This New All-Season Tire Promises To Be ALMOST As Good As a Blizzak Snow Tire - I Put It To The Test
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- This New All-Season Tire Promises To Be ALMOST As Good As a Blizzak Snow Tire - I Put It To The Test
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#Blizzak #Snowtires #Bridgestone
I have the Blizzak DM-V2 and they are like Velcro on snow. They totally changed winter driving for me.
In a bad way??? 😂
@Self Made Auto I know, I was jk
It's a great feeling having a set of Blizzaks under you. Being able to drive past or around other drivers when the roads are crap, knowing you can steer and avoid and stop takes all the stress away. Simply the best winter rated tire money can by in my opinion.
I recently bought the Michelin X ice snow winter tires and drove up from Houston tx to Bozeman Montana. Went through Yellowstone on the 28th to Cooke city and back. For reference they’re on my RWD Jaguar XJ8. Not once, going through ice, snow or anything did I loose traction and when it snowed 12+ inches in Fort Collins during the winter storm last Tuesday the car was totally planted and fine. I’d unconditionally recommend these winter tires to anyone and am super happy with their performance in all the conditions I faced.
DM-V2's on my SUV, handle Canadian winters well. I run a snowflake rated AT tire in the summer and it's nice in case we get an early season bit of snow, but real winter tires are still 100% necessary for, well, real winter...
Blizzak is the best believe me I live in Quebec Canada we Canadians know winter stuff pretty well. All seasons will never perform well no matter how they try.
Remember the worst winter driving danger is around 0c not -30c.
Blizzaks really are amazing! I have a Civic & FJ Cruiser. My FJ Cruiser I've always used Duratrac tires. Which are amazing! Can go through anything and never get stuck. Great in winter.
BUT. When I put Blizzaks on my Civic, I was AMAZED! Honestly, if I keep the FJ in 2WD, the Civic is better in snow and ice (as long as snow isn't like a foot+ deep, then the FJ wins of course). The Civic is FWD as well, so that helps (FJ is RWD until put into 4WD). But really, I take my Civic out more than my FJ in winter because the Civic is so fun and grippy with the Blizzaks! If there is a bad and deep snow storm, of course I take out the FJ in 4wd.
But if you are debating getting some winter tires, just do it! You will be grateful to have them!
A traction demonstration like this might be helped with an inset video showing the speedometer and traction warning lights, so we can see differences in speed and gross movements.
Watch Tyre Reviews channel. He has exhaustive videos that include North American tires.
The first time I saw how good a dedicated snow tyre is on ice, was last year while stopping on a ice patch on an inclined road waiting for the vehicle in front to climb (that vehicle had all seasons on) put the handbrake on and I got off the car and I was like Bambi, couldn't stand up, but the car was planted there on the inclined icy road, it was unbelievable. Those tyre sipes got the car glued to the ice!
Thank for recommending.I bought a set on tire4coin. All recommendations for them.
I have Nokian WRG4 tires which are similar. They're an "all weather" tire that *IS* 3 peak mountain snowflake rated, but can still be driven in the summer.
I love my Nokians!
How long have they lasted? My friends say that on such a heavy car like my Acura RDX, they wear very quick.
@@Newyen6MT I have only had them on for a little over a year, on a RAV4, which is not terribly heavy. So far so good!
@@VideosOffRoad Gotcha! I’ve been trying to find new tires. Either the Bridgestone Alenza Ultra, pirelli scorpion verde 2 or scorpion as+ 3. Not getting another Michelin, and continental tires suck. Lol
I've got Michelin X-Ice on a 18 Fit cvt and Toyo Open Country at3 (three peak rated) on a 99 XJ. In almost Canada Vermont I'd be dead without them. PEOPLE FOR THE LOVE OF ANYTHING HOLY, GET SNOW TIRES!
We have the Blizzak WS80s on our 2016 Escape and I've had 2 sets of X-Ices (Xi3 and X-Ice) on my Fusion, and I much prefer the Michelins. The blizzaks are incredibly loud, but I'll admit they're incredible in the snow.
@@jpf1978 The Michelins are almost as good on snow/ice but much quieter. If I lived in Alaska or North Dakota where there's snow on the roads 99% of the winter, I'd go blizzak, but for here in MA where it's mostly dry, cold roads, I'd go with Michelins. Next I'd like to try Vredestein.
