking and stumbling in the dark my whole life.
@Kenneth Liburd nope. they hated me and tried to kill me
@Kenneth Liburd yea, i know what murder is, I also remember when my mom attempted to drown me in the pool
Dump the people /go nocontactx
@Kenneth Liburd how could you presume to know? Plenty of 'parents' hate and even kill their children.
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I’ve gone through this too and it’s such a deep aching pain. Having a narcissistic parent for me caused me a life of deep sadness that I cannot explain.
Hang in there, rise above. Know what your saying. Nice to have people like Jill to help us....
My brother and I were taken from my mother aftermath dad deserted us i was 18 most old and put in a cottage setting in cali. In the 60's. Then foster care after that..my Father really loved us but the mom only saw $$$. She had a sister in a mental hospital. Allready when they did maybe the courts should have taken that into accord. It was the foster mother that claimed us but used us for her narcissistic supply... it has been a real heartbreaking, emotional, critical judgemental, alianated, always feelin left out, and also being left out, lonely alone most of the times really maddening and hurtful when the bitch wooed my son into her clutches and basically stole him from me and allianated him almost completely from frigging life and exsistance.. my only child my dear sweet little man..she's got his head so twisted and sideways...when she dies I don't know if I will ever be able to get him the help he needs to be well again either. I'm 55 now too.. my son is in his 20s...my Father died when I was pregnant with my son...he was awsome.. to this day I dont know how he managed but he did and he did it well...her...she's always been a darkness in my sunshine and a darkness in her ways towards me...always plotting failure..never "really helping " feel really and truly that my life has been nothing but completely screwey and ive been definitely set up....
Mental illness is no joke especially paired with extreme narcisistic sociopaths toteing a multiple personality disorders..
I feel really RIPPED OFF... MY GOSH... just a little baby girl I was...in a cottage and foster care...LADY I ALLREADY HAD ISSUES OR WAS GONNA,...PAHLEEEESE! THEN not only that you sentenced me to a life of your narcistic abuse...., Really... !! I had parents you took me from them....you made my life shittier again! And you never stopped.. I have people who love me...thank god... but you will go to hell if you don't figure your crappy shifty ways out and see a priest while your at it too...
You of all people in the world should never have been able to take someone else's children and use them as nothing but a but wipe and slavery....how dare these people.,.! It is debauchery and it is just all together a real crime... do not allow this game playing crap in your home nip it in the bud....these cowards need to be put up on the stand!!! Or hanged...
You might be interested in Toxic Parents and Mothers Who Can't Love by Susan Forward and It's Not Your Fault by Beverly Engel
Wow, dead on, brilliant! And not just the parents but the fake friends and bosses/coworkers too.
This one gets me deeply. The long shadow(s) of the covert celebrity causes damage beyond repair.
Yes, I totally agree!
My son's 17, and I hope one day he'll realize the truth about his mom. Right now, he's 100% for her. Poor ole Pops is left out in the cold. Praying for a revelation for him.
I've come to terms with who my mother is and I left as soon as i turned 16. It wasn't easy because she did everything she could to sabotage me. I've done better than I ever expected I could and that is because I left early and surrounded myself with people who were positive and encouraging. Other people who didn't know me well would tell me that I had the potential to do well career wise. I used to tell these people that I wasn’t as intelligent as they thought and though I was grateful for their positive words, it wasn't going to happen for me. But hearing it enough encouraged me to try and now I have built up good grades that enabled me to work in dentistry and I'll be going to university next year to further my dental career. I never thought that was possible before. My brother on the other hand, the last time I spoke to him, I got the sense that he had completely accepted defeat. He was only 17 years old and he had given up on the idea of achieving anything. I recall asking my brother about his ambitions and career choices. My mother was on the video call too and she answered for him, so I told her to be quiet and let him speak for himself. He was very pessimistic and said he doesn't have good grades so his options were limited. So I told him he should go back to college and study and then apply for university. I said to him that it is never too late to turn things around and get those grades and i told him that that was what I was doing at the time, so it can be done. OMG this was the worst thing I could have ever said to him, because my mother jumped down my throat before I could finish my sentence, telling me not to fill his head with nonsense. I think she thinks I'm a bad influence on him, because he used to look up to me (I don't know why) so she's quite happy that I cut contact with him. My mother is the type of person that her and my brother come as a package, so if I want to have contact with him then she has to be there too. And he lets her, he won't say no to her and it is so frustrating. My children have never met their uncle and she doesn't care.
I cry for the child that I was with each unraveling of what was really happening during those instances that upset me enough to stay with me. Because we never questioned our parent, we trusted completely. My narc mother still triangulates my sibs and I, ( or tries to ) and tries to create drama but I refuse to indulge her on every level, with a nonchalant attitude to make sure I don't feed her need for supply, and this helps my healing.
Judd Thats how I deal with my Narc Mother too.
Thank you for this video, my narc mother triangulated my relationship with all my siblings, she ruined my life, my brother was her golden child, he turned into a narcissist. after my father died, I didn’t talk to her for 7 years, she was angry again at me over something she made up in her head, my brother stopped talking to her until he died, she wasn’t even allowed to attend his funeral, today she’s alone, she’s calmed down a bit but I still hear her trying to manipulate me when I talk to her, so I keep her at arms length, I forgiven her for myself but I’m still angry at myself for allowing my sons being in her life, she treated them like she did with me and my siblings, narcissistic parents are very damaging and as a adult you tend to attract narc partners. I have learned lots about narcissism and done a lot of self reflection and healing, good luck to all of you that are figuring out the truth now.
