Destiny and Bastiat debates BigPapaFascist and his wife... Part Two ( th-cam.com/video/poz4OjAVKaQ/w-d-xo.html ) Check out Politically Provoked ►th-cam.com/users/PoliticallyProvokedvideos | Follow Bastiat ►twitter.com/EverydayBastiat Additional Timestamps Click▼ 0:00 - Teasers/Intro 0:58 - Debate introductions and openings 1:54 - BigPapaFasc opening 5:05 - Bastiat opening 8:36 - Destiny's opening 10:08 - Wife attacks Bastiat, they're not neocons, Bastiat responds 14:55 - Arbitrary roadblocks 18:40 - What is nationalism and what is a nation? 21:08 - Culture angle, constitution prism 28:01 - Nationalism vs patriotism, Biden vs Trump 33:00 - Infrastructure, wall on the border 41:17 - Constitution prism, religious prism, unifying prism 50:39 - Foreign lobbying 59:27 - Foreign aid, relations, US interest 1:03:34 - Nobody supports corruption, lobbying is bribing? 1:11:56 - Bite the bullet and say 'yes', the Chinese government is corrupt 1:14:13 - Policies that are protective of domestic organisations 1:20:14 - "As a mother..." 1:24:28 - Why women hold the majority of student debt 1:28:17 - BigPapaFascist builds the robots 1:33:32 - Q&A, how is it possible to have common culture? 1:37:05 - Nationalism slippery slope 1:40:40 - Remittance, brain drain, send back talent? 1:44:03 - Border security measures, constitution prism 1:46:27 - Every country practices nationalism, curious 1:49:15 - Israel lobbying 1:52:13 - People are the same then why do they immigrate to US?
“Do houses have walls? Well I guess the wall is infrastructure then.” Wow. By that logic, “Do Americans have arms and legs? I guess Mexicans are Americans then.”
A nation is a collective that negates stronger against an outgroup than internally when competing for the same resources. In the modern context this happens along racial lines mostly
@Anton Rutfors it is a feature sure, ingroup morality is applied to keep the nation stable and the effects of identity negation are lessened due to our temporary state of "post scarcity" but it's not only it's laws.
@C Parton because it doesn’t provide anything for the citizens of the country. No working class person would want a wall over better roads, better healthcare , better education.
@C Parton Even for those people who want to sacrifice our economy to keep the mexicans out, the wall is a garbage idea because it doesn't do any of the things you want to any significant degree. That's what makes it objectively stupid instead of "just an idea i disagree with".
I used to be cuntish about homeschooled people too, but Ive learned its a huge gradient, especially outside of America. Even locally I know some kids that were a part of a homeschool co-op during the lockdown and now that they're back in public school, some of them are a full 2 years ahead of the curriculum. It's like they went back to school with cheat codes
@@anon6181 all depends on the goals of this co-op. Most homeschooled people are very individualistic as in this is just my family. Not a group of families that come together. I'd like to know more about how it was set up. Were multiple families involved, were the parents teachers themselves, did they hire tutors, etc?
Bro look, I don't know if you realize this but I was homeschooled, I literally got all my foundation, my entire world-view from one person, my mom bro so I dunno why you coming off as such a know-it-all /troll
@@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965 are you a Christian conservative who believes in national populism and goes by the name "big papa fascist" and is married to a homeschooled woman named Rachel? If not, that comment wasn't meant for you
@@mohammadkayed7780 the best content is debating home schooled idiots, really moves the dialogue forward doesn't it? Constantly having to address common morons?
@@mroctober3583 He basically needs to be Booksmarts and act almost like a 3rd opponent. He needs to point out what Destiny has over looked or failed at communicating.
Lol. My coworker did the same thing. "I'm not putting that poison in my body" as he is hungover from drinking the night before and lighting up a cigarette.
I could make the same argument about leftists. "If you don’t get a vaccine you're putting other people in danger" or "not wearing a mask puts others in danger" all while promoting obesity as body positivity 🤣
@@basquegrand8982 My interpretation of what your saying. Liberals should shame obese people so the have a negative body view and then they will lose weight and be more physically healthy.
@@hvmetalwarmonger178 your interpretation of what I’m saying is stupid. What I’m saying is don’t pretend to give a shit about peoples health and at the same time act as if being obese is healthy.
He was actually not wrong in this. An example of a nationalistic policy was requested and one was provided. Whether that policy in practice is effective or not was not of any relevance, it only needed to sufficiently characterise what a nationalist policy would take the form of.
As a service technician who fixes robots - BPF doesn't do what he thinks he does. There is a major difference between service techs who handle minor breakdowns and follow LITERAL IKEA LIKE INSTRUCTIONS to build and disassemble robots, and service techs who handle major breakdowns, manage construction of those systems and oversee and train the lower tier service techs. What he says he does requires an engineering degree in either mechatronics, mechanics or electronics. What he actually does requires some kind of certificate IV/diploma in mechatronics.
Thought so. I was curious so I was googling around but I could only manage to find job listings where an engineering degree was required. I guess he was proudly bragging to his wife that he was The Engineer (tm)
based. That "do you know what a servo is" $200 jeopardy question was a dead give away, imo. My 10 yo niece who went to one robotics summer camp knows what a servo is.
@@evanbyrne7020 Kudos for putting into words the issue in BPF's argument. I was cringing the whole time during his last debate with Destiny, because expressing why he has no idea of what he's saying takes just so much time and one might sound like an elitist asshole. I don't think I have the rhetorical skills to put it into words xD Good luck with that undergrad! I'm going for the PhD as we speak :-)
@@brendanmassie9586 BPF has not once crushed Destiny. He barely understands what he's talking about. Unless you're already predisposed to agree with him, I have no clue how anyone in their right mind can find anything Big Papa Fascist says compelling.
@@ThePurplemaneater yes he did. He got wrecked in their debate about equality. Destiny has no understanding of how classical logic and argumentation works.
Destiny :"What is common between All Americans? " Papa : " Well Americans are united by being American , which is very American, viewed from the prism of being American, protected by American laws and ... "
What is common between all Americans? I can't think of anything other than the English language so far and that's not counting those that weren't born here. Because we're such a mesh of everything, it is hard to find one common thing among all of us unless by common you mean that not everybody has this in common but most do. If we include every single American then I hope the English language. You probably can't even say school cause some kids probably never attended any sort of education ever, you'd probably find a crazy case like that. The question should be "what SHOULD be common between all Americans?" Then we can provide many answers like Christianity, tradition, language, nationalism, white skin. KIDDING ABOUT THAT LAST ONE!
@@Ash-jm3pd watched 26 minutes of it and I'm done. These people can't argue for shit. They should stop doing debates forever cause they're not made for it no matter how much they practice. I'm sick of incompetent right wingers being unable to even decently argue their positions. Who are these people anyway? They're not good orators; probably couldn't even do a good speech about anything. Couldn't even present an idea properly. I feel like a lot of people try to get into debates but not many are good at them. These shouldn't be the people defending our positions. It looks like it's easy to get idiots or inexperienced people to do this shit these days. I feel like I'm watching Ben Shapiro (left wing version) debating college students (right wing version.) These people should keep their views, vote, donate, attend rallies but please stay the fuck away from trying to represent our views in debates.
i really wish they could be honest when they say "culture" because everyone knows that culture is not some immutable genetics, you can learn a different culture, cultures even change over time. if culture is an unchanging part of you that must destroy the other cultures to survive...... you might not be talking about "culture" at all.
You know what's really weird? It's incredibly hard to define. Not many people even attempt it. It's an over encompassing everything and nothing. You can easily say culture is the humanity of a nation and wouldn't be wrong. And in the same breath you could say there are wildly different cultures in a nation. It's literally a meme word that we use to describe the difference in the humanities area for *everything*. Scary when you really think about it.