@@jpf1978 - there are many trades with tires,,,,, traction vs longevity, but you actually can design an excellent winter tire that doesn’t have to be as loud as the Blizzaks. This has been the case for decades. I owned a tire shop from 1979 - 2019. This trade off has always been out there but there are limitations. It is not quite so extreme as how much louder Blizzaks are vs the Michelin X-Ice, especially the most recent version of the X-Ice. Interestingly, Michelin offers a mileage warranty on them I can’t think of another winter tire that does,,,,,,.
Interesting. I just finished my 5th season on a set of WS80, and only the last season I started to hear them. Seemed quiet to me always.
@@stevemason325 part of it is also the Fusion is quieter than our Escape but even on my sister's ES300 I found the WS80s to be louder than the X-Ices. They're still great tires, but after 50% wear they get very loud.
People are stubborn. I live in Alberta, Canada and it's common to get into arguments over the necessity of winter tires. There's a huge chunk of the population that seems to think that they're so good as a driver that they can get buy just fine on all seasons. Or worse, they think they don't need winter tires because they've got an AWD car.
how do all weather tires do in the prairies? They are great in BC, ON and lots of folks use them in QC as well. Mine worked fine even in snowstorms up the mountains, no traction issue whatsoever even on ice.
Are you kidding, I can drive in that type of weather with a Summer tire! I drive like Bond...James bond 007 🤣
Sacrificing dry and winter grip everyday by thinking about one or two days in deep snow isn't wise either. Look at something like cross climate 2 performance in snow. Tires balance wet and dry grip in different temperature, snow grip, cost, trade wear by choosing material and design. Not one thing is built for everyone.
I’m such a good driver, I can change the grip my tire has with the road with my mind. 😉
Just the type of video I have been looking for snow tire vs good all season thank you, just wish you did some of the braking, acceleration and handling tests to show the true difference
I have WS-80s or 90 on my Civic. I love them for winter. They are mounted on their own wheels and I swap them for the winter. While they do cost extra, I think they do save my all season tires because I can wait a little longer to replace them since they don’t see snow.
that's one of the best setups: light car - nothing beats weight reduction, skinny tires.... only drawback vs awd is acceleration
I moved from something like this to a brand new audi a5.... blizzaks and all... but i need to be aware of my inertia a lot more than before. Now pick-up is on a different level:)
My problem is I'm too hard on tires in general and our winter weather is up and down constantly anymore. Negatives today, 40's and 50's next week. I get about 25k out of a set of all season tires. My Viking Contact winters have about 8,000 miles with 6/32 left.
i got 265 70 R17 Kumho HT 51's on my Silverado 4x4 and they are snowflake rated. they do very well even on snow and ice. summertime they also seem to do well. I paid like 500 for the set at tirerack and picked them up at their distribution center. I would recommend them, and I have only ever bought continentals or michelins in the past.
Can you guys compare Michelin CrossClimate2 with dedicated winter tires like Michelin X-Ice, Continental VikingContact7, and Nokian Hakkapillitas R3?
just read the autobild 2021 all season tyre test lol, the folks in EU call them all seasons while we call them all weathers, I personally stopped using winter tires as my all weather feels just as safe in the snow/ice, can't justifying doing 2 swaps per year when there is no benefits lol.
The new Cooper Discoverer EnduraMax I’ve used in the snow and they are quite good. They’re all season but 3 peak snow rated so they handle well in the hot summer and in the snowy winter.
2 inputs at the same time is how I got stuck in a snow storm a couple of years ago. About 9" of snow, Altima with all seasons. Managed to get through it until I got to my house, where I had to turn onto a different street.
I have been driving in Quebec winters for 46 years and I currently run Bridestone WS90 winter tires on my 2019 Subaru Outback. A base model with steel rims. Over the years I have tried many brands of tires and admitedly what I drove on 30 & 40 years ago does not qualify for comparison but say in the last 10 ten years on Subarus I am of the opinion that Bridgestone is the absolute best I have used. Not marginally but remarquably better than Nokian and Hakkapelita which I have used on other Subarus and also Michelin. I back to back test on a great AWD car like an Outback or Forester or a Mitsubichi using WS90 versus Michelin versus Pirelli versus Continental versus BF Goodrich and Goodyear versus one or two Chinese brands is long overdue... I confess to have become a huge fan of Bridgestone and wonder if that would prove me right...