My mom had cancer, and died. Thank God
@Scapegoat mine died. I was 35. I'm 40 now. Later this year. I'm the one who had to take care of her. I'm also the last person who should have been doing it.
It may be true that there is a god or that what goes around , comes around like karma . It is what I thought when both my parents died eventually Step mother at 60 from cancer and father at 70 from smoking and drinking related illness
Me too. Pancreatic Cancer. She was a deadly bitch to me, and it has taken 60 years for me to find out I was totally f**ked. But thank goodness for my current counselor who has saved me!
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So did mine. I cried with relief that she was no longer in my life. My husband danced and sang, "The Wicked Witch Is Dead".
I will NEVER understand this , want my grown children to obtain and maintain their very best selves !
You would have to be a narcissist to understand one. I only learned at 51 about what exacltly a narcissist is and I've had many in my life who have done serious damage.
This video is a truth bomb. I appreciate you outlining the characteristics of parental narcissistic abuse. I realized about 7-8 years ago in a therapy session that my father was an overt narcissist while sharing about a narcissistic neighbor. I recently came to the realization that my mother, who passed away 11 years ago, was a covert/vulnerable narcissist. After my mother’s passing from terminal cancer and expecting to go into deep grief, I experienced a sense of relief on several levels. Once I realized that she was a covert narcissist, it all made sense. I was supposed to give her grandchildren. She also seemed jealous of my accomplishments and was threatened by my friendships. As far as my father is concerned, he has a tendency to project his fear and paranoia onto me to sow seeds of self-doubt while at the same time claiming to be so proud of me through excessive flattery and love bombing.
That sounds similar to how I grew up . some of that sounds just like I experienced
THIS IS SO TRUE. Thank you for sharing your story. It helps others like me to realize there are so many of us that have gone through this and overcome and that I’m not alone...even though I feel like it.
@@Kk-gy5zv You’re welcome! I’m glad you found my experience validating and helpful.
Yes my dad is a narcissist a covert narcissist he does not care who he hurts all he does is lie & talk shit behind my back . He said I owe him and he does not wanting me having a life of my own or thinking for myself .
same here. my narc dad loved having others abuse me.
@@narcissistinjurygiver2932 That makes 2 of us then .
That’s them! 🎯🎯🎯
@@fifilafleur5555 They have made me a target and ya'll too .
My Dad feels the same way. It’s very sad how bitter and unhappy he is.
I had the narcissistic step parent, and the dynamic he created was to cause me to be afraid of moving out on my own by constantly talking about how hard it is, while also reminding me of the age at which I would be thrown out. I don't think my mother is a narcissist but every time I had an opportunity to move and be on my own she would sabotage it, she cost me a job making $4,000 a month and she cost me a project that I created which people invested money into. Once everything in my life was damaged to the point where I can't do anything, that's when she tells me that I can now go and make it on my own. I feel so livid and angry all the time and I'm tired and exhausted of feeling angry.
Ardent, narc parents are like this. They first take, strip off and use you. Once they achieved the full destruction, they will put you "free" to see you struggle in life, what is huge supply for their dark, empty, bottomless dark hole something what the narc is. And so much more destruction. They are a destruction machine...non human
I was 58+ when I saw the EVIL smile on my mother's face that enjoyed causing me pain & hardships...
Jill, this is so true! When I succeeded .They tried to claim it for themselves because they raised me! So so sick
This is the 2nd of your videos I’ve watched this morning. I’ve had to pause to take a breather......
My father told me a few years ago “You are the biggest underachiever I’ve ever met.” This 15 years after leaving Canada and my parents behind. I’ve travelled Europe, worked in 6 countries, and now work as an airline pilot. Fabulous wife and daughter. And yet I still feel like a loser, struggle to make friends, undervalue myself, have NO self-esteem........ I wish I’d had direction 25 years ago. I think the “ secret”part of my personality irreparable...
