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- Sonic Youth cofounder Kim Gordon and Sleater-Kinney's Carrie Brownstein sat down for a sprawling and hilarious conversation to promote Kim's new memoir Girl In A Band. Watch the two alt-rock veterans battle awkward silences and giggles to discuss Gordon's time in Sonic Youth, bass guitar inspiration and the weird idea of being labeled a "girl in a band."
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Some people are thinking Kim is superficial and uninsteresting judging by this interview, but she's actually just a very low key and reserved person who clearly wasn't very comfortable in this situation.
I highly recommend reading "girl in a band" because the book offers a great perspective on how amazing her persona and history is.
Luiz- she is totally kinestetic. It’s how she relates to other people, how she processes outside stimulation, and the world that surrounds her. She is deeply physical and feels things like her art and her connection to the world. She comes across as stand-offish and uninterested but what’s really going on is she is having a hard time connecting to people. It’s not on purpose, it’s how she is wired. Someone who is also kinestetic could comprehend, understand, communicate, and connect with her quite easily
Anything would be better than this 'interview'
@@kingofepicvlogs4666 All that maybe true, but she comes off as a bit shallow and elitist.
WE don't need a lecture Kimmy. You had a great run, go out with class, and don't become an insufferable douche like the rest of the celebrity SJW crowd.
@@Chasstful YOU are an insufferable douche, though.
You are the problem.
This was so wonderfully awkward! I love it!
+Myke C-Town lmao I see this and it's the exact conveyance of what I think about it and then I realize your name and that I watched some of your good shit about vinyls and albums and shit 5 hours earlier.
+Michael Wu Haha! Well, thanks, man!
+Marty Fowler No. It's a clear way of saying exactly what I said...
Myke so when u gonna review this convo
I wonder why millenials and specially centenials find everything awkward...
Kim Gordon is a visual artist, a vocalist, bassist, mother, writer, sorceress, erotic film producer and starlet of so many lesser gifted production visionary art people, a morning star, a rock star, a mammalian trailblazer, a true friend to friends, model, spokes model, and she'll bury us all!!👻
no she's not
I met Kim in 91 outside Auburn Mills. I was the only one who noticed her. I could tell she knew I knew who she was, but I said nothing. I didn't want to bug her by saying hello and regardless I was just staring to peak on magic mushrooms. I was playing pinball a few hours later and she came by and I just said a few things and she laughed and was really cool. Back then it was so different. No cell phones fuck all. I miss it. 91-94 in college ruled. Kim is on such a higher level than Carrie here when it comes to explaining the performance art aspect of music.
You might've just seen someone who looked like Kim Gordon and been high on mushrooms lol
Cool story. I agree about the wavelength thing here: Carrie is obviously very smart and has her signature witty awkwardness, and came at Kim with all of that intellect. And Kim was just like: "Practice? In art-making, you can call your art "practice," but...you're in your studio and you're developing ideas and you're following a thread of what you're interested in." Boom. NOT the typical or conventional way of approaching a creative medium (hello: it's Kim Gordon of Sonic Youth...), so I wish there was a bit of space to appreciate that statement and her insight.
Two of my favorite figures in rock together. There is so much talent on that stage. It would be so cool to see them do an album together.
@nasachusetts nasachusetts what the hell are you talking about?
THANK YOU for putting this one all online.
interesting to hear Kim's thoughts on Soundcloud. showing her age there a bit. obviously its lo-fi and they are "dabblers", but it IS music in 2015, you wont get physical media or big production playing guitars as a new band these days. was hoping she'd be a little more progressive and in touch with the "why's" of Soundcloud.
Coldacre Well said, I agree. In my comment below (or above), I think that 3 decades of being signed to a label may have warped her perspective a little.
Nah, Sonic youth have always been advocates of the DIY aesthetic, in art and music . If you read between the lines, I think the idea of uploading songs rather than actually playing live and slinging physical media could be seen as a cop out. Especially using someone else's fame to push your music. That being said, don't a large percentage of bands have some sort of SoundCloud presence?
I was at the Sonic Youth Bumbershoot show where they did an entire set of noise. I was the person dancing and I danced my azz off! It was rad!
that was a gooder! right after all their gear got ripped off
Thurston: "Uhhh... I don't know why you're all watching us, Roy Harper's playing on that little stage back there?!?!...."
Looking forward to Carrie's book.
