just as a side note, the document lumen gave tripp was actually a real cease and desist. A cease and desist is not a legal document. it's basically just a note saying "hey, if you don't stop this i'll sue you" and that's it. You can't fake one as they don't actually have any legal power in the first place. You could scribble one out on a napkin and it'd still be a real cease and desist.
I’m neurodivergent. So are many in the fandom. Almost none of us burst into a strangers room to take pictures of them. Sometimes I struggle with social actions, but I never struggle with consensually entering people’s rooms/asking for a picture, when appropriate. Many don’t struggle with that, because it’s a fucking no-brainer.
There are different types of neurodivergencies that could absolutely influence someone to do shit like this if they A. were never corrected/taught on how to act B. do not care how their actions affect others because they can't empathize with them and/or C. can't visualize or don't care about the consequences of their actions. It's the whole reason people study the psychology of sociopaths/psychopaths. He may have a neurodivergent condition that many other people have (and which he may blame his actions on) when it's actually a different condition that influences his actions.
@d8035 , this sort of thing just illustrates another downside of the Internet, because there are more opportunities than ever before for a young and/or awkward person to humiliate themselves in front of the entire world and never be able to live it down. Kids are posting photos, videos, and tweets that will definitely come back to haunt them when they're older, and for good *and* ill, when someone acts like an ass or a weirdo at a gathering in Delaware, news of their behavior can spread to Dubai! On the flip side, though, the Internet helps us to notice, flag, and warn each other about "broken stairs" within our communities, so that they just aren't permitted to freely wreak havoc. Based on this video, it sounds like Lumin has rejected and/or not gotten vital social training and feedback in his life that could've prevented him from embarrassing himself and alienating people, and he sadly seems determined to double down.
yes you may be neurodivergent but have you considered that neurodivergency does include schizophrenia and paranoia and psychosis and antisocial personality disorder . neurodivergency is not an automatic Godsend Angel Sweet Baby disorder. it can be Nasty and Fucked up.
not the only thing Lumin did at ANE, he also stalked bloody Turkey Tom, and even called "Security" when Tom found out that he was being Stalked by the lug. Lumin was then booted from the place an hour later.
The fandom's full of neurodivergent people, and speaking as one, it's NEVER an excuse for inappropriate behavior like that, much less crashing into someone's hotel room without permission. Yikes.
His dog maw face mask kinda creeps me out, especially with the googly eyes on the sunglasses. It's just uncanny valley material when these two things combined
Thank you for making this. ...Because I left ONE comment on his channel and now it keeps being replied to and filling up my yt inbox because I keep thinking my comment is popping off or something smh
@HotSauce Why is it weird that I want to see what people think of my takes? Also, I don't see people replying to each other on my comments, so I guess that's cool.
Additionally if he was a minor where the hell were his parents in all of this?? He might be a legal adult NOW but this sort of behavior is born from coddling as well as flagrant neglect.
I'm a smaller creator myself and had the honor to work with Beta on a project, and can confirm that he doesn't look down on small creators whatsoever to my knowledge and comes off as a very nice guy
Thank you for covering this. He is a local in my area and I’ve met him at a furmeet. He always talked about balloons in a sexual manner and just wouldn’t stop talking about sex in general and other things about balloons. It was honestly really weird and made everyone at the meet uncomfy. We had no idea he was 17 at the time which just made me more uncomfy when I found out. I’m glad he’s banned from most meets in my area. I was also there for his little meltdown about New Years Furry Ball about something he was never involved with and only brought it back up to start drama because he was banned for unrelated reasons. He sent his dumb video to literally every gc I was in thinking anyone would believe that shit.
I don’t agree with Shell getting harassed for accepting the commission because they were in their bag. Fursuits are expansive and it’s how they make their living.
@@Lucky_the_Lycanroc How? Edit: No response so I guess it didn't happen. Shame on you going on the internet and just making things up, I can't believe someone would really do this!
@@carrionkitty6806 as a furry and subsciber of Turkey Tom, i dont get why he should be banned from conventions. he seems pretty harmless if not doing a bit of minor, harmless trolling.
Seeing his face in the thumbnail is like a kick in the teeth. Its non stop with this guy & danderwoolf. Blocked on everything, creepy little weirdo doxxed my friend and can stay the heck away from me.
Lumin is slightly less bad than Dander, Dander is legitimately a serial criminal at this point, since he not only has hacked/stolen personal info of multiple people, he doxxed the Supreme Court justices at one point and had a completely inappropriate conversation with someone he knew was a 16 year old when he was 20, even saying to that boy *"Ur so naughty for turning me on."* 🤢
@@BrunoMaricFromZagrebpersonally I still think he’s pretty horrible. The literal furry fetish thumbnails he has on his channel knowing damn well that little kids watch him is just so disgusting to me. Even if his audience were 18+ you should not be putting that kind of shit on youtube.