You might be interested in Toxic Parents and Mothers Who Can't Love by Susan Forward and It's Not Your Fault by Beverly Engel
John, it’s cold comfort; but he says that because he feels so small and worthless when he thinks about everything you have and how much you have achieved. 🤍
Wow , That summed up the parents I had and although my grandparents never seemed to be like that with me My parents both claimed that I should be so lucky as to not have grown up with them. There were a few rare times where I can recall they could be like that if I wasnt being as they wanted ( ie behaving) but generally it was my parents. They are both dead now but I still remember it all. I learned to isolate my self from them and more so when I left home. My brother and sister both remained at home well into their early to late 30 ´s respectfully till they left . The only thing I learned how to deal with a narcissist is to cut them off. Dont wrestle a pig ; you both get dirty but the pig doesnt care . Defending yourself by giving a taste of thier own medicine doesnt work because you go down to their level and it makes you out to be the bad guy while they are the poor innocent victim. And they take full advantage of it
Oh, how accurate you are. This is exactly how it was with my mother. Your channel is very useful to so many people. Thank you 🙏
My Dad, is a classic narc. I am almost 70. I went no contact 11 years ago and also eliminated everyone who had any contact or was a pipeline of information to this man. I had been undermined, attacked in every way imaginable. People, going no contact is the best thing that you will EVER do for yourself. No matter how successful or wealthy I became I was still a failure. And the lies this jerk off perpetuated were awful. But I am strong and self confident so I finally found the will to say to hell with dear old daddy and mr enabling mommy dearest. Wake up, trust in the Lord and believe in yourself. These are awful people, the day Geoffrey Chaney dies will be a day of joy for me. He has altzheimers and is physically failing...and the worse he gets. I have forgiven him, but the forgiveness is for ME so I carry less hatred for the man. Good luck to you all. Greg Chaney in coastal NC
You might be interested in Toxic Parents and Mothers Who Can't Love by Susan Forward and It's Not Your Fault by Beverly Engel
6:48 This section describes my experience almost to a T. I’m a senior adult married many years. My deceased mother was an overt narcissist and my dad (who is in a facility for Alzheimer’s) is a covert narcissist. My mother wanted me to be her and live her life. Being or expressing any other opinion or desire was met with extreme reaction. She had to be the center of all attention. Example: one Christmas we flew from the west coast to the east coast to visit both our families. We were to stay at my family’s home for the visit. The day my husband and I spent visiting with his family ended with returning to my family’s house to a raging mother angry that we spent all day with my in-laws and ended with my mother throwing the gifts we brought out on the snow covered front lawn and kicking us out of the house. My dad said not a word the whole time. An example of my dad’s covert narcissism toward me was always asking me at the start of any phone conversation “did you just wake up?” no matter what time of the day it was. The insinuation being I do nothing all day even though my husband and I have been running our own business for many years. Dads put downs are subtle passive aggressive like that and attempts to induce guilt. He always gave with strings attached. The one thing that really stands out about my parents is realizing they never attempted to show any interest in who I was and what interested me or what my dreams and goals were for my life. Unfortunately it took me years to realize how it all affected me. I’m glad narcissism knowledge is in the mainstream now. In the ‘80’s Melody Beattie’s Codependent No More was the catalyst to my understanding of how I was affected. Your videos are right on point.
Kath, I know, I was there too!
@Keith cardinale i had to respond to your comment on how your dad answered the phone no matter what he had to do an insult. oh my gosh. if my dad answered the phone to anyone besides me he just would answer it. hello . but if he knew it was me he would pick up the phone but not say a word. it was his way of establishing a position of power if he made me talk first.... talk a about a petty little thing " I can see his mind saying . she wont get her way im the one in power I chose not to talk first. that is how controlling and bizarre . but he used to say ' oh your sleeping in " when he knew I suffered terribly with insomnia as a young teen I went a long time gettng like 30 minutes of sleep here and there and I was horribly suffering l lost my friends my energy I was a zombie and all he could do is rub it in ' oh wow you are sleeping it" and I would be unable to say no dad I have been up since 1 am and its now 10 the next morning I was up for nine hours and slept a half hours. I still cant believe they allowed me to suffer like that and could care less. it was pure torture I forgot about all of that.
@@Myssy1 Yes, my dad was also a strings attached giver. Sad way to be.
I got good news! 1 year since my plan of escape began and I did escape June 10 2020 - I spent 4 months still listening to Coaches such as Jesse C on the Chronicles. Now I’m moving again - moving on with my life and taking a leap to yet another State to begin the next stage of my life / Living except this time I am not running away I am running to a busy wonderful future ! Christine Williams here - A Person That Genuinely Cares
Thanks.
0:45...I was just thinking...I feel like I've been through a long painful journey now that my parents have died and the toxicity is over.
I'm 55, Dad died back in the spring at 85, and Mom died a year before that.
I just feel a sense of relief about the whole thing.
To a point I was like that but beware of hidden anger that may surface . That is what I have noticed
@@MrTimjm009 Thanks for the reply. I'll be on the lookout for that. I get what you're saying, but honestly, the way things worked out I don't know what I'd get angry about. ...other than long distance contact I'm not involved in the family any more! 😁👍
This is so sad to hear others experiences, any age, different generation's but years of this dreadful behaviour from the people who are suppose to love us and people we should love, once did love but eventually you realise wjats wrong and yet others don't recognise what's happening. It makes me really sad..
@@juliaf7068 Blood is not always thicker than water
I’ve lived with narcissism all my life!,,, my parents ( my moms 92 and nasty as hell )my siblings,, my 2 partners,,, I think I’m done !!,,,,😫
Problem is , it seems infectious , I fear my younger brother and sister are the same as my parents were . You can only keep these kinds of people away from you , dont let them infect you too
U r not alone brother... We are all same experinace.. no life of my own.
Thank You Jill, Perfect.
My turning point was at 7 years old. My Grandpa got beaten nearly to death by my narcissistic mother, his daughter in law. She cornered us kids and gave her explanation of why he needed beat. I was the only child that disagreed. ( been paying for that disagreement for 49 years) Grandpa enlightened me, by telling me the next day, " Just changing one letter can change your life forever, You can be 'Bitter' or you can be 'Better'. " He was a very wise man and was never Bitter. That is why she beat him. Wanting his outlook on life.
