peaches giggling every time someone defends themselves is like the high school bully snickering behind the teacher after misrepresenting you and getting you punished for it
Makes me think a lot about that drama that happen many years ago. Ironic that creepshow caught on yet she and everyone else fumble the bag so hard on an easy W.
I mean that whole situation with creepshowart most likely let her have all that clout get to her head bc of how much support she got. Crazy that she's now accusing someone else of being a clout chaser
The "There is no dirt on me because I answer to a righteous God" part made me laugh so much. Like, maybe I didn't pay attention in mass but I thought literally no one was without sin. He's like a kid trying to act tough.
@jaykemp2861 Gotcha. It's one of the most famous verses of the entire Bible. What fascinates me is how often it is referenced and simultaneously how frequently it is purposefully misrepresented. At least in my experience here in America. I assume parts of Europe, South America, Mexico & elsewhere Catholicism runs deep.
You'd think that a guy who constantly brings up how much older he is than people would be able to communicate more maturely and calmly instead of just screaming over Discord.
To people like him, he wants to pretend that a higher number means superior stats. He's a common quality drop in an RPG where rares are always better even with a 20 level difference.
This here tells me this video isn't worth watching, as it's going to sorely misrepresent everything as others have been. Lio already literally covered this.
@@nachgeben a comment with a decent chance to not be fully talking about something being directly said in the video is how you can tell the video isn't worth watching? that's not very good logic.
@@nachgeben The video you ignored is about Lago's experience with Lio with screenshots and audio examples. You're willing to listen to 4HOURS of Lio's video to get a grasp of what's going on but only listen to comments for others? Very bad sense of judgment. You might as well claim that everyone but Lio is lying.
I can't believe it's taken people this long to realize that Lio's "tough guy" act is cringe and disingenuous. Like yeah maybe a guy whos whole channel is yelling at 15 year olds for being stupid online and irresponsible "predator hunting" is actually not a good person.
His trademark Internet Tough Guy responses in text are even funnier. He legitimately sounds like the angry Navy Seal copypasta. Like, someone who actually thinks that acting like an angry threatening idiot online is scary or tough.
@@Nightman221k I think it's very telling he surrounds himself with teenagers, people who are struggling mentally, or 30-year-olds just as abusive as he is. They're easy to bully and actually take the dumb shit he says seriously. Anyone else would laugh in his face.
Yeah as someone whos been groomed it's REALLY fucking weird for a middle aged dude to have a gaggle of younger trauma victims surrounding him and calling him family. Thats like the exact thing my groomer did with me and the rest of his victims, had his own amino to isolate us and everything.
that clip of Peaches saying 'why are you interviewing the person you're in call with, just have fun shouting at them' really showed his hand. It was never about getting any information out of people, it was just about venting at people they didn't consider capable of having valid rebuttals. Which is playing with fire, especially in the world of allegations on thin evidence, and guilt by association. Lio unsettled me from the first Senate call I heard, and I tried a few- his black and white thinking combined with his superiority complex and aggravating swagger when trying to browbeat people is just plain awful. I'm trying to watch this through but Lio reminds me of a particular very toxic friend so strongly in these calls I'm constantly tempted to click off.
@@neddles33 Tbh Peaches always likes being dragged into everything when it comes to drama which is pretty pathetic and sad because he doesn’t know when to mind his own business or how to handle situations by himself
By the time the police arrive at Lio’s home they’re gonna come in there and arrest him also Peaches as well too Scotland Yard is also another police station in the United Kingdom that he will be also arrested as well
I always thought it was weird how Lio cut all ties with Lago because he accidentally followed an artist that drew feral and cub. Like how you going to ban Lago for a simply mistake but then let friends who have done much worse things slide? Something ain't adding up lol.
just be lucky he didn't actually draw one but rather he accidentally followed someone who is into the idea of fetish art of animals lol no offense, lago. you're cool.
Favoritism. Nobody is allowed to make a single mistake but also not allowed to call out him or his precious baby princess Peaches for their unending bs
People underestimate how easy it is to follow someone bad and have no idea. I followed someone on my alt once that rted smut of underage splatoon characters. I had no idea because I didn't check that account often.
nah bro lio saying "quadruple" how it would be for people to gossip about lago's ACTUAL BLOOD RELATED SISTER being sexually involved with him it's just fucking wild that's a grown ass man with a random woman he met online playing dollhouse lmfao so funny that peaches dropped his ass and made all sorts of accusations not too long after, so much for found family, ay?
It's so fucking bizarre. Lio's found family shit is so cringe and a little creepy. Why is this nearly 40 year old man with an actual wife "adopting" young afabs over the Internet? 💀
Thank you for mentioning this cuz there’s a HUGE difference in me sleeping with my blood sibling and sleeping with someone who is very close to me like that didn’t add up at all!!
I have a feeling there's some kind of personal displaced aggression with the guy that he projects on already problematic individuals to make his edginess sound more justifiable.
Crazy how much he hates being talked over, belittled, and made fun of when he's angry yet that's EXACTLY what he did in the Rosa Ray Ramsey call. Bar for bar, the epitome of a whiny hypocrite.
“I have to face a just, righteous god.” Ephesians 4:29 | Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. Yeah I wonder how that’s gonna go Lio.
Lios obsession with bombastic 80s cartoon heroes really shines through in his little 'speeches'. Between that and Eren's little giggles and immature commentary between just makes anh argument they make lose any credibility. They were never 'predator hunters' Lio claims to have sent 'proof' of things but no convictions happened because thats not how it works. For a guy who claims to be so busy with life he sure has a lot of time to spare bullying autistic furries for dumb things and treating them as badly as actual bonafide predators. Someone said here said he was a Temu MamaMax and theyre pretty close to right.
@@wrexvincent *Lio really needs to stop obsessing over drama and get off the internet to get a life and have his Senate stuff shut down and he needs to stop possessing over Peaches because he’s already a possession and a slave to his bullshit and Peaches needs go grow up and solve his own problems with a counselor*
Lio threatening to out a trans girl is not only cruel, but extremely dangerous. He acts like a slighted mob boss who will do everything in his power to ruin your life, if you don’t do exactly what he wants. Or maybe that’s just him “being a good Christian,” since there ain’t no love, like Christian hate. But what do I know, I’m just a queer bitter from being outed by ‘well-meaning allies.’ 🤷
Christian here, Lio doesn’t represent the Christian community as a whole, a very self-righteous minority is what he represents, terribly sorry about his behavior, we do not claim him or that minority
I can't stop cringing whenever Lio is trying to growl at you like an animal, what is wrong with him Also the more I learn about peaches the more insufferable she is, it's amazing to see the shift between this call where she feels confident and cocky and her apology where she pretends she has been hurting and abused the whole time as if she wasn't the abuser herself.
Peaches acting like he's a boohoo little victim when he has skeletons in his own closet 💀 next time I see peaches, he wouldn't be given any sort of mercy
@@donovanlocust1106 peaches goes by he/him That's literally the only thing I could respect him for in terms of his identity. Then again, it's kinda sus that he'd transition by the time he's in controversy hm..
I could never stomach him. But then I've been over 37 for a VERY long while. To me he sounds like somebody cosplaying (badly) a strict dad seeing a bad report card.
I always felt iffy about the way lio acted like some internet tough guy, but I still thought that at the end of the day he's doing good overall, even if I disagree with the specifics of how he went about it. I figured who cared if the way he talks is cringe if he helps deal with predators. Looking back on it I realize that not only did he do the same weird aggressive posturing to people who weren't predators, but were just involved in some drama, but that his attitude also hampers his ability to deal with situations appropriately. I really should have taken it as more of a red flag.
From the way lio treats his friends, he THINKS he is an angry strict dad to the people he talks to. Calling everyone his kids and stuff 😭😭 anytime someone considers themself a maternal figure to you RUN FOR THE HILLS
16:00 The foreshadowing of this statement to the behavior Eren (Hopeless Peaches) would have in the senate calls with Lio is genuinely disturbing. I know they’re referring to predators, but it’s clear Eren has this mindset in general with anyone he deems guilty imo. (Especially if you’ve watched the “Rosa” call).