Because different races develop different cultures so to stay genes have nothing to with culture is stupid. There’s a reason why different races haven’t developed the same culture. Just because anyone can adopt a culture, doesn’t mean cultures don’t come into existence based upon who is creating them. Culture didn’t exist before people, people have to create them first. Black culture is nothing like Asian culture, Arab culture is nothing like Eastern European culture, so on and so fourth.
@@mastermoose8390 there's everything genetic about it. There's literally nothing human beings do that isn't involved genetically, humans are biological. Your genes play a role in anything you do.
@@danoco6385 Ryan Dawson's, "We know Hillary is bad on foreign policy so let's try Trump and see what happens", take in that debate, didn't age well either and comparitavely between the two. No one wants to talk to Ryan so what exactly did he win?
His IQ has gone beyond the negatives and has imploded into a super entity that has consumed all in it's vicinity, he has now become a hyper enlightened being with the accumulated IQ of all intelligent life in the solar system.
@45 fottuto stronzo charity is anything you don’t work yourself to get. Which is all you listed. If you have a job 99% of the time you will have health insurance. I don’t believe Germany McDonald’s pays that much sounds like bs. It’s not even how much you make is the problem. It’s how expensive things are. From inflation and money printing.
He used to do it on secondlife too, when hw was sex pestering furries in DMs for nudes etc. Oh yeah, bastiat was a weirdo btw. "Caine Cosntantine" was his name there.
@Nick Bacigalupo So why is he so mad about sharia law when Christians do the same thing. It doesnt matter if he denounces it when hes freaking out about sharia law (a non issue) in the first place
I actually work with these exact same people only in reverse. The husband is homeschooled and disconnected. He is so out of touch with reality one of my coworkers who is black was joking about robbing us while working in the city and this guy said he would gather up the clan to take care of things. For a fact he was not talking The Klan he just meant his church. These people are out of touch
@@fancynecrosi1848 I disagree. There are people who's lifestyles require home education. I also believe the current system does not adequately prepare children for their futures. Instead we should be expanding self guided education options for children no matter the circumstances including providing updated and relevant online sources of knowledge. Giving people more options to suit their lifestyle will provide a better outcome in the end. Not everyone is the same or even living close to the same lives and trying to force people into smaller bubbles won't help anything, in my opinion of course
Same here was behind in some subjects, ahead in others the thing I found the most difficult to shake or unlearn was the evangelical Christian programming which colored my opinions for decades before I found a way out
At least you didn't get K-12. They suck too. At least with homeschooling you can find and dream for ways to escape. I wish I was homeschooled because at least it would give a motive to leave my terrible family.
@@fungdark8270 Her argument would make sense if her premises were true, but alleging that there are so many immigrants "flooding" into the country that it puts a massive unpredicted strain on our power system is just fucking absurd.
@@McClain3000 If there are far more people than the census shows, and than interim stats show, funding may be harder to get because although the population may be X, the books show X - 5% This isn’t a reason to block immigration and focus solely on “the wall,” rather evidence of the urgency of the issue. We need the undocumented here to have a pathway to citizenship and SOMEHOW get the immigration system going in the right direction, but leaving the border as it is isn’t an option. People are paying $10k to be trafficked to and/or over the border by people often time associated with the cartels. This is just not good, and pretending that leaving the border as is is “compassion” is just sick.
@@zacharychristy8928 It’s not “the reason” it failed, but having “invisible” residents isn’t good, there was recently in Austin/Travis county a push to educate people that the census isn’t going to get them in trouble and that they NEED to participate for the reason mentioned.
BPF: You want no borders! Destiny: Actually, i think we need borders and some immigration control, like green cards. Homeschooled brain: Well at least we agree in something. 1 hour later BPF: Destiny literally said that borders are just imaginary lines. Destiny: Lol i literally argued against that. BPF: Nice backpedaling. I died from that almost as much as from "walls are infrastructure" argument.
By the amount of cigarettes that Andrew went through in this entire debate, I don't believe he will live long enough to see those multitudes of grandchildren that Rachel was talking about. Lol.
@@automata. What exactly are you calling Trump a hypocrite for? As I understand it. Trump doesn't like international business taking advantage of America. He has no issue with America taking advantage of international business. As long as Amercia doesn't get the short end of the stick he doesn't care.
Patriotism: supporting the values of your country and holding your country accountable for those value Nationalism: loyalty to your country regardless of it's principles
Thats not the same definition that nationalists would use to describe themselves. Actually it would be almost the same as your definition of patriotism.
I’m getting annoyed by the amount of people who have no freaking clue what “nationalism” is. Here’s an ACTUAL definition of nationalism: identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.
Can we please give a token of recognition to Bastiat? He's well spoken, has great presence, knows his stuff and has an amazing head of hair that refuses to bald. This bridge better be made of steel
Destiny and Bastiat know exactly where they agree and disagree. Plus, they dont have a personal relationship. They'll be fine. The problem Destiny had with Vaush, Hassan, and Trihex was he felt they were leeching off of him. He revealed this recently where he sees them as people that got buddy/buddy, then turned on him once they established their own TH-cam presence. While I dont know if this is completely true, I will say I have seen both Vaush and Hasan shit talking Destiny. The things they used to like about him seem to turn them off.
I remember watching a fox news segment where they went around New York asking Muslim residents if they believed in sharia law over American law. The talking heads shook their heads in disgust and then - without skipping a beat - switched to Kim Davis in Kentucky and praised her for taking a stand against gay marriage and following her religious beliefs.
It was democratic for white people. If you don't have to consider anyone else's problems, life has always been better for white people. Racism and prejudice means more than money for racist people. Imagine opening a business and not wanted to have every single customer you can get?!?! It's dumb as hell!!
It helps to look at it in comparison to where they came from, England, and the rule of kings by birthright. When the declaration of independence says "all men are created equal" that's more referring to the idea that no man is divinely appointed by God to be king, and that anyone can be president. Like Phanatic said, though, this was only referring to white people, for all the various historic justifications for racism that we already know about. As for Jim Crow laws, that's just because it's still coming off the back of that long history. So short answer: these people weren't just somehow ignoring a blatant contradiction, rather they viewed that imbalance in rights as justified, and ordained by god in some cases.
@@phanatic215 The government instituted Jim Crow and enforced it, not businesses. You think the average business in highly population black areas didn't want more customers? Not a god damn chance. So they did indeed want every customer they could get but were not allowed to access the black population. Past wealth generation is largely irrelevant, however, if we're discussing inequality today, given the fact that wealth is often lost within a single generation and the vast majority of individuals in the middle class achieved that within one or two generations. Most Asian people immigrating to North America come with almost nothing and build wealth within a single generation. Damn that white supremacy, eh?
@@mikesmith542 I'm also going to need a link on that Asian demographic. Preferably stats that actually break down Asians by countries instead of some homogenous entity.
“I find it interesting that Conservatives claim to be for individual liberties and personal freedoms, and then tell people they can’t do sex work if they freely choose to do so at a legal age.” I was actually thinking the same thing. Right wingers love to talk about how they are the side of freedom and individual liberty, but we have two right wingers that want to make it illegal for two consensual adults have sex for money and maybe even crack down on porn.
Not only that, but their views on globalism is contrary to any “freedom and liberty” appeals they make. People who pose no threat to us should have the freedom to sort themselves economically. That is the ultimate expression of freedom and liberty. You can’t say you’re in favor for freedom and liberty while simultaneously restricting everyone’s freedom and liberty to move, live, and work where they please purely on the basis of skin color and ‘culture’.