Jill, you are also very wise. Thank You. Your validation is gratefully appreciated. Thank you.
Wowzer - you just described my mom to a tee. She made sure nothing was said to the neighbors and put fear into us to not talk about anything to anybody - it’s none of their business.
Thanks again Jill. I am struggling with the anger. I know their actions are deliberate (in my situation) and that they know what they are doing, yet they call themselves Christian...its knowing what nobody else sees and knows and how alone you are in it that is such a terrible place to drag yourself out of. How did you deal with your anger? I can just be driving down the road and I will remember something they said and my mood will turn sour and angry cause I now know that they manipulated me with their "victimhood" stories and I felt sorry for them when I should have felt sorry for myself trying to survive a childhood with a monster that can't love anybody and should have never had children.
Krisluvsutube, same with me. I struggled with anger towards my covert narcissistic mother. I hate her.
I agree that they are monsters and that they should never have children because they are so evil.
Same here . My parents are both dead now . Mother 8 years and father 3 . I still feel the anger. I try to keep busy and not dwell on it . Lately , with the pandemic and general disruption to work etc , I find that seems to have increased a bit and harder to do with the unwanted time on my hands.
Wow I went through the same thing! Step dad was bad, changed my mom to his ways and her a christian but turned hypocritical in teachings and him same ol same ol and not Christian. Left me all confused and I still am at times and don't go to church either.
You might be interested in Toxic Parents and Mothers Who Can't Love by Susan Forward and It's Not Your Fault by Beverly Engel
@@newmamaful Thanks. I will check those out!
After being abused by narcissist ex husband for 30 years I just realised that my own father is a narcissist. I have been watching video’s like this for almost a year now but it was because of stories my children told me about my parents that I realised that they are very abusive. I feel a little bit stupid but I really had no idea 💔 So now I have to figure out how to handle this shituation 😩
U nailed the last one with the “image”. My in-laws r so concerned with the image. That’s all they care about. I really don’t think they ever do anything that’s not image concerned. From academics to schools to athletics to appearances.
It’s important to also understand that acceptance or radical acceptance of who or what they are, does not mean engagement. Guaranteed that, if you start telling yourself that you accept what your parent is or if you start using the word acceptance with others, who are often enablers, you will have provided them the bullets to the gun that will shoot you. Because, at least in my experience, 100% of the people I know, either don’t know WTF NPD is and they don’t care to learn OR they may feel that things will work out just fine, as long as you eat your pride and hug it out OR they are abusers by proxy, who want to see you locked in a situation where you accept it and can’t get out, ensuring your downfall and they will act like it’s just whoopsies, when you do.
I have come to accept that my mother likely has NPD, that it is fixed, that there’s nothing I can do about it, but I haven’t seen her in over 2 years, because I’m not about to open myself up to that nightmare. I already know that, when she has requested that I come to her house for something, it isn’t simply that she likely has onset dementia at this point and “forgets” that I’ve told her there’s a pandemic or that my car isn’t in good enough condition, it’s that, she has long become the type of person that needs buy one example of something she wants, to create a precedence for it to continue. In other words, if my car gets me to her house just once, in a nice summer day, there’s absolutely ZERO reason why I shouldn’t be driving to her house, on a daily basis, in a snowstorm, ensuring all of her needs are met. If I wrap my car around a tree, in that effort, oh well. At least it was for her.
Reclaiming my time!
Almost there and none of those abusive freaks from my family get to be a part of it.
Been watching that with my son's mother. He has worked hard to get a very high mark. He applied for medicine and had interviews, she came along and basically got him worked up during the journey. Both times. He failed the interviews. She tried to get him to do Commerce when his heart is set on Medicine. Currently, he is averaging HD doing Engineering and having another go to get into medicine. Again his mother has been discouraging him.
Fortunately he realises who his mother is. It is still hard to hear her invalidate him when he makes good points and making decisions in his life, setting his direction.
Make sure you tell him all this . Good luck to him , hope he makes it . That is how you beat a narcissist and if he eventually succeeds in his ambition then he has won
Having your innocence, support system, truth and success sabotaged from you constantly from the time you’re a child to well into adulthood does something to you. For me it just motivates me to heal and be my true self even more, not let anyone bring me down.
PS. absolutely, a hundred percent accurate description of those parents. Once ive begun to break away, my father began to distance himself, and then it only got worse. So at this point there is no communication, and there were no fights. He's just not interested. He didnt come to my graduation. Actually, he came to the first one, and told me I should have told him what color shirt the waiters would be wearing, so he ended up wearing the same color. He was quasi delusional about his conviction that I somehow KNEW the color of the shirts the waiters would be wearing, and had malignantly, somehow, made him wear that color. Anyway. He didnt come to my next one, said he didnt want to look less well dressed than the other parents. Wow, eh.... a small example of how narcissistic he is. I wish I had learned about narcissism DECADES ago, instead of beginning at age 36
You might be interested in Toxic Parents and Mothers Who Can't Love by Susan Forward and It's Not Your Fault by Beverly Engel
are you me? you described my exact situation even down the to graduation! he was never around during all of the lows and highs I had while in pursuit of my degree but as I receive any achievement; He comes around trying to bask in all of the glory!
