Laws Broken: Home Alone
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Ever wonder if Kevin’s parents are guilty of child neglect? Curious if Kevin can really use all that force on the intruders? Want to know how long Harry and Marv would go to jail as the Wet Bandits?
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Summary from IMDB:
It is Christmas time and the McCallister family is preparing for a vacation in Paris, France. But the youngest in the family named Kevin got into a scuffle with his older brother Buzz and was sent to his room which is on the third floor of his house. Then, the next morning, while the rest of the family was in a rush to make it to the airport on time, they completely forgot about Kevin who now has the house all to himself. Being home alone was fun for Kevin, having a pizza all to himself, jumping on his parents' bed, and making a mess. Then, Kevin discovers about two burglars, Harry and Marv, about to rob his house on Christmas Eve. Kevin acts quickly by wiring his own house with makeshift booby traps to stop the burglars and to bring them to justice.
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When Kevin goes to the treehouse and cuts the line, it is still on his property so wouldn't that still apply to the castle defense law?
LegalEagle : If Kevin were to be accused of attempted murder (assuming his homemade traps are found to be unnecessarily deadly force outside of a stand your ground state) would this qualify as premeditated 1st degree because he neglected to notify the police and planned specific deadly injuries to specific intruders ahead of time? (i.e deadly force traps such as the paint cans, hot iron, cut rope, blow torch and even the hidden foot spike)
Can we also talk about the fact that when a mother calls and says her child is home alone, and the police went to check on the house, and get no response, shouldn't that be an indication that there's a problem, not that everything is fine??
The parents could sue the police for that. Claim the damages to kid's psyche through the ordeal caused by police negligence.
On top of this, the child abandonment charge on the parents would likely never stick for this reason. I doubt that Kevin was alone for 24-hours before the police were notified and they dropped the ball on the welfare check.
@@cameron4997 Contacting the police was certainly the right move on their part and considering most of the neighbors were gone as well as everyone in the family being on the trip, they weren't left many other options than the police. I'd assume the police would at least leave someone to monitor the home for the kid or check back in several times since a missing child is kind of a big deal. When the police failed to carry out their part, the parents would likely just get it noted on their record and told not to let it happen again.
Once it does kind of happen again for the sequel, they might get in a little more trouble though.
Not really it's the Chicago police
Talk about a kid having shotgun
Edited: judge me with all logic as possible
Kid: *breathes*
Legal eagle: so much about this is illegal
Kids are the worst. See my COPPA video.
Funny @@LegalEagle, very funny.
@@LegalEagle agreed
@@LegalEagle Are you dodging the biggest malpractice example in living history on purpose? Or are you dodging it because of your own dishonest politcal reasons displayed in past videos? The IG report just uncovered an FBI lawyer manufacturing evidence to obtain and continue a FISA warrant on a member of the Trumps staff. That is a huge deal and here you are making Home Alone critiques.
I mean he's not a lawyer in the case so he has no real obligation to cover it on a youtube video at any haste. He possibly could be doing the video right now but those take time. Especially if you are researching the law to cover it.
The very fact that he even brought light to the fact that Trump is possibly guilty of anything kinda sticks him closer to the liberal side if any. If that's what you trying to imply. Lawyers in general tend to be centralists if anything. They make enough money to be happy and most already do what they want to do, so they don't usually support republican beliefs. Some do, but probably not the majority.
Especially since most Lawyers know the law. This gives them a headstart into knowing why the system is built the way it is. Therefore the only time I ever hear of Lawyers committing things like tax fraud are when they are tied to people who also commit it openly. Just an example but I can probably go down a whole list of things Republicans openly break the law on.
Liberals these days seem to basically attack anyone who is even remotely neutral. Even other Liberals. When a Liberal makes me look like an alt right then that is probably time to real yourself out of your closeminded little crevice under that rock you living in.
"we know that you're in there, and that you're all alone"
A reasonable jury could agree that the child may feel immediately threatened by two adults seeking violent entry into a home in which they are alone, and excessive use of force may be the child's only means of survival. Thus, all actions taken by the 8-year old could be cleared in self-defense argument.
"Excessive use of force"?
It clearly wasn't enough.
Additionally, there is no way any court would expect an 8 year old to understand use of force.
@@Aqueox Exactly, it's very hard to argue that Kevin went too far when the bandits still caught him. Clearly this movie takes place in an alternate reality where people are much more resistant to physical injury, and Kevin's traps should be seen as less dangerous than they would be in the real world.
@@AqueoxYes, the robbers repeated and alarmingly reckless attacks on the home and safety of this child clearly show that they are an unreasonable force that can't be stopped with even extreme uses of force. They repeatedly recieved injuries that could've been fatal to a normal man and continue their invasion despite it all. It's clear that the only thing that would've stopped these men is death or incapacitation.
@@Daybreak6427Exactly, the law says a lot about how one can use deadly force only if they reason this or that... This child can't be expect to have an adults reasoning no matter how intelligent or skilled they are as an inventor. skill or intelligence is not equivalent to a matured mental state.
Also, don't call Buzz's actions "Harmless taunting."
The amount of bullying that Kevin receives from his siblings and family is a psychological nightmare. In fact, Kevin's behaviors could have been 100% attributed to his home life. I'd say the McCallisters are in need of some counseling.
grow up lmao
@@gotgunpowder Says someone who's clearly never been bullied. I envy your naivety.
Yeah, it’s no surprise he fantasized about maiming and torturing two bumbling idiots like this as he quickly descends into sociopathy.
Cinema Therapy.
Yup, Kevin was the victim of some serious emotional abuse
Kevin's main defense: He's 8.
Yeah, even if a prosecutor managed to get him convicted (IF it goes to trial at all, which is very unlikely), he's just going to get probation for a five year maximum.
And under severe mental and emotional strain.
Had this occured in Denmark, the police wouldnt have even been able to arrest him, for that reason.
This. He doesn’t have the mens rea to commit any crime at that age
In my country he wouldnt get sentenced at all since he is a child. Meaning he could even kill without getting sentenced.
OBJECTION! Kevin doesn’t technically leave his property. His treehouse and his yard is still a part of his property.
The neighbor's house isn't.
Aren't you that fire guy?
Castle law is generally about the building, not the property line.
The neighborhood is his kingdom
he also has the ability to retreat from the yard and call the police from the safety of his home which probably a jury would find, the problem is not that the yard is the property the problem is he left the safety of his home to engage aggressively
There has always been the argument that he didn’t call the police since he is first introduced to Harry as a police officer and could think he is a real officer and others could be just as bad.
