" I don't care if you buy my product, just buy something " such an awesome attitude to hear from someone in this day and age, we could do with more people who think that way, hats off to you man.
This is an attitude very common amongst medical professionals, where desire to treat patients well, and ensure good patient outcomes is paramount. Speaks to the humility of the professional who has real-life experience.
@@psychodadandjfit3974 yeah no offence to the people who like it but i think there are better options out there, and you shouldnt shrug off the importance of a quality product in a life saving situation
Opachki Ok. So for someone ignorant on the subject just trying to learn, why does the rat tourniquet suck? And what are better options that the average joe will actually carry on them?
@@it_is_finished check out deployedmedicine.com/ and they should be able to provide reasons why they do not recommend it and why they suggest the other ones...
I live in England, not allowed to carry a gun or knife to defend myself. Every day I carry a tourniquet, clotting compound, gloves, gaffer tape and a mouth guard for mouth to mouth.
Ken Morrison well definitely not a gun, but within the legal law of knifes you can carry a knife legally for what ever reason apart from being able to defend yourself, now if someone else had a knife you would be able to use what ever you had in the same league or less then to defend yourself. So if you had a baseball bat,,, because you've just been playing baseball, and was being attacked with a knife you can use it,, but if you had your knife because you have been opening boxes and then got attacked with a baseball bat you couldn't really use your knife and gave the law on your side,, as a rough guide. But yes also good for car accidents and machine accidents,, mind you I would possibly faint if I seen too much blood!!
ifell3 not allowed to carry a locking blade or fixed blade knife so I don't carry a knife at all. I'm a martial artist and I always carry a metal body pen and a small flashlight. Obviously the pen is for writing, taking notes and the flashlight is for seeing in the dark or finding things under cars etc...........
Dan E I would love to move across the pond so I could carry to defend myself and others but my life ( unfortunately ) is here.and getting over there is not that easy.
The RATS is not a good tourniquet and has been tested by a couple of independent groups and has been shown to not completely occlude blood flow confirmed by doppler. Its also no CoTCCC approved at this time due to the issues presented by multiple independent studies. I prefer the CAT T as well and the agency I work at carries them in our jump/trauma kits.
*** have any of those studies been done with children, because I can tell you first hand the CATS are to big for small children. No RATS are not effective for adults, but let’s not leave out our most venerable group
@@andrewcollins207 There are other tourniquet options out there that work on kids, like the SWAT-T. I'll agree with you that the CAT doesn't work on kids, but the RATS not working on an adult doesn't make it the ideal pediatric option.
As a trained medical professional, I agree and I am glad to see this comment. Neither the RATS nor the SWAT-T are effective tourniquets and have been proven ineffective to create the necessary pressures needed to compress a femoral artery. The only ones recommended and approved by the TCCC is the CAT and the SOF-T (I specifically recommend the SOF-T Wide as they have updated it to incorporate features that people preferred on the CAT.
*** late to the party..... but i saved a persons life with a Rats TQ..... it is better than nothing better than improvised TQ and def not as good as sofT and or SamT
John, it’s been a year since this video was produced. I see that the WPS Store doesn’t carry the RAT TQ and a few months ago the CoTCCC updated their TQ recommendations and the RAT was left off the list. Maybe it’s time for an updated video?
Dude that makes the RATS bought the rights to "TCCC" for a couple grand so he could slap "TCCC Approved" on his products. There's no such thing as TCCC Approved only CoTCCC recommended. It's not a matter of being updated, it's a matter of removing the intentional deception. Link for source to follow. www.itstactical.com/medcom/medical/is-the-r-a-t-s-tourniquet-misleading-consumers-with-tccc-approval/#targetText=The%20R.A.T.S.,company%20Tactical%20Combat%20Casualty%20Care.&targetText=I'd%20argue%20many%20others,to%20the%20CoTCCC%20as%20well.
@@alexjones5517 I'm pretty sure it wasnt the creators of the R.A.Ts tourniquet the have rights to TCCC, I think it's the company that made the S.T.A.T Tourniquet.
www.itstactical.com/medcom/medical/is-the-r-a-t-s-tourniquet-misleading-consumers-with-tccc-approval/#targetText=The%20R.A.T.S.,company%20Tactical%20Combat%20Casualty%20Care.&targetText=I'd%20argue%20many%20others,to%20the%20CoTCCC%20as%20well. Check it out. It's oldish, but it still happened. @@fluffyvixen223
I come from a family of 4 boys, and I was the only one to serve, but my youngest brother is a former wild firefighter, dog musher, triathlete, MMA fighter, and advanced EMT. In his experience, "he will always prefer a RATS when he is dealing with a heavy bleed on a kid, woman, or dog, the CATs are really for men." As I am now transitioning to being a scout leader of both cub scouts and boyscouts(as a father of 4) I have gone through and beefed up my emergency kits, and now this is in my go-to first aid kit(it is one of 3 types I carry).
The most important reason to not use a RATS is not mentioned anywhere in the comment section. Due to how skinny it is it will almost absolutely cause permanent nerve damage. My instructor demoed one and he lost feeling in his forearm and hand for almost 2 weeks and that was just a short demo.
Well, the guest -- the creator of this RATS tourniquet actually dealt with the issue of using a very narrow tourniquet -- he spoke about how circumferential wrapping would build width, as each subsequent wrap added width above or below previous wraps . . . but, in an emergency are people with only basic training going to remember to build width as the guest described? So (except for the advantage that a bungees type tourniquet will sometimes provide) I don't see why the creator of this RATS tourniquet did not simply make the band wider. I don't get that.
John I've kept RATs or CATs in all my vehicles and on my gear, but in street clothes I didn't know how too carry one. I saw your video on how you carry your RATs wrapped around your waist and Ive carried that way daily ever since. Great tip brotha, I love it!
I am not sure that "a pillar of survival" is the appropriate phrase. I mean, of course being medically trained enhances survival, but when survival techniques and equipment are being promoted by people who also promote guns, perhaps, the biggest killer of youth in America, guns (not mentally ill people, not disgruntled employees, not haters but guns), well when a survival technique/equipment is promoted by people who are, as one commenter but it here, are in favour of learning how to "make holes" . . . well, the promotion of survival techniques and equipment by such folks comes across as disingenuous and contradictory.
Great video. I know that it was running long and that for TH-cam attention span sake that it may not have had the engagement near the end. But, for the people who need to know, who want to know, this format is awesome. Bringing real life experience and conversation into the mix. Being "at the table" really makes it an awesome experience. I learned a lot, and it was a good way to spend 20 minutes. Thanks for your work.
