Daredevil ('03) VS Daredevil Netflix: One Scene That Shows Why One Worked and the Other Didn't
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Spider-Man: No Way Home has finally returned Matt Murdock to the MCU. Which made us look back at the original ben Affleck Daredevil film. Yes, it sucks--a lot. But why? What was it that made the Charlie Cox. Netflix show the singing star of Marvel TV, that the 2003 film lacked? We picked one similar scene in each movie that shows us this key difference.
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What movies should do a VS of next?
Tobey Spiderman VS Andrew Spiderman VS Tom Spiderman please :D
Constantine show vs Constantine in Legends of tomorrow (arrowverse)
Utter disappoinment
Lost in Space? TV Shows vs Movie?
There is a BIG problem in "scale" of super powers. In comics and the first DD movie, DD super power is comparable to Spiderman's. DD jumps off a 40 story building, doing flips on the way down, and just walks away.
But in Netflix version, Cox's DD is a "badass" no doubt. But he is no where close to Spiderman's power or even Affleck DD. He is not the same scale super power.
So now will the real DD please step forward: Cox's DD, Affleck DD, or comic book DD. The MCU's got a problem, if they move forward with Cox's DD as-is.
Oh and for the record, I love Affleck's Batman. But Cox's DD is more entertaining.
The Punisher!
I don’t think people realize how hard it must be to play a character who can not react to things with their eyes. So much is said just by an actors eyes and Charlie is able to turn that off to play daredevil it is truly amazing.
Facts. When I first started watching it I was like “wait, is this actor actually blind?”
his acting was so good it made me subconciously believe that he's actually blind lol
And on top of that you have to fight as one.
He actually did an audition for a movie and was told to “make more eye contact because you made zero.” He got so used to playing a blind character that he subconsciously forgot to make eye contact
@@thatsmuggamer Suffering from success 😅
I'm just glad they brought back Charlie Cox back to play the part again.
They did
They did
Hope they will know how to make the best of him in the mcu
@@KniFelipe theyre gonna add shitty jokes all over and lose the tone and themes of the series
@@shreyashshrestha6085 exactly but they did his character well in no way home in the little time he was in.
This is why I love Matt. Unlike every other MCU hero than can fight take damage like it didn't matter and can jump of buildings and make a superhero landing, every time Matt fights, he is vulnerable and could probably be killed anytime. He gets beat up, he gets bloodied, he gets thrown around and he get tired and have to catch his breathe. But he doesn't give up.
I agree and both disagree, i finally got to watching the series, but honestly, matt shoulve never been able to get through that halllway in the state he was in at that point, even if it was cool. The series was very good though
@@dominiquebrom1931 Wait till you see the stairway fight in s2 and the prison break fight in s3.
@@dominiquebrom1931 In which episode? That ninja Nobu one?
So he gets best up and suffers no medium to long term damage. That is about as unreasonable as everything you just said
Just like the punisher
The jail scene is my favorite in the series. It’s Matt Murdock and everyone in that prison wants him dead. You can see that fear written all over his face as he’s fighting for his life. It’s dark, it contains realism, and he’s walking around in red light, just looks so fitting. And the sense of relief when he makes it out! That scene always leaves me with chills.
It’s all so perfect.
And he was drugged during all of it.
@@cmorris9494 in real or in show?
The show. The nurse injects something into him before the scene.
My wife and I just got done watching that episode!
@@BaljinderSingh-cu2ob in your mom
Even the way Charlie cox twitched his head as he focused his hearing/smell etc. His mannerisms were excellent. Storytelling, howmthe show develops and characters they brought in made the two seasons probably the best I've seen from any series. Third season lost a little for me compared to the prior but still solid. Movie was okay at best. Agreed with all your points.
Really? I thought season 3 was the best, but to each their own. I loved Ray and especially Dex as characters, I think my favorite moment in the whole show is the fight at the Bulletin
@@ledues3336 dex was what did it for me.. he was great. For me, as I thought about it more, I enjoyed the energy and chemistry for the main trio. It did a great job of mixing the humor, gritty fighting, and the way Kingpin did his thing. Punisher made season 2 my favorite and his interaction with DD was perfect for me. Also in 3 his contempt for his faith and how he treated his friends and such all just lowered it for me. I definitely understand why people liked it and I do have respect for the season.