@@pokeninjafireemblemYeah.. it seems like a lot of these creators end up being pretty bad people (not shocking however given how typical TH-cam drama works + the nature of this community).
@@SpaceySodaPopIt's sometimes said that those that try to make themselves out to be the most moral have the most skeletons. Making a career out of judging others generally ends with the person judging being just as bad because part of their judgment is an attempt to keep themselves from being too looked into
@@fluidwolfI also wouldn’t be surprised if ego, and image played a part in this. That these creators enjoy being seen as an authority figure, being “morally superior”, being seen as a victim, etc. And, as we’ve seen, they’ll exploit it for their own narratives. Even when the image they show is hypocritical to how they act. Like for example, Miss Zizi was apart of the FCK logs and was exposed for her inappropriate behavior towards the minors in there & tolerating inappropriate imagery shown to those minors. Yet, had a video publicity against the twitter artist stwawbwewymilk for making gross content of kids.
Lio holds other people accountable for even the smallest of reasons, yet takes no self accountability. Like when the Rosa call got leaked. He was like "I apologize but Peaches started it! And here are reasons why Peaches is horrible." Really? Really. He's throwing his own "adopted daughter" under the bus to dodge accountability. Insane.
People saying the senate got better. Meanwhile, lio is threatening to use a trans woman's parents to hate crime her in the background if she doesn't do what he wants. This man is disgusting, and I genuinely do not think that mister "do what I want or else I'll hurt you" should have the ability to claim he's on a different side than predators.
Lio gives me the "You wont like me when im angry" Ahh reaction. Bro's acting to sound tough is so bad its honestly giving me second hand embarrassment listening to the senate call.
Dude this 37 year old man going "SHUT it... I am speaking... 👿" has got to be the funniest thing ever. I literally could not stop laughing when I heard it LOLLL
that seems to be a pattern for him. someone who's watched more of his senate calls might say otherwise (god knows i haven't, he makes me PHYSICALLY rage) but he's done this in the past as well where he goes "this isn't a threat" and then lays out a way for a person to horrifically die or for something horrible to happen to them, in a tone like he wants it to happen
my god as soon as i heard lio putting on a mamamax impression, i could immediately realize what kind of drama ruined his reputation without knowing who he was
I wish this could pass already so I never have to hear Lio's sad little hero LARPs again. The senate never should have existed and randos aren't qualified to hunt predators. I know you said ages ago you weren't into bloodsports, it's why i subscribed cause at the time everyone was acting like it was the moral thing to do, to scream at people in discord calls
like obviously the only reason he partook in it was to take advantage of young and vulnerable trauma victims. but found family is an important thing for a lot of victims to heal and hold meaningful platonic bonds with people and create a healthy familial environment.
@@sillyspiderFound family is okay in an idealistic sense. Yes it’s okay to have close friendships. But under no circumstance should you be calling your close friends “Dad” that’s literally opening the door for you to be taken advantage of. I’m a victim of child SA and never would I ever allow myself to be in a situation like that,
I remember back in the Cloak and Dagger video when Lio stressed about people who lack qualifications dealing with predators shouldn't be doing so. He conveniently forgets to include his own lack of qualifications and consistent failure to send any predators to prison. The most he has ever done is release Discord calls screaming at people. Their definition of "holding others accountable" seems to amount to "making TH-cam videos on them" which is not how accountability works. I thoroughly regret being a fan of this guy and I'm disappointed in myself for not seeing it sooner.
See, the thing is... when we come across TH-camrs like Lio and Mamamax for that matter, they proclaimed they were fighting for the victims which I have realized much of their audience were. We wanted the victims to get the justice that we never got. That's what we fell for. Not them necessarily. We wanted to see those victims get justice. And we shouldn't be upset at ourselves for trusting them. We should be mad at them for preying on victims when they were not helping anyone but themselves.
Yeah I cringe at the fact I was a fan. I fell for his jobby of defending victims and thought he was making an difference. I feel stupid as shit :/ Once again I fell for an manipulator I didn't learn from my mistakes it seems in my judgement of character.
God does Lio sound like such a looser! Like putting on a show no matter what situation I’m hearing him in. How can anyone put out content like that and expect to be taken seriously?
@@PelinalDidNothingWrongA drama involving furries just ends up getting blown up a lot bigger than normal just because furries are involved. It'a kind of silly when you think about it
I hope you're okay LagoVirt. That call with Hopeless Peaches and Lio sounded really scary and I bet it sucked when you were in a state of pretty severe depression. It's really unfair for you especially when both Hopeless and Lio changed details of stuff to sway the conversation in their favor and you had to become their personal punching bag. Love your content D:
*Yeah dude LagoVirt I hope you’re ok I’m glad you’ve changed for the better and that’s good 🩵💙👍but the way Lio and Peaches treated you from that awful call in the past was pretty f*cked up you don’t deserve that kind of disrespect you have our support dude😎* *Also I like your commentary content LagoVirt keep up the good support you earn🩵💙🤍🖤❤️*
Lio talks like he expects people to grovel before him and say something to the effect of "oh, I'm sorry Alpha Master Daddy, uwu" or some shit Combined with all the Mamamax energy but without the Hotline Miami larping
Hopeless Peaches getting a redemption only to ruin it all , is so disappointing And Lio being a hunter only to us to find out he's just another a-hat who just got lucky with being the least evil of all the people be talked to
The way Lio talks about you owing him reminds me of the shitty way my stepfather guilt trips me. He’ll do something I didn’t ask for and then say “Don’t say I never did anything for you” every time. Months later if I, as an adult, stepped out of line, he would use the favors as leverage to make me feel like shit.
No genuinely I have so much to say about this it’s insane. I’ve been watching your channel basically since its inception as a person who used to be really involved in the furry community circa 2010ish and I know it’s pretty unlikely you’ll see this comment but I really REALLY want you to understand how much of a victim you are in this situation. No it’s not because of your depression or low self esteem, these people cornered you and verbally harmed you for what sounds like a REALLY long time. That’s not your fault, it’s theirs. I spent the majority of my time online outside of the furry community but very deep in the tumblr kinnie community from around 2012 to 2018. I can literally picture this “Senate” server so clearly in my brain because this is the exact type of voice calls I was a part of in deeply toxic kinnie servers back in the day. They functioned essentially as online cults where one or a few people would posit themselves as these online justice warriors who were out to “protect victims” but really all they did were force impossible standards on their “friends” as a way to control them. The second anyone did something to challenge them, or even just annoy them, they’d pull you into a call with 4 other people and straight up interrogate you over nothing for hours. Bring up all this type of shit; thinly veiled threats, insecurities, past “mistakes,” etc to wear you down until you agreed with whatever they said. This shit is calculated it’s not by accident or because of a fault you have, it’s an abuse tactic period. And I’m fucking sorry this god fearing man is HOW old? Nah. That’s the thing about people like this online who “”adopt”” victims of online abuse; they seek out people who have a known history of vulnerability to look to them as their “savior” solely to curate this fucking discord cult behavior. They don’t give a fuck about victims or their community, it’s a control thing. And frankly adding the whole “family” dynamic makes it weird as hell dude this guy is 1000000% a creep. You don’t fucking react to people saying “hey it’s weird that you use this verbiage given your age and power over these people” by going into crazy tantrum mode like that unless you legitimately have something to hide. The over defensiveness and aggression over nothing but speculation completely removed from this dude tells me a LOT about him. Most people would laugh something like that off and at most have a more serious discussion if they were being seriously harassed over it. Not corner some person into a discord call and threaten them for what sounds to me like hours? That’s crazy. The type of videos you make DO actually do justice to victims because you focus on the important things. You share who predators are, what to look out for, where to find them, who their friends are, and, most importantly, ridicule them and make clear that the community should disallow them from being present. You don’t make these people out to be cringe freak lolcows who we should dunk on endlessly. That just gives them more attention and by proxy enables them further. That’s how we ended up with Chris Chan. And you also don’t take the voyeristic approach to making everything about the details of the victims’ abuse either. Both of these methods only serve to inflate the ego of the storyteller, and brand themselves as the pinnacle of Morality, again, discord cult leader shit that is only performed by people who DEFINITELY have something to hide. It’s weird and gross and 100% not what you do at all. Sorry to go the fuck off but this shit made me so angry to listen to lmao. Someone tell this dude that 2017 sjw culture is over and to stop trying to run a discord cult. Also to maybe stop talking to people half his age and log off and contribute something important to the world rather than whatever the fuck all this is. Good lord. Cheers bro don’t let these fucking people get in your head.
