Watch mj's underrated wizard years. Also watch your own reaction to this. Before seeing the numbers you disagreed with his statements. Many times making excuses. Then think about your own bias.
MJ the GOAT easly, the only bias is what are you saying, show just one clip where MJ do that same awful defensive plays of LB showed in this video, you won't find it even in MJ's rookie season, LB Is a great player, but he's far from being the GOAT, far from MJ
Something that kills me is I bet LeBron fans didn't even watch him play high school ball, they watched highlights! I was born in the 70s in Chicago, I was mad when the Bulls win their first championship because I was a Magic fan as a kid when he played at Michigan State! I watched him play Bird and then play in the Finals! People are really casual fans if they don't know the game in any era... there wasn't just one player, but players on great teams! When MJ hit the league players had to play positions, but Jordan took over AT shooting guard, but it's the fact that he played both sides of the ball! If you only look at highlights, guess what? He played like that EVERY single game starting at N.C. with James Worthy, Sam Perkins, and Kenny Smith! I'm my opinion regardless of the record, the Bulls weren't better than the teams they beat in the finals until his second 3peat!
@@roderickarina a couple losses when he was playing with the bulls team that sucked enough to draft him, but he was still destroying everyone himself lol
Yeah compared to Michael, LeBron has a weak shooting game. And how you guys were saying MJ wasnt clutch enough. More clutch than LeBron stats say that and the eye test says that. Y'all who run this channel just LeBronsexuals and follow that man like he's God.
He didn't say LeBron got 27 pts off put backs, he said he takes most of his shots from within 0-3 ft of the rim. Yall had me talking to the screen 😂 😂 😂
and it's wild, because later, they showed the stats, the FACTS that he mainly took shots from within 0-3 ft, and these guys were still not believing it. It's craaazy.
People have been conditioned to not believe anything outside of what they want to be true. This video crushes lebron fans souls but you know they know it's not even a debate after they watch it. 😅
MJ didn't pay trainers $1 million to work him out. And when MJ played, they actually created "The Jordan Rules" to try to defend him. Much more physical era during MJ's career.
Right, he just tapped their legs and they'd float right past him while he post up for a jumper. I'm the biggest Jordan fan EVER! But I can honestly say he was slick one of the dirtiest players ever. Doesn't diminish his skills tho. The refs just weren't catching on, and that's okay because basketball was played differently back then anyway. Not all the rules they have these days.
The reason they gave lebron so many negatives is because he had so many negatives. MJ was basically the definition of perfection. Getting crossed up by Iverson doesn’t mean you have flaws like LeBron does. Everybody gets crossed up at some point in their careers.
LeBron got crossed up by Jason Terry... If getting crossed up by AI is a mark against someone according to these guys, what does getting crossed up by Jason Terry mean?
@@lincolnfineblanket5446FACTS. Also if you see when Jordan next played AI he defended him perfectly by given Iverson room and always staying on either side of him rather than directly in front of him., Jordan is so elite that he figured AI out, in the meantime in the same gam..Randy Brown, Ron Harper, Steve Kerr and Pippen all got crossed lol
The problem is when you've actually never seen Jordan play it's hard to believe the stories because it sounds like a movie..but he actually didn't have any weaknesses on the court and that's why he's the Goat
just exactly what it is i actually heard one clown say on another video that yes BEFORE he saw some jordan footage he actualluy thought a player couldnt be better than lebron and kobe i feel SO sorry for these fools mj was WAY better than lebalco
Honestly, watching y'all is giving me a headache because y'all talk too much . Instead of listening, y'all yapping away, he clearly showed on the stats that most of LeBron's shots are taken 0-3 feet from the basket (not that they were all put backs) but because y'all want to defend Bron so badly by talking over the video that you are supposed to be giving a reaction to it is clear y'all are missing the point he is clearly illustrating. Why not just shut the hell up and let the entire thing play then react to it so you don't miss the valid points he made without y'all falsely claiming he was biased. The only ones I see bias in are all of you!!
He helped make them the second best defense in the league behind Indiana before he got hurt for the season. That season, only two players had 25 5 and 5 at the ALL-Star break. Kobe and MJ…..when MJ was 39. He only shot 43% from the field but still not embarrassing.
@@michaelwhite8119 and don't forget Artest injured his ribs in preseason pickups in Chicago. Jordan was gonna have a 30ppg season the way he was looking before the injury at age 37 in one of the most deadballs era in league. Btw, I lived in DC around that time and that Wizards team was absolute dog shit other than rip and then Jerry but achieved what it did because of his greatness
I enjoyed the reaction. I also appreciate the fact that these guys are Advent basketball fans, but listening to them talk they clearly don’t have the history and knowledge of the game which I would encourage them to seek out more of. A lot of the points that they are making is not based off of fact, but just feelings!
i wasn't a bulls fan or jordan fan but i had to admit that he was the best player, and remember he is the reason they allowed zone defense in the nba to make it easier to play defense
Your assessment is what a real fan would say even if he wasn't a fan of the bulls, because you know what you saw, and you saw these facts that were presented in this video also!!
Wilt holds 72 NBA records, he averaged 50 pts & 25 rbs per game for an entire season & 30 pts & 23 rbs per game for his career. He also lead the league in assist one year & played all 48 min of every game for an entire season. Trust me, he’s on mount roushmore
And that young gun saying Tim Duncan should be at Mt. Rushmore than Wilt. Even Tim would want to blow his face off of that mountain if his face would be there than wilt. His not even close..
@@dkmach1058 Timmy is the most humble superstar ever. Underrated in my opinion and arguably the best teammate and franchise player of all time. However, I do agree that Wilt is the better basketball player to put on there in terms of his dominance and unbreakable records.
That's right and when MJ was in the wizard if I'm not mistaken, the last 20 games before MJ got injured, he was averaging 27-29ppg and he was also one of the MVP candidates he was 39 or 40 yrs old at that time.
@@accshsmilgroup1408 damn didn't know that. Also Jordan is the oldest player to score 50 points in a game too I believe. Also before Jordan got hurt, the Wizards were in playoff contention too.
@@washburn11000 Yes. They were number 1 defensive team and offensive team in the east before he got hurt. With MJ's Robinhood in Wizard Richard Hamilton.
@@washburn11000 He also had the Wizards sitting at a potential 4-6 seed in the playoffs before his injury. Another crazy stat, Jordan has at least a 40 piece on every franchise he's played against, and a 50 piece on every franchise in the East that he's played against.
