Yes, The Subaru BRZ Works in the Snow. Also Continental WinterContact Si Tire Review
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You know the snow tires are good when you’re drifting that exit ramp and let off the gas and the car corrects itself.
the best pov angle on youtube
kamil almost the best POV videos on the internet.... Almost
@@MrZachItalia almost😂😂😂
To me it looks like a giant looking hunching his back to be able to see
That's very true best angle
And Tedward
You are by far my favorite TH-cam car channel. Period. You tell it like a true DRIVING enthusiast without regurgitating all the auto-journalist bullshit and THAT’s completely unique. When I’m researching a car, you’re my first stop on the internet to get an inkling of the driving enthusiast characteristics and potential. You speak the language (car-guy) properly, fluently and with clarity; and you are clearly in love with driving, just for the sake of it, just like me. Thanks young man. 😉👍
Your camera is so smooth
It better be for $419 holy shit lol
True and true lol
You’re a skilled driver. I’m from florida, so my only practice is driving trucks in colorado. They’ll slide but you make that look too easy. Massive ditches on either side, casually sliding while giving a review. Props bro you made me really want one.
I LOVE my BRZ in the snow. Have a set of 205/55/16 Cooper WeatherMaster ST tires mounted on '99 Legacy GT wheels. Craigslist find for $175 total mounted and balanced. They do pretty well. Such a fun car to slide around in. Always have my 4Runner for when it gets really bad:)
something about you driving a brz in the snow is so relaxing for me. Can't wait to own one of these
A good driver tagged along with some good snow tires and you can get through anything. Good vid!
I have the exact same winters on my 2017 BRZ, on 16" BBS RSII's!
They're fantastic, great for this very snowy Canadian winter we've been having in Toronto.
Could you drive this in mountains to go snowboarding? Or am i better off taking a WRX
one of the best youtube channels out there. Greetings from Norway!
been looking forward to this again
Just got a set of these tires for my BMW, loving it so far.
Getting ready for the first Canadian winter for my 17 brz this year.
I love the snow with this car!!
This makes me look forward to winter...Although, I hope I don't regret saying that, being that I live in New England.
Thanks for posting this thinking about leasing this car soon wanted to know how it handled in winter
What in the world happened to your road? What's all that white stuff? I don't understand!
Greetings from a desert. Seriously, the last time I saw snow was 2009, I think.
That is cocaine my friend
Great video, exactly what I was looking for
Oh man that looks like fun!
I had Blizzak WS70's on my BRZ for three winters. I drove in every snowstorm and never got stuck. I have an STI now with Wintercontact SI's and they are great tires. They handle much better on dry pavement than the Blizzak tires did. I'm surprised the Continentals aren't more popular I think they are the best all-round winter tire.
how well are they compared to going up steep ish mountain roads, I know the blizzak has studs on them atleast the ws80 does, im going back to the snow with my brz this jan and was wandering which does better.
Never seen a set of Blizzaks with studs before......
I own a 17 wrx with blizzak ws80s and they dont have studs in them but i never had a problem with them.
@@ericahearn9604 my bad i was looking at a diff tire lmao
@@ericferlenda8955 my bad i was looking at a diff tire lmao
My Lexus IS350 with RWD is a blast to drive in the winter too, once I turn off the traction control. I just send to have Blizzaks on it but they are so expensive. I’m over in Grand Rapids so I’m getting the same weather as you but more lake effect snow.
Hell yea it works in the snow. Lots of people making rally cars out them 86s.
People have been driving only RWD cars on the snow, manual, no LSD, without all the driver's assist for like a century. The worse driver someone is, the more assist they need.
They never made the same amount of power though.
While adjustability in my R56 Mini isn't as good as a rear-wheel drive car, I'd say that the handbrake is pretty great for adjustability in a pinch, and I absolutely rip through MN winters with LM-60 Blizzaks. Great video!