@@Drax69420Essentially a narcissistic cult leader with an ego bigger than saturn and a complete inability of taking any criticism at all whatsoever. Which might be an exaggeration on my end, but that's typically as I see him. Too lazy to write a big analysis. In shorter words, Garo Shadowscale is kinda cringe.
Not a furry, but happened upon this after Turkey Tom posted his video about his visit to the same convention in Boston. He was actually followed around by this guy, same costume and everything. Tom jokingly called Lumin a "secret agent," and after learning more about Lumin, even I can't think of any reason to take this dude's threats seriously. Good video, by the way.
I discovered this on the front page of Kiwi Farms last night, I had no idea who this guy was until yesterday. But it's absolutely bewildering to me how someone can act in such a way with little to no forethought of the consequences ahead.
Lumin City has Harrassed me for the last two years every MFF, the whole con, frequently asking my dog, if im abusing him.... Because he is prior army, ig? Idk, but weve had to have him removed from con twice now. I expect next year will be the same.
Had to personally deal with the fellow as a moderator for one of the larger local servers he joined. They joined our discord community about a year ago and initially they were alright, quiet mostly, but their questionable messages and inconsiderate behavior during meetups made many members uncomfortable, some downright leaving because of it. It was only until we dropped him from the server, after multiple attempts to tell him to curb his behavior and giving him advice to not make any more waves (he complained quite a bit about his drama) falling on deaf ears, that droves of people began to return to the server and our meetups. In the end, his lack of insight and personal responsibility is what's driving him out of the community, and I'm not sure anymore if his excuse for being neurodivergent holds anymore. Honestly, I think the guy just has to take a break from the community and perhaps the internet as a whole. Also, don't think I didn't notice the Mili/Library of Ruina reference in description. Amazing taste.
@@dingdongshush I mean it’s one of those things that still stands out, especially if you’re online and your voice is all people hear. Even if you know most people don’t care, sometimes you wish you could blend in better. …And then being neurodivergent on top of that, it makes me feel like that negative stereotype you’ve seen everywhere of “special” people. Once again, I know people don’t think about this all that deeply. Glass half full perspective is that this guy has still managed to garner an audience despite… Everything, but it still messes with you, just as everybody else has that one thing about them they wish they could change. Sorry to turn this into a “woe is me” essay about a guy I’m (hopefully) nothing like. Insecurities are hard.
@@rubyy.7374 Aw, dude. I'm sorry to hear it bothers you so much. Have you considered speech therapy, or perhaps dental work would resolve it? I didn't mean to minimise the way you felt - I was trying to make you feel better about it, not worse! My partner tends to lisp more when he's excited about something, or when he's talking about things he really likes. It really is one of those little quirks about him that makes me smile inside.
OH MY GOD 31:24 I hate to make fun of people's handwritings but couldn't he at least, you know, write his name in CURSIVE ON A PAPER THAT'S TRYING TO SEEM PROFESSIONAL???
everytime benji uploads im immediatly like "oh no" because ive been pavloved into expecting him to talk about some fucking weirdos in the bad sense love his videos still tho
Ok so......i dont think i have EVER commented on one of your uploads but BLOODY HELL THAT VOICE IS grating on my last nerve after a long day😮😮😅. I do like your content though so i have to watch it all.
Someone dropped this video into a group chat for Furpoc and maaaaan oh man. He's in that chat and went SILENT lol Also I can't understand a word that kid says. I work with a dentist and I can understand my numbed up patients far more than I can Lumin
For whatever reason this Lumin guy strikes me as someone who has known nothing but furry fandom internet drama his entire life and yet doesn't actually care about art of animal characters whatsoever. If he were to be confronted on this, I'd expect him to rant about how "supporting artists is an important duty for members of the fandom" or something along those lines.
Where Barq does require minors show their age publicly, anyone over the age of 18 can't see them in search functions! That is how they protect minors on the app. For example a minor can see my profile if they live near me, but I can not see them unless they like my profile (which I think they need to remove people underage liking anyone over 18) I just think over all minors and 18+ people shouldn't be able to interact on the app at all.
Acknowledging and responding through TH-cam shorts a about serious controversy is really unprofessional. "HEY LOOK AT THIS FURSUIT I GOT, BUT DONT SUPPORT THE PERSON WHO MADE IT. AND ANY ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME ARE FALSE. ANYWAY, UNBOXING TIME!" like, what????
I'm not even a furry but god I love keeping up with the drama. It reads like a Reddit story time post except the engaging part is that it's actually real.
How hard is it for people to learn proper diction and sentence flow if they're going to be a content creator. Do multiple takes--there's no excuse for the mush mouth narration.
Just so everyone knows carrionkitty6806 is either an alt for lumin or Just really wants to ride him, dude is going nuts in the comments against anyone speaking ill of his Wifu lumin
When I saw the thumbnail to this video, I was wondering why this guys fursona pfp looked SO damn familiar. As I watched, it was when I got to 15:36 this point in the video that it finally clicked. I read that top tweet about Lumin being banned from the local NY/NJ furgroup and then it hit me, he’s one of the members in the NY furgroup that i’m currently in. I just thought of him as another NYC fur, cause I’ve never heard of him as a content creator till now. Huh. Interesting.
