Which one to get? Logitech G923 vs Thrustmaster T300RS
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Had both, not a competition on my eyes. T300 is for people who want to get serious into sim racing on a budget, g29 is for people who aren’t serious enough about the hobby to spend the extra money for a better experience in the long run(not that everyone has to be serious)
Can you win in any wheel as a good driver? Hell yes. Will the extra fidelity from a t300 make a giant difference? Also hell yes.
There. Saved you 8 minutes.
It is g923 tho
@@siwlat8689 the are identical wheels aside from "trueforce"
For people who are serious, they buy dd wheel, moza r5, r9 ora csl dd
@@ligapersada4793 he said "on a budget"
I had no idea if I would like sim racing as a hobby and bought the logi g923 with a nice discount. It was way cheaper than other entry level alternatives. Wasn't willing to spend more at that time, without knowing if it would be collecting dust within a few months. Turned out I quite like it, so maybe I will upgrade somewhere in the future. Until then there's plenty of fun to have. Not everything has to be so black and white guys 😀
I bought a T300RS a year ago after having a G920 for 4 years and it really is an upgrade. The FFB is much faster and smoother and swappable wheel and pedals makes it a great option for everybody.
If you can get the T300RS instead of the G923/29/920 go for it, its a better option.
or u can buy moza or fanatec bundle which will get you a direct drive wheel for a better price than the t300rs
@@STRAWHAT_YSWhat fanatec bundle is going to be cheaper than a T300RS?
@@MyCompAndGadgetHacks u shud check out the bundle its around the same price like the moza r5 bundle and the csl dd 5nm bundle
@@MyCompAndGadgetHacks csl dd 5nm or moza r5
except the moza r5 is for pc only and $100 more expensive .
the fanatech is good if you have an xbox or a pc. it does compare in prices with that g923@@STRAWHAT_YS
Sadly here in south america, Logitech is the only brand that gives us wheels at a reasonable price, Thrustmaster, Fanatec and all that stuff you have to import it yourself making something like the T300RS more than double the price of a G923, no Moza, no Simagic, no anything. Currently im doing ACC SRO esports in my G923 (Heusinkveld pedals tho) so yes, its possible to go decently fast with this wheel
I used to have a g29 and it was fine, but I recently upgraded to the t300 but with the Ferrari 599XX rim, the T-LCM pedals, and the TH8A shifter. Although this costs a bit more than the base package, it makes the t300 a much more compelling package, the pedals are much better, and the rim feels fantastic, and has a wider diameter than the G29. Trueforce is a bit gimmicky except in the Logitech direct drive wheel where the implementation is very effective.
Edit: I realise now that you mentioned some of these points, however the potential for upgrading within the Thrustmaster ecosystem makes it a no-brainer in my opinion.
You have the tlcm on the floor desk setup ?
@@juliensrvnt No, I have them mounted to a wheel stand at the moment, but have just ordered a new rig, the GT Omega Titan.
Thanks for the video! Gotta ask... what kind/brand of shoes are you wearing?
You might as well compare the Moza R5 as well, it's less than $100 more than anywhere you can find the T300RS GT in stock.
For me the T300 RS is the best option. Sure, the feel of the leather and the wide selection of buttons on the Logitech side is very nice but having the ability to change wheels and having other peripherals of the Thrustmaster side is a big plus. I'm happy with my T300 after 1 year with the G29 and felt like an upgrade honestly. Now I have options to upgrade whenever I can from wheels to pedals, and not to mention that I got the T300 (brand new) for around 270 euros, which was a super deal.
c8 and c5 from camus are coming out... let's wait and watch.
It is very likely that these belt wheels will disappear
can i work with xbox or its just playstation?
@@Iamkashae With thrustmaster ??
Base tx ( t300 for xbox )
How did u get the T300 for 270?
@@xABuHaMeDx it was a deal as I recall i just had to buy a game and if I bought an accessory it would come with a discount (can't remember how much % it was) , and since the the T300 was considered an accessory I just had to buy the cheapest game available. Honestly this kind of deal was a real steal.
I just upgraded from a g920 to a t300rs gt in 2023, it's a pretty massive upgrade. Much smoother and quieter. No more deadzone. Force feedback just feels better.
G923 is almost identical to the G27 I used in 2010...
