@@TheWalkthroughKillerit's because of AT&t and not Red magic. AT&t has a white list of phones they have guaranteed support for on their networks. Red magic is not among the brands that are supported.
You keep comparing it to a phone that's considerably more expensive instead of something that's closer to it's price range. And you gave the Samsung another unfair advantage by testing it with the external fan and not using it with the phone it's actually for ? Couldn't you test it on both of the phones to keep it fair ? You had it out for this phone from the beginning not a great review.
The OnePlus 12 results shown in the video is right in it's pricing ballpark and it performed better than the Samsung in some results before a fan was strapped on. Mind you they showed results with the fan for each phone as I understand it.
It's (it is) hard to take you seriously when you write sentences like "something that's closer [to it] is price range." You compare devices against what is considered the best in class to get a holistic view on where it ranks in the overall product category. Otherwise, you'd only have the viewpoint of how this device does compared to other $800 phones.
Which is the right thing to do to see how it stacks up against the same price class for value. Would you for cpus compare a 6 core Ryzen with a 16 core and consider it lousy and poor value? Different price points and use cases.
I think he should have actually used it to play real games like Zelda tears of the kingdom or paper Mario the thaosand year door instead of using the phone to play bad games like cod mobile
@@OblivionPrimeBiden ads for what? I have premium so I haven't seen a TH-cam ad in years. I got so sick of Trump ads last election, I got premium. No political ads for years has been worth it, and I actually prefer TH-cam music to Spotify or Rhapsody.
@@AdamIsUrqed I would buy TH-cam premium, but TH-cam has been censoring me from commenting for so long now i won't give them a dim and the ads are about donating to them which is a massive no
Yeah for me I immediately jump to “Can I play Hoyo games at 60 without the phone boiling for once?” Cause that’s a problem that no matter what, every phone has
Yeah man he isn't the target consumer of course it's gonna look weird. He just had to use some common sense. There's differences between what everyone wants. Just cause I need to travel on the road does not mean I have to buy the latest and fastest car right. I will probably stop watching austin Evans now
@@deathrodamus9608They shouldn't have. Opinion on something they don't do. For instance , people who play card mobile , this would be The best Phone for them
Bruh you missed the entire point of a gaming phone.. it's not as much about the hardware/performance these days, but rather about gaming specific features - things like bypass charging , additional charging ports (so your cable can be routed around your hands), macro creation and execution (to grind in games), video recording and sharing features, etc etc... It's not just about FPS because as you point out, regular phones can do that - what they can't do is all the other stuff. Oh, and have you tried playing a mobile game in the summer - outside - on a non-gaming phone? I have.. it doesn't end well. On a gaming phone, the base level cooling is better, plus they have additional active cooling - you can actually play the games. Extended gaming sessions have no problems on gaming phones either.
Bro im looking to buy a gaming phone, i have been looking at red magic 9 pro and i know i wont regret buying it, obviously anything is better than what i have right now. But can you reccoment me any gaming phones that are not that expensive yet can run games like arena breakout without overheating and have smooth 90-120 speed
@@igorantic9922 I think the redmagic is the most affordable, but if you need to go lower - heard good things about the performance of the recent OnePlus phones too. It's just they lack some of the game specific features. I like ROG features and unique software features myself, but those are expensive. Maybe look for deals on older ROG 6/7 on swappa or local
Why? because he told the truth even tested the phones multiple times and because you didn't like the outcome you feel it's a ad? LOL thats extremely sad because I could say the same thing if the test he showed and others have came out on red magics favor 😂
And that's why people who aren't playing Mobile games regularly shouldn't review Gaming phones Because they don't know why Redmagic or Rogs are better than normal flagships For once the touch sampling rate is way better on gaming phones And the ability to retain fps in intense situations during the gaming session is so much better For example: the s24 ultra drop frames alot while playing codm Ranked lobbies (no I'm not talking about elite or master lobbies or your pubs any phone can run fine while playing low ranked matches or pubs I'm talking Legendary ranked and scrims) the fps some times drop to 90 which messes up sensitivity increases motion blur and touch sampling as well not to mention it gets extremely hot while redmagic retains fps like you can get 115-120 easily yes it gets hot but only like 40-41°C max So yes it is worth it for People to buy these gaming phones if they want to play at the highest ranks comfortably
I bought the phone and I don't even play competitive games I just play PC games like Minecraft java edition and switch games like Zelda tears of the kingdom the game runs flawlessly because of the fan
Touch sampling rate is 240hz on S24U, that's faster than you can move your fingers. You are NOT reacting and changing directions in less than 4ms. Also, FPS does not affect touch sampling or sensitivity. And ranked lobbies are running the same game code as a normal lobby, same stuff happens, it's just more competitive. However thermals are an issue, but active coolers are cheap, as he demonstrated it performs the same when you attach a fan. Like, yeah, gaming phones can run games faster, but at significant costs, whereas a normal flagship can do the same with a cooler and have all other benefits. There's just not a market for it anymore like there was 5 years ago.
I have been summoned and I'm now here to tell people I absolutely hate holes and notches for the sake of a front facing camera I've used maybe once. It's like a third of the reason my daily driver phone is a Sony Xperia, because it truns out you can have a thin bezel and get front facing stereo speakers and a front cam in case you absolutely must videoconference from your phone without having to do expensive nonsense to make your screen look worse. So yeah, I would have taken bezels above a under screen cam, so note for the future there, but that is my second choice over the other nonsense. The other two reasons are a 3.5mm jack and expandable storage, so the RedMagic is absolutely a contender here.
To be fair, the selfie camera quality looks the same as one the Samsung Fold 6 which also has an under screen camera. For me the only big minus on this phone is the software support.
True but I would love android with FaceID which would require a notch or a pill, but for a seamless and fast unlocking? Why the hell not? Or just make a phone with big top bottom bezels and front firing stereo speakers like HTC One M8
@@sklynexdXiaomi Mi 8/Poco F1 had a better, faster and more secure face recognition system, but people keep liking fingerprint scanners, even now that we are in the worst kind, under screen.
@@davidjorquera4192yea exactly i have the Rog phone 6 and that cooler is more simple to carry around instead of one you can buy for any phone and still it's large and i wouldn't carry it around
Love the camera bump-less back and the under display front camera. I almost never use the front camera so a lower image quality there doesn't really matter.
funny thing is if you also put the cooler on the redmagic you'd prob get even better performance i'd assume. whole point of a gaming phone is to game on them for long period of time without as much throttling, ontop of the fact they got charging separation too so you can actual game with it plugged in without it using the battery which should help its battery lifecycle and prob performance too. (idk why other phones still don't do this) i'd 100% buy one, not only because it's cheaper for flagship specs but i do a ton of gaming on my phone so getting the most out of it would be a pretty big +.
Other company afraid to more expenses 😂😂/ they afraid of that happen there new phone no one buy Bc people Already got better battry and performance I also buy new phone only bc battry problem and charging problem
Yeah. I'm not against the idea of giving devices actual personalities but, seriously, she seems like she'd get annoying after 10 minutes. That whole thing feels more like a gag from a sci-fi comedy than something which should exist IRL. (Or else it'd be like that ep of Gravity Falls and she goes psycho stalker if you ignore her...)
@@jasonblalock4429 Yeeaahh... It's absolutely a gimmick, but I'm sure its really easy to mute and turn off. It's pretty amusing for a little bit though!
Might be controversial, but sometimes you need these 'Gaming' phones to push the envelope that will then in a few years will become the standard, if not for these phones, we'd likely not get the 120hz displays, or the better controller support, or better cooling, maybe even more RAM and storage options. So I say let these smaller players continue to push the industry so in a few years we'll get better features as standard.
Redmagic is capitalizing on the huge market of “mobile phone” gamers, there are actually a lot of dedicated phone gamers out there. This phone is obviously not meant for regular phone users, thats why redmagic decided to focus on performance rather than an all rounder phone to keep their price lower than other flagship phones. As a mobile gamer myself, i used to have a dedicated android gaming phone that i leave in my room and only use for gaming and saving important files and a daily driver iphone. A lot of gamers use this phone the same way as i do, some do use it as a daily driver phone since not everyone has money to spend on multiple devices. They probably only support 2 years plus to give those few people who are wealthy a reason to upgrade their gaming phone every other year to make up for their smaller market share for phones IMO, though that doesnt justify only giving consumers only 1 major os update. I love redmagic’s innovations when it comes to touch sampling rate which actually feels very responsive to the point where a very small movement from your finger would shake your aim if you max it. They were the first to release a phone with 165hz display though not many games can utilize that much frames, but as more phones adapt a higher refresh rate, then game devs would be more likely build games that can utilize that much frames. These types of company are usually the reason why bigger companies are obligated to improve their display not only on the resolution but also on refresh rate and touch sampling rate.
@zeexii5660 THIS is how I use my Redmagic 9 Pro. I bought it specifically to stay connected to a Gamesir G8 controller 24/7 and use it as a multimedia consuming/smart home hub/and featured gaming device, nothing more, nothing less. There is no social media BS or constant notifications to worry about getting in the way. I stream my Twitch through it flawlessly. It basically just has a permanent spot on my nightstand/coffee table to control virtually everything in my home AND game/stream whatever I like. If I want to take it out and about (don't do it often unless I know I'm going to have free time while I am), I'll just hotspot my Z Flip 5 to it and do whatever I like. You have to think broader than "durr it's just a gaming phone). Naah. The good thing about using the device this way is it'll last for quite a few years. I don't need no updates or patches, the thing doesn't have any of my personal details on it or anything. If there's purchases that I want to make, just whip out my real phone, buy, and keep it movin. This wasn't a "real review" instead of it being a "why get this over that". And tbf, my opinion is the exact opposite of Austin's... Why would you buy a lesser, dedicated Android gaming handle over one of these and mold it to what you want/need over time?
120Hz displays on phones preceded the GaMiNg phones by about 2 years. By "better controller support" do you mean... buttons? GaMiNg phones don't generally have more storage, but may have more RAM than a standard contemporary device.
@@MrHeylookitsmei think Austin’s review is very one sided and isn’t looking at the bigger picture and its possible use case. This is exactly the same as big streamers having 2 separate pc where the other one is built for maximum power and the other as a dual pc streaming setup to offload unnecessary background processes from your gaming pc, with the power of current generation cpu’s and gpu’s you might think its overkill, i mean it is but if youre a competitive player and want to have even the slightest advantage in your game and have a lot of extra cash to spend then why wouldnt you do it. Thats the same with these types of gaming phone, 120-165hz display, 2khz touch sampling, shitty under display camera might, overclocked processor, higher ram and an active cooling fan sounds unnecessary and possibly overkill, but thats what pro/competitive players want and might eventually need when mobile games can finally utilize it all. You could say the huge battery capacity is offset by an offset by an active cooling fan, well everyone who uses this phone mainly for gaming almost never use it just on battery since this phone has bypass charging where youre using power directly from your changer rather than your battery. All of this is the reason why this phone is the best phone for competitive mobile gamers out there. And to add on, when Austin said why would anyone buy this for mobile gaming when the steam deck is easily accessible is a really bad comparison. Its true that it is a mobile or portable console/pc but they have an entirely different game library from mobile phones.
@@zeexii5660finally some people that understand the market some pc don't believe that there are actually serious mobile games and serious mobile gamers
Redmagic 9s Pro - 700$ Samsung S24 Ultra - 1299$ Redmagic gives you Solid Constant Performance Samsung may compromise a bit when it gets hot Redmagic Doesn't need an extra cooling for most scenerios Samsung definitely needs one at some point which the phone being that costly. Redmagic you need to may reduce your expectations about Camera Samsung gives good camera but it's 10x optical zoom that's not much... Redmagic gives you a benchmark score of 2.3M Samsung gives you a score of 1.9M - 2M Considering the cost gap it's 600$ difference and the thing you may lose is Camera, kinda okay Ui And OS.. then the bettery is definitely satisfying enough, i mean you can play games about 8-10hrs (Nobody would play that long for straight, and the battery charges under 45 minutes, manageable charging)
Its unbelievably sad how excited we get about headphone jacks. I cant be the only one getting really annoyed with bluetooth headphones. Sometimes i want the reliability of a cable :/
Headphone jack, SD card, and removable battery are all things that need to make a comeback. My last Motorola had all those things. My S23+, however.... Headphones/earbuds with no need to pair, or worry about battery malarkey, is just the way things should be.