FR-S in CNY.. can confirm it works and it's great fun! Even did my first winter here with the factory all-seasons, no real issues, but since equipping Blizzak WS8s, not gonna go back
Bryan Liguori Been a mild winter here in Syracuse but loving my Blizzaks also.
225 45 r 17 michelin x ice on my frs and they arent great in the dry.. they let go early but damp and wet they really stick.. snow and ice they seem to be swell too. im happy with em! Lots off fun sliding around too lol
road service doesn ´t give a shit about road... surprises of snow in december...
I just got a set of toyo winter tires and I'm in Utah,,,... hopefully I'll be ok.. made it through last winter with all seasons driving up to park city
I have a FRS and also live in the Michigan. Winter tires are the best thing ever for this car, if you have all seasons.. you're going to be slipping ALL the damn time. The snow last week was brutal for most cars but driving with snow tires was a breeze.
got a brand new 86 and im like wtf is going on lol sliding everywhere.
you guys sure have a lot of crickets in the winter ;)
Yeah they seem to have come back in the cold...thought I had that fuel pump licked!
I'm so glad I live in Texas and never get snow like this. Snow is pretty on pictures.
Hope you survived the absolute shit-show of February 2021!
Its that time of the year boys. 🏎😈
my continental DWS (I think that's what they are called) all season tires worked perfectly. I've driven rwd all my life it's not that big of a deal in the snow. but this car is a little harder than my other since it's so dam light haha but still manageable
Okay, this is an oldie, sure, but, I’m buying a new 2020 BRZ tS in like 2 hours, and I’m a truck guy from a truck family, trading my truck in for this car, and like I have my moments of doubt, but then I watch this and it’s like “ k, shut up and enjoy this.”
This makes me miss driving in North Dakota during winter
You were in snow deeper than I ever saw on main drags in co. Michigan pow is no joke
Have you ever gotten questioned by the police for how you drive doing the cool tricks in them cars? Always be careful!! Stay safe dude!
He is not doing anything, 60mph+ manji over the all lanes that would be more liked
Fun Wheel Drive! Hell Yeah! I have Michelin X ICE on my Toyobaru but any quality name brand will do. Studded Generals artics are quite popular among canadian brz bloggers. They seem to have a lot of bang for the buck. Michelins x ice are exellent on cold dry pavement and on wet roads, very good on light snow and slush, but are just OK on ice. Studs are needed on the nastiest stuff and ice. However you do sacrifice a lot of that "every day" dry/wet handling with studs.
Love it, just picked up 2020 BRZ..Hopefully we get snow?
trying to decide between a wrx and brz this reealy make me feel better about winter driving
Outback’s for a bad weather daily, brz for fun
@@yournamehere3679 ended up buying a 2013 Impreza will probably get the new z once i finish school and get a good job
If the BRZ works on snow, then everything works on snow. At the end of the day, you don't need awd or 4wd. Just winter tires and driving skilzzz.
Brz puts fwd and fwd+ in their place 🍑 👏
Man watching this in August gives me winter fever lol.
😂
You know your from Michigan when you click your boots to get the snow off! I thought I was the only one to do that lol
If i was able at 18 to drive an hour home from school in an old lancer with shit worn all-season that can barely grip in the dry let alone the wet along with a lot of traffic then this is doable also never thought of using sandbags in the rear that's really smart nobody does that around here
The drifting doe!
And this is when the BRZ becomes more fun than a fiesta ST for daily driving lol
Do you think it could be possible also to go through snowy steep roads? I was in love with this car, now that I saw this video I'm going to save money ahah! Have fun and enjoy also for me! Greetings from Italy!
I do recomend nokian hakkapelitta 8 or 9 if you want good all around traction!
Hakkapeliitta
Eh studded tires are a pain in the ass. Lots of places get a lot of snow but aren't mountainous so studless snows, caution, and skill are plenty for the winter
I have a built bugeye and I need something I can road trip that can deal with winter. You might have sold me on picking up a decent used one for $14k, raising it an inch on coils and throwing some fat winter tires on. God that sounds like fun.
