The Fifth Defender - Marvel's Defenders
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.พ. 2025
- Defenders should have been an absolute blast. It was...fine. The Defenders themselves worked pretty well together and there were some creative action sequences. But the series was weighed down by a predictable plot and a villain that made next to no sense.
But it was also missing something: a moment. Something to tie the Defenders further into the Marvel Netflix universe and raise the stales for the final fight. So, I've added a scene that should deliver that moment and set up some fun opportunities for a future Marvel Netflix series.
Watch til the end.
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*It should've been the Stilt-man.*
If Stilt-Man was there, he wouldn't have fixed things long before the Defenders had to get involved.
These hired guys always come up... short. *stilts away*
I'm imagining a tall man with metal legs squatting while fighting ninjas in the cave.
*sigh* If only we could go back in time.
Jason Wong thank you.
@@NandovMovies do you think you can fix Luke Cage season 1 and Jessica Jones season 2 that would be really great if you can do that for me please
Just gotta say, Turk is the lowkey Stan Lee of the MCU shows. He's in each show, even if it seems like he shouldn't be. Sure, Claire and Karen and Foggy are there, but that's only because they are direct support characters to the mains. Turk is in each show for a smidgen of time. Like Stan Lee.
He's an interesting one. He's kinda turned into a joke but he started out as some sort of human trafficker. I had forgotten that until I rewatched Season One.
@Greg Elchert It's just business for him, he isn't probably a psycho. But yeah, that human trafficking stuff still kind of messes up his character.
I watched Stranger Things just after a binge of Daredevil season 1+2 and Jessica Jones. Everytime I saw the deputy who is played by the same actor as Turk I thought for a second that Daredevil would come out of the shadows to punch the Demogorgon.
When I heard you say guns loading I thought “Punisher?” But your scene addition was way better
If only Frank Castle did show up...
and now it has been erased because dd s3 was very epic
That fisk... you managed to basically nail that strange way that he sort of occasionally swallows a big gulp of air.. Like he's swallowing a bunch of words.
Fisk is probably the best thing from the whole Netflix series
Thanks! Having watched pretty much All of Daredevil in the last few weeks, I totally agree. Fisk is so interesting. And the "Good Samaritan" monologue is terrific.
I literally just finished rewatching this last night... that's fun.
Also, I almost immediately thought you were gonna say The Punisher instead of Fisk for the 5th Defender.
Also, I was more than glad that they showed Matt being alive still in the pre credit scene. It would have been devastating to the Daredevil fan base if they didn't.
i thought the same
I think the bigger problem with trying to hide Matt's survival is that nobody would buy it for very long. We'd know the second there was a casting call or a set photo or even just because they already announced a third season. You can't make a whole season of television in secret like that, and that's assuming people wouldn't just call bullshit at a glance anyway. It's Infinity War Syndrome: we know the behind the scenes stuff well enough to know when a death won't stick.
50/50 chance he dust now tho
I thought it was going to be about frank too
Me too I thought it would be The Punisher.
I also thought that Electra saves Daredevil as she was immortal and the only way to kill her is to cut off her head. So does this mean that Electra is alive?
I actually shouted "WHO IS IT!?" at my phone when I saw the notification.
I didn't see that coming! Nando pulled an Arrow (CW)! Fisk coming in fixes so much that went wrong in this show. It is not only shocking and engaging but shows villains are not all destroy everything in their path. Great dynamics. Excellent work.
Thanks!
queendsheena1 but how wpuld fisk know about the hands plan though? Also didnt fisk threaten matt?
Just using spies and people on the street to keep an eye on Gao and Murakami.
Exactly! It humanizes Fisk even more. The thing that makes him so great as a villain is how complex he is & the fact that you can't help but feel sorry for him in certain moments (like his upbringing).
Maybe they can add that fisk wants to betray them after the defenders dealt with the hand. But he pulls away after learning matt's "death".
8/10 not enough Fin Fang Foom
Luke and Danny should meet him, just so Luke can finally believe dragons exist.