Well to be fair there’s an argument than sex for money can easily be a form of exploitation, particularly for poorer women who would not really have the choice. That really blurs the idea of “consent” being involved and just makes it creepy and sad as fuck
Who knew that those guys that played Age of Empires and built one hundred walls around their base while they slowly died were actually infrastructure GODS
@@danoco6385 Man, come on. He can't even exist on twitch. He is not even in the arena, all he has to do is step into it. I too would like them to talk again, it was very civil the last time. I never sensed this animosity between them yet here you are being a weird fan boi about some political streamers. Grow up.
Arguments for sex work and porn between both parties. The left: I think we should legalize and regulate a practice that many do and like (pay for sex) and keep it legal (porn) so that we can make it safer as well as maintain that freedom. The right: It’s ikky and its gross, and I don’t like it! Ban it.
Destiny really doesn't put any thought into building up the working class. Saying just go to college is not a fix. If every person in the country went to college the problem wouldn't be fixed. There wouldn't be enough jobs for all of the graduates. Not everyone has the capability of going to college for financial reasons among others. His opinion is no different than the conservatives saying pull yourself up by your bootstraps. You can't say people don't try when the majority of people are on the poverty line in this country. I really don't get it.
This is the least Christian “homeschooled Christian mother” I have ever listened to. Real mature Christians don’t swear like this, they don’t act like this, and they CERTAINLY do not think of other of God’s children the way that she does. I truly hope she finds a true connection with God beyond the surface level political bullshit that she’s been taught probably since the beginning of her upbringing
@@peppyhare6434 That he, Andrew, somehow wants an imperial nation by having a functioning border and stopping foreign influence. Kinda aged poorly to boot hahahaha
Big Papa Fascist seems more “zi” than “bol” Edit: This comment no longer makes sense to most, but the original title of this video was something like “Debating a Nazbol and his wife”
Destiny when talking about Andrew Tate : " I know hes a sex trafficker cuz he said so" Destiny on Joe Biden: " he might have said he withheld aid from Ukraine but theres no reason to beleive he did" This is pretty blatantly bad faith , in a debate destiny was easily winning anyways....
That was on purpose tho, everytime they were doing it rough she would come in, derail, and get a solid 1-2 minutes of uninterrupted rhetoric pumped right into our feeds
Man this dude really lives in his own little world, a reality where you just make up wild shit on a subject without any evidence or knowledge on that topic, and think that is an acceptable way to discuss anything.
BPF's hatred of lobbying puts him outside his concept of our culture living thru "the constitutional prizm". He needs to be careful, he might argue himself out of existence.
That would be awesome and super respectable not many humans are capable of loving one another like that anymore. Also better than being with the Wh*res who have 20 bodies by the time their 20 hahaha.
Lmao 1:28:00 Actual automation engineer here. I've got higher education and it's not even me who builds the robots. It requires an immense amount of knowledge that goes into designing (never mind building) equipment. A PLC, a VFD, any old controller, actually -- I may "design" the way the parts will cooperate together, but it's ridiculous to say "I build the robots, actually." Sometimes it's not even me who writes the programs for the equipment. I'm a glorified lego builder and my job requires 2 degrees. 0 chance this guy does what he says he does. Dunning-Kruger in full display here.
1:28:01 - wrong. Car manufacturers and service centers that use robots/computers/etc are serviced by IT teams of college educated people. Anyone in the automobile industry knows that.
"Do building have walls, guess they're part of infrastructure" That's possibly...the dumbest fkn thing I've heard someone say in a real long time. There no way pigbapa is serious...
@@danoco6385 are we looking back that far back for a W? There are plenty of right people that lose debates. Christopher Hitchens lost a couple of religious debates even though he's objectively correct. A debate is a rhetoric battle. Not the arbitration of truth. Go impress yourself elsewhere
The dumbest one I hear from this crowd is "Aha, you say it is wrong to mistreat illegal immigrants, and yet you would allow them in so that I can mistreat them. Are you not being a hypocrite?"
@@danoco6385 I probably did back then. I dont even remember if I agreed with him then or do now. You're just snitching on yourself by saying you hate watch destiny more than I even like him. And thats your problem not mine.
Have to say this conversation greatly improved my impression of the US high school education. I didn't know they taught how to build industrial automation and high level AI in the American high schools so effectively.
Destiny’s counter was partly right, but he presented it really badly, especially when he mocked BPF. I’ve worked with Fanuc robots and you can teach them pretty easily. This is where BFP is sorta right; you just walk the bot through each step and hit save. Servicing machines is also teachable to someone with a HS degree and an on the job training cycle. However, Destiny is right in that a robot properly implemented does the work of multiple people, and you need engineers to design them and often times fix them. Field engineering is a big sector. And BPF let servicing and teach robots go to his head and think he builds them. It’s like a Jiffy Lube tech saying he builds F150s
I was really afraid that bastiat would get all preachy and stuff. I’m really glad he kept his composure. Makes him look infinitely more appealing than his cringe holier than thou performance he sometimes makes.
@37:25 The whole mask mandate thing is so petty. It’s literally the difference between “no shirt, no shoes, no service” and “no shirt, no shoes, _no mask_ , no service” You really don’t need the government’s permission to tell you how to fight the spread of a pathogen.
No. He blieves that the media has an incentive to cover corruption and any corruption evidence would be in the media, not just unsubstantiated claims on social media.
Lolol BPF’s wife: “where’s my representation?” I’m positive you’ll find your representation in that island made of actual trash. Now you can start your own nation.
That’s actually incorrect. For everyone to have been immigrants there would have had to have been a nation for immigrants to come to in the first place. America was settled by mostly English settlers. Then slowly a small agreeable amount of immigrants mostly from Western Europe were allowed in. With heavy discrimination in order to keep the majority makeup of the country stable. Until the laws changed, allowing an ever increasing amount annually of different racial and ethnic groups.
Most conservatives have these kinds of insecurities. They never seem to have grown beyond that stage in their life. It's why so many waste so much time fantasizing about killing or shooting someone trespassing or fighting with them so hard. They get to imagine themselves actually winning something and reclaiming their missing sense of manhood. Literally no different then kids shooting each other with magic bolts or playing army or w/e across the school bus aisles.
Destiny really shined through in the second half of this debate, and he had moments throughout the first half where I wholeheartedly agreed with him. Big Papa Fascist was absolutely terrible at hashing out what makes a policy "nationalistic." Where he did succeed though, was by arguing that we tend to be heavily invested in a constitutional lens, to lean heavily on constitutional liberties (even if most of us tend to cherry pick the liberties we like best), and to advocate for amendments or repeals as well as revisions to the way we interpret our laws. Destiny opened by arguing that we're governed by a body of laws and could simply have conceded that we litigate through a constitutional or federalist framework. One of the places where you see a particularly stark difference is if you compare us to the UK. As much as Sargon bangs on about free speech, at the end of the day, he turned his nose up at the idea of a British constitution. He sees Americans as too litigious and he worries a bill of rights would have an adverse effect on the British people. Given that the UK's communications act allows you to be arrested for mean tweets, this is utterly insane to me. That said, I gotta say, Big Papa Fascist and Madame Karen were a perfect example of so much that I hate about the religious right. "We're not puritanical, but we believe in a government that arrests people for producing porn and heavily regulates what fetishes you can indulge in online. Also anyone who objects is a filthy degenerate." These folks can take a long walk off a short pier.
Destiny and Bastiat debates BigPapaFascist and his wife... Part Two ( th-cam.com/video/poz4OjAVKaQ/w-d-xo.html )
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Additional Timestamps Click▼
0:00 - Teasers/Intro
0:58 - Debate introductions and openings
1:54 - BigPapaFasc opening
5:05 - Bastiat opening
8:36 - Destiny's opening
10:08 - Wife attacks Bastiat, they're not neocons, Bastiat responds
14:55 - Arbitrary roadblocks
18:40 - What is nationalism and what is a nation?