Also the police in this movie are comically inept and portrayed as the worst service imaginable. I mean, the family called and reported a stranded child and they showed almost 0 interest.
Also, he did some inadvertent shoplifting, so he's scared of the police.
Also i don't know why people forget this, but he thinks he MADE HIS FAMILY DISAPPEAR. So he doesn't want cops showing up and taking him away because he's a kid all by himself who was also shoplifting earlier
He didn't call the police because the phone lines were down from the storm. This is why his parents couldn't call him from France. The guy repairing the telephone pole as they're leaving the house for the airport shouts that it's going to take the phone company multiple days to restore service.
@@FireMarshallStev true. I forgot about that but, since Kevin wasn't out there when the family left, he may not have known the lines were down, especially since we don't see him call the police until the end, maybe from the neighbors house.
I am not buying this argument.
Let's be fair, everything Kevin did at his age is still self defense against two criminals
A person has right to use a gun with someone bigger and stonger
I dunno it looks like he’s having fun
@@dorkydorgi5873 what needed to be explained here was the reasonable person standard as applied to an 8 year old
@@dorkydorgi5873 it doesnt really matter? First of all, people laugh in awkward or uncomfortable situations all the time, and also unreasonably find humor in not humorous situations, and then themselves not particularly know why they found anything funny. Second, hes a child, and 'what emotions should be felt when' isnt exactly a fully developed part of their personality, for example: kevin is overly terrified anytime he sees the old man, yet is celebrating when his entire family dissappears, which for about anyone with a fully developed brain, would likely not be the reactions given in those situations. Third, people who are licensed to use firearms dont always show fear when using them, in fact many people find joy and entertainment out of just the act of shooting guns or using weapons, even if not on people. The idea that someone who enjoys using weapons might find joy in using them for a real situation such as self defense against two robbers, however this is not the same as kevin never uses particularly fatal weapons on the bandits, so it could be seen similarly to someone enjoying using a bb gun on someone else, rather than someone using a firearm.
@@jc_art_ I made an observation 7 months ago and you made an essay on every reason my 8 word sentence was wrong
"Because everything is illegal." Wow, I think that's the most Lawyer thing you've ever said lol
It's not wrong. As a civil litigator I walk around and constantly think "that's a lawsuit" "that's a lawsuit" ""that guy is a walking lawsuit"
@@xger21 wow, can u ever relax?
@@circa81 He already is in his relaxed state lol
Thanks everyone, I've never had a commend liked this much
@@xger21 Wow, that must be...kind of annoying, knowing the law and seeing it being broken literally everywhere you look.
Objection: as a minor, Kevin should not be expected to accurately judge how much force is considered "reasonable" or distinguish deadly from non-deadly force.
When you're getting invaded, no force is too mucj.
@@wastelandlegocheem the law clearly disagrees. as do any sane person.
@@mikedalby2978 i'd rather live
@@wastelandlegocheem rather be judged by the twelve then carried by the six.
@@mikedalby2978 These burglars were making every continues effort to enter the property despite knowing that a minor was in there home alone. In my book this is a clear "kid get a real shut gun and aim for the face"
Kevin can never be charged for repeated attempted murder, because in HOME ALONE 2, he already knows that Harry and Marv are immortal.
But Harry and Marv were trying to kill him the whole time he was in New York! Plus, he tried asking for help from the hotel staff but the staff was too worried about the credit card theft to help him.
Felony child abandonment requires intent, the McAlisters were reckless, but they did not intentionally abandon Kevin. Perhaps there is a negligence charge which is more appropriate.
They also called the police who went to the house but Kevin hid so they have up
also, this happened in the 80s. i doubt laws were that strict back then. lol
“Kevin starts off by assaulting his brother over minor teasing” Are we charging every sibling ever for this
Everything is illegal. Everything.
He’s not saying to charge him, he’s saying that it is a crime. That’s the point of the video
If so, me and all of my siblings need lawyers. Also a parent who teaches us to use our words.
r/woosh
Yeah if that was charged there'd be a lot of child court cases...
The real crime is standing still as a blowtorch incinerates your scalp.
He's not, Kevin wedged him in the door.
It's invigorating.
@@marhawkman303 Bud you clearly didn't watch the movie then, he was just standing there while the head was set a blaze.
@@iatnehmaster8132 ablaze is one word.
@@calska140 that word...
I do not think it means what you think it means.
Fun fact! The picture of Buzz’s girlfriend is actually the directors son in a wig because they didn’t want to actually call a real girl ugly.
The real crimes are in the second movie where he goes out of his way to lure Harry and Marv into deathtraps in a renovated building. Plus all the identity theft.
Then there was Uncle Frank threatening to assault a minor. (Ie slap him silly)
@@ryanhoward3383thats more of an understandable thing though. He was recording him while he was in the shower. Assaulting a child is never good but it was probably more to get him out.
the real crime is the cops who should have done a better wellness check on Kevin
When Kevin commited identity theft?
@@Florentina-ox9xq When he checked in the hotel, he faked his voice on the phone and used his dads credit card, pretending to be an adult.
Prison Inmate: What you in for?
Kevin: Everything
It all started when someone ate my cheese pizza....
@@LegalEagle Honestly, i'd be traumatized for life too if someone ate my pizza. That assault was completely justified.
@@LegalEagle lol
Just wait until Home Alone 2.
@@mr.midgardville If Kevin couldn't eat anything else besides that pizza, then he could fear starving to death. His brother tried to slowly murder his brother!
"No, Kevin didn't make his family disappear, they abandoned him."
That was so brutal and hilarious I died laughing
Memento mori
...Unus...Annus..
But if he did, would it be illegal!
It was merely a matter of convenient coincidence, so as a kid, he would’ve likely believed his wish had come true. Lol
@@hannahbloom if the nineth lion ate the sun
I personally don't think Kevin deserves jail, not just because he is a child, but because I have always learned that defending yourself for your safety is always incredibly important.
Not if you live in a Duty to Retreat state.
@@TJ_Low dystopian existnece
Don't think Kevin can even go to juvenile detention at the age of 8 (think it's what, 10 minimum in Illinois?)
There's such a thing as proportional response. The burglers had no intent to kill the child until he did horrible things to them. He could genuinely have called the police to arrive just after they did.
@@seekingabsolution1907The movie mentions that the phone lines were downed by the storm.