@@rubensmith1300 yeah man as I said I prefer season 3 for a few reasons but I know it has some flaws and I definitely think the other seasons are awesome too. I loved all of them to be honest, so I think season 2 is very solid. I just think The Hand got a little boring after a while, but the whole plot with Punisher and the general made me love it
@@ledues3336 I agree the Hand was pretty boring. Only part of S2 that i don't like. I definitely believe this is one of the best series I've ever seen
@@ledues3336 the hand and black sky stuff was so dumb thats what lowered season 2 for me
Another thing I noticed, Charlie Cox did a much better job at playing a blind character than Ben did. That made a big difference in the believeability.
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This comment here is the real reason why Daredevil Netflix succeeded while the movie didn't.
Huge
He was amazing, not only as blind man, but as a blind man who is perfectly concious of his surroundings, but has to pretend he isn't.
Pretty sure he wore contacts that blinded himself for non action scenes.
Daredevil (the Netflix series) is just unparalleled in it’s dialogue, acting, cast, character development, etc, etc, etc…
What scares me, is when these actors and the characters they portrayed so brilliantly, will be “Dumbed Down” in the MCU.
It’s already apparent with Vincent Do’ofrio and his portrayal of Wilson Fisk.
His MCU Fisk is a mere hollow shadow of his Netflix Fisk.
Kinda? Problem 1 is that he became the villain all of a sudden in the end kinda?,
2. He did pack a good punch, but it makes 0 sense hes on the frontlines like that. But he himself still played the same fisk, so it all depends on the universe what weight they put on him, quite literally actually
Agree with you professor..i kinda hate Wilson fisk in Hawkeye series...He's not that intimidating and brutal..he could just easily killed kate bishop during their encounter but he did not.
Obviously they weren’t gonna kill Kate Bishop so early into the mcu. It’s clear that they did it on purpose, I mean like it would’ve been better if Wilson just chilled but hey... he ain’t done yet
I hate to say this but I absolutely agree with you. He should never have been introduced in a show like Hawkeye which is very light hearted. I'm not saying that Hawkeye isn't a good show in itself; but to introduce a character like Fisk in it is a really bad idea. The whole point of Fisk as a villain is that he doesn't have to do the dirty work (like participate in hand to hand fights) himself unless absolutely necessary. Where were all his thugs when he went to hunt down Kate Bishop?? Introducing him in such a fashion ironically ruins continuity and undermines all the hard work which we have seen Matt put in in ending Fisk's reign of terror.
I guess he wanted to end it with Eleanor personally, maybe say he let her daughter live if she works for him again or something? Idk he made a lot of money out of her so losing her is really bad for him probably. Idk much about his char, so idk if he would do that
For the fight i think he underestimated kate just. If my first thought is right it makes sense he didnt kill her. He wanted to take her hostage for Eleanor maybe and he wanted to ko kate just and thats why he didnt kill her instantly?
The Punisher and Daredevil are by far my favorite Marvel shows. Both had me really immersed in the plot and the characters. Their rewatch value is pretty decent too.
We can only hope what ever Disney does with them won't be too watered down. So awesome Seeing Charlie Cox return
You should watch Legion too, it's not as well known as the Netflix shows, but I'd say it's just as good (or even better) than Daredevil
Ben Affleck was DD too in 2003. Never forget.
I wouldn't mind a Charlie Cox Daredevil with more high flying "ninja" skills. This IS a guy who beat Wolverine in a fight and travels the city on rooftops with Spider-Man.
Omfg really??
Spiderman has powers and can jump like 30 meters
@@lauracuomo7717 Yep, he beat Dr Octopus, Mysterio, Hercules and others. He should have way more powers.
Surely if he punched wolverine his knuckles would break since wolverines made of metal
@@thehardyfan9908 Look, in the comics, it's more than his senses that were mutated. He's more like CPT America in strength and closer to Spiderman in terms of agility than just a guy who does a little parkour. He didn't win but fought Spiderman and Namour (who are next level) pretty well. He beat CPT America, Electro, Dr Octopus etc. He can block bullets with his buttons and break concrete with his fists 👊
As a student studying filmmaking, I have so much respect for this show. Charlie Cox alone did an amazing job, every time he’s on screen all I can think about is how hard it must be to play a blind character, and somehow he nails it and makes it believable.
With Suit or Without Suit.. Charlie Cox has established himself as the OG Daredevil we all love to see any time, any movie, any show...
Just like Hugh Jackman's Logan
I think the comparison contrast is spot on - but one omission. Another reason the series was so good was the supporting cast. So many great characters and actors.
Agree. I especially loved Deborah Ann Woll. They had great chemistry together, and even more with Her and Jon Bernthal.
I’d say the show manages to keep itself grounded in real world physics as well as giving the characters a level of vulnerability and for me it’s the secret sauce that helps make it so good. The movie was a product of the early 00’s superhero boom, the pick of that era was Blade which managed to get so much right. Daredevil the movie was heavy on FX light on plot.