MJ is the greatest to do it, seen Kobe, Bron, KD, Magic, Bird, etc... play their entire careers and Mike was just another level. A relentless offensive and defensive nightmare to the point he had other Hall of Famers having nightmares having to play him. Never have seen anyone rise to his level, would say Kobe came the closest.
@@SonJosuke-oz5ru 2011 mavs vs heat lebron had the superteam mavs had just dirk; jj barea SHUT DOWN lebalco lebalco scored just 8 (EIGHT) pts in one game and ave ONLY 17/gm after averaging 27 during the season... again'; no comparison jordan is just obviously better
I truely believe, that Jordan would have won 8 straight championships, if he would have not retired the first time and we wouldn't be arguing about this at all. GOAT.
guys, i enjoy your reactions. I'm a Laker fan and LeBron is way better than I used to think he was. However, the stats aren't going to change if they show LeBron in a Cavs or Heat uniform. I watched Jordan play throughout his career. With defenses spread out the way they are today, he would easily average 40-45 points a game. Also, as a Laker fan I watched all of Kobe's career, and I'm giving the ball to Michael Jordan every time I need a basket.
@@jrprince6951 you are correct. However, I'm not sure why that matters. My point was that although LeBron is one of the best of all time, he's not the best.
@@ApplePiezz No. Mostly due to his shot selection. LeBron rarely takes a bad shot. Kobe would pass up an open shot only to settle for a spinning fadeaway with time running out. But I loved Kobe's intensity and that he always played thru injuries.
Real Talk TV Before video: LeBron might STILL be in his prime. Real Talk TV after seeing Lebron’s defense: Oh, that’s him in a Lakers jersey. He isn’t in his prime.
27:55 the BS starts.... Just like that stupid babble about Jordan still having to make 40% three-point shots, even though by the time Michael Jordan started basketball, there wasn't even a three-point line. So what kind of logic they showed here in part, just very, very weak.
My thing argument wen ever anyone brings up MJ n Shooting Threes is Simple whether they wanna accept it or not .... Those days 3 Point Shooters were Specialists, thts why we saw Kerr, Del Curry which is Steph n his Bro Dad, Miller, Paxson, Craig Hodges, Trent Tucker, Dan Marjle, Mark Price, Derlef Schremf, Jeff Hornacek, Kenny Smith, Robert Horry, Dirk a mean our era had Specialists so wen teams were down they subbed in their SPECIALISTS, their 3 Point SPECIALISTS now the game has changed so everyone wanna handle the Rock, + wht GSW brĵso thts why there's the Big Buzz with 3 pointers.
@@Mister__Jey Besides that Jordan was like a 36-38% shooter when he actually started taking 3s regularly...and not just when the line was shortened (when it actually went over 40%). He was actually a good 3 shooter when he tried. His averages were tanked because of his very early career when he wasn't shooting 3s and when he was older (35+). Otherwise he was well-above average in any era.
That's what I was thinking hahaha, they are pissed! And these guys keep angling for a way to keep saying that LeBron is better than mj, but it's pretty evident that he's NOT! They said they don't like the way his name got bashed off of shooting, that's LeBron taking his shots and missing in the last 5 seconds of the game, what more proof do you need that he's only 20% in the last 5 seconds of a game, basically the clutch of the game WHEN IT REALLY counts!
MJ in wizards jersey is good in Defense he averaged 4-5 rebounds and 1.5 steals per game and take note he is 40 years old that time. Lebron yesterday was demoralized by Andrew Nembhard #2 Pacers because his DEFENSE is SLOPPY.
What does "what jersey they showed" have to do with anything when he gave your their CAREER stats? That covers every team! What you're experiencing is called "cognitive dissonance." It's when you want to believe in something SO bad, that you'll dismiss all facts and evidence that disproves it. That's why y'all couldn't accept anything that was said in this video. I'm from Michigan. Born and raised. I absolutely HATE Micheal Jordan! I LOVED watching my Bad Boy Pistons send him home every year!!! And I've watched both his AND Lebron's careers in their entirety and it's not even CLOSE! Jordan was better by every metric. Even with the current use of analytics, Jordan is STILL better. Trust me, I WANT someone else to be the GOAT so I can stop having to admit it's Jordan. But, I know what I saw with my own eyes. And the baddest man to ever step on that court, was MJ. And this is coming from his biggest hater!
I’m this way about Kobe. I’ve been a Mavs fan and Kobe dominated against us year in and year out. He and MJ are about the only two players I’ve seen that when they got fired up, it was over. No defense was holding them. I have respect for Kobe, MJ and Wade. They all played to win and gave up their body to do so. They always felt they had something to prove.
@@michaelwhite8119 Jordan said it best when he described Kobe. "He's cursed just like I am. That "need" to win." Key word being "need." It wasn't about the money. Wasn't about the endorsements, the popularity, the stats. They played as hard as they did because they HAD to win! And would do any and everything to ensure it. Even if it costs them everything! For Kobe, his health. For Jordan, his friendships and even his marriage. That indeed, sounds like a curse.
Bad Boys 4 Life! Absolutely hated guys like MJ and Bird, but they earned my respect. What LBJ has been able to do is phenomenal, but his resume comes up just a bit short of Jordan’s.
There can be a major difference between cold hard facts and what you feel is right and that is where a lot of Lebron fans can't (or won't) make the distinction with any objectivity. Here is a fact for you, only four times in the history of the NBA has a player in the same season earned the following achievements: Regular Season MVP NBA Champion Finals MVP Scoring Title Champion Selected onto the All NBA 1st Team Selected onto the NBA All Defensive 1st Team MJ was the player responsible for ALL four of those occasions and that is just one of the reasons as to why he is the GOAT.
I like that one sir👍🏽. Here’s another from 1990-1998 when MJ played for the Bulls they never lost more than two games in a row. These youngsters really don’t understand how silly this whole debate truly is.
If Jordan and LeBron played at the same time, Jordan would make it his top priority to be #1. Even if LeBron was way better than Jordan in the beginning, Jordan would practice until he was the better player. He wouldn't accept being #2 and wouldn't let it happen. Jordan was the GOAT because he put in the time and effort to be the best player in the world. He would play 36 holes of golf in the afternoon, then drop 50 points in a game that evening. Not to mention game 5 of the '97 NBA finals where he had a 103° fever, and still got 38 pts, 7 rebounds, 5 assists, AND dropped the game-winning 3 pointer. Anybody else would have been in the hospital, but not the GOAT. 🐐
When Jordan played for the Wizards he came out of retirement to help a weak team which he was invested with financially. LeBron made a career of finding the best players to team up with to increase his odds of winning a championship(Lakers as well). That needs to be considered.