@@AdamIsUrqed I can live without a headphone Jack but no SD Card slot is an absolute dealbreaker for me as I actually have several hundreds of gigabytes of movies and music on it from my collection. I don't understand why they keep removing these features on new phones.
Phones should bring back 360° cam so you could benefit from main cam to take selfies Also no need to put selfie cam that's always inferior against back cam
In 2018 they mentioned! These days though, it's much the same for both sides... I really wish that wasn't the case but unless you're going with an Asian device like the Red Magic or even a Sony phone, you have to look at the mid to low end for a headphone jack still.... it sucks.
Gaming phones are for people who game for a longer period of time. Yes, it has the same chip as all other flagships but there is active cooling so you don't have to go around with a cooler and controller.
@@ssmcrew12 You can overclock it in all phones nowadays because they all have the "gaming space" feature. The difference is that the gaming phone has the cooling to push the chip further and for longer.
@@didomitkopinatores Diablo mode is different from game mode, game mode only turns your phone to performance mode while diablo mode literally overcloaks your GPU
@@ssmcrew12yes it's the same chip just overclocked but still a 8gen 3 but it's burning your hands and skin making the phone untouchable for even 1 minute even with a fan (at that point I'm not holding the phone but using a controller) so don't think it's worth a overclocked chip for a few more fps on a smartphone even with me being a huge gamer and mobile gamer .however I have a different opinion on that matter on pc given that we have liquid cooling
Steam Deck / ROG Ally etc. are *not* *relevant* at all to the discussion. A gaming phone is so you can game with an actual fully portable device. Anytime, anywhere, with no advance planning. Nobody is standing in line at the grocery store and then whips out a Steam Deck from their front pocket.
It kinda is though, as the steam deck is a mobile device, meant to be taken wherever you want. Sure you're probably not gonna do it in the line at a store, but I wouldn't necessarily do that with a phone either. The steam deck is easy to carry in a purse or backpack, so I would not say it requires any real planning in advance. The real question is price; are you going to buy a 900 dollar phone just to play mobile games, or spend 400 dollars on a steam deck and 500 dollars for a more midrange phone, that can probably play those same mobile games anyway?
@@WolfieNamira Depends on what your doing with it I have both a steam deck and a redmagic 9s pro and there both great devices its the games that matter. I play PC games on my redmagic 9s pro and steam deck I think the redmagic 9s pro is great because you cant allways bring multiple devices with you for example bringing a steam deck and a phone with you is way harder then simply bringing a gaming phone. for me bringing the redmagic phone with me seems like an all in one solution for games like minecraft java edition where you could have a PC level experience on your phone and i feel like thats where the redmagic 9s pro shines. the steam deck also works but you need a seprate phone for mobile data unless theres some portable usb c data thingy then idk how your going to just going to bring a steam deck with you. usally when i bring my steam deck someone is usally pocketing me with their personal hotspots on their phone and unless i have a cable for wired hotspots its laggy.
@@WolfieNamira If you're a dude, you aren't carrying around a purse. And taking a backpack literally everywhere you go really isn't reasonable. I'm talking about all those use cases where you are out and about with just the things in your pants pockets. Out to eat at a restaurant with your family and waiting for your food. Whip out the phone. At a crowded stadium for a sports game. The phone. Heck in the bathroom stall at work while doing your business. Are you taking a freaking backpack in there? No.... It used to be the DS / 3DS that served this purpose of all-portable anywhere device. The Steam Deck / backpack device can't meet these use cases. That's the void that game phones can fill.
@@metaldiceman not really though, the performance of normal phones can usually play games just fine. the only thing a gaming phone would probably be useful for is emulation or having lots of RAM, there just is no real reason to buy a gaming phone, unless you just want it to look cool
"we're being environmentally friendly that's why we want you to buy a power brick which is going to be a separate box that's going to end up in a landfill somewhere"
It kind of makes sense to not include a brick when you look at the top 3 sellers in the US for example. Iphones have been using the same brick for the past five gens, Samsung for the past 3-ish gens, same as the Pixel which used 30w right until the 9's. Sure, there's no argument that the environmental sustainability point is somewhat bs, but at the same time they don't have fast charging as an important selling point so they can get away with not including a brick. There is one thing that I find funny though, Pixels don't have a brick in the box, but their wireless charging stands do...
I have the 9 Pro (non-s) and the battery life is incredible. As far as burning more battery than the samsung... you can just adjust the TDP? lol. You have ACCESS to more cooling and therefore more power but you can EASILY tune for efficiency. I have tested previous generation 8 gen 1 AND older 800 and 700 series snapdragons. This chip is VERY efficient and adjustable with an incredibly large battery. You just have to be more active in adjusting your performance. I am a BIG fan of having a physical headphone jack & IR blaster which were old features that I miss from smartphones. I have never worried about having the "best" camera and far more worried about having more performance. I regularly experiment with Winlator, high end console emulation, and dabbling in mobile gaming. For me, I prefer the redmagic over the flagship Samsung because of the performance, superior cooling, battery life, and price.
Honestly this doesn't seem like a bad niche phone. I'm not a gamer so it's not for me, but if you're someone who wants a flagship at a lower cost than an iphone or s24 ultra and you also happen to find value in gaming features like the headphone jack and side buttons, i think it makes sense.
if you didnt know people use gaming phones for Call of duty mobile for esports events like iqoo, redmagic, asus rog phone but sometimes codm only allows samsung flag ship phone to play on
I got the RedMagic 9 PRO a couple months ago and quite honestly, for a factory unlocked 512GB dual SIM gaming phone, this is the best bang for your buck that you can get for under a grand Only complaint I got about it is how flimsy the case is, but beyond that it's an incredible phone
Sadly I think it's a scam as I'll be useless after 1-2year due to support and that such a disappointing factor especially with the price your paying 800-900 its still expensive and at that price point I would just get a s24+ with 7 Years of not only security updates but android updated as well and water and dust resistant not even the ultra if you want below 1000 this phone just has too many drawbacks imho 👍
Yeah, but at the same time the S24+ will be factory locked to a particular network to get it under 1k, whereas the 9 PRO is factory unlocked from the get go If you wanna go factory unlocked with the S24+ you're looking at 1500 minimum
People hate mobile gaming because 99% of mobile games are hot garbage only designed to manipulate you into spending money. That's why best mobile games are just ports of console/pc games.
Gaming phones are not worth it . The whole idea of gaming is to play beautiful games , but in android there are hardly any good games . The ones that are left are pubg , cod, and all other multiplayer games. We need single players games like ori and will of the wasps , other heavy and beautiful story based games than only the price and performance will be justified . Otherwise 12 gb ram 16gb ram on a smartphone is completely useless
No camera notch display + With 3rd party software camera is fine No camera bumps in the back... The precision touch screen is amazing for drawing, sketching, editing I love it 😊
@@S.T.A.L.K.E.R.-Strelok most people just want something that is convenient and just works and not care as much about the audio quality as long it is not horrendously bad people were already switching to bluetooth even when headphone jacks were popular,, do u know what most people actually care about? its the camera if it the among the first things people evaluate before buying a smart phone, almost every reviewer talks about the camera as a stone point when reviewing a smart phone
I am not someone who really games on my phone, but now I am even more interested in this phone. I don’t like Samsung's UI, and I am not loving the Pixel 8 Pro that is my work phone. It's significantly better than my personal Samsung S21 FE. But it's just me I hate camera bumps. My phone is as thick as the camera bump, no matter what, so, use that space for something that improves the experience. Seems like in this case it's battery and cooling. Which makes a lot of sense to me The front camera is never really important to me. If I am going to take a picture I care about I use the back camera every time. And you pointed out it is cheaper than other phones of a similar caliber. So that's pretty awesome! Since I don’t game much, that means that I should be able to squeeze some extra battery life out of it. It's also a nice looking phone Thank you for the review! I am pretty excited for when I can finish saving up for it
the point here is if you were considering buying this as a 2nd phone for "gaming". but if you're going to daily drive this thing then i guess its a pretty good deal
Well benchmark isn't the only thing. Phones like s24 ultra do take performance hit when you're playing with a good lobby sometimes 30-40 players land on a single area and the phone starts to throttle. But gaming phones tend to perform better in those scenarios. And having triggers built into the photo is also pretty nice that means you can see more on screen and react faster as well.
The Under screen front facing camera is so cool, I know the quality sucks now but the idea of not having a pinhole at all is so aluring to me, hopefully a company like Samsung or OnePlus can improve on the design
I think it's a thing that only youtube reviewers really care about. Most normal people rarely if ever use their front cameras. The huge notch/ eye lens on iphones is the main reason I'm not an iPhone person. My android phone at least has a tiny hole punch camera, although I would prefer no front camera or an under screen lower quality one.
Something is off about this review Slapping a cooler 1. Is an Extra Expense + The S24Ultra (24U) is more expensive than the Red Magic 9S Pro (Red) 2. Adds more bulk. Can it even be pocketed? Can it powered by the S24U or I need to carry a powers source in addition to the cooler. 3. Is way less subtle in public that just the Red on its own. 4. How much does weigh + S24U VS Red. Gamers usually go hours, and more weight means less play time. When gaming 5. CODM multiplayer (in the video) is a small map in 5v5 and less things happening and the S24 will do well in Ultra setting but in Battle Royale where you have giant map, more players ( Squad vs squid with a one more squad coming to third party with vehicles, gunfire, grenades and Classes (special abilities) activated, it becomes demanding and in those random instances increased bursts of raw processing power are absolutely necessary to be not at a disadvantage) and gaming phones handle that much much better. The Benchmarking 6. Red's body ran hotter than the S24U in a benchmark that is sustained full load for 20 minutes 3Dmark Steel Nomad Stress Test but in gaming that's not the case its random bursts of power so I don't see it getting that crazy hot, warm maybe. 7. True the Red uses more battery to get a better performance therefore consumes more juice. The S24 is draining 11%/20mins Vs the Red's 18%/20mins but the cooler isn't getting its juice from the S24U 6:04 but from an unseen source. Had it been hooked up to the S24U (if possible that the S24U could power the cooler) it would likely consume more power than the Red judging by the size of the cooler. Missed opportunity 8.Since the phones were benchmarked, there should have been a price to performance ratio comparison for the phones with S24U with & without the cooler and its price added. Might that have been deliberate to suit the narrative, I wonder...... Other 9. You failed to mention that the Red supports pass-through charging, also known as charge separation or bypass charging. This feature allows the Red to draw power directly from the charger without using the battery’s stored energy. This can help reduce heat and prolong battery life, especially during long intensive gaming sessions. Trying to do this with the S24U will make it hotter therefore more prone to lag and destroy the battery and to prevent this you will have to put down your S24U to charge it for like 1hr 5mins to charge to full-MOOD RUINED Conclusion 10. Your Conclusion is a bit out of touch IMO cause not everyone have the cash to spring for an S24U and a Rouge Ally. Mobile gaming is great way to have fun (games have also gotten better in quality e.g. Genshin impact, CODM, PUBG, Fortnite, LOL etc.) and if you are on a tighter budget cause the Base Red at $600 something is still a great value for gaming + phone I am just a dude and I may have gotten somethings incorrect, so I stand to be corrected
the sole reason imo that the gaming phone exists is that a normal phone can throttle, and is the biggest reason to not use it for some situations. it's just that it's super niche. throttling in any type of gaming is not a fun experience
I feel like the video made some good points but there are some things that either didn't add up or were in my opinion not correct. 1. 50c for a phone is not hot at all. I have a Note 20 that in 3DMark gets up to 75c, and I feel it but it's not like hard to hold. Maybe he has extremely sensitive skin or something. 2. His claims of the 9S having "more battery drain" don't really make sense since comparing to other benchmarks, the 9S wins in terms of battery life. May say that is due to the extra 1,500mah battery size, and that helps, but normally the more battery drain, the less and less charge= less time. 3. Just me, I have never heard of anyone using the front camera, ever. They will just use the back camera. 4. 50mp is perfectly usable in terms of pictures, videos, etc. Yeah, the S24 has a better camera, but would you pay 2x the price for that He's right about the software being a bit bad on translation, and the security updates tho
I really love my Red Magic 6s Pro as I got good specs for a decent price. Still runs well and battery life is decent for three years of age but gets quite hot playing games. Biggest draws were headphone jack and no front camera punch or notch. Interested to upgrade about when 10/10s releases, then it'll be about four years between my phone purchases.
