Fanatec Podium Racing Wheel F1 [DD1] Review [PC]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 พ.ค. 2020
- Hey guys, longer video than usual today, but then again the Fanatec Podium Racing Wheel F1 is a fairly weighty subject. A few first for me in this one. There's an unboxing of sorts, and some interesting motion stuff which I'm quite proud of. And of course, lots of direct drive goodness, all before the watershed!
The Podium Racing Wheel F1 is Fanatec's first direct drive wheel designed to work on the Playstation platform. It's essentially Fanatec's regular DD1 PC wheelbase, with the addition of, (I presume) software that's designed to work properly with Sony's current gen consoles alongside the PC. And, again I presume, it will likely be forward compatible with the next generation console as well. Though, of course, Fanatec won't be able to confirm that yet.
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Timestamps - skip away gents!
00:28 - Introduction
01:07 - About the Fanatec Podium Racing Wheel F1
02:38 - What is a Direct Drive Wheel?
03:48 - The DD1 Wheelbase for PS4 & PC
07:39 - The Fanatec F1 Wheel Rim
12:45 - Driving Experience
16:29 - Summary
18:00 - Direct Drive FAQs
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Ethan Meyer 2cnd comment hahaha
3rd
"Your gripping power may vary depending on your past times." great job chris
Never let the opportunity for some bad taste humour go to waste ;)
I deadlift to prepare myself for a DD upgrade :)
@@JSmith73 I think you missed the joke
@@Intray or perhaps I was just giving a nod towards the fisherman's master bait? :)
Why am iwatching this? I cant afford a G920...
rip
Swallowed my greed and bought a G29 years ago and served me well
But ita not good for my wellbeing watching these videos. One day!
i dream for a fanatec too🤩waiting until XBoxSeriesX is out& then maybe i change from G920 & my nice XBoxX to Fanatec& SeriesX 🏎💤
i own the non ps4 version of his setup for almost a year now and i watched this regardless. no idea why :D
Oof I ordered one last week and they cancelled my order because of no availability
It's kind of annoying how your videos are so good and high quality yet you don't get as many views as I would hope for from a channel like this...
Heh, thanks. This youtube thing is a marathon, that's for sure :)
yeah chris's videos remind me of mkbhd videos..... superb production quality
I have owned this wheel for 4 weeks now and its 100% worth every penny, the magnetic shifters are on another level
Agree on the shifter mate - every bit as good as any of the crazy expensive stuff I've used. Kinda makes a mockery of the older shifters though XD
I agree. I've had mine for about 8 months, and it's just an incredible bit of kit. I personally think the wheel itself it's absolutely beautiful, and the motor is incredible. However, my Fanatec pedal set has left a lot to be desired in terms of reliability (clutch pedal spring came off after only a couple of months) and the cockpit they offer is downright hard to use
I have mine since December and use it daily!
I absolutely love every second i spend using it. :)
@@SuperPITSteelers check out the SimLabs P1-X cockpit. Barry at sim racing garage has a great review. Solid easy build and costs less than fanatec! Cheers
Want to set me one :)
My inner 12 year old: Get it! Get it!
My bank account (and wife): Nope!
FYI: The left analog joystick is awesome when playing in VR. My hands never have to leave the steering weel to control the mouse in assetto corsa.
there are joysticks..?
@@abramo7700 the left one is yes, the right one is more or less a d pad that also can click as a button and is a rotary encoder
@@abramo7700 if you closely watch the vid Chris talks about it
I like the blue.
Heh, that's legit. I'm not a fan ;)
@@ChrisHaye Yeah, never going to please everyone with aesthetics like that. Reminds me of the Elise 135R interior though.
Its the only PS DD wheel out there. Of course its going to be blue.
@@ChrisHaye I think the carbon looks nice
The rest of the blue is a bit over the top
Excellent video, well worth the time, and your style and presentation is a joy. Some people doing reviews etc not enjoyable to watch , you are. Thank you.
I love the blue.
Nice vid and I have just bought a 2nd hand one on the strength of this video and it lives up to my expectations. Many thanks for your guidance
Brilliantly presented Chris. Well done!
Another perfect vid. Very informative. Much appreciated.
Please keep up the good work.
