PS3 SYSCON Tutorial | How to Diagnose the YLOD on PlayStation 3 using its own System Controller
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มิ.ย. 2024
- THIS IS A TURORIAL to gain access and utilize the System Controller IC on a PlayStation 3 to retrieve the error logs and basic debugging information. These are very useful to help diagnose and repair the console after experiencing issues, such as a Yellow Light of Death (YLOD). However, it can be useful for much more than that. I cover the basics, not the more advanced stuff you can do with it. This is mainly geared the novice who needs a windows tutorial. For Linux users, there is already a PDF tutorial on @db260179's github. I suggest you read through the other resources he has compiled in that download as well. There are usefull schematics, voltage test pad locations, and more.
Links:
Written SYSCON Tutorial: www.psx-place.com/threads/sys...
Download Python: www.python.org/downloads/
Download SYSCON Script: github.com/db260179/ps3syscon
SYSCON Error Codes: www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Syscon_...
Asking for help (PSX Place forum): www.psx-place.com/threads/fau...
A list of my more useful posts: www.psx-place.com/threads/res...
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:06 What Is SYSCON?
3:53 Who Do We Thank?
04:34 Disclaimer
05:05 Part 1 - PS3 Turns on
09:00 Part 2 - PS3 Doesn't turn on
16:27 Mullion (External)
19:33 Mullion (Internal)
26:40 Sherwood
28:55 Asking For Help (Outro)
Music:
Fluidscape by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. creativecommons.org/licenses/...
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This is exactly what i needed. I still haven't given up on my launch ps3 very late 2007 checa. Thank you Felix.
I love you for never giving up. That model has been a dream of mine since I was 11. I’m 29 now. And I need the one with the flap full of memory card slots. If gotten running? Test out that OS install option
We Broke that a long time ago... just sayin...
I still had mine in pieces from a failed reflow attempt in the mid 2010s before we knew what caused the yellow light. She let some dude in who tossed it at some point
It honestly amazes me that there is still an active community behind the launch PS3, as a Xbox 360 slim owner, I hold the 7th generation of consoles in a very special place inside my heart, and i hope I can get a classic Xbox 360 and a phat ps3 in the future to do my own experiments on them.
For me 5,6 and 7 generations of game console's was gold era of gaming and games
But, do you PWN it? Do you haves beyond access to the 360?
Theres still an active community behind the PS2 aswell.
@@DaWhiteTygerRGH 😉
I have two classic 360s and a few PS3s for sale...
Just what I needed. I was gonna branch out and actually try to do syscon readings this way and didn’t really know where to start. Very helpful!
Great tutorial! Even though I'm familiar with SYSCON, it's still nice to watch a more experienced person in action to make sure I don't miss anything.
Just a quick tip at 12:48: Instead of installing Python directly on your PC, consider using package management tools like Anaconda or Miniconda. This allows you to create virtual environments and install Python within them, making it easier to manage different Python versions in the future. Installing Python directly on your PC can be messy when it comes to upgrades or downgrades, but with Anaconda, you can have multiple Python versions in separate virtual environments.
Anyhow, great video as always! Can't wait to see your next one.
Fun fact you can turn a raspberry pi pico into a Uart USB Bridge! I made a video on this recently. I have to say my video is not as well put together as this one! Great video!
An actual UART bridge is probably still cheaper, so it would only make sense to do this if you don't have one. Which, if you're doing this sort of thing, I recommend you just buy like 10 cheap ones.
It’s always a good day when you upload. I might be getting a phat PS3 (unknown if it’s back-compatible) but I’ll definitely use this!
you're videos are so much informative and fun to watch hard to find fixing videos combining both, keep up the pace
Best tutorial so far. Good speed to follow, explanation of what and why instead of just instructions. Thanks Felix! Could you make a tutorial how to get data of the HDD, for example to save data of Playstation Home as there are some reverse engineering projects who are looking for them.
You'll need to dump the ERK for that. Requires CFW. Then there's a tool that allows you to decrypt and read the HDD contents. I forget the name of it off the top of my head. It's on the psx place. Ask around.
A most needed tutorial on one of the best diagnostic tools for the PS3. Thank you Felix, amazing work!.