Thank you I have seen some rat tourniquet failures but it may have been improperly applied I always carry a cat but I’m actually sold on this I never thought about applying one to a kid or anything I mean this really made me realize how negligent I have been so as previously stated thank you
Yes, that was the one thing that I was sold on . . . . I think, generally, the RATS is an inferior product compared to the CAT of SOFT-T Wide tourniquets . . . but I was struck by how the RATS might be a good choice for really small adults or children. I am a newly trained in tourniquet use and I already carry a CBC Classic Baby Tourniquet, in addition to CAT tourniquets. I think the CBC Classic is better suited for use with small children/infants. So . . . that leaves me wondering why, even though the RATS might be better suited to children why I would carry it, given that it is not, in the opinion of the professional world, not a better tourniquet than a CAT or SOFT-T Wide. I also noted the benefit of the bungee style to self adjust as the patient's adrenaline increased or decreased . . . but is that reason enough to carry the RATS in place of the widely certified CATS or SOFT-T Wide tourniquets?
Thanks for the video! NOTE! A very very good friend of mine is an ER doctor here in the states! Also I am an EMT here! The teaching here is not to go as high on the arm or leg as possible like in combat. Here it is recommended to go 2-3 inches above the trauma point. The theory behind that is there is no reason to loose the entire lim when maybe just the hand is affected. Just a little something maybe for you all to do a little more research on. Not that your way is wrong and my way is rite just that there is a little bit different being in the states versus in country! Once again thanks for all your videos!!
I had to use a tourniquet on a lady at work. Her legs were nearly cut off, when she was pinned between two cars, and had severe arterial bleeding. I wrap my tourniquet around my left ankle so I always have it. I'll pick up the RAT because it'll be a little better for my little ones and ease of carry. Great video!!!
@@artur4390 so, fucking what the point is to live, not "worry" about tissue damage. I have heard people say they had to use something like their shoe laces, at the end of the day, are you more worried about a little tissue damage or living?
Holy Chit! That's our tourniquet! John and Doc T touched our TQ! Just need to teach John the finger hole, kevlar, and aluminum windlass is Recon's. Great video guys. Thank you for your service and what it cost you. (Disclaimer we are NOT associated with CAT at all). God Bless.
Thank you gentlemen for your service and your sacrifice. These videos keep me out of my head. Even my psychiatrist doesn't go in there I'm in Shelby Montana. You can't get nothing here. The pawn shop occasionally I got a kick out of it when he said hey. That is what I tell people. To get my attention. You wouldn't know to look at me once upon a time. I was a little bigger. I was Security in a brothel. I also was a bouncer in a bar were people pretty much behaved themselves I didn't work the door. I just sat there and nursed a beer. And I'll only say it once. I don't repeat myself.
It is the most comfortable edc item I have. I never leave without it. Working in manufacturing and having a six year old, I see this as critical equipment.
Smart guys right here. Awesome tourniquet. I've bought quite a few things that you've recommended John and I'm glad to know you just don't recommend stuff because it's popular or cool but that you use it and stand by it.
Hold up a sec. I haven't smoked weed in about 20 years and I feel fine.....case in point I haven't felt compelled to lick any windows in at least 2 days.....:P
@@justsomenerd8925 yo nerd your're not helping to make a difference, you really need more than just lame insults to prove a point, any logical reasoning to help your argument?
@@zasdfzasdf4279 the shitty asshole christ guy you speak of, is just your imaginary friend. he can not compel anyone to do anything, magic does not work, and neither does faith, as a matter of fact , faith kills.
The RATS Tourniquet might be able to stop a bleed and could potentially save a life (Maybe) BUT because it's so thin it bites into the soft tissues way too much and increases the chances of nerve damage and losing the limb. (And is MUCH more painful) I also noticed "Doc T" mentioned a few times the potential to use this on children. Children have soft tissue that are far more vulnerable than an adult! The Swat-T Tourniquet (Which is much wider, and can still be applied to a child with tiny limbs) is a much better and much safer option. And for adults the Gen 7 CAT Tourniquet from NAR and the SOF-T Tourniquet are both MUCH better, MUCH safer, and MUCH more reliable options.
I agree. But, I want to point out that the guest did describe how subsequent wraps of the RATS tourniquet could be used to create more width above and below the initial wrap. My question is, will highly agitated lightly trained members of the general or would a seriously insured person think to create that additional width with subsequent wraps. As well, just from the way-cool dude, gun-totting tone of the video, host and guest, I suspect the RATS is not geared towards the general public . . . I found that tone in the video to be off-putting, unattractive . . . and given that, as one commenter said, gun folks love learning how to "make holes" the entire "everyone should learn to save a life" theme seemed a bit disingenuous or contradictory.
I introduced the rats to a group at The National Ski Patrol at our yearly refresher and they were blown away. I'm hoping to have these implemented and approved nation wide by 2020. These things rock
@@andrewcollins207 Pediatric PTs with limb circumfrence smaller than CAT have insufficent bp to warrant TQ use; direct pressure is all that is needed due to physiological differences, NOT a RATs "tq"
I really like the first few minutes of this video. I feel like the message of "When seconds count the cops are just minutes away" has been well heard by a lot of people in the gun world, but it's important to note that you can replace "cops" in that sentence with "the ambulance"
When you first recommended these I was hesitant because I have never seen them before. After much research and you endorsing them again I just bought a few to keep on me and put in different bags
I saw Travis just week before last at the ‘19 Indy NRA Show, recognizable from the micro trauma kit review. So on the last day I thought it best to attend a seminar “Medical Mindset”. Sure enough... there’s Travis who’s doing the seminar. It was an excellent well done seminar. He’s inspired me to carry an EDC trauma kit as well as attend his training. I’m glad to see u have him in your channel!
A Lynx Defense ankle medical kit, is a great way to carry an IFAK. I carry a CAT tourniquet, 1 - retractable razor knife, 2 - 50g Quik Clot bandages, 2 pair of nitrile gloves in a ziplock bag, 6 - 3" x 9" petrolatum bandages for use as chest seals, and a credit card wrapped with duct tape. I plan on replacing the retractable knife with some Raptor shears when I can work it into the budget. It's comfortable, well built, and also made in the USA.
