I have owned a 2014 and have a 2016 f150 with 3.5 ecoboost. I definitely agree with oil separator for the first mod but second would FOR SURE have to be a tuner and an email tune (I went with livewire TS and unleashed for the tune). Third would be y-pipe, they actually have an amazing exhaust sound and lets a lot of heat out plus lots of flow (I went with afe off road lol). I find that none of the cat-backs sound decent plus there really isn't much of an improved flow compared to modifying further upstream. From what i have read getting a dry drop in performance filter and leaving the rest stock is just as good (as far as hp gains ) as the cold air kits.
I absolutely love this "project" truck! I was a huge fan of the F-150 until I started looking into the EcoBoost engine and realized how much of a difference there is and how much better it ends up being.
Of course it can off road, it isn't a rock crawler or a super mud bogger, but its got nice tires and a leveling kit on it, and its very comfortable to daily drive.
Was happy to run into this video because I’ve been wondering about the oil separator everyone I ask on the street did not have a clue what I was talking about thanks for this video👍🏾
Have had my new 2017 3.5 with 10 speed transmission and it is awesome. Have around 4k Miles on her and I average 20-21 mpg mix City and highway. Can't wait to do a long road trip and see what she can do. Absolutely love this truck. No reason for a V8 except for noise. Lmao
I took mine in the hills of Pennsylvania from Michigan, and loved every minute of it. 22.6mpg for the 1400 mile trip. Probably could have done better if I took it a little easier.
Got a 2018 f150 5.0l 10 speed and a 2018 2.7l 10 speed for work, v8 win in overall performance and people are surprised when I tell them the v8 gets 18.6 average and I only get 19.8 to 20.1 in the 2.7 , fuel economy varies more in the v6. But at the end of the day the 5.0l puts car lengths on it and just screams America. 3.5l vs 5.0l 2 out of 3 was too close to call a winner
Has anyone ever had long term proof that a catch can works over time, I haven't found a video that shows it yet, everyone claims they work but I have yet to see someone show valves at high mileage with a can. I'm probably gonna put one on my low mileage '14 as a preventative anyway...
@@zr2trackerjoe It's all bullshit. Ecoboost engines in the F150's have been out for 10 years. Other than a few issues, there are trucks well over 200k miles that are still running on stock turbos.
@@mattc1248 Ford has sold more then 1,000.000 F150 EcoBoosts, it's just a gimmick. Like saying that you get better fuel mileage AND more power with a K&N air filter! People fall for this crap.
If any of these aftermarket performance car parts sellers ever stopped shilling Cold air intakes and stuck to practical stuff that actually adds performance they would easily become the go to spot for people who want to actually maker their car/truck faster. I thought offering an oil separator first was a good touch, as that will actually help preserve your engine, the cat back & intake tho aren't really going to give a lot of HP/TQ even when modded, catback maybe gives an extra 5hp. Cold air intake is almost snake oil sure it gives a louder sound, but its been proven over and over on many different cars that stock intakes are light years better then what was on early 90s-80s and prior cars, ford, chevy etc spend huge amounts of time and money into developing efficient intake systems on modern cars and are optimized to draw in the most amount of cold air right off of the front of the hood, put those things on a dyno and you will see no gain with an intake, tune for tune mod for mod.
one thing we need is proof that exhaust and a cold air intake to replace the factory cold air intake actually does anything for performance and for the cost associated with these upgrades it better be more than 4hp. I think we all know without a tune none of these parts give you any real power. Please prove me wrong with some dyno charts. btw i have owned more than one ecoboost and love the motor but any aftermarket exhaust just sounds like trash.
Sean Leon exactly, I went into his website and I couldn't find anything about the HP gained, and that is the main reason why I could spend a thousand dollars on just a intercooler. I have a magnaflow double tip catback exhaust, cool air intake and a superchip on my 3.5, the sound is not perfect but it is much better than before, now I like it and I also like the extra power
A quality exhaust is really going to help with any turbocharged vehicle, especially when properly tuned for it, way than it would for naturally aspirated vehicle. A larger and better flowing exhaust will reduce back pressure to help the turbos spool quicker and easier for more power, you pretty much want as little back pressure in a turbocharger exhaust system. You wont get near the same performance gain from a cold air intake as you would with an exhaust, but when you get the whole system free flowing and breathing good and then you tune for it, the truck will run fantastic.
Personally i would enjoy a nice big screen showing each turbo boost pressure with calculated turbine rpm along with other data such as trans temp oil pressure and temp etc..... butbyea why replacevthe factor stainless exhaustband engineered air filter system for aftermarket trash? If i was a dealer i would instantly void warranty on anything with aftermarket air filters
Ok just listened to multiple videos and no offense but the atak sounds more like a tractor on video than in real life. Granted I’m sixty years old so........
I was all set up to thumbs down this video because I saw the afe CAI when you said the first modification should be..... a catch can. Great recommendation, thumbs up!
nice. I have a 2015 Platinum F150 with 3.5 EB. I don't plan on changing the exhaust system because they sound crappy. but I plan to go with CAI,Catch Can,and a Tune. if I can make over 425+hp and over 460LB ft torque,then I'm good
Interesting, the first mods for a Gen 1 Raptor was all about off roading, lightning, winch, bigger shocks, air compressor. First mods for a Gen 2 Raptor is all about street performance, CAI, Exhaust, Tunes, ICs.
The catch can pulls condensation from your engine, not oil. (There is a taint of oil) but it is not the oil that is rough on the injectors, the h2o is.
The newer Ecoboost have direct injection AND port injection. The port injection cures the build up problem. The problem is also more likely in colder climates. Here in the Arizona desert I don't think it is going to be much of a problem.
that's what i thought. i thought all ecoboost engines in aluminum F-150s (pictured) had moved to direct AND port injection, specifically b/c of the issue discussed. i'm not sure when they switched over so correct if i'm wrong. all i know is that my '17 Raptor has both port and direct injection
Skip the intake and the catch can and go with a water/meth injection kit, upgraded coils, and plugs. The stock intake pulls in much colder air from the fender well outside the hot engine bay and more than enough for any safe level of boost. You’ll be about 60hp ahead of this guy for the same money.
Super easy, it's all bolt on. If you buy it from a place like MPT. They will send you revised tunes based on the mods you buy from them so you can rest easy knowing that it is performing correctly.