Well now I gotta rewatch the whole Daredevil show again. It’s cool I’ll space it out to 1 season a day
The Deardevil 2003 movie is also amazing, it was edgy and creative for its time
I want to see Charlie in a completely different TV show or movie. he's clearly big screen worthy. he has too much talent
He started out in a movie called Stardust with a lot of big name actors. Just a warning tho, if you aren't comfortable with seasoned high profile male actors in drag, you might want to skip this one.. 😆
@@82jonathan I appreciate the synopsis, I'm an ally 🌈
He was really good in Boardwalk Empire
@@82jonathan - We always knew you were a whoopsie. :D Love that.
If you want to see Charlie Cox in another movie, might I suggest that you see Stardust? In addition to Charlie Cox, you get Claire Danes, Michelle Pfeiffer, Mark Strong, Henry Cavill,Sienna Miller, Ricky Gervais and (in the role of a 'poufty' pirate captain) Robert DeNiro. This is a huge gathering of star caliber talent throughout the cast, including many other prominent actors in cameos and lesser roles, and it is a wonderful film even without that cast being as star laden as it is. It is a film well worth watching, and Cox is excellent in this film as well.
I loved Charlie Cox as daredevil and want so much more of his DD!
same, his DD was long, I would love it if they extended it.
The older movie tried to follow the comic book (more) same as the Fantastic Four. The movie makes great effort to show his powers.
"Sleeps in a coffin for some reason"
That is actually clever.He has super hearing so he sleeps with his ears in water so the outside noises are dulled out,so he CAN actually get some sleep
Daredevil is one of my favorite movies ever. I've watched that more than any movie on this earth. I love them both.
This is cool, but for me a lot of the problems of the "old" Daredevil movie get fixed in the directors cut. It is not a perfekt version, but it makes it way better. The directors cut had nearly no romantic subplot, but a whole side story inside the court room. It showed a lot more of DD's powers in actions at low price of less "action hero love scenes with unfitting music". There were a few things they got really right in that version. But I am with you, the Netflix version is superior. IMHO the biggest problem is not giving the audience a *consistent* picture of DD, although a few of these problems are remedied in the directors cut, but sadly not all. The really crazy thing is, that some scenes are out of order in the theatrical release, no wonder the movie was so strange....
PS: The weird coffin thing is probably a sensory deprivation tank, used to isolate him from the sounds of his surroundings. I think they mentioned it in the Netflix version as well, but DD can hear too good for his own good. I have no idea if nonfictional blind people have similar problems with relaxing, but it does mesh well with his weakness against loud noises.
Thank you! Adding 30 more minutes actually makes this movie so much better.
Only thing I remember about the director's cut, was the scenes with Coolio. The scenes were written well, but casting him was a distraction.
It did mentioned in Netflix version. He is using silk sheets, probably poor man version of sensory depriviation tank lol. Cotton sheets feels like sandpaper on his skins or his other sensory
I too, enjoyed the Director's Cut of Daredevil, a whole lot actually. But of course, the Netflix Daredevil was the better. I just wish for that first season early on, they would have found a way to explain/showcase how is powers working, much like in the film. So that way, whenever folks who may be unfamiliar with our 'sightless savior', see him in action...they know exactly "how it's happening" or "the process of the fight" (with his Radar Sense).
@C.G the director's cut was originally what they wanted to show in the theater but of course the studio stepped in and asked them to re edit the movie for a love story not only to attract the female audience but to make the movie pg13 instead of R or Unrated. Had they found with the director's cut as the regular version, we'd have a sequel to the movie and it would've been more successful.
One thing new Daredevil doesn't have is that awesome soundtrack
Yeah the original had the music that’s for sure.
the soundtrack is more dark on the series becuase of the plot, not just random good songs from rock bands (:
Both worked for me. I loved Affleck’s version. The emotion he showed when he was in pain taking the aspirin really got to me.
I just saw thus was made 7 months ago. You must be very excited for what's coming next! I know I am. Daredevil has always been my favorite comic. I've read Born Again but it was over 15 years ago, I honestly don't remember a lot of the story.
Charlie Cox really played the blind character so well i thought he was actually blind in real life😅
I remember watching daredevil (the show) for the first time I thought it was the movie so I clicked on it saying to myself I can’t wait to see how bad this is. I watched the first episode and I was is absolute Awe. Definitely one of my favorite shows of all time!
funny I just watched Netflix's Daredevil with my parents over the holidays. They never watched anything Marvel and now my Mom is binge watching Punisher :'D
this is great !