T300RS is almost 10 years old...
Sad that companies aren't producing new superior products in the same price range.
There is the Moza R5 and the newly announced Cammus C5 but they are still a tier above in pricing
The main reason those wheels are so cheap is definitely the fact they are produced for such a long time, companies dont have develop new asembly proces and buy new machinery to make them. Its also just a wheel rim, electromotor and software. Theres really not that much room for improvement if you dont want to spend a lot more or go for DD. When companies want to improve whatever it cost it will only leads to abominations like wheels with flat bottom.
@@vvs6433 Heeuuu ... precisely, they are not cheap, when you see the price of the c5 and the c8 of camus, which is just arriving
Iirc I think the founder said that they want the cammus c5 to match the price of the g29
If you got thrustmaster picking t-lcms is a must, especially how cheap they can be bought from time to time.
I had a t150 pro for 1 year and the pedalboard (the same of the t300 gt broke) then i bought a t300 rs gt (the one with 3 pedals), it was much better but now after 2 years it doesn’t start. Now I don’t know what to do because you guys says thrustmaster is better but I can’t trust their reliability so should I give it another try or should I switch to logitech? ps sorry for my english
I'm looking for an upgrade from a TMX(mine got damaged) any recommendations in the 500 usd range ?
I'm totally new to sim racing (not even on controller). After adding in the shifter, T300 RS GT was significantly more expensive than the G923 bundle. Wasnt sure i wanna dump close to $700 (including a basic wheel base) when i dont know if i will continue more than a month on sim racing so I got the G923 in the end.
Same here. It’s my first wheel and overall sim racing start (gt7 psvr2 hype).
At the moment, after two month of gaming, am thinking of buying a shifter. But looks like Logitech one is shitty. Wanted th8a , but looks like it’s not compatible with my wheel on ps5…
Any thoughts?
@@chanwooksook nope
Edit: if you got $cash$ go for the Logitech G PRO Racing Wheel,
if you're on a budget, then go for the Thrust-master T300RS GT or the TS-PC RACER FERRARI 488 CHALLENGE EDITION.
It's my first Racing Wheel as well, so it really does come down to 2 options. However, if you're like me and buying the PSVR2, GT7,
Racing Wheel, Brakes, and Gear all together, then you might as well spend an extra $500.
P.S if you really want to save money, then buy the lot on Christmas...
Wtf... i got the t300 with 3 pedals and a shifter for €360
EDIT: Brand new. Store bought.
@@tunod-that’s euros though. In Canada the t300rs gt is 649.99 Cdn plus tax right now brand new and that’s the cheapest online. Edit: 1 euro is 1.45 Canadian .
Can confirm, the T300/TX are much better than Logitech. The TM belt system can translate much finer feedback details where the Logitech wheels would rattle between the gear spaces.
which is more durable and good for kids?
Thrustmaster needs a DD for PS5. Wish they’d hurry up
i have the T300 rs gt and i love it, fast though it's belt driven!
That what’s makes it better than Logitech 🤦♂️
Just waiting for Cammus C5
Could be a absolute banger beginner choice if it's any good
Well it won't have great integration into games on launch. Let alone PS5 use for gt7.
Ive had a G923 for a couple years now, and would really like to upgrade to something more serious/precise, so I really appreciate this video. While I would love to dip into DD, I want something compatible with both PS (for GT7) and PC, so my only "budget friendly" DD option is the Fanatec GT DD. When comparing full setups (base, wheel, pedals), the Fanatec GT DD bundle is in an entirely different price bracket than the T300RS. For what it costs to get the cheapest 5nM GT DD bundle, I can get the T300RS, with upgraded 3 pedal setup (compared to 2 pedals w/ the GT DD), PLUS the $200 Thrustmaster H-shifter add on, and still have money left over.
And when you look at the relative cost of what it would to kit out the Fanatec GT DD setup with a 3 pedal set, an H-shifter, and an e-brake, that price gap only grows to being undeniably a difference in kind. I desperately want to step up to the world of direct drive, but while its getting cheaper and cheaper (relatively speaking to the multi-thousand dollar top of the line DD bases) there is still no true "budget friendly" DD setup in existence. FWIW, when I say "budget friendly", I am thinking $800-$1K max for a complete setup (wheel & base, 3 pedals, separate H-shifter, and preferably E-brake).
do you mean 1G instead of 1K ?