21:08 - Culture angle, constitution prism
28:01 - Nationalism vs patriotism, Biden vs Trump
33:00 - Infrastructure, wall on the border
41:17 - Constitution prism, religious prism, unifying prism
50:39 - Foreign lobbying
59:27 - Foreign aid, relations, US interest
1:03:34 - Nobody supports corruption, lobbying is bribing?
1:11:56 - Bite the bullet and say 'yes', the Chinese government is corrupt
1:14:13 - Policies that are protective of domestic organisations
1:20:14 - "As a mother..."
1:24:28 - Why women hold the majority of student debt
1:28:17 - BigPapaFascist builds the robots
1:33:32 - Q&A, how is it possible to have common culture?
1:37:05 - Nationalism slippery slope
1:40:40 - Remittance, brain drain, send back talent?
1:44:03 - Border security measures, constitution prism
1:46:27 - Every country practices nationalism, curious
1:49:15 - Israel lobbying
1:52:13 - People are the same then why do they immigrate to US?
Destiny stop running
That title change shows you are evolving as a person and commentator. Good job.
All I learned from this debate is that we need to sterilize fascists
“Do houses have walls? Well I guess the wall is infrastructure then.” Wow. By that logic, “Do Americans have arms and legs? I guess Mexicans are Americans then.”
@@Stabby666 they make Steven Crowder look like U'Tant
D: A nation is mainly about laws.
F: NO, it's about culture!
D: What bit of culture?
F: The culture of following that nation's laws!
Nicklas Luhmann. I would start with his book Trust and Power
A nation is a collective that negates stronger against an outgroup than internally when competing for the same resources.
In the modern context this happens along racial lines mostly
@@niceguy2527 no, it doesn't. Only white supremacist think like that everyone is well normal
@@lubu2960 lmao sure, skin colour and race is the first thing people will notice about you
@Anton Rutfors it is a feature sure, ingroup morality is applied to keep the nation stable and the effects of identity negation are lessened due to our temporary state of "post scarcity" but it's not only it's laws.
"Do buildings have walls?" fucking killed me
Between that and a hard defense of souls should disqualify him from being a debatebro holy shit (no pun)
The best part is he thinks he’s funny. The nervous laughs are hilarious.
@C Parton because it doesn’t provide anything for the citizens of the country. No working class person would want a wall over better roads, better healthcare , better education.
Great laugh response too
@C Parton Even for those people who want to sacrifice our economy to keep the mexicans out, the wall is a garbage idea because it doesn't do any of the things you want to any significant degree. That's what makes it objectively stupid instead of "just an idea i disagree with".
This homeschooled trad wife has the knowledge and acumen of a homeschooled trad wife.
AS A MOTHER
@@ihateyou8006 Tell your children not to walk my way
Tell your children not to hear my words
What they mean
What they say
Mother
Color me shocked.
I used to be cuntish about homeschooled people too, but Ive learned its a huge gradient, especially outside of America. Even locally I know some kids that were a part of a homeschool co-op during the lockdown and now that they're back in public school, some of them are a full 2 years ahead of the curriculum. It's like they went back to school with cheat codes
@@anon6181 all depends on the goals of this co-op. Most homeschooled people are very individualistic as in this is just my family. Not a group of families that come together. I'd like to know more about how it was set up. Were multiple families involved, were the parents teachers themselves, did they hire tutors, etc?
"Papa Fascist, and Based Homeschooled Wife"
Hell is not sending their best.
Be easy on Karen, she is losing her country...
@@jmw611 losing her Custody*
@@craniumssuperburger7749 Custody of reality?
@@jmw611 lol I have no sympathy for someone that publicically and knowingly called for "national populism"
@@space0ctopus647 "Ism’s, in my opinion, are not good. A person should not believe in an ‘ism,’ he should believe in himself."
-Ferris Bueller
PapaFascist's responses: "That makes no sense" "That's irrelevant" "That's not what I meant" "So?"
10/10 excellent debate
Bro look, I don't know if you realize this but I was homeschooled, I literally got all my foundation, my entire world-view from one person, my mom bro so I dunno why you coming off as such a know-it-all /troll
@@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965 are you a Christian conservative who believes in national populism and goes by the name "big papa fascist" and is married to a homeschooled woman named Rachel? If not, that comment wasn't meant for you
@@mohammadkayed7780 the best content is debating home schooled idiots, really moves the dialogue forward doesn't it? Constantly having to address common morons?
Destiny and Bastiat look like a happier couple than these two.
Then his Divorce with Vaush must be permanent if he has moved on to Bastiat. He has finally let Vaush go, I'm proud of Steven
@@tripledigit4835 but the sexual chemistry was undeniable with Vaush
Turns out Destiny is more than just poly as it pertains to romantic relationships but also debate partners.
@@markharrison6498 Uplifting.
@@mroctober3583 He basically needs to be Booksmarts and act almost like a 3rd opponent. He needs to point out what Destiny has over looked or failed at communicating.
"Vaccines are bad and divisive!"
Proceeds to chainsmoke for the entire debate
Lol. My coworker did the same thing. "I'm not putting that poison in my body" as he is hungover from drinking the night before and lighting up a cigarette.
I could make the same argument about leftists. "If you don’t get a vaccine you're putting other people in danger" or "not wearing a mask puts others in danger" all while promoting obesity as body positivity 🤣
@@basquegrand8982 My interpretation of what your saying. Liberals should shame obese people so the have a negative body view and then they will lose weight and be more physically healthy.
@@basquegrand8982 overweight Is not the same as obese and obesity is not infectious
@@hvmetalwarmonger178 your interpretation of what I’m saying is stupid. What I’m saying is don’t pretend to give a shit about peoples health and at the same time act as if being obese is healthy.
Destiny: Give me an example
Facist: *Gives bad example*
Destiny: Thats a bad example
Facist: So? you asked for an example
Debate tactics.
-Give me an example
-Ur mom!
-Shit...
He was actually not wrong in this.
An example of a nationalistic policy was requested and one was provided. Whether that policy in practice is effective or not was not of any relevance, it only needed to sufficiently characterise what a nationalist policy would take the form of.
@@Mw345012 so you agree it’s a shit policy?
@@robertallen9570 I don't know. I just know that it was a flawed critique.
As a service technician who fixes robots - BPF doesn't do what he thinks he does. There is a major difference between service techs who handle minor breakdowns and follow LITERAL IKEA LIKE INSTRUCTIONS to build and disassemble robots, and service techs who handle major breakdowns, manage construction of those systems and oversee and train the lower tier service techs. What he says he does requires an engineering degree in either mechatronics, mechanics or electronics. What he actually does requires some kind of certificate IV/diploma in mechatronics.
Thought so. I was curious so I was googling around but I could only manage to find job listings where an engineering degree was required. I guess he was proudly bragging to his wife that he was The Engineer (tm)
based. That "do you know what a servo is" $200 jeopardy question was a dead give away, imo. My 10 yo niece who went to one robotics summer camp knows what a servo is.
Underrated comment.
as someone with 2 degrees in Mechanics ;-)
@@oniflrog4487 oh nice! I'm still on my way to get my eng undergrad in mechanical at the moment.
@@evanbyrne7020
Kudos for putting into words the issue in BPF's argument. I was cringing the whole time during his last debate with Destiny, because expressing why he has no idea of what he's saying takes just so much time and one might sound like an elitist asshole. I don't think I have the rhetorical skills to put it into words xD
Good luck with that undergrad! I'm going for the PhD as we speak :-)
It's sad that this guy convinced his wife to come on so he looks smarter by comparison.