Lio is Temu Mama Max. Period. Also, I'm at 33:53 & after all these years, I completely understand why Shannon bullied the shit out of Peaches. Alexa! Play "Insufferable" by the Manic Diaries
In hindsight, maybe allowing a 40 year old, toy obsessed furry with a found family kink and an anime hero complex-to hunt predators/take in people who needed support was a bad idea.
And he didn't get a single person arrested, didn't he also admit he has no idea how shit even works? The interview with the lawyer made it painfully clear how little he actually knows. Besides, someone with horrible anger management problems shouldn't be involved with vulnerable people of any kind. Guy sounds like he's a loser irl, so he tries to be a big guy on the internet. And to this day, some people fall for it.
I've had a bad experience with him. He was judging me with all his goons for a Twitter account I followed that I didn't even know I followed it was really weird and I have no idea where it came from. Dudes got the ego of a ringleader of a circus who is going into a profession of a lawyer
Honestly the tactic of “your likes/follows are public” isn’t even a bad tactic per se, Rev Says Desu uses it all the time. Difference is Rev uses it when someone’s acting high and mighty and he uses it to point out hypocrisy in a goofy way. Lio and his crew act like if you follow someone you are guilty by association of EVERYTHING they do or are interested in.
@@ShawnDarkhoofProductions Which is the wrong way to use it. The idea of “Your likes/follows are public” is a funny argument, not something where you look down upon someone. Unless you’re like following actual criminals but even then, following =/= endorsement.
i used to watch lio convoy a lot while drawing, because of it being longer form. and OH my god the times where hed get "super duper angry 👹👹👹😡😡😡" always made me have the worlds worst second hand embarrassment to the point i had to physically move around to skip it 😭😭 it was mentally taxing bro
I'm really kind of glad to see this video exist. You're content was pretty down to earth and still is, where you just kind of analyze and give your opinions on things. Then the weird coyote stuff happened and you got caught up with these guys and Cas War fox or whoever, it seemed so out of left field. In reality all that Lio and "The Senate" are, are a different flavor of the same thing they seek to kind of vilify in its own goofy way. They go aggro on anyone who isn't agreeing with them and put on this front of investigative objectivity, moral superiority, or in your case, just straight up aggression, to shove through that they are right about this or that. Its why they have to antagonize someone like you. You take a reasonable level headed approach that cant really be faulted unless you're fabricating reasons to fault it. There's nothing wrong with waiting for all the facts to make judgments or take actions, and anyone who views that as an issue has a stake in making sure you don't get all of them, or a stake in one particular outcome. At the end of it "The senate" is just another goofy ass reason to wear the righteous persona of being morally right in this cringe batman esq bullshit that pretends its in the right. In reality its people who personally get offended when you don't just take their side and they use it to pretend their offense against a person is morally correct and the fact you don't instantly side with them is morally wrong Either way I'm excited to see this video. I hope you can get away from this circus of nutcases who are quite literally the most goofy dramatic troupe of narcissists and make content that makes you happy and is stress free. Or whatever videos it is you wanna make. Good for you for standing up to what are essentially online internet wackjob bullies.
"They go aggro on anyone..." This usage of the term aggro just really tickled me. The idea that they're NPCs hit the spot like a good meal when you're famished.
I can not believe Casowarfox is cosplaying as a space cowboy femboy fox. You can not make this shit up. Benji really is the only one who came out of all this relatively fine.
When you first made a video about cutting ties with Lio, I considered that the beginning of the end. Looking at the comments in that vid, it was hilarious how people were picking up on Lio's weird hypocrisy and funny performative growling back then. The larp writing was on the wall.
"quadruple that, quadruple that hypothetical i made with your blood relative unto my larping family that pred hunts" 🤣 bro, lago's sister isn't doing any of this period let alone on public domain- bad comparison lmfao
Power to you man I would of made fun of Lio so fast when he did that rp tough guy talk, sounds like someone who heard a Elden Ring/Bloodborne NPC and thought it was the coolest shit ever
I hope all your future videos cross Peaches path In other news it's honestly insane how eye opening that video was for how Lio acts to the smallest amount of joking made at his expense. Or that if you're showing signs of submission he'll use vocal manipulation tactics in order to instill fear into you to get you to do what he wants. He strikes me as the type of person who would see that I agree with you, find my phone number, and attempt to get me fired with false allegations. Absolutely unhinged.
@SilverTriforce25 The "Video Essay," "Commentary", "Drama", & "Tea" communities, including all of their subsidiary niches, have extremely incestuous audiences. Not to mention J Aubrey is one of the most well known Essayists on the platform who comments on the Rich & Famous. Though his audience is vastly smaller Lago Virt's strength comes from the fact that he actually knows the majority of the people he talks about. Due to these factors I wouldn't be surprised to find a massive audience crossover.
45:00 what’s funny abt this is that fionna is shown as an adult in og adventure time (18-19 later on iirc? not including at: fionna and cake) so they cant even use the “she’s aged up” argument since she is seen at/above 18 years old in OG adventure time + is seen at/above 30 in fionna and cake
Damn, Lio really wanted you to know that the fact he wasn't yelling was supposed to be even scarier. Too bad he actually just sounds like he owns a fedora.
lio trying to imply that if lago didnt finish the sentence that he wasnt raised right is like saying "if you dont know the lyrics of cotton eye joe youre a bad person" not being familiar with a deep quote doesnt mean youre evil or stupid
So what I get from this video is two British furries embarassing themselves by not telling Lago the truth and instead insisting he knew it while he didn't. Man does one mistake without knowledge and suddenly he's a bad person with addition to others making things up about him. That's just petty.
As a former family mediator it is no surprise to me that Lio is a shitty person. People who think 'predator hunting' is some sort of cool vigilante work tend to be that. They don't care about the victims, they see what is going on and think 'how can this person's traumatic experience make me look good'. People who professionally work with child abuse cases are under a lot of psychological stress. Not because we are 'weak' but because we actually have to empathically engage with the victims.
Empathically engaging with the victims... That sounds easy enough. I mean, I would call the cops on the abuser in a heartbeat. But then again, maybe I'm being naive for immediately going for that, feeling like it'd be easy... IS it easy?
@mobileterrarian3653 Calling the cops is not empathically engaging. Mediators and other social/pedagogic workers have to support the victim emotionally, often for months, including when the victim does not want to go to the police. Some families we work with for years. Having to watch someone deteriorate emotionally despite doing your best is not something I would call easy.
That’s the commentary community for ya. One commentator will rise and fall before another comes to knock them down to claim their crown before they too suffer their victim’s fate when someone else does it to them. BlackBusterCritic despite my own issues with him (Mostly his cockiness rubbing me the wrong way) manages to escape it and he’s not apart of it. He did it to the slideshow community, did it to Rich and he could easily nail the entire art community in a few moves if he was still active. Perhaps he’d suffer a big L now but we won’t know because he never got caught in career ending controversies like Lio and Peaches. He’s just some former Blockbuster employee and he can win the battles without having to do much. In some cases like Rich, they go and seize the L in their own arrogance. Pit him against the Senate and he’ll be the surgeon operating them on the table because he’s not smelling his own farts like they are. He’ll be someone who could get under their skin with a few well-picked words and just to remind you, he’s just a regular retail employee working shifts yet he could out debate Youngblood91 in their discussion together.