Thankyou Mr. Haye.
A couple of things that I didn't hear be mentioned:
-the LED screen on the wheelbase itself also allows customisation and saving of different settings like degrees of turn, FFB gain, etc.
-the push buttons on the wheel have removable and customisable button caps
Ultra smooth review. Very pleasant to watch and listen to. Subbed!
My progression went from G29 to Fanatec Clubsport V2.5 to my current OSW Simucube 1 with 20 Nm motor. When I upgraded to the V2.5, I was amazed at how smooth it felt, and how much clearer the FFB was. I could tell the difference between normal road bumps and curbing, for instance. However, the biggest difference was in how much easier it was to make corrections, especially catching slides. Then when I went to the OSW, it was like the same big step up all over again. The fidelity, depending on the sim of course, is just unreal. The ability to feel the limit allows me to not just catch slides, but to anticipate and control them. It's not just about the feel either, but also the responsiveness. It's a bit of a pandora's box. If you've never used one, you don't know what you're missing. But once you do, everything else just feels subpar.
So glad for this review! Can’t believe I didn’t sub before but did it just now 😅 as I saw your other videos before when I was interested in sim racing. I do love the color scheme of the wheel as if I had to choose between a lot of the same wheel, hands down would still go blue as it is my favorite color 🏎💙💛💙😊!!
Great video Chris well explained it will be a future purchase and can’t wait. Love your work mate hope your family are all well. Keep making great videos. 👍
There's a reason why I bought it... your review! As always a mighty job!
Great review. You make a good point about the rig as that what made me upgrade to a CSL ELite rather than save hard for a DD. I have nowhere to put a rig sturdy enough to contain one of these. Therefore my next big simracing upgrade comes with the small cost of buying a bigger house!
One of the best reviews i saw on yt (and I’ve seen it A LOT), very honest and informative at least for us g29 users who are considering upgrade:)
Chris, your a lad, your such an inspiration, thank you for everything
3 thoughts to share: 1. Really great review. 2. As I get older, I find my personal porn preferences are almost exclusively focusing on reviews of impossibly expensive, beautiful and unattainable racing sim gear. 3. I would hate to get into a war of words with Chris - he can draw blood with just a slight tonal inflection!
Love your type of humour Chris. Keep on going
Great job Chris. Loved the "alter ego" word flashes.
I actually quite like the Smurf blue... Thanks for the great video as always, Chris!
Same!
Great review, and interesting to hear you compare it to your OSW!👌👍
Good to hear they didn't fail to compete with the existing DD wheels, I'm a while away from wanting to replace my current wheel but when I upgrade I don't want to lose console compatibility, I might not play console games often but I don't want to use a different wheel for PC than for consoles.
Well done, Chris!
Very informative and at the same time entertaining review. Professional cut and quality and of course deep knowledge about the matter. And it it was to the point so it actually makes you watch the whole video.
If you need a bigger steering wheel for other racing series then please let us know and we hook you up with something. We have plenty different colours available ;)
Thomas Jackermeier I have no idea how this comment is so over looked???? Thomas Jackermeier is the founder of Endor aka Fanatec...and I finally just saved up and bought a whole lot from you guys! Can’t wait!
The "notchiness" is due to the motor being brushless, so it has a permanent magnet. The MiGe motors you find in other DD kits are brushed, which is why they feel smooth. You can do this with drills too. Take one that is brushed, and another that is brushless, and you will feel the same thing when you turn them.
They are Both brushless motors mige inrunner and fanatec outrunner...same technology different construction
Nice job on the video. Went dd2. Really enjoying it
Hi Chris, Great review , just ordered.
Great, honest review. Love it!
Your videos are incredible mate. Cheers
Thasks dude. Much appreciated. :)
Great video man, as always
Nice. I have had DD1 PC/XB1 with Formula V2 with V3 pedal's for a week and absolutely loving it having upgraded from T300 Alcantara. The encoders though Fanatec obviously believe better to be too easy to move than too hard but I give 9/10 if not more
Your sarcasm is gold, subbed just for that 😎
Very enjoyable, keep up the smut too! Needed a good laugh
So, I talked to an Engineer at Fanatec (just kidding, I really didn't); and they confirmed the color choice of blue and gold quick release was a tip of the hat to Subaru World Rally color schemes. ;-)
Chris.. you're so talented! You deserve a show on tv ❤
Excellent review mate! Just subscribed! Cheers
"Hand Juices", thats my new term of thd day.