Whether you carry a RATs tourniquet or a certified one like SOF T or CAT, it would be smart to carry some vented chest seals as well. The tourniquets are great in military application when body armor is protecting the chest. In a civilian situation, chest wounds are far more likely.
One of the first training classes i took was a TCCC-type class for civilians, taught by a retired SF medic, BEFORE i took anymore gun training. If you wanna learn to make holes, you should also know how to fix them. Doesn't hurt to learn from guys who have done it to know what works in real life. Excellent video as always, WP. Cheers.
But why do you want to learn to "make holes". And, if you are going to talk about learning to kill people, please have the courage of your convictions and do not use a euphemism to refer to shooting someone. Gosh, "making holes" indeed.
Physicians are actually against using tourniquets. They are more likely stick their finger in the holes and elevate the wound and using hemostats than add a tourniquet. They have the same mentality as they did in the vietnam war.
@@alphabears6342 if you think they’re against tourniquets, you should ask them how they feel about someone with minimal medical training trying to clamp an artery from the inside. Also, in combat, you can’t just be sitting there with your hands in someone else’s GSW, shrapnel wound, or amputation, you have to cut off the blood flow quickly and get back in the fight. That’s where the saying “there’s no first aid in a gunfight” comes from. Tourniquets save lives, period.
@@snowshark156 they were against it for a long time as they have been trained under normal conditions. In some hospitals, it's even a practice to use tourniquets as a last result. I am not sure whether it's still the same today but few years ago, that would have been the case.
It's very true, I've said to my wife "John said this is the one to buy" more than a few times. Thanks a ton. Maybe link the video on how to wear it as well that was way back and many of the new subs probably haven't seen.
Corey Adcock CATS are simple to carry you just put it in your back pocket like a spare magazine. I get so tired of hearing everyone whine about how hard it is to carry a CATS, it's not. As for the RATS it's not even TCCC certified they put it on there, but they're lying because it's not. If you go down range in the military you cannot use a RATS tourniquet you can't but not authorized and there's a reason because they have to reapply to a certain way and they had to be applied perfectly in order to work and even then they don't always work. So something is better than nothing but you're basing your whole point on carrying something just because it's more comfortable. Can the RATS work, yes if perfectly applied in a perfect situation. If you just hastily put it on under duress or even have to put it on yourself 9 out of 10 it's not going to work effectively as advertised. Now the CATS will work 100% of the time regardless if you're applying it or if you're applying it to someone else it's basically idiot-proof. Everybody keeps using their new excuse or I should say Celtic children and elderly okay let's look at small children were talking 5 years of age and under and we're dealing with the elderly let's look at the statistics Nationwide how many of those people have been shot or in a serious accident where a tourniquet was required so much so that it made national headline news or even local news. It doesn't happen here in the United States once in a blue moon if you're wearing a belt there's your tourniquet for your kid cuz it doesn't take a lot of pressure to stop the bleeding on a elderly person or a kid not only that you got a shoelace. I've trained with the rats it's a pain in the butt to get that thing on properly so that it stops blood flow.
I personally have used both the CAT and RATs as a medic... I think both are great and work very well. The RATs is newer and not used much by those on the healthcare industry. The CAT has been battle tested with our military in the field and saves lives. I would say what every you choose to carry make sure you practice using regularly and you should be fine.
@@nicholasdesnoyer8505 you're either a liar or a complete idiot. RATS is a pile of shit, and any person who is trained with this type of gear would know that.
@@joelbenoitthewanderingbiso4976 literally the entire medical community has proven the rats tourniquet is fucking garbage, plus the creator made a business that sounds like an official medical body so he could trick people into thinking it was approved by them.
once again, great guest, great information. I enjoyed hearing the background from the the developer himself about the device. Thank you. side note to anyone wondering- DO NOT BUY THE KNOCKOFFS. I was curious and tempted by the cheap price so I bought one. the elastic is very very inferior and since it is the heart of the system it makes them not worth it
Fantastic video as usual - kudos to you both. I've just put in an order for two of them, one for my hunting pack and one for the commuter car. Already carry the CATS, but this one looks like it will work for a much wider range of application for sure. Thanks again.
Yes, I think the RATS may lend itself to a wider range of applications . . . but my suspicion is that it is no where near the best at any one of those application. I think the CAT and SOFT-T Wide are better suited for adults and many children . . . and I think there are better tounriquets, such as the CBC Classic Baby tourniquet for use with small children/infants. But, the more options the merrier yes . . . unless it all gets confusing.
John thanks for the video and putting it out there that the rats isn't a pos. I have quite a few of them, and carry one on me every day. Keep doing what your doing man.
Amazing video. My daughter carries her own wipes, hand sanitizer, water bottle and other whatnots a 5 may need. I have never considered giving her a first aid kit even if she can’t use it herself. Also, I have received a lot of first aid training in the Navy but never heard of compensative shocks. I really appreciate your videos.
So it was designed in Afghanistan yet I hear people talking about how they were designed for low profile stuff in other countries where TQ's wouldn't make it out of the airport without you being labeled as an American? Seems as though a lot of people pump out bad information on this product, but I'm glad this video has been made to clear the air. It was much needed.
I just emailed about this after rewatching your EDC video and saw "no longer recommend" great video with great info. I struggle to carry my CAT everyday looks like a RATS purchase is needed.
Thanks for making it 6 inches longer. I carry it around my waist and it was just a little to small for most of my students. The extra 6 inches will help big time. Now everyone can edc it
I find the gun-totting, way-cool dude tone to be off-putting. I learned a bit from the video but I cringed a lot . . . especially when the host did his 'accidentally' side arm reveal. I also cringed at some of the comments about how people who "learn to make holes' should learn to fix them. I find that contradictory and a bit disingenuous.
Thanks for this video. I was just out walking the dog thinking I need to add a tourniquet to go with my pre-package trauma kit that doesn't have one. I watched your video, then I went to the Amazon link and ordered it.
Absolutely the most informative and comprehensive video I’ve watched on tourniquets. I am definitely picking up several of these. Thank “Dot T” for your service. You all service members are the real heroes! And yes John lovell you get kudos too!
I'm a 11B veteran and my wife is a RN, and we carry medical gear everywhere we go. We have had to re-fill our medical gear multiple times, because we have ran into so many situations that people needed emergency medical help, such as car/motorcycle crashes, gun shot wounds, fall accidents, and many more. I still carry a gun everywhere and train, but I havent needed to use it as much as my medical gear/skills.
