I bought this model two weeks ago and i have to say i'm really satisfied with it. It has evrything i need and the build quality seems outstanding, really nice!
Not at all, it feels very slim and light. I'm still very satisfied. It's easy to take the device in one hand and write long equations or code on the whiteboard without fear of dropping it.
you guys have the absolute best text reviews on the internet, why did you abandon this channel? your video reviews on modern laptops would be amazing to see!
Very informative review. Just completely shocked about the price. Thankfully, my workplace bought me my current T450. I'd hate to pay for a ThinkPad out of my own pocket. I love the T series ThinkPads because they run Linux flawlessly, they're durable, have great keyboards, and have a hot swappable battery! I always get the long life batteries and get around 9 hours running Linux (most of the time I'm in a terminal, so nothing too demanding). I want to get the latest T470, but just can't afford it. I'll be looking at an Entroware laptop instead (for around £800 I can get their 14 inch with Linux pre-installed, and a whopping 32GB of RAM).
so I got this, if you choose the cheaper option for the battery it's swappable... I know it's weird, the cheaper battery is twice the capacity and swappable...! love the laptop, I got it for durability and it's doing well
They do have some models like the X1 that were exactly what the guess was here, the part of the back above the second battery removed, so you could swap out the main battery without powering down due to the secondary battery. They just shared the layout in models like this that didn't have that other cover/battery.
Very good review. Good technical analysis. Thank you. I am looking for a thinkpad with longest possible total battery life (including using a 6 cell, 72Wh rear battery). I have been looking at X270, T470, T470p, T470s. What's your suggestion please? Longest total battery life is my main attention.
Wait, what? What's the point of this S model?... Sure it's thinner than the regular T470 but couldn't most buyers just opt for the X1 carbon?... The T470 itself is already Ultrabook spec. So to have TWO Ultrabooks in the T series being the same screen size sort of doesn't make sense.
VX15 VX5-591G-78HD review is being worked on now. After the tests and written review is complete it comes to the studio. Up to two weeks is my guess. [Chippy]
is it possible to swap out the German keyboard with a US keyboard at a later point? Thinking about buying it on campuspoint but don't want to wait for the US keyboard version
Well it's a matter of personal prefference but i would suggest something that sounds less MIDI like. Also, it would be better if music didn't get boosted as high up. I really like your reviews and i'm a reader of notebookcheck since a long long time :). Hope your channel keeps getting bigger and bigger! We need serious reviews like yours instead of just salesmen advertising a laptop.
Again lacking simple but useful media keys... That was one of the reasons I switched to a Dell XPS 15. I've been a Lenovo Thinkpad user for 6 years. Owned about 17 laptops of them (no joke, though they were all secondhand). The last one was my T440s. New Lenovo lineup lacks important (design)features. No more lenovo for me. What a pity!
Fakhrulhilal Maktum well yeah. Ever since t4302/t440 linup, nothing really really improved (for me). Batterysituation with the bulky 6cell, lack of simple mediabuttons on the arrowkeys e.g. (for me personally a big bummer). Not sure about touchpad which was a nightmare on the t440s. My dell has the most amazing touchpad I've ever had. Lenovo should've had it 😟
The T440 touchpad was a disgrace. Lenovo should have recalled that particular model. I swapped my T440 touchpad out for the touchpad that comes with the T450. It was worth the hassle.
How is XPS 15 better? It weights a massive 2kg due its enormous battery, has poor keyboard and the QA is non-existing! Oh yes, and coil-whine/buzzing in every single unit.
Manos Seferidis My t440s with extended 6 cell battery which looked like a tumor weighed only about 150grams less. So that's no reason to avoid the xps15 at all talking about weight. Performance is 10x better for that little added weight. After 17 thinkpads I do know that their keyboards were close to the best ever, but the xps15 are by far (!!) bad. Personal preference I guess? Lacking media keys on 14" thinkpads is shit. And no QA? That's a misconception. XPS 15 are high qualitymade laptops. No magnesium, but still high quality. Trust me, I know what quality feels like, and I'm supersatisfied with what I got now. No coilwhine on the 15, only 13" models... Back in the days, with the t420 series, I would never ever go for a Dell/Hp/... Now times have changed and Thinkpads are not what they used to be
Eric Sharp - if you like macbook's with limited ports and not really designed for business...then yes, buy one. This laptop is clearly designed for the high end business user. 1Tb PCle SSD, 20Gb memory, Win 10 Pro, finger print reader..... can be had for just over $2,500 including a the Ultra Dock and 3 year warranty+Accidental damage. Expensive, yes, but really not a bad deal.
I bought this model two weeks ago and i have to say i'm really satisfied with it. It has evrything i need and the build quality seems outstanding, really nice!