Love the Blizzak DM-V2 tires on the wife's 2016.5 fwd CX-5. Would definitely buy these again.
Blizzak has been around at least as early as 1985. That was the first set I bought and they were for a new 1985 Honda CRX Si. The difference on that really light car was like night and day in the slippery stuff. I have purchased them for every car I have owned since.
I live in Utah and I have Michelin Ice, when I go up and down the canyons to the ski 🎿 resorts ( I do Uber) like Damian Stoy said they are very sticky soft, much better driving specially in the late or early hours of the night and the snow has turn to ice, I have been doing this ( two set of tires) for many years
I just got the Blizzaks LM005 put on my Tiguan FWD with a 6 speed Manual, I Really Notice a great difference what traction I now have. I must say that the Bridgestones you guys tested are not Sold here in Germany.
I live in Colorado. Have driven RWD vehicles for 20 years. Mostly Mercedes and F150. Winter tires make a huge difference! Usually used Bridgestones. My wife drives a AWD TourX. While getting started traction was ok on the stock all seasons, braking, turning and overall control is 100% better on her winter tires, Cooper Discover True North.
(How is the TourX? Thinking about trying to find one for my family.)
I wonder how the Michelin CrossClimate 2's would compare, I had them on my previous FWD car it was extremely grippy
I recently bought the Michelin X ice snow winter tires and drove up from Houston tx to Bozeman Montana. Went through Yellowstone on the 28th to Cooke city and back. For reference they’re on my RWD Jaguar XJ8. Not once, going through ice, snow or anything did I loose traction and when it snowed 12+ inches in Fort Collins during the winter storm last Tuesday the car was totally planted and fine. I’d unconditionally recommend these winter tires to anyone and am super happy with their performance in all the conditions I faced.
Yes, this would be good to see. I just purchased the crossclimate 2’s
SH-AWD is amazing. The MDX is so pretty, but what a cool experience I'm sure this was.
It really is. People tend to conflate torque bias and rpm. For example a locker biases torque but keeps consistent RPM. In a turn a locker, posi, torsen will all try to bias torque to the inside wheel because they are mechanically forcing it to drive faster than the road speed. Hondas diff actually changes the ratios between the input/carrier and the carrier/ outputs so it will over drive the outside wheel while preventing wheel slip.
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That’s why E diffs are popular because they will only lock up when needed and can allow better unlocked diff action most of the time. Hondas is the opposite, it locks its clutches and improves performance. No need to find the balance between lock up/ traction/ and turn in.
@Self Made Auto That is not accurate at all. There are very big differences between AWD systems.
@Self Made Auto Not the same "snowflake"
I'm sticking with the winter tires. That loss of traction as the car goes into a curve is not worth the trouble of running on All Season Wonders.
Or just slow down, drive at appropriate speeds for the conditions..as you would outside of winter weather...🤔
Snow tires are absolutely the way to go… I have lived in Canada my whole life, they are a necessity here.
How does the AS Bridgestone compare to the Michelin CrossClimate 2's?
I just put these Bridgestone AS Ultras on my WK2. Up in the Northeast, getting some snow miles on them. Very impressed so far. This is also one of the first reviews I've seen on these tires. Great video TFL.
I am intrigued with the new AS ultra. Have you ever had the Michelin defender LTX? I am thinking of putting one of these two on a hybrid like the new 2022 Lexus NX 350h
@@william6765 I switched to these from the Defender LTX. I find the AS to be as good in the snow with a bit better wet traction. Just as quiet and comfortable of a ride too. I think the LTX had better hydroplaning resistance but the AS perform better on wet roads. AS also has a better mileage warranty. The reason I switched was the Michelins never balanced right from new and shook on the highway pretty bad. I finally had enough. Not to mention Michelin customer service was a BEAR to deal with.
I just got the AS Ultra, Snow hasnt hit Michigan yet. But after 2 years do you still like the ULTRAS?
