PS3 RSX OVERCLOCK | Stock VS 600/750 VS 700/750 | Sonic Unleashed | Framerate test

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  • @MitsuTM
    @MitsuTM  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Please, read the description !
    Several useful links here.
    Overclocking ISN'T risk free, be careful !

  • @Tanzu15
    @Tanzu15 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    My lord even an OC can’t save this game Christ.

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      One of the many poorly/lazily optimized games of this generation, sadly 😅
      Maybe higher clocks could achieve 30fps here, but I doubt so and this would be particularly dangerous for the GPU.

    • @Tanzu15
      @Tanzu15 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@MitsuTM only if voltage is Involved which is not. Besides we gotta find a stable high OC to make a bunch of these games work. Cause man so many PS3 games perform like shit. Hell most of them do. We need to find a way to make these OCs work.

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yes, this is why this experimentation is particularly interesting 😎
      When I say "dangerous" I mean that it can brick your PS3 (even without touching voltage). Not because of a faulty .pup file, just because your PS3 may not be able to endure as much as you think.
      My CECH-2004 turned into a brick after I installed a 700/1000 firmware, the exact same that another user installed on his PS3 without issue.
      My GPU (65nm) just can't handle such values (1000MHz memory).
      That said, I won't stop experimenting this, I'll just be WAY more cautious now.

    • @you_commentbackyourmomahoe
      @you_commentbackyourmomahoe 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can i ask one question my ps3 toke 750/950 no problem i tried 800/950 and my screen had so many black red and white pixel everywhere i knew this could handle it so i lower it to 750/950 and i was thinking if i lowered the vram usages threat to 800vram or lower will it be easier to 800hz the main processor without the same issue i got or it's going to be the same​@@MitsuTM

  • @李乐-p6y
    @李乐-p6y 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    see u again my man😊

  • @coccoborg
    @coccoborg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I found that a very good way to overclock safely is to warm up the PS3 by playing some games, immediately updating to raise the frequency by 50MHz, then jumping back in game. At some point, you'll end up with artifacts and/or freezing, at that point you just use the fan blowout function a couple times to cool the heatsink, or let the system sit for a while to cool, then revert back to the last safe clock; rinse and repeat! If you start with a high clock at low temperature and it locks up, you're forced to grab a flasher, but this way I always ended up having the console crash or artifact before it became impossible to update again! (Tested on a 2504B slim and delidded CECHG fat, slim can get to 750/900 and the fat to 650/800 before artifacting). Delidding and more tantalum capacitors seemed to give 50~100MHz extra core on the fat, haven't messed with the slim, since it's always worked well and I'm in no rush to ruin it LOL.

  • @MoonSarito
    @MoonSarito 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the reason why GPU overclocking doesn't help much in the Empire City hub is because in this area specifically the game is limited by the CPU.
    I read somewhere that Sonic Unleashed doesn't fully utilize the PS3's PPU modules so that makes sense.

  • @deslardesslok
    @deslardesslok 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    5:19a.m. 9/5/2024

  • @FlashZip0904
    @FlashZip0904 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hi Mitsu , Rsx Boost Project seems incredible to me, I have been using oc 600/750 on my 2501a for a while and I would like to help in the forum by testing different frequencies in heavy games
    But there are some data that I don't know how to know about my console, such as the month or what is the version of my rsx, that is, if it is GGB and another

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi !
      Their should be a sticker on the back of your PS3 with a date code (like "9C" for example) or directly a date depending on your region.
      Date codes are for europeans consoles, while in the rest of the world it should be a date (like "February 2007") directly.
      Here is a page about it :
      www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/Datecode
      To know which RSX model your have, the only method I'm aware of is to read it directly on the GPU's IHS.
      Example : imgur.com/5Kleu3G
      But you'll have to repaste it after that.
      In fact, this is not so vital, as we can always find other informations about RSX ID in a LVL1 dump. Not something like "CXD2991EGB", but still. Don't worry.
      See you soon on PSX-PLACE, maybe !

    • @FlashZip0904
      @FlashZip0904 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@MitsuTMThanks for the help, my console is a global version and its date is August 2010
      I will look at the RSX ID when I manage to fix my TV, in the meantime I will contribute what I can in the forum

  • @gnrtx-36969
    @gnrtx-36969 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The only way to fix that is by overclocking cpu and ram i hopw one day someone will make something like that

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I hope too ! It seems way more complicated than for the GPU though.