It's good to see Kim clearly enjoying herself so much for a change.
I saw Kim's band Body/Head a few years ago. I was right in front of her at the stage, and she was wearing the same shoes she has on here. Can't forget those shoes. At the end of the set she came into the audience and was standing right next to me singing with the mic cord wrapped around her whole body.
I thought the questions Carrie posed were kinda hard to answer and anyone would've had a hard time wanting to think of answers to them. Listen to this book on Audible. I loved it! I have listened to it several times and her voice is so soothing to me. Thanks Kim, I hope you'll write another one!
The most interesting parts in "Girl In A Band" are the descriptions of her early life in LA. The relationship with her brother is beautifully written, almost enchanting. Many other parts of the book look like a therapy journal, badly edited (there are many repetitions, the most evident one is right on the last page). Kim Gordon is, anyway, an icon. Maybe an unaware one.
I am in love with Kim Gordon.
God, that was a painful hour. I felt so sorry for Carrie.
like talking to scott weilland ....
"Bad stucco in la" sounds like a band name
She's so real it hurts and scares people
The level of awkward was just delightful.
I love when the band plays a song for 40 minutes
Just finished reading both of their books for my thesis, finding this video was such a treat!
"... it's a technique of not learning to play your instrument that well, ever. That is something you have to maintain. It's a technique."
Very interesting thoughts by both ladies on the concept of "musicianship" and "being the girl in the band".
Ordered Kim’s book a few hours ago. Looking forward.
Kim Gordon is rad. I don't know why there is so much hate about her interview. She has put out so much art and music through the years. What have any of you done for culture? She actually made a difference in the world and made people feel good. Again, what have any of you done? Carrie Brownstein is indeed an underrated guitarist. Both of those bands kick ass live. Instead of criticizing artists, maybe do something yourself first. She can say whatever the fuck she wants. She's earned it.
most of the people in to comments tend to think she's a feminist and just get triggered at the fact she keeps expressing her own opinions about women in music and bands overall. I dont care, she's still badass at singing and I'm happy she's got a second career in art.
Love Carrie's sense of humor.
I highly enjoyed Kim Gordon's book (and Carrie Brownstein's too). Both these women are remarkable and multi-talented. Gordon may be shy and private, I don't know, but this was her book tour and the interview would have been better if she was more willing to speak.
@1:03:27 😂😂😂😂😂gets hit with mic and no one notices “Ahhhh She took out my teeth”
did someone say "awkward".....they really should be somewhere suburban playing canasta and kvetching about pricey restaurants.
I love how at the end it looks like Carrie just ran away from the session, leaving kim completely confused.
I was a Sonic Youth fan but after watching this interview I have no interest in reading Kim Gordon's book. She didn't seem to enjoy being interviewed, and every answer she gave was strained until the last 20 minutes of the Q&A. Carrie Brownstein is awesome. Psyched to read her book.
33 minutes in Kim asks Carrie what is a Soundcloud artist?
Carrie says a band w/out a record label. Hear Kim go "yeah, Uh, yeah."
Carrie is so hysterical.
great stuff
OMG this is BRILL!!
A few min of nervousness and then the real discussion that women do.
I loved being on-stage with these musicians back in the day/90"s because they are so f*ckN cool. Carrie and Kim are trying to explain how musicianship is secondary in terms of stage presence for a Rock Band, regardless of gender or politics or whatever. But I was there as a fan and a anthropological participant and a teenage boy and I just thought they were both bands were f*ckN GREAT ROCK N ROLL.
I wish I got to see the WHO. But I am so happy I got to see Sleater K and Sonic Youth when they were rocking out with their cocks out.
have nothing but huge respect for these iconic,awesome,incredibly boring women.
I think they are having fun. They seem like they're goofing off to ease social awkwardness. Nice interview.
Kim made that super difficult for Carrie...Jesus. The awkward giggles are not what I would have expected from either of these strong women. Why even write a book and/or schedule a promo conversation (with an audience) if it's this difficult or uncomfortable for Kim to discuss it??
+Erika Wagner Why are they "strong" women? Kim does what she must to make a living. Somehow, that's considered some super achievement. I love her and Sonic Youth, but I would not call he "strong". I don't mean to disparage her accomplishments. Golda Meir - strong. Mother Theresa - strong. Hillary Clinton - strong. Kim Gordon - laughing hysterically here at who knows what, and giving answers often inaudibly, that are often not even complete sentences.