Does it feel big to you? I am debating between this and a x270 for school. No gaming and no editing of any kind
Not at all, it feels very slim and light. I'm still very satisfied. It's easy to take the device in one hand and write long equations or code on the whiteboard without fear of dropping it.
what about schrodinger equations ?
you guys have the absolute best text reviews on the internet, why did you abandon this channel? your video reviews on modern laptops would be amazing to see!
I just bought this and Loving it so far
Very informative review. Just completely shocked about the price. Thankfully, my workplace bought me my current T450. I'd hate to pay for a ThinkPad out of my own pocket. I love the T series ThinkPads because they run Linux flawlessly, they're durable, have great keyboards, and have a hot swappable battery! I always get the long life batteries and get around 9 hours running Linux (most of the time I'm in a terminal, so nothing too demanding).
I want to get the latest T470, but just can't afford it. I'll be looking at an Entroware laptop instead (for around £800 I can get their 14 inch with Linux pre-installed, and a whopping 32GB of RAM).
dad just got a T470 in hes new job lol 8 gb ram 512 ssd
You Linux chaps are weird folks.
@Luke George why would you waste an Ultra book with Linux?
nice to see you again chippy
Great review! Also awesome that Notebookcheck tests for PWM in displays. It allows me to know which laptops to avoid.
It would useful to put below the T470 and X1 Carbon comparison you spoke of on your introduction list.
Couldn't find it in your playlist. Thanks
so I got this, if you choose the cheaper option for the battery it's swappable... I know it's weird, the cheaper battery is twice the capacity and swappable...! love the laptop, I got it for durability and it's doing well
Great review Chippy!
They do have some models like the X1 that were exactly what the guess was here, the part of the back above the second battery removed, so you could swap out the main battery without powering down due to the secondary battery. They just shared the layout in models like this that didn't have that other cover/battery.
If I could give this guy 2 thumbs up, I would.
I am waiting for the review of the T470p (quad core cpu) with the additional 6 cell battery
I wish the screen had a little higher resolution and more wider color production, then it would be perfect.
you can upgrade to a 1440 WQHD IPS screen
It's 4k already.
I have a t440s right now and i couldn't live without being able to hot-swap the rear battery, i guess they ditched this system for the t470s ?
Very good review. Good technical analysis. Thank you.
I am looking for a thinkpad with longest possible total battery life (including using a 6 cell, 72Wh rear battery). I have been looking at X270, T470, T470p, T470s. What's your suggestion please? Longest total battery life is my main attention.
I would really appreciate a X1 5th geneartion review, but as always, great review!
+Jay Cheon x1 latest model, full review is up on our site.
I would like a video version of it though if it's possible.
Rather splendid music - I thought I'd switched on Watch With Mother - Camberwick Green by mistake!
a t470 review would be awesome
Please do a review for T470! Many thanks!
Good review, thank you!
Wait, what? What's the point of this S model?... Sure it's thinner than the regular T470 but couldn't most buyers just opt for the X1 carbon?... The T470 itself is already Ultrabook spec. So to have TWO Ultrabooks in the T series being the same screen size sort of doesn't make sense.
Yo-yo Kaby Lake chipsets
Great review as always. But when will the full Acer VX 15 review come out? It's been 3 months since your preview video.
VX15 VX5-591G-78HD review is being worked on now. After the tests and written review is complete it comes to the studio. Up to two weeks is my guess. [Chippy]
very good review! Thank's
Very good review. When can we expect one for T470?
BTW, Looks like someone was quite "inspired" by your review: www.compsmag.com/lenovo-thinkpad-t470s-review/
Why are the Yoga/tablet business models unable to carry the 1TB SSD in them? Noticed your print preview says SSD but you say HHD. Which is correct?
Hi - nice review! =) Quick Question - Can I connect two external monitors at this machine? Thanks
no
Why did Lenovo include their proprietary charging port instead of just adding another USB-C port?
What's the difference between the t470 and the t470s?
T470 is kinda thicker and t470s is slimer.
@NotebookcheckReviews : Can you please do a detailed review of Thinkpad T470 . and is there going to be a Thinkpad T470p like the thinkpad T460p ?
is it possible to swap out the German keyboard with a US keyboard at a later point? Thinking about buying it on campuspoint but don't want to wait for the US keyboard version
Does the USB C work for video outputs?
What's difference between t470 amd t470s
i buy this laptop for $190, is the price wrong or the seller just kicking himself?
Would this be better than the msi ps63 modern-096?
Does this one have the ‘soft’ top feeling like the t430?
Can you review lenovo ideapad 320S, thank you very much !