They can't put that in there the Netflix show is grounded in realism they can't put something like that in there unless they want to go more comic book fantasy like then yeah that would work but no it's just very grounded ps this is for Randompath
@@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 The guy with bulletproof body and the guy with magic fist are grounded?
Your completely different approach to criticism is why I love your stuff. Rather than bash the weak points you fortify them.
I thought Defenders was damn fun personally. Everytime the characters were interacting, I was having a blast.
TheAwesomeDarkNinja yeaah i really enjoyed it too, i was mildly disappointed by that last fight but still enjoyed the season overall so much
I mean, if they REALLY wanted to build the universe then they should have let Fisk cameo in the end credit scene in Spider-Man: Homecoming. Fisk could spend his time fighting in the Netflix ‘verse while at the same time funding the future Sinister Six.
Kyle Stateler YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That would be so good jesus christ
Kyle Stateler
Even if they can’t get the actor, a name drop would be amazing
As Vulture enters he has that quick convo with Scorpion, as Vulture tries walking away when a few inmates stop both of them and one says
“Mr. Fisk would like to have a word with you gentlemen”
psttt the netflix shows practically exist in another universe. I've been really disapointed by how disconnected the films and the shows seem
tell that to fucking Sony Pictures.
Oh i almost forgot. Damn that Bullseye end credit scene of yours. That will be awesome. That is how you introduce an interesting and menacing future villain.
That Bullseye idea is GENIUSES!!!
However I think that instead of having the Hand as the villain, they should have had the Hood. The Hood could have been a new mob boss who is basically doing everything the Hand was at the beginning, except he's just collecting magical items (rather than the infinity stone like the comic) to make himself more powerful. The items he already has makes him strong enough to duke it out with Luke, turn invisible so only Daredevil can actually fight him, fly for quick escapes if he needs (only Jessica could chase him) and shoot red lightning which can counter the Ironfist. Boom! Powerful, intimidating, villain who has a power set to match the defenders on the few occasions they do fight.
save the best for last we know they can stop kingpin
Solid 10/10 video, I like integrating Fisk into the plot so much, I can't wait to see Fisk come back, think it'll happen in season 3 of Daredevil?
Super Swim Team 7 It’s been confirmed that Vincent D’Onofrio has finished filming his scenes.
Yeah, they’re adapting the Born Again storyline into season 3, so he’s going to be very prominent in it 😂
Have you been under a rock he's been confirmed multiple times
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>Not actively seeking out the production details of a TV show.
>Living under a rock
I'm not seeing the connection here.
AMaliciousMoose Stop acting literal, it’s an expression.
A++ on both of these ideas, and absolutely hit us on the head by not ONLY saying “bullseye”, but make all the crazy weird faces and noises Colin F. made 😄
I had to pause and get some washing done but I just finished seeing the end of the video. That Bullseye reference was golden. I completely missed it in Daredevil since I only know the character from the Daredevil movie. But even then I loved the idea of a villain with such great aim it's practically a superpower. Better than the original with Dardevil in bed. Loved it!
These videos make me smile. Thank you.
Totally love this, but I also think Fisk should be in an earlier episode so that it doesn't feel like he just magically appears
I think that's Nando's point, though. We aren't supposed to see everything. Some of it is meant to be us as viewers only seeing a part of the story (like he pointed out with Coulson and Hawkeye showing up for a quick task before continuing with their other work).
That's actually a pretty good twist
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I could listen to your Fisk voice for hours
Well, I guess you hit the... bull's eye with that last one.
Great job, I think a Punisher cameo at the end would have been awesome.
One of the most well written and creative show analysis videos I've seen on TH-cam. I agree on all points and very nicely done.
I don't watch the Netflix Marvel shows but I was pumped when you announced this vid on Twitter. Seriously, your videos are that good
Well what are you waiting for
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I was thinking about it while you spoke, and it actually wouldn't be a bad idea to have Fisk involved in this way, especially considering Matt supposedly "dies" at the end of Defenders, which then ties into his arc in Daredevil season 3. Since Fisk ultimately gets out of prison and all that during that season, this moment in Defenders would tie nicely to that if it had been included.