Nokian is my favorite snow tire
For the "don't waste your money, it doesn't snow here, I know how to drive" folks. By swapping tires in the winter, you extend the life of your summer or all-season. That said, for an area like Chicago that gets its fair share of cold and also slushy sloppy mess every winter, I think the new generation "all weather" tires with the 3 peak mountain snowflake designation and the ability to keep them on year round is a good compromise and maybe even better than putting on pure winter tires. Because, for one, some pure snow/winter tires are actually not great in wet conditions whereas the chevron like blocking tread patterns of say a Cross Climate2 or Vredenstein Quatrac is great at clearing out wet slop and connecting the tire to the road.
I agree. I live in Chicago and I replaced the stock Continental all season tires which came with my '22 Civic Hatchback with Cross Climate2s. I don't drive in deep snow but frequently encounter rain, slush, serious cold and thin snow. I think this is the most practical, simple and safe solution. If I drove in more severe conditions I would go the winter tire route.
As long as the city or town does some plowing and sanding like in the northeast, I have done fine with a good all season tire like the Michelin Defender LTX M/S
Every year the equivalent to Consumer Report and AAA here in Norway sort of scientifically tests winter tires. Though the last test had Goodyear Ultra Grip Arctic 2 and Michelin X-Ice North 4 on top, most years tires from Nokian Hakkapeliitta and Continental are the winners. However, I seldom even see a Bridgestone Blizzak figuring on the top 10 lists, either the studded or the non-studded versions. I don't know what that says about Blizzak, but for myself I'm choosing tires based on what's proven best for reasonably heavy SUV/trucks at a reasonable price and swear to studded Cooper Discoverer or Weathermaster for my Jeep WJ. I totally trust them with a solidly iced, steep and long driveway 4 months/yr and keep them for max 4 yrs for optimal rubber softness.
The nokian hakkapalita are amazing!
Just put Cooper snow tires on my Bronco Sport. The day I had them installed the roads were snow covered and VERY slippery. The difference is indescribably different! Will for sure NOT be putting the factory junk tires back on. You guys need to put real all terrains on and do a fare test of the Bronco Sports capabilities!
Living in a hot weather state, I see only rain and heat. Occasionally I like to venture out of state and drive to a state to go sking. I've been trying to decide between the Bridgestone Alanza AS Ultra, Michelin defender LTX M/S, or the Continental Cross Contact LX25. I know the Cross Climate 2 has awesome reviews, but in the hot weather I'm in, I fear they won't last long. I am still confused which would be the best for occasional snow and majority being in a hot weather state.
I went with the Michelin Cross Climate 2 All Weather tires for our 2022 Hyundai Tucson and they work well. The Michelin Primacy tires that were on it also did remarkably well when we got a 10" + dump of snow. The AWD system I am sure helped out a ton with that as the very same tires (Michelin Primacy) are on our 2021 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid and it sucks in the snow.
please do some tests of " All Weather " tires like Firestone Weather Grip for example.
We're have Bridgestone Alenza Sport AS as factory on our RWD VW id4. They are great in the dry and rain, but completely useless in the snow and ice.
I live in the South of France, even though we are not far from the Med. to go to the next town to get some gas we will have to using all season or snow tyres, at only 450 metres above sea level, seems crazy to me.
Same price as the cross climate 2 with less inclement weather performance, the trade off seems to be more tread life, a possibility quieter(my cc2 are quite no complaints) ride and less maintenance hassle on rotations. I will consider these next time. I had Bridgestone dulers before I bought my cc2 but they where good but not even in the same league as cc2 when the weather gets bad.
also better gas mileage on the alenza
@@ladev91 true, i do probably see a 1-2 mpg difference in the cross climate tires over my Bridgestones, so I guess the determining factor would be what kind of weather you see in the winter time. I'm in the Midwest Ohio pa area, you definitely want some good tires before the plowing sucks and we can get some decent snow, all though I will say this last year was the worst In a while. But when I say the cross climate tires are in a different league in the winter time and the rain I really mean it this is one tire that truly lives up to the hype
I think it would be useful if you had a break, acceleration test. Also making a circle with the max speed of each tyre would be greatl.
Thank you
Alenza as ultra isn't recently new. Weatherpeak is much newer and is my top pick in applicable sizes.