What I find wild is that everyone joins these calls just to let him yell at them. Like, just ignore it and block. This guy is nothing but a bully and just gets a power trip. None of these conversations needed to be held for a public shaming cause that's all this is.
I don’t like that Lio and Peaches would rather bad cop the closest people they can find in their friends’ lists related to their problems instead of getting in contact with the actual people doing the things they’re angry with
Lio got together with a bunch of his buddies and made fun of me and my friends a long while back. To boot, he helped spread WILD misinformation about a project I was a part of. Never commented on it at the time, but y'know? I'd be lying if I said that seeing all of this come out now doesn't put a big ol' smile on my face. I hope everyone who collaborated with Lio to mock me and my coworkers is feeling some karmic embarrassment, for having ever sided with such a lowlife. I laughed all throughout this documentary, thank you for making my day. ♡
Peaches insisting you make videos for clout is unintentional projection on her part. SHE makes videos for clout, so YOU have to as well in her mind and there's no other reason, because she wouldn't make a video for any other reason. That's my speculation on her insisting that.
@@gummywormee41 Ah yes, "Pronouns is more important than this person's actions/wrong doing" Species No body cares btw, everyone refering Peaches as She because that's a female voice and her avatar doesn't even look like a boy to begin with
Hmm, let me think this over.... Hopeless Peaches deleted her channel, Lio did a video addressing the accusations....and he still makes videos.....something just doesnt seem to add up to all this drama? What is the missing piece?
guys benji isn't beating the werewolf milk in his cereal allegations
The pin of shame💀
@@X77__ nuh uh i asked him to pin it >:C
The pin of TRUTH
Ummm…….werewolf milk? 😳
... Milk in what context...?
Lio talks like a guy who posts those skeletons on motorcycles on facebook with the caption "the devil shivers when the nice guy gets angry"
I just threw up in my mouth
THAT'S LITERALLY MY YOUNGER COUSIN.
I read that as shiver me timbers. And nothing more
@@elivile. gift your cousin monster energy drink and a Oakley sunglass
He sounds like a lord Saladin rip off
peaches giggling every time someone defends themselves is like the high school bully snickering behind the teacher after misrepresenting you and getting you punished for it
Or the enabler snidely making snipes at you from afar.
Makes me think a lot about that drama that happen many years ago. Ironic that creepshow caught on yet she and everyone else fumble the bag so hard on an easy W.
or jack dohety and his bodyguards lol
Peaches is very immature when it comes to drama also tbh she can’t handle her emotions like a normal adult would that’s pretty sad
I mean that whole situation with creepshowart most likely let her have all that clout get to her head bc of how much support she got. Crazy that she's now accusing someone else of being a clout chaser
it's so funny that whenever lio is "mad" he puts on this "im not like other guys" voice
it reminds me of that meme "the devil shivers when a nice guy loses his temper..." lmao
He’s not like other girls
It's like he's trying to be Batman or something. If I was in that call I would be laughing my ass off
@@bnuuuyy Nah he's more like
"I may be a loser in real life but on Discord you're the loser"
He's channeling his inner MamaMax
Why does lio talk like thatttt. He is that odd anime kid you bully. Like he just odd as fuckkkk
and dude is 38 😭
@@flufibun LOL HES 38???? this stuff is so disappointing n gross coming from a near 40 year old
bro I was gonna comment the same thing 😭 He has a habit of asking people to complete quotes too as though its some epic monologue intro.
@@flufibun Yeah Lio really needs to grow up
FR!!!!! I bet he thinks he sounds hard as fuck the way he angry talks at people
The "There is no dirt on me because I answer to a righteous God" part made me laugh so much. Like, maybe I didn't pay attention in mass but I thought literally no one was without sin. He's like a kid trying to act tough.
"He without sin cast the first stone," isn't it? I'm a little rusty myself.
@@the_pseudo_nimprecisely
@@the_pseudo_nimThink there is a bit more words to it but that is the main idea
@@the_pseudo_nim In the translation I read it was "Whichever one of you has committed no sin may throw the first stone at her."
@jaykemp2861 Gotcha. It's one of the most famous verses of the entire Bible. What fascinates me is how often it is referenced and simultaneously how frequently it is purposefully misrepresented. At least in my experience here in America. I assume parts of Europe, South America, Mexico & elsewhere Catholicism runs deep.
Lio sounds so “you don’t wanna see me when i’m mad… 😈” when he’s probably a grown ass neck beard
Oh he definitely is lol
Well he’s 38 so yeah definitely.
He is definitely autistic
He always sound mad lol.
Lol have you seen it bros prolly got a birds nest in it lookin like boogie 2988
You'd think that a guy who constantly brings up how much older he is than people would be able to communicate more maturely and calmly instead of just screaming over Discord.
To people like him, he wants to pretend that a higher number means superior stats.
He's a common quality drop in an RPG where rares are always better even with a 20 level difference.
This here tells me this video isn't worth watching, as it's going to sorely misrepresent everything as others have been. Lio already literally covered this.
@@nachgeben what's misrepresented?
@@nachgeben a comment with a decent chance to not be fully talking about something being directly said in the video is how you can tell the video isn't worth watching? that's not very good logic.
@@nachgeben The video you ignored is about Lago's experience with Lio with screenshots and audio examples. You're willing to listen to 4HOURS of Lio's video to get a grasp of what's going on but only listen to comments for others? Very bad sense of judgment. You might as well claim that everyone but Lio is lying.
I can't believe it's taken people this long to realize that Lio's "tough guy" act is cringe and disingenuous. Like yeah maybe a guy whos whole channel is yelling at 15 year olds for being stupid online and irresponsible "predator hunting" is actually not a good person.
Yeah he’s not good enough
He’s furry mamamax
@@thesnailale truer words have never been spoken
His trademark Internet Tough Guy responses in text are even funnier. He legitimately sounds like the angry Navy Seal copypasta. Like, someone who actually thinks that acting like an angry threatening idiot online is scary or tough.
@@Nightman221k I think it's very telling he surrounds himself with teenagers, people who are struggling mentally, or 30-year-olds just as abusive as he is. They're easy to bully and actually take the dumb shit he says seriously. Anyone else would laugh in his face.
Yeah as someone whos been groomed it's REALLY fucking weird for a middle aged dude to have a gaggle of younger trauma victims surrounding him and calling him family. Thats like the exact thing my groomer did with me and the rest of his victims, had his own amino to isolate us and everything.
I have not been groomed but that “found family” thing is super weird and almost ever seems to just be platonic.
It’s literally Onision’s MO
Yeah it feels culty to me
that clip of Peaches saying 'why are you interviewing the person you're in call with, just have fun shouting at them' really showed his hand. It was never about getting any information out of people, it was just about venting at people they didn't consider capable of having valid rebuttals. Which is playing with fire, especially in the world of allegations on thin evidence, and guilt by association.
Lio unsettled me from the first Senate call I heard, and I tried a few- his black and white thinking combined with his superiority complex and aggravating swagger when trying to browbeat people is just plain awful. I'm trying to watch this through but Lio reminds me of a particular very toxic friend so strongly in these calls I'm constantly tempted to click off.
its rich peaches said that bc when u think abt his part in the rosa call.... oof ouch
His behavior is just disgusting
@@neddles33 Tbh Peaches always likes being dragged into everything when it comes to drama which is pretty pathetic and sad because he doesn’t know when to mind his own business or how to handle situations by himself
They’re all such hypocrites it’s unbelievable. Always going after people uninvolved and not the predators while spouting “we care about the victims”
That’s the story of the commentary community. Someone’s always going to go from being the hammer to being the nail.