It's sad that his wife thinks that them being referred as, "mr. and mrs. fascist", online isn't embarrassing
It’s even sadder that she’s still no where near as dumb as he is
Homeschooling..... in action
She's on this show all the time.
but the constitution.... lmao
lol equivocation on "wall" and "infrastructure" is about the most bottom-tier argument you can make. Debate this guy over and over.
Farming bot lane irl
He has and destiny got crushed every time
@@brendanmassie9586 BPF has not once crushed Destiny. He barely understands what he's talking about. Unless you're already predisposed to agree with him, I have no clue how anyone in their right mind can find anything Big Papa Fascist says compelling.
@@ThePurplemaneater yes he did. He got wrecked in their debate about equality. Destiny has no understanding of how classical logic and argumentation works.
Destiny :"What is common between All Americans? "
Papa : " Well Americans are united by being American , which is very American, viewed from the prism of being American, protected by American laws and ... "
@Kyle Kyle uh oh kyle kyle is mad
@@Bloodnickel1 he seems a bit upsetty spaghetti.
What is common between all Americans? I can't think of anything other than the English language so far and that's not counting those that weren't born here. Because we're such a mesh of everything, it is hard to find one common thing among all of us unless by common you mean that not everybody has this in common but most do. If we include every single American then I hope the English language. You probably can't even say school cause some kids probably never attended any sort of education ever, you'd probably find a crazy case like that.
The question should be "what SHOULD be common between all Americans?" Then we can provide many answers like Christianity, tradition, language, nationalism, white skin.
KIDDING ABOUT THAT LAST ONE!
@@Ash-jm3pd watched 26 minutes of it and I'm done. These people can't argue for shit. They should stop doing debates forever cause they're not made for it no matter how much they practice. I'm sick of incompetent right wingers being unable to even decently argue their positions. Who are these people anyway? They're not good orators; probably couldn't even do a good speech about anything. Couldn't even present an idea properly. I feel like a lot of people try to get into debates but not many are good at them. These shouldn't be the people defending our positions. It looks like it's easy to get idiots or inexperienced people to do this shit these days. I feel like I'm watching Ben Shapiro (left wing version) debating college students (right wing version.) These people should keep their views, vote, donate, attend rallies but please stay the fuck away from trying to represent our views in debates.
@Kyle Kyle
urgo burgo kyle no like brungo
"Do buildings have walls" needs to be a sub notification. LMFAO holy shit.
i really wish they could be honest when they say "culture" because everyone knows that culture is not some immutable genetics, you can learn a different culture, cultures even change over time. if culture is an unchanging part of you that must destroy the other cultures to survive...... you might not be talking about "culture" at all.
@@Skippymabob True. Everything as small as family dinner is way different by culture.
You know what's really weird? It's incredibly hard to define. Not many people even attempt it. It's an over encompassing everything and nothing. You can easily say culture is the humanity of a nation and wouldn't be wrong. And in the same breath you could say there are wildly different cultures in a nation. It's literally a meme word that we use to describe the difference in the humanities area for *everything*. Scary when you really think about it.
Because different races develop different cultures so to stay genes have nothing to with culture is stupid. There’s a reason why different races haven’t developed the same culture. Just because anyone can adopt a culture, doesn’t mean cultures don’t come into existence based upon who is creating them. Culture didn’t exist before people, people have to create them first. Black culture is nothing like Asian culture, Arab culture is nothing like Eastern European culture, so on and so fourth.
@@mastermoose8390 there's everything genetic about it. There's literally nothing human beings do that isn't involved genetically, humans are biological. Your genes play a role in anything you do.
@@mastermoose8390 because it is major. You don’t exist without genes.
"Destiny do buildings have walls" is right up there with "Do you like black people?"
Also the tone from bpf when he told his wife she was muted makes me think things aren't so nice in that household
@@Bozomine I got that vibe too. Caught me off guard really.
amazing
@@tannerw.1239 i must've missed that, timestamp pls?
DO YOU LUH BLACC PEEPO?
Big Papa Lung Cancer never fails to entertain
@@danoco6385 Destiny bi sexual boys lmao the conservative projection cope
@@danoco6385 Ryan Dawson's, "We know Hillary is bad on foreign policy so let's try Trump and see what happens", take in that debate, didn't age well either and comparitavely between the two. No one wants to talk to Ryan so what exactly did he win?
@@danoco6385 I would hope someone is paying you to spam that comment all over
@@danoco6385 COPE
Who the fuck is Ryan dawson?
"DO BUILDINGS HAVE WALLS?!? THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT! Gottem."
I'm gonna kms
LMAO. I cant wait to listen to this later. I died on that intro
His IQ has gone beyond the negatives and has imploded into a super entity that has consumed all in it's vicinity, he has now become a hyper enlightened being with the accumulated IQ of all intelligent life in the solar system.
BURNNN! 0_o
this was the worst failed attempt at a gotcha that i've ever heard
“With people of their own Destiny…”
Narrator- Hey, that’s the name of the show!
Nah, it’s the name of a cute girl
There are dozens of us who understood this reference! DOZENS!
@@Marqrk *black girl
I see somebody watches cosmonaut
Conservative: "AMERICA FIRST"
Me: "Cool! So we gonna work on bettering the lives of American citizens?"
Conservative: "NO, THAT'S COMMUNISM"
You should make your own life better. Not charity from others.
@45 fottuto stronzo charity is anything you don’t work yourself to get. Which is all you listed. If you have a job 99% of the time you will have health insurance. I don’t believe Germany McDonald’s pays that much sounds like bs. It’s not even how much you make is the problem. It’s how expensive things are. From inflation and money printing.
@@bumblebeetuna443 no, it's the opposite. You should make the lives of other better, not engage in harmful individualism
@@lubu2960 American First means to make your country better. By default you will. But that’s doesn’t me you should steal from others.
@@bumblebeetuna443 america first is a vague political slogan that means nothing. There's no stealing.
You do gotta love Bastiat's ability to just go on dramatic soliloquies.
He used to do it on secondlife too, when hw was sex pestering furries in DMs for nudes etc.
Oh yeah, bastiat was a weirdo btw. "Caine Cosntantine" was his name there.
When muslims do it's unamerican. but when americans do it it's american... because they're american.
wut?
muslim is a nationality
@@billieeisenhower406 muslim is an everything
@Nick Bacigalupo Fine. Explain the high level nuance of BPF in that discussion
@Nick Bacigalupo So why is he so mad about sharia law when Christians do the same thing. It doesnt matter if he denounces it when hes freaking out about sharia law (a non issue) in the first place
@Nick Bacigalupo How does Muslim countries being oppressive relate to Muslims living in the US?
I love that the "evidence" of foreign lobbying affecting US policy is a US politician supposedly asserting influence on another nation...
The "as a mother" line killed me lol as if that gives you a qualified perspective on foreign policy ????
ITS ONLY BAD WHEN $HILLERY DOES IT!
Hillary is a highly educated lawyer not just a hoisewife
@@mushpurple what part of the bar exam covers the nuances of foreign policy?
This feels like a parody of a parody. Like, I still don't believe these are real people...
I actually work with these exact same people only in reverse. The husband is homeschooled and disconnected. He is so out of touch with reality one of my coworkers who is black was joking about robbing us while working in the city and this guy said he would gather up the clan to take care of things. For a fact he was not talking The Klan he just meant his church. These people are out of touch
Like, right? Like, I cant even articulate one point they made, cuz I dont pay attention to ideas that aren't pre determined to my preference.
Yeah destiny is pretty deluded
@@VeggiesOutFront home schooling should be regulated out of existence.