Very informative as always! Here's hoping this will help keep our systems alive for many, many years to come.
Thank you for this! This is perfect for me to follow along for my dad’s PS3.
Looks like my CECHK may see another day yet! Thanks so much Felix!
Awesome, Felix. Tremendous video as always 👏
Thanx for the amazing tutorial and the efforts that U have put in this, I have nothing but respect!💪
That short circuit clip lol 😂 amazing
Tip: pip as a command on its own is going in and out of deprecation and it seems that Python Foundation can't make up their mind. So it's worth keeping in mind, that you can also run "python3 -m pip" instead of "pip" when "pip" is unavailable as a command, but otherwise available as a module.
Loving the graphics in this video as I start watching. Can't wait to see the rest
Genuine tokin error! Incredible. Keep at it, dude!
Thank you Sir! VERY clear, informative video!
I can’t imagine the enormous amount of work that has gone into getting this information needed to build the tools. Thank you to all that contributed.
Further, Sony… give us access to the internal tools that will allow us to maintain our now defunct systems!
Exactly what i need for a ps3 slim ive been holding on to for a few years. Thanks man.
Awesome, thank you for sharing this. I have 4 that are currently bricks, would be cool if I could fix any of them. I did purchase the adapter but I never got round to trying to get the logs. This video will help a lot, whenever I get some time to get around to that. Much appreciated.
You sir are critically underrated!
Just want to say thanks for the detail guide, very heplfull
Awesome information thank you much for the video we'll probably watch It 10 more times
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!
Had my CECH-01 gathering dust waiting for this video, I knew you'd do it; and I was confident it'd be just like this.
Thanks so much fo all you've done man; it's time for me to do my part.
Man, this video is going to be my best friend when i plan on diagnosing my dads old day one ps3! its even older than me!
Finally, somebody knows about short circuit!
Thank you for the step by step detail!!!
Thank you Félix, I still have a japanese 20Gb backwards compatibility fat PS3 waiting to be repaired since 2012. Thanks for you knowledge.
Thanks for this info bro i went to my ps3 and it works perfectly
Great PlayStation 3 diagnosis
Thanks for this excellent tutorial 🙏🙏🙏
This video is pure gold
This video is a great rescource for when i fix up the PS3 i bought. Can't wait to get to it soon
what chance has you average game console user got one PC, even no what serial port is, never mind a command prompt?, it's like all been designed to make as complicated a you manly posable to fix anything?
That's programmed obsolescence for you. One of the reasons right to repair is so important since they can just drop support at any time. @@dh2032
Secretly, they're just tired of so many "where do I put the pins", "how do I access the shell", and photos being submitted and instead of complaining about it (like most people on the internet) they made this useful video
Yes, partly. I have an entire post full of links to tutorials for common questions. But what people really want are videos. So finally getting around to it. But not because I'm annoyed by their questions. Everyone starts by not knowing. Not knowing what the previous 250 pages on the forum contain is understandable. I can forgive them for not reading all of it before asking a normal question that I've answered a hundred times before. I just like having a link to a post or video ready when they do.
As the proud owner of eight PS3s, I’m so thankful that none have had any issues. I own three 60GB launch models, one partially PS2 compatible model, an E model, slim, super slim, and the gun grey MGS4 limited edition bundle.
Today I learned you can enter cmd in the address bar. Thanks I don't have a PS3 but this was very interesting
Thank for this tut. Your ps3 videos are awesome. 👍
I don't even own a ps3, just have been enjoying your vids
Thank you for this easilly understandable tutorial! Now to check if errors 3034 and 4411 are solvable...
I double checked and even re-soldered my wires thinking I might have had a cold solder joint, turns out it was just my rx and tx swapped the whole time... so much time wasted.
Шикарная работа! ❤
imma be real, i dont even own a ps3, but god damn this video is interesting and well-crafted
This is awesome! I’m so amazed at how diehard this community is
Dude, this is awesome.
Just the video I needed for some phats that I need to fix. You got a sub from me from now on
Great Video Felix!
increadible video, like always.