Also I don't think he could call the police until the very end. An important plot point was the phone lines were down. When they left for the airport the repair person told the family it would take a few days to fix them. That's why Kevin's parents couldn't call him from Paris. At the very end he managed to call 911, but I don't think he could call them before that and tell them he saw burglars stalking his house and overhead them saying the were coming back that night.
If stealing from older brother counts as a felony, then i am pretty sure all prisons in the world would have a crowd crisis
In his defense: He had reason to assume that Buzz was no more. I guess US has some sort of laws about embezzling estate though, and maybe there are taxes to be paid too, but I'd guess Kevin could have just considered those to be his inheritance. Can't assume 8 year old to know how long it takes to pronounce missing person as dead :D
@@ulla7378 well, if buzz was missing more than 48 hours he could have been stated as dead
@@howiestillgamez5326 not nearly long enough. You are declared dead after 7 years
@@pws3rd170 wait.. oh sorry 48hrs to be delclared
missing
@@howiestillgamez5326 that sounds right, well for the average adult. For teens and kids there are different thresholds for being declared missing
Technically the zipline that leads from the house window outside actually leads to a tree house in the Kevin's backyard, which is still on the property of which Kevin's family owns and therefore the castle law permitting the use of deadly force is still technically in effect. Kevin may have left the home but he is still on what is legally considered to be his property.
Objection castle law only pertains to the inside of your actual house. If you’re outside your house even if you’re on your property
@@joshuanash6401 Except in the case of an out house or other such building that can be reasonably be considered as a dwelling. A dwelling being any structure that can provide shelter from the elements.
There also comes the issue that they were still pursuing him, him, not property or goods, him. That gives him self defense rights that are not exclusive to the property.
For example if I went out on the street and someone chases me, If I have a gun and they refuse to stop pursuing me I can legally use deadly force. The same concept applies here.
Illinois doesn't have castle doctrine
@@csmith9573 Illinois justifiable force provisions can be found in 720 ILCS 5/7. In Illinois, you may use justifiable force:
To defend yourself or another person;
To protect your dwelling; or
To protect your property.
That is castle doctrine
Luke Woodside its important to note the distinction that in many jurisdictions you have a “duty to retreat” before resorting to lethal force% meaning you must have exhausted all your options for evading direct confrontation before turning to meet your assailant. Furthermore self defense means you can use lesser or equal force to meet the threat. If a man us chasing you saying hes gonna beat your ass you cant turn around and shoot him unless he presents a weapon. States that do not have this stated in their laws make up the controversial “stand your ground” jurisdictions meaning any perceived threat can be met with lethal force (ie florida) regardless if the assailant is armed, on your property, or even started the confrontation.
The bigger question is what is Kevin's dad job to actually afford that huge house? My theory is that his dad is a mob boss and frank is his second in command
I always assumed it was just old money. Seems like that kind of neighborhood.
That's a long standing theory. Also why Marv and Harry targeted that house specifically. There's also a theory that Kevin grows up to be Jigsaw
He’s an accountant.
He works a high-paying white collar job in 1990. It's a big house in a rich Chicago suburb. This isn't a Prince of Luxembourg castle. I don't know how this became so bewildering to people on the internet over the past several years.
@@FireMarshallStev Was it really that easy to have such a big family merely working in accountant?
To that first point, I could say that they truly believed he was with them (or at least were unaware of him being missing) until they realized at which point they made every effort to get back as soon as possible and care for him until they could get back
Fun fact: They wanted Buzz's girlfriend look ugly but they didn't want to make anyone feel bad so they used the art director's son
um..i don't think that is buzz's sister. kevin and buzz are related by brothers and that "sister" is nowhere in their family picture
@@buffycatnip oops wrong word
@@buffycatnip Nobody said anything about their sister
@@Llamamanllama its edited he made a mistake
Oh Yh this is big brain time
Kevin’s family wasn’t just negligent, they were also emotionally abusive. If you REALLY listen/watch closely, you can see that his own family members just hate him and bully him when he wasn’t intending to be a brat. Especially his mother in the beginning, like damn woman! They write him like he’s supposed to be the brat, but in reality, if you pay close attention, he really doesn’t deserve all the neglect and bullying. It’s gotten so bad that I’d say cps would’ve been called on the parents, especially since NO ONE notices he was missing before they boarded the plane! They’ve definitely committed a crime with child neglect and abuse.
Exactly
Like at least double check the head count.
@@andrewliu8048 added 75 years ago to the name. The real time stamp on the right
Maybe it's just supposed to be from his perspective?
Nope in Illinois there is no charge for emotional abusive parenting mainly because there’s a grey point in between emotional abuse and correction so there is however a physical abuse charge but that doesn’t apply here
I would think that cutting Harry and Marv off the zipline would still be considered self defense due to the common law concept of curtilage (if I'm spelling that correctly). The Home isn't just the house, but a kind of nebulously defined area surrounding the home that is kind of conceptual. But the treehouse could be considered an extension of the home itself, into which he was driven. If, for instance, I were driven from my house and am driven to a tool shed, the totality of the circumstance might still allow the castle doctrine to apply if I use the hedge trimmers as a lethal weapon against my attackers. The same can be said of the treehouse.
Castle Law: includes the entire property
The kid could've shot them out of a neighbor's house and it'd still be a justified engagement.
Objection: Doesn't the treehouse on the property's lawn still count as "home" and still be under a "castle law" therefore letting kevin use deadly force to defend his dwelling "the treehouse"?
I'd add they were still in active pursuit of him, likely with intent to harm, by climbing along the rope to the tree house he just ran to. And I think the treehouse may still count because stuff like a covered front porch does or an attached garage. Until he cut the line I'd say it was an attached tree house, lol.
Plus, they were about 2 floors up, which would put their feet somewhere between 10 and 20 feet above the ground. They would have to land directly on top of their heads to cause any real injury, let alone death
Watching this feels like watching film theory, but more *Sophisticated*
Less Diet Coke jokes tho
That just a theory a comment theory
I'd love to see colab!
Suit and Tie Film Theory
No watching this is watching somebody over explain how to put cheese on a pizza
Goes into every single detail and they ramble on about 1 detail for hours
Objection;
You missed the potential for a charge of resisting arrest after stealing the toothbrush.
It would actually be fleeing and eluding an officer as opposed to resisting arrest.
Resisting arrest is when you fight an officer
Well he is 8 so
I was told to change my name So here
I have a feeling the guy who commented is from Europe, most jurisdictions over here treat fleeing the cops as a passive resistance, whereas what you think as resisting arrest would be called active resistance
IceHax ah ok thanks for the clarification
Technically this is self defense. Harry and Marv are actively pursuing him.