This guy honestly seems like he isn't too caught up on modern techniques. I am pretty sure the rule now is that applying a TQ on the lower extremities will not break bones and will still occlude blood flow.
Oh I see you served in combat and know the most effective ways to stop people from dying, this is years of research and death, and now in fact anyone who thinks tourniquet is old science is living from a old generation.
@@Dr.MantisTobogganMD What are you talking about and who are you talking to? If you're talking to me I think you misread my comment. The guys at RATS are misleading their customers as stated here- www.itstactical.com/medcom/medical/is-the-r-a-t-s-tourniquet-misleading-consumers-with-tccc-approval/ The RATS is not approved by TCCC. Also I have been through several TCCC courses and if I remember right now days they teach in non-combat applications you can to apply a TQ on lower extremities too, the double bone problem is a myth. In care under fire go high and tight always though.
Oh how interesting. I recently bought a first aid kit and was disappointed to find the included tourniquet was not similar to the black one-handed tourniquet and was instead a wrap-and-tuck one. I thought the one-handed one would be better as it's easier to self-apply if you don't have full use of both hands, but it never occurred to me that it had some serious disadvantages in regards to how tight it can get or how it can be applied. So I guess I should keep the wrap-and-tuck in my kit after all. Thank you for the information.
John could you revisit the tourniquet discussion? Know all of these vids are a snapshot in time. Wit the CoTCCC releasing their 2019 recommendations do you still rock these?
Great video live learning how not only defend myself but also that fixing the broken is important as well. Also glad in your inner voice you are a normal guy when I watch the videos I see you in a super hero costume lol
Poet: well done. Just ordered 6 Gen 2 RAT. 2 for each car and 2 for the range bag. Thanks for your efforts and for making me think about this. Blessings
I plan on becoming a rural physician and already have medicore training I'm only a certified medical assistant and a Phlebotomist. I own a level 4 ceramic plates and regularly keep it in my truck just incase which I bought when I worked executive protection and PSD during my 20's now in my mid 30's medical is fun! I actually perfer packing a wound and I own one cat tourniquet. I can carry more roll gauge then have a bunch of cat tourniquets for an active shooter situation. I wouldn't mind owning a few of these
I'm a ten year medic with experience in the private sector as well as local government fire service. The military isn't the only one that operates on a tight budget for tools. This would have given so many of the patients I've ran on an extra chance just due to size availability. God bless you DOC T.
I had to give you a thumbs down just for the 'god bless you Doc-t" comment. On the other hand, I can certainly agree with what the creator of the tourniquet said, even if you don't buy the RATS tourniquet "just buy something" . . . he was of course trying to create the sense that he is only interested in saving lives . . . who am I to doubt that . . . but, in any case, I am taking Kennth Carnie's comment and turning it around a bit to say, yes, if you have only a limited budget or space at least buy a RATS tourniquet, but if you have the budget and the space please buy a legitimately tested (third party testing) tourniquet like the CAT or SOFT -T Wide.
I do carry this everyday in an ankle kit. With a decompression needle, gloves, sheers, Israel bandage, gloves, quick clot, and gauze. All on my ankle, it's a small kit. But would be effective too stop the bleed.
" I don't care if you buy my product, just buy something " such an awesome attitude to hear from someone in this day and age, we could do with more people who think that way, hats off to you man.
This is an attitude very common amongst medical professionals, where desire to treat patients well, and ensure good patient outcomes is paramount. Speaks to the humility of the professional who has real-life experience.
Which is great because RATs sucks. Big time.
@@psychodadandjfit3974 yeah no offence to the people who like it but i think there are better options out there, and you shouldnt shrug off the importance of a quality product in a life saving situation
Opachki
Ok. So for someone ignorant on the subject just trying to learn, why does the rat tourniquet suck? And what are better options that the average joe will actually carry on them?
@@it_is_finished check out deployedmedicine.com/ and they should be able to provide reasons why they do not recommend it and why they suggest the other ones...
I love how the RATs is small and compact, so it takes up minimal space in my trash can.
Ready man guy like a tree truck
“Like me”
Totally went over his head 😂
Not a Real Tourniquet. Evidence doesn't support using this over others that are CoTCCC Recommended.
I live in England, not allowed to carry a gun or knife to defend myself. Every day I carry a tourniquet, clotting compound, gloves, gaffer tape and a mouth guard for mouth to mouth.
Ken Morrison move to the land of freedom and add a gun to that edc.
Ken Morrison well definitely not a gun, but within the legal law of knifes you can carry a knife legally for what ever reason apart from being able to defend yourself, now if someone else had a knife you would be able to use what ever you had in the same league or less then to defend yourself. So if you had a baseball bat,,, because you've just been playing baseball, and was being attacked with a knife you can use it,, but if you had your knife because you have been opening boxes and then got attacked with a baseball bat you couldn't really use your knife and gave the law on your side,, as a rough guide. But yes also good for car accidents and machine accidents,, mind you I would possibly faint if I seen too much blood!!
ifell3 not allowed to carry a locking blade or fixed blade knife so I don't carry a knife at all. I'm a martial artist and I always carry a metal body pen and a small flashlight. Obviously the pen is for writing, taking notes and the flashlight is for seeing in the dark or finding things under cars etc...........
Dan E I would love to move across the pond so I could carry to defend myself and others but my life ( unfortunately ) is here.and getting over there is not that easy.
@@kenmorrison1725 non-locking blades are quite dangerous to the user IMO.
Just used this video to share with my kids while teaching Home Defense in our homeschool unit!!! Thank you
"Yea he's like me..."
Said it twice. Went right over his head.
10:30 This little girl could've died because of one of my mistakes -Doc T
Cool - John Lovell
The RATS is not a good tourniquet and has been tested by a couple of independent groups and has been shown to not completely occlude blood flow confirmed by doppler. Its also no CoTCCC approved at this time due to the issues presented by multiple independent studies. I prefer the CAT T as well and the agency I work at carries them in our jump/trauma kits.
*** have any of those studies been done with children, because I can tell you first hand the CATS are to big for small children. No RATS are not effective for adults, but let’s not leave out our most venerable group
@@andrewcollins207 There are other tourniquet options out there that work on kids, like the SWAT-T. I'll agree with you that the CAT doesn't work on kids, but the RATS not working on an adult doesn't make it the ideal pediatric option.
ya i only carry cat i wont touch this
As a trained medical professional, I agree and I am glad to see this comment. Neither the RATS nor the SWAT-T are effective tourniquets and have been proven ineffective to create the necessary pressures needed to compress a femoral artery. The only ones recommended and approved by the TCCC is the CAT and the SOF-T (I specifically recommend the SOF-T Wide as they have updated it to incorporate features that people preferred on the CAT.