It was so unfortunate to learn about this dude's actions after meeting him at ANE. And it was at the pooltoy panel, of course. Helped him get in and out of a climb-in balloon. And regarding his disliking of Beta, I remember hearing Beta talk about how his business cards got ripped up at ANE and not knowing who did it or why. But now I can only guess it was Lumin lol
"His words can start to mix together audibly, making him more difficult to understand." I feel like this might be an understatement, Lumin is pretty incomprehensible lmfao
IIRC, I saw this dude's take on the Coyote situation. I mostly laughed at it, because the blurred-together sentences was basically interpreted as a manifestation of the drama itself. Didn't think he was notable enough for a vid tho. Guess he grew a bit since last I peeked at him.
Dang. I was at ANE. I like to go around at cons and take pictures. Lumin showed up in a few of the photos I took at some of the events, but I wanted to catch them at some point and get a few photos of just them because it was an adorable fursuit. Then a couple of weeks later I see this video. ... ... God dammit. I've seen this form of drama play out. Where person A does something to wrong person B. Person B responds to being wronged. Person A takes this as a blow to their ego, acts like they're the victim, and lashes back at Person A. When in reality what's happening is that they wronged person A, and now they won't leave person A the hell alone. I can sort of understand the neurodivergent aspect. I'm neurodivergent myself. Some people don't have an innate sense of what's appropriate. They have to learn it the hard way. But I'm overly cautious to the point of having social anxiety. I absolutely hate interacting with people in an adversarial way, and I've managed to avoid any form of personal conflict for years. I'd be so embarrassed to find out that I made someone uncomfortable that sometimes I'm scared to interact with people. Cons to me are exposure therapy to help me get over this and be more open. I don't want there to be this consensus that being neurodivergent automatically makes people do inappropriate stuff.
Was at FD22 and that “event”, if it even existed on paper, never made it far enough to make it to the initial list of events. I bought tickets early and never saw it then or after. It was downtown Philly and wouldn’t have been enjoyable in that pool
This little goblin had the audacity to make me look like a menace back at AC22 when he out here stalking people and doxxing? man I love watching the fall
Ummm... what? I think I should've put subtitles on. No shame for speech impediments, but dude's gotta slow down and maybe enunciate better? It sounds like he may have something in his mouth, like a retainer. (Get your mind out of the gutter, lol.) But as a former retainer wearer; please take it out if its removeable. I promise people will stop saying "huh?" as much.
Ummmm not sure how to feel here, like wtf is with this person. You don't stalk someone and hand them a cease and desist letter, this is done via your Lawyer. Hotel rooms are private, they are not to be randomly opened to take a photo of someone, just no, was having a zomboid filled night and this just made that night a bit of a weird one lol. Thanks again, love putting your videos on while I play games, maybe this one should be put on when need something serious to watch lol. Hope Tripp is ok, honestly person needs a 40ft pol on him so they can stay 40ft away from any furry or not furry. Just no please don't interact at any cost
world's smallest nitpick, but... would it kill him to record himself speaking separately without the balaclava for audio that doesn't sound like a burger king drive through and add it in in post? If you're making content regularly, it might be a good idea to like..... try, a little bit?
Hey music recommendation: "About 10 Hours of Making Breakcore" by Emray. They sample that piano track you use at the beginning (0:08) and its pretty rad. Unless I literally just heard it wrong and thats what youre playing, point and laugh at me.
When I saw Lumin defend Odin Wolf I knew something was up. I had no idea they were this bad- And about Odin Wolf, he was a furry who recently got his channel banned for making inappropriate content for his audience who are mostly kids, and he admitted he knows this. Odin was also recently exposed for many awful things, it might be a good idea to talk about him too...
whats up with odin wolf?? not doubting u i just had no idea he had any drama attached to him also when i look for vids abt it all i see is ppl talking abt how his adult oriented channel got taken down and its ppl saying it was unfair and from what i saw thats fair enough i think?? he did make it explicitly for adults, the vids were age restricted and he didnt post anything that went over yts guidelines but i could b wrong bc i didnt watch much of his content XD just from what i remember
@@chronicgrails Yeah, a lot of people don't talk about his drama, probably because most of it was on Twitter. I saw a few videos talking about his drama years ago but they apparently got flagged by Odin for "cyberbullying". I found all of the evidence on Kiwifarms (I know that Site is super blegh but his thread is surprisingly consise and respectful). Odin did a lot of random weird bad things (such as using the N word, treating his friends badly, stuff like that), but the worst thing by far was him basically admitting to SAing his ex boyfriend, when said boyfriend was uncomfortable...