How does this compare to Michelin Cross Climate 2? That is an all season / weather tyre with a 3pmsf rating. The M&S rating is self-accredited and basically meaningless.
any chance yu guys will test the new nokian outpost at?
interesting video, i have been trying to decide on a good set of winter tires for my car. i would love to see you guys make a more indepth video comparing all season to winter tires similar to what you did with the summer vs all weather tires on the mini.
Fun and cool cars! The bright colors look good with the snow and mountain backdrop! I have Blizzak DM V2's on my vehicle and I love them. Up here in the upper mid-West (Michigan) they come in handy.
Thinking about Firestone weathergrip. Dont want to change tires every winter. Weathergrip has to to be better than regular all season.
Interesting. Am confused why Bridgestone doesn't simply make an all weather tire like a number of other companies have? Boasting their new tire's "almost" a winter tire seems a little pointless.
Pleasantly surprised about the Alenza as this tire came as OE on my Toyota Highlander 2022 AWD with torque vectoring. I drove from my home in Houston to Ourey, CO for Christmas. I’ve never felt unsafe on the million dollar highway as the car was very predictable. Not sure i would ever try go with for a 2nd winter though with additional mileage.
Y'all should have done a blind test. Drive both and try to guess which car had the true snow tire.
It’s very noticeable!
The oldest operating winter driving school is the Great Lakes snow belt.
Is there head to head comparison of two different winter tires? It’s always all-season vs snow vs summer
I love the blizzaks. I would suggest buying a cheap wheel set up to go with them. Mounting, balancing and repeat 2x a year is not only costly but annoying. I have both blizzaks and atturo ats and honestly the ats are just a tad bit under the blizzaks on stopping. Everything else I would take the atturo every time and I don't have to change them out every season.
Love all the research and testing you guys do!! Always great videos as well!
We already have that tire. It's called the CrossClimate 2.
I really don't understand why someone would want a tire "almost" as good as a winter tire when they can just get a dedicated winter tire and have all the benefits.
Some people don’t want to switch tires or buy two sets of tires🤷🏼♀️
The moment the weather warms, those winter tires get destroyed. Not everyone wants to go through buying and storing different sets of tires.
not always worth it, ill save thousands vs people like you who buy and/or swap them out every year, nah im good i know how to drive on "almost" as good.
I have been using general grabber 2 all terrains with the sypes and three peak mountains logo for 3 and a half years now and they are awesome. The Blizzaks look good too. I stay in Scotland where the temperatures can fluctuate enormously from day to day and would either need to constantly change the dedicated winter tyres or watch them wear rapidly. Grabber gives me best of both worlds
@@k9feces exactly
Why no actual benchmarks comparing the tires? Like starting from a stopped position, and seeing which one grips first, and braking hard and seeing which one has the shortest braking distance? You didn't really put anything to the test, like the title says. /shrug
Omg, I just recently asked you guys why Bridgestone Blizzaks isn't outfitting your vehicles since you don't live that far and so many people watch your channel. Next up is to see a test against your jeep Willy's with the MT tires against a jeep with Blizzaks
I had no idea you guys were in Steamboat, cool. Sort of, there are definitely more interesting places to go.
As a Canadian this video is funny. Seems more like an Acura SUV video.
Winter tires have saved my life a few times. Once is enough to not worry about the price. Fn transport trucks on Canadas only road drive like they got their license in an underfunded, pay to play, privatized, government incentivized rubber stamp factory.
I wonder if using something less sophisticated (without the SH-AWD system) wouldn't have highlighted the difference between the two tyres better?
I wonder how the new Bridgestone all season compares to the Michelin defender LTX m/s.
This might be a good review!
Moving to Colorado just to drive on that ice course.
I’d like to see these new Bridgestone tires go head to head with the new Michelin Cross Climate 2, which is what I have on my Jetta.
Late Apex, interesting! Thanks.
I put Weatherpeaks on my wife's Outback, but I am yet to see anyone test it.
I need to see that one tested. Here in Northern Ohio it seems like we hardly get enough snow to justify winter tires. And it's supposed to go from negatives today to 55F on New Years Day. Prime example. Still got Viking Contacts on my car.
@@jasonashley9853 Im waiting for a review as well. I live in southern ohio, -7 one week, 65 the next. Dedicated winter tires just don't make sense here.
