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Lenovo T470 unboxing and boot up with 1TB PCI-E SSD, size comparison with T450s
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 มี.ค. 2017
- Unboxing of the new Lenovo ThinkPad T470 with one terabyte NVM-e PCI-E solid state drive and 32 gigabytes of RAM. Comparison in size with the Lenovo t450s.
I'm getting a second hand T470 soon and looking at past videos. Thank you for the informative video Robert (RIP).
Thanks so much for the review - especially for comparing the T470 against the T450s! I have the T450s and the T470p, but am thinking about picking up a second-hand T470 (they're so cheap now!). I'd love to get my hands on a T480, but the price is way to high for me at the moment - I'll wait until the second-hand T480's hit the market.
BTW - I run Linux on a T450s, and it's still awesome. I haven't had any issues with speed or performance for what I use it for. I have noticed it kind of struggles when I try to screen-record 1080p at 60fps, but it still manages to get the job done.
The only reason why I'm going to purchase a T470 is for the Thunderbolt port - I want to use an eGPU. I know the T470's Thunderbolt 3 port is only wired up to 2 PCIe lanes, meaning max throughput is something like 16Gb/s, but that's okay with me (I'll mostly be doing CUDA stuff, so I'm not too worried about driving multiple 4K displays).
Anyway, thanks again for the review - I'm a huge ThinkPad fan.
Just ordered a T470 yesterday. Cannot wait to see it three weeks later!
Did you get it in Yuiun? Can you provide some insight? I heard lots of conflicting reports about an adapter being needed to use a PCIe NVME SSD if someone orders with a 500GB HDD with intention to replace ourselves.
I got it from the Lenovo official website. I ordered the regular SSD version (not the nvme one). What I heard is that the original port is for HDD, and they add an adapter for SSD. I would recommend the regular SSD version and replace it with nvme SSD in the future if necessary. The intel 180GB SSD hard disk works pretty well and I doubt how much faster the NVME one would be considering the huge amount of money you need to pay for the upgrade.
Did you get it yet
It's hard to believe he died a month after making this video. He had this laptop with him on his deathbed.
Rest in piece absolute legend 👊💯
Rest In Peace Robert, you were taken from this world too soon. :(
Devin McDonald he died?
@@eNGAGERsMITH A month after he made this video.
RIP
RIP
Nice instruction.....watching this with my T570 with 12GB of RAM.
I just ordered a T470, I like that it''s easy to upgrade. Mine is shipping with just 8GB of RAM, I plan to upgrade it to 16 GB so I'm really hoping that it arrives with one 8 GB stick rather than having both RAM slots filled with a 4GB.
Planning on getting it. How has it held up for you please
I used to buy sell laptops so ive had a few shall we say and hand on heart this machine is exactly what i needed i do lot of video work and it handles everything no lagging great battery as well i carnt fault it really need to be recommended to you out there if your thinking of a new laptop lenovo thinkpads all the way!
Gutes Video vom Auspacken bis zum Hochladen. 😎👍. Habe mir den Laptop ebenfalls besorgt.
Thanks! I really appreciate the thickness comparison.
Thank you, Robert.
*new laptop comes in* hey guys look at this new laptop I got im going to immediatly open it to upgrade" Same bro. Same.
i bought a used x230 ... in 2 hours of purchasing it it was dismantled into bits to clean it and swap the thermal paste
The internal 'non removable' battery is actually user replaceable in that it isn't soldered in. So since you can open the laptop (with some pain :-) ), you can replace that battery when it goes EOL. Unlike a Macbook!
I am glad they changed the finish on the lid, and the plastic on the palmrest . If they would put the old hinges and the keyboard with the blue enter back like it was on t420, this would be the best laptop.
I have a t460 ... and I love it
Rest in peace Robert !!
I was looking for a good comparision laptop for my X270 and find this video on the T470. And as always after wacthing video's im reading the comments. And found out he already past away? It's hard to believe. May God bless his soul.
Do you use it for video editing? Is it much better than 450s?
How is the battery life?
Thanks!
this may have been posted already but your shutdown startup test was with the windows 10 quick start feature enabled (which is on by default). it did not shut down completely (it is basically hibernation). you can see that by the power led blinking before going off. I turn this setting off as I often boot to Linux os via USB and or dual boot.
pcie in this laptop makes a difference but it cannot fully utilize the latest m.2 drives as it only has 2 lanes. still a great laptop either way.
