Brian is right. The upcoming tide of conservatives mostly from Gen-Z and molded by Trump memes- they don't like Israel or even capitalism that much, in fact they think the Trump movement has been hijacked by Israeli and big business hyper-capitalist interests who compromised the 'original trump message' to steer the administration into serving Israel and Saudia Arabia in foreign policy instead of isolationism and huge businesses in domestic policy instead of white working class interests. They see that as the great betrayal and blame people on the right they hate like Dan Crenshaw, Ben Shapiro, and Charlie Kirk more so than Trump. Nick Fuentes, Mike Enoch, even Tucker Carlson, and all the new conservatives think this way. It's why the new socialist left's arguments don't work against them and Gen Z democratic socialists are extremely susceptible to their message, they actually agree on more than either agrees with like neoliberals. Both groups are in open war with the moderate wings of their party and won't settle for anything less than a full takeover of the party. In my mind this whole dynamic started with the exodus of Bernie Sanders supporters to Trump who believed Hillary was part of a big business conspiracy, immigration is massively hurting and taking jobs that need to be protected, get out of the middle east, and global trade was bad and unfair.
Brian Kirz yeah i guess you are right. Lots more hate these days. All these white guys want to be victims so bad. They would LOVE to hold a “white lives matter” sign
And people still think Jews can be criticized. When people go into a frenzy because you point out a simple fact, you know there's something. Look up USS Liberty to see why Israel is our greatest ally
@@xunqianbaidu6917 no, people get into a frezny because they've been brainwashed to react that way whenever, god forbid, somebody says something bad about our harmless jews
Even in a debate with an outright White Nationalist, Destiny can't help himself by invoking his debates against lefties. "You remind me of the lefties I debate who I disagreed with over a completely different thing. You guys are so similar!" He would do the same thing against the lefties too with "Oh my you're just as bad as Nick Fuentes!"
@@giovanniruffinoni4832 he's talking about this one episode of the killstream where nick fuentes joined th-cam.com/video/PULTP-m9nYw/w-d-xo.html it's fucking hilarious
@@ABC-ej1sd but Nazi already included socialist in the name I'm confused are nazbols closer to commies or just middling between socialism and communism?
@@lordcanti4199 absolutely true, and why destiny should honestly stop debating youtube frogs, they never are not educated enough to not resort to some bullshit argument they regurgitate from /pol/
@@lordcanti4199 I agree because now I feel like ive heard it all. Its all the same ideas, same talking points, same bullshit. But so many white men get pulled in by it still that i see the importance of this stuff
James Watson Not a Destiny fan exactly, I watch his debates quite a bit but while I agree with him on many things I can’t stand him personally. I watch America First more but I disagree with Nick on a fair few things like homosexuality, being religious and the 19th Amendment but I like his charisma.
James Watson I probably wouldn’t go so far as to say sociopath but he’s a vicious bastard and the type to justify anything that favors him. The guy moved to LA and left his young kid in Nebraska so he could collaborate with streamers even though makes 300k+ a year. Basically stepped out of his son’s life. Yeah I would agree with that divide - LGBT people should be treated with respect on a personal level but as a political movement and force it’s expressions should be scrutinized. Given a fair shake and all but definitely scrutinized. Yeah I would agree on trans kids and the drag queen stuff. The drag queen stuff is especially egregious - you could argue gender dysmorphia is a real issue but drag is an art form based around explicit sexual references, glamor, extravagance, sexuality, etc. that’s inappropriate for children
"Lets ignore studies" Mike Enoch: _"Ok, did you see this statistic made by this study over here?"_ "Let us talk about immigration" Mike Enoch: _"Ok, did you know that jewish conspiricies caused total surveillance of all people?"_ Ay lmao
@@SuperUnbeliever WAT.jpg @madger, it's because he's trying to position a strawman to throw a gotcha, so there's not even a point addressing it. That's how they feel... super, let's move on to the actual discussion.
The only reason he framed it like that is because of how insanely obstinate people are when it comes to granting the premise that white people have valid group self interest. When you're dealing with an opponent who refuses to acknowledge the blatant anti-white trends and attitudes in society, you have to regress the conversation to absurd levels of hypothetical reasoning and abstract principles and "suppose if you would that it was possibly the case that black ghettos might in some instances be an unwelcoming environment for white people." It's like bruh... We saw the same thing back in the sargon spencer anglin debates where the morality of the logistics of achieving the ethnostate was focused on to avoid addressing the validity of the root motivations and the accompanying morality thereof, even in universal terms. "Sargon, can you grant the premise that homogeneity can be a desirable thing?" Sargn: "it doesn't matter because you'd have to kill people to get it!!" Likewise here mike seemed to be preempting that sort of broad, weasely dismissal by couching white self interest in something that can't logically be denied to them since feeling is "illogical" to begin with. It's not flawed reasoning on mike's part, it's a form of desperation after constantly getting zero good will from his opponents for the sake of moving the discussion forward. It's like when someone sees the logic you're attempting to lay out via socratic method so they frantically deny even the most self-evident starting premises to avoid engaging with the whole sequence.
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He was basically forced into it. Enoch was like, well it's not a conspiracy, I'm just correct on this topic. If Destiny backed out at that moment, it would've seemed like Destiny lost by default.
People like this guy are more tolerable than Jontron if for no other reason than he's just fucking honest about what he is. Destiny doesn't have to debate the subtext the whole time while his opponent tries to weasel out of every corner. Jontron still has an army of defenders to this day because he just implied that Destiny "tricked" him while it was blatantly obvious to anyone that wasn't his fan that he was clearly flirting with white nationalist/alt right ideas.
@@ataridc and then you point out to them he followed white nationalist Twitter accounts until the middle of 2018 and they still just shrug it off. It's like trying to tell Pewdiepie fans that Felix is a piece of shit that, while he may not be actively cultivating a WN fanbase, is doing absolutely nothing to distance himself from them because he cares more about money and being the most subscribed to youtuber than even the slightest level of integrity
Guiuu Shurt and regardless of that, he still has 100 mil subs, and has made more money in 10 years than you will before you die. He’s on top, he’s got the crown. That’s the guys point. No matter how much you bitch and scream, he wins in the end. I’m a lib dem egalitarian that often argues against WN, Altrighties, and anti sjws. I’ve never even REMOTELY been any kind of pilled by Felix, nor have I picked up on any dog whistles. If you think pdp has any kind of roll in leading people down the alt right pipe line, you’re a fucking idiot. If meme review is in your sights instead of nick Fuentes or sargan of Akkad, you’re doing just as much of a disservice to progression as they are. He’s not a grifter, I don’t even think he’s alt right, or even really right at all. If the bar for being an alt right WN nazi is hosting sen bhapiro on a meme video, and saying nigger while playing a video game, then 85% of the fucking planet is a god damn white nationalist nazi grifter.
@Chris Bartolini That's a good point. It's kind of a conservative Christian thing. Some of them even think it has something to do with biblical prophecy.
I'll tell you what, as a British person. It's a little disheartening that one of the only thing they could agree on was that our non-breakfast food is horrible ;.;
Revolutionary Communist You’re thinking of JF and Andy Warski’s Bloodsports podcast series, which is in fact dead. Ralph Retort’s Kill Stream is very much still a thing, even after getting kicked off TH-cam.
@Revolutionary Communist Huh JF and Andy never ran the Killstream. Apart from them being guests on each others shows and that they shared the same kind of internet sphere, with overlap when it came to their content.
@Huh? at the rate they're building the wall it will take more than the next 10 presidencies to finish it. There are thousands of miles to cover and only 93~ have been covered so far... in 2 years... out of THOUSANDS of miles.
@Jay Jay they dont know that the construction there was actually maintenance and repair builds. Was already approved and had nothing to do with trump. =/
They ‘protect’ jobs for illegals 😂 the company should be fined and made an example of; the nation should train its own people to fill in positions not cheaply export them whilst undermining the native population and wage growth.
Anyone in the working class would be against mass immigration. It is one of the biggest factors in the declining value of labor. I run a construction and janitorial business. Very hard to compete with Sanjeet and his van full of visa students and family members that will do jobs for 1/3 of my price for cash by breaking labor laws and hiding from taxes.
@@andrewcox5873 not sure how being Serbian precludes someone for advocating for white interests in the US. And the ex-wife thing has been done to death. He married this woman many years ago, his politics shifted over time, they eventually parted ways.
@@jakerobert3118 you dont see how being non-white comes into conflict with advocating for an all-white country? Were you dropped on your head as a child? I'd love to hear how he feels about people who are 25% african
@@dl4523 I never said I do, we are now happy to call our self racists , becasue discussing or seeing differences in races makes us racist by your terms but we don't really hate people becuase they are another race.
@@WarningBFG-isHiring He literally has a podcast called The Daily Shoah. He sells 14/88 merch. He's not "hiding" anything but he's not a "Nazi" either. He's for sure a pseudo-fascist though. I think it's similar to milk-toast socialists taking on tankie iconography even though when you look at their actual positions they're not actually tankies.
@@WarningBFG-isHiring I'm not a Nazi which is why I can say that Mike isn't a Nazi. I don't even like Mike, he's full of himself and spends too much time circle jerking on his own website to actually understand reality. His co-host, Eric Striker, is actually a Nazi. They're both stupid.
@@blackopsy9 Do you understand that the name of the podcast aims to make fun of people like you who cry about things like this? As in: Jews think there’s another shoah every day. In this instance that is your tears about the podcast name.
The Germans ☠️⛽ 11,000,000x ppl, bruh... Oh wait, that whole 11mil death toll came out of a call where Simon Wiesenthal pulled that number right out of his stechy, swampy bunghole because he wanted the non-Chosen to have SOME chips on the table to keep them invested, but definitely never to overshadow the 6 million (which was a number they were also coincidentally using for donations during WWI🤔). Isn't it surreal that you can just pull a 5mil death-toll out of thin air and have it be accepted by mainstream academia for decades, well, at least until Israel did a lolrug-pull and Jacquees the non-existent (supposedly largely Ukrainian population) of this imagined 5mil, and have the chutzpah to blame them for their "collaboration." 😂
Happens a lot of the time, many of these authoritarian idiots don't really believe in anything or understand the world on an academic level. Authoritarianism appeals to the powerful and the stupid, left vs right doesn't really matter.