Thank you, for this video
My favorite narcissus is hyacinth bucket on keeping up appearance. Her son never had a chance.
My father is a sociopathic, malignant narcissist. He was physically and mentally and emotionally abusive, as well as perverse toward me. He never touched me, but I felt dirty and icky and psychologically molested from his innuendo and disgusting comments that would only be appropriate to say to my mother. I was a great student, stayed out of trouble, and he would frequently tell me I would fail at things asked to do, and that he didn't want me to embarrass myself (read - he didn't want me to embarrass him). I had a career choice picked out, and he completely bashed it, because he thought it was ridiculous, and not even close to what he wanted me to do. It was his way, or no college, so I didn't go. It would take 10 pages of comment for me to cover all the details of the things he did and said. All I can say is that I am 60 years old and am still dealing with some very deep-seated issues, burned into my brain wiring during those formative years. My most recent ex-husband is also a sociopathic narcissist, and even with many years of therapy, I'm still trying to wash some of that crap off. They do so much damage to your heart, mind and soul. My father would try and get back in my good graces, and I'd give our relationship one more try, and one more, and one more, and the tries always ended up the same - it was all about him, and none about me. I haven't seen him for years, and I like it that way. The permanent scars left behind are bad enough without opening and rubbing salt in the old wounds. I wish love, joy and peace to all of us who are trying to heal and recover from these situations.
My dad one time told me and my sister that we are breeders because of our body types!? It was rude and a weirdo thing to say. I totally understand what you mean though. If I were to ask my dad if he even knew my birthday he probably wouldn't. It's all about them and that really sucks that we were gypt out of a normal father/daughter relationship.
@@Jessica-iq6kj That is terrible - what a horrific, creepy thing to say. Sometimes, I feel bad because I look at other fathers and daughters interacting and I can't help but wonder "what's" on the father's mind. I know in my heart of hearts I shouldn't feel that way, but I can't help it. That's how damaged my mind is regarding father/daughter relationships.
@@csh43166 thank you ❤ yes I know what you mean.
Spot On!!
He Jill.
Yeah.
It is not easy to have a parent who is a narcissist.
I have written it several times, but my last relationship was with a covert narcissist.
She used all the tricks and trades to get me into a relationship.
She has two young children, not mine and they will have to deal with the flaws, lies and fake behavior of their mother.
That is so sad that they don't have a healthy roll model.
Her father is an overt narcissist by the way.
So after I ended the relationship with my covert narcissist ex partner and I was searching for answers, information and it became clearer and clearer.
It just was a mission impossible to have a succesfull relationship with my covert narcissist ex partner.
Good luck everybody and keep spreading the message.
i love how she is all upbeat about "Welcome to my channel, we're gonna be talking about fun, fun topics such as complex PTSD, parental alienation... yay!"
Im not being sarcastic, by the way. I just like to make jokes all the time... this is part of my problems, as a result of growing up with narcissists. No need to have a broken heart, we need to work on our issues and get better! (it's very difficult and time consuming, but it is the ONLY way forward.)
You might be interested in Toxic Parents and Mothers Who Can't Love by Susan Forward and It's Not Your Fault by Beverly Engel
I'm going to Thrive from this moment forward. 4Real. Amen!
Coworkers and supervisor are the worse. Parents hurt you so much because of the upbringing. Thanks for sharing this video.n
This is my actual childhood you are describing! Every single word you said! Thank you for making these videos!!
I've studied this topic for 15 years. I never heard anyone explain it so good. Bravo!
Bang On !.
Thanks Jill! I always learn something about who I am, and why from you! Sending ❤ from Nova Scotia.😊
That's my wife. Hah, And mother as well. I've suffered myself so. I get it now though. Love the info/ perspective. Love the support. Thank You 😍
Wow... it’s like you are narrating my family life... growing up and even now. Grandparent. Wow. This is crazy. Great video!
Exact description of my mother ,partly my father who
have arresred my life ,my progress ,my leaving them to live on my own and my own life which has been stolen by them while they ,esp my mom,have been constantly blaming me ,bringing me down for it ,got not having a life of my owm and scapegoating me for all her failures and also my sisters' wierd way of living and mistakes and for my brother's leaving them and immigrating to another country .my mom presents me as the faulty one ,presents me as the toddler ,handicapped one whom she has to help her ,bear her ,and provide for her to the outside world ,she gossips about me to other people to present herself as a caring mother ,exposes me and my private life ,every activity of mine negatively to others ,not mentioning my helps,my achievements ,my sufficiencies nor to me neither to others ,she is my sisters' enanbler to abuse me.
Hit the nail on the head there....,,,
What a total gem of a video. Thank You, Jill.
Thank you Jill veeeeery much. 👍
My mother keeps my siblings under her rulership by bringing up the “horrible” treatment she has received from everyone in her life, even from decades ago. That and her poor health are literally all she talks about. My siblings constantly coddle and coo her to try to make her feel better, but she never ever feels better. I am not part of that toxic environment.