@@Stibly I knew something was up with Odin when I saw in a video he has a dakimakura of his fursona in underwear with a suggestive expression, which is in no way appropriate to show in videos if his audience mostly consists of children and teenagers (and if he's selling/marketing it to them, that's highly illegal). Reading what Odin did with his boyfriend....good Lord, he should be in prison. I'm looking at his Kiwi Farms thread now, and as problematic as they can be, they always do a good job exposing creeps online, I gotta hand it to them. And EWW, according to the thread, he has another *daki of his fursona as a babyfur,* and this combined with him liking cub smut is proof he shouldn't be allowed within at least 2000 feet of children or places where they congregate (he even has the IRL face of a person who matches that description), and the fact that Lumin defends him is very suspicious.🤢
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to everyone asking:
the game is Gunfire Reborn
literally just bought it on steam because it seems so fun omg, please keep leaving the games names in the comments, im a little ipad kid
I thought it was called Puss in Boots: Back in Action.
Based as hell
D-damn peggy
Damn, you read my mind.
Careful Benji. You keep this up he might send you a totally real cease and desist.
He'll take you to the furry police, and the state police
Don't forget the cyber police!
Or the Mega Police!@@eardestructioninc.4928
Don't you mean fuwwee poweese?
@@androponixo no! i committed a fewony😰
i hate myself
just as a side note, the document lumen gave tripp was actually a real cease and desist. A cease and desist is not a legal document. it's basically just a note saying "hey, if you don't stop this i'll sue you" and that's it. You can't fake one as they don't actually have any legal power in the first place. You could scribble one out on a napkin and it'd still be a real cease and desist.
I’m neurodivergent. So are many in the fandom. Almost none of us burst into a strangers room to take pictures of them. Sometimes I struggle with social actions, but I never struggle with consensually entering people’s rooms/asking for a picture, when appropriate. Many don’t struggle with that, because it’s a fucking no-brainer.
There are different types of neurodivergencies that could absolutely influence someone to do shit like this if they A. were never corrected/taught on how to act B. do not care how their actions affect others because they can't empathize with them and/or C. can't visualize or don't care about the consequences of their actions. It's the whole reason people study the psychology of sociopaths/psychopaths. He may have a neurodivergent condition that many other people have (and which he may blame his actions on) when it's actually a different condition that influences his actions.
@d8035 , this sort of thing just illustrates another downside of the Internet, because there are more opportunities than ever before for a young and/or awkward person to humiliate themselves in front of the entire world and never be able to live it down. Kids are posting photos, videos, and tweets that will definitely come back to haunt them when they're older, and for good *and* ill, when someone acts like an ass or a weirdo at a gathering in Delaware, news of their behavior can spread to Dubai!
On the flip side, though, the Internet helps us to notice, flag, and warn each other about "broken stairs" within our communities, so that they just aren't permitted to freely wreak havoc.
Based on this video, it sounds like Lumin has rejected and/or not gotten vital social training and feedback in his life that could've prevented him from embarrassing himself and alienating people, and he sadly seems determined to double down.
yes you may be neurodivergent but have you considered that neurodivergency does include schizophrenia and paranoia and psychosis and antisocial personality disorder . neurodivergency is not an automatic Godsend Angel Sweet Baby disorder. it can be Nasty and Fucked up.
He needed more involved parents in his life clearly
@@pgames1980yes but the fact ppl like lumin can use it as an excuse is bad..
this is so sad alexa send me another cease and desist
Dude, always shitty stuff happening to you D:>
not the only thing Lumin did at ANE, he also stalked bloody Turkey Tom, and even called "Security" when Tom found out that he was being Stalked by the lug.
Lumin was then booted from the place an hour later.
The fandom's full of neurodivergent people, and speaking as one, it's NEVER an excuse for inappropriate behavior like that, much less crashing into someone's hotel room without permission. Yikes.
people who don't respect other people's limits or force themselves into other people's spaces is problematic... I hate dealing with people like that
I remember him dragging me into the drama he started with Beta like brooooo I aint got no beef with Beta! Leave me outta this!
Perplexing
His dog maw face mask kinda creeps me out, especially with the googly eyes on the sunglasses.
It's just uncanny valley material when these two things combined
They just look so universally terrible, no matter who's wearing it
Thank you for making this.
...Because I left ONE comment on his channel and now it keeps being replied to and filling up my yt inbox because I keep thinking my comment is popping off or something smh
Keeping comment notifications on is weird tbh turn em off
Right, i never reply to my shits no more@@CherryHotSauce
@HotSauce Why is it weird that I want to see what people think of my takes?
Also, I don't see people replying to each other on my comments, so I guess that's cool.
@@CherryHotSauce ? Comment notifs tell you where the flame wars are, that's half the fun of commenting, getting feedback.
Y'all are getting notifications when your comments are getting replies?
Additionally if he was a minor where the hell were his parents in all of this?? He might be a legal adult NOW but this sort of behavior is born from coddling as well as flagrant neglect.