I wish we had this years ago, what a great and thorough tutorial, good job! But let's hope I won't ever need it for my slim PS3 haha
PS3 Slim doesnt get YLOD so i think youre safe lol
Damn this is so cool and i would actually love to fuck around with the syscon a bit even though my PS3 is just genuinely dealing with a psu issue lol
i just did syscon check on a fat CEHH11 using a PiPico, 1-2sec YLOD, the main idea was to remove and replace all the tokins, good thing that i recalled about the syscon before attempting anything else, sadly it gave me errors 3034, meaning it needs a reball or bad CPU/GPU(?), i don´t have a reball station nor the skills to attempt a reball, maybe in a future i´ll get a station to learn how to reball PS3s and X360s, and just maybe, how to do a Frankie PS3.
Once 1 repaired a slim2001A by "blindly" replacing all NECTOKINS with Tantalums, and it still works fine, also just delidded it a few days ago along with my main 2501B, both working great now.
Anyway, thanks for the detailed tutorial, it really was nice to learn how to do syscon checks.
This is why emulation *SHINES* !
-If the console boots, is it acceptable/helpful to use CFW to dump the syscon logs when asking for help (assuming it's already installed)? Apologies if this is covered in the video and I somehow missed it.- Yep. It was answered pretty early in the video.
Thanks again for the fantastic tutorial.
What an amazing guide, im picking up tommorow a whole lot of untested or clearly defective consoles - one of them is the cechc BC (EU model) and they state it has YLOD so that guide sounds very helpful to give it a try. You do appoint that its best to diassemble and get it hooked up before even trying 1st boot yourself?:) if not would really appreciate explanation on that. Also on on the power - do you use an external power connector for the 12V or for 5V and is there certain mA or A that should be specified if so.
I just use an APS226 PSU. I got banana plug to aligator clip cables for 12v. They plug into the PSU perfect. As for 5v I made an extention cable. This allows me to have PSU off to the side, out of the way and prevent shorting when the RF shield is not on (so I can live probe).
Excellent tutorial ! Now let's resurrect my 3034 YLOD CECHC PS3 (Damn I'm not enough skilled to do a Frankenstein Mod 😢)
I watched this thinking it would be about how they broke the encryption, figured out the commands, etc. Still very interesting. Now I know how to fix a PS3 if I ever get one. 🤪
Thank you for doing all these videos! I have 2 working BC phats and one given to me for parts. The 2 have worked great so far. Other than needing to replace a disc drive here and there. I never knew these consoles had so many problems. I always assumed they were bulletproof other than the random disc drive. I have noticed an unusual amount of heat and louder fans on my 1st one. Bur I never thought anything about it. It's mainly used to watch Blu-ray now. Should I be concerned?
Replace the thermal paste if you havnt done already. While doing that do a dust fan clean down. The original thermal paste will be like hard cement by now. Once replaced and cleaned should last for years to come
Those consoles are too valuable to just use as bd players and they'll burn their chip out eventually without warning. Either store them or sell them and then buy a cheap slim or super slim ps3 for bds.
nice. appreciate this
10 years spent of someone's life to get to this !, sure there are people out there who are worth millions of others who does nothing but to get life on this planet worse than it is...
That man deserves a documentary on his work!
Should add syscon or ylod debugging or something similar for better search results on the consumer end
For the PL2303TA USB to TTL Serial Cable, how do I know if it is 3.3 volts? How do I make it 3.3 volt's if it's not?
I did get the 2 pip things installed successfuly, however it's telling me there is a new update available for the pip I ran. When I did the pip command, it installed 23.2.1, but it told me there is 23.3.2 available. Should I update? Do I need to update?
god i hope i never need to use this info, amazing video
I had a slim back in 2010, and it would shut off after a few seconds. Found out online that if you turn a diode inside 10%, it would stay powered on. It did work.
PS3 Slim 25xx can show yellow light but syscon doesn't for some reason do it on that model.
I'm curious if I was to take my playstation 3 into a reputable repair place do they do this type of troubleshoot also?
i don't even have a ps3, but this is gonna be entertaining
A new Felix video!!!!
No. 5 lives !
Great video! One question, does the first method works with OFW?
Yes.