I think the judge/jury would let Kevin off entirely. Defense plus child mentality plus how it would play in the media.
And Kevin did try non-dangerous methods of scaring the bandits off; the mannequin dance party and the mobster movie with added sound effects. After both of those tricks failed, it was reasonable for Kevin to assume that Harry and Marv were determined to kill him and violent defense was necessary.
And Kevin would have witnesses to defend himself (Old Man Marley and Pigeon Lady)
Kevin steals a toothbrush: im a criminal
Kevin when he attempts to murder 2 guys with a shotgun, a blowtorch, and many various objects: this is fine
editing this comment to tell you one thing, i know its a bb gun, i just wanted to make a joke here.
Stealing was unnecessary, defending himself was.
Shotgun? That was a BB gun. A shotgun would have exploded Marv's head and probably shattered Kevin's shoulder.
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@Deon Denis yea plenty empty houses around,maybe they enjoyed the pain?
It’s self defense / home defense
"Kids Die Hard"
More proof that Die Hard IS a Christmas movie.
Who is saying it's not?
It literally ends with a Christmas carol.
In that case then Batman Returns was a Christmas movie too, along with Gremlins, Lethal Weapon 1 and Star Trek: Generations.
@@Amarganeitor im fine with that
For kids.
I've always thought of it that way... Most people watch "A Christmas Story" every year..... i watch Die Hard, and Lethal Weapon.
In the scene where Kevin nearly gets flattened by the work van, the scene was actually played in reverse so that Culkin would not actually be in danger of bodily harm. He walked backwards and the van was backed up the driveway during the filming.
To be fair, Kevin was a top tier house sitter, imagine if nobody was there
"Kids' Die Hard" is about the most succinct description of Home Alone that I've ever heard.
dk 109 right?! I was a little angry at myself for not realizing it.
There's actually a REAL kids' "Die Hard." It's called "Playing Dangerous." A Kevin McAllister knockoff actually fights terrorists. It was shot as a "hard-R" movie but edited down to PG-13.
There's also the "Baby geniuses" franchise.
I think "Toy Soldiers" (1991) or "Masterminds" (1997) also qualify better.
Underrated
If an 8 year old kid shoplifts a toothbrush, he probably really needs it.
Scoobarekt u I’m surprised he didn’t make a shiv with it
I'm fairly confident old man too slow to react probably told the cashier he'd cover it after Kevin left, explaining the situation and apologizing for the inconvenience anyways.
@@madestmadhatter Even if that was the case, Kevin still resisted arrest by running from the cop. It would probably be shrugged off if it was separate incident, but could be also added to his sentence.
Pretty sure that the situation would be dismissed completely. When the store manager found out the kid was mistakenly left at home, he would have shown up with a box of food and various essentials. And then been promptly killed by death traps.
@@Errol_cz Aren't minors considered incompentent? I don't think he'd be charged with resisting arrest
The only real crime that Kevin commited is is shoplifting the toothbrush.
A MASSIVE area where the rest of the family got off easy is the fact that the child was not only old enough but was also capable of taking care of themselves. If the child was the opposite the entire rest of the family would have been in a SHITSTORM of legal trouble.
His parents did contact the police when they realized he was missing. The police office checked the house but since Kevin was scared he never answered the door. Police office incorrectly concluded he wasn't home. If the police officer did find him. Tempory arrangements could have been made so that he was supervised until awaiting his parents return. The police bares some responsibility in his failings.
The police officer that checked the house should be in trouble because he knew that there was supposed to be a young child alone in the house and when nobody responded when he knocked he just left. What if something had happened to Kevin and he had been incapable of responding to the officer and due to that died? What kind of idiot just knocks on the door of a house that a little kid is likely to have been alone in for a decent amount of time and just leaves when nothing responds?
@@jedodom3056 To be fair, he shouldn't be in any sort of trouble. As evidenced on this channel the police can legally bomb your house to rubble and provide no recompense, so something this relatively minute would make no sense for them to bear responsibility for.
@@rocketrelm1125 It would still likely remove culpability (or at least mitigate) any charges leveled at the parents.
plus he's an officer, they are legit to teach children not to answer the door to anyone you don't know
They should’ve station a cop outside (in plain clothes so he doesn’t scare Kevin) to wait for him
You forgot Kevin's animal endangermant, when he sets Buzz's tarantula loose in the house, and then later sets the spider on the face of one of the Wet Bandits.
Good catch.
Animal endamgerment only applies to mammals and birds. Insects are objects
The charges Harry and Marv would face in the second movie:
1) Conspiracy
2) Unlawful flight to avoid persecution
3) Theft of a firearm
4) Attempted murder
5) Criminal trespassing
6) Grand larceny
3) There's no direct evidence of that. Assumption of this would be inadmissible.
@@AmyraCarter They are still convicted felons in unlawful possession of a firearm; regardless of whether they stole it from a law abiding citizen or obtained it from one of their criminal associates.
“Because everything is illegal.”
Gen Z: Your honor, I plead guilty for breathing. Give me the death sentence. Please.
*Distant sound of O'hare Air*
@@2Ws2Ls let it die, let it die, let it shrivel up and die
Is this accurate or is this accurate?
@@cheffries6066 probally
Millennials: am I a joke to you?
"Kevin is a criminal mastermind like Jigsaw and Martha Stuart"
That freaking killed me, which makes LegalEagle a murderer too.
That was smooth.
So he killed him?
LegalEagle wasn't kidding. _EVERYTHING_ is illegal.
I wish there will be a Kids die hard movie with the DIE HARD cast as children. (sorry for Piggybacking)
I remember when, in grade 6, my teacher made us do a group project where we had to rewrite Home Alone for another holiday. We had to do Easter. It was actually really good.
please tell me it involved crucifixion XD
@@SykoMuffin actually no
@@SykoMuffin That would be a pretty dark holiday movie. I remember the one guy in the first season of OZ getting crucified on the prisons gym floor by JK Simmons.
Objection the bandits put themselves at risk by entering the home after multiple chances to retreat. Kevin’s parents being negligent could also hold him blameless due to mental health issues from the trauma of waking up 8 years old abandoned and being left alone for approximately 3 days. He did retreat and multiple times the bandits continues persuit. Arguably self defense and no longer defense of the home. the bandits persue off the property after multiple chances they could have retreated themselves. The bandits offered absolutely no reason for him to believe they would stop Thier persuit. Also you didn’t mention the severe property damage from flooding the homes: there was 3 feet of water in the basement.