Latches - "Easy as that"
Not an improvement over access to T440p internals.
I had a T410s previously and it held up well but it had limited storage options and poor battery performance.
Just grabbed a T440p, upgraded to a backlit keyboard and SSD. Super easy to work on. Doing a trackpad or palmrest swap looks a little more difficult but not impossible.
T440p is a much thicker machine. Not a fair comparison at all.
T410s VS T440p is a long different generation mate..
T410? Where did that come from???
what is the battery life with the core i7 7600u using the 3 cell removable battery. Thank you
Thanks for sharing this HD video!
I am confused between X1 carbon and T470. I have used T460 and loved the keyboard. Not sure if X1 carbon has same key depth or response. please suggest
Just purchased the T470 this week, runs very will with only 8GB of memory but have already purchased an additional 16GB taking the memory to 24GB. Let me know how this system performed for you overall. Thanks
Hey - How do you feel about the screen quality? This laptop seems 99% perfect for me but I'm worried about how good the screen would be? I would've loved the 1440p option but it doesn't allow you to choose it with the T470. I program on a 27 inch 1440p screen at the moment and I think I may have become "used" to it.
to peel the cover I start in the middle of the battery compartment and work my way outward
What is the cable with the AC adapter to the left of the laptop for? And what cable are you using for power? I have a used T-470 and a dock.and the dock is powered by a USB cable plugged in the back that has a AC adapter like the one in your video I was asking about. I also have another power cable with AC adapter also that has a USB-C at the other end that I use when I take the laptop somewhere. There is a port on the left side towards the rear marked with a power symbol. Do you have a cable for that one? I did not get a cable for that one.
It's sad to see you struggling to open the laptop just to replace minor parts. It seems that Lenovo is trashing the good old "form following function" design of ThinkPads and is trying to become more like Apple. Less user-friendly, thinner and lighter design by compromising many classic features, etc. ThinkPads were the favorite of many people because they were easy to deal with, but unfortunately Lenovo is making newer ThinkPads less appealing to those people. We should have realized what was going on when ThinkPads started to have 16:9 screens and 6-row chicklet keyboards.
Do you need to turn off the internal battery before swapping out the ram, IF you do this when it is brand new out of box? Will it be drained already?
32GB of RAM, absolute mad man!!!!
Hate how the left CTRL key is positioned, gonna mess it with Fn a lot.
IKR me too.
Wow so much in common.
thanks for sharing. Do you know if it is possible to change the CPU? I have a T470 with i5 and would like to upgrade to i7.
I need one but can,t afford it.I came from needy family..Please give me one old one to use as free..
Is it really thinner? Have you noticed that rubber stands on the bottom has been redesigned? If you want to compare sizes of these two, please lay them upside down.
I am ready to buy this except that I hear the screen is very dim on this model. It reportedly only has 230 nits. What has been your experience with it? I will be doing some graphic design and video editing but most of all, coding.
As your video is the only source to get to know more about t470, would request you to post another video to show all ports, internals such as where to insert sim card , performance , thunderbold port and any other details which would help people willing to buy this one. So far lenovo site has the HD display option. Not sure which one you have. If you post the video that covers display quality etc.. would be a great help. thank you.
Sudarshan sridhar All the ports can be viewed on the Lenovo website. They have lots of high resolution photos that show all of the port locations, which is why I didn't bother showing them on the video. This is the 1080p Full HD IPS screen. It is very similar to the Full HD screen that I had on the T450s. If screen quality is really important to you, you may want to wait for the higher resolution screen with better color accuracy that will be available with the T470s.
6 months later and the video is still pretty much the only good source on youtube :)
Nice walk-through and lovely baby :)
If anyone can help me on this question much would be appreciated. What is the screen like on the HD option 1920x1080? what could I use to reference the quality from in terms of another laptop? The computer stores around me do not sell the thinkpad series.
Nice video. Thank you. :)
I just got my T470 with 4 GB of RAM and intend to add 8 GB. Could you please provide a link for a compatible RAMam? Either Crucial or Samsung?