This is so accurate
If you havent come to a place of acceptance, that's okay. If you havent stopped feeling sad or angry or revengeful or grief stricken, that's okay. The end 'goal' is not to get to a place where you dont ever feel these emotions about the reality of your life and the hand you were dealt, but rather to let yourself feel however you feel, to feel all of the emotions you had to hide to be a good son/daughter and to fit their narrative. Understand this and for the first time you will experience unconditional love... and it will be from the most powerful source - yourself.
With love,
Chris
Be kind to you. Believe them when they are cruel, and get away.
My mom and sister check every box on the narcissism list but they are both bossy. Not only bossy but can't take a suggestion at all. Plus they interrupt you when you are talking. And my sister will snap " don't interrupt me" and just keep talking and dominate every conversation. It has been so peaceful now that I have blocked all communication.
Having married into a narcissist family they had me for dinner it was relentless, after 9 years I was suicidal and they loved it, also one of them was a famous England footballer who forced a young girl to take ecstasy and she dropped dead, somehow he managed to get away with it, the family still projected he was amazing, he never got caught, my only regret is I had no self worth to see them for what they truly were, they all had that narcissistic stare of pure hate, truly evil people
Wise words! My 2nd husband was a German guy. N.mom was poopscared of him!..He called her by her name.
Then she would phone my dearest best friend and try to get info....how is it going with my daughter and German hubby?. My friend said to her: "If you think that I ll gossip of my friend and her hubby behind her back...you can forget it! End of story!"
Thanks a lot. It's so sad and so true.
U r describing my mom. It's 😥 sad.
Thanks.
Bless you Jill..your content is always spot on and the healing peace and recognition you give many is priceless and life saving! . So much love and gratitude. .☺💜
They're right... We are better than them.
Yes. They envy us which is the root of all their abuse. Trying to sabotage our lives so we don't outshine them.
So true
This is my mom. Every. Single. Point. It feels AWFUL and healing at the same time to hear someone else has gone through this...in the exact same way. It really is pathological.
You might be interested in Toxic Parents and Mothers Who Can't Love by Susan Forward and It's Not Your Fault by Beverly Engel
Amen sister!!
Yup yup yup. Pushing 60 and just figured out Mommy is a psychopath (or narcissist.) Just figured out that memories don’t lie but humans do and sometimes even mommies do and some mommies even brainwash their children. I’ve had my thoughts that Mommy made me believe (I was too young not to believe her) and my memories compartmentalized. While talking to my sister one day a couple weeks ago, I started to think about my memories vs. what I was told by Mommy. (Freakin night and day and day and night, she drilled into us what she wanted us to believe.)There’s a lot of things I can say other than, “told by Mommy”, but just to keep things simple, the truth is that she totally brainwashed me. When I realized it, I didn’t know if it was true or if I was going crazy and had totally lost my mind. I felt so guilty for even thinking that about her in that way. After a couple days I started laughing at how my mom had played the victim and pretty dumb and weak, BUT the whole time she actually had an almost a perfectly calculated equation to drive a wedge between all of us (4) siblings and then my dad. There was a couple things she wouldn’t have been able to factor in to that equation though. 1. That my sister, a year younger than me, knew Jesus from a very young age, and wasn’t able to be brainwashed and mentally survived the extreme physical abuse by having a relationship with Christ, and 2. as odd as it may sound, I have memories from just a year old. I actually remember being at my grandparents when my mom and dad brought my sister home from the hospital and it was time for all of us to go home. Lots more to say, but I don’t have the energy to write a novel this morning. 🌺 I’m thinking and realizing more every day and my emotions are on a roller coaster, not one that I’ve ever been on because I don’t get sick, but this one sure does make me sick. Thank God for the two bottles of tTums I had in the cabinet. And thank you in Enlightened target for sharing your experience strength and hope. God bless you.
Thankyou
Thank you❤🙏❤💯
I didn't see a link below to click for more educational and supportive information..?
At 33 years old i found out, accepted and realized that,my mother is a narcissist,she also has borderline personality disorder,she lied to me about so much and she lied on me my entire life,and i never knew the real her until now,no contact for the last 3 years every couple of months she goes on a smear campaign about me and other people who she doesn't know because she cant deal with the fact that i no longer desire a relationship with her, she doesn't know how to reflect only deflect she is the main reason why i got a late start in life because she taught me absolutely nothing on purpose, she has never had my back only pretended to..tells anyone who will listen to her that she was the perfect mom and how i was horrible to her as a daughter and she doesn't have a clue why i no longer want her in my life and that shes just worried and concerned about me, she doesn't tell people about the abuse and sick things she did to me,she dont tell people how she called me all types of bitches as a little girl because she wanted me to listen to her gossip and ask me inappropriate questions,how she brought predator men around, and how she treated me like i was a thing and not her child,she dont tell people how jealous she was of me, and didnt build up any confidence in me hoping i would never know or learn my worth my mom is mentally and spiritually disturbed,im now morning a mom that i never had,and i will be relieved when she is no longer here on this earth, not saying i want something bad to happen to her,but shes a miserable person and maybe she will find peace when she is no longer here i hope she gets right with God at least..
My step mother looked me dead in my face when i was 6 years old and said “ You know you’re daddy and I are married now, so that mean that he will always love me more than you now”
VIOLATION!!!!🛂 Everyday w mine.
Pinned the tail on the donkey...