By the time the police arrive at Lio’s home they’re gonna come in there and arrest him also Peaches as well too Scotland Yard is also another police station in the United Kingdom that he will be also arrested as well
HELP LIO LITERALLY SOUNDS LIKE JARVIS JOHNSON DOING A FUNNY VOICE IT EVEN SOUNDS LIKE THE VOICE BREAKS SOMETIMES AND IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE JARVIS HAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHA HE DOES SOUND LIKE JARVIS OMG i can't unhear it now😭
Don't drag Jarvis into this
"jarvis unshit my pants"
I always thought it was weird how Lio cut all ties with Lago because he accidentally followed an artist that drew feral and cub. Like how you going to ban Lago for a simply mistake but then let friends who have done much worse things slide? Something ain't adding up lol.
silly billy- lago doesn't have a cute anime girl as a persona! hope this helps
just be lucky he didn't actually draw one but rather he accidentally followed someone who is into the idea of fetish art of animals lol
no offense, lago. you're cool.
I thought it was more about allowing the Fox Mafia to go ham in Lago's server with some really gross/deliberate false accusations against Lio?
Favoritism. Nobody is allowed to make a single mistake but also not allowed to call out him or his precious baby princess Peaches for their unending bs
People underestimate how easy it is to follow someone bad and have no idea. I followed someone on my alt once that rted smut of underage splatoon characters. I had no idea because I didn't check that account often.
Lio is so cringey when he tries to act tough
love the saturday morning cartoon super villain voice lmao
More like a hot tempered angry tyrant so to speak
More like a petulant theater kid doing his best impression of a hot tempered angry tyrant
You can hear his cheeks flapping when he does it lmao
Honestly, he sounds like he's gonna go full murder hobo and announce he's backstabbing the party's bard.
God I hate the way he talks like a supervillain
Dollar Store Supervillan. 😅
Dollar Store Judge Dredd
He got his voice from Temu
This guy sounds like a character from the Town with no name
More like Solider Boy from The Boys.
nah bro lio saying "quadruple" how it would be for people to gossip about lago's ACTUAL BLOOD RELATED SISTER being sexually involved with him it's just fucking wild
that's a grown ass man with a random woman he met online playing dollhouse lmfao
so funny that peaches dropped his ass and made all sorts of accusations not too long after, so much for found family, ay?
It's so fucking bizarre. Lio's found family shit is so cringe and a little creepy. Why is this nearly 40 year old man with an actual wife "adopting" young afabs over the Internet? 💀
Was this before or after the FCK server exposé?
@@randomviewer391peaches "exposed" lio after the leaks, the call in the video is before those, i believe
Thank you for mentioning this cuz there’s a HUGE difference in me sleeping with my blood sibling and sleeping with someone who is very close to me like that didn’t add up at all!!
@@Denebula549 absolutely insane that he even compare the two, honestly
Lio sounds like the physical embodiment of
*teleports behind you* "Heh, nothing personnel, kid."
Lago honestly sounds so confused and like he just woke up during the whole call which is relatable as a fellow mentally ill
i love how the entire time in the lio lago call lio sounded like the "grrr dont talk to my pookie bear im the alpha" stereo type the whole time
Lio trying to sound like an edgy tough guy is so funny
Fr it's mad ridiculous. There's no way this man managed to change his ways when he acts like this at 40 years old
I have a feeling there's some kind of personal displaced aggression with the guy that he projects on already problematic individuals to make his edginess sound more justifiable.
You listen here buddy, You DONT want to see me ANGRY.
HES LITERALLY THE JOKER HELP
Crazy how much he hates being talked over, belittled, and made fun of when he's angry yet that's EXACTLY what he did in the Rosa Ray Ramsey call. Bar for bar, the epitome of a whiny hypocrite.
“I have to face a just, righteous god.”
Ephesians 4:29 | Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
Yeah I wonder how that’s gonna go Lio.
Bro is not gonna see the pearly gates
@@Lemoncakelover678it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for LioConvoy to enter the Kingdom of Heaven
Why is it that these Christians always hide behind God when they are bashing someone like" i can do whatever i want because god"
@ashyhusky4130 all for one I'm a Christian and I don't think Lios getting in because he's a furry 😂😂😂
Immediately wit the shade "British discord kitten" 💀 i love it.
benji how the fuck didn't you crack up when lio was grilling you, he talks like he's the main character of a shonen anime
I would've pissed myself tbh
Lios obsession with bombastic 80s cartoon heroes really shines through in his little 'speeches'. Between that and Eren's little giggles and immature commentary between just makes anh argument they make lose any credibility.
They were never 'predator hunters' Lio claims to have sent 'proof' of things but no convictions happened because thats not how it works.
For a guy who claims to be so busy with life he sure has a lot of time to spare bullying autistic furries for dumb things and treating them as badly as actual bonafide predators. Someone said here said he was a Temu MamaMax and theyre pretty close to right.
@@wrexvincent *Lio really needs to stop obsessing over drama and get off the internet to get a life and have his Senate stuff shut down and he needs to stop possessing over Peaches because he’s already a possession and a slave to his bullshit and Peaches needs go grow up and solve his own problems with a counselor*
Lio threatening to out a trans girl is not only cruel, but extremely dangerous. He acts like a slighted mob boss who will do everything in his power to ruin your life, if you don’t do exactly what he wants. Or maybe that’s just him “being a good Christian,” since there ain’t no love, like Christian hate. But what do I know, I’m just a queer bitter from being outed by ‘well-meaning allies.’ 🤷
Christian here, Lio doesn’t represent the Christian community as a whole, a very self-righteous minority is what he represents, terribly sorry about his behavior, we do not claim him or that minority
Yeah, if he's _so mature_ like he likes to say he would know the severity of that threat :/
Christians.... lol do the right thing.. haha
Lio deadass sounds like he's going to go Werewolf if you press him hard enough.
listening to Lio preach makes me age at a rapid pace
So, Lio's preaching has the exact same effect as The Grateful Dead?
fr like what the hell does him being a god fearing man have to do with anything he was talking about
@@mobileterrarian3653use ice to slow the effect
Being dragged through a temporal anomaly by the mere cadence of this man
I can't stop cringing whenever Lio is trying to growl at you like an animal, what is wrong with him
Also the more I learn about peaches the more insufferable she is, it's amazing to see the shift between this call where she feels confident and cocky and her apology where she pretends she has been hurting and abused the whole time as if she wasn't the abuser herself.
Lio and Peaches are both bad tempered, pompous, pathetic, selfish, childish and entitled tyrants
Peaches acting like he's a boohoo little victim when he has skeletons in his own closet 💀 next time I see peaches, he wouldn't be given any sort of mercy
@@princkleminckle1159you mean she?
@@donovanlocust1106 peaches goes by he/him
That's literally the only thing I could respect him for in terms of his identity.
Then again, it's kinda sus that he'd transition by the time he's in controversy hm..
@@princkleminckle1159 yeah , it seems way too convenient
im losing it at how cringe lio is oh my god, idk how i took his videos seriously when he sounds like a strict dad after seeing a bad report card 😭
I could never stomach him. But then I've been over 37 for a VERY long while. To me he sounds like somebody cosplaying (badly) a strict dad seeing a bad report card.
I always felt iffy about the way lio acted like some internet tough guy, but I still thought that at the end of the day he's doing good overall, even if I disagree with the specifics of how he went about it. I figured who cared if the way he talks is cringe if he helps deal with predators. Looking back on it I realize that not only did he do the same weird aggressive posturing to people who weren't predators, but were just involved in some drama, but that his attitude also hampers his ability to deal with situations appropriately. I really should have taken it as more of a red flag.
Because Lio forgot to take his blood pressure medicine for his anger management
@@jojo-7306You should honestly never listen to Predator hunt groups there always go after innocent people and turn out to be predators themselves
From the way lio treats his friends, he THINKS he is an angry strict dad to the people he talks to. Calling everyone his kids and stuff 😭😭 anytime someone considers themself a maternal figure to you RUN FOR THE HILLS
16:00 The foreshadowing of this statement to the behavior Eren (Hopeless Peaches) would have in the senate calls with Lio is genuinely disturbing.
I know they’re referring to predators, but it’s clear Eren has this mindset in general with anyone he deems guilty imo. (Especially if you’ve watched the “Rosa” call).
Honestly, i think there's something in the water for the ACC, since they all seem to be some sort of deranged
@@pokeninjafireemblemYeah.. it seems like a lot of these creators end up being pretty bad people (not shocking however given how typical TH-cam drama works + the nature of this community).