Five seconds of hearing that guy’s voice and I already hate him. Thanks, Virt!
Me too 😂
This applies to way too many of these videos.
his voice is too muffled
he definitely talks like he has a bone in his mouth lol
To me it sounds more like he's got a bunch of cotton balls in his cheeks
omg, he sounds like fucking Boomhauer.
The speech pattern of Boomhauer but the insanity of Dale (I’m getting a cease and desist in my email over this comment as I type)
Best comment I've seen so far XD
man i tell ya what man dang ole furries man always tryna burst into hotel rooms like BOOM and then dang ole "woe is meeee" man like yo
@@RandyPitchfordgamerwaifudale’s better than this
I'm a smaller creator myself and had the honor to work with Beta on a project, and can confirm that he doesn't look down on small creators whatsoever to my knowledge and comes off as a very nice guy
@aeronicle Wait what? Never met him before...... Anyways, good you?
In an earlier time, Lumin could have lived a happy, drama-free life as an auctioneer.
Thank you for covering this. He is a local in my area and I’ve met him at a furmeet. He always talked about balloons in a sexual manner and just wouldn’t stop talking about sex in general and other things about balloons. It was honestly really weird and made everyone at the meet uncomfy. We had no idea he was 17 at the time which just made me more uncomfy when I found out. I’m glad he’s banned from most meets in my area. I was also there for his little meltdown about New Years Furry Ball about something he was never involved with and only brought it back up to start drama because he was banned for unrelated reasons. He sent his dumb video to literally every gc I was in thinking anyone would believe that shit.
Oh, the biggest weirdo is the one who claims to be asexual? Shocker
lumin always talks so fast like hes at gunpoint lol
I don’t agree with Shell getting harassed for accepting the commission because they were in their bag. Fursuits are expansive and it’s how they make their living.
Exactly!
Everybody gangsta till Lumin says "Baudua ducha da" at the speed of light
this dude was stalking turkeytom when he went to a furry convention. that shit was insane
And he caused Tom to get banned from most conventions
@@Lucky_the_Lycanrocwhomp whomp. Tom absolutely does not belong at furry conventions. That's gotta be the ONLY good thing Lumin has done tbh.
@@Lucky_the_Lycanroc How?
Edit: No response so I guess it didn't happen. Shame on you going on the internet and just making things up, I can't believe someone would really do this!
@@carrionkitty6806 as a furry and subsciber of Turkey Tom, i dont get why he should be banned from conventions. he seems pretty harmless if not doing a bit of minor, harmless trolling.
@@memechild2025 You are genuinely foolish.
Seeing his face in the thumbnail is like a kick in the teeth. Its non stop with this guy & danderwoolf.
Blocked on everything, creepy little weirdo doxxed my friend and can stay the heck away from me.
Lumin is slightly less bad than Dander, Dander is legitimately a serial criminal at this point, since he not only has hacked/stolen personal info of multiple people, he doxxed the Supreme Court justices at one point and had a completely inappropriate conversation with someone he knew was a 16 year old when he was 20, even saying to that boy *"Ur so naughty for turning me on."* 🤢
Just when I thought Garoshadowscale was the worst.
@@BrunoMaricFromZagrebpersonally I still think he’s pretty horrible. The literal furry fetish thumbnails he has on his channel knowing damn well that little kids watch him is just so disgusting to me. Even if his audience were 18+ you should not be putting that kind of shit on youtube.
@@BrunoMaricFromZagrebhow's shadowgale bad? He seemed alright from what I saw but I know decent looking furries often turn out to be creeps.
@@Drax69420Essentially a narcissistic cult leader with an ego bigger than saturn and a complete inability of taking any criticism at all whatsoever. Which might be an exaggeration on my end, but that's typically as I see him. Too lazy to write a big analysis.
In shorter words, Garo Shadowscale is kinda cringe.
he definitely talks like he has a bone in his mouth
Me, I just plain can't tolerate that saliva-laden sound of someone trying to talk through a balaclava.
Not a furry, but happened upon this after Turkey Tom posted his video about his visit to the same convention in Boston. He was actually followed around by this guy, same costume and everything. Tom jokingly called Lumin a "secret agent," and after learning more about Lumin, even I can't think of any reason to take this dude's threats seriously.
Good video, by the way.
I discovered this on the front page of Kiwi Farms last night, I had no idea who this guy was until yesterday. But it's absolutely bewildering to me how someone can act in such a way with little to no forethought of the consequences ahead.
TT is a raging antisemite
Oh god, Turkey Tom.
Lumin City has Harrassed me for the last two years every MFF, the whole con, frequently asking my dog, if im abusing him.... Because he is prior army, ig? Idk, but weve had to have him removed from con twice now. I expect next year will be the same.
Dude using neurodivergence to excuse his psychopathic behaviour is extremely scummy. What a creep
I just watched from the sidelines. It was very entertaining to watch and gave me interest for googly eyes lol.
that is literally what neurodivergent means
Sadly, this is at least the 5th case I’ve seen of this.