Yes and no. The port injector does help clean the intake valves but the catch can will help with catching all those blow by vapors keeping them out of the intake.
i have just under 130,000 miles on my 2012, and i was looking at the SCT x4 w/MPT tunes but ive heard tuners are "engine killers"and with my miles i was wondering if its a bad idea
not running a catch can for 130,000 miles should be more of concern for you then putting a tune on your truck. slap that tuner on and don't look back brother
What kind of fuel efficiency for normal driving can you expect to see with those five upgrades ? obviously with your foot in it you’ll see quite Less just curious for daily driving thanks
Gen 2 timing chain issues fixed, no problem with my oil pump, turbos are in great condition, no rear end problems, and the Cam Phasers were just paid for in full by Ford to replace with their newest design.....hmmm....on to the top 5 modifications I guess....sorry you are having all those issues with your truck.
I wish they had those mods for the Ford Expedition ecoboost my dad plans to get a '17 Expedition ecoboost soon (mostly the platinum expedition) & would be cool if there is similar mod for the Expedition ecoboost
@@CJBroncoF150 exhaust might be different cause the Expedition ecoboost exhaust system is slightly different (uses the muffler near the bumper) unless the F150 ecoboost exhaust system can bolt up with no issue also an oil separator is one of the mods I've seen from another video on their F250 ecoboost mods oh yeah, I wonder if its possible to upgrade to bigger turbos along with the bigger intercooler 👀
@@CJBroncoF150 he got a 2016 F150 lariat ecoboost instead would be cool to get the same size turbos but with upgraded internals, bigger intercooler, roush cold air intake, full custom exhaust, & a tune
If you tune a truck for more power before upgrading the required parts you better be ready for increased failures and increased oil change intervals. There is a reason the factory tune exists.
I just bought a 2013 ecoboost f150. It has 70,000 miles on it and never had a catch can. Should I get one or is the damage to the engine already done and it's too late now?
There a 2013 Ford F-150 Ecoboost with 179k miles and tends smoke. Like truck it's lifted looks nice but you think ok investment. I know I'm have put in some upgrades or should just look for truck little newer.?
UPR recommends installing the ECSS along with their oil separator which gets both with additional hardware to over $750. Did you also install the clean side separator?
A cat-back exhaust does absolutely nothing to get rid the air quicker. Its for sound. Youd need down pipes and the larger turbo adaptors that connects the turbo to the down pipes.
Im in the market for a new truck and have always been a fan of the hemi. Ive been looking at some eco boosts for a few days now and they def have my attention. Basically driving 60 miles a day (highway) and putting the ocasional semi truck tire in the back. Anyone have one of these? If so, tell me what you think.
STOP THINKING AND START LOOKING FOR A clean no rust, good mechanically and aesthetically taken care of 3.5 if possible or a 2.7. Best decision I made for a first truck . 2019 Ford F150 Lariat Dark Red 💯🎩
I found a lot used F150 ecoboost pretty good deals but 2013 have 150,000 can add catch can oil? Or have to washing off GDI? What best is advice? I’m apology I’m not good grammar.
Heres the main parts list that is currently on our truck: Wheels and tires www.cjponyparts.com/roush-m-t-metal-series-wheel-20-x9-matte-black-set-with-mickey-thompson-baja-atz-p3-305-55r20-tires-2015-2017/p/422015/ Fender Flares: www.cjponyparts.com/roush-fender-flare-kit-with-led-lighting-f-150-2015-2017/p/422013/ Front Bumper: www.cjponyparts.com/addictive-desert-designs-front-bumper-venom-r-f-150-2015-2017/p/F152492830103/ Rear Bumper: www.cjponyparts.com/addictive-desert-designs-rear-bumper-venom-with-backup-sensor-cutouts-f-150-2015-2017/p/R152231280103/ Exhaust/turbos: www.cjponyparts.com/borla-twin-turbo-and-cat-back-exhaust-upgrade-kit-dual-side-exit-3-5l-ecoboost-f-150-2015-2017/p/251009/ Intake: www.cjponyparts.com/afe-cold-air-h-pipe-intake-system-magnum-force-stage-2-with-pro-dry-s-filters-black-ecoboost-2-7l-3-5l-f-150-2015-2016/p/5112642B/ Intercooler: www.cjponyparts.com/afe-intercooler-bladerunner-ecoboost-2-7l-3-5l-f-150-2015-2017/p/4620201/ Intercooler pipes: www.cjponyparts.com/mbrp-intercooler-pipe-kit-hot-side-2-1-2-ecoboost-3-5l-f-150-2015-2017/p/IC2649H/ Tuner: (came with turbo kit): www.cjponyparts.com/sct-x4-power-flash-programmer-f-150-2011-2016/p/XCAL4EB/ Suspension: www.cjponyparts.com/roush-suspension-kit-fox-2-0-f-150-2015-2017/p/422014/ Grill: www.cjponyparts.com/t-rex-grilles-main-grille-x-metal-series-black-f-150-2015-2017/p/6715731/
Getting ready to replace the wheels and tires on my 2018 F 150 5.0 SuperCrew. Do you know if I will have rubbing issues if I go with a 20" Fuel Avenger rim (20x10 with a -18 offset) using BFG TA KO2 285 55 R20 tires? I like the aggressive stance that would offer me, but I do not want to have rubbing issues when making turns. I guess the Fuel Avenger 20x9 (with a positive 1 offset) rims using BFG TA K02 275 55 R20 is my safest bet but will not look quite as rugged. Thanks for your help!
You said this ecoboost needs AOS otherwise it will have problem. That sounds to me ecoboost motor has major engine defect. Why dont you recommend us to get old V8 engine with it. I rather give up 2 -3 MPG for daily driving and reliability. Having V8 will give us better MPG when we tow. Also No need fancy muffler for better sound. No need to worry about Major engine design defect either. I'm not very convinced with ECO boost after watching your video. Great video clip btw. Thank for sharing information
Any direct injection engine needs an oil separator, it's not just the ecoboost. If youd rather lose the MPGs, torque and power of going back to a V8 than spending a few bucks on the ecoboost to keep it healthy than that's your choice. Thanks for watching
Freddy CJPP you are right but Spending over $35k and you need to add additional parts to keep engine healthy? That doesn't sounds right. I'm not saying your AOS approach is wrong. Over $35000 truck won't last healthy without upgrade parts on them. I think that's defect; ford should fix it not the customer!
Ford did address the issue in the 2017 models, they made the engines with dual port injection so an oil separator is not that crucial on them. It does suck that the older models need aftermarket parts to stay healthy, but me the few extra dollars is well worth it.