@@SpaceySodaPopIt's sometimes said that those that try to make themselves out to be the most moral have the most skeletons.
Making a career out of judging others generally ends with the person judging being just as bad because part of their judgment is an attempt to keep themselves from being too looked into
@@fluidwolfDefinitely
@@fluidwolfI also wouldn’t be surprised if ego, and image played a part in this. That these creators enjoy being seen as an authority figure, being “morally superior”, being seen as a victim, etc. And, as we’ve seen, they’ll exploit it for their own narratives. Even when the image they show is hypocritical to how they act.
Like for example, Miss Zizi was apart of the FCK logs and was exposed for her inappropriate behavior towards the minors in there & tolerating inappropriate imagery shown to those minors. Yet, had a video publicity against the twitter artist stwawbwewymilk for making gross content of kids.
Lio sounds like he’s friends with Drake and Dream when he’s angry.
Dream is innocent my goodness
@@Kingbeat1That isn't gonna stop being from being assholes about him because they hate him. Sadly
he sounds like he thinks he's the main character. really though he was gonna do the whole angry werewolf thing
@@Kingbeat1Innocent yes. Does that mean he's *not* a fucking joke? No. He's an asshole
I was going to say Johnathan Ross. Grim shit either way.
Lio holds other people accountable for even the smallest of reasons, yet takes no self accountability. Like when the Rosa call got leaked. He was like "I apologize but Peaches started it! And here are reasons why Peaches is horrible."
Really? Really. He's throwing his own "adopted daughter" under the bus to dodge accountability. Insane.
I think there was a comment on how accountability was like a Uroboros or something like that, but it was in a now deleted vid Lio made, so... yeah.
People saying the senate got better.
Meanwhile, lio is threatening to use a trans woman's parents to hate crime her in the background if she doesn't do what he wants.
This man is disgusting, and I genuinely do not think that mister "do what I want or else I'll hurt you" should have the ability to claim he's on a different side than predators.
blackmailing a Trans person could have devastating consequences.. whoever this Lio guy is seems like a "nice" guy
Lio gives me the "You wont like me when im angry" Ahh reaction. Bro's acting to sound tough is so bad its honestly giving me second hand embarrassment listening to the senate call.
It's like he didn't get the memo that when you talk and act like that you don't get respect, you get made fun of 😂
"im so mad im not yelling" bro sounds like hes larping his edgy dnd character lmao
Not yelling when you're mad is also this thing called self control, another concept I'm sure he's familiar with /s
Dude this 37 year old man going "SHUT it... I am speaking... 👿" has got to be the funniest thing ever. I literally could not stop laughing when I heard it LOLLL
@@PinkRoseRevolution Not only is he rude he’s also very chauvinistic and hostile towards people who look up to him but Lio takes it for granted
"this is not a threat" - proceeds to threaten someone
Nice Lio. Nice.
that seems to be a pattern for him. someone who's watched more of his senate calls might say otherwise (god knows i haven't, he makes me PHYSICALLY rage) but he's done this in the past as well where he goes "this isn't a threat" and then lays out a way for a person to horrifically die or for something horrible to happen to them, in a tone like he wants it to happen
lio just sounds like a middle schooler in great wolf lodge ears trying to be scary by "wolfing out" lmao
@@m0onshine_art He sounds like he’s throwing a tantrum so to speak
my god as soon as i heard lio putting on a mamamax impression, i could immediately realize what kind of drama ruined his reputation without knowing who he was
I wish this could pass already so I never have to hear Lio's sad little hero LARPs again. The senate never should have existed and randos aren't qualified to hunt predators. I know you said ages ago you weren't into bloodsports, it's why i subscribed cause at the time everyone was acting like it was the moral thing to do, to scream at people in discord calls
Lio is 40 year old who acts like a child and actively on discords chilling with minors. Let that sink in
*Lio really needs to grow up*
Two grown adults roleplaying a Daddy-Daughter relationship getting offended that people think its weird
*It’s also creepy and predatory in that way that Lio and Peaches are like this*
there's nothing wrong with found family?? sexualising that stuff is weird and doesn't make you the better person???? ew.
like obviously the only reason he partook in it was to take advantage of young and vulnerable trauma victims. but found family is an important thing for a lot of victims to heal and hold meaningful platonic bonds with people and create a healthy familial environment.
@@sillyspider There's a lot of Red Flags on the "Found Family"
@@sillyspiderFound family is okay in an idealistic sense. Yes it’s okay to have close friendships. But under no circumstance should you be calling your close friends “Dad” that’s literally opening the door for you to be taken advantage of. I’m a victim of child SA and never would I ever allow myself to be in a situation like that,
Lio talking like a tough guy and then peaches baby-talking is sending me. I almost couldn't handle listening her say "Fee-fees" over and over.
Ok but the gameplay footage over the call audio makes it look like you were just trying to be gamin during the call and I'm all here for it
16:03 "you can be mean to it. Bully it. Have fun." omfg I`ts like foreshadowing to the Rosa call.
I remember back in the Cloak and Dagger video when Lio stressed about people who lack qualifications dealing with predators shouldn't be doing so. He conveniently forgets to include his own lack of qualifications and consistent failure to send any predators to prison.
The most he has ever done is release Discord calls screaming at people. Their definition of "holding others accountable" seems to amount to "making TH-cam videos on them" which is not how accountability works.
I thoroughly regret being a fan of this guy and I'm disappointed in myself for not seeing it sooner.
See, the thing is... when we come across TH-camrs like Lio and Mamamax for that matter, they proclaimed they were fighting for the victims which I have realized much of their audience were. We wanted the victims to get the justice that we never got. That's what we fell for. Not them necessarily. We wanted to see those victims get justice. And we shouldn't be upset at ourselves for trusting them. We should be mad at them for preying on victims when they were not helping anyone but themselves.
Yeah I cringe at the fact I was a fan. I fell for his jobby of defending victims and thought he was making an difference. I feel stupid as shit :/ Once again I fell for an manipulator I didn't learn from my mistakes it seems in my judgement of character.
God does Lio sound like such a looser! Like putting on a show no matter what situation I’m hearing him in. How can anyone put out content like that and expect to be taken seriously?
He is one a loser, a lowlife and a hot tempered guy that forgot to take his meds
He got so angry he decided to impersonate the joker. “You want to know how I got these scars” ass voice
Ngl, falling out of furry fandom a few years ago was one of the best things that happened with my life.
Same
I chose to stay. The drama is definitely overblown though
@@PelinalDidNothingWrongA drama involving furries just ends up getting blown up a lot bigger than normal just because furries are involved. It'a kind of silly when you think about it
same
Same here
I hope you're okay LagoVirt. That call with Hopeless Peaches and Lio sounded really scary and I bet it sucked when you were in a state of pretty severe depression. It's really unfair for you especially when both Hopeless and Lio changed details of stuff to sway the conversation in their favor and you had to become their personal punching bag.
Love your content D:
*Yeah dude LagoVirt I hope you’re ok I’m glad you’ve changed for the better and that’s good 🩵💙👍but the way Lio and Peaches treated you from that awful call in the past was pretty f*cked up you don’t deserve that kind of disrespect you have our support dude😎*
*Also I like your commentary content LagoVirt keep up the good support you earn🩵💙🤍🖤❤️*
I like that a lot of the comments is just people roasting Lio when he gets mad and tries to act serious
Peaches is actually insufferable
I totally agree Peaches is entitled, spoiled, immature, a liar, rude and a bully that needs to grow up
lmao at lio attempting to act tough. Oh no! They angry guy on the internet is gonna get me!
Considering how unhinged and frankly moronic Lio sounds, anyone else worried about his involvement with the StarGiant Productions case?
What? Lio does not need to get involved in at all!
@@leileyaravencroft too late sadly.
Thankfully Enter got rid of him and in a recent video called him and Peaches for ruining the chance of getting Star Giant done for her bs.