@@fancynecrosi1848 I disagree. There are people who's lifestyles require home education. I also believe the current system does not adequately prepare children for their futures. Instead we should be expanding self guided education options for children no matter the circumstances including providing updated and relevant online sources of knowledge. Giving people more options to suit their lifestyle will provide a better outcome in the end. Not everyone is the same or even living close to the same lives and trying to force people into smaller bubbles won't help anything, in my opinion of course
I cant believe he debated A Christian Nazbol And His Homeschooled Wife
Instead of debating me… I’m hurt
@@TariqNasheed117 Hey Tariq, how was your day?
@@TariqNasheed117 I’m a huge fan, I especially loved when you owned that guy Jared Taylor in that debate
it's true he debated A Christian Nazbol And His Homeschooled Wife
FAX THO!
Destiny needs to coop more with Bastiat, he's a hero
I was Christian homeschooled in the bible belt, but I escaped and I'm fine now! #NotAllHomeschoolers
Same here but I went into college super behind in English. Learned a lot about Jesus tho lol
@@TrentonF505 I was great in English, but had to take remedial math in college. Graduated with 4.0, but it wasn't easy
Same here was behind in some subjects, ahead in others the thing I found the most difficult to shake or unlearn was the evangelical Christian programming which colored my opinions for decades before I found a way out
@@johnpap Yeah same here, it really took moving away from my family for my psyche to be willing to challenge certain things. Congrats on getting out
At least you didn't get K-12. They suck too. At least with homeschooling you can find and dream for ways to escape. I wish I was homeschooled because at least it would give a motive to leave my terrible family.
I lost in when she said "if you care about the power grid then you should build the wall"
Makes me wanna pull my hair out.
Worst part is the argument makes sense, but she argued it in the worst way, false surety and foolishness
@@fungdark8270 please elaborate.
@@fungdark8270 Her argument would make sense if her premises were true, but alleging that there are so many immigrants "flooding" into the country that it puts a massive unpredicted strain on our power system is just fucking absurd.
@@McClain3000 If there are far more people than the census shows, and than interim stats show, funding may be harder to get because although the population may be X, the books show X - 5%
This isn’t a reason to block immigration and focus solely on “the wall,” rather evidence of the urgency of the issue.
We need the undocumented here to have a pathway to citizenship and SOMEHOW get the immigration system going in the right direction, but leaving the border as it is isn’t an option.
People are paying $10k to be trafficked to and/or over the border by people often time associated with the cartels.
This is just not good, and pretending that leaving the border as is is “compassion” is just sick.
@@zacharychristy8928 It’s not “the reason” it failed, but having “invisible” residents isn’t good, there was recently in Austin/Travis county a push to educate people that the census isn’t going to get them in trouble and that they NEED to participate for the reason mentioned.
"Does building have walls, Destiny?"
And with that question, Destiny had been owned in the free market place of ideas
Wait isn't the dude who's arguing alongside Destiny the one who was stuck on coconut island with Vaush?
He’s a cutie pie ❤️
Who did what he had to, to get those coconuts...
He never did get those coconuts, did he
@@AnthonyCheeseborough sure hope he didnt
@@jamesthecoolguy67 He did what he had to, it wasn't coercion
smh destiny you couldn't help yourself with the woman-doing-stuff-in-the-background debate tactics
Destiny also used the blue eyes, and color changing light debate tactic.
At least he wasn’t eating pizza this time.
Is tht his gf she looks like a red haired
BPF: You want no borders!
Destiny: Actually, i think we need borders and some immigration control, like green cards.
Homeschooled brain: Well at least we agree in something.
1 hour later
BPF: Destiny literally said that borders are just imaginary lines.
Destiny: Lol i literally argued against that.
BPF: Nice backpedaling.
I died from that almost as much as from "walls are infrastructure" argument.
By the amount of cigarettes that Andrew went through in this entire debate, I don't believe he will live long enough to see those multitudes of grandchildren that Rachel was talking about. Lol.
I wish he would have not had the children, forget about the grandchildren. But I guess at least his kids might be able to run away
I don't always agree with destiny but God damn I appreciate the discourse. I feel like I'd lose it having this stupid of a debate.
“The issue with debating idiots is that they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience”
@@urDAsellsAVON99 unless you're destiny
This entire debate
BPF and/or his wife: says X
Destiny and Bastiat: *Responds to X*
BPF and/or his wife: "I didn't say that"
Why does no one ever mention that Trump is an international corporation? It’s literally called Trump Corporation…
Why is it relevant?
@@basquegrand8982 Hypocrisy. Rules for thee but not for me.
@@lukaswithakay both sides do this.
@@basquegrand8982 sounds like some enlightened centrism to me. It is a far greater issue in the right wing
@@automata. What exactly are you calling Trump a hypocrite for? As I understand it. Trump doesn't like international business taking advantage of America. He has no issue with America taking advantage of international business. As long as Amercia doesn't get the short end of the stick he doesn't care.
Patriotism: supporting the values of your country and holding your country accountable for those value
Nationalism: loyalty to your country regardless of it's principles
Civic nationalism is best
Thats not the same definition that nationalists would use to describe themselves. Actually it would be almost the same as your definition of patriotism.
nationalisms equals brain rot
I’m getting annoyed by the amount of people who have no freaking clue what “nationalism” is. Here’s an ACTUAL definition of nationalism:
identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.
@@bobbyhill1110Okay? Those people can and are wrong. Words change overtime.
No BPF, putting together Bionicles isn’t programming robots.
Can we please give a token of recognition to Bastiat? He's well spoken, has great presence, knows his stuff and has an amazing head of hair that refuses to bald.
This bridge better be made of steel
Destiny and Bastiat know exactly where they agree and disagree. Plus, they dont have a personal relationship. They'll be fine. The problem Destiny had with Vaush, Hassan, and Trihex was he felt they were leeching off of him. He revealed this recently where he sees them as people that got buddy/buddy, then turned on him once they established their own TH-cam presence. While I dont know if this is completely true, I will say I have seen both Vaush and Hasan shit talking Destiny. The things they used to like about him seem to turn them off.
HIS BALLS ARE.
I remember watching a fox news segment where they went around New York asking Muslim residents if they believed in sharia law over American law. The talking heads shook their heads in disgust and then - without skipping a beat - switched to Kim Davis in Kentucky and praised her for taking a stand against gay marriage and following her religious beliefs.
Republicans are basically in favour of a Christian theocracy
@@-47- some of them admit as such.
Does right wing host Todd ever say literally anything? Why does he exist?
How have Americans convinced themselves that they were a truly democratic nation during the times that slavery and Jim Crow existed?
It was democratic for white people. If you don't have to consider anyone else's problems, life has always been better for white people. Racism and prejudice means more than money for racist people. Imagine opening a business and not wanted to have every single customer you can get?!?! It's dumb as hell!!
It helps to look at it in comparison to where they came from, England, and the rule of kings by birthright.
When the declaration of independence says "all men are created equal" that's more referring to the idea that no man is divinely appointed by God to be king, and that anyone can be president. Like Phanatic said, though, this was only referring to white people, for all the various historic justifications for racism that we already know about.
As for Jim Crow laws, that's just because it's still coming off the back of that long history.
So short answer: these people weren't just somehow ignoring a blatant contradiction, rather they viewed that imbalance in rights as justified, and ordained by god in some cases.
@@phanatic215 The government instituted Jim Crow and enforced it, not businesses. You think the average business in highly population black areas didn't want more customers? Not a god damn chance. So they did indeed want every customer they could get but were not allowed to access the black population.
Past wealth generation is largely irrelevant, however, if we're discussing inequality today, given the fact that wealth is often lost within a single generation and the vast majority of individuals in the middle class achieved that within one or two generations. Most Asian people immigrating to North America come with almost nothing and build wealth within a single generation. Damn that white supremacy, eh?