  • @SubordinadodeDios
    @SubordinadodeDios 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Puedes probar un nivel completo como lo hiciste en 06?

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SubordinadodeDios Por qué no 👍
      Debería probar Jungle Joyride, pero no esperes milagros 😬
      Mientras tanto, puedo ofrecerte este video de @simracer778 (aunque puede que ya lo hayas visto) :
      🔹th-cam.com/video/IHC23-Fi-oM/w-d-xo.html

  • @adiszc
    @adiszc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Como posso obter o overclock 700/750?

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Procure aqui se você não pode usar ps3MFW-Builder :
      app.mediafire.com/0uxvp5ismnjwm

  • @kirillaristov7235
    @kirillaristov7235 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    More tests please 🙏

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It depends, what game do you want to see ? 👀

    • @kirillaristov7235
      @kirillaristov7235 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@MitsuTM the last of us would be perfect 😇

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@kirillaristov7235I can't say when I will do that, but I take note 👍
      I'm currently searching a better PS3, my second 2004B slim has dying capacitors (not OC related, just my bad luck).

    • @kingzero314
      @kingzero314 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MitsuTM
      Dragon dogma 🙏

  • @KHPKero
    @KHPKero 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    how does the 700 run cooler than the 600?
    besides i have a 2000a which i installed 650 solely for this game and reverted because of temps

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's just because it had more time to warm up before the "600MHz" session. Still, I notice practically no differences in temps with or without overclocking. It stay insignificant.
      What about your temps ? Concretely, what difference does it make ?
      Is your PS3 cleaned/repasted ?
      And your fan speed ?
      We must also consider your ambient temperature.
      I ask a lot of questions, sorry 😅

    • @KHPKero
      @KHPKero 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MitsuTM nah it's okay ask what you want
      the room I'm in is naturally hot and the PS3 itself keeps rising in temps until the fan hit 60 percent or more
      i have set it through evilnat so that it never passes 70c so that it stays cool because I just recently replaced the cpu (well not me, but a local shop told me the cpu was bad when the ps3 wouldn't power on and act as if the power has been cut)
      edit : before I replaced the old cpu i had sent it to get repasted since i didn't have the tools as the ps3 was sending overheating warnings and I think it hasn't been replaced up until this point in mid-2023 (had it for 2 years at that time and it was used heavily before)

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Given the context, I understand why you are concerned about temps increase 😅
      Did you use WebmanMod for the fan settings ? You could set an higher minimum speed.

    • @KHPKero
      @KHPKero 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MitsuTM yes but I don't the fans to always be loud
      the fan option built in evilnat helps keep it just below 70c that i set
      helps preserve the temps to not break the cpu again
      i do sometimes turn on the ac in the room which helps very much but it's an old model that consumes lots of electricity🥲

  • @GoldenFenrir
    @GoldenFenrir 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    how are you getting your tempatures so low? Especially when overclocking

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GoldenFenrir Well, my PS3 is completely cleaned, "repasted" with some Arctic MX4 and I set the fan speed to 40% minimum within WebmanMod settings.
      I also raised the console slightly with custom feet (2~3 centimeters) so that the air circulates better below.
      On top of that, where I live the temperatures are rather moderate, which helps a lot I guess.

    • @GoldenFenrir
      @GoldenFenrir 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MitsuTM I had mine cleaned and repasted with the good stuff back in 2022. I need to redust it. I've had my fan at 37% and my games go up to 65C Degrees. I also have little furniture pads on my system to raise about 2 inches. shelf has LOTS of airflow. I did the mod where they drill holes over the fan, and then put a grid to keep dust out. BUT live in Texas which is hot as hell! Explains everything. I'll redust it and bump up the fan. Ive overclocked to 600 750. I want to go a little bit higher. Would you recommend 650/ 750 or 600 /800 or 650/ 800. PS i have 2501b slim

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GoldenFenrir For a 25XX, 650/800 is pretty safe. In fact, you could even install 700/850 if needed.
      None OC is 100% safe, in any case there will be a lifespan reduction, but up to 700/850 this should stay insignificant.
      After these frequencies, there are diminishing returns, so that would mean risking your console's health for "crumbs".