Lio "I gotta bone to pick with you 👿" Convoy
That call with lio accusing you of discord adoptive family incest rumors is the funniest thing ive ever fucking heard in my entire life
Can’t take a man like lil seriously. He’s got neck beard and edgy Xbox live user energy
Well said
It's completely impotent anger, wouldn't be surprised if Lio was 120 pounds sopping wet
@@pokeninjafireemblemiirc he's a bit more on the heavyset side.
We’re escaping the senate with this one bois 🗣️💨
Lio talks like he expects people to grovel before him and say something to the effect of "oh, I'm sorry Alpha Master Daddy, uwu" or some shit
Combined with all the Mamamax energy but without the Hotline Miami larping
Hopeless Peaches getting a redemption only to ruin it all , is so disappointing
And Lio being a hunter only to us to find out he's just another a-hat who just got lucky with being the least evil of all the people be talked to
The way Lio talks about you owing him reminds me of the shitty way my stepfather guilt trips me. He’ll do something I didn’t ask for and then say “Don’t say I never did anything for you” every time. Months later if I, as an adult, stepped out of line, he would use the favors as leverage to make me feel like shit.
No genuinely I have so much to say about this it’s insane. I’ve been watching your channel basically since its inception as a person who used to be really involved in the furry community circa 2010ish and I know it’s pretty unlikely you’ll see this comment but I really REALLY want you to understand how much of a victim you are in this situation. No it’s not because of your depression or low self esteem, these people cornered you and verbally harmed you for what sounds like a REALLY long time. That’s not your fault, it’s theirs.
I spent the majority of my time online outside of the furry community but very deep in the tumblr kinnie community from around 2012 to 2018. I can literally picture this “Senate” server so clearly in my brain because this is the exact type of voice calls I was a part of in deeply toxic kinnie servers back in the day. They functioned essentially as online cults where one or a few people would posit themselves as these online justice warriors who were out to “protect victims” but really all they did were force impossible standards on their “friends” as a way to control them. The second anyone did something to challenge them, or even just annoy them, they’d pull you into a call with 4 other people and straight up interrogate you over nothing for hours. Bring up all this type of shit; thinly veiled threats, insecurities, past “mistakes,” etc to wear you down until you agreed with whatever they said. This shit is calculated it’s not by accident or because of a fault you have, it’s an abuse tactic period.
And I’m fucking sorry this god fearing man is HOW old? Nah. That’s the thing about people like this online who “”adopt”” victims of online abuse; they seek out people who have a known history of vulnerability to look to them as their “savior” solely to curate this fucking discord cult behavior. They don’t give a fuck about victims or their community, it’s a control thing. And frankly adding the whole “family” dynamic makes it weird as hell dude this guy is 1000000% a creep. You don’t fucking react to people saying “hey it’s weird that you use this verbiage given your age and power over these people” by going into crazy tantrum mode like that unless you legitimately have something to hide. The over defensiveness and aggression over nothing but speculation completely removed from this dude tells me a LOT about him. Most people would laugh something like that off and at most have a more serious discussion if they were being seriously harassed over it. Not corner some person into a discord call and threaten them for what sounds to me like hours? That’s crazy.
The type of videos you make DO actually do justice to victims because you focus on the important things. You share who predators are, what to look out for, where to find them, who their friends are, and, most importantly, ridicule them and make clear that the community should disallow them from being present. You don’t make these people out to be cringe freak lolcows who we should dunk on endlessly. That just gives them more attention and by proxy enables them further. That’s how we ended up with Chris Chan. And you also don’t take the voyeristic approach to making everything about the details of the victims’ abuse either. Both of these methods only serve to inflate the ego of the storyteller, and brand themselves as the pinnacle of Morality, again, discord cult leader shit that is only performed by people who DEFINITELY have something to hide. It’s weird and gross and 100% not what you do at all.
Sorry to go the fuck off but this shit made me so angry to listen to lmao. Someone tell this dude that 2017 sjw culture is over and to stop trying to run a discord cult. Also to maybe stop talking to people half his age and log off and contribute something important to the world rather than whatever the fuck all this is. Good lord. Cheers bro don’t let these fucking people get in your head.
Missed a chance to call Lio's feelings 'feefees' at the end there :o)
Lio is Temu Mama Max. Period. Also, I'm at 33:53 & after all these years, I completely understand why Shannon bullied the shit out of Peaches.
Alexa! Play "Insufferable" by the Manic Diaries
ugh she truly is the woooOOorstttt.
she is the fukcin worst
"Temu mama max" 😂 i love that
In hindsight, maybe allowing a 40 year old, toy obsessed furry with a found family kink and an anime hero complex-to hunt predators/take in people who needed support was a bad idea.
Isn't he 37?
@@froggyringu 38 actually. But close enough.
@@SparDanger Then we on the other side of 40 don't claim him yet. XD;
@@froggyringu I don't blame you one bit.
And he didn't get a single person arrested, didn't he also admit he has no idea how shit even works? The interview with the lawyer made it painfully clear how little he actually knows. Besides, someone with horrible anger management problems shouldn't be involved with vulnerable people of any kind. Guy sounds like he's a loser irl, so he tries to be a big guy on the internet. And to this day, some people fall for it.
I've had a bad experience with him. He was judging me with all his goons for a Twitter account I followed that I didn't even know I followed it was really weird and I have no idea where it came from. Dudes got the ego of a ringleader of a circus who is going into a profession of a lawyer
Honestly the tactic of “your likes/follows are public” isn’t even a bad tactic per se, Rev Says Desu uses it all the time. Difference is Rev uses it when someone’s acting high and mighty and he uses it to point out hypocrisy in a goofy way. Lio and his crew act like if you follow someone you are guilty by association of EVERYTHING they do or are interested in.
@@lord_boneman he was using it against me to prove I was wrong or to show he was better than me
@@ShawnDarkhoofProductions Which is the wrong way to use it. The idea of “Your likes/follows are public” is a funny argument, not something where you look down upon someone. Unless you’re like following actual criminals but even then, following =/= endorsement.
@@lord_boneman god no I'm not following edp or miniladd xD well I mean I am following mini but only for the drama really
i used to watch lio convoy a lot while drawing, because of it being longer form. and OH my god the times where hed get "super duper angry 👹👹👹😡😡😡" always made me have the worlds worst second hand embarrassment to the point i had to physically move around to skip it 😭😭 it was mentally taxing bro
I'm really kind of glad to see this video exist. You're content was pretty down to earth and still is, where you just kind of analyze and give your opinions on things. Then the weird coyote stuff happened and you got caught up with these guys and Cas War fox or whoever, it seemed so out of left field.
In reality all that Lio and "The Senate" are, are a different flavor of the same thing they seek to kind of vilify in its own goofy way. They go aggro on anyone who isn't agreeing with them and put on this front of investigative objectivity, moral superiority, or in your case, just straight up aggression, to shove through that they are right about this or that. Its why they have to antagonize someone like you. You take a reasonable level headed approach that cant really be faulted unless you're fabricating reasons to fault it.
There's nothing wrong with waiting for all the facts to make judgments or take actions, and anyone who views that as an issue has a stake in making sure you don't get all of them, or a stake in one particular outcome.
At the end of it "The senate" is just another goofy ass reason to wear the righteous persona of being morally right in this cringe batman esq bullshit that pretends its in the right. In reality its people who personally get offended when you don't just take their side and they use it to pretend their offense against a person is morally correct and the fact you don't instantly side with them is morally wrong
Either way I'm excited to see this video. I hope you can get away from this circus of nutcases who are quite literally the most goofy dramatic troupe of narcissists and make content that makes you happy and is stress free. Or whatever videos it is you wanna make. Good for you for standing up to what are essentially online internet wackjob bullies.
"They go aggro on anyone..."
This usage of the term aggro just really tickled me. The idea that they're NPCs hit the spot like a good meal when you're famished.