I loved how a few times, y'all would say something against the video, and then the video would address it 😄 Oh, and the reason the video "didn't show negative MJ moments"... is because they barely exist. Really just poor shooting nights, or losing to a better team.
@@stormcoates5120 if jason terry crossed lebron .. than ai would send him back to miami.. "goin to miami , YO TENGO A MIAMI" .. party in the city where the HEAT is on.. ".. ok jus kidding
You might not want Jordan's hair style (or lack of), but back in the day... there was even a song that said "Like Mike. I want to be like Mike!" He was a roll model for a generation.
"Stop showing him in a Lakers jersey."...If LeBron didn't hop from team to team to team, you wouldn't have that problem, LOL. That's another flaw to LeBron's career that this assessment didn't even mention. LeBron has used free agency to try to stack the deck in terms of his roster to help him win. MJ never had to do that because he didn't need "outside help" to win. Even when they added Dennis Rodman in 1995-96, Rodman was a misfit who wasn't a desired free agent among other NBA teams. He was a rebounder and defender with an attitude problem. Chicago was the only place he could have succeeded because of MJ's leadership and non-tolerance of the kind of shenanagins Rodman was known for at the time. MJ was the only player a malcontent like Rodman would respect.
No other player ever won 10 scoring titles and 9 all defensive 1st teams in 11 years, other than MJ. and during the 1st 3pt, Jordan had only 1 all-star teammate in Scottie pippin. 1 allstar was all he needed to 3peat. nothing Lebron or any other player has ever done can come close to touching that. It’s just the truth.
@@dr9660 Olajuwon didn’t do it while winning 10 scoring titles and 9 all defensive 1st teams in 11 years though. Its not just the championships. It’s the complete body of work in the short amount of time it took him to accomplish it.
I love how when it got to the part where he highlighted how Bron has fallen off on the defensive end yall got so bent out of shape because he was showing Lakers highlights, but he then showed two back to back highlights of Bron on the Cavs slacking on defense, and then he showed MJ at 39 and 40 on the Wizards still busting his ass on the defensive end... hahahaha... yall can't say dudes are biased for MJ when those reactions prove yall are biased for Bron just the same lol... good video.
LeBron James started slacking off on defense before he joined the Lakers. He's just now at the point where his age can be a legitimate part of the excuse. Remember he last made a defensive team in Miami. MJ made All-defensive 1st team last at 35. Being one of the leaders in the league in minutes , scoring and still being a first team defensive player in your mid thirties and playing all 82 games plus the playoffs? They rarely make players like that anymore. You can make entire highlight videos just of LeBron standing on the opposite side of the court watching his team play 4 v 5 on defense. Defense is all about effort. Trying and failing is much different than failing because you didn't try. Jordan has multiple seasons with over 200 steals and 100 blocks including 2 with both. LeBron has never had a season with either. Additionally he gives you the numbers to back up what he says. Ignoring them because you don't like what they say makes you biased. And remember that a lot of the numbers he gave INCLUDE the Wizards years which lowered his overall totals. Even with the Washington years dragging them down he still leads in many catagories and analytics. MJ coming back to play for the Wizards helped LeBron because now he isn't as far behind if we were just counting the Bulls years.
And yet they don’t want to see LBJ in the LAKERS jersey lol man the LAKERS are a legacy organization. What jersey do you want him to have…Jordan put a wizards jersey to lead not to RIP.
@@punkem733He played all 82 games his last year. His first year with Wizards he got injured in Februari, continued to play 8 more games iirc before getting surgery.
MJ is the G.O.A.T...he played in a way more physical era and if you looked at every single game he played, you would see him fly over every opposing player at some point..he had unparalleled instincts, could find holes in the defense and run straight to the basket...he pushed his team, built his team, left his team only when he retired (after losing his beloved dad) and then came back to 3 peat AGAIN! stats are important but it's the intangibles that make one a GOAT...he had a mental fortitude, work ethic, desire to win, and a love of the game that is unmatched in today's players...
Check his last 4th quarters in 1998 that guy was something else…He was a winner. And he played the same on the first game of the season as in the last he thrived while competing that was his fuel.
I support the Jordan case but this video is biased. Take the VORP example. Lebron has the edge there, but he says thats a cumulative stat so obviously its just about longevity. Instead, he says lets see VORP per season. And leads you to believe thats a fair comparison. But guess what? It is cumulative for a single season, too. Meaning who played the most games a season will have the highest score. Jordan played 12 season with 78 games or more, Lebron only 7. Still Lebron has 15 seasons in the top 100, MJ only 11. They way things are presented, the way he choses the stats to use and the way he talks about them is biased. It sometimes feels like listening to Nick Wright arguing for Bron.
@@arguseyed9982 your comment is also not presenting full context. Lebron has 15 seasons in the top 100 and Jordan has 11 but Jordan has 6 in the top ten, 9 in the top 50 and every year he played in a Bulls uniform is in the top 100. Context matters a lot in all these discussions.
It's not about what you see in the images of the video, is what he is saying, Jordan acolites support this difference between Lebron and him. And it's obvious that you get piss because you were talking too much instead of hearing, he didn't said "Lebron is a bad defender", he said "it's an inconsistent defender" that is true, not because he is bad, but because even in his prime had better seasons than others, in case of Jordan he was consistently all years a prime defender, that was the point.
I think LeBron has had the best career out of any player in the NBA because of his longevity and how he took care of his body. As far as how good he was in his absolute prime, though... He's in my top 10. Probably somewhere around 7 or 8. I'm not old enough to have seen Wilt, Bill Russell, or Oscar Robertson play, but of the people I can remember watching, I would put LeBron, prime for prime, behind MJ, Kareem, Magic, Kobe, Larry, and Shaq.
You guys just kept saying bias and "he got 27ppg on putbacks?" while the stats were on screen. Facts aren't bias. No he didn't get most of his points on putbacks, but the shots that he takes the most (1/3 of his shots) are within 3 feet.
If y'all actually just really listened to the info in the video then you would actually hear all of it before ASSuming that he is being biased or not or whether or not he's adequately giving you the details.