@@jeremias-serus There are English words that are no longer pronounced how they use to be, there are words that are written literally the same that are pronounced completely differently. There is NO STANDARD when it comes to the English language. Another example would be "café" actually being written as "cafe" despite being pronounced as the former. Spelling =/= sound when it comes to English, unlike languages like Spanish, Chinese, etc. (Your comment isn't actually visible but I got the notification anyway)
@@ataridc Wait so communist or socialist ideas are not harmful? He clearly is very against tankies in the left and they are a lot more prevalent than nazis. I am not saying right wing ideas are not harmful or less harmful, but saying that lefty ideas are harmless is ridiculous.
>Watching Destiny ramble in an adderall induced state of insanity was very cringe. Timestamp please? He always talks fast, pretty sure he didn't ramble. >On the other side Enoch looked asleep and talked extra slow lol He was screaming over Destiny for the first hour.
@MARK PEARSON Perhaps you just have an inability to comprehend people talking quickly, I used to speak that fast and had to train myself to speak slower for colleagues/friends whose 2nd language is english. Try using the 0.75 speed button. Also, "Enoch talks slow and might of had to raise his tone of voice to talk over the rabid weisel" is incredibly disingenuous, watch the video again and watch how many times Destiny puts his head in his hands because Enoch states a point, Destiny tries to provide a retort and Enoch shouts over him...
@MARK PEARSON Interrupting someone politely and just talking over them are two completely different things. I'm not a fan of either of them, I try to watch destiny debates on youtube when I can because he holds a lot of the same viewpoints as me, and I want to hear his and the opposing arguments, which are generally well thought through and articulated. Yeah, he lost to Metokur. OK. That was 3 years ago. What's your point? That he loses every debate? What did you make of the JLP one, did he lose that too? Also, re-reading this comment chain, and noticing your name in several other threads just spouting insults is pretty depressing, you continue to watch Destiny videos even though you have a clear distaste for him. You seem to just go for insults rather than actually articulate your reason/s, heres your chance.
>All I want is a meritocracy where theres no laws forcing unqualified people into positions they didnt earn and an end to immigration. That exists, and there are laws enforcing it . There are racist cunts out there in positions of power that exclude based on race alone, and there are insane lefties who want to siphon up anyone they think can be their token, both have no place in positions of power imo. >and an end to immigration To me, that's nuts. Everywhere needs immigration/emigration, MERIT based immigration I agree with, illegal immigration hurts everyone, but legal immigration needs to be a thing. It's addressed in the video above, agriculture industry needs even seasonal workers to function. Obama was a 2nd generation immigrant, Trump married 2 of them... Basically everybody is an immigrant in terms of America. (in relation to this video, Mikes saying he doesn't want white people to be drinking shampoo like on Indian reservations is fucking insane) >Dems brag that whites will be a minority by 2040 and that will not improve any aspect of the country I have NEVER seen someone say this is a good thing. And while I agree that it will not improve anything, I fail to see how it will be a detriment. >I'd prefer everyone be judged by the content of their character. Same, however, you haven't given a reason for throwing insults and attempting to sow dissent.. if it's just funny to you, that's a reason.
@MARK PEARSON To the Donald Trump/Republican point, I think there are a few dozen more issues in that area than just race. Whether they impeach Trump or not will be indicitave of the next 20 years of the Republicans. No matter which way you look at it, he fucked up, and Rs stood by and watched the clusterfuck unfold. I'd be interested if you have a link to the NYT articles/CNN clip, as 'CNN said' is a bit of a dubious statement, could have been their employee or a talking head. And I don't have an NYT subscription. Would you care to address ANY of the other points raised? Last few in particular?
@@stg4498 Exactly. White privilege is more of a conspiracy theory than the JQ, because the white nepotism seems to so elusive and opaque that it can't be observed or measured anywhere.
@@yes8515 R u stupid www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/09/28/black-and-hispanic-families-are-making-more-money-but-they-still-lag-far-behind-whites/
I know it’s a small point to harp on, but from based on 40:30 - 43:00 (specifically when I realized this to be a good question) I’d be curious to hear if Mike thinks ethnicity and immigrant are synonyms. Hypothetically if all of the Caucasian’s from UK came and caused the same immigration concerns would he still have a problem?
Senko S. Seems like cognitive dissonance on his part then. If all immigrants are a problem, then it seems to logically follow you’d be for AMERICAN interests. However, that’s obviously not the case.
Senko S. Sure and my rebuttal to that would be it seems more convincing that America was and is more of an idea and culture than an ethnicity. Now obviously that’s a very fundamental idea so it’s highly likely where I would agree to disagree with a racist idea and make it clear that no matter what ethnicity is doing it it’s just as racist. That said there is a difference between taking pride in an ethnic ancestry (which I think for the most part is fine) and excluding an ethnic group from something.
Destiny needs to see how disabled huwites are treated in the social services departments for aid. We get DENIED benefits by newcomers who have taken over the jobs there.
@Dalavar Redclaw No, I don’t have proof that that was their reasoning, and they are very careful to discriminate in a way that they cannot be held accountable. If you’ve ever been the target of such discrimination, then you would know how easy it is to tell what is going on. Wish I recorded all the interactions with them - as that would have at least shown that they were acting as unprofessional as it gets, harassing me and making a big show to try to humiliate me for no actual reason in a lobby full of people listening and watching, and denying my benefits without an actual reason. I tried going over their heads and filing a complaint with the main corporate office, but it became clear real quick that they weren’t going to give a shit either. They kept saying someone would call me back to go over my case, but know one did. The only time of the few attempts I made to file a complaint that they actually had someone call me back was having the SAME EXACT head case worker whom I had dealt with who was the one who denied me my benefits call me! It was awful. It seemed pretty clear that it is an issue that is being implemented across the board against people who look like me.
Dalavar Redclaw Nope, I absolutely qualified. Been qualifying and getting benefits for years prior. Nothing changed financially on my end, nor on their end with policy. You’re wrong.
@Dalavar Redclaw Nope, not making anything up. I’ve told the pertinent details (not going to bother writing an essay regarding every single detail, because that would take ages, but I wrote all the key points that are necessary to convey, and I didn’t leave out something that would change the overall narrative in any way whatsoever. Do you often go around calling people liars for no good reason? Just curious if you are an ass on the daily, or if you’re anti-white, or what. What I meant by “no proof,” is that I have no audio/video recordings or phone numbers of witnesses that saw what took place. But if anyone with a half of a brain and a decent moral compass that works in the government were to review my case though, they would no doubt come to the appropriate conclusion that this had to have been discrimination, from multiple workers there too. The person in charge of handling my case was the head case-worker in the department, meaning she was supposed to be the most experienced, knowledgeable, and no one was above her head that she answered to (her boss would be at the main corporate office instead). She was the TOP DOG, and yet, she was so inept that she refused to return my important phone calls, make any adjustments of all her litany of “mistakes” that I pointed out (which I believe were intentional because no one with her experience should have made all the _really pathetic inexcusable giant mistakes_ she made), intentionally refused to use medical deductions that have always been used in the past for my case and are supposed to be used (nothing changed in the government policy), and even SENT BACK all the copies of documents I gave her that are needed to figure out exactly how much I qualify for in benefits, saying that they were not going to be used. I couldn’t believe it. She was clearly not wanting the copies to remain in my file there, because if they were, then anyone that reviewed my case would question her immediately as to why she didn’t appropriately use those documents to give me the benefits they prove I deserve. And that was just the issues I had with ONE person at the office. There was multiple workers that acted so unconscionably nasty to me there that I went home in tears three days in a row from that place trying to get my shit taken care of. The fact that you have a hard time believing that this is going on to people in this day in age and rudely call people who talk about their experiences with it “liars,” shows you have a screw loose and moral compass issue.
@Dalavar Redclaw You’re an absolute idiot. When all else fails, victim-blame, right?! I was actually _overly polite, as I ALWAYS AM WITH GOVERNMENT WORKERS._ I was not raised by wolves and I have an lQ of 122. I was a working professional before becoming disabled and know damn well how to treat others professionally! They have all the power in the world over my basic survival - I would have to be brain dead to not be extremely professional and polite! You weren’t even there, you total moron. I even gave my sincere condolences to the bitch that ended up not giving me my owed benefits when she told me she had to take a call because her sister had to be hospitalized that morning, and when I left that appointment with her, I gave my best wishes for her sister to have a speedy recovery. These people did NOT return my professionalism and courtesy! Even as something as basic as my using the community copy machine that in the lobby meant for the public to use to copy documents for their cases was treated with them accusing me of using it inappropriately without any cause or reasoning! Every time someone else has to make a quick copy I let them use it and I would continue working on my paperwork after, because I am a very polite and reasonable person who didn’t want to hold them back since I had a lot of documents to copy for my case and they only had a couple of copies to make. These workers were so f’ing rude that they would even turn off the copy machine while I was using it, saying no case should require someone to make as many copies as I was making WHEN NONE OF THESE FRONT DESK WORKERS EVEN KNEW MY CASE, NOR WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR SOMEONE WHO IS MEDICALLY DISABLED (people getting food stamps just because their income is low from a low salary at their job do not need to show medical deductions like a disabled person who is getting higher income from social security but has a shitload of medical expenses that leave them with little to no disposable income for all their other necessities/bills). I have spoken with tons of other whites in similar situations - I am not alone in facing this rampant discrimination. These Hizpaniks (SIC) that have taken over these agencies due toAffirmativeActi0n here in So Cal do NOT like us. Perhaps you are ignorant of the Reconquista ideology that is strongly supported here by them, but others don’t live under a rock!