"Look up how loud a real silencer is they're very loud" they're called supressors.
is it the city of new York
I wish
I loved in the first two Spiderman movies where the New Yorkers helped out.
Also is the fifth Sex in the City
Your videos are so addicting. Also that Fisk impersonation was perfect!
Man, you make me want so much more from movies and shows. Not sure what I think of that... You are so good at this. You should write all the skripts for every movie, they would all be better for it. Keep up the good work Nando.
YES! Finally your podcast is on Spotify, ill get to listen to it soooo much more now!
Really love these videos. The best thing about these is that it is a very small change
Now I have a name to thank for why the MCU casting is goddamn perfect. Thank you.
Its official I've gone threw everyone of your videos and now must play the waiting game. Love the content, you and tier zoo are my favourite youtubers right now keep it up. 👍
Calling them Heros for Hire would be my change
Gorilla Glue Expert I would have rather seen Iron Fist and Luke Cage go the Heroes for Hire route, as opposed to Iron Fist season 2.
@@davidmcdowell9544 it's funny because both those shows were cancelled. Heroes for Hire is looking like it's a bigger possibility
This is one of your better changes, it's subtle but really clever. Can't wait to see your more major changes to Defenders going forward!
I haven't even watched defenders but I really enjoy your videos so I watched it. Keep up the good work bro, I can tell a lot of time goes into these videos.
Okay wow man, seriously every time that I start disagreeing with your changes in the start in the slightest, you just add to it and make it amazing, really great job man.
This works even better now that they've introduced what appears to be Bulls Eye as the secondary villain in Season 3!
I wouldn’t have minded these scenes. Especially the Bullseye one.
God, Defenders was so garbage. Such a waste. You should make a change to Luke Cage season 1 & it be that the second half villain isn't that corny forgotten brother crap but Suwande (the black guy from The Hand). It drives home that the Hand are everywhere & dangerous + Suwande replacing Cottonmouth & escaping at the end leading into the Defenders would have really showed how badass he & The Hand are. Cottonmouth being "afraid" of that cornball villain at the end of season 1 was lame but him fearing a supposed Immortal African Warlord/Druglord....Now that's badass.
I like that a lot
Nando v Movies holy shit! Never expected a like or reply! Thanks man. I love your channel & videos. Keep up the good work dude. You should start a hashtag #GiveNandoAJob or something bcz you are clearly better then most people working in the industry.
Nando v Movies This may be alot to ask for but can you remake the story for Transformers: The Last Knight
That actually makes sense. And then if they wanted to introduce Diamondback, they could've done it at season 2, since they were focusing more on Luke's family issues, especially with his father. Imagine if Luke's father reconnected with him after the events of Defenders and THEN that's when Diamondback shows up as well. The tension between father/son/sibling would've made for a more compelling drama as well as action.
Defender is good wdym
I listened to your first podcast and instantly fell in love! I immediately got Spotify premium, purely because I could now listen to the podcast on the bus! Love your vid's my dude!
bro, you're a god. these writing ideas are amazing
Thanks, Lord Baskerville!
Your Sherlock Holmes book is the only one I've ever read.
Nice video I actually kinda like having Fisk “on the team” it really works
You don't even need the bullseye reveal. You added a three minute scene, which could easily replace the credit scene of Daredevil being alive. So, if you instead just cut to credits as per usual for Netflix without the extra reveals for upcoming seasons this one little change has major ripple effect and doesn't mess with the format.
We the audience see that Fisk orchestrated his two greatest rivals/threats into destroying one another and managed to come out of the situation with not one but both (seemingly) dead. We would still keep the other defenders talking about his mission and where to go next but we can see in Jessica Jones and Luke Cage (season 2s I mean) that they aren't the right people to take up that fight. It would be a more demonstrable case than merely telling us. And all the while have Fisk consolidating power in DD's absence, but do it in the background since those shows aren't where you show him really taking over.