*** late to the party..... but i saved a persons life with a Rats TQ..... it is better than nothing better than improvised TQ and def not as good as sofT and or SamT
"He's like me.." Oh cmon now you're putting on a show man.
Great vid and great respect for Doc T.
You guys rock!
John, it’s been a year since this video was produced. I see that the WPS Store doesn’t carry the RAT TQ and a few months ago the CoTCCC updated their TQ recommendations and the RAT was left off the list.
Maybe it’s time for an updated video?
Dude that makes the RATS bought the rights to "TCCC" for a couple grand so he could slap "TCCC Approved" on his products. There's no such thing as TCCC Approved only CoTCCC recommended. It's not a matter of being updated, it's a matter of removing the intentional deception. Link for source to follow.
www.itstactical.com/medcom/medical/is-the-r-a-t-s-tourniquet-misleading-consumers-with-tccc-approval/#targetText=The%20R.A.T.S.,company%20Tactical%20Combat%20Casualty%20Care.&targetText=I'd%20argue%20many%20others,to%20the%20CoTCCC%20as%20well.
@@alexjones5517 I'm pretty sure it wasnt the creators of the R.A.Ts tourniquet the have rights to TCCC, I think it's the company that made the S.T.A.T Tourniquet.
www.itstactical.com/medcom/medical/is-the-r-a-t-s-tourniquet-misleading-consumers-with-tccc-approval/#targetText=The%20R.A.T.S.,company%20Tactical%20Combat%20Casualty%20Care.&targetText=I'd%20argue%20many%20others,to%20the%20CoTCCC%20as%20well.
Check it out. It's oldish, but it still happened.
@@fluffyvixen223
John, what IS the latest on recommended tourniquets? What are you packing in you ankle med kit in 2020?
JQ Machgunner invest in a CAT or Swat T TQ and train on it.
I come from a family of 4 boys, and I was the only one to serve, but my youngest brother is a former wild firefighter, dog musher, triathlete, MMA fighter, and advanced EMT. In his experience, "he will always prefer a RATS when he is dealing with a heavy bleed on a kid, woman, or dog, the CATs are really for men." As I am now transitioning to being a scout leader of both cub scouts and boyscouts(as a father of 4) I have gone through and beefed up my emergency kits, and now this is in my go-to first aid kit(it is one of 3 types I carry).
The most important reason to not use a RATS is not mentioned anywhere in the comment section. Due to how skinny it is it will almost absolutely cause permanent nerve damage. My instructor demoed one and he lost feeling in his forearm and hand for almost 2 weeks and that was just a short demo.
Well, the guest -- the creator of this RATS tourniquet actually dealt with the issue of using a very narrow tourniquet -- he spoke about how circumferential wrapping would build width, as each subsequent wrap added width above or below previous wraps . . . but, in an emergency are people with only basic training going to remember to build width as the guest described? So (except for the advantage that a bungees type tourniquet will sometimes provide) I don't see why the creator of this RATS tourniquet did not simply make the band wider. I don't get that.
It’s garbage.
John I've kept RATs or CATs in all my vehicles and on my gear, but in street clothes I didn't know how too carry one. I saw your video on how you carry your RATs wrapped around your waist and Ive carried that way daily ever since. Great tip brotha, I love it!
Just got a pair in the mail and watching this to make sure I use it properly. Thank YOU!
Glad you found Readyman and Doc T. Basic Emergency Medical care needs to be discussed and trained more often. It's a pillar of Survival.
I am not sure that "a pillar of survival" is the appropriate phrase. I mean, of course being medically trained enhances survival, but when survival techniques and equipment are being promoted by people who also promote guns, perhaps, the biggest killer of youth in America, guns (not mentally ill people, not disgruntled employees, not haters but guns), well when a survival technique/equipment is promoted by people who are, as one commenter but it here, are in favour of learning how to "make holes" . . . well, the promotion of survival techniques and equipment by such folks comes across as disingenuous and contradictory.
Great video. I know that it was running long and that for TH-cam attention span sake that it may not have had the engagement near the end. But, for the people who need to know, who want to know, this format is awesome. Bringing real life experience and conversation into the mix. Being "at the table" really makes it an awesome experience. I learned a lot, and it was a good way to spend 20 minutes. Thanks for your work.
Before starting my chainsaw I always go ahead and apply four tourniquets, I've run into some troubles in the past.
If you've had past troubles then you probably only likely need 3 tourniquets 🤔
Chris holy shit
Thank you I have seen some rat tourniquet failures but it may have been improperly applied I always carry a cat but I’m actually sold on this I never thought about applying one to a kid or anything I mean this really made me realize how negligent I have been so as previously stated thank you
Yes, that was the one thing that I was sold on . . . . I think, generally, the RATS is an inferior product compared to the CAT of SOFT-T Wide tourniquets . . . but I was struck by how the RATS might be a good choice for really small adults or children. I am a newly trained in tourniquet use and I already carry a CBC Classic Baby Tourniquet, in addition to CAT tourniquets. I think the CBC Classic is better suited for use with small children/infants. So . . . that leaves me wondering why, even though the RATS might be better suited to children why I would carry it, given that it is not, in the opinion of the professional world, not a better tourniquet than a CAT or SOFT-T Wide. I also noted the benefit of the bungee style to self adjust as the patient's adrenaline increased or decreased . . . but is that reason enough to carry the RATS in place of the widely certified CATS or SOFT-T Wide tourniquets?
Thanks for the video! NOTE! A very very good friend of mine is an ER doctor here in the states! Also I am an EMT here! The teaching here is not to go as high on the arm or leg as possible like in combat. Here it is recommended to go 2-3 inches above the trauma point. The theory behind that is there is no reason to loose the entire lim when maybe just the hand is affected. Just a little something maybe for you all to do a little more research on. Not that your way is wrong and my way is rite just that there is a little bit different being in the states versus in country! Once again thanks for all your videos!!
Jason Mortimer tq use will not cause a loss of limb. It’s just to allow blood flow to the unaffected areas.
I had to use a tourniquet on a lady at work. Her legs were nearly cut off, when she was pinned between two cars, and had severe arterial bleeding. I wrap my tourniquet around my left ankle so I always have it. I'll pick up the RAT because it'll be a little better for my little ones and ease of carry. Great video!!!