Logitech G DD with 11NM is very good
There is now. Check out the Cammus c5
I use the G920 with a rig and the brake pedal is quite a disappointment tbh, really have to mod this thing to be consistent imo
The Cammus C5 is about to flip the entry level market upside down if you ask me. $200 for a direct drive thats smaller than the g923 and has over DOUBLE the torque. the only thing is it doesnt come with pedals, but fanatec has the hookup with the csl pedals for $80... seems like just a matter of time before the used pricing of logitech wheels drops enough to create a new "entry level" that's probably 30% less money to get started in than today.
of course if you're on console, literally nothing has changed. this is for the pc bros only sadly.
BUT STILL!
I don't think the prices will move...it's just the end of belted bases
Can I hook this up to my Ps2 if I have an adapter
I spent ages deciding between these two for using on ACC. Went with the Trustmaster and don’t regret it.
Speaking from experience going from Logitech to TM i can say with confidence that you made the right choice!
how is the wheel doing?
@@Tsukiiq Very good wheel to kick off with, worked very well without breaking the bank . I’ve recently moved on to a DD Simagic Alpha and GT Neo wheel.
T300 > G923, simple.
It’s not even a competition.
Until it breaks. Loved my T300 but its so unreliable. I used the forced fan function and everything but eventually it just goes...
Unless you want it to work everytime. Then get the Logitech it's bullet proof
@@hughxthexhand bs. Never had any issues with the T300
@@johnsfilmsllc I agree
my t300 died on me. Nope, it's not the power supply, tried 3 different ones.
so which one should i buy? i need steering wheel with over than 20 years durability, for ets2 *only*. are g29 enough for me?
I guess a g923 or g29 is enough for ets2 this video is about sim racing and i think the g923 and g29 are pretty good for ets2
i just got a g923 for 80 bucks, and a playseat for 100 ish. used ofc. but g923 was used 1x so it's brand new not 1 scratch or anything. even logo for logitech has the plastic still on. and the playseat is a evulution pro project cars 4 seat. and it looks brand new. so imo. g923 as my first wheel very happy with it. if i continue i will probably go for a moza to summer.
I am absolutley new to sin, What should i buy i am Willing to spend arround 2000$
Watching this because soon I should have enough for the Logitech, seeing how the Thrustmaster is objectively better I really wanna get it. Sadly the prices I've seen whee I live are very harsh, the T300RS GT is 4x more expensive than the G923. It seems I will get the G923 for now, I will continue my search for a cheaper T300RS GT though, but it's likly I won't find anything good. Thanks foe the video.
its same price bro
Just bought yesterday a TX (T300 but for Xbox) with a Ferrari 458 wheel, currently waiting for arrival.
Thanks for the help in choosing a wheel, as I've wanted to get a t300 since your last review of it, so thank you for helping my adhd brain decide xDD 🙏
Should have went with a direct drive fanatec. 🤔
I bought a T300 RS GT two month ago for 270€ (was on sale). The cheapest Direct Drive bundle costs around 550€ (Moza R5) ...
I don't know to which market you refere to but you should check prices before making claimes like "direkt drive wheels arent much more expensive" ...
you're so lucky... where i live you cant get the t300 for less than 400€
Pricing right now here in greece is very close G923 is about 60 euro difference and T300RS GT is at 360 so its a pretty good price considering its earlier price.
T300rs gt is cheaper
My t300 is working perfectly since 5 years with every day use
Do you have issues with overheating? I read that the force feedback gets weaker the longer you are using the t300 in one session.
I just want a wheel that’s compatible with all my games the t80 doesn’t even work very well with ats. At all.
I would never buy a Thrustmaster again, after the single mounting mechanism failed on me. The Logitech has dual mec hanism and feels much more secure.
Voice over video only, or mixed? Let me know
only
I've got a 923 and a ts-xw. The thrustmaster pedals are complete ass. Had to buy a set of t-lcm to make up the difference. The notchy-ness of the 923 sucks, but for the price? You absolutely cannot go wrong. The pedals are pretty good, the damn thing is built like a tank, and it just works. Is the ts-xw that big of an upgrade over the 923 for the price? Not really.