@Dalavar Redclaw Facade?? LOL! I have no need to treat you respectfully - you don’t deserve it for the way in which you have presented yourself here - you deserve the name calling (as do the people I dealt with in that office - but I didn’t show an ounce of attitude or say name calling to their faces, or show any “chip on my shoulder” - like I said I was totally 100% professional there), and you have no power over my survival like those racists are, so why would I treat you with respect when you haven’t shown me any?? I still get social services, moron. I get section 8, and charity help for my utilities. And I’m not even a man, idiot. Nice job at being a stupid sexist though, showing just how your anti-white male you are, and assuming that only men use TH-cam. Obviously I am not an “underachiever,” as I told you I had a successful professional career before becoming disabled, and thus have always known how to act professionally and courteously with others in business matters. I also was always on the Honor’s/Dean’s list for the entirety of my education, putting myself through college, and got my dream job straight away upon graduating university. I really must be some “underachiever!” 😂 The fact you are so blind as to see what is going on with the culture of the people who have replaced why.te folks in these jobs and their attitude they have towards why.tes with the Reconquista narrative rampant here in So California (do you even live here???) shows just how much you have your head in the sand and have no clue as to just how prevalent anti-why.te raycism is in America. By the by - trying to “provoke” me? What are you 15?? ᴬˡˡ ˢᵖᵉˡˡⁱⁿᵍ & grammar ᵉʳʳᵒʳˢ ᵃʳᵉ ⁱⁿᵗᵉⁿᵗⁱᵒⁿᵃˡ ᵗᵒ ᵃᵛᵒⁱᵈ ᵁᵗᵒᵒᵇ ᶜᵉⁿˢᵒʳˢʰⁱᵖ.
I found this to be actually interesting to see how enoch had to weasel around the point he knew were wrong. Watch hasan or Seder if you want to watch someone scream about how wrong racism is for 3 hours. It really gets old man.
I’ve been following Destiny for a year and been following online politics for longer. I swear to God, I still do not understand where antisemitism comes from. It makes absolutely no sense to me lol
@@Kyle_Schaff its nazism lol. it makes perfect sense. "cultural marxism" the nazis were using this trope too generational wealth put a significant proportion of jews into positions of financial power, so they use that to blame them for everything
"generational wealth" I think you mean ethnic cartel. Either way the big problem for you people is that you have no arguments, all you can do is handwave the criticisms and say "uhm ur just blaming them for everything" and as soon as it gets into specifics you have to back away, just like Destiny did in this debate.
"Women don't wanna work!" Right. They just want to be mothers. That's not like work at all. Not because raising children is easy or anything. It's just because it's for labor for your own family and not a boss. Men should be encouraged to work for strangers while women should be restricted to working for their relatives. My head's starting to hurt.
1:07:48: "Blacks and whites got along better before the Civil Rights Movement." Me: So we just volunteered to sit in the back of the bus, drink from nasty water fountains and have segregated whatever the fuck?
Destiny backed himself into a bad corner. He had to argue that the USA is some great democracy and all of these changes were simply the will of the people, and if we don't like something we can just vote to have it changed. He had to literally argue that big money interests doesn't play a role in our government lol. In reality a roomful of the wealthiest people in the USA donate enormous sums to NGOs. These organizations then represent their donors interests 24/7, by applying pressure against those who are in the way of their agenda. For example, if a proffesor at an ivy league college becomes an effective pro Palestinian activist he will be attacked relentlessly by seemingly all sides. Organizations such as AIPAC, ADL, and the SPLC will write hit pieces, which other journalists pick up on and also write about. These NGOs will then make countless phone calls to the professors hire ups with accusations of anti-semitism, and threatening to withdraw funding from their alumni. The SPLC literally blew up multiple pro Palestinian lobbies and were labeled a terrorist organization by the FBI. Violence is the last resort and will happen if Soft power does not work. The zionists behave like mobsters because many of the early founders of Zionist organizations in the USA were literal mobsters. Looks up Edgar Bronfman of Seagrams liquor during the bootleg era. He and his dynasty went on to create many powerful institutions. Charles Bronfman founded MEGA Group (epstein), and The Federalsists society to name a few. Every supreme court nominee for the past half centiry have neen Federalist society judges. When the supreme court has the final say, and all of its members belong to an insane click of zionist supremacists, tbis gives these people enourmou power. Charles Bronfman was head of the world Jewish congress, sat on the federal reserve, and was head of the IMF. Probably the single most influential person of the 20th century. "The super mob" by Robert Ruseeau is a great book on thos topic.
Dude just doesn't understand that "American" isn't synonymous with "White". All his arguments crumble to ash if you were to ask, "what does an American look like?" Just because Sweden is for the Swedish and Japan is for the Japanese, doesn't mean those nationalities are race-locked and the US is explicitly set up for cultural diversity (no official language, religion, etc). We've just been really bad at fulfilling our contract until the late 20th century.
@F.W. what are "race problems"? Like how Muslim rule brought Spain out of the dark ages? How is race different in Europe? I don't know enough to know if they are "exactly the same" but I know enough to be skeptical.
Cuban isn’t an ethnicity, calling yourself half Cuban is about as meaningless as calling oneself a Brazilian, both can racially range from the purest Spaniard to the purest Indio and everything in between.
I was gonna say the same thing lol. Like, I'm Uruguayan (which is a country that is demographically 88%-95% European) but I'm mixed: half-Indigenous + African, and half-white. Just saying the name of the country of origin doesn't mean shit lmao
It's very extremely rare for any latin american to be 100% of anything. there is a general average admixture that most of people in those countries are, for places like cuba and the dominican republic for example, that mixture tends to be black + spanish, but can also be native + spanish for places like mexico and honduras, that mixture tends to be native + spanish. There is a distinctive mixture and a distinctive look applicable to latin americans that means we can classify them as a race at this point, you know a latino when you see when, that proves already that you're just arguing to argue. also, latin americans LOVE to link race with skin color and skin color alone, the pale guys you know that you consider white are immediately identifiable as latino in white countries
Holy fuck. As a Japanese person, listening to Mike mischaracterize the reason why Japan's birth rate is so low and why people aren't getting out was fucking infuriating.
@@sepulcher8263 you can find a lot with a simple google search since there is way too much to be able to convey it in a youtube reply chain. But from what I gathered over time its usually a problem with the economy. A lot of working hours with relatively bad pay. Forcing usually men into positions where they don't even consider having a partner let alone a family since they don't have stable jobs that will last them till retirement. Most of the money they earn goes right back into rent, college loans, taxes leaving them with little money to do anything else. Then there are also social, political and cultural issues mixing in with that and you have this mess. I also once read that the main "demand" before building a family around the world is financial stability. In japan that core aspect is fundamentally broken at the moment
@@blacksuitedsonic that doesn't explain why affluent people don't have children. By that logic making people very wealth will produce the opposite outcome, I'm not contradicting you I'm just pointing out a weird point.
2:25:20 lol Destiny misses the forest for the trees so frequently, you have to wonder if it's intentional. Of course suddenly forcing a drastically different, foreign system of government and laws upon a nation will have large repercussions. It's part of the reason why when the US and the West in general tries artificially enacting liberal, democratic constructs in places like Africa or the Middle East, why these things tend to be very unstable and fall apart without constant military oversight. Destiny trying to hone in on a single law that he thinks would "prevent men from approaching women" is such a useless exercise, it's astonishing. Nobody here is a Japanese man in the 1950s - we can't expect their norms and practices to conform to what Destiny thinks is normal. And moreso, as I said at the very top, this is missing the big picture. It is not any single law, it is the cumulative effect of the massive societal and legal change which was forced on Japan by the US occupation in the decades following WWII. All these arrogant, flippant, cocky little wannabe antifa in this comment section think they're so smart for tuning out the evil racists, that they can't stop and seriously consider the points being made for two seconds. Absolutely pathetic audience.
@@diegorincon4673 pretty sure I explained what I meant in the same comment. Destiny critiques people for allegedly using a single thing to explain multiple complex phenomena, because he has trouble with abstract thinking. To dumb it down... No single thing explains everything, but a single thing can affect multiple other things to varying degrees, and when you're talking about these broad ideas and large factors - such as race, religion, etc - it's insanely reductive and counterproductive to try and press someone for one singular example which explains everything. With Japan, of course there's no single law. It's the totality of the foreign influence and pressure. Destiny gets into the weeds on every little thing because that's his tactic, is endless deconstruction of the opposing narrative until the small peices fit his worldview. When a small piece comes up that directly counters his worldview, eg an article, a study, a tweet, he rationalizes it away and dismisses it as not being representative or even indicative of the larger picture. He pushes for specific examples of larger issues, then attacks the specific examples for being exactly that - specific. He refuses to engage with the totality of the evidence, it's just endless deconstruction. Like I said, he misses the forest for the trees.
Eric Coffey heh, you totally pwned that skrub. I would first like to apologize to my parents, they raised me to be better than this, but I have failed them.
Destiny is wrong about the judicial branch. It does, in practice and perhaps even in theory, get the final say. Judicial review permits the court to review legislation with respect to its constitutionality, where the court decides what is constitutional, often employing liberal forms of interpretation to strain the meaning of the text.
Nothing is more amusing than Nazis pretending as though they have some sort of social leverage that lets them credibly insult people in any social context for not being Nazis. Like, dude, this is the equivalent of a Flat-Earther saying "heh, imagine being a fucking GLOBE-HEAD."
Butter Brickle Hes your typical white neo liberal. The biggest issue with white people is outwardly preferenced liberals from the perspective of “white nationalism”
@Matt White what argument of his is dumb and why? you should email him and organize to talk about it on stream, should be easy to make him look like an idiot if he's so dumb. contact@destiny.gg
I work with a guy who grew up in the Soviet Union. I hear all about how Alexandria Ocasio Cortez is going to put people in work camps and that lefties are secret tankies.
James Downs cant wait to build concrete busts of marx, lenin, stalin, and bernie in the AOC work camps after eating imitation rat for breakfast because i wanted single payer healthcare and slightly higher taxes on billionaires
lol gauge destiny's reactions to what Mike says Mike says that white people have the right to maintain their dominance over the USA and retain an ethnic majority and he doesn't care, remains calm. Then Mike says Israel has a disproportionate impact on US foreign policy and then destiny starts freaking out lol. What is your deal with Israel lol.