There’s also extreme emotional harm done to a minor.
And terrorizing a minor through threats on his person and life
And assault on a minor
As well as potentially kidnapping considering they hung him off the door and offered no chance for him to leave or run
Objection: Given his age he was significantly less physically able than the adult burglars, so even after he left the house he still didn't have an ability to safely retreat. Especially given the malice they've shown toward him personally.
You say that but _did you see what he does?_
They had also claimed multiple times that they had the intent to murder kevin
LuigiMaster285 he called the police in the movie, that’s why they arrived
They were also currently in pursuit of him in an attempt to cause serious bodily harm if not murder him, so him cutting them down actually goes along with him using possible deadly force to defend himself.
xFuzzzyGames they only wanted to hurt him after he tortured them
11:00 *OBJECTION*
Kevin DID “call the police” he did so from his neighbor’s house. The phone was not working in his house.
If the phone was not working, then how did he order pizza?
Phones were repaired after the parents had stopped trying to contact the house and started trying to get home. The criminally lax police force never called the McCalesters back to inform them they were unable to contact the child because they are supremely incompetent, so Kevin's family was unaware that they needed to keep trying to contact him and instead focused on returning home, the phone he called the cops on was in his home just up the stairs from where he spidered Harry and Marv.
@@madestmadhatter the phones weren't repaired.
the long distance lines were down while the local lines at the time were still active
it's understandable for a kid in such a situation to be wary of calling the police anyway given that they were already shown they're willing to impersonate the police and kids weren't/aren't taken seriously
if the uniform looks legitimate harry and marv very well could've said they were patroling the neighborhood because of the bandits and likely not been questioned about it
moreover, when then cops were called first they were dismissive, and the moment they got no response about a missing child left...a child calling and saying they need help at X location would've likely been met with the same stupid response (1 cop coming out, who knocks at the door of a frightened individual and then just..walks away)
and that's something that's ACTUALLY happened, women called the cops about an individual that broke into their home
the dispatcher told the caller to stay quiet and they'll dispatch
the cop knocked and then left (with no further investigation, including not checking the rear of the house that was reported to have been broken into)
the women were raped by said intruder
the courts found that the cops did nothing wrong
even back then it was well known police have no duty to do shit.
even when the courts issue restraining and protection orders whether or not they do anything is up to them and if they decide not to they're legally protected
don't gotta protect or react to people who call the police
don't gotta react to mass shootings
don't gotta enforce court protection/restraining orders
honestly our police force has no reason to exist, they've no legal obligation to do their job even when not doing it results in deaths
@@xilrondo2907 Where are you getting all that stuff from about police not having any duty to respond? That's nonsense.
@@sammykent5752 "protect" not respond.
DeShaney vs. Winnebago
Town of Castle Rock vs. Gonzales
Warren v. District of Columbia
the parkland shooting lawsuit that was thrown out because the officers had no duty to protect as students aren't considered "in custody"
yeah...it's not nonsense, the police have no legal obligation to protect you from anything, even if they swore their protection or were ordered to do so by a judge
Kevin’s “theft” from Buzz isn’t a case as Kevin is so young, he doesn’t know they forgot him, he thinks he made them disappear with his Christmas wish...therefore it’s not theft, it is “finders keepers” which is totally a legal term 😂
Plus, payback for all Buzz's shit!
It's funny how the mom didn't even think it was suspicious that a cop came to the house with out a cop car, to ask where they were going and how long they would be gone for
I assume them being rushed plus no sirens for a "friendly visit" would explain it.
Unless he was walking door to door, which is what I always thought he was doing given the way he talks about dealing with the neighbors
You saw how much stress she was under at the beginning what with making sure everybody was ready that night for their flight the next day and dealing with Kevin. I doubt any of that stuff even crossed her mind. It would have been the least of her concern.
LegalEagle: He has done assault, damage of property, and theft to his sibling.
Well I guess we would all be in jail
god insurance and murder, or is that just me?
Who tf would assault a sibling
Zen Ukko you’re telling me you’ve never, or have never seen someone on a movie or tv show hit their sibling before because they were mad at them?
Sir Shotty nope. Me too
Its very obvious that some people in this thread dont have siblings
Edit: I grew up in an ethnic family of 8 children in a rural town. If you didn't hit back, you were crushed.
LeagalEagle: says that Kevin and jigsaw are different people
theorists like me: nope, same person
I'm here for that cinematic universe.
Screen Rant and All time movies had a good videos about this theory.
But that just a theeeeeoory... a game theeeeeoooeortyy
Something something ambitious crossover
@@tackontitan I mean... A film theory!
You need to make a video of the second Home Alone film. Here’s some of the crimes that Kevin, his parents and the Wet Bandits committed:
Kevin- Stole his father’s cash and credit card via accident because he’s looking for batteries for his Talkboy. Committed credit card fraud for a hotel room. Destroyed a window of a toy store in order to stop a robbery committed by the Wet Bandits. Trespassed in a house under remodeling and construction left by his uncle and aunt. Even pinched a woman’s buttocks, so she can punch the Wet Bandits.
Kevin’s parents- the same you said in this video.
Wet Bandits- Escape from prison, robbery, owning a firearm. It’s illegal to own a firearm as a felon since Harry and Marv are felons. kidnapping, even attempted murder.
We could also add that Harry was driving the van when he almost hit Kevin. He could have received a citation and/or charges to reckless operation of a motor vehicle and potentially be charged with vehicular manslaughter had Kevin got hit.
Legal Eagle: one year probation for the parents
McCallister parents: hold my Home Alone 2
Ooooo Kevin commits identity theft
the real question is how did harry and marven get out in under a year for home alone 2.
brandy w. If i remember correctly they broke out of prison
@@brandyw.8034 they broke out after a prison riot
@@brandyw.8034 Home Alone 2 is set 2 years after the first one because in this one Kevin is 8 in Home Alone 2 he's 10
Objection - When Kevin cuts the line on the Wet bandits it is after the intimidation and threat of bodily harm, they are in close pursuit and as such add immediate mitigating circumstances of fear for ones life
Yup. And this is after shouting their intent to kill him several times throughout the night.
And even the duty to retreat can be easily argued against, especially since they still manage to catch up to him after all of his attempts, which include the use of potentially deadly force, that alone would indicate that he had tried all other options, after which he was only saved by the intervention of a local public servant. (note, I call him a public servant due to the fact that we see him salting the sidewalk, which I believe is the duty of the city, and thus him having that as his job makes him a public servant, as he is employed by the local government, could be wrong)
@@dragoncatgaming5481 Hence why his punishment was just cold pizza.