Can you upgrade to win 11?
they really butchered this model, my T440s has double battery system. Why doesnt this one? And I mean the removal back battery
It actually does. Go to Lenovo's web site and you will see the battery options.
Cenot4ph The T470(no p or s) has it tho
I like your reviews! But the music is just awful mate. Everything else is very good quality !
Haha. There's always a comment about the the music style. What style would you prefer? [Chippy]
Well it's a matter of personal prefference but i would suggest something that sounds less MIDI like. Also, it would be better if music didn't get boosted as high up. I really like your reviews and i'm a reader of notebookcheck since a long long time :). Hope your channel keeps getting bigger and bigger! We need serious reviews like yours instead of just salesmen advertising a laptop.
NotebookcheckReviews Please, don't put some electronic music, it will ruin your professionnal style :( It's only 10 seconds, what is the problem ? :/
+Carlos Valls Thanks Carlos. Feedback always welcome.
+Rémy Baillet Thanks Remy.
I open my Lenovo t470s where ram located
Even T-series now doesn't have external battery. WTF Lenovo?
Ricky Yip if you need external battery go check t470 & t470p version of the laptop
Ports on the X1 Carbon were a deal breaker for me.
Explain?
Where is the problem, just get a USB-C external battery and you're good.
@Ricky-Yip:
All computer-manufacturers are trying to copy Apple and their "Macbook-Air" design :-(
Please do a review on X1 carbon 2017.
i use x220 with ssd. original thinkpad keyboard is the best
halley oey t420 with ssd here
@@TecoOPlays T450s with SSD here :D
Again lacking simple but useful media keys... That was one of the reasons I switched to a Dell XPS 15. I've been a Lenovo Thinkpad user for 6 years. Owned about 17 laptops of them (no joke, though they were all secondhand). The last one was my T440s. New Lenovo lineup lacks important (design)features. No more lenovo for me. What a pity!
You mean new ThinkPad lineup, right? I agree with you, really suck keyboard layout.
Fakhrulhilal Maktum well yeah. Ever since t4302/t440 linup, nothing really really improved (for me). Batterysituation with the bulky 6cell, lack of simple mediabuttons on the arrowkeys e.g. (for me personally a big bummer). Not sure about touchpad which was a nightmare on the t440s. My dell has the most amazing touchpad I've ever had. Lenovo should've had it 😟
The T440 touchpad was a disgrace. Lenovo should have recalled that particular model. I swapped my T440 touchpad out for the touchpad that comes with the T450. It was worth the hassle.
How is XPS 15 better? It weights a massive 2kg due its enormous battery, has poor keyboard and the QA is non-existing! Oh yes, and coil-whine/buzzing in every single unit.
Manos Seferidis My t440s with extended 6 cell battery which looked like a tumor weighed only about 150grams less. So that's no reason to avoid the xps15 at all talking about weight. Performance is 10x better for that little added weight.
After 17 thinkpads I do know that their keyboards were close to the best ever, but the xps15 are by far (!!) bad. Personal preference I guess? Lacking media keys on 14" thinkpads is shit. And no QA? That's a misconception. XPS 15 are high qualitymade laptops. No magnesium, but still high quality. Trust me, I know what quality feels like, and I'm supersatisfied with what I got now. No coilwhine on the 15, only 13" models...
Back in the days, with the t420 series, I would never ever go for a Dell/Hp/... Now times have changed and Thinkpads are not what they used to be
Can this do video editing
Is it china style keyboard layout?
Looks German to me.
yup. German.
Hi can i edit video with this laptop?THanks by
Hey did u got it and how was your expérience with it?
For what looks like a professional review site for laptops, spending half a sentence on the touchpad is not acceptable. Correct in the future.
2:30 you can clearly see build quality isnt that good on lenovo
umpc portal
Battery, physical keys, classic keyboard... thinkpad is dead
well, at least the ram is not on board..LOL...
still happy with my W541 anyway..
A subnotebook for 1400€...no thanks.
lenovo playing apple
over priced and not even that good this is the only laptop i found that getting a macbook would be a better deal
Oh yeah and I forgot. Great review keep it up
Thanks. Spread the word! [Chippy]
AFAIK, laptop with thunderbolt 3 is still high price at the moment. So I think it's still normal price, at least for now.
Well, that's the only one with usable trackpoint
Eric Sharp - if you like macbook's with limited ports and not really designed for business...then yes, buy one. This laptop is clearly designed for the high end business user. 1Tb PCle SSD, 20Gb memory, Win 10 Pro, finger print reader..... can be had for just over $2,500 including a the Ultra Dock and 3 year warranty+Accidental damage. Expensive, yes, but really not a bad deal.
How can anyone call this high end when its a dual core i7 RUBBISH????