So what they didn't show Bron in all his other Super Team uniforms, the important thing is they showed all the Stats to back up what points he proved. The main problem besides the fact that y'all wanted so badly for Bron to be the GOAT is that y'all talked entirely too damn much over all the important Stats that y'all missed all of the facts entirely. Next time y'all watch this...just watch it and be the Hell quiet through the entire video so you can clearly understand the points y'all claim he isn't showing when he clearly is.😡😡
i have probably watched a dozen reaction videos to the goat comparison and i absolutely love watching the cope and seethe from the people watching... everyone screams "its bias" or complaining about the lakers jersey but no one refutes the numbers
Yall gotta stop talking over videos dismissing shit when they are giving context. Oh and btw refererring to jordan as just "good" diminishes your opinion. Yall are literally reacting to a G.O.A.T (greatest of all time) video 🤦🏾♂️. Same thing goes for bron if u refer to him as just "good" how am I supposed to take you opinion and arguments serious.
Summary of this video: Talking over facts, complaining about the jersey worn during a video clip and screaming bias when they did not consistently watch Jordan play.
@@johnnytudor5576 They base it in there emotions watch there faces when Lebron has a highlight they lowkey smile, they hate MJ because he is the single player that Lebron cannot compete when it comes to legacy.
LeBron's the best athlete to ever play basketball biggest fastest strongest Jordans the best basketball player to ever play most skilled silky smooth clutch
You guys cared more about what jerseys he were showing lebron in than the numbers he was actually saying. All the facts went into 1 ear and out the other lol.
The first year in LA LBJ was 34, in 1998 MJ was 34. Difference is MJ was all defense 1st team that year mean while LBJ was nearly horrendous defensively at points during his first year with LA. So showing LBJ in an LA jersey is relevant, especially if LBJ fans consider him to potentially still be in his prime.
Continuation: Michael post his prime, which i and others assert to be around 88-93, was still considered by many, during that 95-98 stretch, to be the best defender in basketball. While LBJ post his prime, which I assert and others, to be around 2007-2014, was never again, during that 2015-2019, considered to be the best defender in basketball. If anything during certain years of that stretch LBJ was at times considered to be in the bottom half when it came to defense.
Your being selective with your points. By their respective age 34 seasons, LeBron had already played over 4 more entire seasons worth of NBA basketball with zero years off since 2003. Jordan was amazing but he took multiple years off and was a shell of himself even at a rested 38. The all time record for highest PPG for a year 20 player was 17ppg by Kobe, LeBron just shattered it by averaging almost 30ppg. Greatness is not only about achieving in a short time but ultimately defined by how long a player has been able to remain among the best in the world, And that is LeBron James for 20 years straight and is unprecedented in NBA.
@@MoSuli96 it is unprecedented now, but more and more players will get the same longevity checks that leflop gets, advancements in medicine, training, load management, not playing defence for half his years in the league, etc. Ofc he is going to play 20+ years ,In his entire career he only played 82 games once, ONCE! in 20 years. Longevity means shit, you can put in a bucket a day for 40 years and pass everyone in the league but does that make you better than them? And not only that but he plays in a league with 0, 0! defense at all he never gets punched or thrown, he can practically stroll down the lane and just hoop.
Dude, yall keep crying about him being in a Lakers jersey but in beginning of video can't except he is out of his prime.... it's not bias. You guys missed a lot of the facts because yall was talking too much lol. I am a diehard Kobe fan but MJ is the GOAT.... PERIOD
"Yo, I didn't see LeBron in his OTHER jerseys"! WE ALL saw "All-Time" STATISTICS! YOU GUYS are "THE BIASED" populous! The rules NOW make it a SOFT league with WIDE OPEN lanes and WAYYYYY EASIER shooting ability! Michael Jordan would light THIS league up with an average of 50 + points a game! Now, "YO" to THAT! 😂
Only one GOAT. 2011 only is too big of a blemish. Outplayed by an aging 6th man who called him out and proceeded to toast him the whole series. If Lebron’s attribute is that he “Guards 1-5” why didn’t he shut down or slow down Dirk?
@Cornpops Razor too bad only Armchair Ball Players are the only ones that think that crap. The NBA League and over 99% of its' Best Players believe Jordan is the G.O.A.T. Funny, I don't see a trophy named after the Fake goat aka Sheep LBJ
MJ changed the paradigm of the game from the game revolving around big men (forwards and centers) to revolving around him and the Guard position…he came into the league with his own Blueprint and also revolutionized the game….MJ was also the ultimate consummate pro hardly ever missing a game and playing through injuries today’s elite players can’t play all 82 games…no one is going to top MJ in this lifetime.
Ya wrong tho MJ won his last title at 36 yrs old with bulls. Lebron been with Lakers since he was 33 yrs old playing suspect defense..Mj was 39 and 40 yrs old with the wizards..and still playing D. If lebron was not playing D at 34 or 37 he damn sure ain't gonna play D at 40 like MJ lol no comparison. Why do ya compare mj wizards years to lebron laker years 🤔 Mj was still hoppin and winning at the age lebron was with Lakers. Stop giving lebron excuses lol
MJ was a treat to watch! His mentality is night and day different than LBJs. I wanted to see KD vs LBJ for many years, but both backed down from the challenge sadly! MJ NEVER backed down! He was a killer! I feel bad for the kids who didn’t see the best sports era ever.
these guy dont even know how old MJ was when playing for his 2nd 3 peat and then give excuses for lebron's laker years. LEBRON WAS 34 WHEN HE WENT TO THE LAKERS. MJ WAS 33 WHEN HE STARTED HIS SECOND 3 PEAT. making excuses for 20 years and cant listen when facts are being told. typical lebron fan behavior. u guys r youtubers. either u can bring ur own facts and debate this or u can listen to facts. u keep saying dangerprods is biased. so r u guys. u guys making excuses based on ur feelings and emotions rather than facts. thats female arguing methods.
If Michael Jordan played in the NBA today with No Hand Checking on Defense, Load Management, all the Soccer Flopping and lazy minded players, and all the rule changes that softened up the game...he would be averaging appx. 25 - 30 a game...and that is only because he is 60 years old.
Forget about the jersey boys your looking at the facts of the MJ vs LB. Let's not forget he made wearing sneakers cool worldwide. Watching Michael in the 90s was insane. The man was on another level. In all honesty Michael would break Lebrons will. Give MJ any lip? And he will destroy you! Look at what he does at like 6.6ft, he runs rings around everyone. Even Shaq was terrified of Michael
Don’t forget, mj won his last title at 36 of age. So you say prime . Its just his killer mentality and his nature to be the best who separates him grom the rest. Not to mention his skillset!! He’s the greatest ever!! No doubt!!