Beloved!
I have no problems authing in external mode but when i get to internal mode when i auth it says scopen response invalid how do i fix this
I would love to run linux natively instead of having to go through the game system itself. What I mean is to delete the game system OS and just have linux runing on boot up.
Hey Felix, question on your Tantalizer PCBs. Was gonna buy some off jlcpcb but they don't have 0.8mm Thickness in 2oz cooper like the osh park boards, only 1oz. Is getting the 1oz cooper PCBs off jlcpcb good enough to handle the current?
Yeah, that's fine.
@@ripfelix3020 Appreciate it thank you.
Wow great!
Excellent tutorial. The only thing I did to my PS3 fat was change out the thermal paste and cleaned the heat sink about 4 years ago. I didn't have security torx drive but I had a drill so I drilled out the security pin and used a regular torx to open the system.
I bought a broken ps3 fat hoping to fix it and sell, thought it had ylod, had a red blinking light, no clue what the issue was and no info on it online. This would have been really nice.
i'm having a hard time time seeing the dust i wish some one would point it out with some sort of indicator like some arrows or something it would be really helpful.
A01 model owner, still runs all 3 gen games, blu rays, everything perfectly fine. Is there any benefit to running the toolset proactively checking errors that could lead to faults sooner than later? Just curious.
Just curiosity. But you should be aware there are likely to be some A0801001, A0801004, A0802022...etc. Potentially, A0801601/A08014FF/A0801701. Some errors can occur from unexpected shutdowns (like a power outtage, or pulled plug, surge). Or from software crashes that are sometimes encountered. If the console is otherwise stable, they shouldn't alarm you. If OTOH, there is instability in intense games and you see those, it could indicate a failure is in progress. Catching it early, can give you enough warning time to get your saves off, for example.
@@ripfelix3020thanks, it’s strange because even now I’ve always felt this ps3 has a more stable frame rate in demanding games such as Last of Us, MGRising, MGS4, etc. just lucky I suppose as it was definitely not opened before I did to repaste.
I’ll get around to that then and post any unusual codes I (may) get on the forum. 👌
Hello friend, I have a question, can I extract the log from a super slim 4k? Great job!
Via uart, yes.I'm not sure about ps3toolset, since I don't have a non jailbreakable console. It may not.
also what is the liquid used at 12:00 i assume it not water but idk ive never soldered (i will practice before i do this dw) let alone electronics
Isopropyl Alcohol (99%) used to dissolve flux and the paper towel to soak it up. Takes a few rounds of scrubbing and soaking up to get all the flux off.
Here I go resurrecting the dead 10 plus years this would've been great to know
Amazing
Honey wake up, it’s another RIP Felix video.
I'm getting a lot of help from you. How do I change the screen of cmd like you at 15:45? I have entered the folder, but I don't know how to enter the first cmd screen or the second cmd screen. Help me.
The command string needed depends on what SYSCON version you"re console has. Mullion (CXR/CXRF) or Sherwood (SW).
inside the "linux" folder is the syscon script. [somthing].py That's what you type. If you mount that folder into the command terminal like I showed, all you have to do is type a few letters and then press TAB. It will autofill with anything withing that folder matching the letters you type (like a shortcut). If you press it again it'll match the next one alphabetically (if there are more than one). You can also rename the python script to ps3.py to make it easier to type if you'd prefer. The script will still run fine.
I wonder if it'd be possible to port the Python script to run in a web browser, however I do not have a PS3 (let alone one I'd trust my soldering skills with)
The script itself maybe, but I don't think there's any way for a web page to access serial ports.
There is WebUSB but that requires the device to explicitly support it. So you'd need a WebUSB-to-UART adapter. They probably exist, but I've never checked.
Can you offer a tutorial on configuring the fan phases and duty cycles?
An example of the COK-001/2 default fan table is given in the written tutorial linked in the description. There is also a link to a thread on psx place with more examples and explanations.
Not sure if you are still commenting or not, but i was wondering how you set up the power supply to be distant from the board, and whether that mattered or not?