Id really like to know where Destiny gets his magic polling data that says whites “don’t care” about becoming a minority... and would really like to figure out how that poll was done and specifically with who
@@arabiannights5301 Although I don't have any that would show either, I would consider the 2016 Trump election as a weighing argument for the advocacy that whites do in fact care about remaining a majority, mostly due to Trumps stances on immigration at the time
@@The_Taste_Buds Disagreed, for a few reasons: 1. Trump wasn't voted for in 2016 only by whites, and definitely not in 2020. 2. There are significantly more important and more common reasons to desire immigration restriction than those of racial majority. This is further proven by the fact that Trump was widely considered, even by his critics, to be an economic president. 3. Trump's perceived anti-establishment attitudes were far more frequently cited by 99% of his supporters than his tentative racial rhetoric.
@@arabiannights5301 ya whatever dude, believe what you want to believe, I'm certain that any racial majority from any ethno-state would care significantly about becoming a minority. Word it however you want, put as many fancy words you can find even, I don't believe your garbage for a second...
Destiny clearly never eaten good british food. From being invaded by the french, germans, romans and dutch, to going on to colonize 3/4s of the world, Britain has been a melting pot for food since before US was even discovered, we have some of the best forein culture food in the world here. Stop taking advice on where to eat from Sliker aight Destiny?
@@pietzsche yet this rascist guy debating Stephen doesn't seem to realize that Europe the west would be nothing without Asian goods Tea silk porcelain Spices cotton textiles
Fun fact (I believe it's a fact at least, as I recall reading it from an interview with her), Yoko Kanno toured America before creating the music for Cowboy Bebop so she could better understand it and write for it.
"Economically Progressive Anti-Degenerate", short for "I believe the the State should to put it's finger in every single situation that goes against my interests and beliefs".
So the state shouldn’t step in when it comes to degeneracy but it should step in to diversify neighborhoods and crack down on racism? Can you see the problem with having hypocritical views?
poisonsquid37 No, because the argument is that those things harm society as a whole. Whereas “degeneracy” (aka just things I don’t like as an individual) do not, at least generally.
32:20 I'm losing my mind over the fact that the guy unironically bringing in the Jewish Question and explaining it with "that's just what it is" is asking for evidence
Destiny wasn't ready for the Jewish question in this debate.
Josh Price no one ever is lol
@@kahlizzle7643 THEY like to keep it that.
Obviously Enoch has researched more (or more like look for confirmation bias) about the topic.
Vaush is always ready but Destiny is to much of a pussy to debate him
@@ghjk588 He was spamming the comments about his big brain
Destiny brought back the good old days in this debate
Look at that smile when the JQ came, little guy is having fun
He was so happy, and I was happy for him.
Mike dun luh black peepo
@@Gnolomweb real alpha male straight from nebraska
@@Gnolomweb but he said that he loves black people
Wow very rarely do i hear someone say i am “socially conservative and fiscally liberal” its usually reversed
Traversy Media Nazbols, basically the worst political stance I’ve ever seen
I literally thought the same thing. Like, I don't think I've ever come across someone else who's socially conservative and economically progressive
You’re going to hear it a lot more often these days
Brian is right. The upcoming tide of conservatives mostly from Gen-Z and molded by Trump memes- they don't like Israel or even capitalism that much, in fact they think the Trump movement has been hijacked by Israeli and big business hyper-capitalist interests who compromised the 'original trump message' to steer the administration into serving Israel and Saudia Arabia in foreign policy instead of isolationism and huge businesses in domestic policy instead of white working class interests. They see that as the great betrayal and blame people on the right they hate like Dan Crenshaw, Ben Shapiro, and Charlie Kirk more so than Trump.
Nick Fuentes, Mike Enoch, even Tucker Carlson, and all the new conservatives think this way. It's why the new socialist left's arguments don't work against them and Gen Z democratic socialists are extremely susceptible to their message, they actually agree on more than either agrees with like neoliberals. Both groups are in open war with the moderate wings of their party and won't settle for anything less than a full takeover of the party. In my mind this whole dynamic started with the exodus of Bernie Sanders supporters to Trump who believed Hillary was part of a big business conspiracy, immigration is massively hurting and taking jobs that need to be protected, get out of the middle east, and global trade was bad and unfair.
Brian Kirz yeah i guess you are right. Lots more hate these days. All these white guys want to be victims so bad. They would LOVE to hold a “white lives matter” sign
Destiny drinks shampoo at an Indian reservation in this debate
I don’t get the joke.
I've spent a good amount of time on reservations. We drank whiskey and smoked cheap sennecas. It was dope.
He refused to go off the reservation like his guest did @@gustercc
Destiny got oppressed in this debate.
Shouted over, sure.
@@MrGrifft Destiny got wrecked on most points outside of the stupid Democracy shit that Enoch was talking about.
@@DontDrinkthatstuff You're replying to a comment from over a year ago. I couldn't give less of a fuck.
@@DontDrinkthatstuff lol eat shit alt-right fuck.
@@xxmemestar69xx82 Spoken like a true pussy.
19:25
"Well how many of them were Jews"
*Stream literally erupts*
Chat is filled with idiots not even listening to the main points. Dumbasses entertained by trigger words.
And people still think Jews can be criticized. When people go into a frenzy because you point out a simple fact, you know there's something.
Look up USS Liberty to see why Israel is our greatest ally
the master imagine advocating for being politically wrong
@@xunqianbaidu6917 no, people get into a frezny because they've been brainwashed to react that way whenever, god forbid, somebody says something bad about our harmless jews
Mr Olonzo The alt right likes you be conspicuous with their racism. They put on a mask to hide their true racist colors, so they look more reasonable
Destiny became an ethnic national paleolibertarian in this debate.
Please never utter the word paleolibertarian ever again.
New Russia “Paleolibertarians” are just paleoconservatives who support free trade.
@@MisterCharlton I'm a paleosaurus.
That's the kind of mental pretzel you're forced into when you can't into race realism/evolution etc.
@@jackvancekirkland lmao you are so fucking dumb its cute
Destiny started missing lefties in this debate
nobody cares about leftist
Even in a debate with an outright White Nationalist, Destiny can't help himself by invoking his debates against lefties. "You remind me of the lefties I debate who I disagreed with over a completely different thing. You guys are so similar!" He would do the same thing against the lefties too with "Oh my you're just as bad as Nick Fuentes!"
Huh? and right wingers can lmao
@@Youngbukakki yea, duh
Anima , right wingers are literally retarded
Mike Enoch does not like juice in this debate.
Jok3ster699 I mean if you objectively think about everything like Hitler , it all adds up baby 😂😂😂
The Snow Nigro exactly
@The Snow Nigro Such as?
@The Snow Nigro maybe you should show them how much you dislike them by hosting a protest in israel. You know, the country that we are the puppet to.
Thats when it got interesting.
Destiny got oppressed in this debate
I wish TH-cam comments showed the number of dislikes. (see above for reference)
@FOR THE EMPEROR! I'm only 15 minutes in and so far it seems like he's winning, wonder when the turn around will happen.
@@rocketxxv3096 it doesn't. That guy feels oppressed.
@@alex-qd6of Ah ok thanks.
@Wambo Lambo Guts? More like wasting braincells.
Nebraska Steve, welcome back.
I love it
He realised his audience don’t like his economic ideology and only watch him for the far-right dunks.
@@MadJackChurchill1312 he sent those people to hasan
@@MadJackChurchill1312 his large growth throughout later 2019 suggests otherwise.
@@jhonsmith5567 Like Hasan would be brave enough to debate any non-commie ever again.
lol Destiny sperging out over Israel's control over US foreign policy
Destiny got demographically replaced in this debate
All they did was scream over him
@Officer Slater how?
Back to debating nazis and altrighters . my man
he says, with his anime PFP lmao and the fact people cant see these stereotypes or trends is genuinely embarrassing
Prick Archive ?????? Uh... right..
@@GamingChild no
The nazi Kick is ass
@@ruireis8652 you're right the nazi is ass.
National Justice Party.
Yeah he's heading it now. He's really moved on up from debating online and talking about whites interests.
This comment aged well@@teresazbikowska7094
I cant hear "killstream" without instantly thinking "HELLO, TINY" - funniest debate ever.
I'm not caught up with the lore, can you provide a link please?
@@giovanniruffinoni4832 he's talking about this one episode of the killstream where nick fuentes joined th-cam.com/video/PULTP-m9nYw/w-d-xo.html it's fucking hilarious
@@ToyohisaTV Thanks comrade
_Slippery Nick!_
It was a great argument.
Lol. Nick was doing the joker. That maniac makes me laugh. tiny is like no, no.. I can't do this. Haha.
We back on the conservatives baby
this is by far Destiny's best content
*nazis
@@ABC-ej1sd national socialist socialist?
@@ABC-ej1sd but Nazi already included socialist in the name I'm confused are nazbols closer to commies or just middling between socialism and communism?
@@ABC-ej1sd ah okay I see what you mean. Thanks for explaining
This was literally the best content on this channel in forever
On the basis of recent content, I wasn't even sure what side he was gonna be defending.
@@joop5415 you do know some of his most popular vids are of him debunking the alt-right?
Mostly because the editor is shit
Awoken Starship Captain Fuck Vaush
illyastralprojection bullshit
Destiny unironically married his waifu pillow in this debate
How waifu pillow owened you in a debate.
I'm his waifu pillows boyfriend and I approve this message
"Let's get away from Israel "
"Believe me I would love it"
😹😹😹
Classic.
"can we skip the 5 min intro"
"ok lemme give you a 5 min intro"
so glad we're back to the right. lefty arc had some highlights but got old so much more quickly...
Debating the right turns into much more of a mudpit which is rly fun to watch aswell
Lord Canti FUCKING TRUE LULW
Lord Canti truuu
@@lordcanti4199 absolutely true, and why destiny should honestly stop debating youtube frogs, they never are not educated enough to not resort to some bullshit argument they regurgitate from /pol/
@@lordcanti4199 I agree because now I feel like ive heard it all. Its all the same ideas, same talking points, same bullshit. But so many white men get pulled in by it still that i see the importance of this stuff
"lets get away from israel" desitny 2020
Debate Destiny >>>>> Drama Queenstiny
Destiny plz debate Jared Taylor
Destiny's pussy ass would get wrecked, lmao.
Matt White A guy whose username is James Watson is bound to be a Fuentes fan ever since the Trainwrecks debate
James Watson Not a Destiny fan exactly, I watch his debates quite a bit but while I agree with him on many things I can’t stand him personally. I watch America First more but I disagree with Nick on a fair few things like homosexuality, being religious and the 19th Amendment but I like his charisma.