Hi , I've been thinking about to buying a f150 2014 with ecoboost , it's still recommended buying the oil separator ? Or what do you recommend to do before installing it , tnks !
I would definitely, I had an issue with all the moister and gunk forming on the inner cooler and it was enough to choke my motor. Then after the catch can, I cleaned my injectors and did a few premium gas fill ups, she's running like a champ at 172k
Why is it called cold air intakes? It’s getting hot air that’s contained in the engine bay, it seems to me the factory would be colder since they draw from an air dam, wheel well or grill, fresh air. It sounds backwards to me.
I've been considering installing a AFE bladerunner intercooler on my 2015 3.5 do you guys recommend the one from the video more? How much of a difference in power will you get from a aftermarket intercooler?
We installed a Mishimoto and AFE intercooler in our F150s and both fit and work great. We don't have any data to prove it one is better than the other though. Simply bolting it on will give you a minimal power increase, you need to do a tune as well to get the most out of it.
I have a 2013 F150 ecoboost 3.5l 2wheel drive. A guy who does exhaust says I can’t put exhaust on my truck. Is this true and if not, What are some recommendations ?
If the engine needs a "catch can", just opt for the 5.0 V-8. Trying to make a small engine produce high horsepower through turbocharging just doesn't seem like a good idea. Go with the PROVEN V-8 that still gets 385 hp and 20mpg. You can't go wrong.
Hey, If I change tires on my ( Ford F150 2019 4X4 ) to 305-55-R20 and add a 2.5 leveling kit Will by enough on the front end? I don't want to trim anything. I Will be using the same rims.ThxJD
That tire size is about 33x12.5 and should be fine with a 2.5 leveling kit, the only thing that would interfere is the backspacing on the wheels, if you are using stock there will be rubbing without installing wheel spacers!
When you popped the hood first, I was scared. This was all sound advice though. I have a 17 and not sure what the best intercooler options are. I came from the boost world and more boost isn't the first option. Thanks for the good advice!
I just got a 2013 F150 V6 3.5L lariat eco-boost. obviously yours is three years newer than mine but do they make the Oil catch cans for the 2013 eco-boost? Or is it even necessary on that year?
CJ Off-Road So one more question. I’m new to the whole ego boost world. Is there any of the plug-in tunes that will boost gas mileage I probably will not be doing a lot of towing it will be a lot more highway driving and city driving at this point in time. I do not have a trailer or a camper so it will be my daily driver when I’m not on the road for work so be nice to have better gas mileage out of it.
I have a 2016 f150 platinum 3.5 ecoboost. Does my engine version have direct and port injection ? btw i had a 14 raptor. traded it for my 16 platinum. My takeaway is that the 3.5 is every bit as quick as my 5.0 raptor was. The only thing is the sound. personally i don't care to hear the rumble of a v8. been there done that . mine is loud enough plus better mileage.
There are oil vapors created inside the engine from the motor oil that blow through the PCV system, an oil separator catches these vapors preventing them from going back into the intake like it normally would. When changing your oil you can drain the catch cans into your waste bin with the rest of your used motor oil and discard the oil like you normally would.
I recently purchased a new 2018 Raptor. I've currently got 4400 miles on it. I've been wanting to install a UPR and concerned about your comments in regards to carbon build-up, etc., thus leading to engine failure. To hear after 3-4K miles both catch cans were full is extremely concerning. Is there something I can have done in the process of installing the UPR to clean-up any carbon, etc. that has built up over the 4400 miles I've put on the Raptor? Do you also recommend adding the Separator as well or just the Catch-Can? Your Catch-Can looks to have 2 hoses on it whereby I've seen other UPR Catch-Cans that have 3 hoses. Does this 3rd hose eliminate the need for the Separator? Thanks!
You dont need to be as worried since you have the 2018 which has direct and port injection, so your valves are getting a little cleaned off by the fuel injectors. After only 4,400 mile shouldn't have anything to worry about, but its still important to get an oil separator on as soon as you can. Some kits are different than others, some 2 cans with 2 hoses, and some have 1 can with 3 hoses, it all depends on the kit that you get.
First mod no longer really NEEDED since the 3.5 EB's have direct AND port injection now, I think I'd rather spend that $$ on a leveling kit from Boss. :-)
It's still a good idea to have on any vehicle since oil decreases the octane rating of fuel when it's added, plus it still gets the rest of the intake system covered in carbon and oil but you are correct about it not being as crucial for the 2017+ 3.5 Ecoboost.
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Good recommendations! Question: do any of those avoid the warranty?
Most of these modifcations would most likely void the warranty, call your local dealership to make sure, we do offer a bunch of Roush and Ford Performance products that may help you out.
Typically cat backs and cold air intakes don't void warranties. The catch can I'm not too sure. I'd call and ask. Touching the ECM at all will most likely void your warranty. That's a no touch item while under warranty.
Its an Addictive Desert Designs bumper, heres the link www.cjponyparts.com/addictive-desert-designs-front-bumper-stealth-r-with-stealth-panels-and-vented-skid-plate-f-150-v8-ecoboost-2015-2017/p/F153752890103/
Freddy, I installed a catch can in my 2014 Ecoboost about 3000 miles ago and not a drop in it! You think I installed wrong or am just lucky there's nothing in it?
Freddy CJPP it's the UPR dual valve with clean side separator for a 2014 f150. Mounted it in front of the radiator. I'm not complaining about it and glad I have it. Just curious since I've seen so many people with catch can that are catching a bunch of gunk. My truck only has 19k miles. Does the low miles have anything to do with it?
it isn't going faster until you get bigger turbos...that exhaust and cold air intake sounds nice but its a waste of money but people like it because of the sound and thats alright too. Only way you will see a difference in power is a tune and bigger turbos
If the catch can is so important for the ecoboost engine why hasn't Ford Company put their own in why isn't there a Ford catch can why are they still making them without catch cans I bought a 2017 2.7 EcoBoost F150 and there's no catch can on it
trexlilhands I still think no because in that case they would be lying and they'll be liable to get sued if you needed a catch can I think Ford would put it on there or at least Ford would make their own and make the money these guys are making scaring people thinking they need it
You should not install the upr catch can kits on this truck in cold high humidity climates, like the north east USA and Canada, it will freeze in sub zero temps and will cause major issues, stalling the truck and potentially more serious issues, you need a heated garage to keep your truck in with this kit.
