Bryan, thanks for sharing your knowledge and reviewing this ETQ. I've been carrying a SWAT-T because it fits in a back pocket, and it can serve multiple purposes. This looks even better as a TQ.
I'd have to say the SWAT-T is probably my least favorites of all. It is just very difficult to self apply one handed (at least for me). You've got to get that first wrap to hold on a bloody limb and then pull relatively hard to stretch it enough (some people may not have the strength, especially if injured), and then you have to do do the whole "pull and tuck" routine without anything coming loose. (Can you tell how much I don't like it?) ;-) If you like the SWAT-T, then you should check this one out. One of these is in my pocket right now. th-cam.com/video/vCyMNS-J9Ok/w-d-xo.html
@SurvivalOnPurpose I learned how to use the SWAT-T from LTC Dave Grossman, but I agree, applying it to yourself is extremely difficult. I'll check out the Snake Staff Sytems.
Looks great. And you and i have disagreed on TQs for several years, lol. Also i always go one turn passed the bad words. Or one more turn after the pulses disappear. Ive seen them either loosen up or the body figures out how to push blood flow beyond a tq and it has to be tightened again so just do one more.
If you carry anything that can make a hole then you should carry one , I carry one even when hiking or fishing a bad fall can break a bone and poke the artery same as any knife so I for one agree 1000% about carrying one .
I don't think the TK4 is being produced anymore. And, honestly, it was never my favorite. I always have trouble both getting the first hook set quickly so I can start wrapping and then i have trouble getting the hook to stay under the wraps after it is applied with enough pressure. Plus the elastic seems to deteriorate with age. I prefer the RAT to the TK4, even though it is always more painful to me.
I decided to look online to see if these were available in UK there was only one listing that was Amazon UK, talk about a jaw drop moment £87.65...that's the equivalent of almost $110
Maybe I haven't found them yet but there isnt any research papers, etc that show the failure points, how well they actually work etc. Hard to justify leaving something like a SOFT-Wide to something that has no track record.
I think these are pretty new. As far as I could determine, they are working on that type validation. But, they do have some pretty serious testing videos on their website attesting to the strength of the design and manufacture. Since the windlass tourniquet design has proven itself, I'm comfortable trusting this more compact version. It's made in the USA and the build quality on the ones I bought is excellent. It doesn't look like they are cutting corners trying to be a "budget" option. But, you have to trust whatever you carry.
@SurvivalOnPurpose not sure why my comments arn't posting but I would highly recommend watching Prep Medics video on this before trusting your life to it.
@@SurvivalOnPurposeI also should state I appreciate the company coming out with an innovative design but I would personally wait for Gen 2 before using it. That's just me though.
The problem here is there is not a single study on these things, they are not TCCC approved and one version does not meet minimal TCCC standards. Is it better than nothing? Maybe. Are they the best? Absolutely not. CAT 7 all day every day....
Suppose the TCCC did not exist. What exactly do you see as a potential problem with this specific tourniquet? Because, if it works, it works. And, based on my non-TCCC testing, it works.
@@SurvivalOnPurposeCoTCCC exists for many reasons, mainly to bring evidence based medicine to light. This one has been proven to not occlude blood flow and has a first time application success rate of 11%, CAT 7 has above 97%. Plus the tissues damage caused by these is pretty bad.
Wait, if there is not a single study on these, how has it been "proven" to not occlude blood, have such a low first time application success rate or cause bad tissue damage? Did you watch the video? It is applied exactly the same at a CAT and the actual constriction band inside the CAT is the same 1. Bottom line, use whatever you trust but I consider this a viable option for those who have resisted carrying a TQ because they are too bulky.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose sorry, what I meant to say was that there hasn’t been a single study on these that show them as being effective. More harm than good. It’s better to save an extra $20 and buy a CAT 7, a proven tourniquet. To suggest these is just practicing and encouraging bad medicine.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose If you wat to trust a tourniquet that has a 11.8% success rate that was developed by a company who trade marked a company called "TCCC" just to say that it was "TCCC approved" after it did not even come close to passing the CoTCCC standards then go for it but spreading misinformation has the potential to cost lives and is just allowing others to practice bad medicine.
Because they don't work, it's been studied. Belts and other DIY methods don't get tight enough or hold. Stop being a cheap skate, they're like $20-30 for a CAT, SOF-T, or RAT which are way more legitimate than these.
@@bobbie4862 your not being rude, I understand. I was looking at it from the ancestors point of view and how they survived without the stuff that you can just buy now. Still some of the things are very cheaply made and snap under pressure. Your right though. Making should be a last resort to a point. It's always better to have the skills to make just incase.
These are excellent tq's. I have had them as soon as they came out. They work very well and are easy to use. Great stuff sir.
I'm buying one right now. Thank you very much for this info
Glad I could help
Bryan, thanks for sharing your knowledge and reviewing this ETQ. I've been carrying a SWAT-T because it fits in a back pocket, and it can serve multiple purposes. This looks even better as a TQ.
I'd have to say the SWAT-T is probably my least favorites of all. It is just very difficult to self apply one handed (at least for me). You've got to get that first wrap to hold on a bloody limb and then pull relatively hard to stretch it enough (some people may not have the strength, especially if injured), and then you have to do do the whole "pull and tuck" routine without anything coming loose. (Can you tell how much I don't like it?) ;-) If you like the SWAT-T, then you should check this one out. One of these is in my pocket right now. th-cam.com/video/vCyMNS-J9Ok/w-d-xo.html
@SurvivalOnPurpose I learned how to use the SWAT-T from LTC Dave Grossman, but I agree, applying it to yourself is extremely difficult. I'll check out the Snake Staff Sytems.