James Watson I probably wouldn’t go so far as to say sociopath but he’s a vicious bastard and the type to justify anything that favors him. The guy moved to LA and left his young kid in Nebraska so he could collaborate with streamers even though makes 300k+ a year. Basically stepped out of his son’s life.
Yeah I would agree with that divide - LGBT people should be treated with respect on a personal level but as a political movement and force it’s expressions should be scrutinized. Given a fair shake and all but definitely scrutinized. Yeah I would agree on trans kids and the drag queen stuff.
The drag queen stuff is especially egregious - you could argue gender dysmorphia is a real issue but drag is an art form based around explicit sexual references, glamor, extravagance, sexuality, etc. that’s inappropriate for children
Matt White Why would you say he’s a grifter?
"Lets ignore studies"
Mike Enoch: _"Ok, did you see this statistic made by this study over here?"_
"Let us talk about immigration"
Mike Enoch: _"Ok, did you know that jewish conspiricies caused total surveillance of all people?"_
Ay lmao
Timestamp?
Destiny goes into data too and you will find that at the 44:17 mark
Really surprised Destiny didn't go after Mike's "it's really about if people FEEL that they are opressed"
Because he knows they feel it because it's true. It's a very new and peculiar type of oppression, but it's true.
@@SuperUnbeliever WAT.jpg
@madger, it's because he's trying to position a strawman to throw a gotcha, so there's not even a point addressing it. That's how they feel... super, let's move on to the actual discussion.
Senko S. I mean, he does go after the far-left
The only reason he framed it like that is because of how insanely obstinate people are when it comes to granting the premise that white people have valid group self interest.
When you're dealing with an opponent who refuses to acknowledge the blatant anti-white trends and attitudes in society, you have to regress the conversation to absurd levels of hypothetical reasoning and abstract principles and "suppose if you would that it was possibly the case that black ghettos might in some instances be an unwelcoming environment for white people." It's like bruh...
We saw the same thing back in the sargon spencer anglin debates where the morality of the logistics of achieving the ethnostate was focused on to avoid addressing the validity of the root motivations and the accompanying morality thereof, even in universal terms. "Sargon, can you grant the premise that homogeneity can be a desirable thing?" Sargn: "it doesn't matter because you'd have to kill people to get it!!"
Likewise here mike seemed to be preempting that sort of broad, weasely dismissal by couching white self interest in something that can't logically be denied to them since feeling is "illogical" to begin with. It's not flawed reasoning on mike's part, it's a form of desperation after constantly getting zero good will from his opponents for the sake of moving the discussion forward.
It's like when someone sees the logic you're attempting to lay out via socratic method so they frantically deny even the most self-evident starting premises to avoid engaging with the whole sequence.
1:01:00 totally disingenuous. Destiny wouldn't tell any other race to stop identifying with their race.
When Mike said "what about jews" in the intro I knew Destiny would be entertaining in this debate
Destiny was made a eunoch in this debate
Why?
@@roehanostornsyn3367 he got slammed in the nuts
Celts kicked Anglo-Saxons out of England in this debate
from debating ancoms to debating nazbols. amazin'
'azeh
BEYTA
Do. You. Luh. Bla people.
ah luhhh black pepo
this comment thread made laugh like i havent in a good while.
i would like to thank my mom, bla pepo, fluoxy L, project excho, yung skel, the menagrie for all the laughs support, i appreciate it.
Destiny got JQ'd in this debate
Destiny's hair was a messtiny in this debate
Nicholas Flemming Imagine not being gay in 2020.
“I don’t want to get into the Jewish conspiracy”
* gets into it *
He was basically forced into it. Enoch was like, well it's not a conspiracy, I'm just correct on this topic. If Destiny backed out at that moment, it would've seemed like Destiny lost by default.
@Sports Guru go ahead and give me a list of points that Destiny lost on
@Sports Guru he's just talking shit, his points make no sence.
It's no longer a conspiracy, it's a problem
@@VoidSinister the entirety of the video. When you show up to a debate drugged up you automatically lose even of you are right
Destiny got destinied in this destiny
Jontron but without the laugh
People like this guy are more tolerable than Jontron if for no other reason than he's just fucking honest about what he is. Destiny doesn't have to debate the subtext the whole time while his opponent tries to weasel out of every corner. Jontron still has an army of defenders to this day because he just implied that Destiny "tricked" him while it was blatantly obvious to anyone that wasn't his fan that he was clearly flirting with white nationalist/alt right ideas.
@@ataridc TRU
Pretty much everything he was saying just gave me immediate deja vu to that fucking shit show
@@ataridc and then you point out to them he followed white nationalist Twitter accounts until the middle of 2018 and they still just shrug it off. It's like trying to tell Pewdiepie fans that Felix is a piece of shit that, while he may not be actively cultivating a WN fanbase, is doing absolutely nothing to distance himself from them because he cares more about money and being the most subscribed to youtuber than even the slightest level of integrity
"They're fucking commulists!"
Guiuu Shurt and regardless of that, he still has 100 mil subs, and has made more money in 10 years than you will before you die. He’s on top, he’s got the crown. That’s the guys point. No matter how much you bitch and scream, he wins in the end. I’m a lib dem egalitarian that often argues against WN, Altrighties, and anti sjws. I’ve never even REMOTELY been any kind of pilled by Felix, nor have I picked up on any dog whistles. If you think pdp has any kind of roll in leading people down the alt right pipe line, you’re a fucking idiot. If meme review is in your sights instead of nick Fuentes or sargan of Akkad, you’re doing just as much of a disservice to progression as they are. He’s not a grifter, I don’t even think he’s alt right, or even really right at all. If the bar for being an alt right WN nazi is hosting sen bhapiro on a meme video, and saying nigger while playing a video game, then 85% of the fucking planet is a god damn white nationalist nazi grifter.
Destiny absorbed all of Mike Enochs yakubian energy in this debate.
@fluoxy L. how are you phonetically deaf
1:45:26 Why does it seem hard for Mike to believe there are some strict black families? Has he ever met a Nigerian or Somali family?
Well before you can have a strict family you have to have a family...
@@Ardepark dude there are absolutely families in nigeria and somalia.
@@red2theelectricboogaloo961 dude there are absolutely jokes that people tell sometimes
@@Ardepark that joke makes no fucking sense though
red 2 the electric boogaloo I’m so
sorry that it didn’t make you laugh :(
Finally, an enjoyable Destiny debate. It's been years
Heheh hey Tiioga. We both know Destiny got caught. It was indeed a great convo,
Destiny's position that White people aren't being demonized didn't age well lol
I don’t think if your a socially normal white person that your demonized irl
Gaslighting that white fragility training isn’t demonization is why so many people don’t trust anything the Left claims.
@@abdihakimhashi8621
You are just too stupid to understand when you are being demonized.
hi its three years later heres a reminder of what you said
@@lottiejulietetra
It’s even more true than it was then.
"Would you say that Israel is alligned with Saudi Arabia" - someone is out of right wing debate practice :D
"Oh that's right. I forgot you think everyone is part if the shadowy jewish cabal. My mistake."
@Chris Bartolini Including anti semites. Because its not primary about religion with Israel.
@Chris Bartolini That's a good point. It's kind of a conservative Christian thing. Some of them even think it has something to do with biblical prophecy.
Chris Bartolini
Evangelicals believe Jews need to live in Israel for the rapture to happen
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism
@Chris Bartolini Yes, anti-semites do support a Jewish state -- in a sense. It's their favorite example of an ethnostate.
1:03:00 "I hate unions because I'm a big capitalist-I don't hate unions." - Destiny
META BETA yea he doesn't hate unions
F Glenn He does hate public unions
Adderall is a hell of a drug
I'll tell you what, as a British person. It's a little disheartening that one of the only thing they could agree on was that our non-breakfast food is horrible ;.;
This is the JonTron debate except the JonTron in this debate is more articulate and Destiny is more calm and mature
wiptide he’s using the analogy to say that Mike is the more articulate JonTron and that this time Destiny is calmer
Wambo Lambo hard agree, I was just clearing up the analogy.
@@oz8497 imagine agreeing with an nick fuentes watcher.
@@oz8497 thanks for clarifying, I edited it so it should be clearer that that is what I meant.
Oh god, the Killstream's still a thing? Lol...
@randomer1432 Hes a commie, hes confusing a lot more than just that
Killstream is more popular than ever ...
Revolutionary Communist You’re thinking of JF and Andy Warski’s Bloodsports podcast series, which is in fact dead. Ralph Retort’s Kill Stream is very much still a thing, even after getting kicked off TH-cam.
@@victoriongreyjoy how many viewers does it get these days? I'm thought it was most popular when it was still on youtube
@Revolutionary Communist Huh JF and Andy never ran the Killstream. Apart from them being guests on each others shows and that they shared the same kind of internet sphere, with overlap when it came to their content.
Mike is right about Juice.
This is SOOO easy for Destiny. He makes his opposition look like a child.
He’s speedrunning the game at this point lol. He knows which dialogue options to go down for these NPCs
Destiny's child.
(•_•) / ( •_•)>⌐■-■ / (⌐■_■)
YEEEEAAAHHH
@Huh? at the rate they're building the wall it will take more than the next 10 presidencies to finish it. There are thousands of miles to cover and only 93~ have been covered so far... in 2 years... out of THOUSANDS of miles.
@Jay Jay they dont know that the construction there was actually maintenance and repair builds. Was already approved and had nothing to do with trump. =/
The delusion is real
“Illegal immigrants protect jobs” -Destiny
They ‘protect’ jobs for illegals 😂 the company should be fined and made an example of; the nation should train its own people to fill in positions not cheaply export them whilst undermining the native population and wage growth.
@@tansin9 They price low-skilled Americans out of the market, you mean.
Muh GDP muh GDP
@@duckmansam5046 you should debate him
Debates have become feminine and purposeless, what matters is will my violence conquer yours.