I have been looking at a t300 rs gt with tm-lcm pedels and th8a shifter and a tss sparco handbreak but dont know if the setup works on playstation 5 can some one help me 😊
Question just bought a t300 pre owned for my ps4 but the wheel center logo is the PlayStation logo not the thrustmaster logo is that something to be concerned about ? Plus it came with the 3 pedals not the 2 pedals
T300RS VS T-GT II when?
So I can get both wheels for 300 euros now, I really like the G923's layout and extra buttons but does the T300 really give a better experience or is there barely a difference?
Bro me too. I’m tryna find answers right now 😭😭
T300 user here, i just ordered a g923 because i hate that there aren't so much buttons on it as on the Logitech also the buttons on the t300 are kida far too reach when driving. Yes i Know you can swap Wheels on the t300 but in my opinion it isn't worth it because i have the F1 wheel add on and i didnt like how it felt and you can only use for F1 style cars.
Im in the same boat i just dont like the thrustmaster wheel, the shifter is overpriced too, and i have everything from logitech usually speakerw keyb, mouse etc
Did you use the boost mode on the T300 while testing? Would you recommend the boost mode?
thanks for this comment, i didn't know there is something like that. will turn on later then try with boost mode on
What about the Logitech Pro Series? Is it better than the Thrustmaster? Also, is the Thrustmaster compatible with Xbox Series X?
logi pro is better
the t300 is ps only. the tx is the xbbox version
@@randomcallsign so many options!!! I also heard the Fanetecs are very good!
Which one should I buy for ets2 and forza horizon 5, maybe some assetto corsa and other games in future?
PS. I've never had any steering wheel
for ets logitech has more buttons
@@randomcallsign ok ,thank u
I've never used a racing wheel so either of these would suffice for me.
T300 is like almost double the price now because of up selling 😤 Atleast where I am, people selling them for like 450+ US
Budget? This goes for 650$ in Canada
I dunno how this is even still a question. T300 hands down. Especially when you can pick them up second hand fairly cheap and even the old 9 year old two pedal ones are still a far better unit than a g923. G923 is a toy in comparison.
I dont have legs. Can I use the buttons on the wheel for gas and break?
You can. But in thay case I'd recommend something with clutch paddles
I’m really confused i want to buy the g923 wheel but i fear it may be too small and the t300 might be too big so any help? Its my first time buying a wheel and im not serious about sim racing i just wanna enjoy
can u make a video on how to add a aftermarket wheel onto the t300 base so i dont have to buy the wheel
Buy an adapter, buy a seperate wheel, bolt the wheel on adapters, put adapter on wheel, done
i was worried too, but np, its easy process, in worst case you can search on youtube people doing it :)
I haven't seen the whole video but I want to point out that if you are from a hotter climate area, don't get the t300 as it has a design flaw where it overheats in 30-40 mins and ffb cuts off. Please keep that in mind. Random callsign please heart this comment so that people can see
I've been using mine with the forced fan mode for a year without a single problem.
Then you don’t live in a hot enough climate, lucky, I had to make holes and input a higher power custom fan to make sure the ffb doesn’t cut off.
@@karansingh4445 high temps in summer are mostly 40-42°c in the bad days, 37°-39°c the average.
When you say ffb cuts off, does it eventually come back after it cools down and resets? Not that I’d want to make it get to that point of course. Just want to know if it’s likely to go caput and stay that way. Sorry, I’m new to the sim scene, and learning about the technicals nd stuff.
@@BlueePluto it should come back. Any way, use the forced fan mode and you'll have no problem. It'll make a little bit of noise but it's not noticeable with headphones, you won't lose any ffb with that mode enabled.
Onky advantage for the Logitech G923 is the price point. But honestly, for $100 more you get a far superior product. Otherwise, spend a little less and get a wheel that you will regret not spending a little more to get the T300. Also the Thrustmaster shifter is miles better than the Logitech shifter. Pedals are also way better
Why the 2 pedal set is bad ? What is the difference between the 3 pedal seat (despite the third pedal of course) ?
If you have 2 you can not use the clutch, so you cant really change gear
There’s no debate the t300rs wins in every way
Currently Fanatec csl dd bundle drop to $399 so there's no reason to get these two.