@@mikesmith542 can you post me some links to that Asian wealth generation?
@@mikesmith542 I'm also going to need a link on that Asian demographic. Preferably stats that actually break down Asians by countries instead of some homogenous entity.
“I find it interesting that Conservatives claim to be for individual liberties and personal freedoms, and then tell people they can’t do sex work if they freely choose to do so at a legal age.”
I was actually thinking the same thing. Right wingers love to talk about how they are the side of freedom and individual liberty, but we have two right wingers that want to make it illegal for two consensual adults have sex for money and maybe even crack down on porn.
And then they wonder why there are so many Incels!
Define "adult" otherwise it is bad faith. Could range from 15-30
Not only that, but their views on globalism is contrary to any “freedom and liberty” appeals they make. People who pose no threat to us should have the freedom to sort themselves economically. That is the ultimate expression of freedom and liberty. You can’t say you’re in favor for freedom and liberty while simultaneously restricting everyone’s freedom and liberty to move, live, and work where they please purely on the basis of skin color and ‘culture’.
@@danzamnit3008 How many conservative states have legalized prostitution?
Well to be fair there’s an argument than sex for money can easily be a form of exploitation, particularly for poorer women who would not really have the choice. That really blurs the idea of “consent” being involved and just makes it creepy and sad as fuck
My lord. Papa literally contradicts himself every other sentence.
yeah? like what?
disliking this comment cause i cringed when u called him 'papa'
Who knew that those guys that played Age of Empires and built one hundred walls around their base while they slowly died were actually infrastructure GODS
This is accurate
LMAO this reminded me of when i was about to lose and just built nothing but walls around my town center. might as well waste they time.
>Pick black forest.
>Turtle
WHY DOES HE HAVE ALL THE GOLD AND STONE MINERALS AND 2 AGES ON ME?
@@danoco6385 Man, come on. He can't even exist on twitch. He is not even in the arena, all he has to do is step into it. I too would like them to talk again, it was very civil the last time. I never sensed this animosity between them yet here you are being a weird fan boi about some political streamers. Grow up.
Arguments for sex work and porn between both parties.
The left: I think we should legalize and regulate a practice that many do and like (pay for sex) and keep it legal (porn) so that we can make it safer as well as maintain that freedom.
The right: It’s ikky and its gross, and I don’t like it! Ban it.
Destiny isn't left
@@Toxic-th4si destiny voted for Biden, is Biden not left too?
@@Toxic-th4si He's to left of the spectrum on a lot of issues, including this one
@@user-wu1us1yh3n Biden is a liberal who's pro Capitalism so is Destiny
"Think a-about t-t-the CHILDREN!!!"
Oh I remember her, she was down in the comments of the Papa Fascist debate with Vaush coping hard
Is he the "all former minimum wage McDonald's employees will just end up maintaining the order kiosks"-dude?
@@kevlon_ yeah, that's the one
"I don't want our policy being based..." ALLEGEDLY "Based" Homeschool Mom
Buildings do have walls tho...
@@parsifal2299 But do they have souls? 🤔
@@parsifal2299 Roofs are where it's at
@@parsifal2299 fuck she got me there
@@fabiobalassia "infrastructure is when when you biuld roofs"
BPF: YOU WANT OPEN BORDERS
D: This* is what I want
BPF: THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE OPEN BORDERS YOU TWAT.
swing and a miss, BPF... swing and a miss.
"the nation is not just legislation, it's primarily culture, like the constitution!"
Todd really showing off his red pill dominance by doing literally nothing the whole debate.
That’s pretty much every debate he’s a part of lol
Destiny really doesn't put any thought into building up the working class. Saying just go to college is not a fix. If every person in the country went to college the problem wouldn't be fixed. There wouldn't be enough jobs for all of the graduates. Not everyone has the capability of going to college for financial reasons among others. His opinion is no different than the conservatives saying pull yourself up by your bootstraps. You can't say people don't try when the majority of people are on the poverty line in this country. I really don't get it.
This is the least Christian “homeschooled Christian mother” I have ever listened to. Real mature Christians don’t swear like this, they don’t act like this, and they CERTAINLY do not think of other of God’s children the way that she does. I truly hope she finds a true connection with God beyond the surface level political bullshit that she’s been taught probably since the beginning of her upbringing
People are just not familiar with the difference between being pious and being a good person.
The type of Christianity is one where her type of Christianity is what determines the laws in the USA. Her type is very scary.
@@amandagarcia2848 her type is absolutely terrifying I agree. It ignores all of the teachings in Romans about how followers of Jesus ought to act
@@Timhttrsn the two should be synonymous
"I don't want an imperial nation, I want.... continues to describe an imperial nation.
@@natediaz1863 you really replying to a comment from 2 years ago. Touch grass mate
@peppyhare6434
Well it was wrong 2 years ago, it's wrong now.
And now we have millions of illegals because of open borders hahah
@@CraftyMiscreant what is wrong?
@@peppyhare6434
That he, Andrew, somehow wants an imperial nation by having a functioning border and stopping foreign influence.
Kinda aged poorly to boot hahahaha
@CraftyMiscreant I bet you are upset that Trump blocked the most conservative border bill in decades?
I have never heard of BPF before. God I’m sad it didn’t stay that way.
Big Papa Fascist seems more “zi” than “bol”
Edit: This comment no longer makes sense to most, but the original title of this video was something like “Debating a Nazbol and his wife”
Big Papa Female gets Mickey Mouse debate wins, but once he goes up against big dogs like me, Destiny, Vaush & Infrared, he gets smoked.
@@TariqNasheed117 so true
could you explain your joke, I don't get it immediately
@@pigofchrist5738 title had the word nazbol in it
@@TariqNasheed117 is it buck breaking if i go down on my white wife? serious question
Destiny when talking about Andrew Tate : " I know hes a sex trafficker cuz he said so"
Destiny on Joe Biden: " he might have said he withheld aid from Ukraine but theres no reason to beleive he did"
This is pretty blatantly bad faith , in a debate destiny was easily winning anyways....
38:30 Here's the "do buildings have walls?" comment. Absolute gold, including the delayed reactions.
Looking forward to the pt 2 of this. Destiny explaining the difference between "good" and "legal" was the best.
That’s a good argument. Everything has walls. THEREFORE, BUILD YE WALL
Pink Floyd had The Wall!
Pretty much every time Rachel opened her mouth, she derailed the conversation.
That was on purpose tho, everytime they were doing it rough she would come in, derail, and get a solid 1-2 minutes of uninterrupted rhetoric pumped right into our feeds
I really think she had nothing to add and was just trying to remind that she was there too.
As women usually do.
This woman's argument in a nutshell : "HUH YOU BOYS DON'T UNDERSTAND I'M A MOTHER AND ONU/WHO BAD"
I think she's infected with the KAREN-19
lmao BPF chain smoking the whole debate
He's chain smoking for Jesus and strong family values
I like his twist on the pizza debate tactic
@@fuckyoutube9713 🤣🤣🤣
Man this dude really lives in his own little world, a reality where you just make up wild shit on a subject without any evidence or knowledge on that topic, and think that is an acceptable way to discuss anything.
@Nick Bacigalupo sure thing buddy
I really like your avatar ♡
@Nick Bacigalupo Yeah because "BoTh SiDeS" is the real big brain take.
but I think we can agree the severity of one side is wildly off
Yea I know, this destiny beta is insufferable and retarded. Bad combo
Destiny equivocating shariah law and islamic morality to christian morality shows how little he knows of either of these traditions
Whooosh
BPF's hatred of lobbying puts him outside his concept of our culture living thru "the constitutional prizm". He needs to be careful, he might argue himself out of existence.
wouldn’t be surprised if Big Papa Fascist and his wife were Highschool Sweethearts
Sweet home Alabama
I could see that. Especially if they were home-schooled lol.