Would love like a non-gamefied looking version of this phone. The whole flat rectangluer design actually looks really amazing, and a headphone jack is a solid plus. Just the gamery stuff on it looks a bit tacky to me. A clean back design as well as stock android on this phone and I would buy it in an instant
The Frost and Sleet versions aren't as "terminally virgin" & dorky looking as the other two imo. Frost looks really good actually. The ASUS ROG 8 Pro looks really good with the back screen, dot matrix lights, on or off. Not to mention, it feels amazing. It also plays really well. Only downside is that there's no way built in fan like the Redmagic, but it takes awhile to start heating up anyway.
@@ViraL_FootprinT.ex.e While I can see people buying the Redmagic due to having a top end chipset for half the price of proper Flagships, the ROG phone for me doesn't make sense at all. Its more expensive than some flagships but had the same specs as those but with a worse camera. I won't lie, the back screen does look pretty cool, but that's it. If the Asus ROG phone was genuinely cheaper than flagships the it might make more sense, although I still think it's a weird looking phone
tbf, the reason i still go with the Asus RoG phones is mostly because of the feature set i get. front firing speakers is a big plus for me, and i get access to Asus Audio Wizard on my phone, which have proven incredibly useful as i listen to a lot of heavy metal, and it helps balancing out the tuning of my headphones/earbuds. the camera is good enough for me, although others like google pixels, samsung and sony's phones cameras far outshines it (not gonna compare iPhone, not the same OS). and while i may not get the same feature rich experience with Asus as you would with samsung, the amount of bloatware on the phone when you get it, is way lower. and then there's price. costs less than the newest samsung, unless you go all the way with a pro model. on top of that, i use my phone for games, so stuff like extreme performance mode (and even furrther when attaching the cooler) is a nice feature, although never really needed.
1 TB SD card is $50. A company can charge $200+ more for 256 gigs compared to 64 or 128. It's not about water/dust proofing. SD card can sit with sim card tray, which is already ip rated. It's about money. Period.
The thing you missed in the video is that the actual benefit of having active cooling on a phone is not necessarily being faster than the others (although bigger number good for publicity) but the fact that it can help a lot with thermal throttling. Sure even my 8 gen 1 phone can run cod mobile a 120 fps, but can do it only for 15 minutes max and then the performance decreases over time. Same deal with emulating switch games, until they become unplayable. However having that fan can help to reduce or even eliminate that effect and since most of the apps don't need the full performance of the chip, it's probably not going to get uncomfortably hot unless you're really pushing it.
Fascinating line of "thought"... the device without cooling thermal throttles... add active cooling so it can run hotter for longer... it probably won't get uncomfortably hot unless you're............................................. doing exactly that.
@@jefferyG499 gaming is usually not gonna be as demanding as running stress tests for long periods of times, that's why stress tests and Benchmarks exist in the first place. So unless your plan is watching Benchmarks run over and over again instead of playing games that are usually optimized for 2 or 3 gens of processor being if not more, it's gonna beat different results
And plus the whole point of the phone is to provide top notch performance whilst being relatively affordable so making a comparison with an expensive phone that wasn't built for this whilst needing a also expensive and rather awkward to carry around makes no sense
Love my redmagic 9S pro, love the under screen camera, I'm not big on selfies, I don't think anyone purchasing this phone would be, love the speakers, holy hell, they're actually an alternative to a jbl speaker, was not expecting tech this advanced I must say. The oled screen is just beautiful, I've never seen such a beautiful screen on a phone before. You talk about updates of major brand phones, my old iphone can't be used anymore because the last update rendered the access button inoperable. This is another reason why we would want to buy a chinese brand phone, we know we don't have to put up with that kind of bs. Redmagic has better quality tech for a better price, and the phone is a work of art. I should also mention the flat cameras, very nice. Highest screen ratio as well. I'm not a phone gamer btw, I didn't buy it for that, I sure as hell enjoy the tunes coming out of it though. I sure as hell want to see more phones engineered like this, and i'm sure Austin does too. So sick of seeing major phone brands ditch quality for more profits too.
gaming phone does needed in 2024, where some doesn't want to carry big handheld like ally or steam deck to play games or only games they play is like mobile games. i'm not talking about clash or clans or something like that, but rather like Honkai impact 3rd, Honkai star rail, Wuthering waves, etc and this phone is quite good at it too, for people who needs extra or special buttons and prefer dedicated gaming phone instead of using their main phone to do so
Didnt show game center and plugins and diablo mode to Overlock 😅 some may think its gimmicky....but the cross hair, hunt, and scout mode ive used them in ranked matches to clutch wins. Tested in other modes and its solid, feels like hacking/ cheating. It has all kinds of performance and gpu settings that the galaxy wont have 😅 20 min stress test, try 4hr -6hr gaming sesh. Can the samsung keep its frame rates? How does batter look like. Does it actually do 120fps or is it like previous years where games like pubg unlock the featire a year or more later. S20+ - had 90fps when it was made available in pubg S21 ultra- had to mod files to get 90fps S22Ultra - mod files for 90fps, Barely end of last year it was re enabled. Thats why i skipped the s24 / s25 ultra . Great phone, great OS 👍 but unless using fans and chargers it will struggle over longer sessions Does samsung have bypass/ Separate charge? To keep the batt untouched and only use the charger to operate the phone? The built in fan is good enough in a A/c environment, hell throw a cheap desk fan and it will circulate better and cooler air. Worse case throw the coolor on for 10mins if your really woried. In my ac room after 10-15mins chilling it got to 13° C and stayed that way for a good bit. Maybe 20mins later after direct sunlight and YT it jumped back to >35° C even then it doesnt even feel hot 😅 Batt life is great, obviously unless underload which makes sense since the red magic is boosted its cpu and GPU. Ive been playing pubg on 120fps on the 9s Pro and its solid 🪨 80w charging for 10-30mins and your good to go. ❤
i love the red magic phones and have been using them for a few years now. a lot of things in this video are personal things you think about phones. for example i never use the front camera. also the built-in controllers are great i also have a few separate ones, like the one from razer, but i don't like anything as much as the built-in ones. i understand the criticism, but i think the feedback is very personal. only the update policy really needs to be adjusted. That is for me every time to look further to see what else is available. If the update policy is better then i would buy the next one without thinking.
Didnt test it vs another gaming phone: Check Disnt understand that cooling is better to retain performance over time instead of throttling: check Only checked the cooler with the S24 but not the redmagic: check Think cameras is the most important in the world for gamers: check Not realising you shouldnt review gaming phones: check No idea what touch sampling rate is: check. Rename this lazy mans review.... Cause you did nothing to review ut. Only to talk negative about it.
At 9:35 i had to chuck my phone across my room so fast, i was with my family 💀 Edit: My phone was also at max volume (also now it has a massive crack on the screen)🔥👍
I will be buying this phone since i was waiting for a new powerful phone without a camera hole on the front, after having a Xiaomi 9T Pro with a pop up camera and now one with a camera hole again i just missed the full screen experience and will be getting this phone mainly because of this reason
I think you are being a bit biased. The tests weren’t fair nor accurate. You also mentioned something about optimizing power consumption to reduce heat and extend battery life. Here’s why that would be a disadvantage for mobile gamers: In gaming, FPS (frames per second) is really important, especially for games like CODM and PUBG Mobile. iPhones do this, and it’s really annoying. In situations where many players are close together on the map, especially in scrims or esports, the screen will dim significantly, and/or the frame rate will drop as soon as the phone heats up a bit. On Samsung devices, I’ve experienced frame drops in the same scenarios. That’s why I think RedMagic went for a different approach. Also, when you perform benchmarks for battery life, you should keep in mind that other companies optimize their phones by reducing performance when the phone gets too hot. By reducing performance, the battery life will obviously appear “better,” even though performance per battery life is probably still better on the RedMagic.
I have the Red magic 9 pro that released earlier this year (the 12gb of RAM model). Let me explain why I chose it over anything else: 1. The haptic triggers They are an absolute game changer. In CoD mobile you have a distinct advantage over anyone using pure touch controls. In games like Minecraft and Stardew valley, the game becomes infinitely more playable. Taking your thumbs off the virtual sticks to press what would be trigger buttons on a controller is just really awkward and annoying. These haptic triggers fix that. 2. The headphone jack Not many worthwhile phones these days have a headphone jack. I don't think I need to explain any further. 3. It has a "console" mode If you plug HDMI cable into it, it goes into "console" mode, and allows you to play your games on any screen. The only other phones that do this are flagship Samsung phones that support DEX. 4. It's cheaper than any comparable phone There's almost not reason to get the 16Gb model. It's an overpriced waste of money. The 12Gb model has plenty of RAM and costs significantly less. But even the 16Gb model is almost HALF THE PRICE of the S24 ultra, and it actually outperforms that phone as well. 5. The active cooling There are few gamer phones with fans, but they all cost a fortune, and offer very little over a normal flagship phone. This phone is the exception. It has features that actually make it unique on top of active cooling to keep it from burning your hands. (Austin is just being a cry baby. It doesn't get very hot with normal use.) 6. No camera bump No explanation needed. 7. No notch in the screen for a camera i dont care about No explanation needed. WARNING: getting this phone activated on north american carriers can be a pain. The only carrier that "officially" supports it is T-Mobile. If you want any other carrier, then you're gonna have a rough time. It took finagling to get mine activated on Verizon.
@@nickthaskater yeah but they all suck. And one of them requires you to buy a Huawei. The only one worth using is DEX on Samsung phones. Literally just plug it in and it just works. Just like with the Red magic 9 pro.
I've owned my Redmagic 9s pro for more than 7 months now and I bought it after my Samsung Z Fold 3 broke with the inner screen not turning on anymore and needs replacement. One big pro about owning the Redmagic 9s pro that wasn't mentioned in the video is that it's literally 50% cheaper than a Samsung S24 Ultra. I've owned Samsung flagships since the S7 Edge with around a 2-year phone cycle so I was already thinking of getting the S24 Ultra after my Z Fold 3 broke, but I sat down and thought really hard about my priorities in a new phone since I'm now a dad. I just had my $2000 USD Z Fold 3 break down on me when I was planning to use it for another 2 years to break my 2-year phone cycle because of new financial responsibilities for my growing family, while I did really love Samsung top quality cameras, I wasn't really using my camera for work or for entertainment that much anymore since I rarely post photos on my socials. In the last 2 years with my Z Fold 3, I've used it more for gaming more than anything else(which probably broke the inner screen) and this increase in mobile gaming came as I got busier at work and had less time playing on my PC and simply take quick breaks playing a quick 20 minute MOBA or COD mobile game every 2-3 hours of working. Shelling out another $2000 USD on the S24 Ultra just doesn't make sense when I could get a much cheaper 700 USD and just use it for exactly playing a quick 20 minute MOBA or COD mobile game, and also for the 80W charging because I always forget to charge. ALSO also, the front-facing camera on my old Z Fold 3 also sucked a lot because of it being an under-display screen so the switch to the Redmagic 9s pro really wasn't much of a big deal, I really only use my front-facing camera for video calls with family and as we all know messenger video calls will make your video quality suck anyway regardless if you have an iPhone 15 pro max or a $200 USD potato phone. I've never really liked dedicated handheld PCs like the Steam deck simply because they're quite bulky to carry around anyways, I can't play games on the settings I would play them on my PC, and the PC games I play on Steam are usually game that use keyboard and mouse like FPS, RTS, Sim racing, etc.; and quite frankly, in between work and family time, PC gaming for me nowadays seem to be too much of a commitment.