I find that the thumb wheels make decent volume controls. But you're right, they're too "loose" to use for anything that may affect the car. Great video!
I've had this set for a month now and I love it. I was skeptical about the blue but I've fallen for it now and I've actually been color matching my rig and gear. The main point of this comment is I agree with Chris about the thumb wheels. They are easy to bump as I've done it more than once in any given race. I've used it for BB or ARB 's and I've completely stopped using them and I came up with a different control scheme. I hope they or someone comes up with a mod or a replacement for those. They just need a stronger detente. Given the cost that should be a no brainier. The toggles should be better, they seem like an after thought.
That IS the only gripes I have. Keep up the great work Chris!
Daaang! It’s beautiful!! It’s always been a dream to have one since I was like 11or 12. I now have a G29 without the shifter witch I don’t mind. But when it comes to the wheel it just doesn’t feel how I want it to. Don’t get me wrong. It is still very fun and pretty on point. So I’d definitely recommend it to people that can’t/don’t want to spend a crap ton of $$$. I myself want, want one of these bad boys. Lol I want that firm heavy feel.
Great video brother. I love everything you do man. Keep up the great work! You are a legend!!💯💯🤙
Great video, really enjoyed it.
Currently debating replacing my old OSW v2 with a DD2 and Porsche wheel combo so this information is welcomed.
Just a small note, the price comparison isn't completely fair, the price of the OSW is excluding tax and that would add 21% for most Europeans, besides the fact that you can't get it any more.
Though the new VRS direct force pro is about 1000 euro including taxes, and Barry's review is definitely going to sell a lot of those units.
Great review!
Superb video! Very happy with my SC2 pro which I chose over Fanatec for the simple reason I wanted HE pedals and didn't really care about the 'ecosystem'.
Pretty sure I'd love the DD wheels though...
Great video as usual Chris. I've just ordered the DD1 bundle with Clubsport Formula V2 rim and advanced paddle shifter module. It's basically identical to the one you just showed here, except black alcantara and minus the F1 logo, saving me 150 euros. One feature you didn't mention which I personally will be using sometimes, is the ability to use the analogue paddles for accelerator and brake. I have limited use of my legs, so this will still let me race even when my legs are not up to it. 😎👍
Accelerator and brake paddles are a great feature, good on you! Wish i could afford one. Hope you enjoy it man.
@@kevinharkness2108 Thanks mate... I currently strap my feet to the pedals, so looking forward to trying out the paddles.
It might just be me but I really like the colour scheme and especially that shade of blue looks really cool in my opinion
Great rev. Man!
just bought one of these ... can't wait to put it through its paces
shipped this morning
@@designamk1160 I have received my orders. Shipping was on time.
Mate, your reviews are really informative AND enjoyable. thanks!
Great review Chris. I have the Fanatec CSL Elite wheelbase and it's very good, coming from a Logitech G29. It was a vast improvement. A DD wheel maybe in my future one day. I got the SimLab GT1 Evo a few months ago.
A great rig!
Great video Chris.
I watched it all the way through.
Now, all I need to do is figure out where I can get 2 grand, lol :)
I use the mouse function on the left joystick all the time, since I'm always driving in VR and can't reach around to find the desktop mouse. It makes older games not made for VR (like Assetto Corsa) much easier to use while in VR
Great review Chris. Thank you. And an additional Comment on Fanatec Service. I've been a Fanatec customer for a few years now, Big fan. But, I ordered the PS4 DD1 over a month ago. First delivery was a great looking as you describe (despite the blue). But, the base never recognized the wheel and the fan went full speed as soon as it was powered. I took video and Fanatec asked me to repackage and send back (said they would reimburse me for shipping). I sent back and show they received over 3 weeks ago and not yet shipped a new one. Several polite but direct email sent with very rare responses with no real answers. Just received a Fedex notification so it may be shipped soon.
All that to say, I like the products, but the customer service for such an expensive piece of kit is very disappointing. Disappointing the first was defective and the lack of urgency to make things right makes me question the priorities of the company.