Then when Daredevil does come back, as we always knew he was going to (what hero stays dead), we feel it like the defenders feel it.
Anyway, great change as always.
This is far superior to what they have - AND it also fits into the comic history of the character. You have an excellent description of world building - it suggests that a lot of stuff can be happen between the issues of a comic - or sequels to a movie. Great job!
Oh my God, that was amazing. Fantastic. Well-done. The bullseye reveal gave me chills. Freaking wonderful. You're my hero, and I love you.
I’m kinda ehhh on the Wilson Fisk inclusion, I understand the reasons why, but I’m just not feeling it, I do like the Bullseye post-credits scene tho 👍🏻
Wow...that was actually pretty damn good. I’m surprised. You always make great content.
EVERY VIDEO JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER AND BETTER JESUS CHRIST
This was really interesting!
I got hopeful that if could maybe be Spider-Man but... I guess I'll just leave... A like! Oh gotem good
I am so got right now. My head is spinning.
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I have to say that your Wilson Fisk impression is SPOT ON!!! Well done, dude!
Punisher. That's all I got.
YOUR WILSON FISK IMPRESSION IS SO GOOD😂When you just said ‘hello’ I knew who it was instantly omg!
I was expecting The Punisher and got excited when you mentioned "A click of a gun loading", but nah Fisk will do haha
Watching this channel is torture, because I now think of all the things these shows could be, and I want to see it, and it'll never happen.
Every time I'm finished watching one of your videos, i think to myself "Damn, it should've totally happend that way". Why hasn't anyone noticed your writing talents and tried to hire you yet?
After a long day of work it's nice to come home to some Nando. Keep up the good work
HOLY GUACAMOLE THAT "Keep them safe" SCENE WOULD HAVE BEEN SO THRILLING
I love it! Not only does it show that Fisk really wants to save New York and will do anything to protect the city he loves, but it also shows how powerful he is. He could've killed the Defenders, particularly Daredevil, from *inside* prison. But nah, he's not gonna do that. Because he's a gentleman.
You sir have my respect! That after credits scene was lovely and even the whole scene between Daredevil and fisk, two thumbs up! Please keep up the reviews and look into writing your own thing, you've got talent bro. Well done!
This video was better than the whole season. Well done.
Great kingpin impression
I enjoy Defenders way more than I should. It's like junkfood for me, seeing my favorite characters interact. This was a great idea, and your point as to why Claire isn't just like Coulson really hits home where the Netflix shows have failed. Great video, and I'd love to see more about the Netflix shows from you.
Watching this whole video, I kept muttering "You're not wrong."
Love the way you wrote the dialogue for Fisk and even spoke with the same dialect. U cool man!!!
I love Wilson Fisk voice in the show it feels like he flexing every muscle in his stomach while talking which is terrifying when you think about it
I know other people have said this, but I definitely was expecting you say The Punisher, given his history with Daredevil it makes sense.
If The Punisher was in this scene, it would probably start with the ninjas approaching the team but daredevil notes someone else is present. Suddenly a whirling sound is heard, everyone looks across the room to see the Punisher standing in the doorway with a Minigun and effortlessly mows down the ninjas. After some near-hostile banter between the Punisher and the defenders, the punisher reminds them that reinforcements are on the way and if they don't go do what they came here to do he'll take them down and go do it for them. At which point the teams heads down as the Punisher readies his Minigun for the impending waves.
Definitely would have been a way to tie the spinoff to the mini series and finally see The Punisher with the the iconic Minigun that is constantly teased for Daredevil
You actually do a half decent kingpin impression
DUDE!!!! your post credit idea got me so hyped for something that isn't even going to happen.
Thanks and based off of everything we know, something like that will happen in Season 3 anyway.
This Fisk intervention would definitely have made defenders more relevant and actually endearing.
This is amazing!!! You need to be an actual writer or script doctor for movies and television! I love all your videos keep up the great work!