Awww man why I click on this, these young dudes about to hate all true statements bout Bron 🤣😂😂 haven’t seen a youngin yet like this video 💀 about to be hilarious how y’all gone try and save Bron from these truths
I'm a die hard Lakers fan... but how do you say Kobe was more clutch than Jordan. And more clutch than Bird??? I'm lost for words. Wilt and Russell don't get enough love by these young guys. I watched some of wilts games when he we oung and he was God like. Would have killed to see prime shaq and wilt go at it
People who saw both say Its Jordan.. people who say its Lebron, only saw Lebron. There is so much you see when you watch nba as it happens. Highlights don't show build up, pressure, hype, intensity.. you don't see the game in game out toughness of a team through highlights. I cringe when young fans actually attempt to discredit Jordan's competition. If you watched both, you see the lack of defense, physicality and intensity between competitors today.
People also ask Has Michael Jordan lost a playoff series? Those 8 years are still considered iconic and will be forever because of the stature of what MJ and the Bulls achieved. The Bulls, with Jordan, lost just 1 playoff series out of the 26 they competed in during this era. That 1 loss came in 1995 after Jordan had returned from his 1-year hiatus from basketball.Aug 5, 2022
@@pass_me_d_blunt1298 those Cleveland teams were far better than what Jordan was playing with his first five seasons, so if Jordan wouldn't leave a worse Bulls team then he definitely wouldn't have left a Cleveland team that had another Allstar. The very first season that Jordan played with an Allstar, he won the Finals and never looked back.
There is a reason you don't see many bad MJ moments. lol When you watched MJ back in the day, it was something special. You very rarely saw him ever take a play off. You would have never caught him trying to kick someone running by. And if someone beat Jordan on a play, or tried to punk him, you knew you were about to see something amazing from Jordan in return.
"Lebron is just different brah. He just different." Words spoken by people who didn't watch Jordan play. Every. Single. Time. Some of us are old enough to have seen both of their careers since the beginning...
"Lebron averaged 30 last year" Yeah and last year they averaged like 130ppg. In the 80's and 90's it was in the 90ppg range. So scoring 30 a game was much more impressive then, or even at the beginning of LeBrons career, than now.
Depends on the period you're looking at. Late 80s they would score on avg almost as much as they scored in the past 5 years or so (except for maybe last season, which was insane). Those numbers started to decline a bit in the early 90s, but were still higher than in the first half of LeBron's career. The real decrease started in the 2nd half of the 90s and continued throughout the 2000s until the early 2010s. Then gradually after 2015 thngs picked back up again, to reach that insane 114 ppg average this past season. I don't think this is an argument against LeBron, although I didn't calculate the average between LBJ and MJs career years. That's probably still a bit higher for LeBron, but I don't think it influences that much. What does influence instead is those under 3feet, over 3feet shooting numbers, where it's obvious from the percentages, but also from volumes thay LeBron is a player with a limited bag compared to MJ, Kobe and others. You cannot deny LeBron has one dominant style (and I don't care if he creates his shots or not): he's a buldozer and he's eficient from close range only
Also to add Jordan on the wizards in his last year played in all 82 games as a 40 year old. That person loved the game and makes sure, anyone that bought a ticket would get to see him play, not like other's we know. You also do not have to like the guy, but facts are facts, go look up the stats for yourself and see the type of shot lebron takes 0-3 feet.
Where does Jordan and Lebron rank all time?
Watch mj's underrated wizard years. Also watch your own reaction to this. Before seeing the numbers you disagreed with his statements. Many times making excuses. Then think about your own bias.
Mj number 1
Lebron top 5 for now may drop if he misses the playoffs, again
Jesus Loves you and wants you to accept him as your Lord and saviour
MJ the GOAT easly, the only bias is what are you saying, show just one clip where MJ do that same awful defensive plays of LB showed in this video, you won't find it even in MJ's rookie season, LB Is a great player, but he's far from being the GOAT, far from MJ
MJ easily
LeBron fans always say this video is biased. Ok, but it's also FACTS. 🤣
MJ = 🐐
There’s no cure for retardation with the brongaloids 🤫
They don’t do facts lol
Exactly it’s the most annoying thing
That's how it is these days, point the finger and call names. Don't try to understand or comprehend, just blame.
Something that kills me is I bet LeBron fans didn't even watch him play high school ball, they watched highlights! I was born in the 70s in Chicago, I was mad when the Bulls win their first championship because I was a Magic fan as a kid when he played at Michigan State! I watched him play Bird and then play in the Finals! People are really casual fans if they don't know the game in any era... there wasn't just one player, but players on great teams! When MJ hit the league players had to play positions, but Jordan took over AT shooting guard, but it's the fact that he played both sides of the ball! If you only look at highlights, guess what? He played like that EVERY single game starting at N.C. with James Worthy, Sam Perkins, and Kenny Smith! I'm my opinion regardless of the record, the Bulls weren't better than the teams they beat in the finals until his second 3peat!
They can’t handle the truth lol!
"We keep seeing a BUNCH of bad LeBron moments, but NO bad MJ moments..." well kids, thats because MJ dont have any bad moments 💯
He did miss a dunk…but he still the best.
@@roderickarina a couple losses when he was playing with the bulls team that sucked enough to draft him, but he was still destroying everyone himself lol
Yeah compared to Michael, LeBron has a weak shooting game. And how you guys were saying MJ wasnt clutch enough. More clutch than LeBron stats say that and the eye test says that. Y'all who run this channel just LeBronsexuals and follow that man like he's God.
No, the video isn’t about Jordan and LeBron in their prime. It’s about who’s the best player period.
A video of MJ in his Prime only...would embarrass LB fans even more. This at least included his wizards stats, made him appear almost mortal.
they keep saying bro is GOAT of his generation sometimes. WTH is that? lol. GOAT means greatest of all time, not eras. They gotta take these L'.
@@StandUpGill Exactly 👍🏻🌸!
He didn't say LeBron got 27 pts off put backs, he said he takes most of his shots from within 0-3 ft of the rim. Yall had me talking to the screen 😂 😂 😂
and it's wild, because later, they showed the stats, the FACTS that he mainly took shots from within 0-3 ft, and these guys were still not believing it. It's craaazy.
People have been conditioned to not believe anything outside of what they want to be true. This video crushes lebron fans souls but you know they know it's not even a debate after they watch it. 😅
MJ didn't pay trainers $1 million to work him out. And when MJ played, they actually created "The Jordan Rules" to try to defend him. Much more physical era during MJ's career.
He would have showed Jordan flopping too, but Jordan NEVER had to do that to win.
Lol facts!