@Tacticool Memes not with young kids very well. You can use them, but they're usually harder to use. For anything else, definitely CAT or SOFT
@@nikanor8152 the swatt is good for children
@@artur4390 yup, so is usually RATS
@@nikanor8152 But the RATS causes much more tissue damage
@@artur4390 so, fucking what the point is to live, not "worry" about tissue damage.
I have heard people say they had to use something like their shoe laces, at the end of the day, are you more worried about a little tissue damage or living?
Holy Chit! That's our tourniquet! John and Doc T touched our TQ! Just need to teach John the finger hole, kevlar, and aluminum windlass is Recon's. Great video guys. Thank you for your service and what it cost you. (Disclaimer we are NOT associated with CAT at all). God Bless.
Thank you gentlemen for your service and your sacrifice. These videos keep me out of my head. Even my psychiatrist doesn't go in there I'm in Shelby Montana. You can't get nothing here. The pawn shop occasionally I got a kick out of it when he said hey. That is what I tell people. To get my attention. You wouldn't know to look at me once upon a time. I was a little bigger. I was Security in a brothel. I also was a bouncer in a bar were people pretty much behaved themselves I didn't work the door. I just sat there and nursed a beer. And I'll only say it once. I don't repeat myself.
I EDC a tourniquet but after hearing Doc T, I'm getting the RATs. Thanks!
It is the most comfortable edc item I have. I never leave without it. Working in manufacturing and having a six year old, I see this as critical equipment.
Smart guys right here. Awesome tourniquet. I've bought quite a few things that you've recommended John and I'm glad to know you just don't recommend stuff because it's popular or cool but that you use it and stand by it.
Hold up a sec. I haven't smoked weed in about 20 years and I feel fine.....case in point I haven't felt compelled to lick any windows in at least 2 days.....:P
I smoke and I'm not.... nevermind.....
Garbage product made by a piece of shit person, who has to make his own companies to trick people into thinking his product is TCCC approved.
@@justsomenerd8925 yo nerd your're not helping to make a difference, you really need more than just lame insults to prove a point, any logical reasoning to help your argument?
@@zasdfzasdf4279 the shitty asshole christ guy you speak of, is just your imaginary friend. he can not compel anyone to do anything, magic does not work, and neither does faith, as a matter of fact , faith kills.
The RATS Tourniquet might be able to stop a bleed and could potentially save a life (Maybe)
BUT because it's so thin it bites into the soft tissues way too much and increases the chances of nerve damage and losing the limb. (And is MUCH more painful)
I also noticed "Doc T" mentioned a few times the potential to use this on children. Children have soft tissue that are far more vulnerable than an adult!
The Swat-T Tourniquet (Which is much wider, and can still be applied to a child with tiny limbs) is a much better and much safer option.
And for adults the Gen 7 CAT Tourniquet from NAR and the SOF-T Tourniquet are both MUCH better, MUCH safer, and MUCH more reliable options.
If you listened to the video properly, you would've heard that he addressed the width issue at 17:30.
I agree. But, I want to point out that the guest did describe how subsequent wraps of the RATS tourniquet could be used to create more width above and below the initial wrap. My question is, will highly agitated lightly trained members of the general or would a seriously insured person think to create that additional width with subsequent wraps. As well, just from the way-cool dude, gun-totting tone of the video, host and guest, I suspect the RATS is not geared towards the general public . . . I found that tone in the video to be off-putting, unattractive . . . and given that, as one commenter said, gun folks love learning how to "make holes" the entire "everyone should learn to save a life" theme seemed a bit disingenuous or contradictory.
thanks! i learned alot and want to learn more.
I introduced the rats to a group at The National Ski Patrol at our yearly refresher and they were blown away. I'm hoping to have these implemented and approved nation wide by 2020. These things rock
That's the best commercial I've ever seen. I'm going to pick up a bunch of these
I need one for kids and animals. This is perfect.
As much as the product is trash (as proven by its inability to actually occlude the femoral artery), I love this guy's attitude.
Doc literally says the CAT works great on you and me size. For kids not so much. So we came up with this for use on kids
@@andrewcollins207 Pediatric PTs with limb circumfrence smaller than CAT have insufficent bp to warrant TQ use; direct pressure is all that is needed due to physiological differences, NOT a RATs "tq"
Andrew Collins no TQ’s work on kids. And if it doesn’t then use a pressure bandage or a swat-t
ya i only carry cat
I would carry both a CAT and a RATS. I still think that the CAT is better, but now I think that the RATS is a great solution for kids and animals.
I really like the first few minutes of this video. I feel like the message of "When seconds count the cops are just minutes away" has been well heard by a lot of people in the gun world, but it's important to note that you can replace "cops" in that sentence with "the ambulance"
When you first recommended these I was hesitant because I have never seen them before. After much research and you endorsing them again I just bought a few to keep on me and put in different bags
I saw Travis just week before last at the ‘19 Indy NRA Show, recognizable from the micro trauma kit review.
So on the last day I thought it best to attend a seminar “Medical Mindset”. Sure enough... there’s Travis who’s doing the seminar. It was an excellent well done seminar. He’s inspired me to carry an EDC trauma kit as well as attend his training. I’m glad to see u have him in your channel!
A Lynx Defense ankle medical kit, is a great way to carry an IFAK. I carry a CAT tourniquet, 1 - retractable razor knife, 2 - 50g Quik Clot bandages, 2 pair of nitrile gloves in a ziplock bag, 6 - 3" x 9" petrolatum bandages for use as chest seals, and a credit card wrapped with duct tape. I plan on replacing the retractable knife with some Raptor shears when I can work it into the budget. It's comfortable, well built, and also made in the USA.
Check out OneShear instead!
Great points!! We are rolling out some tourniquet training to our church's congregation and my wife and I have taken two high level trauma classes.
this is one of the best channels out there. thanks for all your hard work!
The ultimate warrior was the guy with the arm ties
Rob Sherbon Jr back when wrestling was cool🤣
Rob Sherbon Jr Ultimate Warrior, baby!!!!!
Ultimate Warrior was intense!!
That was the first one I thought of also. Man wrestling was entertaining then.
a lot of them did it back then, I think even Hulk Hogan had them.
I love my RAT's tourniquets. I have them everywhere. My kit, my wifes bags, the cars, everywhere.
Good point about fitting small girth extremities.