Sargon of Akkad raised another man's children in this debate
@@Adeon55 yeah just the closest to it you can get without it being literal
Anyone in the working class would be against mass immigration. It is one of the biggest factors in the declining value of labor. I run a construction and janitorial business. Very hard to compete with Sanjeet and his van full of visa students and family members that will do jobs for 1/3 of my price for cash by breaking labor laws and hiding from taxes.
Which is why capitalists continually label anyone against mass immigration as racist.
So, annacodtoal data? Most research shows it that sizable immigration doesnt reduce wages signifcantly, and definetly not in the long run
Remember was Bernie was against mass immigration?
Mike won.
I didn’t know who mike was so I just googled him and he’s half Serbian with a Jewish wife wtf hahaha
Andrew Cox but he’s in the video you’re watching ??
@@andrewcox5873 25% Serbian, 75% Norweigan and he married her before he became WN.
@@andrewcox5873 not sure how being Serbian precludes someone for advocating for white interests in the US. And the ex-wife thing has been done to death. He married this woman many years ago, his politics shifted over time, they eventually parted ways.
@@jakerobert3118 you dont see how being non-white comes into conflict with advocating for an all-white country? Were you dropped on your head as a child? I'd love to hear how he feels about people who are 25% african
Destiny drank shampoo in this debate
do you guys think Mike Enoch says the N word in his personal life?
He calls his wife the K-word.
th-cam.com/video/YJ2s_scd9NA/w-d-xo.html
You probably say it in private too.
@@calach2924 found the racist, haha. "just cause I do it must mean you do it too!"
Haha, nope. Just you bro.
@@dl4523 I never said I do, we are now happy to call our self racists , becasue discussing or seeing differences in races makes us racist by your terms but we don't really hate people becuase they are another race.
Destiny had nothing. His tactical agreement didn't really work as he came off weak in his disagreements.
You’re crazy
Imagine unironically being a Destiny fan.
@@WarningBFG-isHiring He literally has a podcast called The Daily Shoah. He sells 14/88 merch. He's not "hiding" anything but he's not a "Nazi" either. He's for sure a pseudo-fascist though. I think it's similar to milk-toast socialists taking on tankie iconography even though when you look at their actual positions they're not actually tankies.
@@WarningBFG-isHiring I'm not a Nazi which is why I can say that Mike isn't a Nazi. I don't even like Mike, he's full of himself and spends too much time circle jerking on his own website to actually understand reality. His co-host, Eric Striker, is actually a Nazi. They're both stupid.
@@blackopsy9 Do you understand that the name of the podcast aims to make fun of people like you who cry about things like this? As in: Jews think there’s another shoah every day. In this instance that is your tears about the podcast name.
I like how hysterical they get when the Jews are brought into the conversation. That is Very telling lol
Yeah, its telling because we all remember what happened during the Third Reich doofus.
@@Wesker10000What happened
The Germans ☠️⛽ 11,000,000x ppl, bruh...
Oh wait, that whole 11mil death toll came out of a call where Simon Wiesenthal pulled that number right out of his stechy, swampy bunghole because he wanted the non-Chosen to have SOME chips on the table to keep them invested, but definitely never to overshadow the 6 million (which was a number they were also coincidentally using for donations during WWI🤔). Isn't it surreal that you can just pull a 5mil death-toll out of thin air and have it be accepted by mainstream academia for decades, well, at least until Israel did a lolrug-pull and Jacquees the non-existent (supposedly largely Ukrainian population) of this imagined 5mil, and have the chutzpah to blame them for their "collaboration." 😂
There is literally no other argument in favor of diversity other than "food".
I mean I love food but now that we have the recipe...
Mike from CCP goes from one extreme to another!
HJ GE also known as «the Tankie-Fascist Pipeline»
Did Destiny debate someone from EvE online development team?
Mike from KKK
-- in this debate!
Happens a lot of the time, many of these authoritarian idiots don't really believe in anything or understand the world on an academic level. Authoritarianism appeals to the powerful and the stupid, left vs right doesn't really matter.
Mike “The American Goebbels” Enoch
Göbbels*
@@jeremias-serus let's be kind to the Americans now, they don't know better.
@@jeremias-serus 'oe' is just another way of writing ö. Try again.
@@jeremias-serus There are English words that are no longer pronounced how they use to be, there are words that are written literally the same that are pronounced completely differently. There is NO STANDARD when it comes to the English language.
Another example would be "café" actually being written as "cafe" despite being pronounced as the former. Spelling =/= sound when it comes to English, unlike languages like Spanish, Chinese, etc.
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I would pay $800 for a loaf of bread if I knew that I could trust my child to ride his bike down the road. How is this complicated?
finally, the Retrumption arc has started
Destiny back again.
@@onalos1271 Why? So lefties can keep spewing their bullshit?
@@RanEncounter Destiny seems to feel like lefty ideas are dumb but mostly harmless while right wing ideas are actually relevant and dangerous
@@ataridc Wait so communist or socialist ideas are not harmful? He clearly is very against tankies in the left and they are a lot more prevalent than nazis. I am not saying right wing ideas are not harmful or less harmful, but saying that lefty ideas are harmless is ridiculous.
@@RanEncounter when was the last time a tankie shot up a school or anything?
"Mike from KKK" is a very nice meme. Worth all 2 hours of my pain watching this.
>Watching Destiny ramble in an adderall induced state of insanity was very cringe.
Timestamp please? He always talks fast, pretty sure he didn't ramble.
>On the other side Enoch looked asleep and talked extra slow lol
He was screaming over Destiny for the first hour.
@MARK PEARSON Perhaps you just have an inability to comprehend people talking quickly, I used to speak that fast and had to train myself to speak slower for colleagues/friends whose 2nd language is english. Try using the 0.75 speed button.
Also, "Enoch talks slow and might of had to raise his tone of voice to talk over the rabid weisel" is incredibly disingenuous, watch the video again and watch how many times Destiny puts his head in his hands because Enoch states a point, Destiny tries to provide a retort and Enoch shouts over him...
@MARK PEARSON Interrupting someone politely and just talking over them are two completely different things.
I'm not a fan of either of them, I try to watch destiny debates on youtube when I can because he holds a lot of the same viewpoints as me, and I want to hear his and the opposing arguments, which are generally well thought through and articulated.
Yeah, he lost to Metokur. OK. That was 3 years ago. What's your point? That he loses every debate? What did you make of the JLP one, did he lose that too?
Also, re-reading this comment chain, and noticing your name in several other threads just spouting insults is pretty depressing, you continue to watch Destiny videos even though you have a clear distaste for him. You seem to just go for insults rather than actually articulate your reason/s, heres your chance.
>All I want is a meritocracy where theres no laws forcing unqualified people into positions they didnt earn and an end to immigration.
That exists, and there are laws enforcing it . There are racist cunts out there in positions of power that exclude based on race alone, and there are insane lefties who want to siphon up anyone they think can be their token, both have no place in positions of power imo.
>and an end to immigration
To me, that's nuts. Everywhere needs immigration/emigration, MERIT based immigration I agree with, illegal immigration hurts everyone, but legal immigration needs to be a thing. It's addressed in the video above, agriculture industry needs even seasonal workers to function.
Obama was a 2nd generation immigrant, Trump married 2 of them... Basically everybody is an immigrant in terms of America. (in relation to this video, Mikes saying he doesn't want white people to be drinking shampoo like on Indian reservations is fucking insane)
>Dems brag that whites will be a minority by 2040 and that will not improve any aspect of the country
I have NEVER seen someone say this is a good thing. And while I agree that it will not improve anything, I fail to see how it will be a detriment.
>I'd prefer everyone be judged by the content of their character.
Same, however, you haven't given a reason for throwing insults and attempting to sow dissent.. if it's just funny to you, that's a reason.
@MARK PEARSON To the Donald Trump/Republican point, I think there are a few dozen more issues in that area than just race. Whether they impeach Trump or not will be indicitave of the next 20 years of the Republicans. No matter which way you look at it, he fucked up, and Rs stood by and watched the clusterfuck unfold.
I'd be interested if you have a link to the NYT articles/CNN clip, as 'CNN said' is a bit of a dubious statement, could have been their employee or a talking head. And I don't have an NYT subscription.
Would you care to address ANY of the other points raised? Last few in particular?
Triggered Enoch can't handle the jq being called a conspiracy
Jordan Questionson
When was he triggered? He seemed pretty calm through the whole thing.
SLIPPERY NICK
TRIGGERED ENOCH
GISHGALLOPIN NAZI
It's all so tiresome.
@@stg4498 Exactly. White privilege is more of a conspiracy theory than the JQ, because the white nepotism seems to so elusive and opaque that it can't be observed or measured anywhere.
@@yes8515 R u stupid
www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/09/28/black-and-hispanic-families-are-making-more-money-but-they-still-lag-far-behind-whites/
What part of AIPAC does Destiny think is a conspiracy?
Or IMF AND WORLDBANK, SPLC AND ADL
Oh they are conspiracies for sure. Just not conspiracy theories. Conspiracy facts👍
Destiny was red pilled in this debate
I know it’s a small point to harp on, but from based on 40:30 - 43:00 (specifically when I realized this to be a good question) I’d be curious to hear if Mike thinks ethnicity and immigrant are synonyms. Hypothetically if all of the Caucasian’s from UK came and caused the same immigration concerns would he still have a problem?
Senko S. Seems like cognitive dissonance on his part then. If all immigrants are a problem, then it seems to logically follow you’d be for AMERICAN interests. However, that’s obviously not the case.
Senko S. Sure and my rebuttal to that would be it seems more convincing that America was and is more of an idea and culture than an ethnicity.
Now obviously that’s a very fundamental idea so it’s highly likely where I would agree to disagree with a racist idea and make it clear that no matter what ethnicity is doing it it’s just as racist. That said there is a difference between taking pride in an ethnic ancestry (which I think for the most part is fine) and excluding an ethnic group from something.
@@snooglers Mike is pro-White, simple as.
Destiny needs to see how disabled huwites are treated in the social services departments for aid. We get DENIED benefits by newcomers who have taken over the jobs there.
@Dalavar Redclaw
No, I don’t have proof that that was their reasoning, and they are very careful to discriminate in a way that they cannot be held accountable. If you’ve ever been the target of such discrimination, then you would know how easy it is to tell what is going on.