Plus in his yard, technically his property
@@babs2952 cold pizza is a prize thus showing that people are endorsing such psycopath like behavior
One thing just hit me--did Kevin's parents never get told about there being burglars while they were gone? If they did, how much would Kevin have admitted to in stopping them? Would he even admit to anything?
It's likely that the police would have told them something, not to mention that the neighbors who were robbed would say something and if any of them watch the local news, word would get around, right?
It raises a lot of questions.
@14:24 The pizza boy is not the only visitor who does this but it's downplayed in the finished cut. Both the airport minibus drivers and the policeman who goes to check on Kevin are seen handling the sculpture and have clearly also knocked it over with their vehicles. Would this reduce the pizza boy's liability if the sculpture is badly placed as to be regularly hit?
Yeah, but either way he’d still have to pay for damages.
No. It's called being a better driver lmao. If he wasn't haulin ass to the house like he clearly was, he would've missed the statue.
12:35 What, no mention of Marv screaming, "I'm gonna KILL this kid!" upon entering through the window? That sounds like cause to fear for one's life to me.
The issue with that is theres a burden of proof, no audio or cctv means it did not happen
dude its a movie what happens in the movie is treated as such
that charge would be dropped for lack of evidence
@@lukewoodside9420 I agree. Also, he wasn’t under immediate harm at first, so it can’t really be considered self defense.
@@lukewoodside9420 Then there's no video of what Kevin did either....case dismissed
*"Kevin is a criminal Mastermind"*
*Kevin:* _* shocked Pikachu face *_
*shocked Kevin McCallister face*
@@LegalEagle what about the Castle Doctrine? o_0
@@katanafourzeronine still doesn't give him.the right to boobytrap the house
@@alexthai5223 technically speaking he was putting deterrents due to hostiles planned assault on a known occupied property. If a group of hostile people lets say a militia was known to be coming to your house to assault while knowing you are home, then do you find it should be illegal to set up defenses to slow down the stronger and more deadly forces. The other question is did he know they were just there to steal or did he believe they were after his well-being which they actually were by the end of the film.
Note: I feel the area would do well to have more call 911 publicity, since it seems that they have not done a good job spreading trust to locals. Although there is the point that Alan probably would not want a policeman to come to the house while the house is booby trapped, but yes I feel calling the cops would be an important thing for Alan to do instead.
No he's not. Hes the good son.
It’s been years since I saw the movie, I can’t imagine Kevin would go to prison, he’s a minor and imagine the publicity. And real criminals were involved and the abandonment issue.
Remember the pissed off judge in “What’s Up Doc”? Can you imagine someone like him trying to unravel it all?
I think in a real life scenario, his parents wouldn’t get anything due to the fact they did contact police within 24 hours of the incident occurring, even tho the police didn’t do anything
LegalEagle: "Where I'll see you in court"
Me: Is that a theat
It's a promise.
@@LegalEagle Are you refering to gen. Kegame from Shake hands with the devil?
Wait, who’s the defendant and prosecutor?
@@rattheninja2877 Oh! I'll be the judge!
I knew it bernie...
You: Home alone
Me, an intellectual: Kids' Die Hard
I lol'ed. Great meme use.
@@LegalEagle do the Jim Carry Grinch . Laws brocken other then stealing Christmas . Like Male tampering
I think John Hughes was inspired to write what he described as "Straw Dogs for Kids"
@@osmosisjones4912 i think he'd have to get deeper into the whoville law system, which is a tiny city on a snowflake. very complicated.
Kevin was acting in self defense because they intended to kill him, not to mention the fact that he's 8 and alone. What was he supposed to do?
Hide and call 911...according to all local law enforcement. As if you start to dial 911 and the intruders stand by and wait for further instructions.
@@jamesordwayultralightpilot Because a 8 year old has the initiative to think like that or even understand the concept of Police and that you can do that. I must remind you, the parent should always be accompanying a child for a reason and neither do we give them any ability to make informed choices until at least 16 (again for obvious reasons). I'd accept that in regards to someone mature say a 25 year old did this whole ordeal and who would already have the capacity to make informed decisions and general awareness of the law and consequences. But not someone who hasn't even hit 10. It's considerably lucky for the family's sake that he even did as well as he did without them. Realistic circumstances they probably would hide anyway but can't say that for everyone.
@Emily do you have anything important to add? Or do you just like extrapolating the obvious to make yourself sound smart? I feel like my comment arose something inside of you to try and make a point. A point you failed to make, and you didn't even respond to what I said, so you didn't even make a good reply. I was simply saying that calling 911 does nothing to ensure your safety while your home is being invaded. And that Kevin reacted the only way he could if he wanted to live through this ordeal. 911 is a joke, for anyone who thinks 911 will save you from an assailant, it won't.
@@jamesordwayultralightpilot He did call 911. He just needed to catch them in the right place so they wouldn’t run.
@@emily1 I think a child calling the cops would make more sense then trying to murder them in the most insane ways
Many states allow the use of deadly force to protect your property at night in the case of a home break-in. Even if you live in a minority jurisdiction though, the power difference between Kevin and the criminals would almost certainly allow him to use deadly force in self-defense once they got into his house
Objection: After Marv entered the house through the window, he screamed "I'm gonna kill that kid!", loud and clear. In addition to being a highly illegal death threat, it gave Kevin every reason to fear for his life, and defend himself accordingly.
Objection (?): Weren’t they chasing him when he “retreated?” Doesn’t that justify his deadly force considering he was still in danger?
given that he is free to continue running away, no.
Mar Hawkman Is a child, he would get caught by them, so it's totally reasonable
@@gamerito100 I'm not so sure that's a given. Especially since he doesn't have to outrun them, just get to help.
@@marhawkman303 where would he get help tho? Isn't everyone in his neighborhood on vacation or asleep?
@@ericw.1620 call the police
You should do a video on "Home Alone 2: Lost in New York". One crime Kevin committed was credit card fraud.
Objection in Kevin's defense he was acting in self defense since the wet bandits were trying to rob and harm him
Exactly and he was only 8 years old
He was having fun he didn’t seem worried at all
Legally sure it might’ve been self defense but he wasn’t scared of them at all he gets joy out of it
@@dorkydorgi5873It’s a comedy not a drama. Of course he is gonna find it funny and everything is going to be over the top. Watching home alone is like watching looney tunes. If this dude wants to charge Kevin then he should also charge bugs bunny and the road runner.