Gaming phones are popular in asia, where people spend hours playing mobile games and actually earn money through professional esports. It’s not that popular in North America because to be honest, North American esports teams suck and they have less support. Look at china, india, korea and south east Asian countries, mobile gaming is popular there so gaming phones are also popular there.
@@anonanonymous9670 you think we don’t have pc and consoles in Asia? 😂 how do you think MOBA games were played before it was introduced to mobile gaming? Do you know that the biggest gaming PC market and console market is in Asia? Stop acting superior when you’re just ignorant.
Austin Evans, the number one reason for me to buy the Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 6 (the other reason being alcohol and poor judgement because I didn't need a new phone 😂) love from Finland ❤❤
I'm planning on getting one, and the corner cuts you talked about don't bother me at all especially the camera as I almost never use the cameras on my galaxy s22 ultra. I primarily want this phone for remote play from my consoles and some mobile gaming. The only thing I do with my phone aside from using it as a phone or watching TH-cam.
Honestly the type of gaming phone I really want is a modern take on something like the Xperia Play. Having a slide out controller (or another similar solution) instead of having to buy a seperate third party accessory would be absolutely awesome and would 100% get my money. (Currently using a Nacon MG-X Pro and I love it, but it is an extra thing to carry around and attach/detach whenever I wanna use it).
The Sony Experia Play was hot, damp garbage that Sony wisely abandoned immediately. Like, they gave birth to that baby straight into the dumpster as the truck was picking it up.
I've owned a red magic 9 pro for a number of months so far, it fits my needs very well as I wanted one very powerful for emulators (winlator). I think your comparison to the s24 ultra is an unfair comparison as it is a much more expensive phone, where I live its around twice the price. Though I do agree this phone is not for everyone. The good: great performance, I love the aesthetic, battery life is great for my use, 2+ days for me, I find the cooling fan very neat. The build quality is superb the bad: cameras are mediocre which wasn't important to me, software was bad at launch (buggy) now its serviceable but could use some polish, and I agree longer software support should be available. I honestly barely use my phone for gaming I just wanted a powerful phone to mess with emulators and thought winlator was cool. Good phone for some people not for the average user though, I would take an s24 ultra over it if they were similar price.
I like gaming phones because they have better battery life than the competition, good specs, and a headphone jack. That combination of features is sadly really hard to find in smartphones these days. There's a bunch of budget phones with good battery life and a headphone jack, but none of the normal flagship phones have a headphone jack and usually they sacrifice battery life to make the phone slimmer. You don't need a gaming phone to play games, but the unique internal layout of the ROG Phone is something I appreciate on the rare occasion I play games on my phone. It never gets warm to the touch, because the SoC is in the center, away from where my hands hold it in landscape mode. The poor support when it comes to updates is the norm for most brands that aren't Samsung, Google or Apple. It sucks, but as someone who always roots my phone and doesn't get OTA updates anyway, it's not too big of a deal, since the open source community is pretty good with providing more up-to-date ROMs long after the manufacturer stops providing them. The camera is a bummer, I'll admit. The camera quality might be better than a mid range Samsung, but only just.
Hear me out... A regular/small size gaming phone, but for the same price it comes with a 7-10 inch portable display, typeC-typeC cable (30cm) to connect it, an OK stand and a charger that if plugged through the display it chargers the phone and powers the display.
lmao imagine if it came with 2 back touch buttons with a full controller emulation thingy for when a external display is connected. THAT would be super fcking cool
Asus tried something like this a like 10 years ago with the PadFone series. You would literally put your phone inside a tablet case and the tablet was working from the phone itself. It had a separate battery so the phone was just like a charged proccesor for it. The first one was meh, the second one was way better but not many people wanted it. Because It was a bit chunky and it wasn't really reliable. I wish i owned one tho. And i hope brands will try again
Before I watch this all the way I appreciate greatly that there's a phone out there for people who couldn't care less about having a social media camera and instead want pay less than a flagship and get better actual performance. Plus on a personal note, as a Pokemon Go player, the huge battery and built in cooling system makes me really excited also as someone who's getting really bored and tired of the lack of anything exciting in any of the regular flagships beyond the honestly ridiculous camera upgrades that absolutely no one in everyday use will ever notice, phones like this really speak to me Edit: after watching this I wanna say I can't remember the last time I ever used my front faced camera also idk if it's just me but it feels like Austin went into this with his opinion already decided and it didn't matter what he saw. Again I'll say not everyone cares about having a top of the line camera or a name brand phone but having unique phones that stand out from the crowd that all just have the same colored same looking plain bricks everywhere and this feels honestly perfect. I hope Redmagic keeps making phones and keeps working to innovate and make themselves more unique
I have the $650 version and I can confidently says it my favorite phone Ive ever owned. Also the 2nd cheapest, for the price I can overlook any flaws. Also you basically have full control over the power profiles so if you dont want it in full power mode dont select that option. Its a non issue if you gave it in a joystick or controller
i have a "old" 9Pro (basically same phone) for almost a year now and it is great...stupid fast, actually good rear cameras for a gaming phone, great battery life and display out from typeC is sick. I'm using that to connect it to my tv/monitor and play some emulators with Xbox (BT) controller :) definitely buying 10Pro next year ;)
Most company are removing so many hardware features that at this point if company like asus, LG can come back to the smartphone market again if they can create phone with flagship chip and a good camera with SD card and charging brick on the box
@@imperialdra-mon5907 ASUS left the smartphone market in 2023, leaving only ROG (a separate, wholly-owned subsidiary of ASUStek... the parent company of ASUS) branded devices. ASUS-branded phones (Zenphones) exited the market in 2023. The easiest analogy is that VW AG owns both VW and Audi, with Audi owning Lamborghini and others. If VW AG announced the discontinuation of Lamborghini, you wouldn't be claiming that it's false because VW and Audi still make cars.
Now, i have a Z Fold 5... and I understand where Austin was coming from viewing this as just a "gaming phone", but there were certain details he brushed over in comparison to a Flagship phone. Less guaranteed OS updates? Well every Samsung OS update I've gotten has always just resulted in more bloatware shoe horned into the OS kernel. I don't need Samsung "Facebook". Yet every baked in useless GOOGLE knoxx-off can't be un-installed because they are "intergrated" into it, or core protected by knoxx. I mean hell. Name a phone in the last 15 years that has survived more than 3. Give me a phone that over 2 years promises a single OS update.
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Austin Evans reviewing REDMAGIC 9S Pro was not on my bingo card 👀
Appreciate the video and feedback!
Your update policy sucks lil bro, do better
@@karu3067 bro calling a company "Lil bro" is a nice joke
PLEASE get your phones to work with AT&t.
@@riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiipwait, it DOESN’T work with AT&T?! That’s a dealbreaker…
@@TheWalkthroughKillerit's because of AT&t and not Red magic. AT&t has a white list of phones they have guaranteed support for on their networks. Red magic is not among the brands that are supported.
You keep comparing it to a phone that's considerably more expensive instead of something that's closer to it's price range. And you gave the Samsung another unfair advantage by testing it with the external fan and not using it with the phone it's actually for ? Couldn't you test it on both of the phones to keep it fair ? You had it out for this phone from the beginning not a great review.
Yeah, of course the phone with a fan strapped to the back is going to be cooler than the one without a fan, that was blatant rigging it to the S24
The OnePlus 12 results shown in the video is right in it's pricing ballpark and it performed better than the Samsung in some results before a fan was strapped on. Mind you they showed results with the fan for each phone as I understand it.
It's (it is) hard to take you seriously when you write sentences like "something that's closer [to it] is price range."
You compare devices against what is considered the best in class to get a holistic view on where it ranks in the overall product category.
Otherwise, you'd only have the viewpoint of how this device does compared to other $800 phones.
Which is the right thing to do to see how it stacks up against the same price class for value. Would you for cpus compare a 6 core Ryzen with a 16 core and consider it lousy and poor value? Different price points and use cases.
I think he should have actually used it to play real games like Zelda tears of the kingdom or paper Mario the thaosand year door instead of using the phone to play bad games like cod mobile
I've never seen a single ad for one of these 😂. It would be cool to get some different ads.
Just say red magic phone to your phone a few times and you'll start seeing them
@@Fuzzypizzas good idea 🤣 I'm sure just replying to this I'll start seeing em.
I'm tired of the biden ads no matter how many times i block them youtube still shows them
@@OblivionPrimeBiden ads for what? I have premium so I haven't seen a TH-cam ad in years. I got so sick of Trump ads last election, I got premium. No political ads for years has been worth it, and I actually prefer TH-cam music to Spotify or Rhapsody.
@@AdamIsUrqed I would buy TH-cam premium, but TH-cam has been censoring me from commenting for so long now i won't give them a dim and the ads are about donating to them which is a massive no
i really don't think they should be having someone who doesn't game that much review a GAMING phone...
Exactly, but people should have opinions on things.
Yeah for me I immediately jump to
“Can I play Hoyo games at 60 without the phone boiling for once?” Cause that’s a problem that no matter what, every phone has
You're making this like it's an ads, to which it's not.
Yeah man he isn't the target consumer of course it's gonna look weird. He just had to use some common sense. There's differences between what everyone wants. Just cause I need to travel on the road does not mean I have to buy the latest and fastest car right. I will probably stop watching austin Evans now
@@deathrodamus9608They shouldn't have.
Opinion on something they don't do. For instance , people who play card mobile , this would be The best Phone for them
Bruh you missed the entire point of a gaming phone.. it's not as much about the hardware/performance these days, but rather about gaming specific features - things like bypass charging , additional charging ports (so your cable can be routed around your hands), macro creation and execution (to grind in games), video recording and sharing features, etc etc...
It's not just about FPS because as you point out, regular phones can do that - what they can't do is all the other stuff. Oh, and have you tried playing a mobile game in the summer - outside - on a non-gaming phone? I have.. it doesn't end well. On a gaming phone, the base level cooling is better, plus they have additional active cooling - you can actually play the games. Extended gaming sessions have no problems on gaming phones either.
Bro I just took my pixel 8 to Japan last week and holy fuck did it melt. My friends with iPhone 15s fared a lot better but it was still spicy
Bro im looking to buy a gaming phone, i have been looking at red magic 9 pro and i know i wont regret buying it, obviously anything is better than what i have right now. But can you reccoment me any gaming phones that are not that expensive yet can run games like arena breakout without overheating and have smooth 90-120 speed
@@igorantic9922 I think the redmagic is the most affordable, but if you need to go lower - heard good things about the performance of the recent OnePlus phones too. It's just they lack some of the game specific features. I like ROG features and unique software features myself, but those are expensive. Maybe look for deals on older ROG 6/7 on swappa or local
This dude knows nothing outside of Samsung and apple. Typical American basic consumer.
Yep I agree with you
feels like this review is an Ad for Samsung lmao
all his videos are ads, he hasnt made much real content since 2017
Why? because he told the truth even tested the phones multiple times and because you didn't like the outcome you feel it's a ad? LOL thats extremely sad because I could say the same thing if the test he showed and others have came out on red magics favor 😂
it doesn't matter what brand it is because the problem is him
got to get that samsung money
And that's why people who aren't playing Mobile games regularly shouldn't review Gaming phones
Because they don't know why Redmagic or Rogs are better than normal flagships
For once the touch sampling rate is way better on gaming phones
And the ability to retain fps in intense situations during the gaming session is so much better
For example: the s24 ultra drop frames alot while playing codm Ranked lobbies (no I'm not talking about elite or master lobbies or your pubs any phone can run fine while playing low ranked matches or pubs I'm talking Legendary ranked and scrims) the fps some times drop to 90 which messes up sensitivity increases motion blur and touch sampling as well not to mention it gets extremely hot
while redmagic retains fps like you can get 115-120 easily yes it gets hot but only like 40-41°C max
So yes it is worth it for People to buy these gaming phones if they want to play at the highest ranks comfortably
BASICALLY you got soft hands boooyyyy 😂 I agree he should try to get to mythic on a mobile game 😂
I bought the phone and I don't even play competitive games I just play PC games like Minecraft java edition and switch games like Zelda tears of the kingdom the game runs flawlessly because of the fan
Touch sampling rate is 240hz on S24U, that's faster than you can move your fingers. You are NOT reacting and changing directions in less than 4ms. Also, FPS does not affect touch sampling or sensitivity. And ranked lobbies are running the same game code as a normal lobby, same stuff happens, it's just more competitive. However thermals are an issue, but active coolers are cheap, as he demonstrated it performs the same when you attach a fan.