Hope others have better experiences!
Fanatec's customer service is the main thing keeping me from a DD1 in the near future. I've heard too many horror stories similar to yours. A few of them coming from people whom I know personally.
Typical Fanatec experience.
I really liked the video, always very well put together. Could you do a video on input lag? Then maybe you could fix yours as I have never seen such bad input lag lol.
I dig the blue trim. also makes a talk piece, if you're using it in the living room
I love the blue aesthetic and that is a hill I will absolutely die on.
Nice review
Love the dd1 podium.
New Chris haye video and I ain't complaining
This one's got a lot more smurfs in it than most.
Good review. I've been the owner of a DD1 since it first came out last year, paired with Formula V2 and BMW GT2 rims. Firstly, direct drive has changed my life (upgraded from a G29). There's no going back. Though, many of the downsides you've noted (formula rim being MUCH too small, rotary encoders/buttons being weak/poorly designed, notchiness in the motor, etc.) have been things that I've struggled with as well. In addition, the BMW rim I have squeaks loudly under any bit of force feedback (tried tightening literally everything, Fanatec says it's just something the wheel does), the quick release is REALLY poorly designed and not intuitive at all (it lacks any real positive connection and while driving I can feel some play in the QR>wheel connection when rocking the wheel side to side), and the amount of software tuning options available limits just how good you can make a car feel. Though smoothing filters have been added in firmware (which rescued it from being REALLY sharp feeling when it first came out), it's hard to get a sweet spot dialed in where the wheel is still reactive and detailed but you don't get FFB spikes when going over kerbs. I'm almost always making tweaks to get it to feel right, but there is an abrasive quality that is hard to dial out (not to mention the entire system rattles under high FFB and makes loud notchy/blocky plastic sounds). Additionally, I've always been bothered by the seeming lack of any FFB when turning the wheel at slow speed/stand-still. In a real car, you can feel the tires scrubbing against the asphalt and that puts resistance in the steering column. With the DD1, it just feels glassy and too easy to turn. The Natural Friction effect helps marginally in this regard, but it still doesn't feel.... genuine. All-in-all, it just doesn't culminate in an experience that was worth the price tag for me. I have a Simucube 2 Pro on order for delivery in June with a buyer lined up for my Fanatec ecosystem. If you are reading this and are a prospective direct drive buyer who is persnickety about details- I would shy away from the Fanatec stuff. I have really enjoyed the DD1 for introducing me to the direct drive world, but it is not the ultimate experience for me.
How does the SC2 compare if you don’t mind answering?
@@SM87692 It's amazing. Every single issue I had with the DD1/fanatec wheels is just not a problem on the SC2. FFB feels amazing and I was able to get it dialed in on every title in less than a couple weeks. The quality of the wheelbase and software is exceptional. The software filters actually do something! It's a night and day difference.
To be fair, even a belt driven wheel would have been a big improvement over the G29.
Paragraphs man, use em
Great informative video!
Imagine buying this wheel now for your Playstation 4. And in a couple of months when the Playstation 5 comes out it won't be compatible. I'm thinking of buying this wheel as an upgrade as long as there is 100% confirmation from Fanatec it will be compatible with the Playstation 5.
Same boat, if they confirm PS5 compatibility and/or release a new PS5 model it's the main thing I'm waiting for before putting any serious thought toward DD. I absolutely plan on getting a PS5 (my first console in a decade, not counting the Switch) and Gran Turismo 7.
Get some good pedals and a sturdy rig before going direct drive.
I have this wheel and I have to say, coming from a g29... it's outstanding obviously. The only gripe I have with it is that I might need to send my rim back after about 4 months of use. There's a loud rattle coming from one of the handgrips, I suspect something with the vibrating motor but I'm not sure. I got the whole thing on sale for $1,400 and I'm loving every second of it!
@3:25 That input lag tho
Awesome Video
Nice vid bro👌
That is some quality content!
You should try it 😜
New v365 drivers are money and fixed all issues and clunks from prior releases and cut response time in half for the FFB. The wheel is perfect now!