I've never seen Jordan flop not once
@Michael Scofield I think the closest to MJ is Kobe would be cool to get a stats on that too
@Michael Scofield lol imagine that
Right, he just tapped their legs and they'd float right past him while he post up for a jumper. I'm the biggest Jordan fan EVER! But I can honestly say he was slick one of the dirtiest players ever. Doesn't diminish his skills tho. The refs just weren't catching on, and that's okay because basketball was played differently back then anyway. Not all the rules they have these days.
Them stats get y’all boys real quiet 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nah, They so delusional they didnt shut up the whole damn time !
@@adamsaville3318 they really talked over some stats that would've hurt their feelings even more.
The guy in colorful sweatshirt talks too much
@@junparas9440ommm the whole time in my head I’m saying “stfuuu”
@junparas9440 I was thinking the same lol.....like damn pay attention....numbers don't lie and this video gave them all the numbers.....
The reason they gave lebron so many negatives is because he had so many negatives. MJ was basically the definition of perfection. Getting crossed up by Iverson doesn’t mean you have flaws like LeBron does. Everybody gets crossed up at some point in their careers.
LeBron got crossed up by Jason Terry...
If getting crossed up by AI is a mark against someone according to these guys, what does getting crossed up by Jason Terry mean?
He almost fuckin defended that shit too lmao AI even admitted he almost recovered the defence perfectly
Thing is, how many times can you find AI crossing Mj up? Once, and he still almost blocked the shot.
@@lincolnfineblanket5446FACTS. Also if you see when Jordan next played AI he defended him perfectly by given Iverson room and always staying on either side of him rather than directly in front of him., Jordan is so elite that he figured AI out, in the meantime in the same gam..Randy Brown, Ron Harper, Steve Kerr and Pippen all got crossed lol
lebron would be crossed to death by prime iverson^^ lebron doesnt have a chance to see the ball xD
The problem is when you've actually never seen Jordan play it's hard to believe the stories because it sounds like a movie..but he actually didn't have any weaknesses on the court and that's why he's the Goat
just exactly what it is
i actually heard one clown say on another video that yes BEFORE he saw some jordan footage he actualluy thought a player couldnt be better than lebron and kobe
i feel SO sorry for these fools
mj was WAY better than lebalco
Die hard Lakers fan here. Goats don’t flop.
YES!!!
LeFraud= King of Flop
Honestly, watching y'all is giving me a headache because y'all talk too much .
Instead of listening, y'all yapping away, he clearly showed on the stats that most of LeBron's shots are taken 0-3 feet from the basket (not that they were all put backs) but because y'all want to defend Bron so badly by talking over the video that you are supposed to be giving a reaction to it is clear y'all are missing the point he is clearly illustrating.
Why not just shut the hell up and let the entire thing play then react to it so you don't miss the valid points he made without y'all falsely claiming he was biased.
The only ones I see bias in are all of you!!
Word, These kneegas talk so much crap. numbers dont lie!
Truth
Clown crew. They say bias and then the facts come right after that, then they sit there looking mentally challenged
Truth! Made it look like they don't even know basketball so why are they even doing a reaction video
Truth! Made it look like they don't even know basketball so why are they even doing a reaction video
Jordan in a Wizards jersey was still a top defender, you kids are delusional
He helped make them the second best defense in the league behind Indiana before he got hurt for the season.
That season, only two players had 25 5 and 5 at the ALL-Star break. Kobe and MJ…..when MJ was 39. He only shot 43% from the field but still not embarrassing.
@@michaelwhite8119 and don't forget Artest injured his ribs in preseason pickups in Chicago. Jordan was gonna have a 30ppg season the way he was looking before the injury at age 37 in one of the most deadballs era in league. Btw, I lived in DC around that time and that Wizards team was absolute dog shit other than rip and then Jerry but achieved what it did because of his greatness
Average bron fan delusional asf
These young boys WOULD rather go by THEIR opinions, than going by the FACTS that are presented right to their faces!!
Yaw can’t say he’s still in his prime but then say you can’t talk about the lakers 😂🤣😂
Facts
I enjoyed the reaction. I also appreciate the fact that these guys are Advent basketball fans, but listening to them talk they clearly don’t have the history and knowledge of the game which I would encourage them to seek out more of. A lot of the points that they are making is not based off of fact, but just feelings!
The whole vid they are talking, not listening waiting for a part where they can call bias. Fucking hilarious.
He need more help.
That's they favorite. Even tho he done played with more superstar talent than anyone ever.
But he still need help.
@@Ozem_Israel and more HOF PLAYERS
i wasn't a bulls fan or jordan fan but i had to admit that he was the best player, and remember he is the reason they allowed zone defense in the nba to make it easier to play defense
Your assessment is what a real fan would say even if he wasn't a fan of the bulls, because you know what you saw, and you saw these facts that were presented in this video also!!
Wilt holds 72 NBA records, he averaged 50 pts & 25 rbs per game for an entire season & 30 pts & 23 rbs per game for his career. He also lead the league in assist one year & played all 48 min of every game for an entire season. Trust me, he’s on mount roushmore
Facts
And that young gun saying Tim Duncan should be at Mt. Rushmore than Wilt. Even Tim would want to blow his face off of that mountain if his face would be there than wilt. His not even close..
@@dkmach1058 Timmy is the most humble superstar ever.
Underrated in my opinion and arguably the best teammate and franchise player of all time.
However, I do agree that Wilt is the better basketball player to put on there in terms of his dominance and unbreakable records.
Jordan was older in a wizards jersey than lebron is now and he was a way better defender than bron is now lol
Forget that he was older, he came back from 3 years of retirement. 3 years off, older and still put up numbers in a weak team.
That's right and when MJ was in the wizard if I'm not mistaken, the last 20 games before MJ got injured, he was averaging 27-29ppg and he was also one of the MVP candidates he was 39 or 40 yrs old at that time.
@@accshsmilgroup1408 damn didn't know that. Also Jordan is the oldest player to score 50 points in a game too I believe. Also before Jordan got hurt, the Wizards were in playoff contention too.
@@washburn11000 Yes. They were number 1 defensive team and offensive team in the east before he got hurt. With MJ's Robinhood in Wizard Richard Hamilton.
@@washburn11000 He also had the Wizards sitting at a potential 4-6 seed in the playoffs before his injury.
Another crazy stat, Jordan has at least a 40 piece on every franchise he's played against, and a 50 piece on every franchise in the East that he's played against.
Jordan is the goat
FACTS
MJ is the greatest to do it, seen Kobe, Bron, KD, Magic, Bird, etc... play their entire careers and Mike was just another level. A relentless offensive and defensive nightmare to the point he had other Hall of Famers having nightmares having to play him. Never have seen anyone rise to his level, would say Kobe came the closest.