I'm actually been looking at this particular tourniquet for a little while now and I'm seriously considering getting and carrying it
Thanks for all you do, Brian. This looks to be exactly what I want! Stay safe, and God bless 😊
The Snakestaff ETQ is mentioned in the latest author Jack Carr Terminal List series, Red Sky Mourning.
Great review as always!!! Thank you!!!
Looks great. And you and i have disagreed on TQs for several years, lol.
Also i always go one turn passed the bad words. Or one more turn after the pulses disappear. Ive seen them either loosen up or the body figures out how to push blood flow beyond a tq and it has to be tightened again so just do one more.
Thanks Brian, just bought 3!
If you carry anything that can make a hole then you should carry one , I carry one even when hiking or fishing a bad fall can break a bone and poke the artery same as any knife so I for one agree 1000% about carrying one .
Thanks for the info. I have been looking for more compact tourniquet options.
Thanks Brian.👍
I've been looking for a smaller tourniquet. Thanks.
These fit perfect in generic iwb magazine pouches for those looking to carry them and not cover them with pocket lint
Very helpful and informative. Who’s the maker of the elastic mag pouch?
Blue Force Gear . This one: www.blueforcegear.com/single-pistol-belt-pouch.html
Thank you Brian.
Welcome!
Great info.😊
Glad it was helpful!
Tk4 for the win
I don't think the TK4 is being produced anymore. And, honestly, it was never my favorite. I always have trouble both getting the first hook set quickly so I can start wrapping and then i have trouble getting the hook to stay under the wraps after it is applied with enough pressure. Plus the elastic seems to deteriorate with age. I prefer the RAT to the TK4, even though it is always more painful to me.
I decided to look online to see if these were available in UK there was only one listing that was Amazon UK, talk about a jaw drop moment £87.65...that's the equivalent of almost $110
I think they are pretty new and are working to get into other countries.
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Nice shirt!
Maybe I haven't found them yet but there isnt any research papers, etc that show the failure points, how well they actually work etc. Hard to justify leaving something like a SOFT-Wide to something that has no track record.
I think these are pretty new. As far as I could determine, they are working on that type validation. But, they do have some pretty serious testing videos on their website attesting to the strength of the design and manufacture. Since the windlass tourniquet design has proven itself, I'm comfortable trusting this more compact version. It's made in the USA and the build quality on the ones I bought is excellent. It doesn't look like they are cutting corners trying to be a "budget" option. But, you have to trust whatever you carry.
@SurvivalOnPurpose not sure why my comments arn't posting but I would highly recommend watching Prep Medics video on this before trusting your life to it.
@@SurvivalOnPurposeI also should state I appreciate the company coming out with an innovative design but I would personally wait for Gen 2 before using it. That's just me though.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose He is right, there are no studies to back these up and are not TCCC approved.
Carry in my pack . And that goes everywhere with me .
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The problem here is there is not a single study on these things, they are not TCCC approved and one version does not meet minimal TCCC standards. Is it better than nothing? Maybe. Are they the best? Absolutely not. CAT 7 all day every day....
Suppose the TCCC did not exist. What exactly do you see as a potential problem with this specific tourniquet? Because, if it works, it works. And, based on my non-TCCC testing, it works.
@@SurvivalOnPurposeCoTCCC exists for many reasons, mainly to bring evidence based medicine to light. This one has been proven to not occlude blood flow and has a first time application success rate of 11%, CAT 7 has above 97%. Plus the tissues damage caused by these is pretty bad.
Wait, if there is not a single study on these, how has it been "proven" to not occlude blood, have such a low first time application success rate or cause bad tissue damage? Did you watch the video? It is applied exactly the same at a CAT and the actual constriction band inside the CAT is the same 1. Bottom line, use whatever you trust but I consider this a viable option for those who have resisted carrying a TQ because they are too bulky.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose sorry, what I meant to say was that there hasn’t been a single study on these that show them as being effective. More harm than good. It’s better to save an extra $20 and buy a CAT 7, a proven tourniquet. To suggest these is just practicing and encouraging bad medicine.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose If you wat to trust a tourniquet that has a 11.8% success rate that was developed by a company who trade marked a company called "TCCC" just to say that it was "TCCC approved" after it did not even come close to passing the CoTCCC standards then go for it but spreading misinformation has the potential to cost lives and is just allowing others to practice bad medicine.
Why spend money on buying one when you can just as easily make one and probably cheaper to.
Because they don't work, it's been studied. Belts and other DIY methods don't get tight enough or hold. Stop being a cheap skate, they're like $20-30 for a CAT, SOF-T, or RAT which are way more legitimate than these.
@FactFinderGeneral wht makes the CAT, SOF-T or RAT "way more legitimate than these"?
@@SurvivalOnPurpose💯. I bought and tested these out as soon as they came out. As easy as a CAT and they work fantastically.
Not trying to be rude, but you obviously have never had to do this. Make shift is utter last resort.
@@bobbie4862 your not being rude, I understand. I was looking at it from the ancestors point of view and how they survived without the stuff that you can just buy now. Still some of the things are very cheaply made and snap under pressure. Your right though. Making should be a last resort to a point. It's always better to have the skills to make just incase.