Also, will I be able to make use of dual channel with this 4 GB + 8 GB setup? Or do I have to have 8 GB + 8 GB? Thanks again.
You have to get 8GB + 8GB for dual channel
Thanks For the Video.
I am going to purchase T470 Model: 20HEA02EIG (India)
One thing I would like to Know about This laptop is Does this have WWAN port?
So I can upgrade Second Hard Disk ( SSD )
I was set on getting a Dell Precision 13 but after seeing this I'm in 2 minds now. I'm after a business laptop with touchscreen and long battery life. Is the processor Kaby Lake and is the battery hot swappable?
Hey what battery config do you have? the 48watt hour 6cell or that 3cell one? I'm concerned if the 48 watt hour 6 cell extends out of the chassis
iggywow the slim battery that stays flush is the 3 cell one and the 6 cell does stick out
Does it matter what brand the upgrade RAM comes from?
It can matter because not all vendors support all RAM brands. So we know Crucial is supported here.
Came here for the info on the T470, but saw the other comments and the poster's blog at www.robertyale.com/cancer-blog/
So sad.
I would like to thank you for time and dedication you took in answering all the relevant questions.
I couldn't make up my mind what to get between the Dell XPS 15 9560 , T407 and the T407P
Still confused though-They seem so similar
just google xps coil whine
So Del is a no :#
xps is too thin for proper heat dissipation, t470 is perfect for that
Bear in mind, there is no power on light on the brick, no HD activity light, no WiFi hard switch, and hard insert/remove SD card, no latch on the lid, no finger indent on lid, and hard to read F keys.... Opening case, will guarantee breakage of plastic tabs.... all form over function.
T430s, I feel, is the last of the physically well designed workstations. The new ThinkPads suffer from the Jobs Efect, or Ives Effect.
Hi! Robert, how much did you pay for the T470 with the original configuration?
this guy died 2 weeks ago, check out his website, it's "his name".com
I'm not an emotional person, but his blog made me cry. What a brave and strong man. I hope his family are doing well.
Shit, he was a good dude. I always liked his videos.
life is bitch
RIP
He became only 2 years older than I am now and he seems like a very decent guy I would have liked to know personally.
Fuck you, cancer.
damn
Please tell where do you put a Pcie drive on a sata slot. Does it come with both connectors ?
maybe you know about t470s screen :) Is Full HD version have PWM? Cannot find any spec regarding this. THanks in advance
Hi, thanks for awesome review! ))
Could anybody tell me, does touchpad has such good work with gestures as dell xps 13/15 (9350/60, 9550/60) ? Course Thinkpad t560 has poor work with touchpad gestures in comparison with dell xps.
Thanks a lot!
Good clean entertainment watching the struggle
I've never bought a new Thinkpad lol, always used after 3-4 years. Currently I'm rocking a T450, bought it a week ago, it came with the shitty TN 768p panel but I've got a IPS 1080p upgrade coming in the mail.
How is the heat dissipation (excess heat, fan noise, etc) and battery life on the i7 variant? I'm currently on the fence between an i7 and i5 in this laptop, but I've heard i7s in portables sometimes have issues with thermal throttling and battery life.
Cutty Fred Haven't seen any thermal throttling yet, even when doing processor intensive workloads... The fan does speed up and get noticeably louder under load, but it seems to keep it cool enough.
Can you drive 2 external monitors simultaneously? e.g. 1x 1080p and other ultra wide 21:9. Resolution, 2560 x 1080? Do you know if 2 external monitors are supported by video card or is more like DisplayLink technology?
Bartek Sońta With the new Intel 620 integrated graphics, it can drive dual 4K monitors (3840x2160) via display port if you use the ultra docking station. I currently am running dual QHD screens (2560x1440), and it works beautifully. I just ordered two 32" 4K monitors, and will update you on how that goes. In any case, this will run the monitor resolutions you are interested in with no problems over either HDMI or DisplayPort.
why the hell lenovo made the removement of the bottom cover such a challenge..c´mon
have you noticed any 220khz PWM issues with t470 screen?
How's the battery life treating you with the 3 cell rear battery an 7600U? Does your model comes with the GTX 940MX too? Thank you!
syaosakucouple used it for almost 7 hours on battery today, doing mostly Office type work, with WiFi and bright screen. this has the Intel HD Graphics.