Maybe no one is flying around in the show helped! Both Daredevil and the Punisher are quite grounded. They both only stretched reality in a limited fashion unlike other superhero shows.
@@Uouttooo yeah this is why I suggeted it :D but I never guessed that my Mother would end up like "Oh I need to order a Punisher shirt" she is 62 :'D
A small thing that the four Netflix Defenders shows did that I don't see mentioned often is how they handle the characters' iconic comic costumes.
Daredevil takes the entire first season explaining why he needs the costume. You don't even see him in it until the very last episode of season 1.
Luke Cage and Jessica Jones both play the comic costumes tongue-in-cheek, forgoing them entirely with a cameo appearance of their Silver Age versions for laughs.
Iron Fist also takes a good deal of time bringing the costume in. They don't just give them the costumes in a cheesy montage, they are shown with purpose, making the costume as much as a character identity as the character themselves.
I love the series Daredevil (AND think it is a superior representation of Daredevil) but it is completely unfair to judge a series to a movie. You can take your time in a series and let things develop. You care about Daredevil / Matt because you spend time with him. You can't do that in a movie AND at the time that movie was made Hollywood was still very much in the "the biggest name / prettiest people are almost always the best choice of actors." phase
That last part doesn't excuse the movie
@@storysurgeon5922 Agreed, the movie had several poor choices and lazy writing. Which was endemic in that time.
But as the OP has stated at the start of the video, he is essentially only comparing Daredevil as he is written within the show for the first two episodes against the movie to more fairly compare / contrast the development of each version of the character
I agree, but 2001 Punisher is a classic with good storytelling that makes you sympathize with Frank and makes the audience justify Frank's killing. That movie was made in the same era so Daredevil is just a fail
@@HeiressOfShadows
Think that movie is underrated entirely! Thomas Jane is great punisher. And the movie was good too!!
How does he stack up against the Netflix punisher though IYO?
I remember watching the daredevil movie as a kid, and it was a pretty graphic, violent film for a kid. It's not a great film, but it's not a bad film either. The netflix show is definitely better, but I still respect the film. I actually prefer the film's version of how matt can see. His sense of sound giving him a radar sense is more powerful than matt seeing things like a world on fire, as seen in the show.
I didn't like some of the second season much..There were 2 plots going on at the same time. I preferred what the Punisher and Kingpin were doing in prison over Electra and the Hand.
If it was in season three I think it would be ok but yeah I agree
@@quicklyform5162 One and three were the best. Second was okay.
Yeah second season was rougher, and that's the exact reason why. But to play devil's advocate for the writers... they had certain story line expectations to live up to. That being they needed to introduce The Punisher, and Electra. Those two don't really go together story-wise, as they're unrelated. So they had a difficult job, and given that I say they did an okay job doing what they had to do. They were introducing the Punisher to prop up their Punisher series that was yet to come out, and they had to set up Electra for the Hand as a threat for the Defenders series. It could have been handled better... But I can't say that was their fault. It was a lot to juggle.
Daredevil talking to Punisher on the rooftop is one of my favourite superhero scenes of all time, so of course the Electra stuff got overshadowed.
2nd was a try to test for their version of Avengers kind team up, it didn't paid iff as Defender was a series anyone can forget easily.
@@RuleNo2NoNames Defenders was okay to me. Forgettable? Maybe, but I think that has more to do with it being discontinued. People were excited for more, but then we got news it was cancelled and all hype dropped out of the sky. My review scale for those shows is like this:
Daredevil (s1): Phenominal
Punisher (s1): Great
Daredevil (s2): Good
Jessica Jones (s1+2) Good
Defenders: Good
Luke Cage (S1+2): Okay
Punisher (s2): Not good
Iron Fist: Bad
It's the inconsistency. But A common denominator to me is that as the series got 'closer to the end' they got worse. Iron Fist was clearly the loser. Luke cage overall had some really great moments ruined a little bit by some not great, and ham-fisted ones.
But the whole series overall was just inconsistent in it's quality. But I'd be happy to see ALMOST all of them return. (Looking at you Iron Fist.)
Really hoping that Marvel keeps all the good things of the Netflix shows in the future Daredevil stuff!!!
7:47 DON'T YOU TOUCH ME MY HOOBASTANK & EVANESCENCE!!