Wish I recorded all the interactions with them - as that would have at least shown that they were acting as unprofessional as it gets, harassing me and making a big show to try to humiliate me for no actual reason in a lobby full of people listening and watching, and denying my benefits without an actual reason.
I tried going over their heads and filing a complaint with the main corporate office, but it became clear real quick that they weren’t going to give a shit either. They kept saying someone would call me back to go over my case, but know one did. The only time of the few attempts I made to file a complaint that they actually had someone call me back was having the SAME EXACT head case worker whom I had dealt with who was the one who denied me my benefits call me! It was awful.
It seemed pretty clear that it is an issue that is being implemented across the board against people who look like me.
Dalavar Redclaw
Nope, I absolutely qualified. Been qualifying and getting benefits for years prior. Nothing changed financially on my end, nor on their end with policy. You’re wrong.
@Dalavar Redclaw
Nope, not making anything up. I’ve told the pertinent details (not going to bother writing an essay regarding every single detail, because that would take ages, but I wrote all the key points that are necessary to convey, and I didn’t leave out something that would change the overall narrative in any way whatsoever. Do you often go around calling people liars for no good reason? Just curious if you are an ass on the daily, or if you’re anti-white, or what.
What I meant by “no proof,” is that I have no audio/video recordings or phone numbers of witnesses that saw what took place. But if anyone with a half of a brain and a decent moral compass that works in the government were to review my case though, they would no doubt come to the appropriate conclusion that this had to have been discrimination, from multiple workers there too.
The person in charge of handling my case was the head case-worker in the department, meaning she was supposed to be the most experienced, knowledgeable, and no one was above her head that she answered to (her boss would be at the main corporate office instead). She was the TOP DOG, and yet, she was so inept that she refused to return my important phone calls, make any adjustments of all her litany of “mistakes” that I pointed out (which I believe were intentional because no one with her experience should have made all the _really pathetic inexcusable giant mistakes_ she made), intentionally refused to use medical deductions that have always been used in the past for my case and are supposed to be used (nothing changed in the government policy), and even SENT BACK all the copies of documents I gave her that are needed to figure out exactly how much I qualify for in benefits, saying that they were not going to be used. I couldn’t believe it. She was clearly not wanting the copies to remain in my file there, because if they were, then anyone that reviewed my case would question her immediately as to why she didn’t appropriately use those documents to give me the benefits they prove I deserve.
And that was just the issues I had with ONE person at the office. There was multiple workers that acted so unconscionably nasty to me there that I went home in tears three days in a row from that place trying to get my shit taken care of.
The fact that you have a hard time believing that this is going on to people in this day in age and rudely call people who talk about their experiences with it “liars,” shows you have a screw loose and moral compass issue.
@Dalavar Redclaw
You’re an absolute idiot. When all else fails, victim-blame, right?!
I was actually _overly polite, as I ALWAYS AM WITH GOVERNMENT WORKERS._ I was not raised by wolves and I have an lQ of 122. I was a working professional before becoming disabled and know damn well how to treat others professionally! They have all the power in the world over my basic survival - I would have to be brain dead to not be extremely professional and polite! You weren’t even there, you total moron.
I even gave my sincere condolences to the bitch that ended up not giving me my owed benefits when she told me she had to take a call because her sister had to be hospitalized that morning, and when I left that appointment with her, I gave my best wishes for her sister to have a speedy recovery.
These people did NOT return my professionalism and courtesy! Even as something as basic as my using the community copy machine that in the lobby meant for the public to use to copy documents for their cases was treated with them accusing me of using it inappropriately without any cause or reasoning! Every time someone else has to make a quick copy I let them use it and I would continue working on my paperwork after, because I am a very polite and reasonable person who didn’t want to hold them back since I had a lot of documents to copy for my case and they only had a couple of copies to make. These workers were so f’ing rude that they would even turn off the copy machine while I was using it, saying no case should require someone to make as many copies as I was making WHEN NONE OF THESE FRONT DESK WORKERS EVEN KNEW MY CASE, NOR WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR SOMEONE WHO IS MEDICALLY DISABLED (people getting food stamps just because their income is low from a low salary at their job do not need to show medical deductions like a disabled person who is getting higher income from social security but has a shitload of medical expenses that leave them with little to no disposable income for all their other necessities/bills).
I have spoken with tons of other whites in similar situations - I am not alone in facing this rampant discrimination. These Hizpaniks (SIC) that have taken over these agencies due toAffirmativeActi0n here in So Cal do NOT like us. Perhaps you are ignorant of the Reconquista ideology that is strongly supported here by them, but others don’t live under a rock!
@Dalavar Redclaw
Facade?? LOL! I have no need to treat you respectfully - you don’t deserve it for the way in which you have presented yourself here - you deserve the name calling (as do the people I dealt with in that office - but I didn’t show an ounce of attitude or say name calling to their faces, or show any “chip on my shoulder” - like I said I was totally 100% professional there), and you have no power over my survival like those racists are, so why would I treat you with respect when you haven’t shown me any??
I still get social services, moron. I get section 8, and charity help for my utilities. And I’m not even a man, idiot. Nice job at being a stupid sexist though, showing just how your anti-white male you are, and assuming that only men use TH-cam.
Obviously I am not an “underachiever,” as I told you I had a successful professional career before becoming disabled, and thus have always known how to act professionally and courteously with others in business matters. I also was always on the Honor’s/Dean’s list for the entirety of my education, putting myself through college, and got my dream job straight away upon graduating university. I really must be some “underachiever!” 😂
The fact you are so blind as to see what is going on with the culture of the people who have replaced why.te folks in these jobs and their attitude they have towards why.tes with the Reconquista narrative rampant here in So California (do you even live here???) shows just how much you have your head in the sand and have no clue as to just how prevalent anti-why.te raycism is in America.
By the by - trying to “provoke” me? What are you 15??
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When destiny announced he was going to debate conservatives this was really not what I was expecting.
As in you didn't expect the guest? Or you didn't expect Destiny to play softball and giggle with a nazi for 2 hours?
You don't have to do a Hasan Piker and scream over the guest in the least appealing school girl voice ever.
I found this to be actually interesting to see how enoch had to weasel around the point he knew were wrong.
Watch hasan or Seder if you want to watch someone scream about how wrong racism is for 3 hours. It really gets old man.
was expecting somebody more like steven crowder or something less extreme
@@raz0rcarich99 Hasan is intolerable, but this is a weird point to make when Destiny literally got popular on the left for screaming at alt righters?
Standard trad-con talking points .... *JEWS OUT OF NOWHERE*
I’ve been following Destiny for a year and been following online politics for longer. I swear to God, I still do not understand where antisemitism comes from. It makes absolutely no sense to me lol
@@Kyle_Schaff have you really been listening to any of the debates if you still don't get it?
@@Kyle_Schaff its nazism lol. it makes perfect sense. "cultural marxism" the nazis were using this trope too
generational wealth put a significant proportion of jews into positions of financial power, so they use that to blame them for everything
Its proven that the left struggle to understand the right but not vice versa.
"generational wealth" I think you mean ethnic cartel. Either way the big problem for you people is that you have no arguments, all you can do is handwave the criticisms and say "uhm ur just blaming them for everything" and as soon as it gets into specifics you have to back away, just like Destiny did in this debate.
Destiny blamed the left in this debate
"Pro White" means Professional White person
We are the only group that can’t advocate for ourselves.
"Women don't wanna work!" Right. They just want to be mothers. That's not like work at all. Not because raising children is easy or anything. It's just because it's for labor for your own family and not a boss. Men should be encouraged to work for strangers while women should be restricted to working for their relatives. My head's starting to hurt.
1:07:48: "Blacks and whites got along better before the Civil Rights Movement."
Me: So we just volunteered to sit in the back of the bus, drink from nasty water fountains and have segregated whatever the fuck?
Destiny backed himself into a bad corner. He had to argue that the USA is some great democracy and all of these changes were simply the will of the people, and if we don't like something we can just vote to have it changed. He had to literally argue that big money interests doesn't play a role in our government lol. In reality a roomful of the wealthiest people in the USA donate enormous sums to NGOs. These organizations then represent their donors interests 24/7, by applying pressure against those who are in the way of their agenda. For example, if a proffesor at an ivy league college becomes an effective pro Palestinian activist he will be attacked relentlessly by seemingly all sides. Organizations such as AIPAC, ADL, and the SPLC will write hit pieces, which other journalists pick up on and also write about. These NGOs will then make countless phone calls to the professors hire ups with accusations of anti-semitism, and threatening to withdraw funding from their alumni. The SPLC literally blew up multiple pro Palestinian lobbies and were labeled a terrorist organization by the FBI. Violence is the last resort and will happen if Soft power does not work. The zionists behave like mobsters because many of the early founders of Zionist organizations in the USA were literal mobsters. Looks up Edgar Bronfman of Seagrams liquor during the bootleg era. He and his dynasty went on to create many powerful institutions. Charles Bronfman founded MEGA Group (epstein), and The Federalsists society to name a few. Every supreme court nominee for the past half centiry have neen Federalist society judges. When the supreme court has the final say, and all of its members belong to an insane click of zionist supremacists, tbis gives these people enourmou power. Charles Bronfman was head of the world Jewish congress, sat on the federal reserve, and was head of the IMF. Probably the single most influential person of the 20th century. "The super mob" by Robert Ruseeau is a great book on thos topic.
Surprisingly, both agreed to a certain point. They just disagree on how to diagnose the problem.
Israel is a puppet of the usa is the funniest thing I've heard all day.
And they actually believe this
Dude just doesn't understand that "American" isn't synonymous with "White". All his arguments crumble to ash if you were to ask, "what does an American look like?" Just because Sweden is for the Swedish and Japan is for the Japanese, doesn't mean those nationalities are race-locked and the US is explicitly set up for cultural diversity (no official language, religion, etc). We've just been really bad at fulfilling our contract until the late 20th century.
You obviously don’t understand why he wants white people to remain a majority.
@@dutchmeyer2956 thank you for the compliment
@F.W. what are "race problems"? Like how Muslim rule brought Spain out of the dark ages? How is race different in Europe? I don't know enough to know if they are "exactly the same" but I know enough to be skeptical.