Thank you! Do you know how much weight will the 6cell 48wh battery add to the default 3+3 configuration?
Does this one have the ‘soft’ top feeling like the t430?
Try and test boot time after a half full SSD and all the usual 20 programs :)
Is that the backlit keyboard? If it is not how is the texture of the keys? Is it matte like the old models, glossy or rough?
Hampus Baaz yes, this is the backlit keyboard. The texture of the keys is identical to my T450s.
Which is for those who still rock the old T420?
May I know how is the thermal management on the T470?
Thank you for the video. I am having a T420, the last one before they came up with chiclets keyboard and p,s versions. Guess there is no type C isn't? Could you please 1) post the link you bought the RAM from 2) also the link where I can buy the exact screw driver. I see that T4X0s wondering whats the difference between a T460 and T460p.
RIP to Robert Yale. The bottom cover design for the T470 looks horrible. I saw our IT guy completely mangle the clips after mine spontaneously died to get into the inside. Almost every video I have seen, people break the clips, then the bottom cover never seats properly. My old company dell e6440 laptop had 2 screws and bang you were inside. My mother's company HP just had one screw to take off the bottom cover off.
So I tried T450s and T460s and I hated the touchpad. Such a deal breaker for me! Also the battery life on the T460s was around 3h for me. I have a T420 right now which I'm quite happy with except the weight. The touchpad is much better than the 450s and 460s. I'm not sure how can such a thing happen. Is the touchpad different on this one ?
The T series has not really changed since the T440 besides adding back the trackpoint buttons in the T450.
The touch pad is a lot bigger, which I prefer. 😀
Which battery did you choose ? Is it the 3cell or the 6cell one? thanks in advance
FOX897 3 cell. The six cell extends out the back of the computer.
Thank you very much, is what I thought but I'm never too sure :p
Hello, I want to buy T470, but I am very confused whether I can buy the 500 HDD version and then upgrade it with PCIe SSD?
I guess from the comments above that's possible. Do you know if that config is available in China?
where i can buy pcie adapter for sata like yours?
Any idea as to whether or not the akitio node will work well with this laptop?
Joel Should work fine via the Thunderbolt 3 interface.
Does it come wit thunderbolt 3? Does your hard drive have recovery partition? How much its size?
Fakhrulhilal Maktum yes, it has a Thunderbolt 3 port. The recovery partition takes up 1GB.
Do you have OEM partition in it? It should be around 1-20GB
Nice video thank you :)
On lenovo's site it says "Processor Up to 7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7 Processor" Is this a quadcore or just an ultrabook style dualcore?
Reuben Horner this is the dual core i7-7600u. Have to step up to the T470p if you want quad core.
Is the wrist-resting area on either side creaky/squeaky?
Eric Mark Very solid on both sides. No noticeable give on either when placed on a hard, flat surface. A little give on the left side when docked in the Thinkpad Ultra docking station, but that is from the dock, not the computer.
I thought the T470 really is just an upgraded machine based on the T450s chassis... Correct me if I'm wrong.
Mingcong Bai The T470 is an entirely new chassis.
What rear battery is that?
how is this one compatible with linux？ heard the battery life is as well as windows.
ThinkPads work extremely well with Linux by and large. This particular one is Ubuntu and RHL certified...
certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201702-25371/
support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd104608
What made you buy the Thinkpad when the Dell XPS 15 provides similar specs, and build quality, with a much better screen, battery and an much more powerful graphics card ?
Nachiket Vartak the XPS is a much larger computer. I have no desire to lug around a 15.6" screen laptop. And I have yet to find a Dell (business series or otherwise) that has a build quality that comes anywhere near that of Lenovo.
Thanks for your reply. Though you might be surprised that the thin bezels on the Dell XPS make it only about 1 inch wider than that T450S. The weight difference is 200g. the XPS series is aluminium + carbon fibre, compared to Lenovo's magnesium-aluminium alloy. Build quality is on par. I suppose I am a little disappointed that as a Thinkpad user, the performance upgrade options Lenovo offered in late 2016-early 2017 were devastatingly mediocre. I mean, Intel Graphics 620, 46 Wh battery, last generation dedicated low end GPU (if at all) for a 2100 € laptop. Poor show.
dell xps has not good keyboard , even their arrow keys looks dumb. Thinkpad for those who like to type.