The 2nd gen 3.5 EB is direct AND port injected so the intake valves get "washed" unlike a direct injected only motor. The separators should still keep liquid oil from entering your intake though but that's an entirely different debate and is more about gunking up your intake and affecting fuel economy by diluting your octane level. I have a JLT separator on the passenger side of my GT350.
Oil separators good ideas on every vehicle, but its much more crucial to have them on the earlier Ecoboosts since they're strictly direct injection, the new ones with direct and port injection should still get an oil separator but it's just not as crucial for them.
I have a 2012 F-150 ecoboost (v6) that I got like 4/5 months ago. I'm still learning about the truck, if I got the oil separators is there any maintenance I need to do periodically to those?
All you would have to do is drain the catch cans everytime you change the oil, if you drive the truck really hard you may have to drain it sooner though.
The f150 and expedition are very similar but not exactly the same. Some of the mods may work on both and some won't. For instance the intakes and exhausts are very similar but there are different part numbers for the expedition and F150, so those may not fit both vehicles.
Here is the suspension we are running www.cjponyparts.com/roush-suspension-kit-fox-2-0-f-150-2015-2017/p/422014/ Here's the wheel & tire package www.cjponyparts.com/roush-m-t-metal-series-wheel-20-x9-matte-black-set-with-mickey-thompson-baja-atz-p3-305-55r20-tires-2015-2017/p/422015/
CJ Off-Road why wouldn't ford put an oil separator in the truck if it was needed? It cant be some super secret. I'm sure they have some smart engineers working at ford.
I like your video because you talk fast, don't have any time wasting frilly stuff and you get right to the point! Thank you. Very well done.
Thanks for the kind words!
Well said! Straight to the point, none of the 'Remember to like and subscribe rubbish', very refreshing
I have owned a 2014 and have a 2016 f150 with 3.5 ecoboost. I definitely agree with oil separator for the first mod but second would FOR SURE have to be a tuner and an email tune (I went with livewire TS and unleashed for the tune). Third would be y-pipe, they actually have an amazing exhaust sound and lets a lot of heat out plus lots of flow (I went with afe off road lol). I find that none of the cat-backs sound decent plus there really isn't much of an improved flow compared to modifying further upstream. From what i have read getting a dry drop in performance filter and leaving the rest stock is just as good (as far as hp gains ) as the cold air kits.
I absolutely love this "project" truck! I was a huge fan of the F-150 until I started looking into the EcoBoost engine and realized how much of a difference there is and how much better it ends up being.
Yes it is an amazing truck!
Now my question, can it off road? But, still be used comfortably as a daily driver?
Of course it can off road, it isn't a rock crawler or a super mud bogger, but its got nice tires and a leveling kit on it, and its very comfortable to daily drive.
EcoBoost is the way to go if you dont care about the sound of the truck and dont want to do high end mods like a supercharger
Was happy to run into this video because I’ve been wondering about the oil separator everyone I ask on the street did not have a clue what I was talking about thanks for this video👍🏾
Have had my new 2017 3.5 with 10 speed transmission and it is awesome. Have around 4k Miles on her and I average 20-21 mpg mix City and highway. Can't wait to do a long road trip and see what she can do. Absolutely love this truck. No reason for a V8 except for noise. Lmao
Sweet! Thanks for watching!
I took mine in the hills of Pennsylvania from Michigan, and loved every minute of it. 22.6mpg for the 1400 mile trip. Probably could have done better if I took it a little easier.
Nice!
Yeah the v8s are super unreliable
Got a 2018 f150 5.0l 10 speed and a 2018 2.7l 10 speed for work, v8 win in overall performance and people are surprised when I tell them the v8 gets 18.6 average and I only get 19.8 to 20.1 in the 2.7 , fuel economy varies more in the v6. But at the end of the day the 5.0l puts car lengths on it and just screams America. 3.5l vs 5.0l 2 out of 3 was too close to call a winner
The oil separator should be installed at the Ford factory.
Yup!
But then how are they gonna sell new trucks of all the old ones still run
Has anyone ever had long term proof that a catch can works over time, I haven't found a video that shows it yet, everyone claims they work but I have yet to see someone show valves at high mileage with a can. I'm probably gonna put one on my low mileage '14 as a preventative anyway...
@@zr2trackerjoe It's all bullshit. Ecoboost engines in the F150's have been out for 10 years. Other than a few issues, there are trucks well over 200k miles that are still running on stock turbos.
@@mattc1248 Ford has sold more then 1,000.000 F150 EcoBoosts, it's just a gimmick. Like saying that you get better fuel mileage AND more power with a K&N air filter! People fall for this crap.
If any of these aftermarket performance car parts sellers ever stopped shilling Cold air intakes and stuck to practical stuff that actually adds performance they would easily become the go to spot for people who want to actually maker their car/truck faster. I thought offering an oil separator first was a good touch, as that will actually help preserve your engine, the cat back & intake tho aren't really going to give a lot of HP/TQ even when modded, catback maybe gives an extra 5hp. Cold air intake is almost snake oil sure it gives a louder sound, but its been proven over and over on many different cars that stock intakes are light years better then what was on early 90s-80s and prior cars, ford, chevy etc spend huge amounts of time and money into developing efficient intake systems on modern cars and are optimized to draw in the most amount of cold air right off of the front of the hood, put those things on a dyno and you will see no gain with an intake, tune for tune mod for mod.
one thing we need is proof that exhaust and a cold air intake to replace the factory cold air intake actually does anything for performance and for the cost associated with these upgrades it better be more than 4hp. I think we all know without a tune none of these parts give you any real power. Please prove me wrong with some dyno charts. btw i have owned more than one ecoboost and love the motor but any aftermarket exhaust just sounds like trash.
Sean Leon exactly, I went into his website and I couldn't find anything about the HP gained, and that is the main reason why I could spend a thousand dollars on just a intercooler.
I have a magnaflow double tip catback exhaust, cool air intake and a superchip on my 3.5, the sound is not perfect but it is much better than before, now I like it and I also like the extra power
A quality exhaust is really going to help with any turbocharged vehicle, especially when properly tuned for it, way than it would for naturally aspirated vehicle. A larger and better flowing exhaust will reduce back pressure to help the turbos spool quicker and easier for more power, you pretty much want as little back pressure in a turbocharger exhaust system. You wont get near the same performance gain from a cold air intake as you would with an exhaust, but when you get the whole system free flowing and breathing good and then you tune for it, the truck will run fantastic.
Any data to prove it better than factory?