Like, yeah, gaming phones can run games faster, but at significant costs, whereas a normal flagship can do the same with a cooler and have all other benefits. There's just not a market for it anymore like there was 5 years ago.
@@randomblock1_you're completely right
Common issues with gaming phones in my experience. Cheap hardware, Battery issues, little to none software updates, consistency.
Honestly, I hardly ever use a front facing camera.
So under the screen is fine even if lower quality.
And yes, more software updates, more is better.
I have been summoned and I'm now here to tell people I absolutely hate holes and notches for the sake of a front facing camera I've used maybe once. It's like a third of the reason my daily driver phone is a Sony Xperia, because it truns out you can have a thin bezel and get front facing stereo speakers and a front cam in case you absolutely must videoconference from your phone without having to do expensive nonsense to make your screen look worse. So yeah, I would have taken bezels above a under screen cam, so note for the future there, but that is my second choice over the other nonsense.
The other two reasons are a 3.5mm jack and expandable storage, so the RedMagic is absolutely a contender here.
You're definitely not the only one. In all the years of owning smartphones, I don't think I've used front facing cameras more than 5 or so times.
To be fair, the selfie camera quality looks the same as one the Samsung Fold 6 which also has an under screen camera. For me the only big minus on this phone is the software support.
True but I would love android with FaceID which would require a notch or a pill, but for a seamless and fast unlocking? Why the hell not? Or just make a phone with big top bottom bezels and front firing stereo speakers like HTC One M8
@@sklynexdXiaomi Mi 8/Poco F1 had a better, faster and more secure face recognition system, but people keep liking fingerprint scanners, even now that we are in the worst kind, under screen.
Try gaming on S24 ultra with warm weather.. then you'll know why we need gaming phones.
Just get a cooler, like he demonstrated. I don't think the RedMagic phone would be much better in warm weather.
@@thumbsarehandy. Yes cause people carry around coolers in their pockets....
@@davidjorquera4192yea exactly i have the Rog phone 6 and that cooler is more simple to carry around instead of one you can buy for any phone and still it's large and i wouldn't carry it around
@@thumbsarehandy. agreed!
It get hot while gaming... like every phone 😅
Love the camera bump-less back and the under display front camera. I almost never use the front camera so a lower image quality there doesn't really matter.
funny thing is if you also put the cooler on the redmagic you'd prob get even better performance i'd assume.
whole point of a gaming phone is to game on them for long period of time without as much throttling, ontop of the fact they got charging separation too so you can actual game with it plugged in without it using the battery which should help its battery lifecycle and prob performance too. (idk why other phones still don't do this)
i'd 100% buy one, not only because it's cheaper for flagship specs but i do a ton of gaming on my phone so getting the most out of it would be a pretty big +.
Other company afraid to more expenses 😂😂/ they afraid of that happen there new phone no one buy
Bc people Already got better battry and performance
I also buy new phone only bc battry problem and charging problem
4:17 Finally. The yandere phone.
Mora is going obsessive
Yeah. I'm not against the idea of giving devices actual personalities but, seriously, she seems like she'd get annoying after 10 minutes. That whole thing feels more like a gag from a sci-fi comedy than something which should exist IRL.
(Or else it'd be like that ep of Gravity Falls and she goes psycho stalker if you ignore her...)
@@jasonblalock4429 Yeeaahh... It's absolutely a gimmick, but I'm sure its really easy to mute and turn off. It's pretty amusing for a little bit though!
Imagine playing Yandere Dev games on it 😂
@@jasonblalock4429 just turn it off then
I have never seen an ad for this in my lifetime
I've seen like 10 billion ads for it I bought the phone it's great
What about this video tho?😂
Simple Google search one time and boom ads
Might be controversial, but sometimes you need these 'Gaming' phones to push the envelope that will then in a few years will become the standard, if not for these phones, we'd likely not get the 120hz displays, or the better controller support, or better cooling, maybe even more RAM and storage options.
So I say let these smaller players continue to push the industry so in a few years we'll get better features as standard.
Redmagic is capitalizing on the huge market of “mobile phone” gamers, there are actually a lot of dedicated phone gamers out there. This phone is obviously not meant for regular phone users, thats why redmagic decided to focus on performance rather than an all rounder phone to keep their price lower than other flagship phones. As a mobile gamer myself, i used to have a dedicated android gaming phone that i leave in my room and only use for gaming and saving important files and a daily driver iphone. A lot of gamers use this phone the same way as i do, some do use it as a daily driver phone since not everyone has money to spend on multiple devices. They probably only support 2 years plus to give those few people who are wealthy a reason to upgrade their gaming phone every other year to make up for their smaller market share for phones IMO, though that doesnt justify only giving consumers only 1 major os update. I love redmagic’s innovations when it comes to touch sampling rate which actually feels very responsive to the point where a very small movement from your finger would shake your aim if you max it. They were the first to release a phone with 165hz display though not many games can utilize that much frames, but as more phones adapt a higher refresh rate, then game devs would be more likely build games that can utilize that much frames. These types of company are usually the reason why bigger companies are obligated to improve their display not only on the resolution but also on refresh rate and touch sampling rate.
@zeexii5660 THIS is how I use my Redmagic 9 Pro. I bought it specifically to stay connected to a Gamesir G8 controller 24/7 and use it as a multimedia consuming/smart home hub/and featured gaming device, nothing more, nothing less. There is no social media BS or constant notifications to worry about getting in the way. I stream my Twitch through it flawlessly. It basically just has a permanent spot on my nightstand/coffee table to control virtually everything in my home AND game/stream whatever I like. If I want to take it out and about (don't do it often unless I know I'm going to have free time while I am), I'll just hotspot my Z Flip 5 to it and do whatever I like.
You have to think broader than "durr it's just a gaming phone). Naah. The good thing about using the device this way is it'll last for quite a few years. I don't need no updates or patches, the thing doesn't have any of my personal details on it or anything. If there's purchases that I want to make, just whip out my real phone, buy, and keep it movin.
This wasn't a "real review" instead of it being a "why get this over that". And tbf, my opinion is the exact opposite of Austin's... Why would you buy a lesser, dedicated Android gaming handle over one of these and mold it to what you want/need over time?
120Hz displays on phones preceded the GaMiNg phones by about 2 years.
By "better controller support" do you mean... buttons?
GaMiNg phones don't generally have more storage, but may have more RAM than a standard contemporary device.
@@MrHeylookitsmei think Austin’s review is very one sided and isn’t looking at the bigger picture and its possible use case. This is exactly the same as big streamers having 2 separate pc where the other one is built for maximum power and the other as a dual pc streaming setup to offload unnecessary background processes from your gaming pc, with the power of current generation cpu’s and gpu’s you might think its overkill, i mean it is but if youre a competitive player and want to have even the slightest advantage in your game and have a lot of extra cash to spend then why wouldnt you do it. Thats the same with these types of gaming phone, 120-165hz display, 2khz touch sampling, shitty under display camera might, overclocked processor, higher ram and an active cooling fan sounds unnecessary and possibly overkill, but thats what pro/competitive players want and might eventually need when mobile games can finally utilize it all. You could say the huge battery capacity is offset by an offset by an active cooling fan, well everyone who uses this phone mainly for gaming almost never use it just on battery since this phone has bypass charging where youre using power directly from your changer rather than your battery. All of this is the reason why this phone is the best phone for competitive mobile gamers out there.
And to add on, when Austin said why would anyone buy this for mobile gaming when the steam deck is easily accessible is a really bad comparison. Its true that it is a mobile or portable console/pc but they have an entirely different game library from mobile phones.
@@zeexii5660finally some people that understand the market some pc don't believe that there are actually serious mobile games and serious mobile gamers
Redmagic 9s Pro - 700$
Samsung S24 Ultra - 1299$
Redmagic gives you Solid Constant Performance
Samsung may compromise a bit when it gets hot
Redmagic Doesn't need an extra cooling for most scenerios
Samsung definitely needs one at some point which the phone being that costly.
Redmagic you need to may reduce your expectations about Camera
Samsung gives good camera but it's 10x optical zoom that's not much...
Redmagic gives you a benchmark score of 2.3M
Samsung gives you a score of 1.9M - 2M
Considering the cost gap it's 600$ difference and the thing you may lose is Camera, kinda okay Ui And OS.. then the bettery is definitely satisfying enough, i mean you can play games about 8-10hrs (Nobody would play that long for straight, and the battery charges under 45 minutes, manageable charging)
Bro you have no idea I used to play 14hrs max 10 hrs min
aaand get ready for rule 34 artists to immediately getting to work with Mora
💀💀💀💀
They've at it since the original Red magic 9 dropped back in February.
@@GeneralNickles aw shit
They've been there 😶🌫️
@@Namik3 o h n o
Its unbelievably sad how excited we get about headphone jacks.
I cant be the only one getting really annoyed with bluetooth headphones. Sometimes i want the reliability of a cable :/
Headphone jack, SD card, and removable battery are all things that need to make a comeback. My last Motorola had all those things. My S23+, however....
Headphones/earbuds with no need to pair, or worry about battery malarkey, is just the way things should be.
@@AdamIsUrqed I can live without a headphone Jack but no SD Card slot is an absolute dealbreaker for me as I actually have several hundreds of gigabytes of movies and music on it from my collection. I don't understand why they keep removing these features on new phones.
Also: THE CAMERA DOES NOT STICK OUT!
@@Dovarcraft Yup I swapped to a pixel a few years ago and sacrified the no additional storage, constantly having to delete things is so annoying.
@@AdamIsUrqedAnd the silly max volume..
"who doesn't want to use the front facing camera on their phone?" obviously the ones paying 900 for a gaming phone and not a flagship lmao
uhm no who?
Phones should bring back 360° cam so you could benefit from main cam to take selfies
Also no need to put selfie cam that's always inferior against back cam
Tbh I barely use the front camera, I'm more interested in the performance. I know everyone is different tho
I am one of these persons 😅
I'd gladly buy a phone without a selfie cam if it would be cheaper. Don't need it, hardly use it, rather have the screen space instead
Sponsorship was for Samsung it seems 😂
😂😂😂 could be.
It was too blatant to not notice
_"OMG, a headphone jack?"_
- Average iPhone user in 2018 looking at Android phones.
@@dylives7667 bro it's both sides saying that 💀💀💀
@@CyanLuciferNah fr.
In 2018 they mentioned! These days though, it's much the same for both sides... I really wish that wasn't the case but unless you're going with an Asian device like the Red Magic or even a Sony phone, you have to look at the mid to low end for a headphone jack still.... it sucks.
the thing is, it's rare to see a jack in a flagship at all
@Dewm_ it's only rare to see it on $1000 phones. Most phones that range from $100-$700 have a headphone jack
Gaming phones are for people who game for a longer period of time. Yes, it has the same chip as all other flagships but there is active cooling so you don't have to go around with a cooler and controller.
The Chip is overclockable through software... It's less risky than manual overclocking on smartphones so
No it's not the same chip anymore
@@ssmcrew12 You can overclock it in all phones nowadays because they all have the "gaming space" feature. The difference is that the gaming phone has the cooling to push the chip further and for longer.