+jas22 her laughing and not always been eloquent doesn't make her weak. You don't have to be perfect all the time to be strong.
+Krishtie Mofazzal Didn't say she was "weak". But not "strong", though. She's not a dumb bimbo, though, absolutely not, in case you further take things out of context.
+jas22 Hillary Clinton-Power obsessed political whore.
+spacedoginnebraska *chuckle* there there...you're just bored because youre recharging the cell phone.
soundcloud is just any other way you can release your music , you can do it phisically thru cds , cassette , and also online and get to know like minded people and just a different way to explore and discover contemporary music
Good interview, interesting chemistry
Carrie is a goddamn national treasure, not least because she always looks so great in stockings.
Awkward but I got through the whole interview by curiosity and it was worth it. Entertained me
She is confusing Beastie Boys/Slayer on "No Sleep til Brooklyn" and Run DMC/Aerosmith "Walk This Way" which both came out in 1986
Kim should’ve said- I didn’t write a word of this book, it was ghost written.
I heard she worked in a toy store with Sal Principato from Liquid Liquid back in the day. is that in the book?
I don't think Riot Grrl had that much to do with it...it was the bands, since the concept moved so far away from what Riot Grrl originally was. If by Riot Grrl you mean girl bands who know stage lighting, sound, and recording from another grrl band, then that should be inspiring.Or you could be referring to the West Oly neighborhood bands in the nineties--go Sleater-Kinney! Kathleen and I knew about that band because we lived off Sleater-Kinney highway for a year. You couldn't be more local if you named yourselves Smithfield Cafe.
Ah, the Smithfield. No one ever seems to remember it, or the Tropicana. We had so much fun at the time that we didn't even think of documenting those places. Cheers from a native.
I'm nodding off at the 5 minute mark. Help!
hey so... what was that??
really interesting interview.
Who would REALLY want to rush closer to ... this? :-D
ooooh!!! i love you both, amazingly funny
Love Kim Gordon...hate this interview! Wanted to tell Kim that more polish is expected of our icons...But then I listened to Tunic again...and realized Kim should always be herself!
Am I the only one that thinks this is an extremely awkward interview I just thought there be a hell of a lot more chemistry here for some reason
she’s so awkward in a wise way I love it
Kim's wearing the same shoes as she wore at the 2014 R&R HoF Induction ceremony. No biggie, just seeing if anyone else noticed.
She's punk what does she care
First time I've ever seen Kim Gordon laugh. Looks good on her.
in no way can Richard Hell and Sid Vicious be compared, imo. Richard could and did write catchy, memorable, melodic basslines and great lasting songs. Sid did not. He was a stand in for Glen Matlock, who we could compare to Hell as a writer and player. the only realm in which Hell and Sid can compare is in the spikiness of hair, dress and heroin intake, of which Hell introduced first, and in that case Sid still cannot hold a candle to Hell.
as far as SoundCloud goes it's just a place for artist to put their work without the giant commercial machine being involved. Think of it as from farm to table.
This is fucking hilarious.
Carrie Brownstein comes off as the 'am I hip enough to impress Kim Gordon?' interviewer. She looks pretentious and out of touch. I was particularly annoyed by her labeling of people as 'soundcloud artists.' I suppose she's forgotten the early DIY days of Sleater Kinney and the struggles of artists who don't have label support. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan, but this took her down a couple of pegs for me
i think this shit's hilarious
Who’s more popular, Carrie or Kim?!?
OHHH MY GoooddD!
Kim tried to talk about trap music and the interviewer went on a tirade to avoid saying shes racist
Great!
Sonic
I love both Kim and Carrie, but Kim's comment that Soundcloud artists sounds the same is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Maybe having been signed to a record label for the past 3 decades has skewed her perspective?, but Soundcloud (and Bandcamp) give un-signed artists an opportunity to get their music out into the world. Every kind of music I can imagine is represented on Soundcloud! Perhaps it's an ignorant comment (I hope so). Love you Kim!
Corporal Cal i agree with you, and would like to add that a lot of soundcloud artists tend to release music to keep listeners interested so it tends to be rushed, it'd be easy to generalize it being an on and off user of the internet
+Stephen Randall That's because Kim and Sonic Youth came from the era of Underground music everything done analog not digital, music was passed around from word of mouth or small bits in magazines etc etc..