Actually yes th-cam.com/video/REfpNxR0C8k/w-d-xo.html
Personally i would enjoy a nice big screen showing each turbo boost pressure with calculated turbine rpm along with other data such as trans temp oil pressure and temp etc..... butbyea why replacevthe factor stainless exhaustband engineered air filter system for aftermarket trash? If i was a dealer i would instantly void warranty on anything with aftermarket air filters
I like my 3.5 eco, but frankly I’m still waiting to hear an exhaust that I think sounds good. Until then it’s stock for me.
search borla atak on youtube they have 3 different that sound awesome i personally have the atak
@@venum5963 an acquaintance has that exhaust, I like the turbo whistle but not the tone.
Ok just listened to multiple videos and no offense but the atak sounds more like a tractor on video than in real life. Granted I’m sixty years old so........
Bruh it’s a six cylinder not an 8 the sound is only going to differ a bit people tell me it sounds like a car
Spd whistle package . Sounds great
I was all set up to thumbs down this video because I saw the afe CAI when you said the first modification should be..... a catch can. Great recommendation, thumbs up!
Thanks!
just got a 2013 ecoboost. i am excited with this project lol
nice. I have a 2015 Platinum F150 with 3.5 EB. I don't plan on changing the exhaust system because they sound crappy. but I plan to go with CAI,Catch Can,and a Tune. if I can make over 425+hp and over 460LB ft torque,then I'm good
It's a powerful truck, good luck! :D
Interesting, the first mods for a Gen 1 Raptor was all about off roading, lightning, winch, bigger shocks, air compressor. First mods for a Gen 2 Raptor is all about street performance, CAI, Exhaust, Tunes, ICs.
It's probably because a very large portion of the people who buy a brand new $70k Raptor won't actually take their truck off road that much if at all.
The catch can pulls condensation from your engine, not oil. (There is a taint of oil) but it is not the oil that is rough on the injectors, the h2o is.
it has a mix of both, definitely don't want it circulating back!
The newer Ecoboost have direct injection AND port injection. The port injection cures the build up problem.
The problem is also more likely in colder climates.
Here in the Arizona desert I don't think it is going to be much of a problem.
that's what i thought. i thought all ecoboost engines in aluminum F-150s (pictured) had moved to direct AND port injection, specifically b/c of the issue discussed. i'm not sure when they switched over so correct if i'm wrong. all i know is that my '17 Raptor has both port and direct injection
I believe the switch is the 2nd generation.
hackfreehvac what year did this improvement begin? Thanks!
Bull....
I don't know. I just know that a revision brought port injection as a secondary system to clean the valves.
Skip the intake and the catch can and go with a water/meth injection kit, upgraded coils, and plugs. The stock intake pulls in much colder air from the fender well outside the hot engine bay and more than enough for any safe level of boost. You’ll be about 60hp ahead of this guy for the same money.
Meth kits are awesome, I have one on my personal vehicle but I doubt many people will want to deal with the installation of one.
Super easy, it's all bolt on. If you buy it from a place like MPT. They will send you revised tunes based on the mods you buy from them so you can rest easy knowing that it is performing correctly.
@@freddycjpp3660 I know man! Every time I get a meth kit the cops take it from me
Just read an article that said the Ecoboost has included port injection in the Gen 2 since 2017. Wouldn’t that eliminate the need for catch can?
Yes and no. The port injector does help clean the intake valves but the catch can will help with catching all those blow by vapors keeping them out of the intake.
i have just under 130,000 miles on my 2012, and i was looking at the SCT x4 w/MPT tunes but ive heard tuners are "engine killers"and with my miles i was wondering if its a bad idea
not running a catch can for 130,000 miles should be more of concern for you then putting a tune on your truck. slap that tuner on and don't look back brother
You'll be fine, they are designed to increase performance without sacrificing reliability!
What kind of fuel efficiency for normal driving can you expect to see with those five upgrades ? obviously with your foot in it you’ll see quite Less just curious for daily driving thanks
It depends on a variety of factors but our truck with 33" tires around town and driven pretty hard gets about 17mpg I believe.
Top 5 modifications, save your money for when you need a timing chain, oil pump, turbos, rear end, cam phasers
Your not wrong
I mean…your not wrong
Lmao. Not wrong... The timing chain and phasers were not nice to the bank account
Sooo fuckin true.
Gen 2 timing chain issues fixed, no problem with my oil pump, turbos are in great condition, no rear end problems, and the Cam Phasers were just paid for in full by Ford to replace with their newest design.....hmmm....on to the top 5 modifications I guess....sorry you are having all those issues with your truck.
I wish they had those mods for the Ford Expedition ecoboost
my dad plans to get a '17 Expedition ecoboost soon (mostly the platinum expedition) & would be cool if there is similar mod for the Expedition ecoboost
i would assume some of the mods would fit since it would be the same engine.
@@CJBroncoF150 exhaust might be different cause the Expedition ecoboost exhaust system is slightly different (uses the muffler near the bumper) unless the F150 ecoboost exhaust system can bolt up with no issue
also an oil separator is one of the mods I've seen from another video on their F250 ecoboost mods
oh yeah, I wonder if its possible to upgrade to bigger turbos along with the bigger intercooler 👀
@@CJBroncoF150 he got a 2016 F150 lariat ecoboost instead
would be cool to get the same size turbos but with upgraded internals, bigger intercooler, roush cold air intake, full custom exhaust, & a tune
If you tune a truck for more power before upgrading the required parts you better be ready for increased failures and increased oil change intervals. There is a reason the factory tune exists.
But that is your opinion not fact
i have a stock 2019 sport 4x4 3.5 and it eats v8s all day
@@tbsb8428 it does..and you can find youtube videos of them doing just that
Right on !!!!
yeah V8's are not really a test for this motor. The Ford 5.0 was a joke when i test road it after testing the ecoboost
I just bought a 2013 ecoboost f150. It has 70,000 miles on it and never had a catch can. Should I get one or is the damage to the engine already done and it's too late now?
Don't listen to Sheldon.
Yes, some of the damage is done, but it will only get worse. Get a catch can and slow down the buildup.
Some "damage" has already been done, mainly just carbon build up, I would get one as soon as you can.
For these rims, were you able to use the stock lug nuts or aftermarket?
We had to use aftermarket on these, it helped with clearance and gave it a better look
I haven't used triple a in over 10 years, been that long since I owned a Ford.
There a 2013 Ford F-150 Ecoboost with 179k miles and tends smoke. Like truck it's lifted looks nice but you think ok investment. I know I'm have put in some upgrades or should just look for truck little newer.?