So hard to hear this... exactly what I experienced...I'm 65 now...will I ever recover...
You might be interested in Toxic Parents and Mothers Who Can't Love by Susan Forward and It's Not Your Fault by Beverly Engel
My family to a T. 🎯🎯🎯
I hav a ques ... If my parent is like this... Now who do i trust now in this world.? Who is there for me... Who loves me... Who likes me.... Where do i go when i am sad... Or down by world... Who do i go to? Why me... What wrong did i do to anyone? That m born in such a family
Parents/dad: Let’s see now what have you done for us?
Dad: Look at everything we’ve done for you .
Dad: Do you remember bla bla bla.....?
I do... remember that he taught me to break hunting laws, like shooting from the road, after dark, tagging each other’s game animals, trespassing, killing in closed area and saying we got it in another open area.
He beat me as a child and shamed me as an adult,
He has never owned up to losing our million dollar ranch property after it was COMPLETELY , 100% paid for.
Borrowed $14,000 from me to purchase it.
Then never paid me back for over 15 years..
because I finally stood up and asked for it.
Did I mention he’s a P.O.S.
And btw, It rocked em to the core when I got my Doctor’s degree in Chiropractic at age 40.
They had the money and time to attend, but didn’t!!
That’s when, according to them, “I became arrogant and so much better than the rest of the kids.” And that I have always been so damn selfish and such a smartalic.
They are 84 and 85 years of age. And my oldest sister, their golden child, died a week or so ago. Well, she was on year four of her silent treatment to me.
She got to know me through their evil eyes. Gossiping bunch of bastards.
It’s still echoes in my memory how my so-called mother screamed down at me that it was pure damn laziness that I Peed the bed at age 10.
Did I mentioned That I continued peeing the bed till late high-school and stuttered profoundly?
It took a Loooong time to accept that I wasn’t the problem.
Wow! You are amazing. Congrats on chiropractic degree! Sorry for all the shit they put you through. Your true colors show through it all!
You might be interested in Toxic Parents and Mothers Who Can't Love by Susan Forward and It's Not Your Fault by Beverly Engel
Narcissist Chronicles ; Mister Jesse C Sir . Your teachings along with others & My Strength has “ leading by example “ taught my beautiful Child who has been controlled manipulated used abused - well you know the list . . . To Take Measures Into Her Own Hands although w/children and the Narc family and them / him hoovering threatening tricking her family friends - well going grey rock for now I’m teaching her from learning here , bottom line My Child is doing what need to be done despite the “ ignorance “ of others and their thoughts of OMG She Will Win this and Win a Life and will repair what she had to leave behind and she will get it all back 2 fold Material Stuff Don’t Matter , Lives Matter No One no one Understand what she must do however when she comes back for the the littles There Will Be No Stopping This Woman Miah - She is her Mother’s Daughter and she will the and is learning to evaluate her true friends along with friends to come . Christine Williams here my FB is public. I am a person that genuinely cares against all so called “ Norms “
I remind myself of the projection - the things they have called me ie "stupid little bitch" (mommy dearest) "dumber than dog shit" (aggressive alcoholic dad) - is how they feel about themselves and try to laugh...but it's hard.
These books may be of interest to you: Toxic Parents and Mothers Who Can't Love by Susan Forward and It's Not Your Fault by Beverly Engel.
My mother literally stole my son 😢 the day she dies I will be free
do not supply its a thought trend~
Why it is intentional?
My cousin laughed at Me and said "yeah Mary, you got short-changed" and laugh some more.
Yes hurt Me on purpose any way she could. Evan after her death, set Me up one last time.
I accept that NM hated ME. There was NO Love. I was the scapegoat.
This is my mother.
Wow! No wonder Mary N called me at work ten times a day....I was discipline and OF COURSE NEVER PROMOTED, “”brother K just like Wacko mother!!!!
by the way, a narc parent MAY be happy to have you succeed, BUT ONLY on THEIR terms. As long as you maintain THEIR life direction, THEIR values, etc, they may well be happy with it. When I merely started developing my own opinions, daddy-o went to bitch about it to his coworkers. How do I know? He told me. He told me, pensive-like, that his coworker told him he also has a daughter who's a problem. Then daddy-o told me what THAT daughter is like. Well, it was extremely unsettling and insulting to be compared to that. I was a university student who graduated magna cum laude, and was accepted to medschool. I had no legal troubles, no drugs, no drinking etc. There was nothing to reproach me, but he was bitching about me to coworkers that he himself qualified of being shit: he said he wouldnt sit to take a shit next to them.
So....I looked for your email address but couldn't find it. This is so crazy......Growing up I had the shit whipped out of me with a belt by my pops constantly, and laughed at and told the EXACT SAME things you just said. I was laughed at when I would cry to them to try and understand, I was told too many times to count that I would never amount to anything, they would tell me to get my things and leave at age of 10 on up. Ran away a bunch of times. One time my mom drove me to a psychiatric hospital and told them a ton of things that weren't true about me and admitted me in that place for months on end. One night I woke up to my roommate choking me and trying to kill me, and when I told my dad crying. He laughed and said I was lying and that I was a piece of shit good for nothing son. While ironically one of the first things he said in that visit right before I told him was that he loved me and that I was his number 1 son. Then laughed at me not 5 min later after I told him that. I went on to be homeless living on the streets for 13 years.......I hate to say it but after he passed. I sensed a HUGE sense of relief for some reason and at first felt completely guilty for feeling that. As time went on I came to understand why I felt that. I moved from another county....dropped my business I started out there to come help my mother take care of the property and make sure she wasn't lonely after my father passed. And slowly but surely months after moving in with her she is doing the same old things and saying the same ol crap they used to tell me when I was a child. Shit hurts.