Sorry you had to learn in that way. You're a beautiful soul. Thank you for teaching us. Medical is so over looked.
What an Awesome guy. check out the whole attitude man that`s why this fella has got in two decades with SF fricken awesome
Thanks fellas
Whether you carry a RATs tourniquet or a certified one like SOF T or CAT, it would be smart to carry some vented chest seals as well. The tourniquets are great in military application when body armor is protecting the chest. In a civilian situation, chest wounds are far more likely.
One of the first training classes i took was a TCCC-type class for civilians, taught by a retired SF medic, BEFORE i took anymore gun training. If you wanna learn to make holes, you should also know how to fix them. Doesn't hurt to learn from guys who have done it to know what works in real life. Excellent video as always, WP. Cheers.
But why do you want to learn to "make holes". And, if you are going to talk about learning to kill people, please have the courage of your convictions and do not use a euphemism to refer to shooting someone. Gosh, "making holes" indeed.
@@JamesGillis-m2i Stfu dork. This is over 4 years old.
T: you should have seen the guy. He was a body builder type, just huge
John: yeah I know he’s just like me
😂😂
Just bought 5, thanks!
Hey "G.I.", just ordered two after watching this vid...they will go into my kits along my CAT's .....well done and great info!
Wasted money that could cost a life.
Just a short note to say that I'll buy a couple. AND, thank you both for your service.
Medic not actually a physician...he’s a “Doc”. That said his tourniquet is an improvement over the rubber tubing that it evolved from.
Physicians are actually against using tourniquets. They are more likely stick their finger in the holes and elevate the wound and using hemostats than add a tourniquet. They have the same mentality as they did in the vietnam war.
@@alphabears6342 if you think they’re against tourniquets, you should ask them how they feel about someone with minimal medical training trying to clamp an artery from the inside. Also, in combat, you can’t just be sitting there with your hands in someone else’s GSW, shrapnel wound, or amputation, you have to cut off the blood flow quickly and get back in the fight. That’s where the saying “there’s no first aid in a gunfight” comes from. Tourniquets save lives, period.
@@snowshark156 they were against it for a long time as they have been trained under normal conditions. In some hospitals, it's even a practice to use tourniquets as a last result. I am not sure whether it's still the same today but few years ago, that would have been the case.
I am so buying these! Loved the demo, couldn't be easier. No stupid baton to break or whack you when it spins.
Please have Travis Hall on the vid again!
I carry a RATs everyday..I trust it! Great video fellas
I just became a distributor for RATS. Great piece of gear.
5:13 yeah hes like me...John said it twice and Doc T just kept talking. John even smirked like...how did you not notice ha!
I remember you mentioning these a while back during the pocket dump of your Walmart jeans. Great stuff! Thanks guys!
It's very true, I've said to my wife "John said this is the one to buy" more than a few times. Thanks a ton.
Maybe link the video on how to wear it as well that was way back and many of the new subs probably haven't seen.
Corey Adcock CATS are simple to carry you just put it in your back pocket like a spare magazine. I get so tired of hearing everyone whine about how hard it is to carry a CATS, it's not. As for the RATS it's not even TCCC certified they put it on there, but they're lying because it's not. If you go down range in the military you cannot use a RATS tourniquet you can't but not authorized and there's a reason because they have to reapply to a certain way and they had to be applied perfectly in order to work and even then they don't always work. So something is better than nothing but you're basing your whole point on carrying something just because it's more comfortable. Can the RATS work, yes if perfectly applied in a perfect situation. If you just hastily put it on under duress or even have to put it on yourself 9 out of 10 it's not going to work effectively as advertised. Now the CATS will work 100% of the time regardless if you're applying it or if you're applying it to someone else it's basically idiot-proof. Everybody keeps using their new excuse or I should say Celtic children and elderly okay let's look at small children were talking 5 years of age and under and we're dealing with the elderly let's look at the statistics Nationwide how many of those people have been shot or in a serious accident where a tourniquet was required so much so that it made national headline news or even local news. It doesn't happen here in the United States once in a blue moon if you're wearing a belt there's your tourniquet for your kid cuz it doesn't take a lot of pressure to stop the bleeding on a elderly person or a kid not only that you got a shoelace. I've trained with the rats it's a pain in the butt to get that thing on properly so that it stops blood flow.
I personally have used both the CAT and RATs as a medic... I think both are great and work very well. The RATs is newer and not used much by those on the healthcare industry. The CAT has been battle tested with our military in the field and saves lives. I would say what every you choose to carry make sure you practice using regularly and you should be fine.
@@nicholasdesnoyer8505 you're either a liar or a complete idiot. RATS is a pile of shit, and any person who is trained with this type of gear would know that.
@@justsomenerd8925 prove it!
@@joelbenoitthewanderingbiso4976 literally the entire medical community has proven the rats tourniquet is fucking garbage, plus the creator made a business that sounds like an official medical body so he could trick people into thinking it was approved by them.
I'm currently in Africa, and I see the arm sizes of these children. Sold. Thank you #JohnLovell and DocT.
once again, great guest, great information. I enjoyed hearing the background from the the developer himself about the device. Thank you.
side note to anyone wondering- DO NOT BUY THE KNOCKOFFS. I was curious and tempted by the cheap price so I bought one. the elastic is very very inferior and since it is the heart of the system it makes them not worth it
Good to see your face Doc T
Fantastic video as usual - kudos to you both. I've just put in an order for two of them, one for my hunting pack and one for the commuter car. Already carry the CATS, but this one looks like it will work for a much wider range of application for sure. Thanks again.
Yes, I think the RATS may lend itself to a wider range of applications . . . but my suspicion is that it is no where near the best at any one of those application. I think the CAT and SOFT-T Wide are better suited for adults and many children . . . and I think there are better tounriquets, such as the CBC Classic Baby tourniquet for use with small children/infants. But, the more options the merrier yes . . . unless it all gets confusing.
John thanks for the video and putting it out there that the rats isn't a pos. I have quite a few of them, and carry one on me every day. Keep doing what your doing man.
Ordered! Thank you gentlemen.
I used the RATS this week in training and I am impressed.
Amazing video. My daughter carries her own wipes, hand sanitizer, water bottle and other whatnots a 5 may need. I have never considered giving her a first aid kit even if she can’t use it herself. Also, I have received a lot of first aid training in the Navy but never heard of compensative shocks. I really appreciate your videos.
No man!!!! The Ultimate Warrior!