For a guy named Lumin, he isn't very bright.
here from turkey tom, great video! its cool to hear the context/story around this in greater detail.
just subbed
Had to personally deal with the fellow as a moderator for one of the larger local servers he joined. They joined our discord community about a year ago and initially they were alright, quiet mostly, but their questionable messages and inconsiderate behavior during meetups made many members uncomfortable, some downright leaving because of it. It was only until we dropped him from the server, after multiple attempts to tell him to curb his behavior and giving him advice to not make any more waves (he complained quite a bit about his drama) falling on deaf ears, that droves of people began to return to the server and our meetups. In the end, his lack of insight and personal responsibility is what's driving him out of the community, and I'm not sure anymore if his excuse for being neurodivergent holds anymore. Honestly, I think the guy just has to take a break from the community and perhaps the internet as a whole.
Also, don't think I didn't notice the Mili/Library of Ruina reference in description. Amazing taste.
oh my god i cant believe lumin city shat himself
Im gonna say this, Lagovirt is a wonderful content creator and deserves some positive praise indeed.
I haven’t even watched an eighth of the video, how are 1.5k people listening to a mouth of marbles?!
He needs subtitles 😂
I have a lisp and am incredibly self conscious about how I talk, but at the very least I don’t sound like that guy 😭
@@rubyy.7374 My partner of 8 years has a lisp. He also hates it - I just think it's cute
@@dingdongshush I mean it’s one of those things that still stands out, especially if you’re online and your voice is all people hear. Even if you know most people don’t care, sometimes you wish you could blend in better.
…And then being neurodivergent on top of that, it makes me feel like that negative stereotype you’ve seen everywhere of “special” people.
Once again, I know people don’t think about this all that deeply. Glass half full perspective is that this guy has still managed to garner an audience despite… Everything, but it still messes with you, just as everybody else has that one thing about them they wish they could change.
Sorry to turn this into a “woe is me” essay about a guy I’m (hopefully) nothing like. Insecurities are hard.
@@rubyy.7374 Aw, dude. I'm sorry to hear it bothers you so much. Have you considered speech therapy, or perhaps dental work would resolve it? I didn't mean to minimise the way you felt - I was trying to make you feel better about it, not worse! My partner tends to lisp more when he's excited about something, or when he's talking about things he really likes. It really is one of those little quirks about him that makes me smile inside.
I’m neurodivergent too but I don’t knock on random furs doors and take pictures of them at cons, rooms are for rest
Now this guys, is a certified banger.
OH MY GOD 31:24
I hate to make fun of people's handwritings but couldn't he at least, you know, write his name in CURSIVE ON A PAPER THAT'S TRYING TO SEEM PROFESSIONAL???
You know that not everyone knows or can use cursive, right? Idk why it's such a big deal...
Cursive makes me want to curse at it ngl
@@stormyskiesyt3389 It was taught in elementary.
@Mai.Calico Yeah, but not everyone can remember it or even use it if they were even taught it at all.
@@stormyskiesyt3389Then they need to learn or re-learn it. You need to at least be able to sign your name.
everytime benji uploads im immediatly like "oh no" because ive been pavloved into expecting him to talk about some fucking weirdos in the bad sense
love his videos still tho
Ok so......i dont think i have EVER commented on one of your uploads but BLOODY HELL THAT VOICE IS grating on my last nerve after a long day😮😮😅.
I do like your content though so i have to watch it all.
The single first frame tells me everything I need to know about him
wake up babe new lagovirt video just dropped
"Furries, especially minorities, face discrimination" ......... Does he know?
Someone dropped this video into a group chat for Furpoc and maaaaan oh man. He's in that chat and went SILENT lol
Also I can't understand a word that kid says. I work with a dentist and I can understand my numbed up patients far more than I can Lumin
Yeah, that gear and his voice seem to cause muffle^2
For whatever reason this Lumin guy strikes me as someone who has known nothing but furry fandom internet drama his entire life and yet doesn't actually care about art of animal characters whatsoever. If he were to be confronted on this, I'd expect him to rant about how "supporting artists is an important duty for members of the fandom" or something along those lines.
Jesus Christ this dude needs subtitles
Where Barq does require minors show their age publicly, anyone over the age of 18 can't see them in search functions!
That is how they protect minors on the app. For example a minor can see my profile if they live near me, but I can not see
them unless they like my profile (which I think they need to remove people underage liking anyone over 18)
I just think over all minors and 18+ people shouldn't be able to interact on the app at all.
Honestly that makes a lot of sense!
yeah but like you could just pose as someone under 18 thay should just ban them
Thank you for the upload Mr. Lagos, these midterms have NOT been kind to me
Babe wake up new lagovirt vid
Edit: hello fellow Turkeytommer
You stream Changed please don't, turkey tom would laugh at you. lol
@@Mai.CalicoI’d love to get roasted by Tom
Great video. Listening to Lumin Cityt talk legit made me wanna rip my ears off. Dude's a menace.