@@didomitkopinatores Diablo mode is different from game mode, game mode only turns your phone to performance mode while diablo mode literally overcloaks your GPU
@@ssmcrew12yes it's the same chip just overclocked but still a 8gen 3 but it's burning your hands and skin making the phone untouchable for even 1 minute even with a fan (at that point I'm not holding the phone but using a controller)
so don't think it's worth a overclocked chip for a few more fps on a smartphone even with me being a huge gamer and mobile gamer .however I have a different opinion on that matter on pc given that we have liquid cooling
Dude those live wallpapers are the modern day BonziBuddy I swear 😂
Yeah bro
Steam Deck / ROG Ally etc. are *not* *relevant* at all to the discussion. A gaming phone is so you can game with an actual fully portable device. Anytime, anywhere, with no advance planning. Nobody is standing in line at the grocery store and then whips out a Steam Deck from their front pocket.
Yeah I have a steam deck and the redmagic 9s pro there good
It kinda is though, as the steam deck is a mobile device, meant to be taken wherever you want. Sure you're probably not gonna do it in the line at a store, but I wouldn't necessarily do that with a phone either. The steam deck is easy to carry in a purse or backpack, so I would not say it requires any real planning in advance. The real question is price; are you going to buy a 900 dollar phone just to play mobile games, or spend 400 dollars on a steam deck and 500 dollars for a more midrange phone, that can probably play those same mobile games anyway?
@@WolfieNamira Depends on what your doing with it I have both a steam deck and a redmagic 9s pro and there both great devices its the games that matter. I play PC games on my redmagic 9s pro and steam deck I think the redmagic 9s pro is great because you cant allways bring multiple devices with you for example bringing a steam deck and a phone with you is way harder then simply bringing a gaming phone. for me bringing the redmagic phone with me seems like an all in one solution for games like minecraft java edition where you could have a PC level experience on your phone and i feel like thats where the redmagic 9s pro shines. the steam deck also works but you need a seprate phone for mobile data unless theres some portable usb c data thingy then idk how your going to just going to bring a steam deck with you. usally when i bring my steam deck someone is usally pocketing me with their personal hotspots on their phone and unless i have a cable for wired hotspots its laggy.
@@WolfieNamira If you're a dude, you aren't carrying around a purse. And taking a backpack literally everywhere you go really isn't reasonable.
I'm talking about all those use cases where you are out and about with just the things in your pants pockets. Out to eat at a restaurant with your family and waiting for your food. Whip out the phone. At a crowded stadium for a sports game. The phone. Heck in the bathroom stall at work while doing your business. Are you taking a freaking backpack in there? No....
It used to be the DS / 3DS that served this purpose of all-portable anywhere device. The Steam Deck / backpack device can't meet these use cases. That's the void that game phones can fill.
@@metaldiceman not really though, the performance of normal phones can usually play games just fine. the only thing a gaming phone would probably be useful for is emulation or having lots of RAM, there just is no real reason to buy a gaming phone, unless you just want it to look cool
3:35 Austin you’re not slick
Removing charger from the phone box for environmental sustainability is the most BS phase every smartphone consumer is going through
The fact that the phone is still selling means most consumer dgaf😅
"we're being environmentally friendly that's why we want you to buy a power brick which is going to be a separate box that's going to end up in a landfill somewhere"
Yeah, I have to use one of my 12 other USB-C chargers or spend $8 to get a 60-watt charger from the 'zon.
The absolute horror.
@@4bafiafzil999Cant really do much tho😢😢People still want the latest phones
It kind of makes sense to not include a brick when you look at the top 3 sellers in the US for example. Iphones have been using the same brick for the past five gens, Samsung for the past 3-ish gens, same as the Pixel which used 30w right until the 9's. Sure, there's no argument that the environmental sustainability point is somewhat bs, but at the same time they don't have fast charging as an important selling point so they can get away with not including a brick. There is one thing that I find funny though, Pixels don't have a brick in the box, but their wireless charging stands do...
The redmagic 9s gives you your very own Waifu!!! That would have me sold.
I have the 9 Pro (non-s) and the battery life is incredible. As far as burning more battery than the samsung... you can just adjust the TDP? lol. You have ACCESS to more cooling and therefore more power but you can EASILY tune for efficiency. I have tested previous generation 8 gen 1 AND older 800 and 700 series snapdragons. This chip is VERY efficient and adjustable with an incredibly large battery. You just have to be more active in adjusting your performance. I am a BIG fan of having a physical headphone jack & IR blaster which were old features that I miss from smartphones. I have never worried about having the "best" camera and far more worried about having more performance. I regularly experiment with Winlator, high end console emulation, and dabbling in mobile gaming. For me, I prefer the redmagic over the flagship Samsung because of the performance, superior cooling, battery life, and price.
Who doesn't want to use the front facing camera.... and here I am thinking to myself "no biggie, I almost never use the front facing camera".. LOL
Everyone does at least once
Honestly this doesn't seem like a bad niche phone. I'm not a gamer so it's not for me, but if you're someone who wants a flagship at a lower cost than an iphone or s24 ultra and you also happen to find value in gaming features like the headphone jack and side buttons, i think it makes sense.
What an unsponsored ad😂
if you didnt know people use gaming phones for Call of duty mobile for esports events like iqoo, redmagic, asus rog phone
but sometimes codm only allows samsung flag ship phone to play on
I got the RedMagic 9 PRO a couple months ago and quite honestly, for a factory unlocked 512GB dual SIM gaming phone, this is the best bang for your buck that you can get for under a grand
Only complaint I got about it is how flimsy the case is, but beyond that it's an incredible phone
Sadly I think it's a scam as I'll be useless after 1-2year due to support and that such a disappointing factor especially with the price your paying 800-900 its still expensive and at that price point I would just get a s24+ with 7 Years of not only security updates but android updated as well and water and dust resistant not even the ultra if you want below 1000
this phone just has too many drawbacks imho 👍
Yeah, but at the same time the S24+ will be factory locked to a particular network to get it under 1k, whereas the 9 PRO is factory unlocked from the get go
If you wanna go factory unlocked with the S24+ you're looking at 1500 minimum
@@timwinter4420 also the s24+ isn't able to play games at full graphic and fps.
People hate mobile gaming but it makes a half the gaming revenue world wide and has no signs of slowing down. That's why they make gaming phones
👍yup.
People hate mobile gaming because 99% of mobile games are hot garbage only designed to manipulate you into spending money.
That's why best mobile games are just ports of console/pc games.
Gaming phones are not worth it . The whole idea of gaming is to play beautiful games , but in android there are hardly any good games . The ones that are left are pubg , cod, and all other multiplayer games. We need single players games like ori and will of the wasps , other heavy and beautiful story based games than only the price and performance will be justified . Otherwise 12 gb ram 16gb ram on a smartphone is completely useless
Wdym hardly any good phones there are many good Android phones
@@luffymonkey4232 try Death's Door.
imagine your in class and Mora starts talking out of nowhere 💀
I'm watching this on my red magic 9 pro. I'm loving this phone
Same
😂😂😂😂lmfao same hahaha 💯💯
What's your favorite game on the phone that makes best use of the spec in it ? - if you don't mind , thanks :))
No camera notch display +
With 3rd party software camera is fine
No camera bumps in the back...
The precision touch screen is amazing for drawing, sketching, editing
I love it 😊
Headphone jack makes it better than 90% of phones already
edegelord
can't remember the last time I wished I had a headphone jack
@@goldy_on_pc930ahow is that an edgy thing to say? Anyone who values good audio wants headphone jacks to return.
@@S.T.A.L.K.E.R.-Strelok most people just want something that is convenient and just works and not care as much about the audio quality as long it is not horrendously bad people were already switching to bluetooth even when headphone jacks were popular,, do u know what most people actually care about? its the camera if it the among the first things people evaluate before buying a smart phone, almost every reviewer talks about the camera as a stone point when reviewing a smart phone
@@goldy_on_pc930 i aint readin allat
I never use front facing cameras. The teardrop/holepunch drive me crazy they're so ugly and can obstruct things in videos.
When you were comparing benchmarks to other phones, you should've also mentioned the ever so slight price difference..
I am not someone who really games on my phone, but now I am even more interested in this phone. I don’t like Samsung's UI, and I am not loving the Pixel 8 Pro that is my work phone. It's significantly better than my personal Samsung S21 FE. But it's just me
I hate camera bumps. My phone is as thick as the camera bump, no matter what, so, use that space for something that improves the experience. Seems like in this case it's battery and cooling. Which makes a lot of sense to me
The front camera is never really important to me. If I am going to take a picture I care about I use the back camera every time.
And you pointed out it is cheaper than other phones of a similar caliber. So that's pretty awesome!
Since I don’t game much, that means that I should be able to squeeze some extra battery life out of it. It's also a nice looking phone
Thank you for the review! I am pretty excited for when I can finish saving up for it
oh! And I forgot the headphone jack! I have really nice over the ear wired headphones that I could finally use again
Madam when you buy red magic nine 9 s pro you working more greater even you not playing game because space it provide
You do not like playing games okay but it much better for your work
Apart from the nonexistent water resistance and the lackluster software support, this phone is perfect for everyone.
Imma have to dissagree here. For me a headphone jack, flagship chipset and a big oled screen and the cheapest model being 650...im sold
the point here is if you were considering buying this as a 2nd phone for "gaming".
but if you're going to daily drive this thing then i guess its a pretty good deal
@@waklo5459 obviously it would be a daily driver, I ain't gonna carry around two phones 🤣
Oh hey I have a 9S Pro+. I got earlybird early access discounts so I got it for only $770.
It is @@Redd_Mann
😭😭😭
And your review?
And the camera not sticking out...
The thing i dream about...
Most phones are pretending to be cameras
Yes there is a market for these I've owned 3 and they've all performed way better than my flagships by far
Watching this video without headphones in was a mistake😂😂
Well benchmark isn't the only thing. Phones like s24 ultra do take performance hit when you're playing with a good lobby sometimes 30-40 players land on a single area and the phone starts to throttle. But gaming phones tend to perform better in those scenarios. And having triggers built into the photo is also pretty nice that means you can see more on screen and react faster as well.
Don't matter, S24 Ultra best.
@@IS-ie3jw I gave you the senario where It'll matter. Doesn't matter if you believe it or not
14:15 I am someone who doesn’t care about the front facing camera.
Omg SAME!
Same here
same
Awesome one Austin. I was thinking of buying one myself. Your video did help a lot
bro if you want to game and play demanding games get the phone
the phone performs better than the s24 at warzone mobile
The Under screen front facing camera is so cool, I know the quality sucks now but the idea of not having a pinhole at all is so aluring to me, hopefully a company like Samsung or OnePlus can improve on the design
Am I the only one who never uses the front facing camera on their phone or is it just a youtuber thing
I think it's a thing that only youtube reviewers really care about. Most normal people rarely if ever use their front cameras. The huge notch/ eye lens on iphones is the main reason I'm not an iPhone person. My android phone at least has a tiny hole punch camera, although I would prefer no front camera or an under screen lower quality one.
@@CadgerChristmasLightShow my opinion exactly
Something is off about this review
Slapping a cooler
1. Is an Extra Expense + The S24Ultra (24U) is more expensive than the Red Magic 9S Pro (Red)
2. Adds more bulk. Can it even be pocketed? Can it powered by the S24U or I need to carry a powers source in addition to the cooler.
3. Is way less subtle in public that just the Red on its own.
4. How much does weigh + S24U VS Red. Gamers usually go hours, and more weight means less play time.
When gaming
5. CODM multiplayer (in the video) is a small map in 5v5 and less things happening and the S24 will do well in Ultra setting but in Battle Royale where you have giant map, more players ( Squad vs squid with a one more squad coming to third party with vehicles, gunfire, grenades and Classes (special abilities) activated, it becomes demanding and in those random instances increased bursts of raw processing power are absolutely necessary to be not at a disadvantage) and gaming phones handle that much much better.
The Benchmarking
6. Red's body ran hotter than the S24U in a benchmark that is sustained full load for 20 minutes 3Dmark Steel Nomad Stress Test but in gaming that's not the case its random bursts of power so I don't see it getting that crazy hot, warm maybe.