I’m a fiend for drifting. This looks like the move.
you should do a video on how to drive in the snow
Pretty much any car is competent in the winter with dedicated snow tires. Heck I've been through many winters with in Buffalo with real wheel drive muscle cars and regular all season tires. Just drove home in snow tonight in my 2012 Mustang 5.0 with BFG G-Force Comp2 AS tires. 255's in the front and 285's in the back. Not ideal but doable. Just have to take it easy, be smooth, and use common sense. With narrow dedicated snow tires it would be EZPZ.
Kevin Breese oh jeez, mustang in the wild. 👀😰
Frank Castle lol
I need more snow... Love drifting in my Mazdaspeed 6. It's just the best time to have in the snow!
how do you drift fwd
@@ismaelgomez2158 why are you asking me? Mazdaspeed 6 = AWD
how well do these tires go for hills, i know blizzak ws80 has the studs in their tire to help them climb hills, i havn't ordered them yet tho ive been to the snow with my stock wheels up a mountain but the snow wasn't too deep but im sure it will be the next time i go and i wanted to know would it be better if i have blizzak ws80 with its studs or will this be good enough
Please show that 850 r in the snow too!
Traction control off helps alot. Trust me 😁
Really looking at getting a new 2018 BRZ in the spring, and my only concern has been driving it in the winter (I'm in northwest PA). Been watching as many videos as I can, and it definitely looks doable with the right tires. My only real concern is how the car would handle snow covered hills as I live in an area with lots of them, and I've only found a few videos that talk about that aspect.
Geese1 don’t mess around with rwd if you have hills trust me Ice hits you need awd to make it up those hills. I have an awd 3 series with all seasons and I went through 2 feet of snow and Ice this weekend like nothing.
BMW life 203 I've been planning different routes I can take if need be, but there's still one or two sections where I don't have a choice. Currently have a 2015 Forester XT with Blizacks and haven't had any issues, but going to rwd does give me some concern.
I would find a way to test drive both an AWD and RWD system the same day in wintry conditions and hopefully in an area where you can actually slide the thing and feel where you lose grip on roads that simulate what you typically drive on. Otherwise you'll never know and without driving to the limit be able to see if it makes a lick of difference for where you live. For instance I used to live on a mountain that strongly urged (required) the use of chains and I found out why they require them when I slid backwards 80 feet into a guardrail in a RAM 1500 on an 16% grade. Had all seasons on. Pretty sure I'd either have needed chains or studded ice tires that night. So even in 4WD-lo I was toast.
You'll be fine, do it! When in doubt, power out!
Kyle Drexler Unfortunately that's not possible. The only dealer around me doesn't have any BRZs (since they don't sell in this area), so I'll be factory ordering one. These aren't huge hills I'm dealing with, but there are several I can't avoid on my way to work. I should be okay, but it is a concern.
You should do Wisconsin next
And I'd love to drive more often on snow covered roads like this. But usually the clean-up crews are too quick here.
Do you need to change your wheels to get that tire size or would you be able to get that size in your description with stock wheels?
Thanks for this video, you might guess by my username that I know exactly where you are driving lol. I am thinking about getting a rear wheel drive car for here in michigan so i'm looking for all the resources and videos I can find.
Really? Which ones? WS70? I've only experienced WS80s and love them on the BRZ. Heard bad things about Contis tho.
Why not get the good blue tinted wide side mirrors? Those were the first things I got for the BRZ back in 2014. One of best mods. I believe they are called Rexspeed or something
Can you get by without snow tires when driving in the snow?
No, gotta have good snows
We had 3 inches of snow in Belgium and it was panic all along, but djeez I would love to be there in michigan with an Audi Quattro or so :D
dude you should get a suba.. never mind and great video thanks
What exhaust do you have on it? It sounds great
Would the base 2019 corolla hatch wheels be good winter wheels?