XPS is not even dell's business series, only latitude series is on par with thinkpad.
I've tried typing on XPS 13 keyboard at a shop but it was frustrating. Especially the arrow keys are cramped. I suppose XPS 15 has the same sort of keyboard. The only thing I dislike about the thinkpad keyboard is that the position of Fn key is where the CTRL key should be...
want to buy one but i want to make sure that the charger can work on 220 volt not only 110v? can you please verify that for me, please?
Ziyad606 I think the AC adapters that come with these laptops are multi-voltage.
Hi, if u still have the t430s, i would appreciate that u can do a size comparison as well. Thanks.
MrDreamie I don't have the T430s anymore, but I can tell you that the T450s is smaller than the T430s on every dimension, so the T470 is noticeably smaller compared to the T430s.
how much did the machine cost excluding courier service?
ishmail matake I use a friend's IBM employee purchase program login to get EPP pricing. this system as configured (1080p screen, 1TB PCI-E SSD, 16GB RAM, fingerprint reader, Windows 10 Pro Signature edition, backlit keyboard, Intel wireless, etc.) was just under $1500 USD. I added on the 3 year warranty + accidental damage protection, the ThinkPad Ultra dock, and an extra power cable and the entire purchase price was just over $1950.
How can I get that wallpaper?
They really should get the old keyboard and trackpad back.
true
GET THIS MAN AN OPENING PICK
how come i only see 14” HD (1366 x 768) on their website?
wondering the same
Depends on the region. I think US is HD only right now but e.g. UK can get HD, FHD and touch FHD.
Should I use a single or dual rank RAM memory upgrade for the T470?
Alex Michaud I bought with one 16gb module and upgraded with a second 16gb module for a dual channel config.
Oh I get how it works now (sorry I'm new to this). Is it ok to mix memories? I bought mine with 4GB can I buy an additional 8GB for a total of 12GB or am I stuck with only adding another 4GB?
You can add 8GB in the second slot but that means you cannot use "dual-channel configuration". It requires two modules of the same size and has a significant impact on the iGPU performance (20-30%). 8+8 is a good choice and an upgrade will be still cheaper comparing to the Lenovo website.
hello, How you get 1920 x 1080 display? It only shows 1366x768 on their official website. Thanks
Martin ZHANG They must be waiting for supply... I ordered on the day of release, so the 1080p option was available at the time.
Can't believe a system like this is even available with 1366x768...
Can the T470 be set up to use both a HDD and a SSD installed along side each other?
Alex E You can put a standard HDD in the main HD caddy, and a small SSD in the m.2 slot. But you cannot use a PCI-E SSD and a 2.5 inch HDD at the same time.
Can you boot from the m.2 slot.? I was thinking of using the m.2 slot for boot and the 2.5 inch for mass storage?
Alex E you can, but the m.2 drives that fit are half height, so they are only available in smaller sizes, and they are considerably slower.
it has twin battery?
an internal battery allows you to hotswap the external battery without powering off
What i don't get is why the 1440p screen is only available on the t470s
xellestar It's all about money. 💰
sure, but the slim model surely should be the one to have features missing, in order to achieve its thinner form factor. As I understood it the non-slim is basically the one that should have more feature options at the expensive of a little thicker form
I'm upgrading from a t440s and only just discovering how lenovo have been changing things in the past few years, my main concern is not getting the swappable battery at the rear like i can in my 440s. For that reason i will probably be forced to get the 470 over the 470s. But I would really like the 1440p screen. The 470s not only has a lack of power delivery due to relying on the lower capacity in built battery, but it has the more power hungry screen too... The 470s is also the one with thunderbolt port!
They should really simplify their line up, and surely all of the features on the 'slim' version should be available on the non slim version, at the very least
the T470 does have Thunderbolt 3. It's the T470P version that doesn't, which is some really mind puzling stuff considering it is the "workstation" of the 14" thinkpads.
Nice video. What's F12? I noticed a star.
Its a user configurable key.
Good video. Don't forget the ESD wrist strap next time. ESD is a serious shit even if you can't see or feel the spark!
I think you should turn on the computer, enter the BIOS and shut down the internal battery... or when you open the bottom of the machine, manually disconnect the internal battery from the motherboard. Otherwise you may damage the computer...