Older bands could have benefit a lot with soundcoud, internet their music would of reached more fans. Plus, these bands I listened too, can have that second comeback. You know the term Reunion.
Today's bands do have an edge over the older bands thanks to the internet, but some do rediscover these older bands thanks to their older siblings & **cough** parents.
Buffalo Tom was and is a great band.
if you insist
Um.."Cannonball" was released in 1993, not 1990. Get it right, girl!
Kim is such an amazing woman, Thurston must be crazy to have cheated on her, shes a stunner, I can't believe she's 71!
Kim gordon is such a doll
so many triggered people talking about she's a feminist
20:30 Okay, so... I know that I may be seriously criticized. If this video was made at the time it was published, this would make Kim over 60 years old. She is super attractive!
They should of had Debbie Harry up on here also. Would have been very valid in the subject of girl in a band.
I really wanted to be interested in this interview but, uhm, well...
Looool that High Five!!! aaawwkward haha
Eu tenho gostei muito bom 🇧🇷👍🎸🎶 a garota da banda 💟
AC not experimental enough? Cmon mang!
What's great is how hot chicks from rich families can make a career of being in bands, and other self-expression! Way to go, girls!
are they high or what?
GoDrex It looks like a competition between who's more awkward, really.
awkwardness, giggling - I'm surprised they aren't munching on snacks
In all seriousness, I think the awkwardness is just that this is two friends who decided they would accept the offer for one to interview the other and it turned out to be an even stranger experience to interact with one another in the rigid format of "interview" than they thought it would be.
Kim is such a Goddess ,i just Love her
te amo Kim
A good interviewer would have made a big difference here..
Carrie did the best she could.
(Backstage)
Kim: What should we be like?
Carrie: Easy. Make it like a Portlandia sketch. We'll just bitch about nothing.
Stopped watching around 40 minutes in... thought it would be interesting to watch and listen but I actually found it boring and sort of disappointing.
...kinda surprised she shit-talked animal collective.
Carrie is hilarious
They are stoned,correct?
Maybe it's me.
Let's play a game called count the, 'um' . Um....
SONIC awkwardness...
no interviews music nobody cares about completely sums up soundcloud or any internet based music distributor
I feel sorry for Carrie. This was a tough one.
Kim smoked marijuana)))
Yah? Yah.....yah? yah
19:36 kek
Carrie Brownstain
Love both these women. Talkative hipster v. Don't give a fuck artist.
Kims lack of knowledge on some of the stuff she talks about is epic.
Less interested in reading the book now.
+bigbigsound I can't tell you how turned off I am after hearing this interview. I get it - she's "low key", but come the fuck on. Is there ANYTHING she is sure or confident about, after 3 decades or more as an artist. I am close to the end of the interview, and I've enjoyed it, but she seems like she doesn't care about anything, really - just without passion. I don't know.
The book was great forget how Kim came off
I F L Y KIM
stupid intro to THE Sonic Lady 👏🏿
Kim Gordon's book tour interviews only confirm what I've been suspecting about her for years: she's neither smart nor interesting. Sorry to be a hater but I'm just calling it as I see it. Her reputation has always amounted to being a symbol of good taste more than anything else, and her inept interviews only reveals the lack of substance and ideas in her work, her connections to art world elites notwithstanding.
ERIC VITALE fuck you man you have no idea what you're saying….wait.. never mind you're totally right
Asim Hussain It's entirely possible to be a brilliant musician and an airhead, or a rock goddess pioneer and an a-hole, at the same time.
ERIC VITALE Agreed. I think Kim is way overrated, Thurston Moore and Lee Renaldo were who made Sonic Youth great. Sorry Kim fans.
ERIC VITALE I highly recommend her book if you really want to get a deep insight into her personality and career. I'm sure you'll change your suspections once you've done it.
lhrttz I've read it and I agree with you. She has considerable insight into herself and why she is the way she is, and when you get done the book you come away a pretty good idea/sense/ of and feeling for another human being. imhop. That might have happened by accident, but probably not, because it is hard to accomplish.
Uh oh...musicians talking! Usually gets weird...... in a good way.
***** musicians who are too cool to call themselves 'musicians' ;-)
+waterdragon2012 After watching this...it didnt get weird,or even interesting. Maybe they shoulda talked to Thurston and Lee....and yeah,beyond pretentious.
@@TheAshleywiggins .
I refuse to work in media. Because ooof 2016 i lost all interest in living in America