Yeah, I was lucky enough to not have to deal with the earlier drivers. All smooth sailing for me ;)
@@ChrisHaye me as well. Just got the DD2 delivered the day the new drivers dropped. It's been smooth sailing and flawless the entire time. Great review man!
I recently started using the left joystick after a tip from another channel as a view buttun, left/right iracing and back in other sims, works perfect for me and never used the left joystick before.
The way you talk it reminds me of Tom Clarkson F1 👌
The blue is beautiful in my opinion
Yellow and blue work great
That blue is astonishing! what you mean Chris
"technically speaking" broke me up in laughter. Spot on.
I got it and after driving it you'll never want anything else!! 🤩🤩🤩
Until you use a Simucube 2 pro or ultimate.
@@MatthewEGolden Exactly!
I love the blue
i think the blue looks cool maybe its because blue is my favorite color
I love the Blue and Gold/Yellow way more than the standard Orange
Great video! Hope one day I can get one :)
Most excellent review, I really enjoyed it. Very slick production as well.
What was your reference point for 20% better - a CSW2.5? Thanks!
(Also what do you think of the F1 2020 rim.. have a feeling you'd like that colour scheme a lot more, and the leather might make using the rotaries easier if you're ok to not use gloves).
Yo love your vids
Hi Chris!
Thank you for yet another brilliant video. I see you have the Sim-lab GT1 Evo. Can you recommend this one, or would you spend double and go P1-X?
Chris - The color of this wheel set is blue in order to match the theme color of SONY Playstation. If you go to the Playstation website the main color is blue. Most everything relating to SONY Playstation is "blue."
Thank you for the complete review. One question what compatibility is there for fantecs other previous wheel rims they offer or aftermarket wheels?
I use the left joystick for fuel and ERS in F1. Tap up/down to adjust fuel, left/right to adjust ERS
I’m not sure whether you’ve been watching the Supercars eSeries but regarding the question about “does DD wheels make you faster” all the feed back from the professional race drivers yes. I listen to various podcast involving Supercar drivers and while they don’t directly talk about DD systems they do mention how much quicker the better equipment makes them. The Supercars eSeries has a mix of drivers that sim race in their spare time and those that don’t at all. It’s been interesting watching the drivers upgrade their systems as the series progress. Almost all are using DD systems at this point and all are using load cell pedals which we all know by now give you the biggest turn of speed. Just thought it was interesting the difference in opinion, maybe that consistency you get from better equipment which translates into a faster over race distance is what the drivers are getting at.
No wheel bases make you faster.
@Chris Haye, great content as always bud, keep it up. Can I ask what gloves you use?
Here's a tip for anyone playing f1 2020 on a ps4 using the dd1. Put the force feedback to 135 in the game wheel settings for the dd1. This will help tighten your steering in the wheel when making tight turns. No more loose feel in the wheel.
Hello Chris,
Amazing video. Informative and clear.
I have a question, what are the Sparco gloves you're wearing? They look perfect for sim racing. Thank you!
watching this while playing acc on my nearly falling apart T150 :(
I tend to use the joystick to look around in Iracing and RF2, easy to use and obviously self centred too
I actually like the color scheme, and the wheel still looks like premium equipment.
My issue is that this is the only wheel they offer with the DD1 that is PS4 compatible.
I don't do F1 type racing as I prefer Nascar and GT racing.
Great video again. I’m wondering why a lot of your videos looks look like the VO is slightly dragging behind the video. I noticed this the first time watching but I keep seeing it happen. Are the video and audio not perfectly sunk for an artistic reason?
There is def movement in the podium hub though. Quite extensive actually. Real bummer!
Interesting video...
Great vid but your comment on “what works best for you” regarding using desk clamps or less than suitable mounting rigs while not unfair, could be followed up with something like “but you’re really not extracting the full potential from its capabilities or the full value especially considering the cost”.
I think the Blue Alcantara looks great. I think I will buy the Fanatec Podium F1. Been using G29 with PlaySeat for years and want to upgrade but I guess the PlaySeat will not be rigid enough for the DD1. My question is which chassis to get, the P1-X sim racing chassis or S1 simulator by rseat. New to your channel, watched many other sim youtubers but you explain things best in a calm and honest way.
I like the blue. I'm pretty sure we can buy black grips for it if desired.