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This is the biggest thing missing from the new fight scene of Disney Daredevil in She Hulk
The movie is what got me interested in Daredevil and made me check out the comics, so I have a soft spot for it. (The Director's Cut is better) And while the show is still my favorite Marvel TV series to this day, I do feel the movie does a few things better than the show- namely, how it depicts Matt's disability. Things like folding different dollar bills, and reading brail are accurate representations of blindness that the tv series never really shows. Even the sensory tank he sleeps in is an interesting answer to how he can rest when he has such super hearing. The movie does a better job showcasing his powers, which the tv series downplays because they don't have the money/ it's more grounded. (That's all well and good, but being too grounded can feel like a show is embarrassed of its comic roots. Eventually the Netflix-verse gets to a point where it forgets Jessica Jones can fly.) Anyway, I think it's kind of weird this video makes fun of the movie's depiction of Matt's radar sense and newfound agility, even though they are comic accurate.
I also think the movie has the better costume.
But what makes the TV show work is a better understanding of the character for sure. The movie is very much a product of being in the shadow of the previous year's Spider-Man, and it showed.
I never did make it through the film. The Electra fight was my breaking point. I was agonizingly embarrassed for everyone. I'm sure they all got huge money for that work, but knowing that didn't make the public humiliation any easier to witness.
To be fair Elektra is pretty annoying in the series too.
@@dallastexas5653 Pretty annoying? Her arc is so unwatchable, it destroyed not just season 2, but the entirety of the Defenders as well. I haven't seen such a precipitous dip in story quality since Season 2 of Heroes.
Even worse, you had Frank Castle's magnificently written Punisher for contrast. The two were night and day. I've never seen a more perfect example of writing one character from inside his head, and writing another entirely from the outside. I wanted desperately to relate to Electra the way I did to Frank, to empathize or even understand her, but the writing utterly failed to create an inner life for the character. There was no there there. It was clear that, in approaching Frank, the writers were thinking, "If I were in his shoes, this is how I'd be." With Electra, they were thinking, "This is how crazy women are." There was nothing going on inside.
Maybe that was all by design. Maybe the showrunners wanted us to hate Electra. But why would Matt be attracted to that? From our perspective, she was just another bad guy. If we were expected to believe his attraction, we needed to see why he empathized with her, why he felt kinship. They utterly failed to convey a convincing, sympathetic motivation for who she was. And because we didn't see it, we no longer understood Matt's motivation either. Her poorly written character made Daredevil a worse character too.
Stories are a house of cards. All the elements have to support one another in order for the whole to work. One unbalanced card in the foundation, and the whole thing comes tumbling down.
@@rottensquid Yea, Elektra was what killed season 2 for me as well, but I get her characters point in a sense. Matts whole deal against the Punisher is that he sees goodness in everyone, even her, while she see's darkness in him and wants to use that. Its a toxic and destructive relationship that was doomed to lead to something bad and the writers showed that part. Elektra brought out the worst in Matthew, edging him to kill the man that killed his father while Matt tried to bring out the best in her because of his whole deal of goodness and redemption. She tested his morals and tried pushing him to choose his Daredevil side over his Matt Murdock side.
But then again, your point on the writers need to show all that stuff is... on point lol. They didn't flesh her out well enough and show us what exactly he saw in her that made her so desirable (in the sense that she is what he truly wants in a partner) to him. As mentioned before, she was probably there to make him question if he was Daredevil or Matt Murdock and to create chaos in his already chaotic life.
I wanted to like her and she had potential but she just did a lot of shit that made it hard to see why she was so important, but I also get she was there to test Matt and his moral code. I don't know, I am currently rewatching the series and I am hoping I can grasp her character better. Interesting take on her!
@@galaxypox I don't think you're going to find what you're looking for. I've rewatched the season, trying to understand what they were trying to get at. Like Matt, Electra was deeply wounded by a cruel world. Now, she feels no allegiance to civilization or humanity. For her, it's all a lie. Her truth is kill or be killed. That all makes sense.
But here's the thing. With Matt, Frank Castle, even Wilson Fisk and Ben Poindexter, we clearly see the pain and alienation they carry, that drives them to violence. Each of these characters have layers, not just in their back story, but in every gesture, every decision, every line of dialog. We feel the intensity of Frank's rage in Jon Bernthal's performance, but we also feel the bottomless pit of grief just beneath it. His back-story just brings that into focus. Vince D'Onofrio sells Fisk's "powerful man in control" act until that control is lost. Then he instantly becomes a gigantic toddler having a tantrum. Deep down, all he really wants is to get back at the world that hurt him. Then there's Karen Page, always crying. That's how she expresses rage, because it's mixed up with horror as well as grief. She's being tortured by her own empathy, because no matter what the world puts her through, her heart refuses to harden. It's all in Deborah Wohl's powerful performance as much as the script.