Seeing his outfit that's in his videos, all I can say is "Wth is that?"
That's someone's hard work, weather you like who paid for it or not. It's pretty garbage to trash a makers work like that.
Used seamen rags he glued to himself.
@@carrionkitty6806Still can acknowledge when something isn't good. Criticism is how people grow and get better.
@@carrionkitty6806a kindergartener presentation costume is better than that
@@carrionkitty6806 Just because it's hard work doesn't mean it's masterpiece.
Carpet Sample is also a hard work but it doesn't even look good
Thank god ive been on the internet to hear every manner of speech, otherwise i dont understand how anyone can recognize what the hell he's saying.
Acknowledging and responding through TH-cam shorts a about serious controversy is really unprofessional. "HEY LOOK AT THIS FURSUIT I GOT, BUT DONT SUPPORT THE PERSON WHO MADE IT. AND ANY ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME ARE FALSE. ANYWAY, UNBOXING TIME!" like, what????
I saw the issue of him stalking people. Never been to a fur con but now I'm scared to even attend one lol
Yoooo He was stalkin Turkey Tom!
i think lumin is decently mental and needs some friends to talk about his behavior.
Bro needs a wrangler.
I'm not even a furry but god I love keeping up with the drama. It reads like a Reddit story time post except the engaging part is that it's actually real.
How hard is it for people to learn proper diction and sentence flow if they're going to be a content creator. Do multiple takes--there's no excuse for the mush mouth narration.
god we need to put child safety locks on keyboards
Just so everyone knows carrionkitty6806 is either an alt for lumin or Just really wants to ride him, dude is going nuts in the comments against anyone speaking ill of his Wifu lumin
When I saw the thumbnail to this video, I was wondering why this guys fursona pfp looked SO damn familiar. As I watched, it was when I got to 15:36 this point in the video that it finally clicked.
I read that top tweet about Lumin being banned from the local NY/NJ furgroup and then it hit me, he’s one of the members in the NY furgroup that i’m currently in. I just thought of him as another NYC fur, cause I’ve never heard of him as a content creator till now. Huh. Interesting.
OML i was hearing the signalis music in the background actually gave me a heart attack
Just when i was thinking "Man I wonder when LagoVirt is gonna upload a new video" I get this. 👀
Tom Dark got stalked by him in a furcon not too long ago
New Lago video? I needed this for today. Thanks, man! Great work as always.
this video will single-handedly cause a massive war between lumin and society
It was so unfortunate to learn about this dude's actions after meeting him at ANE. And it was at the pooltoy panel, of course. Helped him get in and out of a climb-in balloon. And regarding his disliking of Beta, I remember hearing Beta talk about how his business cards got ripped up at ANE and not knowing who did it or why. But now I can only guess it was Lumin lol
"His words can start to mix together audibly, making him more difficult to understand." I feel like this might be an understatement, Lumin is pretty incomprehensible lmfao
Babe! Wake up! A new LagoVirt video just dropped.
i was at a 18+ panels he got kicked out of, i did record the panel but he is not in the video, all your hear from is "they didn't say this was 18+"
My fucking brain is rotting out learning about this shit. God damn this kid is just going to escalate if nothing gets done
Does he have something in his mouth? Is his mask a print of his actual face and he’s got a chew toy in there?
It another great video from the bunny.
My mind is so warped I automatically read this as bnuuy
IIRC, I saw this dude's take on the Coyote situation. I mostly laughed at it, because the blurred-together sentences was basically interpreted as a manifestation of the drama itself. Didn't think he was notable enough for a vid tho. Guess he grew a bit since last I peeked at him.
I can't understand that lumin dude when he speaks.
It sounds like he is covering his mouth with his hand before he speaks
Real question, what's with the hands? Why does he hold them up like that?
This lumin guy talks like he constantly has a mouth full of peanut butter. It's infuriating to listen to
lol, I’ve never really even thought having to put a password on a hotel room geez. Never opening my door to uninvited people
i was at ane. the lawsuit paper fiasco was nuts lol
Lumin doesnt seem all uhhh there
I just know the lawsuit bit is gonna be funny
Bro forgot to learn the respect skill
Dang. I was at ANE. I like to go around at cons and take pictures. Lumin showed up in a few of the photos I took at some of the events, but I wanted to catch them at some point and get a few photos of just them because it was an adorable fursuit. Then a couple of weeks later I see this video. ... ... God dammit.
I've seen this form of drama play out. Where person A does something to wrong person B. Person B responds to being wronged. Person A takes this as a blow to their ego, acts like they're the victim, and lashes back at Person A. When in reality what's happening is that they wronged person A, and now they won't leave person A the hell alone.