    • @GoldenFenrir
      @GoldenFenrir 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MitsuTM Alright, thanks man!! I wish I had bought an SSD to further help the tempatures but others have been the 2500 should be able to handle. I'm ready to experiment. I definitely wont go beyond 700 / 850. Thanks again for the info

  • @MitsuTM
    @MitsuTM  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My experiments about diminishing returns :
    www.psx-place.com/threads/project-rsx-boost-overclock-your-retail-ps3-rsx-speeds-ps3-cfw-only.36801/page-119#post-392382

  • @mimimimeow
    @mimimimeow 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've spent the entire evening reading the forums, last time I checked there's barely 30 pages lol. Just one question, do you think my 2104B 40nm would handle 700/900? Your 2004B is 65nm correct?

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Correct !
      And it's mostly limited by NEC Tokins capacitors still being present in these models.
      After further testing, I discovered that 700MHz on core was too much for them in heavy games and it could crash the system. So 650/900 is the maximum that 20XX models can do.
      🔹Regarding your 2104B, I think it can handle 700/900 but as always, it's safer to increase values step by step, 50MHz by 50MHz. Avoid jumping directly to 900MHz on memory.
      Do some testing on demanding games like Crysis or Metal Gear Rising Revengeance, search for potential artifacting or crash, any instability, before another 50MHz increment.

    • @mimimimeow
      @mimimimeow 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MitsuTM I got to 700/900 and it works fine. I'll stop there. It runs cooler (just syscon fan!) for some reason. Major improvements in most games but so far Crysis 1 mission 4 and Yakuza 0 at central square are quite laggy, I don't know whether its a bug or CPU (PPU) bottleneck, would appreciate if you can test these scenarios out

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I will try to see for Crysis. In Yakuza 0, is this a place where there are many NPCs ? I ask because generally, the CPU is the one working the most in this kind of contexts.

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mimimimeow I've just reached the 4th mission of Crysis and I confirm ! These framerate drops are understandable, this mission is pretty heavy (many explosions, ennemies, etc...). To be honest, it don't even run that bad giving the context.

    • @mimimimeow
      @mimimimeow 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MitsuTM Great, that means nothing's wrong with mine. I keep seeing others reporting the same cooler temp reading, which makes no sense. I'm afraid the sensor may be affected by the clock change. I think a direct thermocouple reading might be needed to verify lol

  • @mynameisgeorge7095
    @mynameisgeorge7095 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi bro my playstation series is cech-2500A and now IM using 600/750 OC and work fine,can i increase to 700/750 or can u suggest for my series?(Sorry for bad English)

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi ! Your PS3 should be able to handle at least 700MHz on core (max 900 but to each PS3 their limits, even between same models) and 900MHz on memory (max 1000MHz but there is a huge brick risk, so proceed step by step, 25MHz by 25MHz).
      Do not jump directly to high values, stay cautious.
      Don't worry, English is not my native language, I understand.

    • @mynameisgeorge7095
      @mynameisgeorge7095 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MitsuTM Thank you for replying, IM still new on this kind stuff😅 So should I try 650/750 or can I just go straight to 700/750 and is the installation method the same as standard OC?

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@mynameisgeorge7095
      Yes, this is like any update, with a .pup file.
      I would recommend to try 650 on core first yes. 700MHz should be easy for your PS3, but it's better to be safe than sorry.
      There is a huge thread about this experimentation if you need more informations. Feel free to come :
      www.psx-place.com/threads/project-rsx-boost-overclock-your-retail-ps3-rsx-speeds-ps3-cfw-only.36801/page-88

    • @mynameisgeorge7095
      @mynameisgeorge7095 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MitsuTM Where can I get the 650 and 700 OC? I want to try both, do you have a download link?

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​@@mynameisgeorge7095
      There is this folder where I keep all the firmwares I build.
      If something you need is missing, feel free to ask !
      www.mediafire.com/folder/0uxvp5ismnjwm/PS3+OVERCLOCK
      Or if you prefer to build them yourself:
      th-cam.com/video/V1lwz4l7Ebw/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared

  • @MitsuTM
    @MitsuTM  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    New video, testing one of my favorite game of the PS360 gen ! 500/650 VS 800/1000
    th-cam.com/video/-U7MypDU_Xo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=eogio96iKLnvHjm8

  • @ryuhoshi-p9w
    @ryuhoshi-p9w 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have the PS3 slim CECH-2501B with the standard oc 600/750. It runs perfectly fine. How do you get the 700/750? Can you get the 700/800?