On the other hand, Élodie Yung's performance as Electra has no layers. Regardless of her tragic backstory, she doesn't actually seem motivated by pain, or even rage. Instead, her trauma has left her thoroughly devoid of empathy. As you pointed out, Matt seems to want to help her redeem her soul, while Electra wants Matt abandon his. But as I mentioned in my previous comment, it's not clear why Matt thinks she has a soul left to redeem.
Matt may admit enjoying the violence that comes with being Daredevil, but Daredevil's violence is motivated by pain, which comes from empathy, which ultimately comes from Matt's humanity. Being human is his driving force. Electra seems more like the kind of person who might torture kittens out of boredom. Whether this was a conscious choice or just poor writing, she comes off as nothing but a conscienceless psychopath who enjoys causing pain, not for punishment or revenge, but purely for its own sake. So what exactly does Matt see in her?
And what on earth motivated his decision to abandon his identity and run away with her? Did anyone think that through? Was he planning to just stop caring about Hell's Kitchen? About crime? About his fellow man? Did he actually think he could keep her from doing anything that violated his moral compass? Or did he intend to abandon his morality altogether? Literally none of this is addressed. It was just a dramatic declaration at the season's climax that actually meant nothing and led nowhere. And when she died, what exactly did he lose? What, ultimately, was the point of it all? I still don't know.
Stories depend on a character's choices, not the unexpected stuff that happens to them. And Matt didn't actually get to make any choices in the end. The decision that whole Electra arc hinged on was not even a real choice. Matt was would never be able to meaningfully redeem Electra, nor would he have been able to abandon his humanity for her. It wasn't even a plot. It was just empty words, biding time between fight scenes with a faceless, meaningless enemy, rendering all those fights, and eventually the whole season, ultimately dull and meaningless.
Anyway, that's what I saw. If you saw something more, I'd be curious to hear it.
@@rottensquid Yea i am on like episode 8 of season 2 and I still do not like her or found anything else during my rewatch LMAO. I am still seeing her as a one dimensional character who was put in there to make Matt question himself and lacked character. I was really hoping to like her this time around but.... nah lol
Early superhero movies doesn't really care about being realistic or relatability. They only showcase how ideal and awesome this powerful guy is.
thank you. i was going to go track down this movie and watch it but because of this video, i wont have to. charlie cox is matt murdock/daredevil
There was another film, made for TV in the late 80s - Trial of the Incredible Hulk, that also tried to introduce Matt Murdock/Daredevil to the world. I enjoyed Rex Smith in the role, Charlie Cox rocked it but Rex Smith was better than Ben Affleck
Ben Affleck's buddy, Matt Damon, should've played DD. Ben was just too tall (6' 4") for the role.
Charlie cox got an award for his portrayal of a blind person by the Helen keller association for the blind. Tells you how good a job he did.
The loud noise thing is in the netflix show, he visibly flinches when guns are fired. He gets more used to guns through the show, but his hearing is udes as a weakness a few times iirc. (please note that i finished the show the year after it released its final season)
Such incredible insights into these two daredevils, It's almost like there's 13 years of superhero movies in between and daredevil 2003 was one of the very first attempts besides spiderman. shocking that the new show is better. How could we live without this level of journalism....
That invincible bit was just too good😀
The reason why Charlie Cox works as Daredevil is because he had 3 seasons worth character development while Ben Affleck only has 1 movie
But comparision is fair by use only first two episode.
The "coffin" that Matt sleeps in is a deprivation chamber. Which makes sense, since all of his senses are heightened he has to sleep in this; otherwise he would never get any rest as the noise of the city would keep him up all night. This was actually one bright spot in the movie.
Yeah, but the series is showing Matt is able to now focus what he chooses to not notice and what he does. It all boils down to Stick training him. In the comics, particularly the Bendis run, he doesn't sleep in a sensory deprivation chamber.
Had no idea Favreau played Foggy lol. Makes Cox's scene in spider-man pretty funny.
So I think the Coffin in the 2003 one was supposed to be a sensory deprivation tank, I think they were playing into the fact that Daredevil's hearing is so sensitive and he can't turn it off that it makes certain things more difficult, which is echoed in the loud train hurts him, etc.
People just didn’t know what bad was back then. I remember liking the movie as a kid because any super hero type movie back then was awesome …..to a kid
Just different times man. superhero movies weren’t taken as serious back then.
Once you said one scene out of the entire series will show why the series got it right over the movie, I knew exactly what scene you were talking about. It sucks when we get a really bad ass marvel series it is taken from us. Why can’t Disney see how much Charlie Cox and this Daredevil is loved? If they did they should suck it up and give it back.