7. True the Red uses more battery to get a better performance therefore consumes more juice. The S24 is draining 11%/20mins Vs the Red's 18%/20mins but the cooler isn't getting its juice from the S24U 6:04 but from an unseen source. Had it been hooked up to the S24U (if possible that the S24U could power the cooler) it would likely consume more power than the Red judging by the size of the cooler.
Missed opportunity
8.Since the phones were benchmarked, there should have been a price to performance ratio comparison for the phones with S24U with & without the cooler and its price added. Might that have been deliberate to suit the narrative, I wonder......
Other
9. You failed to mention that the Red supports pass-through charging, also known as charge separation or bypass charging. This feature allows the Red to draw power directly from the charger without using the battery’s stored energy. This can help reduce heat and prolong battery life, especially during long intensive gaming sessions. Trying to do this with the S24U will make it hotter therefore more prone to lag and destroy the battery and to prevent this you will have to put down your S24U to charge it for like 1hr 5mins to charge to full-MOOD RUINED
Conclusion
10. Your Conclusion is a bit out of touch IMO cause not everyone have the cash to spring for an S24U and a Rouge Ally. Mobile gaming is great way to have fun (games have also gotten better in quality e.g. Genshin impact, CODM, PUBG, Fortnite, LOL etc.) and if you are on a tighter budget cause the Base Red at $600 something is still a great value for gaming + phone
I am just a dude and I may have gotten somethings incorrect, so I stand to be corrected
@0:09 Guess the marketing team for this phone agrees, Austin, see "re-tresh rate"... trash, hrhrhr.
Yes, those reload bonuses can be a lifesaver, especially when you hit a rough patch. Helps to keep playing without breaking the bank
13:52 That smile really made me uncomfortable...
That’s a great idea! Betting is always more fun with friends around, and those bonuses for referring them seem pretty generous.
the sole reason imo that the gaming phone exists is that a normal phone can throttle, and is the biggest reason to not use it for some situations. it's just that it's super niche. throttling in any type of gaming is not a fun experience
I feel like the video made some good points but there are some things that either didn't add up or were in my opinion not correct.
1. 50c for a phone is not hot at all. I have a Note 20 that in 3DMark gets up to 75c, and I feel it but it's not like hard to hold. Maybe he has extremely sensitive skin or something.
2. His claims of the 9S having "more battery drain" don't really make sense since comparing to other benchmarks, the 9S wins in terms of battery life. May say that is due to the extra 1,500mah battery size, and that helps, but normally the more battery drain, the less and less charge= less time.
3. Just me, I have never heard of anyone using the front camera, ever. They will just use the back camera.
4. 50mp is perfectly usable in terms of pictures, videos, etc. Yeah, the S24 has a better camera, but would you pay 2x the price for that
He's right about the software being a bit bad on translation, and the security updates tho
i discovered the Mora AR mode and so we HAD to take a pic with her and austin
I really love my Red Magic 6s Pro as I got good specs for a decent price. Still runs well and battery life is decent for three years of age but gets quite hot playing games. Biggest draws were headphone jack and no front camera punch or notch.
Interested to upgrade about when 10/10s releases, then it'll be about four years between my phone purchases.
Would love like a non-gamefied looking version of this phone. The whole flat rectangluer design actually looks really amazing, and a headphone jack is a solid plus. Just the gamery stuff on it looks a bit tacky to me. A clean back design as well as stock android on this phone and I would buy it in an instant
You can buy cases that cover up the gamery stuff.
They actually do have a non gamer equivalent from their parent company it's called the nubia Z60 Ultra
@@zzqart thanks, I checked it out and I'm really not a fan of that pretty ugly back camera, although pretty much everything else looks solid
The Frost and Sleet versions aren't as "terminally virgin" & dorky looking as the other two imo. Frost looks really good actually. The ASUS ROG 8 Pro looks really good with the back screen, dot matrix lights, on or off. Not to mention, it feels amazing. It also plays really well. Only downside is that there's no way built in fan like the Redmagic, but it takes awhile to start heating up anyway.
@@ViraL_FootprinT.ex.e While I can see people buying the Redmagic due to having a top end chipset for half the price of proper Flagships, the ROG phone for me doesn't make sense at all. Its more expensive than some flagships but had the same specs as those but with a worse camera. I won't lie, the back screen does look pretty cool, but that's it. If the Asus ROG phone was genuinely cheaper than flagships the it might make more sense, although I still think it's a weird looking phone
Yh ok but u payed 1200€ for s24 ultra while you can buy the 9s pro for 650€ bro
tbf, the reason i still go with the Asus RoG phones is mostly because of the feature set i get. front firing speakers is a big plus for me, and i get access to Asus Audio Wizard on my phone, which have proven incredibly useful as i listen to a lot of heavy metal, and it helps balancing out the tuning of my headphones/earbuds. the camera is good enough for me, although others like google pixels, samsung and sony's phones cameras far outshines it (not gonna compare iPhone, not the same OS). and while i may not get the same feature rich experience with Asus as you would with samsung, the amount of bloatware on the phone when you get it, is way lower. and then there's price. costs less than the newest samsung, unless you go all the way with a pro model. on top of that, i use my phone for games, so stuff like extreme performance mode (and even furrther when attaching the cooler) is a nice feature, although never really needed.
I would rather see a video why in 2024 we have phones with out an MicroSD reader.. dust and water protection is not a good reason.
true , samsung had the galaxy s5 with a micro sd card slot and a removable battery back in 2015....
it is thé reason, and a valid one.
and Sony has it and still has a headphone jack. It's just copying Apple at this point
1 TB SD card is $50. A company can charge $200+ more for 256 gigs compared to 64 or 128.
It's not about water/dust proofing. SD card can sit with sim card tray, which is already ip rated. It's about money. Period.
@@MrK1kk3r not true we still have the sim slot even in the flag ship phones. why not put a micro sd beside the sim like the old was used in the past.
The thing you missed in the video is that the actual benefit of having active cooling on a phone is not necessarily being faster than the others (although bigger number good for publicity) but the fact that it can help a lot with thermal throttling. Sure even my 8 gen 1 phone can run cod mobile a 120 fps, but can do it only for 15 minutes max and then the performance decreases over time. Same deal with emulating switch games, until they become unplayable. However having that fan can help to reduce or even eliminate that effect and since most of the apps don't need the full performance of the chip, it's probably not going to get uncomfortably hot unless you're really pushing it.
but it prevents water and dust resistance
@@abcdoooabcd that is a trade off, yes
Fascinating line of "thought"... the device without cooling thermal throttles... add active cooling so it can run hotter for longer... it probably won't get uncomfortably hot unless you're............................................. doing exactly that.
@@jefferyG499 gaming is usually not gonna be as demanding as running stress tests for long periods of times, that's why stress tests and Benchmarks exist in the first place. So unless your plan is watching Benchmarks run over and over again instead of playing games that are usually optimized for 2 or 3 gens of processor being if not more, it's gonna beat different results
And plus the whole point of the phone is to provide top notch performance whilst being relatively affordable so making a comparison with an expensive phone that wasn't built for this whilst needing a also expensive and rather awkward to carry around makes no sense
Personally I couldn't care less about selfie cam. I'd be more than happy to have a full screen display if it meant poor selfie quality
Love my redmagic 9S pro, love the under screen camera, I'm not big on selfies, I don't think anyone purchasing this phone would be, love the speakers, holy hell, they're actually an alternative to a jbl speaker, was not expecting tech this advanced I must say. The oled screen is just beautiful, I've never seen such a beautiful screen on a phone before.
You talk about updates of major brand phones, my old iphone can't be used anymore because the last update rendered the access button inoperable. This is another reason why we would want to buy a chinese brand phone, we know we don't have to put up with that kind of bs. Redmagic has better quality tech for a better price, and the phone is a work of art. I should also mention the flat cameras, very nice. Highest screen ratio as well. I'm not a phone gamer btw, I didn't buy it for that, I sure as hell enjoy the tunes coming out of it though. I sure as hell want to see more phones engineered like this, and i'm sure Austin does too. So sick of seeing major phone brands ditch quality for more profits too.
gaming phone does needed in 2024, where some doesn't want to carry big handheld like ally or steam deck to play games or only games they play is like mobile games. i'm not talking about clash or clans or something like that, but rather like Honkai impact 3rd, Honkai star rail, Wuthering waves, etc
and this phone is quite good at it too, for people who needs extra or special buttons and prefer dedicated gaming phone instead of using their main phone to do so
Didnt show game center and plugins and diablo mode to Overlock 😅 some may think its gimmicky....but the cross hair, hunt, and scout mode ive used them in ranked matches to clutch wins. Tested in other modes and its solid, feels like hacking/ cheating. It has all kinds of performance and gpu settings that the galaxy wont have 😅
20 min stress test, try 4hr -6hr gaming sesh. Can the samsung keep its frame rates? How does batter look like.
Does it actually do 120fps or is it like previous years where games like pubg unlock the featire a year or more later.
S20+ - had 90fps when it was made available in pubg
S21 ultra- had to mod files to get 90fps
S22Ultra - mod files for 90fps, Barely end of last year it was re enabled.
Thats why i skipped the s24 / s25 ultra . Great phone, great OS 👍 but unless using fans and chargers it will struggle over longer sessions
Does samsung have bypass/ Separate charge? To keep the batt untouched and only use the charger to operate the phone?
The built in fan is good enough in a A/c environment, hell throw a cheap desk fan and it will circulate better and cooler air. Worse case throw the coolor on for 10mins if your really woried. In my ac room after 10-15mins chilling it got to 13° C and stayed that way for a good bit. Maybe 20mins later after direct sunlight and YT it jumped back to >35° C even then it doesnt even feel hot 😅
Batt life is great, obviously unless underload which makes sense since the red magic is boosted its cpu and GPU.
Ive been playing pubg on 120fps on the 9s Pro and its solid 🪨 80w charging for 10-30mins and your good to go. ❤
No one gonna mention the fact that asus has been shitting on Samsung for like 6 years now
Also you said no game pushes the phones to their limits, modded games really push phones.
i love the red magic phones and have been using them for a few years now. a lot of things in this video are personal things you think about phones. for example i never use the front camera. also the built-in controllers are great i also have a few separate ones, like the one from razer, but i don't like anything as much as the built-in ones. i understand the criticism, but i think the feedback is very personal. only the update policy really needs to be adjusted. That is for me every time to look further to see what else is available. If the update policy is better then i would buy the next one without thinking.
Didnt test it vs another gaming phone: Check
Disnt understand that cooling is better to retain performance over time instead of throttling: check
Only checked the cooler with the S24 but not the redmagic: check
Think cameras is the most important in the world for gamers: check
Not realising you shouldnt review gaming phones: check
No idea what touch sampling rate is: check.
Rename this lazy mans review.... Cause you did nothing to review ut. Only to talk negative about it.
At 9:35 i had to chuck my phone across my room so fast, i was with my family 💀
Edit: My phone was also at max volume (also now it has a massive crack on the screen)🔥👍
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I will be buying this phone since i was waiting for a new powerful phone without a camera hole on the front, after having a Xiaomi 9T Pro with a pop up camera and now one with a camera hole again i just missed the full screen experience and will be getting this phone mainly because of this reason
Yeah it's good I got one I only recommend it if you play demanding PC/switch games on your phone though
I think you are being a bit biased. The tests weren’t fair nor accurate. You also mentioned something about optimizing power consumption to reduce heat and extend battery life. Here’s why that would be a disadvantage for mobile gamers: In gaming, FPS (frames per second) is really important, especially for games like CODM and PUBG Mobile. iPhones do this, and it’s really annoying. In situations where many players are close together on the map, especially in scrims or esports, the screen will dim significantly, and/or the frame rate will drop as soon as the phone heats up a bit. On Samsung devices, I’ve experienced frame drops in the same scenarios.
That’s why I think RedMagic went for a different approach.