No console support
Extra upvote for use of Pink Floyd
Just got the G923 2 days ago having never experienced another wheel or ever driven a car in real life or ever having a drivers licence despite being 22 years old
its a lot different than what i expected... i am MUCH slower than my controller times , since Im basically trying to learn how to drive ... its like i have to learn a new language from scratch , but for my body , if that makes sense
I chose the G923 over the T300 because it was 90€ cheaper in my country , and also I want to buy the shifter soon , which is 120€ cheaper than the thrustmaster one , and that was also a big factor in my decision
I dont know how the T300 would feel in comparison to my G923 so I have no idea if it would have been worth it ... but i cant help but have a bit of buyers remorse when I both hear and feel the gears rattling when going over grass or gravel
And I have no idea how different the force feedback is when I go over a curb between the two wheels , wish I could try the T300 one day to compare
Other than that I hear people saying that while weak and not very detailed , the force feedback of the G923 is good enough to understand everything about the car ... but since I have no idea or reference point for how it should feel ... and because I am so new to this , I have no idea what the force feedback Im feeling means , even with full assists on I struggle to get anywhere close to my controller times and im almost constantly losing the car , missing my breaking points , etc...
I have been playing for years with a controller so I guess it should be expected that I would struggle to learn this whole new way of interacting with the car... but still , when I go back and try to play with a controller it just doesnt feel right anymore... i feel like i have way less controll even though Im much faster ... and it doesnt feel as fun , and especially noticed just how fast the steering input went from 0 to 100 and how little control i had , even though I was much faster and was not crashing...
Experiencing the wheel kinda ruined the controller experience completely , because I just cant go back despite how difficult my experience has been
(oh and on top of everything, my legs get tired quickly and the break is too stiff for my untrained legs , and even though my arms still wanna continue steering my legs just cant keep up so i have to take constant breaks ... but even still I cant go back to a controller , its not fun for me anymore )
Dont get me wrong, Im not regretting my purchase , I LOVE this new experience and the challenge of learning how to do everything from scratch , Im finding it really difficult , but I dont want to stop... even though my legs are really hurting as of me writting this comment
I guess my legs are getting a free workout , without the need for a gym subscription ...
Hey! I have the same experience and the same kinda regret. The price difference was enough for me to prefer g923 (I didn’t even knew if I would like sim racing), if you combine logі shifter’s price. But know iam helping my friend with an advice to buy a wheel and as I understand t300 is considered better , and Logitech’s shifter is total shit compared to th8a one..so maybe i should have wait a bit and put more money into the bandle…
But I like my g923 and have no complaints actually, and while I had similar to yours problem - stiffy brake pedal - I I solved this problem like this: I put on my converse shoes and fix the steering wheel so that it does not go forward.
@@chanwooksook you get used to it , it gets easier the more you play
also , IMPORTANT : dont use the default ffb settings, just google the game you want to play and reddit usually has the answer , also if you cant find the answer for the g923 , then copying the settings of someone with a g29 or g920 works just fine
after you change the settings , the force feedback will feel great , and newer games typically have better ffb than old ones
Examples of searches : "best settings f1 22 for g923" or "best settings nfs heat g29"
also, the break pedal does soften up after the first few hours of use and then stays there , still not easy to press down all the way , but its manageable
also last week i got the logitech shifter...
its fine , does its job , would have prefer if it had more weight in it , but im in no way willing to spend 180€ for the thrustmaster , even though i could use it on pc with my g923
after 2 weeks it feels a lot better than when i was just starting out
@@mariolis thanks for advises!
I'm most afraid of confusing gears because of the leather lining on top. How are you in general in this aspect? is it worth buying a shifter? I'm generally used to switching on petals. Or does the shifter add fun?
With Cammus coming out with 5nm dd with pedals S500 WHY
Let's wait for the tests .... and the long term
Who the fuck is that?
incoming fanboys acting like an extra 100-150 isn't a valid factor when buying your first wheel. 3....2....1......I'M SO ANGERY AT GEARS!!!
Here the price difference is less than 50$, but the thrustmaster doesn't come with a shifter
@@badass6300 G923 comes with shifter? when?