The main reason the 2005 film is so different from the show is that it's actually closer to the comics of that era then the current version.
Daredevil of the early 2000s was essentially updated as a semi Spider-Man clone, always swinging across buildings to get to crimes faster and after past runs of other writers shown him as also a partial batman clone.
Taking his devil motif to the logical extreme and creating the image that he is a Literal devil coming to collect the souls of the damned. Thus the walking through fire, etc.
The show while uses various elements of the comics and earlier media appearances really made their own original version that wasn't seemingly superhuman, physically and emotionally vulnerable, and more moral and grounded.
The main problem of the film wasn't that it was poorly adapted it was moreso that it was adapted from a era of comics that was more over the top.
Everything about the show is amazing. I'm extremely happy everything worked out and he was in the movie
I remember watching episode two and dying of laughter when daredevil vibe checked the dude with a microwave.
I've known nothing about Daredevil up until the series... Which I started really late, only on season 2 atm. I've always thought Daredevil had super strengths and abilities similar to that of Spider-Man. But I was wrong.
I think I disagree that daredevil’s senses can’t also be a weakness at times, like if something is just too loud for him and he’s not prepared himself for it. I think it could be a good weakness if used right in a story. And I don’t think we should take away from the fact that while he picks up on a lot of things other people don’t on account of his super senses, he also occasionally misses some things on account of not being able to see. His blindness *is* a disability and we shouldn’t pretend it isn’t, just because he has other superhuman abilities. In some ways they make up for and are better than sight, but no he still can’t actually see and there are things he misses because of that (I remember a comic where captain America mentions that a villain was wearing the American flag and daredevil says ‘I didn’t notice’. Because there is no way he could have)
No one will ever beat Charlie Cox as the daredevil. He did the absolute best. And he is coming back
I have a soft spot for daredevil 2004😭back then they really went by comic book logic not realism. Now in our time we add realism and ground our stories but either or I love the video
Charlie Cox knows who Matt Murdoch is he plays the part exquisitely.
The movie made me a fan of Daredevil when I was a kid so much to the point I actually wanted to become blind. As I learned more about Daredevil I gotta say that Charlie did an amazing job but I still like Bens Daredevil for nostalgic reasons.
I just also notice that Happy (iron man assistant) is the one who played foggy in 2003 version
That isn't a coffin. That's a sensory deprivation chamber. But that one that looks like it came out of Tim Burton's Batman.
The white powder he's pouring into it is salt; it makes you float better.
I can see the appeal for someone who's senses are so dialed up. But you wouldn't want to sleep in it. Quite aside from the risk of drowning the salt would dry your skin out and make it itch.
The end of the final fight scene with Matt and Kingpin in the show is so trippy. Matt’s eyes don’t move or react to anything at all. Charlie’s performance is uncanny.
In the Daredevil movie, Matt sleeps in a coffin filled with water to cut off noise. It is copied from the Frank Miller comics. I appreciate the explanation why you think the movie was bad. I could not see it.
I remember I LOVED the MOVIE daredevil when I was a kid.
Than I watched the TV show on Netflix. I completely agree, the TV show is SOOOO much better!! I ADORE Matt & his internal struggle for good. His desperate attempt not to cross a line he fear he might one day. I feel SO invested in what is gonna happen to him, SO worried for him.
Crazy how all of a sudden daredevil is so loved like where were all these fans before December lol people just don’t have a mind of there own
(From the movie and comic) Matt sleeps in a sensory deprivation tank because he simply can't get to sleep with his heightened sense otherwise.
While I do agree with you that the Netflix show is head and shoulders above the movie, I don’t think the movie was that bad. You have to remember that at the time comic book movies were not “allowed“ to be rated R, with the exception of Blade. And it wasn’t until western movies adopted the hyper violent fight scenes of The Raid and Old Boy that things changed. Like you pointed out, the movie only has a very short time to establish a backstory and a mood for the movie compared to ours an hours for TV show. Just my opinion.
DD 2003 movie was GOOD
I hope the MCU reviving Daredevil for another show doesn't ruin it by putting the happy-go lucky comfortable vibe it oozes.
Its a sensory deprivation chamber. that part actually made some sense. with his hearing sleeping in the "coffin" would of been easiest way to get some sleep.
That hallway scene in the show is better than the entire 03 movie that was shot better than some movie action scenes
Without a doubt the best comic book series!! Punisher is a close second..but everything from story telling, acting, fighting scenes!! A+
That wasn't a coffin Affleck's DD was sleeping in. It's a sensory deprivation chamber, and kind of makes sense. If he has all of his other senses amplified, then cutting off the world would allow him to be able to get a nearly reasonable amount of sleep.