Also, when you perform benchmarks for battery life, you should keep in mind that other companies optimize their phones by reducing performance when the phone gets too hot. By reducing performance, the battery life will obviously appear “better,” even though performance per battery life is probably still better on the RedMagic.
I have the Red magic 9 pro that released earlier this year (the 12gb of RAM model). Let me explain why I chose it over anything else:
1. The haptic triggers
They are an absolute game changer. In CoD mobile you have a distinct advantage over anyone using pure touch controls. In games like Minecraft and Stardew valley, the game becomes infinitely more playable. Taking your thumbs off the virtual sticks to press what would be trigger buttons on a controller is just really awkward and annoying. These haptic triggers fix that.
2. The headphone jack
Not many worthwhile phones these days have a headphone jack. I don't think I need to explain any further.
3. It has a "console" mode
If you plug HDMI cable into it, it goes into "console" mode, and allows you to play your games on any screen. The only other phones that do this are flagship Samsung phones that support DEX.
4. It's cheaper than any comparable phone
There's almost not reason to get the 16Gb model. It's an overpriced waste of money. The 12Gb model has plenty of RAM and costs significantly less. But even the 16Gb model is almost HALF THE PRICE of the S24 ultra, and it actually outperforms that phone as well.
5. The active cooling
There are few gamer phones with fans, but they all cost a fortune, and offer very little over a normal flagship phone. This phone is the exception. It has features that actually make it unique on top of active cooling to keep it from burning your hands. (Austin is just being a cry baby. It doesn't get very hot with normal use.)
6. No camera bump
No explanation needed.
7. No notch in the screen for a camera i dont care about
No explanation needed.
WARNING: getting this phone activated on north american carriers can be a pain. The only carrier that "officially" supports it is T-Mobile. If you want any other carrier, then you're gonna have a rough time. It took finagling to get mine activated on Verizon.
Re: 3 - Motorola has desktop and gaming modes for external displays. Honor and Huawei have desktop modes for external displays.
@@nickthaskater yeah but they all suck. And one of them requires you to buy a Huawei.
The only one worth using is DEX on Samsung phones. Literally just plug it in and it just works. Just like with the Red magic 9 pro.
@@GeneralNickles Moto Ready For works exactly the same as DeX.
I've owned my Redmagic 9s pro for more than 7 months now and I bought it after my Samsung Z Fold 3 broke with the inner screen not turning on anymore and needs replacement. One big pro about owning the Redmagic 9s pro that wasn't mentioned in the video is that it's literally 50% cheaper than a Samsung S24 Ultra. I've owned Samsung flagships since the S7 Edge with around a 2-year phone cycle so I was already thinking of getting the S24 Ultra after my Z Fold 3 broke, but I sat down and thought really hard about my priorities in a new phone since I'm now a dad.
I just had my $2000 USD Z Fold 3 break down on me when I was planning to use it for another 2 years to break my 2-year phone cycle because of new financial responsibilities for my growing family, while I did really love Samsung top quality cameras, I wasn't really using my camera for work or for entertainment that much anymore since I rarely post photos on my socials. In the last 2 years with my Z Fold 3, I've used it more for gaming more than anything else(which probably broke the inner screen) and this increase in mobile gaming came as I got busier at work and had less time playing on my PC and simply take quick breaks playing a quick 20 minute MOBA or COD mobile game every 2-3 hours of working. Shelling out another $2000 USD on the S24 Ultra just doesn't make sense when I could get a much cheaper 700 USD and just use it for exactly playing a quick 20 minute MOBA or COD mobile game, and also for the 80W charging because I always forget to charge. ALSO also, the front-facing camera on my old Z Fold 3 also sucked a lot because of it being an under-display screen so the switch to the Redmagic 9s pro really wasn't much of a big deal, I really only use my front-facing camera for video calls with family and as we all know messenger video calls will make your video quality suck anyway regardless if you have an iPhone 15 pro max or a $200 USD potato phone.
I've never really liked dedicated handheld PCs like the Steam deck simply because they're quite bulky to carry around anyways, I can't play games on the settings I would play them on my PC, and the PC games I play on Steam are usually game that use keyboard and mouse like FPS, RTS, Sim racing, etc.; and quite frankly, in between work and family time, PC gaming for me nowadays seem to be too much of a commitment.
Gaming phones are popular in asia, where people spend hours playing mobile games and actually earn money through professional esports.
It’s not that popular in North America because to be honest, North American esports teams suck and they have less support.
Look at china, india, korea and south east Asian countries, mobile gaming is popular there so gaming phones are also popular there.
Gaming phones aren't popular in the west because we can actually afford consoles/PCs to play actual video games on.
@@anonanonymous9670 you guys can't pass up an opportunity to feel superior huh
@@skooskipotato3750 Stop making bad financial decisions like buying a gaming phone and you too could be superior
@@anonanonymous9670 you think we don’t have pc and consoles in Asia? 😂 how do you think MOBA games were played before it was introduced to mobile gaming? Do you know that the biggest gaming PC market and console market is in Asia?
Stop acting superior when you’re just ignorant.
Was thinking about making this exact same video. You pretty much nailed it. Moving on...
Austin Evans, the number one reason for me to buy the Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 6 (the other reason being alcohol and poor judgement because I didn't need a new phone 😂) love from Finland ❤❤
I'm planning on getting one, and the corner cuts you talked about don't bother me at all especially the camera as I almost never use the cameras on my galaxy s22 ultra. I primarily want this phone for remote play from my consoles and some mobile gaming. The only thing I do with my phone aside from using it as a phone or watching TH-cam.
And plan on using my backbone controller with it so the heat won't be much of an issue either.
8:23 - warzone mobile enters chat....
Man do I wish that game was available in my country
@@Niels_f2704 no you don't. It's trash and kills your battery with overheating
@@Niels_f2704what you mean it's not available in your country? warzone mobile released globally since March 21st 2024
Many games now overheat the phones...idk why they now update the gpu graphics😢
Honestly the type of gaming phone I really want is a modern take on something like the Xperia Play. Having a slide out controller (or another similar solution) instead of having to buy a seperate third party accessory would be absolutely awesome and would 100% get my money. (Currently using a Nacon MG-X Pro and I love it, but it is an extra thing to carry around and attach/detach whenever I wanna use it).
Remember that Sony gaming phone with the slide-out controls? Now THAT was a gaming phone. This is... Something else.
no no. its a gaming phone. thank you for your opinion though
The Sony Experia Play was hot, damp garbage that Sony wisely abandoned immediately.
Like, they gave birth to that baby straight into the dumpster as the truck was picking it up.
I've owned a red magic 9 pro for a number of months so far, it fits my needs very well as I wanted one very powerful for emulators (winlator). I think your comparison to the s24 ultra is an unfair comparison as it is a much more expensive phone, where I live its around twice the price. Though I do agree this phone is not for everyone.
The good: great performance, I love the aesthetic, battery life is great for my use, 2+ days for me, I find the cooling fan very neat. The build quality is superb
the bad: cameras are mediocre which wasn't important to me, software was bad at launch (buggy) now its serviceable but could use some polish, and I agree longer software support should be available.
I honestly barely use my phone for gaming I just wanted a powerful phone to mess with emulators and thought winlator was cool.
Good phone for some people not for the average user though, I would take an s24 ultra over it if they were similar price.
My mobile gaming rig is a GBA with an everdrive cart
I like gaming phones because they have better battery life than the competition, good specs, and a headphone jack.
That combination of features is sadly really hard to find in smartphones these days. There's a bunch of budget phones with good battery life and a headphone jack, but none of the normal flagship phones have a headphone jack and usually they sacrifice battery life to make the phone slimmer.
You don't need a gaming phone to play games, but the unique internal layout of the ROG Phone is something I appreciate on the rare occasion I play games on my phone. It never gets warm to the touch, because the SoC is in the center, away from where my hands hold it in landscape mode.
The poor support when it comes to updates is the norm for most brands that aren't Samsung, Google or Apple. It sucks, but as someone who always roots my phone and doesn't get OTA updates anyway, it's not too big of a deal, since the open source community is pretty good with providing more up-to-date ROMs long after the manufacturer stops providing them.
The camera is a bummer, I'll admit. The camera quality might be better than a mid range Samsung, but only just.
Hear me out... A regular/small size gaming phone, but for the same price it comes with a 7-10 inch portable display, typeC-typeC cable (30cm) to connect it, an OK stand and a charger that if plugged through the display it chargers the phone and powers the display.
lmao imagine if it came with 2 back touch buttons with a full controller emulation thingy for when a external display is connected. THAT would be super fcking cool
sounds useless
Asus tried something like this a like 10 years ago with the PadFone series. You would literally put your phone inside a tablet case and the tablet was working from the phone itself. It had a separate battery so the phone was just like a charged proccesor for it. The first one was meh, the second one was way better but not many people wanted it. Because It was a bit chunky and it wasn't really reliable. I wish i owned one tho. And i hope brands will try again
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that just an Android Tablet?
Is it because it's not a GaMiNg tablet that your brain broke?
Before I watch this all the way I appreciate greatly that there's a phone out there for people who couldn't care less about having a social media camera and instead want pay less than a flagship and get better actual performance. Plus on a personal note, as a Pokemon Go player, the huge battery and built in cooling system makes me really excited also as someone who's getting really bored and tired of the lack of anything exciting in any of the regular flagships beyond the honestly ridiculous camera upgrades that absolutely no one in everyday use will ever notice, phones like this really speak to me
Edit: after watching this I wanna say I can't remember the last time I ever used my front faced camera also idk if it's just me but it feels like Austin went into this with his opinion already decided and it didn't matter what he saw. Again I'll say not everyone cares about having a top of the line camera or a name brand phone but having unique phones that stand out from the crowd that all just have the same colored same looking plain bricks everywhere and this feels honestly perfect. I hope Redmagic keeps making phones and keeps working to innovate and make themselves more unique
1:23Austin is terrible at unboxing😂😂😂
I have the $650 version and I can confidently says it my favorite phone Ive ever owned. Also the 2nd cheapest, for the price I can overlook any flaws. Also you basically have full control over the power profiles so if you dont want it in full power mode dont select that option. Its a non issue if you gave it in a joystick or controller
I want mora.....
i have a "old" 9Pro (basically same phone) for almost a year now and it is great...stupid fast, actually good rear cameras for a gaming phone, great battery life and display out from typeC is sick. I'm using that to connect it to my tv/monitor and play some emulators with Xbox (BT) controller :) definitely buying 10Pro next year ;)
Most company are removing so many hardware features that at this point if company like asus, LG can come back to the smartphone market again if they can create phone with flagship chip and a good camera with SD card and charging brick on the box
asus never left the market what are you talking about?
@@imperialdra-mon5907 ASUS left the smartphone market in 2023, leaving only ROG (a separate, wholly-owned subsidiary of ASUStek... the parent company of ASUS) branded devices.
ASUS-branded phones (Zenphones) exited the market in 2023.
The easiest analogy is that VW AG owns both VW and Audi, with Audi owning Lamborghini and others.
If VW AG announced the discontinuation of Lamborghini, you wouldn't be claiming that it's false because VW and Audi still make cars.
That sounds like a good plan. I spread my bonus across a few casino games, tried a bit of roulette and blackjack
I've never commented this early on a video
FR it showed up in my reccomended uploaded 5 seconds ago
SAME
2:43 all I could think was "And you may find yourself" Once in a Lifetime talking heads video
Is $900 even expensive for a phone? Aren't flagships over a grand these days?
I honestly don't know because I only buy used phones a few generations old lol.
Now, i have a Z Fold 5... and I understand where Austin was coming from viewing this as just a "gaming phone", but there were certain details he brushed over in comparison to a Flagship phone. Less guaranteed OS updates? Well every Samsung OS update I've gotten has always just resulted in more bloatware shoe horned into the OS kernel. I don't need Samsung "Facebook". Yet every baked in useless GOOGLE knoxx-off can't be un-installed because they are "intergrated" into it, or core protected by knoxx.
I mean hell. Name a phone in the last 15 years that has survived more than 3. Give me a phone that over 2 years promises a single OS update.