Skull Fracture with Epidural Hematoma: Marv is Dead
Yes yes that meme is spreading.
Hehehe. I remember that video. Over a hundred ways the two were either so severely injured they were incapacitated or straight up dead.
@@stephenflint3640 i read that article too. A doctor assessing the movie
Ok house.
RIP Marv. :C
Objection: you stated that Kevin retreated when he left the house so it would be battery or attempted murder to cut the rope from the house to the tree house. However because the tree house was still on the property and Kevin was essentially trapped in the tree house on his own property with two criminals attempting to reach him with the intent to harm him. This would still be self defense.
Correct. The simple fact they pursued him on the line was grounds for him to believe he was still in danger
More Kevin taunting and baiting the wet bandits, to cut the rope.
That checks out with the castle doctrine.
Was he really trapped tho? The criminals were moving at what pace? Over what distance?
Castle Law is the entire fenced in property. If this were only the primary building, it would be a *_Keep Law._*
Objection to the very first charge of assault on to buzz : all siblings do fight so the same could be said for Kevin
Buzz and the other siblings show a pattern of bullying Kevin. It's not an equal playing field.
@@TheRealScooterGuy Yeah, Kevin is bullied by most of his family. Quite frankly I don’t see how he could live with them every day like that.
Discovered your content several days ago and can't stop watching. This is so entertaining and informative, especially for some who's from far far away and doesn't know how the law works in the US!
There’s a theory that Kevin grew up to BECOME Jig-Saw.
Pat Hutchison or Martha Stewart 😂
@@swissmediastuff naw thats too outlandish...although he would be able to afford transgender surgery
And Screen Rant just keeps milking it again and again: th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=screen+rant+jigsaw
11:03 To be fair, I think the main reason why he doesn't call the police is because he knows that Marv (I think it was Marv) was dressed up as an officer, and he might still think that he is an officer. And if he's an officer, calling the police, who might also be criminals, would create more problems then it helps solve.
Been a while but didn't they also cut the phone lines?
@@nicholaschisholm7018 no, the power was just down to the phone lines, but the repair men fixed it, it had nothing to do with Harry and Marv, it was just the power outage
Harry was impersonating an officer.
It was Harry, but yes.
@@revine9243 the outage happened 3 days ago in movie time.
I find it unlikely a DA's office would file charges, even if they did, it's even more unlikely a Jury would return a guilty verdict. On the one point about the line he cut. He retreated from the house but was being actively pursued by his attackers, therefore he could not retreat SAFELY, and took, what I think most reasonable people would agree to be the only action available to him to end the pursuit. Since the bandits had already declared an intention to kill, he would be justified in claiming he was in fear of his life if he were caught, thus I feel the cutting of the line is entirely justified.
As a non-lawyer, I think that kevin could argue that he only modified his house, and that it just so happened that the bandits injured themselves on said modifications.
Except that the “battle plan” document he drew up that shows his intent.
Objection: They were coming to kill him when he cut the rope. Self defense.
True.
Secondary objection: Castle law still applies because he was still in the (tree)house.
Second the motion: Kevin was still on private property. Depending on how Illinois state law is written, I propose that castle law should still apply given the circomstances.
Exactly. Most states apply the Castle doctrine to curtilage around the house.
Beat me to it. But you forgot to say Objection! Castle rules applies to the curtilage around the house.
Lol "Laws Broken: Santa Clause" should be next
THE Santa Clause?
@@godmagnus yup, where putting on a dead man's suit locks you into lifelong servitude.
MattyMag he can back out at anytime though, that’s the whole plot of the third movie
What, you never heard of the legal precedent 'you kill it, you bought it'?
I HATED the Santa Clause!
I’d love to see a behind the scenes video of how you do the legal research for these!
OBJECTION: 13:54 He can still use deadly force because his pursuers have indicated verbally and through action that they intend him deadly harm. Therefore cutting the path to him for self-proection would be justified.
(720 ILCS 5/7-1) (from Ch. 38, par. 7-1)
Sec. 7-1. Use of force in defense of person.
(a) A person is justified in the use of force against another when and to the extent that he reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or another against such other's imminent use of unlawful force. However, he is justified in the use of force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm only if he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or another, or the commission of a forcible felony.
Cutting the rope they are pursuing him on is justifiable because the justifiable belief of harm is reasonable given the scenes. Further, the degree of force could be justified in the context of inflicting enough harm to dissuade further pursuit, which for a person in the defendant's circumstances, would likely be justified in a court of law with a Jury.
*bows*
_"Everything is illegal"_
[Legal Eagle]
_"There is no such thing as innocence. Only degrees of guilt!"_
[Lord Inquisitor Karamazov]
hmm.. seems to be an attitude that comes with the job
Me: *reads quote* hmmm looks like a Warhammer 40K line.
*clicks more*
Oh
its not everything being illegal its preemptive punishment
I mean haven't you seen the books with laws in them? My lawyer has a wall that measures ~20' long, and 6' high dedicated to nothing but books with laws in them. He even jokes about how he has to replace them all the time, because the government changes the laws every year.
Well, as a ruler of a country, you would need to prevent any possible loopholes in laws that can cause a criminal to go free, the preventing of loopholes is actually what makes everything illegal.
Let alone that you would prefer to have citizens unable to overthrow you, so the only person who really is free to do most things without any legal reprocussions, is the ruler of the country. The Queen of England is technically the most powerful person alive because of that. She can literally have someone arrested in some countries because she doesnt like their face and have them executed. Ofcourse she doesnt do that, and there would be objections to it in practise, but legally speaking, she can kill about 1/6th of the human population without any punishment.(technically 100% of humanity if you include tourists)
Sounds Cardassian!
"Everything is Illegal"
- Legal Eagle, 2019
There’s hundreds of thousands of laws. What does that tell you? The government is literally shoving it in your face and telling you that they are trying to make you into a criminal, it’s all a trap.
well i was bummed that lighting firecrackers in a pot inside your own house was somehow illegal in illinois. mark that off my list of states to ever live in.
@@johnnyapplesmith and funny how school don't have mandatory law classes.
@@misakamikoto8785 Yeah they just send us cops once a year to tell us how drugs are bad lmao.
Objection Kevin was within his rights to protect his home with the stand your ground law.
Objection! Harry and Marv were still chasing Kevin when he was in the treehouse. He had no escape at that point and was still on the family property. So not only was Kevin within his legal right to use deadly force, it was the only option available to him at the time
The theory that Kevin's dad is involved with the mafia is my favorite
I saw that. I think it's a stretch.