I admittedly have a soft spot for the 2003 film. Kinda like reading a journal from high school; realizing you were a cringeworthy person but were also having some good times.
Disney interfering with the Netflix masterpiece is unforgivable.
8:32 I know this comment will be buried and that the tone of this section of the video is very tongue-in-cheek, but that "coffin" is a sensory depravation tank and is probably the only way that a character like Matt would be able to shut out the rest of the world and have some peace (if only for a moment); I argue that it shows the lengths he needs to go through just to what most of us take for granted and how much his condition isolates him. Also the prominent music in the movie was more a product of the time that the movie was made (and was far from the only movie that did so) and should be viewed with that in mind (no defense for the sudden ninja powers, though).
11:57 pretty sure in the comics rain is actually his greatest weakness because it’s all he can feel and it’s constant
What was wrong with Elektras practice scene other than she suspected the wrong man?
The Daredevil film court seen is confusing, because of it's a criminal trial, why is a private attorney prosecuting?
Charlie Cox is definitely the man for the DD of our time but give Ben the credit he deserves for doing it back then on the Cinematic screen.
I'm glad we didn't lose daredevil. At least we be able to watch again on Disney+.
Crosing your fingers for a revival?? Fast forward to Comicon reveal... Got your wish :)
Matt sleeping the chamber is amazing that is one of the best thing from the movie
It's still weird when I see Charlie Cox not being blind.
Omg I didn't understand that Monster House joke as a kid
Daredevil got a enhanced sense of balance along with the enhanced other senses, it's called Proprioception. The "Coffin" is a sensory depravation container. You try getting sleep when you can hear the entire city like it was in your room.
Also, the music in the movie was on point, great.
He sleeps in a deprivention tank... to block all the sound, lights, feelings of the city so he can sleep, because he has heightened senses...
That hallway fight scene might be my favorite fight scene EVER put to film.
13 year old me had fond memories of this in theaters with my step dad.. 32 year old me is cringing 😂 That hallway scene in the Netflix show is one of the most amazing scenes of live action to me period.
you accidentally swapped the scenes for when matt sees his dad dead, ben urich and lanton
1:39 you swapped the closeup shots of the kids crying lol
I like how the Daredevil show contrasted with the Jessica Jones show where Matt Murdoch first fails to take down Wilson Fisk physically as Daredevil and then decides to use the law as lawyer Matt Murdoch to take down Fisk’s criminal network legally. This is the exact opposite approach that Jessica Jones utilizes in the first season of her show where she fails to take down the Purple Man legally and then resorts to killing him physically at the end.
0:13. Turn on TH-cam subtitles. You're welcome
Yep! Started my re-watch of Daredevil after watching SMNWH and I have been itching to re-watch the old movie! I remember it fondly but haven't seen it in maybe 15 years and I anticipate my older self may have some different opinions especially after a quick refresher of this video. LOL I hope so badly for the show to get another season or a movie b/c I absolutely loved DD Season 3 especially and was shocked at the time when it was suddenly over.
nailed it! I miss the TV series. I have been trolling streaming services to see if anybody is showing it. Also, a LOT of the music in the TV series is AWESOME! Some really great songs!
I think the movie portrayed Matt's powers (the fact that he does indeed have super powers) and the show got his characterization. Movie has the better suit(I said it). The Netflix series never wanted to commit to the idea that the chemicals gave him superhuman senses. Sticks presence also makes it seem as if any blind person can do what he does with enough training when the point of daredevil is that his senses and coordination are near or at Spider-Man levels. He can doge gunfire. While the dove scene was a bit extravagant I get the feeling they were poorly showing that he was able to dive and and land in the perfect spots to avoid harm to himself. It would have me more sense for him to use his grapple to slow his fall in that scene than just flat out land. This is what makes me curious about his portrayal in she hulk. I wonder if they will have his abilities be closer to the comics and gives a visual of his radar sense opposed the Netflix series ground it in reality as much as possible.
14:24 Matt sleeps in a coffin to drown out his super hearing so he can sleep
Imagine jumping from a 20 feet tall building and survive
*Clears throat
Daredevil (movie)
One of daredevils actual weaknesses like in the comics is over stimulation to his senses (specifically his hearing), idk if a train could slow him down but something maybe louder or if he was closer to the train could definitely do it
never saw the appeal of the character. he actually appeared in live action during the hulk series, they showed his ability to see in green, was kinda interesting. felt like the black suit in the new series was a throw back to his look for back then.