UPR recommends installing the ECSS along with their oil separator which gets both with additional hardware to over $750. Did you also install the clean side separator?
Most oem exhausts are nowhere near as restrictive as oem paper filters. That's why most people do an intake first.
Then just get a K&N filter
Does the cold air intake affect the gas/mpg?
If you getting modifications you not worried about gas
Man, I am definitely not a fan of those Metal X grilles. I think they just look tacky.
A cat-back exhaust does absolutely nothing to get rid the air quicker. Its for sound. Youd need down pipes and the larger turbo adaptors that connects the turbo to the down pipes.
The best mod you can do is disable that stupid auto start/stop "feature".
Yeah I don't like that feature either.
Yes there is a nice video for that. th-cam.com/video/Qf0dQEUg9VQ/w-d-xo.html
Mine doesnt have that. Was that after 2015?
Do these modifications hold true for the 2nd generation (2017+) 3.5l ecoboost engines
If I added a intercooler and larger cold and hot side pipes to the truck does it require a tune? Thanks
Should I tune my 3.5 when wanting to straight pipe? Or will it run fine without a tune but straight pipe?
Im in the market for a new truck and have always been a fan of the hemi. Ive been looking at some eco boosts for a few days now and they def have my attention. Basically driving 60 miles a day (highway) and putting the ocasional semi truck tire in the back. Anyone have one of these? If so, tell me what you think.
STOP THINKING AND START LOOKING FOR A clean no rust, good mechanically and aesthetically taken care of 3.5 if possible or a 2.7. Best decision I made for a first truck . 2019 Ford F150 Lariat Dark Red 💯🎩
I found a lot used F150 ecoboost pretty good deals but 2013 have 150,000 can add catch can oil? Or have to washing off GDI? What best is advice? I’m apology I’m not good grammar.
Are these just as good for the 2.7 as for the 3.5 ecoboosts?
Yup!
Love the set up on that truck ..how much would something like that would cost for a 2011 f150 ecoboost ..
Heres the main parts list that is currently on our truck:
Wheels and tires www.cjponyparts.com/roush-m-t-metal-series-wheel-20-x9-matte-black-set-with-mickey-thompson-baja-atz-p3-305-55r20-tires-2015-2017/p/422015/
Fender Flares: www.cjponyparts.com/roush-fender-flare-kit-with-led-lighting-f-150-2015-2017/p/422013/
Front Bumper: www.cjponyparts.com/addictive-desert-designs-front-bumper-venom-r-f-150-2015-2017/p/F152492830103/
Rear Bumper: www.cjponyparts.com/addictive-desert-designs-rear-bumper-venom-with-backup-sensor-cutouts-f-150-2015-2017/p/R152231280103/
Exhaust/turbos: www.cjponyparts.com/borla-twin-turbo-and-cat-back-exhaust-upgrade-kit-dual-side-exit-3-5l-ecoboost-f-150-2015-2017/p/251009/
Intake: www.cjponyparts.com/afe-cold-air-h-pipe-intake-system-magnum-force-stage-2-with-pro-dry-s-filters-black-ecoboost-2-7l-3-5l-f-150-2015-2016/p/5112642B/
Intercooler: www.cjponyparts.com/afe-intercooler-bladerunner-ecoboost-2-7l-3-5l-f-150-2015-2017/p/4620201/
Intercooler pipes: www.cjponyparts.com/mbrp-intercooler-pipe-kit-hot-side-2-1-2-ecoboost-3-5l-f-150-2015-2017/p/IC2649H/
Tuner: (came with turbo kit): www.cjponyparts.com/sct-x4-power-flash-programmer-f-150-2011-2016/p/XCAL4EB/
Suspension: www.cjponyparts.com/roush-suspension-kit-fox-2-0-f-150-2015-2017/p/422014/
Grill: www.cjponyparts.com/t-rex-grilles-main-grille-x-metal-series-black-f-150-2015-2017/p/6715731/
Where is your nears shop located at? I lived in nc
We are located in Harrisburg PA
Awesome I'll be seeing y'all soon
Getting ready to replace the wheels and tires on my 2018 F 150 5.0 SuperCrew. Do you know if I will have rubbing issues if I go with a 20" Fuel Avenger rim (20x10 with a -18 offset) using BFG TA KO2 285 55 R20 tires? I like the aggressive stance that would offer me, but I do not want to have rubbing issues when making turns. I guess the Fuel Avenger 20x9 (with a positive 1 offset) rims using BFG TA K02 275 55 R20 is my safest bet but will not look quite as rugged. Thanks for your help!
A positive offset will help the wheels poke out more and give you more clearance for sure!
Should have done a before and after dyno.....would be more a selling point if we could see what each part did on the dyno
We've installed so many parts on this truck we would still be on the dyno doing before and after pulls haha.
You said this ecoboost needs AOS otherwise it will have problem. That sounds to me ecoboost motor has major engine defect. Why dont you recommend us to get old V8 engine with it. I rather give up 2 -3 MPG for daily driving and reliability. Having V8 will give us better MPG when we tow. Also No need fancy muffler for better sound. No need to worry about Major engine design defect either. I'm not very convinced with ECO boost after watching your video. Great video clip btw. Thank for sharing information
Any direct injection engine needs an oil separator, it's not just the ecoboost. If youd rather lose the MPGs, torque and power of going back to a V8 than spending a few bucks on the ecoboost to keep it healthy than that's your choice. Thanks for watching
Freddy CJPP you are right but Spending over $35k and you need to add additional parts to keep engine healthy? That doesn't sounds right. I'm not saying your AOS approach is wrong. Over $35000 truck won't last healthy without upgrade parts on them. I think that's defect; ford should fix it not the customer!
Ford did address the issue in the 2017 models, they made the engines with dual port injection so an oil separator is not that crucial on them. It does suck that the older models need aftermarket parts to stay healthy, but me the few extra dollars is well worth it.
How much does mpg go down after increasing air flow and exhaust?
who cares about mpg. Its a truck
@@dannkelly1615 someone with common sense who uses it like a truck and not a sports car if you must ask.
Hi , I've been thinking about to buying a f150 2014 with ecoboost , it's still recommended buying the oil separator ? Or what do you recommend to do before installing it , tnks !
I would definitely, I had an issue with all the moister and gunk forming on the inner cooler and it was enough to choke my motor. Then after the catch can, I cleaned my injectors and did a few premium gas fill ups, she's running like a champ at 172k
Question, if a tune is used on a truck being financed, does it void the warranty?