Lol
that’s a bad thing?
That would be awesome and super respectable not many humans are capable of loving one another like that anymore. Also better than being with the Wh*res who have 20 bodies by the time their 20 hahaha.
Imagine being a grown ass man and calling yourself Big Papa
Lmao 1:28:00 Actual automation engineer here. I've got higher education and it's not even me who builds the robots.
It requires an immense amount of knowledge that goes into designing (never mind building) equipment. A PLC, a VFD, any old controller, actually -- I may "design" the way the parts will cooperate together, but it's ridiculous to say "I build the robots, actually." Sometimes it's not even me who writes the programs for the equipment.
I'm a glorified lego builder and my job requires 2 degrees. 0 chance this guy does what he says he does. Dunning-Kruger in full display here.
1:28:01 - wrong. Car manufacturers and service centers that use robots/computers/etc are serviced by IT teams of college educated people. Anyone in the automobile industry knows that.
"Do building have walls, guess they're part of infrastructure"
That's possibly...the dumbest fkn thing I've heard someone say in a real long time. There no way pigbapa is serious...
@@danoco6385 are we looking back that far back for a W? There are plenty of right people that lose debates. Christopher Hitchens lost a couple of religious debates even though he's objectively correct. A debate is a rhetoric battle. Not the arbitration of truth. Go impress yourself elsewhere
@@danoco6385 I'm suuuure you do
The dumbest one I hear from this crowd is "Aha, you say it is wrong to mistreat illegal immigrants, and yet you would allow them in so that I can mistreat them. Are you not being a hypocrite?"
@@travishimebaugh8381 I haven't gotten far enough that that is a thing. Yowzers
@@danoco6385 I probably did back then. I dont even remember if I agreed with him then or do now. You're just snitching on yourself by saying you hate watch destiny more than I even like him. And thats your problem not mine.
Have to say this conversation greatly improved my impression of the US high school education. I didn't know they taught how to build industrial automation and high level AI in the American high schools so effectively.
Destiny’s counter was partly right, but he presented it really badly, especially when he mocked BPF. I’ve worked with Fanuc robots and you can teach them pretty easily. This is where BFP is sorta right; you just walk the bot through each step and hit save. Servicing machines is also teachable to someone with a HS degree and an on the job training cycle.
However, Destiny is right in that a robot properly implemented does the work of multiple people, and you need engineers to design them and often times fix them. Field engineering is a big sector. And BPF let servicing and teach robots go to his head and think he builds them. It’s like a Jiffy Lube tech saying he builds F150s
I was really afraid that bastiat would get all preachy and stuff. I’m really glad he kept his composure. Makes him look infinitely more appealing than his cringe holier than thou performance he sometimes makes.
Can’t say you follow Christ yet want a wall to separate people
Bastiat lookin like the conserige at a bowling alley tonight.
Much snazzy
“Where’s the debate tactic Lebowski”
@37:25
The whole mask mandate thing is so petty. It’s literally the difference between “no shirt, no shoes, no service” and “no shirt, no shoes, _no mask_ , no service”
You really don’t need the government’s permission to tell you how to fight the spread of a pathogen.
I’m a baker so when I hear “bpf” I think of “Black Pepper Focaccia”
That sounds amazing
"There's going to be a bunch of Wilsons running around in the future"
What's a word that surpasses cringe?
@45 fottuto stronzo You have to quote sir D-Pak when you use that term, since he claims he coined it.
Does destiny really believe because the media doesn't cover corruption it doesn't happen? Really. Trusting guy
No. He blieves that the media has an incentive to cover corruption and any corruption evidence would be in the media, not just unsubstantiated claims on social media.
Bastiat was killing it near the end and q&a
Destiny, she has five kids my man. So clearly Your opinions are invalid
"We all see through the prism of the Constitution"
"But we all interpret it differently."
"...priiiiiiiiiism."
1:24:23 - Hey Rachel, the 1950's called. They want their patriarchy back.
classic destiny, this was amazing
Lolol BPF’s wife: “where’s my representation?”
I’m positive you’ll find your representation in that island made of actual trash. Now you can start your own nation.
Everyone listening to the debate while I’m here thinking like ‘who is that woman in the background?’
Who is she
@@Ironraven24 Harem member No. 214
Pretty sure she's being paid to sit back there during debates for optics.
It's ur mom
Same
18:56 "What is you guys's" Some real big brains here.
Destiny clearly doesn't understand the difference between giving an example & arguing for that example.
Listening to people whine about immigrants now when the entire country is comprised of immigrants.
ACKCHYUALLY I present to you the native american population...
That’s actually incorrect. For everyone to have been immigrants there would have had to have been a nation for immigrants to come to in the first place. America was settled by mostly English settlers. Then slowly a small agreeable amount of immigrants mostly from Western Europe were allowed in. With heavy discrimination in order to keep the majority makeup of the country stable. Until the laws changed, allowing an ever increasing amount annually of different racial and ethnic groups.
I watched this through the prism of TH-cam
1:19:57 "And we are actually gonna go to the Q&A portion [of this debate] in a minute..."
*Debate goes on for 13 more minutes*
That “left wing host” Britney buys into the JQ, she’s kidding her power level…
She said, "let me speak as a mother," or something like that. I don't care.
Big daddy fascist the kind of dude who was shoved in the locker in high school now he's mad at the world
By your specificity, this seems like extreme projection lol
Most conservatives have these kinds of insecurities. They never seem to have grown beyond that stage in their life. It's why so many waste so much time fantasizing about killing or shooting someone trespassing or fighting with them so hard. They get to imagine themselves actually winning something and reclaiming their missing sense of manhood. Literally no different then kids shooting each other with magic bolts or playing army or w/e across the school bus aisles.
I'm sure a million people are gonna ask this but who tf's on destiny's couch lmao
That's just real destiny (woman) controlling her streamer avatar from the couch.
I love it when people just can't hide their coomer power level.
@@Pllayer064 Jimmy castor approved
she should stop tainting homeschooling with her name
Most homeschooled kids turn out like her unfortunately... their parents are usually religious zealots.
Homeschooling raises anti social kids
@@Toxic-th4si lol
@@truehistory8440 id have to see the data first
Destiny really shined through in the second half of this debate, and he had moments throughout the first half where I wholeheartedly agreed with him. Big Papa Fascist was absolutely terrible at hashing out what makes a policy "nationalistic." Where he did succeed though, was by arguing that we tend to be heavily invested in a constitutional lens, to lean heavily on constitutional liberties (even if most of us tend to cherry pick the liberties we like best), and to advocate for amendments or repeals as well as revisions to the way we interpret our laws. Destiny opened by arguing that we're governed by a body of laws and could simply have conceded that we litigate through a constitutional or federalist framework.
One of the places where you see a particularly stark difference is if you compare us to the UK. As much as Sargon bangs on about free speech, at the end of the day, he turned his nose up at the idea of a British constitution. He sees Americans as too litigious and he worries a bill of rights would have an adverse effect on the British people. Given that the UK's communications act allows you to be arrested for mean tweets, this is utterly insane to me.
That said, I gotta say, Big Papa Fascist and Madame Karen were a perfect example of so much that I hate about the religious right. "We're not puritanical, but we believe in a government that arrests people for producing porn and heavily regulates what fetishes you can indulge in online. Also anyone who objects is a filthy degenerate." These folks can take a long walk off a short pier.
Really well said
“….but what about my children!”
Blurg!
First time I’ve seen Bastiat in a debate. He killed it!