@@LegalEagle assuming his dad is involved with the mafia, would that mean Kevin's whole family would be arrested since they know where the money comes from?
@@connorhilchie2779 It would depend on his level of involvement and their knowledge. Like if his wife knows he goes around extorting or killing, she could face charges, but it would be hard since she could just say she didn't know and refuse to testify.
Couldn't he be a successful doctor or business owner?
If he was Harry and Marv would’ve left the house well alone lol
Doesn't hold a candle to Home Alone 2, where he's not even defending his home. He lures the Wet Bandits into a Saw style murder warehouse he sets up while on vacation!
They call themselves "the sticky bandits" in the second movie.
GoneZombie doesn’t Kevin also drop a brick from super high up onto a bandit there? You know one of those things that, if they fall onto your head will probably kill you. One of those things so heavy that construction workers need to wear helmets, specifically so one of those doesn’t fall onto them an kill them?
That was just straight up attempted murder.
@@frankwest5388 he doesn't just drop one brick. He drops several.
Username445 Kevin McCallister started as a resourceful precocious child who defends his home on Christmas Eve graduating to a murderous, torturous, cold-blooded anti-hero in the sequel.
1.4 Bricks to Marv’s face
2. Marv gets stapled in the ass
3. Marv gets stapled in the balls and face
4. Harry slips off the fire escape landing on his neck
5. Marv falls face-first into the basement
6. Harry gets a case of heavy hand tools dumped on his head
7. Marv slips in the Monster Sap and slides into the shelves of paint, knocking over the whole shelf set on him
8. Marv gets electrocuted by the washtub
9. Harry’s head is set on fire and he attempts to douse it in the toilet filled with gasoline
10. Marv has a heavy bag of flour fall onto his head
11. Harry climbs up a partially disconnected ladder, falling face-first and crushing his fingers
12. Marv and Harry get hit by a sevenweight on the staircase send them flying in the air all the way back to the basement, before Kevin cuts it down and it falls onto their chests.
13. Harry and Marv get crushed up against the wall by a toolchest falling down from the top staircase.
14. Kevin lights the kerosene-soaked rope Harry and Marv are using to climb down from the third story causing them to fall all the way down to the concrete, catapulting wood varnish and/or varnish remover to come raining down upon them both.
I'd love to see one about Batman. Isn't him using a child as a sidekick child endangerment?
@@dextermorgan4490 isn’t he “dead” though
Are you going to do Home Alone 2? I really would love to see you evaluate that one too since more damage/harm is done in that one. Plus, The same parents possibly charged a second time? Not to mention Kevin is not home, but inside a hotel in New York where his victims were, besides the Sticky Bandits, some of the hotel employees.
Objection: the tree house was still on the property, therefore the zip line cutting incident still falls under castle law
Also the crooks were still actually chasing him.
Sapphire Clawe I was just saying that.
@@davidwallace7543 Sorry. But still. This lawyer is acting as a prosecutor and overreaching in certain ways. Including the fact that Kevin was still being pursued and therefore he was still in danger, the treehouse was still on Mccallister property, and the fact that Kevin actually shouldn't be tried at all at 8, means that there are problems with his issue. If anything, the parents should be charged with anything that Kevin would actually get charged with due to him learning these things as a result of their parenting. On a side note, someone get those parents a condom or 7.
Agreed
how is an 8 yr old given a "duty to retreat" when their are no neighbors, no money for a place to stay, and finally cant trust police due to Marv?
Remember that the "reasonably" thing changes since he's a child.
A jury could reasonably assume that Kevin didn't think cutting them down on that zipline would do much more than just delay them from catching him. Which was, of course, his intention.
So in other words, his wealthy father's lawyer could probably defend Kevin well enough that attempted homicide never sees the light of day.
And of course as you mentioned he's a child. He's not likely to get any significant sort of legal discipline even if he were found guilty.
I would’ve tried him as an adult. Made an example out of Kevin
@@illusioNery No
Plus their brain isn’t developed well, so they don’t have the same logic. Almost all of the charges against Kevin would’ve been dropped or lowered because it is reasonable to assume he was perceived things worse than they actually were.
@@pineforest1442 Naaah, that's just an excuse to take consequences off of someone. Throw the book at Kevin so it's made clear what justice actually looks like
He's 8 years old, in Illinois. Children under the age of 13 can't be incriminated. There will always be exceptions to this, like classmates planning and murdering another classmate, but Kevin 99% would not be an exception.
I love how he starts by saying that pointing out the crimes ruin the movie nostalgia for us. BRO THATS WHAT MAKES IT SO MUCH BETTER!
He didn't give a mention to Kevin scaring off the delivery boy by pretending to shoot at him.I'm pretty sure that's not good.
That's the one I wondered about
Objection: by the time Kevin has retreated to the tree house Harry has made clear he intends to do bodily harm to Kevin through his verbal statements and therefore Kevin is still within his rights to attempt to prevent them pursuing him.
It’s funny how everyone says Kevin should’ve called 911 instead of setting traps, but of course if he did just that, we wouldn’t have a movie
AND on top of that it probably wouldn't pan out well because the police wouldn't come instantly, so he would still be in danger while waiting for them.
Plus the phones lines are down plus he thought he might get into deep shit for stealing that toothbrush
What he really still should do is call the police, but have the traps ready
@@lollikabosso.w.n7153 he couldn’t because the phones weren’t working. However he could have tried to go to a neighbor’s house, but so many of them were traveling that there would be no guarantee that any house he went to would have anyone in it
He didn’t even have a phone 💀
Your Honor, Harry and Marv we're both so determined to rob the McAlester household, that not even what we would consider deadly force was going to dissuade them from robbing the defendant's home. And the boy was not able to differentiate the difference between deadly and non-deadly force. Nothing short of death or incapacitation would have stopped them from robbing the house. Thankfully incapacitation was able to occur, but only because an adult appeared before the two of them could begin to torture the boy for the simple act of defending his home.
There were some additional crimes not mentioned.
Uncle Frank and some of Kevin's siblings: Emotional abuse of Kevin.
The siblings are minors, so they probably get juvenile probation, but Uncle Frank and his wife still have something to answer for regarding the items they stole on board the aircraft.
The pizza guy: Hit and run. You know if he did it at Kevin's house, he did it elsewhere too. Better take paint scrapings from his car to see if they can be linked to any other cases.