@@jake0869 they don't really make sense in northern Ohio anymore either. Been easy for the most part up here this winter. And the next couple weeks aren't showing any signs of it changing.
I like Bridgestone tires. Appreciate the comparison.
This video felt like watching a commercial or an ad, and didn't feel very honest. Your previous video "This Test Proves You NEED Proper Tires To Safely Tackle Winter Weather!" felt like it was a real video/test with real honesty. Hopefully this isn't the video you mentioned when you stated you were doing a all-weather vs winter tires.
I enjoy a lot of TFL content, but if you want more detailed and precision tire reviews, Tyre Reviews does exceptional work. th-cam.com/video/A3WssIxusLU/w-d-xo.html
There was not much of a comparison in this video, rather more on how to drive in the snow and what both tires can do.
The Stig mentions this in his book by Ben Collins
But it DOESNT have a 3 peak rating like Michelin crossclimate
Can't beat Michelin Crossclimate 2 for all season tire on snow.
I have lived in snowy areas before and never had snow tires. I have no doubt they help but I think technique is more important. As they described gentle inputs, one type of input at once and you can get anywhere. I used to own a Chevrolet Caprice SW and drove that in the snow. One of the worst vehicles you can imagine. Heavy engine at the front, rear wheel drive with not a lot of weight over it. I never got stuck even driving in a foot of snow. I would recommend snow tires if you live somewhere like Colorado but technique is still equally important.
But yall not thinking, alot of people don't have money to but snow tires and then buy sumer tires. Tires prices are crazy, you can buy a used car for new tires prices.
All terrain v all season v winter. ?
I didn't come for snow-blowing drifting supercar shots but...lap times and braking test comparisons would have added weight and authority to this "driving impressions" video.
Thanks to Acura and Bridgestone.
Do dually truck vs single wheel truck in snow
I can break gas and stare at the same time call the brakes stand
I might have to wear just all season when i get the Taycan as i don’t want to swap to ugly wheels in winter.
Why not build a 3 peak rated tire instead of an all-season that is almost as good? The best tires on snow are designated winter tires and 3 peak rated all weather tires.
i have ko2 all terrain on my jeep its a tank in the snow
WEAR IS THE STUDS
Acura would've probably made 15% more in sales if not for that retro-minded infotainment.
Thats what steered me away
No metric, times, maximum speeds at various points on the track, common' - you mkay know how it felt, but we don't.
All foreign cars are jockey but good review On tires
to bad the new bridgestone weather peaks were not out when this was made.
Great job ltzig Schwartz guys.
Lolol no no no. Only the Michelin CC2 is truly an actual great winter all-weather “all season” tire
nope
Shawd? lol good 1, super handling all wheel drive
The problem with Blizzaks, if they are still making them this way, is that the bottom half of the tread compound is just regular all-season and when the top layer of multi-cell compound wears off they turn into terrible snow tires. Slickest tires I ever had on a FWD Altima.
1:45 "An All Season tire that means its a 3 season tire" thats super confusing to the average consumer who isnt a car person... maybe the tire manufacturers need to change the names because thats just ridiculous
Had to look twice because i thought they were using a Cx5
Thanks much but without instrumented testing, waste of time. Usually you do that, So I kept waiting and you never did that. But since you put out so much unique content, do not mind the lost time
You guys do pretty good car, truck reviews but are pretty lousy at tire reviews. Not enough technical knowledge and if you have the knowledge you certainly aren't sharing it. This felt more like a "hey look at us out on the snow and ice in an Acura MDX!" Video than and actual tire comparison video. You didn't talk enough about tire construction, compounds, tread pattern or cost comparison of the tires. Though you did mention at the end about how the Blizzak tire would be too soft in the warmer months and the All Season works okay year round.
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Where is the test? Where is the braking meters? This isn't test its just talking video and you just say winter is better than all season
The new Michelin CrossClimate 2 All Season tire is a 3 Peak Tire....
That's why I'm getting them next winter.
@@ml9867 The same here, I drive a Tesla Model Y and they will be releasing them in my size this summer.
They are an all weather tire.
@@Redhawk24 Absolutely, but they also have a 3 Peak Rating...
@@michaelholliday100 all weather is different from all season…