Jesus Loves you and wants you to accept him as your Lord and saviour
You won't even call bron but kobe smh
@@Comedyvibes He does.....and he wants these three confused young men to also accept the obvious truth that MJ is the GOAT.
He never beat Bird in the playoffs, but he got his and Larry did have a much stronger team!
I agree 💯
"we havent seen a single MJ bad moment" exactly my boys...
1995 bulls vs magic playoffs
@@SonJosuke-oz5ru 2011 mavs vs heat lebron had the superteam mavs had just dirk; jj barea SHUT DOWN lebalco
lebalco scored just 8 (EIGHT) pts in one game and ave ONLY 17/gm after averaging 27 during the season... again'; no comparison jordan is just obviously better
I truely believe, that Jordan would have won 8 straight championships, if he would have not retired the first time and we wouldn't be arguing about this at all. GOAT.
MJ scored 96 total points in back to back games as a Wizard when he was 40 ish.
guys, i enjoy your reactions. I'm a Laker fan and LeBron is way better than I used to think he was. However, the stats aren't going to change if they show LeBron in a Cavs or Heat uniform. I watched Jordan play throughout his career. With defenses spread out the way they are today, he would easily average 40-45 points a game. Also, as a Laker fan I watched all of Kobe's career, and I'm giving the ball to Michael Jordan every time I need a basket.
He couldn't beat the nuggets this year..😊
@@jrprince6951 you are correct. However, I'm not sure why that matters. My point was that although LeBron is one of the best of all time, he's not the best.
paraphrasing but, to make a shot to save a game I'll pick Jordan, to make a shot to save my life I'll take Bird. That was Pat Rileys thoughts on that.
Fax
@@ApplePiezz No. Mostly due to his shot selection. LeBron rarely takes a bad shot. Kobe would pass up an open shot only to settle for a spinning fadeaway with time running out. But I loved Kobe's intensity and that he always played thru injuries.
Real Talk TV Before video: LeBron might STILL be in his prime.
Real Talk TV after seeing Lebron’s defense: Oh, that’s him in a Lakers jersey. He isn’t in his prime.
27:55 the BS starts....
Just like that stupid babble about Jordan still having to make 40% three-point shots, even though by the time Michael Jordan started basketball, there wasn't even a three-point line. So what kind of logic they showed here in part, just very, very weak.
Na he not.
@@Mister__Jey I agree 💯%!
My thing argument wen ever anyone brings up MJ n Shooting Threes is Simple whether they wanna accept it or not .... Those days 3 Point Shooters were Specialists, thts why we saw Kerr, Del Curry which is Steph n his Bro Dad, Miller, Paxson, Craig Hodges, Trent Tucker, Dan Marjle, Mark Price, Derlef Schremf, Jeff Hornacek, Kenny Smith, Robert Horry, Dirk a mean our era had Specialists so wen teams were down they subbed in their SPECIALISTS, their 3 Point SPECIALISTS now the game has changed so everyone wanna handle the Rock, + wht GSW brĵso thts why there's the Big Buzz with 3 pointers.
@@Mister__Jey Besides that Jordan was like a 36-38% shooter when he actually started taking 3s regularly...and not just when the line was shortened (when it actually went over 40%). He was actually a good 3 shooter when he tried. His averages were tanked because of his very early career when he wasn't shooting 3s and when he was older (35+). Otherwise he was well-above average in any era.
Numbers are not bias. Don't cry guys, it's OK. Lmao😂
That's what I was thinking hahaha, they are pissed! And these guys keep angling for a way to keep saying that LeBron is better than mj, but it's pretty evident that he's NOT! They said they don't like the way his name got bashed off of shooting, that's LeBron taking his shots and missing in the last 5 seconds of the game, what more proof do you need that he's only 20% in the last 5 seconds of a game, basically the clutch of the game WHEN IT REALLY counts!
"we haven't seen a single MJ bad moment", exactly, and you just explained to yourselves why he's he GOAT.
MJ in wizards jersey is good in Defense he averaged 4-5 rebounds and 1.5 steals per game and take note he is 40 years old that time. Lebron yesterday was demoralized by Andrew Nembhard #2 Pacers because his DEFENSE is SLOPPY.
What does "what jersey they showed" have to do with anything when he gave your their CAREER stats? That covers every team!
What you're experiencing is called "cognitive dissonance." It's when you want to believe in something SO bad, that you'll dismiss all facts and evidence that disproves it. That's why y'all couldn't accept anything that was said in this video.
I'm from Michigan. Born and raised. I absolutely HATE Micheal Jordan! I LOVED watching my Bad Boy Pistons send him home every year!!! And I've watched both his AND Lebron's careers in their entirety and it's not even CLOSE! Jordan was better by every metric. Even with the current use of analytics, Jordan is STILL better.
Trust me, I WANT someone else to be the GOAT so I can stop having to admit it's Jordan. But, I know what I saw with my own eyes. And the baddest man to ever step on that court, was MJ.
And this is coming from his biggest hater!
I’m this way about Kobe. I’ve been a Mavs fan and Kobe dominated against us year in and year out. He and MJ are about the only two players I’ve seen that when they got fired up, it was over. No defense was holding them.
I have respect for Kobe, MJ and Wade. They all played to win and gave up their body to do so. They always felt they had something to prove.
@@michaelwhite8119
Jordan said it best when he described Kobe.
"He's cursed just like I am. That "need" to win."
Key word being "need." It wasn't about the money. Wasn't about the endorsements, the popularity, the stats. They played as hard as they did because they HAD to win! And would do any and everything to ensure it.
Even if it costs them everything! For Kobe, his health. For Jordan, his friendships and even his marriage.
That indeed, sounds like a curse.
facts
In my opinion they are both the goats
Bad Boys 4 Life! Absolutely hated guys like MJ and Bird, but they earned my respect. What LBJ has been able to do is phenomenal, but his resume comes up just a bit short of Jordan’s.
There can be a major difference between cold hard facts and what you feel is right and that is where a lot of Lebron fans can't (or won't) make the distinction with any objectivity. Here is a fact for you, only four times in the history of the NBA has a player in the same season earned the following achievements:
Regular Season MVP
NBA Champion
Finals MVP
Scoring Title Champion
Selected onto the All NBA 1st Team
Selected onto the NBA All Defensive 1st Team
MJ was the player responsible for ALL four of those occasions and that is just one of the reasons as to why he is the GOAT.