Here in Czech republic the price difference almost doesnt exist and you have to keep in mind that you really cant upgrade logitech wheel in any way, so if you will want to upgrade to loadcell pedals which is a must in my opinion or go to rallying and get handbrake and seq. shifter you will have to buy brand new wheel as well.
very obviously I don't live in an area where it's less than $100 so not sure how I'm supposed to take advantage of your countries ecenomics
Yeah I think I’m gonna get me a Logitech wheel just because
Which one to get? Logitech G923 vs Thrustmaster T300RS
Well i disagree, i have had two T300 and a TX from trustmaster, all three broke between 3 and 6 months, having spent over £600 and got a pile of c**p sitting here i got a Logitech G923, its =never broke, yes its a little less for true racers, i agree, but i have three broken wheels, bought new and Thrustmaster would not repair or replace, i still have a TSXW sitting in the loft, the motor fried after 3 weeks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
T300 are getting way too cheap, some g27 are more expensive
I went from a Logitech G25, to a Driveforce pro(i was poor), then to a T300, now I have a Simagic alpha mini.
GET THE ALPHA MINI! IT IS INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
for people who just starting they have no idea what you talking
T300RS
I have a T500 with Pedals. But it dont Work with the ps5. Could i use my Pedals from the T500 with the T300 base
Yes
Just ordered a t300 rs gt 😌
Review?
@@mikeygaming20 10/10 recommend, feels great fast response, would hard mount it tho the mount bends really fast
T300 is Better but It's very old, 9 years.
But isn't the T300RS like 6 yrs old?
There's a reason it's still around
People mentioning the high price of the TH8A shifter, Thrustmaster have added a TH8S shifter thats £80-100 cheaper than the TH8A if you can find one in stock.
My g923 comes tomorrow 🤪😜🤪😝😜🤪😜🤪😝😜🤪😝🤪😝🤪😝🤪 can’t wait
of course the thrustmaster is better, it's $100 more
Cammus DD C5, 250$
Let's wait for the tests .... and the long term
neither of those
Opt for a moza r5 (imo)
This doesn't need to be a 10 min video - save up a bit more and go for the T300RS and that's it. You won't have to upgrade for a good 3-4 years. If you are on a budget, go for the G29 instead rather than the G923, it's essentially the same thing. Better yet, look at the second hand market.
reliability is thrustmasters weakness
Yes and no
@@THESHADOW97139 definitely maybe
Absolutely it is, I bought a t300rs gt edition and the servo failed within 5 mouths, bought another thrustmaster wheel and it failed 2 mouths in, meanwhile my g29 that I've had for over a year still works fine. When the t300 works it's 100% a better wheel but thrustmaster quality control is hot dog shit and I'll never waste any more money on there products.
Just turn down the strength of the ffb it over heats at max strength
I bought a g29 first. Decided that if this was what sim racing was I had no interest.
Returned it and got a t300. And it actually felt like driving a car.
did the g29 not feel realistic?
@@ex5mthe gear driven system feels very notchy and doesn't feel like real driving
i did just the same, g29 still was great starting out and i enjoyed sim racing so i returned it and got the t300, its just smoother im doing better in my games as well.
Got more confused by watching this video…
The real answer is "broken" tx motor for 50 euros and 50 for a rim
If you got $cash$ go for the Logitech G PRO Racing Wheel,
if you're on a budget, then go for the Thrust-master T300RS GT or the TS-PC RACER FERRARI 488 CHALLENGE EDITION.
It's my first Racing Wheel as well, so it really does come down to 2 options. However, if you're like me and buying the PSVR2, GT7,
Racing Wheel, Brakes, and Gear all together, then you might as well spend an extra $500.
P.S if you really want to save money, then buy the lot on Christmas...
Edit: Don't spend over $2,000 because at that point you might as well rent a Ferrari.
T300 babey
Me just chilling with a g923 and a t300rs
Which is better
t@@WickedGhost t300rs
@@rphonk6712 👍🏽
Dont buy g923. It sucks. 300 dollar i the ocean
Thrustmaster? My gf says i'm more of a belly-to-belly boy
love your channel . but this , this you do every 3-6 months like all the time this same vid over and over and over and overand over come on man lol
same video, again and again.. Boring.
Fr, I like Random but it's getting out of hand 😅.
I got a superdrive for £50.love it.does what it says on the box.🖕😆