I'm using an APS226 as a bench PSU. For the 12v connector I'm using banana plug to aligator clip cables. The banana plugs conveniently fit perfectly into the PSU. For the 5v connector I spliced the wire and used ribbin cable to make it longer. Lastly, I made adapters so it'll work for models with 3, 4, and 5 pin 5v connectors.
Awesome
Thank you this upload I have 2 backwards compatible ps3 with emotion engine maybe I’ll get off my arse and syscon diagnose them lol
i have Teensy ++2.0 how can i use it for ps3 read Syscon
could u put the required items in the description ie what ever the usb thing is called
It's in the written tutorial that's linked
I recently did that on a cechk, it gave me the nec Tokin error and after some tests I actually think it's a real nec tokin issue. Do you think I should post about it somewhere for doc purposes?
Yeah, you could post your result on the psx place thread (linked) if you like. I scrape it periodically for reports and add them to my spreadsheet. Be sure to include model number, codes, repair history, and notes like if the warranty seal was intact, lots of dust, etc.
That model tends to be more tokin failures than anything else ATM. J - 20xx have a reliable 65nm RSX, so they tend to live long enough for the tokins to wear out.
does this toolset works for ps3 that have hen installed
well thats nice, i could use a syscon debug/TS and I mainly use PopOs linux now
@ripfelix3020 Hello Felix one question. Does the Syscon found in PS3 super slim all the SKUs associated with that redesign and production) also work with The Online Error log check or is it only for fat PS3?
Yes, you can use ps3toolset.com to check the errorlog for all models of PS3. You just can't jailbreak all models.
@@ripfelix3020 sweet thank you for letting me know Felix. I got an extra PS3 super slim that I plan on using and I deep cleaned it and want to double check if the system had any issues I'm not aware of.
@@ripfelix3020 I was gonna ask have you checked out or repaired any of the PS3 test units? Basically Sony made a few ps3s for devs and for QA purposes around the launch of PS3, these systems have region free PS1/PS2 support. Word is there much more reliable then The Launch 20 and 60 GB models.
A few of those dev/tool/review samples got binned GPUs (silicon lottery winners). They ran very efficient. I have seen confirmed binned 90nm RSX run at 40nm RSX temps under load. But buying a dev console doesnt guarintee you'll get a binned GPU. Some lucky retail models have them too. Pretty rare tho.
Hey, would you be okay if I use a small snippet of your video in my upcoming video that I'm making? It'll be no more than a few seconds and without audio. I will leave credit to your original video.
Thanks!
I do not mind
Hi, thank you so much. working on an old YLOD phat i got from the thrift store for 20 bucks a few years back. I have had success with external mode and I am able to set to internal mode. when i boot i get checksum error. I have DIA-001, looking around i see that some people say that i need to also solder a connection to GND (left of RX) as well as the DIAG. I am unable to access internal mode I receive scopen response invalid.
Yes, just be sure PS3 and UART adapter are sharing the same ground. Use aligator clips to connect uart GND to the PS3's copper ring and that'll ensure they have the same ground refrence. Then connect DIAG to UART GND as well.
One thing that can happen is that the previous session can get stuck. So unplug DIAG and auth back into external mode. Then verify the byte was enabled. Then turn off, plug in diag again, like before and attempt to auth back into internal mode. Doing this can get it out of that weird state.
@@ripfelix3020 thanks a lot. i'm sure this is the solution. but i'm a total noob and ended up losing my DIAG solder point trying to fix the connection lol, I still have a jumper connected but it doesn't seem right. going to get a new board and try again. positive i'll get it next time.
There is a via you can connect to alternativly, but it's even smaller and you have to expose copper by scraping away mask. You can repair the pad too. Point is you should be able to handle this level of soldering if you have hopes of repairing PS3. Any potential repair revealed by syscon is going to be a much more difficult soldering job than the soldering to get the errorlog. I reccomend junk boards for practice until you're ready for a salavageable boards.
It's a process and we learn best from failing. So fail your way to sucess my friend. No shame in it. You'll get there.
Thank you Felix just got the results and a 1002 seems to be the issue
In the latest releases he's put the script into a folder names linux.
Thank you very much
I miss my PS3.
I want to get one and mod it, but they’re so expensive nowadays, especially for launch models.