Where can I get my hands on these Compomotive th2?
I have also the same tires but i cant drive on snow? I have lowered car i think that is the problem
i cant even drive with that much snow in my 4wd V6 rav4
Don't they clear the snow from the road where you live?
Geez, do you guys not have snowplows? Highways are usually covered in salt during winter over here.
Maxis Blog This past snowstorm in Michigan it snowed for at least a day and a half, they cleared it once it stopped snowing.
Great video. I am currently looking to buy the new gr86 in auto premium as my daily driver. Living in Norway and have similar winter conditions. How do you cope with salted roads and car maintaing during winter?
Spraying the underbody with Fluid film, Krown, or any oil-based rust inhibitor will work great to minimize rust 👍
@@TheTopher Thanks! I plant on doing a full rustprotection, ppf and coating upon delivery. And wash the car when its needed. 👍
Did you turn off traction? I dont see it blinking
Why aren't your streets getting cleared? I've never seen a freeway with that much snow on it.
Serious question, do you leave the traction control on or off in the snow? We just got our first snow up in MA and I feel like my new 86 is less controllable with the TC on, which is counter intuitive.
The BRZs traction control (at least pre-17) is abysmal so yeah, I pretty much turn it off on every drive
What’s the phone mount you’re using?
Charlie A mountec on amazon 👍
what causes the crickets noise?
so let me get this straight...in the north you drive in drift mode all winter? Is that about right?
pretty much the only way to turn in the snow with this thing
Hey! What is the phone holder you have?! Please. :)
should i turn traction control off, while driving in the snow? or should i keep it on (i drive a e92 320d)
If you have to ask, leave it on 👍
What's all this white stuff all over the ground?
What was the weels
im a splended driver but with my luck i probably wouldve flipped over and gon to hell if i wouldve tried drifting out an exit like that
Does better in the snow than my Saab with all seasons lol
I also have 235s on it lol
*Well no turd, he has WinterContact Si, one of the best snow tires available in the market right now, compared to your all seasons...*
Sow tyres win over drivetrain layout. If not in traction, then in braking and steering... Always.
@topher what about on ice
Which blizzaks did you have, and are you comparing these Conti's to the Blizzaks near the end of their life?
I had WS80s. The Blizzaks were very slightly better overall in the snow and ice, but I've found their dry and wet traction to be a lot worse than the Continentals (from beginning to end of their life).
So I shouldn’t ride in the winter on stock 215/45/17 Winter Tires?
You’ll probably be fine, but id highly recommend going with a taller and narrower tire than stock. Something like a 205/55/17 would be good, or even better a taller 16” tire/wheel
I have a used set of blizzak ws80 dot 2017 with new tread depth
And used set of the conti si 2017 dot with new tread depth of 10/32nds
Did you miss the extra tread depth from the blizzaks at all?
Would be going on a 600awhp s4
Which do you prefer between the blizzaks and conti si?
@@joepearlzz8504 i actually preferred the continental si
Super quiet and smooth
Handle great for winter tires
@@audirx8 besides the smoothness and noise level, which performed better in deep snow and ice?
Take the ND miata out in the snow see how it drives.
SKRT
those rear tires are so full of snow youve been sending it
Rip, I gotta pull the ebrake in my civic if I wanna have fun like this.
Triple259772 not doable in the 2016+ Si with that electric e-brake. :(
I’m in the military I have a brz but summer tires cause Ga weather but I live in Ohio I have to drive there I’m December u think I’ll be okay if I just don’t drive like a douche ?
Rear wheel drive is WAAAAAAAAAY better in snow, than front wheel drive.. You always tend to over steer with FWD, and with RWD you can enter, what I call a "Controlled Drift". Making cornering a bit better in snow, as you demonstrated in the video.