I cannot for the life of me take Lio seriously with how he speaks in this lmfao
Also my god every little giggle Peaches does help-
I can not believe Casowarfox is cosplaying as a space cowboy femboy fox. You can not make this shit up. Benji really is the only one who came out of all this relatively fine.
is that fucking BBL drizzy at the start or am i going insane
That is DEFINITELY BBL Drizzy
Waiting on Benji to cover the kendrick drake beef
@@neo1711 i think drake needs to give lio a feat
When you first made a video about cutting ties with Lio, I considered that the beginning of the end. Looking at the comments in that vid, it was hilarious how people were picking up on Lio's weird hypocrisy and funny performative growling back then. The larp writing was on the wall.
46:47 AND LOOK WHO WAS FUCKIN RIGHT!
NAILED IT!
Nailed it like the Romies.
"quadruple that, quadruple that hypothetical i made with your blood relative unto my larping family that pred hunts" 🤣
bro, lago's sister isn't doing any of this period let alone on public domain- bad comparison lmfao
Power to you man I would of made fun of Lio so fast when he did that rp tough guy talk, sounds like someone who heard a Elden Ring/Bloodborne NPC and thought it was the coolest shit ever
I still can't believe people let Lio talk to them like that. The day I get talked down to by a Discord Creep....
I hope all your future videos cross Peaches path
In other news it's honestly insane how eye opening that video was for how Lio acts to the smallest amount of joking made at his expense. Or that if you're showing signs of submission he'll use vocal manipulation tactics in order to instill fear into you to get you to do what he wants. He strikes me as the type of person who would see that I agree with you, find my phone number, and attempt to get me fired with false allegations. Absolutely unhinged.
Ain’t no way J Aubrey and Lago uploaded on the same day and minutes from each other. WE EATING GOOD!!🔥
I know that's right my dude!
Are..are JAubrey fans known to be fans of Lagovirt? I wouldn't think they're related...but what do I know? Not alot I'm confident about.
@SilverTriforce25
The "Video Essay," "Commentary", "Drama", & "Tea" communities, including all of their subsidiary niches, have extremely incestuous audiences. Not to mention J Aubrey is one of the most well known Essayists on the platform who comments on the Rich & Famous. Though his audience is vastly smaller Lago Virt's strength comes from the fact that he actually knows the majority of the people he talks about. Due to these factors I wouldn't be surprised to find a massive audience crossover.
Hold up J has, why's youtube not showing me the vid!
@@Saedraverse TH-cam has a nasty habit of doing that. I just wish it didn't.
45:00 what’s funny abt this is that fionna is shown as an adult in og adventure time (18-19 later on iirc? not including at: fionna and cake) so they cant even use the “she’s aged up” argument since she is seen at/above 18 years old in OG adventure time + is seen at/above 30 in fionna and cake
Damn, Lio really wanted you to know that the fact he wasn't yelling was supposed to be even scarier. Too bad he actually just sounds like he owns a fedora.
lio trying to imply that if lago didnt finish the sentence that he wasnt raised right is like saying "if you dont know the lyrics of cotton eye joe youre a bad person"
not being familiar with a deep quote doesnt mean youre evil or stupid
Lio is the definition of the word "pathetic"
Yeah he’s a criminal
I’m going to cry Lio sounds so silly. Bro sounds like you just insulted his discord kitten. 😭🙏
your voice is so calming, even when you're talking about so much horrors beyond human comprehension
So what I get from this video is two British furries embarassing themselves by not telling Lago the truth and instead insisting he knew it while he didn't.
Man does one mistake without knowledge and suddenly he's a bad person with addition to others making things up about him. That's just petty.
As a former family mediator it is no surprise to me that Lio is a shitty person. People who think 'predator hunting' is some sort of cool vigilante work tend to be that. They don't care about the victims, they see what is going on and think 'how can this person's traumatic experience make me look good'. People who professionally work with child abuse cases are under a lot of psychological stress. Not because we are 'weak' but because we actually have to empathically engage with the victims.
Empathically engaging with the victims... That sounds easy enough. I mean, I would call the cops on the abuser in a heartbeat.
But then again, maybe I'm being naive for immediately going for that, feeling like it'd be easy... IS it easy?
@mobileterrarian3653 Calling the cops is not empathically engaging. Mediators and other social/pedagogic workers have to support the victim emotionally, often for months, including when the victim does not want to go to the police. Some families we work with for years.
Having to watch someone deteriorate emotionally despite doing your best is not something I would call easy.
@@ragnarkjell8586 That's a pretty good point... I mean, given what the victim went through, they need all the emotional support they could get.
When you think one drama ends, another sprouts up. It's a cycle that is very hard to escape
The end is never the end
I swear, it's like a Uroboros of some sort.
This "drama" has been going on for like a good 2 years, maybe even more
That’s the commentary community for ya. One commentator will rise and fall before another comes to knock them down to claim their crown before they too suffer their victim’s fate when someone else does it to them.
BlackBusterCritic despite my own issues with him (Mostly his cockiness rubbing me the wrong way) manages to escape it and he’s not apart of it. He did it to the slideshow community, did it to Rich and he could easily nail the entire art community in a few moves if he was still active. Perhaps he’d suffer a big L now but we won’t know because he never got caught in career ending controversies like Lio and Peaches.
He’s just some former Blockbuster employee and he can win the battles without having to do much. In some cases like Rich, they go and seize the L in their own arrogance. Pit him against the Senate and he’ll be the surgeon operating them on the table because he’s not smelling his own farts like they are. He’ll be someone who could get under their skin with a few well-picked words and just to remind you, he’s just a regular retail employee working shifts yet he could out debate Youngblood91 in their discussion together.
What I find wild is that everyone joins these calls just to let him yell at them. Like, just ignore it and block. This guy is nothing but a bully and just gets a power trip. None of these conversations needed to be held for a public shaming cause that's all this is.
I don’t like that Lio and Peaches would rather bad cop the closest people they can find in their friends’ lists related to their problems instead of getting in contact with the actual people doing the things they’re angry with
I agree dude
Lio got together with a bunch of his buddies and made fun of me and my friends a long while back. To boot, he helped spread WILD misinformation about a project I was a part of. Never commented on it at the time, but y'know? I'd be lying if I said that seeing all of this come out now doesn't put a big ol' smile on my face. I hope everyone who collaborated with Lio to mock me and my coworkers is feeling some karmic embarrassment, for having ever sided with such a lowlife. I laughed all throughout this documentary, thank you for making my day. ♡
Peaches insisting you make videos for clout is unintentional projection on her part. SHE makes videos for clout, so YOU have to as well in her mind and there's no other reason, because she wouldn't make a video for any other reason. That's my speculation on her insisting that.
Quick correction, Peaches goes by He/Him now I believe !
Otherwise you completely right
@@gummywormee41 I thought it was going/gone
@@gummywormee41 Ah yes, "Pronouns is more important than this person's actions/wrong doing" Species
No body cares btw, everyone refering Peaches as She because that's a female voice and her avatar doesn't even look like a boy to begin with
@@oneandonlysound3453 Lmao good one!
If Lio called me and started anime seething like that at me I would not be able to suppress my laughter, holy shit what a fucking goober
"You can look for the word *_DADDY."_*
PLS I ACTUALLY CHOKED
LIKE HUUUH???
Hmm, let me think this over.... Hopeless Peaches deleted her channel, Lio did a video addressing the accusations....and he still makes videos.....something just doesnt seem to add up to all this drama? What is the missing piece?
Eren (Hopeless Peaches) accused Lio of abusing him, and I think they got chased off bc of that
bro every time Lio opens his mouth all i can think of is the daredevil dog meme
lio speaking like a movie trailer pissed me the fuck off bro I woulda left that call
Fun fact: I was threatened by Lio in a discord call in another creators discord
yo fr?
@@fairnightmare yep, I'm a mod in that creators server and we muted him until he calmed down and then got accused of "tone policing"
@@cryomiji What creator?
@@cryomiji dude thats crazy. aint he, like, almost 40?? 😭
Lio's voice always irritated me, i just cannot listen to him speak without getting irrationally annoyed:/
fr, his voice lowkey triggers my misophonia 😭
@@fairnightmare 🥲