Excellent video. Didn't even feel like 20 minutes.
So it was designed in Afghanistan yet I hear people talking about how they were designed for low profile stuff in other countries where TQ's wouldn't make it out of the airport without you being labeled as an American? Seems as though a lot of people pump out bad information on this product, but I'm glad this video has been made to clear the air. It was much needed.
smoke cannabis Fuck you Junkie.
@@Latinos4Trump you dead yet, or just drunk when typing that.
This is good this is very good I’m get me a tourniquet but I like this to this is very good I like it thank you John and doc
I just emailed about this after rewatching your EDC video and saw "no longer recommend" great video with great info. I struggle to carry my CAT everyday looks like a RATS purchase is needed.
Gotta get it. I have the blue simple ribbon they use in the EMT. Used it to help in a motorcycle accident. The rat looks alot better. Getting it.
Thanks for making it 6 inches longer.
I carry it around my waist and it was just a little to small for most of my students. The extra 6 inches will help big time. Now everyone can edc it
Just got and started carrying my rats, the way you've showed previously works great John!
Thank you Travis.
Have multiple rats TQs. Carry one every day on top of my trauma kit. Great video and I learned from it!
Been carrying one everyday for about a year great piece of kit. Not the only one I have but it is very easy to as EDC.
That may be a great piece of kit carry, it's not a great piece of kit to use
Thank you this is great info. Will take classes and buy tourniquet
Awesome video, good info from guys who actually have done it. Thank you for your service God bless
Green Berets are awesome in my opinion there the best of the best!!!
Wow! Cool video. I'm a vet and a contractor. I need this added t my EDC. Thanks.
Just bought two. Thx for the info.
LOVE THIS GENTLEMAN.... His manner, the content of his posts, his out look on life. Good stuff.
I find the gun-totting, way-cool dude tone to be off-putting. I learned a bit from the video but I cringed a lot . . . especially when the host did his 'accidentally' side arm reveal. I also cringed at some of the comments about how people who "learn to make holes' should learn to fix them. I find that contradictory and a bit disingenuous.
Thanks for this video. I was just out walking the dog thinking I need to add a tourniquet to go with my pre-package trauma kit that doesn't have one. I watched your video, then I went to the Amazon link and ordered it.
have this guy on again please! Maybe tourniquets and med kits for dogs.
Just ordered mine. Thanks for the instructions!
Wrestler was The Ultimate Warrior!
Absolutely the most informative and comprehensive video I’ve watched on tourniquets. I am definitely picking up several of these. Thank “Dot T” for your service. You all service members are the real heroes! And yes John lovell you get kudos too!
I'm a professional driver and the rats 1.0 is a vital part of my edc that rides on my belt daily.
I'm a 11B veteran and my wife is a RN, and we carry medical gear everywhere we go. We have had to re-fill our medical gear multiple times, because we have ran into so many situations that people needed emergency medical help, such as car/motorcycle crashes, gun shot wounds, fall accidents, and many more. I still carry a gun everywhere and train, but I havent needed to use it as much as my medical gear/skills.
I don't see the relevance.
This guy honestly seems like he isn't too caught up on modern techniques. I am pretty sure the rule now is that applying a TQ on the lower extremities will not break bones and will still occlude blood flow.
Oh I see you served in combat and know the most effective ways to stop people from dying,
this is years of research and death, and now in fact anyone who thinks tourniquet is old science is living from a old generation.
@@Dr.MantisTobogganMD What are you talking about and who are you talking to? If you're talking to me I think you misread my comment.
The guys at RATS are misleading their customers as stated here- www.itstactical.com/medcom/medical/is-the-r-a-t-s-tourniquet-misleading-consumers-with-tccc-approval/
The RATS is not approved by TCCC. Also I have been through several TCCC courses and if I remember right now days they teach in non-combat applications you can to apply a TQ on lower extremities too, the double bone problem is a myth. In care under fire go high and tight always though.
Oh how interesting. I recently bought a first aid kit and was disappointed to find the included tourniquet was not similar to the black one-handed tourniquet and was instead a wrap-and-tuck one. I thought the one-handed one would be better as it's easier to self-apply if you don't have full use of both hands, but it never occurred to me that it had some serious disadvantages in regards to how tight it can get or how it can be applied. So I guess I should keep the wrap-and-tuck in my kit after all. Thank you for the information.
John could you revisit the tourniquet discussion? Know all of these vids are a snapshot in time. Wit the CoTCCC releasing their 2019 recommendations do you still rock these?
Great video live learning how not only defend myself but also that fixing the broken is important as well. Also glad in your inner voice you are a normal guy when I watch the videos I see you in a super hero costume lol
Poet: well done. Just ordered 6 Gen 2 RAT. 2 for each car and 2 for the range bag. Thanks for your efforts and for making me think about this. Blessings
I plan on becoming a rural physician and already have medicore training I'm only a certified medical assistant and a Phlebotomist. I own a level 4 ceramic plates and regularly keep it in my truck just incase which I bought when I worked executive protection and PSD during my 20's now in my mid 30's medical is fun! I actually perfer packing a wound and I own one cat tourniquet. I can carry more roll gauge then have a bunch of cat tourniquets for an active shooter situation. I wouldn't mind owning a few of these
lol the ultimate warrior also did the arm band things...jesus i feel so cool knowing that!
I spent over a year in a paramedic program forty years ago. I suspect I probably need a refresher course.
I'm a ten year medic with experience in the private sector as well as local government fire service. The military isn't the only one that operates on a tight budget for tools. This would have given so many of the patients I've ran on an extra chance just due to size availability. God bless you DOC T.
I had to give you a thumbs down just for the 'god bless you Doc-t" comment. On the other hand, I can certainly agree with what the creator of the tourniquet said, even if you don't buy the RATS tourniquet "just buy something" . . . he was of course trying to create the sense that he is only interested in saving lives . . . who am I to doubt that . . . but, in any case, I am taking Kennth Carnie's comment and turning it around a bit to say, yes, if you have only a limited budget or space at least buy a RATS tourniquet, but if you have the budget and the space please buy a legitimately tested (third party testing) tourniquet like the CAT or SOFT -T Wide.
I do carry this everyday in an ankle kit. With a decompression needle, gloves, sheers, Israel bandage, gloves, quick clot, and gauze. All on my ankle, it's a small kit. But would be effective too stop the bleed.
Ultimate warrior!!
Just got the RATS TQ in my ankle holster because of its compact size!