Why is it called cold air intakes? It’s getting hot air that’s contained in the engine bay, it seems to me the factory would be colder since they draw from an air dam, wheel well or grill, fresh air. It sounds backwards to me.
Is there a throttle coolant bypass we can do on our diesel engines??anyways i own a diffrent one from yours...i own isuzu dmax 3.0☺
I've been considering installing a AFE bladerunner intercooler on my 2015 3.5 do you guys recommend the one from the video more? How much of a difference in power will you get from a aftermarket intercooler?
We installed a Mishimoto and AFE intercooler in our F150s and both fit and work great. We don't have any data to prove it one is better than the other though. Simply bolting it on will give you a minimal power increase, you need to do a tune as well to get the most out of it.
Hey I have a question what’s the estimated cost of these upgrades in the video
Couple grand prob depending on what brands you get
Just picked up a 2015 3.5 Larit. Installed a K@N cold air intake yesterday. does the 2015 need a oil separator ?
Yes you should get an oil separator as soon as you possibly can for your truck and you will be amazed at how much fluid you catch.
I have a 2013 F150 ecoboost 3.5l 2wheel drive. A guy who does exhaust says I can’t put exhaust on my truck. Is this true and if not, What are some recommendations ?
Most exhausts we offer fit both the 2wd and 4wd models.
If the engine needs a "catch can", just opt for the 5.0 V-8. Trying to make a small engine produce high horsepower through turbocharging just doesn't seem like a good idea. Go with the PROVEN V-8 that still gets 385 hp and 20mpg. You can't go wrong.
quinnjim the problem is fixed. And it’s not just that one engine. It’s all direct injection engines.
quinnjim or get the new Ecoboost version 2.
the 5.0 needs one as well..
I sold my 2013 chevy 5.3 crew cab for a 2017 ford 3.5 twin turbo
Infandous Ktenology ... Thanks for sharing. It would be nice if more fleet owners would post comparison feedback.
Hey, If I change tires on my ( Ford F150 2019 4X4 ) to 305-55-R20 and add a 2.5 leveling kit Will by enough on the front end? I don't want to trim anything. I Will be using the same rims.ThxJD
That tire size is about 33x12.5 and should be fine with a 2.5 leveling kit, the only thing that would interfere is the backspacing on the wheels, if you are using stock there will be rubbing without installing wheel spacers!
When you popped the hood first, I was scared. This was all sound advice though. I have a 17 and not sure what the best intercooler options are. I came from the boost world and more boost isn't the first option. Thanks for the good advice!
Thanks for watching! Glad we could help!
Do any of these kids void warranty? 2019 f150 stx 3.5 ecoboost
You'll have to consult your dealership, some will and some won't depending on who installs them!
Man, where are you located so I can take my F150 to get these modifications done?!...
Badass video. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
I just got a 2013 F150 V6 3.5L lariat eco-boost. obviously yours is three years newer than mine but do they make the Oil catch cans for the 2013 eco-boost? Or is it even necessary on that year?
We offer a few different types of oil separators for your exact truck and yes theyre still very necessary.
CJ Off-Road So one more question. I’m new to the whole ego boost world. Is there any of the plug-in tunes that will boost gas mileage I probably will not be doing a lot of towing it will be a lot more highway driving and city driving at this point in time. I do not have a trailer or a camper so it will be my daily driver when I’m not on the road for work so be nice to have better gas mileage out of it.
I have a 16 f150 2.7. Drive it 2 weeks bad heads, and sunroof. Now ac 😢
Serious question..how come the good folks at Ford don't sell the truck with the oil seporater on it already?
We actually answered that question in this video th-cam.com/video/YlT346ccRBs/w-d-xo.html
What cat back exhaust kit do you recommend for the 2018 2.7?
So which programmer do you prefer? I watched your video on the bully installation and it seemed user friendly. I own a 2012
BullyDog is a really good choice.
I have a 2016 f150 platinum 3.5 ecoboost. Does my engine version have direct and port injection ? btw i had a 14 raptor. traded it for my 16 platinum. My takeaway is that the 3.5 is every bit as quick as my 5.0 raptor was. The only thing is the sound. personally i don't care to hear the rumble of a v8. been there done that . mine is loud enough plus better mileage.
Your ecoboost only has direct injection
2016 2.7...what would all these upgrades cost in total?....estimated
I am confused. Is the oil coming from the gas or the motor oil? What do you do with the oil that collects in the can?
There are oil vapors created inside the engine from the motor oil that blow through the PCV system, an oil separator catches these vapors preventing them from going back into the intake like it normally would. When changing your oil you can drain the catch cans into your waste bin with the rest of your used motor oil and discard the oil like you normally would.
I recently purchased a new 2018 Raptor. I've currently got 4400 miles on it. I've been wanting to install a UPR and concerned about your comments in regards to carbon build-up, etc., thus leading to engine failure. To hear after 3-4K miles both catch cans were full is extremely concerning. Is there something I can have done in the process of installing the UPR to clean-up any carbon, etc. that has built up over the 4400 miles I've put on the Raptor? Do you also recommend adding the Separator as well or just the Catch-Can? Your Catch-Can looks to have 2 hoses on it whereby I've seen other UPR Catch-Cans that have 3 hoses. Does this 3rd hose eliminate the need for the Separator? Thanks!
You dont need to be as worried since you have the 2018 which has direct and port injection, so your valves are getting a little cleaned off by the fuel injectors. After only 4,400 mile shouldn't have anything to worry about, but its still important to get an oil separator on as soon as you can. Some kits are different than others, some 2 cans with 2 hoses, and some have 1 can with 3 hoses, it all depends on the kit that you get.
Thank You - I plan on ordering the UPR setup with 3 hoses. Thank You Again!!
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Nice vid ! Same for a 2015?
Catch can, yes. 2-noise, 3-noise, 4-significantly better than factory? doubt it, 5- If you're blowing money on 2-4 why stop there get 5 too.
Gorgeous color.
First mod no longer really NEEDED since the 3.5 EB's have direct AND port injection now, I think I'd rather spend that $$ on a leveling kit from Boss. :-)
It's still a good idea to have on any vehicle since oil decreases the octane rating of fuel when it's added, plus it still gets the rest of the intake system covered in carbon and oil but you are correct about it not being as crucial for the 2017+ 3.5 Ecoboost.
Good recommendations! Question: do any of those avoid the warranty?