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can ask here if you want. We're still experimenting :
      www.psx-place.com/threads/project-rsx-boost-overclock-your-retail-ps3-rsx-speeds-ps3-cfw-only.36801/
      With this model, you could probably even go beyond 700/800. My second CECH-2004B can run at 700MHz core/900MHz VRAM without issues so far 👍

    • @VictorHugoAlvarez-eternelymiss
      @VictorHugoAlvarez-eternelymiss 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@MitsuTM Epic Mate, But Please Don't Got Above That, That Shall be Close to Safety, Not Because of Temperature but Because of Electronics, we Know if overclock is too high then the high Power Will Burn the Transistors of Power Supply Inside the Processor.

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​​​@@VictorHugoAlvarez-eternelymiss
      You're right, it's always better to stay cautious.
      But without modifying voltage at all, risks are pretty low if you stick to a moderate overclock.
      Indeed, if you're pushing your system too much, you'll notice artifacting or crashes (or the worst : system bricking).
      Then, step back and it should be fine.
      For example, on my model, 700MHz core could make my PS3 crash on very heavy games, so I lowered it to 650MHz. As for VRAM, 900MHz is the last value without any artifacts or instabilities. But for regular use, I will lower it to 800MHz. I think 900MHz on VRAM is maybe too aggressive.
      You know, my model is pretty limited due to capacitors still being here and unable to handle 700MHz (the reason for crashes) but some other users are pushing newer models way more. Like 900 core/950 VRAM. Even 1000 VRAM in rare cases.
      By the way, if you need more informations or want to share your knowledge, here is the main topic about this experimentation :
      www.psx-place.com/threads/project-rsx-boost-overclock-your-retail-ps3-rsx-speeds-ps3-cfw-only.36801/page-77

    • @VictorHugoAlvarez-eternelymiss
      @VictorHugoAlvarez-eternelymiss 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MitsuTM Yea Wow That's So Crazy, 900mhz RSX Corr It's an Super Overclock,

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@VictorHugoAlvarez-eternelymiss
      Yes, this is pure madness haha x) It's a possibility on certain 25XX models. I hope that their systems will stay operational at such clocks on the long run. We'll see.

  • @MitsuTM
    @MitsuTM  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    New test just dropped !
    Gran Turismo 6 1080p
    Stock VS 600/750 VS 700/900 VS 800/1000
    th-cam.com/video/ZPWMILqLFd8/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared

  • @TheMiraiAngel02
    @TheMiraiAngel02 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you play the game via usb i think the framerate improves more

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheMiraiAngel02 I play it directly from an internal SSD, that's the best you can do. It doesn't really affect the framerate, more the loading times and maybe some textures loading faster too.

  • @superkekimovil1226
    @superkekimovil1226 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ya llegua a 20 fps,ya es algo xdddd, podrías probarlo en niveles de dia demandantes para ver como funciona

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Claro, ahora que tengo una nueva PS3 que puede soportar 800/1000, probablemente voy a hacer nuevas pruebas

    • @superkekimovil1226
      @superkekimovil1226 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MitsuTM Woow, enserio puede llegar a tanto sin morir en el intento?

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@superkekimovil1226
      ¡Sí, y es perfectamente estable!
      Pocos PS3 son capaces de eso. Hay que buscar los 25XX de diciembre o enero (o 0D/1A para los europeos), con los RSX CXD5300CGB o CXD5300GGB.
      Los "GGB" son capaces de un poco más, un amigo tiene una PS3 a 900MHz core.

    • @superkekimovil1226
      @superkekimovil1226 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MitsuTM voy a intentar buscar

    • @MitsuTM
      @MitsuTM  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@superkekimovil1226
      Si obtiene una, no la cambie directamente a 800/1000. Ten cuidado.
      1000MHz VRAM es bastante arriesgado, es mejor tener un hardware flasher en caso de que algo salga mal.
      975MHz VRAM ya es más seguro.