You might be interested in Toxic Parents and Mothers Who Can't Love by Susan Forward and It's Not Your Fault by Beverly Engel
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A real "oh sh*t moment" it wasn't my brother who got put in jail because the girl looked old enough... It was that manipulating 12 year old who was experienced in lying.....🤪OMG... I'm feeling like I never want to speak to her again.. but I haven't in years..
But what if they r not that bad? What if they were not bad parents n raised u pretty good. Fed u clothed u sent u to good schools paid for ur college? This is so confusing.
Do they know that they are doing this???🤔
Yes. That's why they put on such good acts when any outsiders are watching them. They become instant saints. A wicked narc mother will become the Mom on Leave it to Beaver. I've seen it many times.
growing ! Yes Yes Yes ! This Vid, done it, it works , grey rock then as healing continues karma ( middle name ) then preventing hoover confront the Hoover prevent the Hoover when strong enough and know the “ book “ . It’s not inviting them in - - - It’s scaring them off w / their tails between their legs ! . . . Gotta do your homework W A R R I O R S ! Christine Williams here a Person that Genuinely Cares ! Love 💗 prayers prayers prayers 🙏 to you all . . . You got this Your Smart Keep Keep Keep listening to the Coaches and remember You All Matter . There is light sunshine trees breeze nature love futures to be heard & seen and it’s all waiting 4 you z ! What are you waiting for ?
Steven Kings"" MISERY"" in reality. no life at all.
Oh SHE PUT ON A FRONT OUT IN THE PUBLIC !! Everyone said Omg!! She’s your mother !! She is such a lovely woman!! Ewwww!! Sybil’s mother
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EVERYTHING is always someone else's fault!! You know how they say daughters tend to marry their fathers? I married my mother......took me 27 years of marriage to FINALLY see that!! And, AND....I WAS STARTING TO BECOME HER!!!!!🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️😳😳😳😳🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
My mother is 90 years old and I feel absolutely nothing for you .. She is So Evil and Rotten to the core! She abused me so badly in everyway possible.. I cannot trust women ever! I will never have a woman for a friend!! My mother I am sorry to say I Want ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH HER!! I am 55 years old and I HAVE SO MUCH FEAR TAKING CARE OF ME FINANCIALLY BECAUSE SHE CONTROLLED ME WITH MONEY.. She told me I was and am a terrible mother… She is cruel and Evil.. She abused my father her husband and beat him up and beat me up SO BAD I HAD TO WEAR LONG SKIRTS TO COVER MY BRUISES!! My sister is A SPIT AN IMAGE OF HER AND MY OTHER BROTHER… my father she told me to stay away from him you are bothering him.. The only love I got was from my other brother Timmy… My MOTHER MAKES ME SICK!! My father said inappropriate words to me but MY MOTHER IS THE MOTHER OF SYBIL ..
How about petitioning the whitehouse... and ACTUALLY have Laws drawn up against them, thier shitty little coward ways and thier ABUSE.. AND HAVE THEM ENACTED INTO LAW! so that for any future hideous emotional torture of thier victims along with parental abandonment aka: child stealing etc. Can AND WILL be taken before the court of Law so that they are EXPOSED 100% AND ARE FASTITIOUSLY AND LIBELY HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL EACH AND EVERYONE OF THIER ACTIONS? I THINK IT CAN BE DONE AND VERY WELL SHOULD BE DONE and held up to lawmakers as a form of Wanton domestic abuse and violence, Lawmakers ABSOLUTELY NEED TO RALLY A FEW OF THESE GENIOUS HUMANBEINGS HERE LIKE THIS GOOD WOMAN...AND DO SOME SERIOUS PENCILING AS TO THE SEVERITY OF THE DAMAGE THAT ALL OF THESE PSYCOTIC , WORTHLESS WASTES OF UNIVERSAL AIR THEY BREATH, PIECES OF CRAP ACTUALLY NEED TO BE PUNISHED SEVERELY FOR!
YOU better start those jail cells Gum Ball, and make them far and wide as small as the law will allow....because I am dead set on getting all these precious souls that have had to endure this terroristic form of abuse even for 1 minute or for a lifetime ...THE JUSTICE ,CLOSURE, AND THE RETRIBUTION TO BE MADE WHOLE AGAIN ....even if it takes the rest of my own life to do it..so HELP ME JESUS!
My X wife i meet in 2017 was absolutly this kind of person you talk about ,all her others husband was crasy and violent, her son at 38 years live home and his room was like a teenagers ,he work and bring money to this shit Mother, she use for personal things for herself ,it take me 3,5 years before discard her ,the best things i ever do ,she still control her son but the problem is he not understand anything ,i saw very often her rolling eyes and how she manipulate this son and nemt moment Kiss his chin..