I think you mean understeer. oversteer is drifting. for the general public FWD is better, if you're either over OR under steering, you're going too fast. If you need to do a "controlled drift" because you're understeering, you're going too fast. FWD can pull the car through limited traction, RWD will need more skill to modulate to keep the rear in check.
Yeah right Under steer.. I keep confusing those two.
As Walter Röhrl once said: "Oversteer is when the passenger is scared. Understeer is when *I* am scared."
Regarding what is better for the average person... I tend to disagree with gwot.
Yes, FWD will get the average person moving much easier than RWD in the snow. But understeer is much harder to control than oversteer. Understeer in an FWD car, you open the steering and reduce throttle. But when you are going too fast and you don't open the steering enough and are to hectic getting the right foot of, the car will snap into oversteer. And now the average driver will have a problem. The more the suspension is set up to "safely understeer", and the more the weight distribution is front-heavy, the more abrupt this transition will be. Take old (80s and 90s) Audis, for example. They always understeer and plough straight ahead. Until they suddenly don't. And when they bite you, they are so fast and violent, that even an experienced driver with lots of track time will have a hard time controlling that.
So our inexperienced, scared driver has always experienced understeer, ad now suddenly finds the back end in front of him. No chance to catch this, if this is your first time.
Luckily, there are properly set-up FWD cars too. Take old SAAB 900 (pre-GM), take Ford Focus (all generations) for example. These have a quite lively rear end - this might feel unstable to your grandma, but these cars are much easier to control, as they communicate clearly what they are up to, and the transition between oversteer and understeer is more of an area in which you can move and dance, and not an on/off switch. Unfortunately, that requires some understanding of driving physics, a little bit of feel for the car and some practice - all of which the average driver lacks.
In a RWD car on the other hand, controlling oversteer is simple and intuitive. Steer in the other direction and back of the throttle. No bad surpises here. You need a bit of practice here, but as that is fun and more importantly, can be done at relatively slow and less frightening (and less dangerous) speeds, an RWD driver is more likely to have done his homework.
But where does the notion of oversteer being safer come from? Easy. That is because manufacturers typically assume that the average driver cannot drive and is going to freeze at the first sign of trouble instead of reacting properly. Pushing over the front tyres when understeering, the car loses speed, and if you have enough room left, the car will eventually come to a speed where the tyres can steer again. So, given enough room, understeer in an FWD car will correct itself, if you do nothing. And if you do not have enough room left, it is A LOT better to crash straight on into an obstacle, where your crumple zone can absorb the impact, than to spin into the obstacle sideways, leaving you with next to no crumple zone. 65km/h head on into a tree, and you'll probably be fine - especially as wou won't be going 65 at the time of impact anymore, but rather 50, as the car pushing over it's front tyres will lose speed rapidly. 65km/h sideways into a tree and you are dead. The trouble starts when in spite of manufacturer expectations, you somehow DO react, though... than the understeering car requires much more skill.
Does anyone know if 16in wheels fit a BRZ with the performance pack?
c bam I'm thinking 16's are out of the question for the performance pack brakes. There are a few threads on ft86 that outline what fits, with some 17's having issues with their spoke design or without spacers . Still, not a huge deal. You could get by just fine in the winter on 17s and 215 or 205 snows.
c bam braid wheel
Hey man what navigation app is that
waze
It is fun I just hate driving in the crap they put on the roads
Would you recommend this as a first RWD manual sports car? I’m going to be in the market next year and I wanna try something different and I want a subie again.
Heck yeah, I've loved owning this Brz
TheTopher okay cause I plan on getting one but was iffy on it since I live in upstate NY
Where is this country?
The United States. Lol
Can you help out? The MX5, BRZ or 86?
Thomas Chan 86 because toyota appearance. Sssshhh, don’t tell them there’s a temporary Subaru engine underneath.
old volvo :-P
focus RS
Truepk no thanks. AWD maintenance is too expensive.
Both. BRZ and MX-5 😂