Why's this?
Why's this?
Is it true that this notebook expands RAM up to 32GB?
Does it support 32 GB of ram?
Hi Could you please let me know if sim card slot is available to access 4G LTE / 3G . Thanks
Sudarshan sridhar yes, SIM card slot is behind the removable battery.
Thank you for clarifying. Does "internal mobile broadband" option is sufficient to use 4G LTE/ 3G internationally (for me its in India) or do we need to buy the other option qualcom which adds up extra $130?
Sudarshan sridhar I believe the 3G/4G solution requires the extra Qualcomm unit.
How are the speakers on this laptop?
brianyjkim They are pretty similar to the past T-series speakers. They are fine for casual listening, TH-cam videos, etc., but if you want to listen to music or watch movies, you'll want headphones or a set of powered speakers.
Why would he take it apart as soon as he got it
TheUrbanExplorer38 to upgrade the RAM from 16GB to 32GB.
ThinkPads are engineered to be user accessible. It's part of the heritage. And it's often cheaper to buy memory and drives separately and upgrade.
intel security flaws have ruined this laptop. slower and potentially unsafe for a business class machine.
Hi,
I have another doubt related to hard disk. The options for t470 for HDD are
1)500GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm, 2.5", SATA3
2) Intel 180GB Solid State Drive, 2.5", SATA3, OPAL2.0
3) 128GB Solid State Drive, SATA3
4) 256 GB Solid State Drive PCIe-NVMe OPAL2.0 - Capable
5) 512 GB Solid State Drive, PCIe-NVMe OPAL2.0
6) 1 TB Solid State Drive OPAL2.0 PCIe-NVMe
By default "500GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm, 2.5", SATA3" is included in the price. If i choose this when i am buying, can I upgrade it to " 256 GB Solid State Drive PCIe-NVMe OPAL2.0 - Capable" later ??
I don't have knowledge about PCIe-NVMe OPAL2.0, ssd , SATA and they are interchangeable in the slot provided in T470.
I have budget constraint so would like to go with default HDD ie. 7200prm SATA3 and later want to upgrade with SSD type.
Will this be possible if the device come with SATA3 slot and later can be added "PCIe-NVMe OPAL2.0" or only "Solid State Drive, SATA3" ??
Another question is in the video, the laptop is SSD STATA3 drive ? because i think PCIe-NVMe drives looks like RAM slots.
And my final question is is this laptop worth for programmers ?. I do lot of coding in IDEs such as visual studio , android studio and also run virtual machines via virtual box etc.. And browsing using multiple chrome tabs
NO GAMING .. may be once in a while but not priority .. programming, browsing and watching videos are only priority
Would you recommend t470? Thank you
the SATA drives and the PCI-E drives occupy the same physical space in the notebook, but use two different ports to connect. So yes, you could buy with stock SATA drive and upgrade later. The drive in the video is a 1tb PCI-E drive, and it does resemble a stick of RAM more than a traditional HD.
I love the T470 so far. Best laptop I've ever owned.
Robert Yale hi thank you for quick reply. does that mean having with default option i.e 1, latet i can upgrade with any of 2 or 3 or 4 models mentioned in previous note? depending on what i can buy with..?. sorry for many questions but these slots are confusing.
Sudarshan sridhar yes, but option 4 would be the fastest by far since it accesses the board through PCI-E rather than SATA.
Robert Yale ok. i will keep that in my mind. there is no quad-core option but dual core. hope the performance dose not hit. many times even though, i increase ram size, cpu utilization reaches 100% on my old laptops making laptop become slow for multiple operations
Do you have the model with the 940mx card?
iggywow No. I have found the Intel HD Graphics 620 to be more than adequate for my purposes. I do photo editing in Photoshop, and some Premiere video. If I decide I need more graphics horsepower, I'll probably add an external video card using one of the new Thunderbolt 3 solutions. I don't foresee needing that anytime soon, though.
Robert Yale Alright, thanks. I'm looking to get the T570 model with the dedicated card and was looking for people with some experience. They're rolling out in Norway next week sometime :)
I am very interested in this model.
Using one now for work!
MOMMY
SHHHHHH
I need one but can,t afford it.I came from needy family..Please give me one old one to use as free..