Most underrated channel on TH-cam.
Do a video that fixes DCEU Batman
That seems fairly easy: "Batman shouldn't be a mass murderer."
You probably could do that in just one scene. The only thing that needs fixed there is to make the Lonely Place of Dying connection less vague than just a vandalized Robin suit. Weirdly, I think a conversation between Superman and Alfred would've cleared that up no problem. "He hasn't been the same since Jason died.." *stares forlornly at the suit on display* Bruce is clearly more unstable and is going way farther than usual because of that, and we get a nice moment of characterization for both Clark and Alfred. Problem solved.
There are WAY worse things in the DCEU than a Batman who kills
Otso Tuurna it goes against the character completely
DCEU batman is allright. its easy to identify with his rage. what needs fixing is DCEU superman.. that boy isa product of bad parenting and zero guidance
That Fisk impersonation though was on point!!!!!! Loved the video
Wow... this is probably your best re-write yet, my dude.
Thanks!
You nailed the speech patterns and cadence of Wilson Fisk, man. Good form, sir.
Good idea. It reminds me of how Kingpin saved NYC from a vampire death cult in the early '90s when Marvel brought back Ghost Rider.
I really love this fix. Not only is it some classic shit that comics Wilson Fisk would absolutely pull, but it would help remind the audience that Fisk is different than any other gangster or person of power that we've seen in Daredevil or Luke Cage.
nondo does a good fisk
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The changes you made are absolutely amazing, and I think this is your best episode thus far.If it was like this it would be actually amazing.What also could have been cool is if there were also a MoonKnight reference ,but then the whole sequence would have felt bloated
I think the Fisk part works especially well when you watch dd season 3 but I like the way bullseye was handled in that season and wouldn’t change it (contrary to your pre credits scene)
After watching DD season 3, I am kinda iffy on this whole idea. I’m aware that it wasn’t out yet when this was uploaded, but it kinda throws a wrench in s3. I like the idea for Bullseye though. How it would have played out: Fisk’s men are in a truck, leaving the hand’s building. Then, the FBI shows up, as they believe these men to be body-guards for the hand. Dex pops out of a car, and the scene plays out as you proposed (minus Fisk). That woulda been freakin cool.
Dude, you would be the best filmmaker, film writer, ect.
Keep up the good work.
Stop playing with my emotions.
The Bullseye cameo would've been fun, but Fisk showing up to help out would've been great. Can't rule a city if there's no city to rule!
Then he says "Mr Stark, I don't feel so well
you know being fisk takes over the hand at some point in the comics this is perfect ...
"But you....(pause)...interfeared..." lmao i lost it
Wow, I just finished watching the last Marvel Netflix series I hadn’t watched yesterday, now this is uploaded? Nice.
Dude!!! That was an awesome post-credits-scene idea!! Really wish they'd gone with that instead of the dumb stuff they pulled. Loved your BvS death rule lol.
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Excellent video as usual
Since it is Comic Con week, I will reply with the customary "Woooooooo!"
Your Bullseye theory is great but I think the way they did it in DD3 was perfect
I wish your ideas were in the actually products. I can see this scenario and the post credit scene playing out so well. Well done!
The mcu"FIXER" strikes again,thanks keep making them and ill keep being happy that you made them......
That daredevil impression was on fookin point
Your podcast is a perfect 5/7
I'll take it
Random Commenter five seven you say? I too like sleek handguns
It's a reference to a a facespace conversation where one guy grills his friend repeatedly for giving some movie a 5/7 perfect rating.
Mark Dowd I see. My joke still stands though
Your idea for the post credit scene was brilliant! Honestly speaking most fans would already expect Daredevil to survive the collapsing rubble, so I agree with you wholeheartedly Nando, the screen time at the end was a bit of a waste. Your suggestion for introducing Bullseye however, *chills*
I'm really loving your videos man, I'm considering becoming a Patreon donor, keep up the good work!
Game Trails in the Sky is master of this. EVERY NPC has it own story, mini arc.