I can sort of understand the neurodivergent aspect. I'm neurodivergent myself. Some people don't have an innate sense of what's appropriate. They have to learn it the hard way. But I'm overly cautious to the point of having social anxiety. I absolutely hate interacting with people in an adversarial way, and I've managed to avoid any form of personal conflict for years. I'd be so embarrassed to find out that I made someone uncomfortable that sometimes I'm scared to interact with people. Cons to me are exposure therapy to help me get over this and be more open. I don't want there to be this consensus that being neurodivergent automatically makes people do inappropriate stuff.
Libarber of ruins vans reference in the description!!!?!?!?!?! (I love the city I live in)
Always a pleasure to see you upload lago :3
Was at FD22 and that “event”, if it even existed on paper, never made it far enough to make it to the initial list of events. I bought tickets early and never saw it then or after. It was downtown Philly and wouldn’t have been enjoyable in that pool
You gonna do a video on Kero the Wolf’s new Hakan Yote Fursona?
Bro keeps tryna crawl back
Did Lumin swallow the microphone or something? Bro's voice sounds like it.
Holy shit what is enunciation
Speech Therapy
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This sums it all up of the horrible stuff lumin has done. Great video. Keep up the awesome job.
He sounds like what he looks like and not in a good way
Literally sat next to lumen in anthrocon 2023 and didn't realize this guy had done such things...
This little goblin had the audacity to make me look like a menace back at AC22 when he out here stalking people and doxxing? man I love watching the fall
He's hard to listen to .. he sounds like the tf2 pyro
Nah, Pyro is more understandable than this dude
Ummm... what?
I think I should've put subtitles on. No shame for speech impediments, but dude's gotta slow down and maybe enunciate better? It sounds like he may have something in his mouth, like a retainer. (Get your mind out of the gutter, lol.) But as a former retainer wearer; please take it out if its removeable. I promise people will stop saying "huh?" as much.
Ummmm not sure how to feel here, like wtf is with this person. You don't stalk someone and hand them a cease and desist letter, this is done via your Lawyer. Hotel rooms are private, they are not to be randomly opened to take a photo of someone, just no, was having a zomboid filled night and this just made that night a bit of a weird one lol. Thanks again, love putting your videos on while I play games, maybe this one should be put on when need something serious to watch lol. Hope Tripp is ok, honestly person needs a 40ft pol on him so they can stay 40ft away from any furry or not furry. Just no please don't interact at any cost
world's smallest nitpick, but... would it kill him to record himself speaking separately without the balaclava for audio that doesn't sound like a burger king drive through and add it in in post? If you're making content regularly, it might be a good idea to like..... try, a little bit?
Seriously, it sounds like he has a mouth full of cotton
Tom dark made me watch this 😂
Wild. Informative as always. Great video
Hey music recommendation:
"About 10 Hours of Making Breakcore" by Emray. They sample that piano track you use at the beginning (0:08) and its pretty rad.
Unless I literally just heard it wrong and thats what youre playing, point and laugh at me.
Living in the city, you've got to know how you survive! Living in the city you need to know how to keep alive!
When I saw Lumin defend Odin Wolf I knew something was up. I had no idea they were this bad-
And about Odin Wolf, he was a furry who recently got his channel banned for making inappropriate content for his audience who are mostly kids, and he admitted he knows this. Odin was also recently exposed for many awful things, it might be a good idea to talk about him too...
whats up with odin wolf?? not doubting u i just had no idea he had any drama attached to him also when i look for vids abt it all i see is ppl talking abt how his adult oriented channel got taken down and its ppl saying it was unfair and from what i saw thats fair enough i think?? he did make it explicitly for adults, the vids were age restricted and he didnt post anything that went over yts guidelines but i could b wrong bc i didnt watch much of his content XD just from what i remember
@@chronicgrails Yeah, a lot of people don't talk about his drama, probably because most of it was on Twitter. I saw a few videos talking about his drama years ago but they apparently got flagged by Odin for "cyberbullying". I found all of the evidence on Kiwifarms (I know that Site is super blegh but his thread is surprisingly consise and respectful). Odin did a lot of random weird bad things (such as using the N word, treating his friends badly, stuff like that), but the worst thing by far was him basically admitting to SAing his ex boyfriend, when said boyfriend was uncomfortable...
@@Stibly I knew something was up with Odin when I saw in a video he has a dakimakura of his fursona in underwear with a suggestive expression, which is in no way appropriate to show in videos if his audience mostly consists of children and teenagers (and if he's selling/marketing it to them, that's highly illegal). Reading what Odin did with his boyfriend....good Lord, he should be in prison.
I'm looking at his Kiwi Farms thread now, and as problematic as they can be, they always do a good job exposing creeps online, I gotta hand it to them. And EWW, according to the thread, he has another *daki of his fursona as a babyfur,* and this combined with him liking cub smut is proof he shouldn't be allowed within at least 2000 feet of children or places where they congregate (he even has the IRL face of a person who matches that description), and the fact that Lumin defends him is very suspicious.🤢
and now he got caught stalking TomDark