Most of these modifcations would most likely void the warranty, call your local dealership to make sure, we do offer a bunch of Roush and Ford Performance products that may help you out.
The tune can, if they can prove that the tune was the root cause of the engine failure. Saw this a lot on Subaru vehicles when I was at a dealer.
Typically cat backs and cold air intakes don't void warranties. The catch can I'm not too sure. I'd call and ask. Touching the ECM at all will most likely void your warranty. That's a no touch item while under warranty.
What brand front bumper do you have on that F150?!
Its an Addictive Desert Designs bumper, heres the link www.cjponyparts.com/addictive-desert-designs-front-bumper-stealth-r-with-stealth-panels-and-vented-skid-plate-f-150-v8-ecoboost-2015-2017/p/F153752890103/
Did you guys ever get the truck dyno tuned or still running 5*?
We got it dyno tuned and it made 390 HP and 407 TQ at the wheels
Fine truck and very fine little bear 🐻
looool
top modification for f-150. Winter tires.
Especially if you see a harsh winter!
What about a 170 degree thermostat?
Do you know if that cold air intake will fit on a 2013 f-150 3.5L?
Here's a list of intakes we carry that will fit your 2013 www.cjponyparts.com/2013-ford-f150-parts/c/4098/?product_type=141
Freddy, I installed a catch can in my 2014 Ecoboost about 3000 miles ago and not a drop in it! You think I installed wrong or am just lucky there's nothing in it?
SMO it's because you don't need one. These salesmen on TH-cam just want your money.
Which catch can did you install? Our 2016 catches a ton of fluid.
If you do a little research you will find how important catch cans are for direct injection engines like the ecoboost.
Freddy CJPP it's the UPR dual valve with clean side separator for a 2014 f150. Mounted it in front of the radiator.
I'm not complaining about it and glad I have it. Just curious since I've seen so many people with catch can that are catching a bunch of gunk.
My truck only has 19k miles. Does the low miles have anything to do with it?
That's interesting, if you have absolutely no fluid built up in the can, it's possible you have the check valves going the wrong direction.
What brand and model flares do you have on that truck?
Roush!
Is there a way to view the turbo gauge on display... 2018 3.5 ecoboost
Go to gauge info and select the boost.
it isn't going faster until you get bigger turbos...that exhaust and cold air intake sounds nice but its a waste of money but people like it because of the sound and thats alright too. Only way you will see a difference in power is a tune and bigger turbos
If the catch can is so important for the ecoboost engine why hasn't Ford Company put their own in why isn't there a Ford catch can why are they still making them without catch cans I bought a 2017 2.7 EcoBoost F150 and there's no catch can on it
trexlilhands I still think no because in that case they would be lying and they'll be liable to get sued if you needed a catch can I think Ford would put it on there or at least Ford would make their own and make the money these guys are making scaring people thinking they need it
trexlilhands I I know people with EcoBoost engines and they have no catch cans with 50 60 70 thousand miles on them with no issues
These people just want to sell their product if you if you needed a catch can Ford would make it
Nice upgrades. You should have your Supra in the background. lol
Haha unfortunately my supra will probably never make it into a CJ video, to see if you'll have to watch my personal videos haha.
You should not install the upr catch can kits on this truck in cold high humidity climates, like the north east USA and Canada, it will freeze in sub zero temps and will cause major issues, stalling the truck and potentially more serious issues, you need a heated garage to keep your truck in with this kit.
That's interesting, what exactly freezes?
Can I run the scorcher with my super chips dash paq?
Great show
Thanks for watching!
Does the 2nd generation 3.5 for 2017-18 need to the oil separators?
The 2nd gen 3.5 EB is direct AND port injected so the intake valves get "washed" unlike a direct injected only motor. The separators should still keep liquid oil from entering your intake though but that's an entirely different debate and is more about gunking up your intake and affecting fuel economy by diluting your octane level. I have a JLT separator on the passenger side of my GT350.
Oil separators good ideas on every vehicle, but its much more crucial to have them on the earlier Ecoboosts since they're strictly direct injection, the new ones with direct and port injection should still get an oil separator but it's just not as crucial for them.
Yup!
I have a 2012 F-150 ecoboost (v6) that I got like 4/5 months ago. I'm still learning about the truck, if I got the oil separators is there any maintenance I need to do periodically to those?
All you would have to do is drain the catch cans everytime you change the oil, if you drive the truck really hard you may have to drain it sooner though.
Great video.
Thanks for watching!
I heard that the oil catch cans are no longer needed for 2020-2021 F-150 because Ford fixed the problem. Anyone else heard that?
I put a catch can on my 2021, but the new ecoboost is a dual injector per cylinder which is supposed to fix the carbon buildup
Hey brother I got a 2012 f150 ecoboost turbo 3.5L an it can't pass 100 mph can you tell what call cause it.
Their is a speed limiter on them from factory!
You’ll need the tune to get rid of that 100 mph speed limiter.
I have a 2011 with 150k should I put a separator?
Ya you should install one 100K miles ago
ABSOLUTELY!!
What kind of grille is that bro??
Do any of the mods listed void the warranty of the truck??
Some may, call your local dealership to be sure.
What mods will and will not void the warranty?
That would be determined by your dealership.
I have a 2018 ford f-150 raptor is this oil separator still needed?
its still a good idea to install one, but its not as crucial as it is on the pre 2017 ecoboosts
Will these same mods fit a 2015 Expedition EcoBoost?
The f150 and expedition are very similar but not exactly the same. Some of the mods may work on both and some won't. For instance the intakes and exhausts are very similar but there are different part numbers for the expedition and F150, so those may not fit both vehicles.
What is the lift height and tire size on the F-150 in this video?
Here is the suspension we are running www.cjponyparts.com/roush-suspension-kit-fox-2-0-f-150-2015-2017/p/422014/
Here's the wheel & tire package www.cjponyparts.com/roush-m-t-metal-series-wheel-20-x9-matte-black-set-with-mickey-thompson-baja-atz-p3-305-55r20-tires-2015-2017/p/422015/
Beautiful, thanks.
Here are my top 5 ways to throw your warranty right out the window 😂
Hahaha the oil separators won't void the warranty!
Lmao i know brother i was just being a smart ass xD
Haha we appreciate your humor, thanks for watching!
Nothing voids a warranty unless they can prove the part(s) added directly contribute to the fail part/system.
CJ Off-Road why wouldn't ford put an oil separator in the truck if it was needed? It cant be some super secret. I'm sure they have some smart engineers working at ford.