Cuban isn’t an ethnicity, calling yourself half Cuban is about as meaningless as calling oneself a Brazilian, both can racially range from the purest Spaniard to the purest Indio and everything in between.
Pretty sure Destiny is Jewish
I was gonna say the same thing lol. Like, I'm Uruguayan (which is a country that is demographically 88%-95% European) but I'm mixed: half-Indigenous + African, and half-white. Just saying the name of the country of origin doesn't mean shit lmao
This 100%. Hispanics can be white too
It's very extremely rare for any latin american to be 100% of anything.
there is a general average admixture that most of people in those countries are, for places like cuba and the dominican republic for example, that mixture tends to be black + spanish, but can also be native + spanish
for places like mexico and honduras, that mixture tends to be native + spanish.
There is a distinctive mixture and a distinctive look applicable to latin americans that means we can classify them as a race at this point, you know a latino when you see when, that proves already that you're just arguing to argue.
also, latin americans LOVE to link race with skin color and skin color alone, the pale guys you know that you consider white are immediately identifiable as latino in white countries
Holy fuck. As a Japanese person, listening to Mike mischaracterize the reason why Japan's birth rate is so low and why people aren't getting out was fucking infuriating.
@@sepulcher8263 you can find a lot with a simple google search since there is way too much to be able to convey it in a youtube reply chain.
But from what I gathered over time its usually a problem with the economy. A lot of working hours with relatively bad pay. Forcing usually men into positions where they don't even consider having a partner let alone a family since they don't have stable jobs that will last them till retirement.
Most of the money they earn goes right back into rent, college loans, taxes leaving them with little money to do anything else.
Then there are also social, political and cultural issues mixing in with that and you have this mess.
I also once read that the main "demand" before building a family around the world is financial stability. In japan that core aspect is fundamentally broken at the moment
@@blacksuitedsonic in any case, I'm not saying it's obvious why Japan's birth rate is low.
@@blacksuitedsonic that doesn't explain why affluent people don't have children. By that logic making people very wealth will produce the opposite outcome, I'm not contradicting you I'm just pointing out a weird point.
How? Any elaboration to offer?
Destiny is constantly deconstructing everything Enoch is saying. Its the whole "what is white" trope.
2:25:20 lol Destiny misses the forest for the trees so frequently, you have to wonder if it's intentional. Of course suddenly forcing a drastically different, foreign system of government and laws upon a nation will have large repercussions.
It's part of the reason why when the US and the West in general tries artificially enacting liberal, democratic constructs in places like Africa or the Middle East, why these things tend to be very unstable and fall apart without constant military oversight.
Destiny trying to hone in on a single law that he thinks would "prevent men from approaching women" is such a useless exercise, it's astonishing. Nobody here is a Japanese man in the 1950s - we can't expect their norms and practices to conform to what Destiny thinks is normal. And moreso, as I said at the very top, this is missing the big picture. It is not any single law, it is the cumulative effect of the massive societal and legal change which was forced on Japan by the US occupation in the decades following WWII.
All these arrogant, flippant, cocky little wannabe antifa in this comment section think they're so smart for tuning out the evil racists, that they can't stop and seriously consider the points being made for two seconds. Absolutely pathetic audience.
What do you mean by forest for the trees? I haven’t finished the video.
@@diegorincon4673 pretty sure I explained what I meant in the same comment. Destiny critiques people for allegedly using a single thing to explain multiple complex phenomena, because he has trouble with abstract thinking.
To dumb it down... No single thing explains everything, but a single thing can affect multiple other things to varying degrees, and when you're talking about these broad ideas and large factors - such as race, religion, etc - it's insanely reductive and counterproductive to try and press someone for one singular example which explains everything. With Japan, of course there's no single law. It's the totality of the foreign influence and pressure. Destiny gets into the weeds on every little thing because that's his tactic, is endless deconstruction of the opposing narrative until the small peices fit his worldview. When a small piece comes up that directly counters his worldview, eg an article, a study, a tweet, he rationalizes it away and dismisses it as not being representative or even indicative of the larger picture.
He pushes for specific examples of larger issues, then attacks the specific examples for being exactly that - specific. He refuses to engage with the totality of the evidence, it's just endless deconstruction. Like I said, he misses the forest for the trees.
@@SanctusBacchus very clean analysis
Destiny got smashed.
You forgot "in this debate"
@@gaunertv8785 you know ante pavlic oustachi
@EnterTheVoid who?
25:30 Glad to see these were Palestinians and not ISISians cause terrorist groups tend to create their own nationalities
Destiny season 3: return of the altrighter-smiter
I need a destiny vs nick Fuentes 2020
it wont happen, the cosmic jew gods wont allow it
*smiter
The word is "smite." Just fyi, no shade intended
Eric Coffey heh, you totally pwned that skrub.
I would first like to apologize to my parents, they raised me to be better than this, but I have failed them.
@@Boulder7685 Yeah, that'll learn him! Misspell something on the internet? Pffft, I dont think so - not on MY watch, buddy!
Destiny is wrong about the judicial branch. It does, in practice and perhaps even in theory, get the final say. Judicial review permits the court to review legislation with respect to its constitutionality, where the court decides what is constitutional, often employing liberal forms of interpretation to strain the meaning of the text.
Destiny oppressed a white person in this debate
Imagine unironically being a Destiny fan.
Nothing is more amusing than Nazis pretending as though they have some sort of social leverage that lets them credibly insult people in any social context for not being Nazis.
Like, dude, this is the equivalent of a Flat-Earther saying "heh, imagine being a fucking GLOBE-HEAD."
He is serb no he is ennemi of Reich you know oustachi ante pavlic
Butter Brickle Hes your typical white neo liberal. The biggest issue with white people is outwardly preferenced liberals from the perspective of “white nationalism”
@Matt White what argument of his is dumb and why? you should email him and organize to talk about it on stream, should be easy to make him look like an idiot if he's so dumb. contact@destiny.gg
imagine unironically identifying with a group because of the color of your skin, something you had absolutely zero control over. Hilarious.
Destiny argued against an actual harmful ideology in this debate.
Cool story
I work with a guy who grew up in the Soviet Union. I hear all about how Alexandria Ocasio Cortez is going to put people in work camps and that lefties are secret tankies.
James Downs lol wth?
@@jayt7178 Welcome to my world.
James Downs cant wait to build concrete busts of marx, lenin, stalin, and bernie in the AOC work camps after eating imitation rat for breakfast because i wanted single payer healthcare and slightly higher taxes on billionaires
lol gauge destiny's reactions to what Mike says
Mike says that white people have the right to maintain their dominance over the USA and retain an ethnic majority and he doesn't care, remains calm. Then Mike says Israel has a disproportionate impact on US foreign policy and then destiny starts freaking out lol. What is your deal with Israel lol.
Goddammit, after that intro I can’t resist watching this. I thought I had my fill of these, but I guess I was wrong.
Id really like to know where Destiny gets his magic polling data that says whites “don’t care” about becoming a minority... and would really like to figure out how that poll was done and specifically with who
I'd like to see the magic polling data that they do. When you argue an affirmative, you need to provide sources, not vise versa.
@@arabiannights5301 Although I don't have any that would show either, I would consider the 2016 Trump election as a weighing argument for the advocacy that whites do in fact care about remaining a majority, mostly due to Trumps stances on immigration at the time
@@The_Taste_Buds Disagreed, for a few reasons:
1. Trump wasn't voted for in 2016 only by whites, and definitely not in 2020.
2. There are significantly more important and more common reasons to desire immigration restriction than those of racial majority. This is further proven by the fact that Trump was widely considered, even by his critics, to be an economic president.
3. Trump's perceived anti-establishment attitudes were far more frequently cited by 99% of his supporters than his tentative racial rhetoric.
@@arabiannights5301 ya whatever dude, believe what you want to believe, I'm certain that any racial majority from any ethno-state would care significantly about becoming a minority.
Word it however you want, put as many fancy words you can find even, I don't believe your garbage for a second...
@@The_Taste_Buds whites have always been the minoriy worldwide.
Destiny clearly never eaten good british food. From being invaded by the french, germans, romans and dutch, to going on to colonize 3/4s of the world, Britain has been a melting pot for food since before US was even discovered, we have some of the best forein culture food in the world here. Stop taking advice on where to eat from Sliker aight Destiny?
You realise that you just tried to defend British food by giving examples of British people preferring foreign food?
@@pietzsche Destiny specificalled out our versions of foreign food as I mention in my comment...
As someone with an Indian Hindu background you guys stole Indian food and Indian spices from my ancestors
@@TheAaronChand To be fair, they stole everything from everyone :P
@@pietzsche yet this rascist guy debating Stephen doesn't seem to realize that Europe the west would be nothing without Asian goods Tea silk porcelain Spices cotton textiles
Mike Enoch looks like if Richard Spencer had diabetes
and stung by a bee
Wow. Great comment. A like wasn’t enough
Fun fact (I believe it's a fact at least, as I recall reading it from an interview with her), Yoko Kanno toured America before creating the music for Cowboy Bebop so she could better understand it and write for it.
Mike Enoch is the male version of a Karen tbh
Poointheloo
"Economically Progressive Anti-Degenerate", short for "I believe the the State should to put it's finger in every single situation that goes against my interests and beliefs".
Yes
So the state shouldn’t step in when it comes to degeneracy but it should step in to diversify neighborhoods and crack down on racism? Can you see the problem with having hypocritical views?
poisonsquid37 except degeneracy isn’t real, it’s just trad-tards being triggered
poisonsquid37
No, because the argument is that those things harm society as a whole. Whereas “degeneracy” (aka just things I don’t like as an individual) do not, at least generally.
pgmlivegameur Yeah and neither is racism.
Destiny's chat is pure cringe like reddit levels of cringe
32:20 I'm losing my mind over the fact that the guy unironically bringing in the Jewish Question and explaining it with "that's just what it is" is asking for evidence
@A҉ ̶͡B̷̶ Ŗ̨͢ ͠A̡͢ ́X̸ ͡A҉ ̷̸S̵͠ ̧̛ I think he took a DNA test and he got something like 0.1% Ashkenazi, but maybe he presented a fake test, I dunno
And we’re back boys