Ohhh I'm adding this to my arsenal thanks bro 😂
He's also i think the only player to sweep the MVP triple crown (MVP, FMVP and ASMVP) twice. In 96 and 98.
I like that one sir👍🏽. Here’s another from 1990-1998 when MJ played for the Bulls they never lost more than two games in a row. These youngsters really don’t understand how silly this whole debate truly is.
Jordan also won all star game mvp and finals mvp in the same season as those
@@dpham247 ^^^
If Jordan and LeBron played at the same time, Jordan would make it his top priority to be #1. Even if LeBron was way better than Jordan in the beginning, Jordan would practice until he was the better player. He wouldn't accept being #2 and wouldn't let it happen. Jordan was the GOAT because he put in the time and effort to be the best player in the world. He would play 36 holes of golf in the afternoon, then drop 50 points in a game that evening. Not to mention game 5 of the '97 NBA finals where he had a 103° fever, and still got 38 pts, 7 rebounds, 5 assists, AND dropped the game-winning 3 pointer. Anybody else would have been in the hospital, but not the GOAT. 🐐
how to beat bron : let him shoot some jumpers
how to beat mj: don't talk shit to him...
When Jordan played for the Wizards he came out of retirement to help a weak team which he was invested with financially. LeBron made a career of finding the best players to team up with to increase his odds of winning a championship(Lakers as well). That needs to be considered.
Yup. LeBron was a ringchaser in his prime. A sugarbaby. MJ is the ultimate winner. LeBron fans are just that low standards.
I loved how a few times, y'all would say something against the video, and then the video would address it 😄 Oh, and the reason the video "didn't show negative MJ moments"... is because they barely exist. Really just poor shooting nights, or losing to a better team.
Spot on..
Or quitting in the playoffs or conference finals (quitting and defferring to another player), and quitting in finals.
Everything 😂
And the AI thing well so what everyone been crossed up by AI😂 I bet he woulda crossed lebron up too
@@stormcoates5120 if jason terry crossed lebron .. than ai would send him back to miami.. "goin to miami , YO TENGO A MIAMI" .. party in the city where the HEAT is on.. ".. ok jus kidding
All of Jordan’s numbers are also his wizards moments… they didn’t show him but they didn’t take out his stats from that time
Imagine his numbers if he doesn't go to the wizards 🌋🌋🌋🌋
You might not want Jordan's hair style (or lack of), but back in the day... there was even a song that said "Like Mike. I want to be like Mike!" He was a roll model for a generation.
"Stop showing him in a Lakers jersey."...If LeBron didn't hop from team to team to team, you wouldn't have that problem, LOL. That's another flaw to LeBron's career that this assessment didn't even mention. LeBron has used free agency to try to stack the deck in terms of his roster to help him win. MJ never had to do that because he didn't need "outside help" to win. Even when they added Dennis Rodman in 1995-96, Rodman was a misfit who wasn't a desired free agent among other NBA teams. He was a rebounder and defender with an attitude problem. Chicago was the only place he could have succeeded because of MJ's leadership and non-tolerance of the kind of shenanagins Rodman was known for at the time. MJ was the only player a malcontent like Rodman would respect.
No other player ever won 10 scoring titles and 9 all defensive 1st teams in 11 years, other than MJ. and during the 1st 3pt, Jordan had only 1 all-star teammate in Scottie pippin. 1 allstar was all he needed to 3peat. nothing Lebron or any other player has ever done can come close to touching that. It’s just the truth.
In a league filled with hall of famers
@@jlmusic1469 facts facts facts
well idk about that. Olajuwon did it with ZERO allstars on his team. but yeah MJ is the goat.
@@dr9660 Olajuwon didn’t do it while winning 10 scoring titles and 9 all defensive 1st teams in 11 years though. Its not just the championships. It’s the complete body of work in the short amount of time it took him to accomplish it.
Clyde
I love how when it got to the part where he highlighted how Bron has fallen off on the defensive end yall got so bent out of shape because he was showing Lakers highlights, but he then showed two back to back highlights of Bron on the Cavs slacking on defense, and then he showed MJ at 39 and 40 on the Wizards still busting his ass on the defensive end... hahahaha... yall can't say dudes are biased for MJ when those reactions prove yall are biased for Bron just the same lol... good video.
They acting like girls
Facts, just crying about them showing Lakers highlights. Yeah he's BEEN doing those things, they're saying it's getting worse. Lol🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Dude in blues last two brain cells are working overtime just to listen to the video. He’s clueless and missed 99% of it.
They won't discount the Laker's ring tho...bet they use that in Bron's favor lol
LeBron James started slacking off on defense before he joined the Lakers. He's just now at the point where his age can be a legitimate part of the excuse. Remember he last made a defensive team in Miami. MJ made All-defensive 1st team last at 35. Being one of the leaders in the league in minutes , scoring and still being a first team defensive player in your mid thirties and playing all 82 games plus the playoffs? They rarely make players like that anymore. You can make entire highlight videos just of LeBron standing on the opposite side of the court watching his team play 4 v 5 on defense. Defense is all about effort. Trying and failing is much different than failing because you didn't try. Jordan has multiple seasons with over 200 steals and 100 blocks including 2 with both. LeBron has never had a season with either.
Additionally he gives you the numbers to back up what he says. Ignoring them because you don't like what they say makes you biased. And remember that a lot of the numbers he gave INCLUDE the Wizards years which lowered his overall totals. Even with the Washington years dragging them down he still leads in many catagories and analytics. MJ coming back to play for the Wizards helped LeBron because now he isn't as far behind if we were just counting the Bulls years.
He fucking played all 82 games that first year with the wizards as an almost 40 yo! Jordan genetically is built different.
🎯🎯
And yet they don’t want to see LBJ in the LAKERS jersey lol man the LAKERS are a legacy organization. What jersey do you want him to have…Jordan put a wizards jersey to lead not to RIP.
@@punkem733He played all 82 games his last year. His first year with Wizards he got injured in Februari, continued to play 8 more games iirc before getting surgery.
@@Cain353 I know
I'm not that much a basketball fan , but in the Jordan era i used to set alarm clocks and wake the hell up to watch the Dreamteam , it was real.
Last shot...VC, MJ, Reggie, Bird, KD, Kyrie, Glen Rice, Robert Horry, Ray Allen
MJ is the G.O.A.T...he played in a way more physical era and if you looked at every single game he played, you would see him fly over every opposing player at some point..he had unparalleled instincts, could find holes in the defense and run straight to the basket...he pushed his team, built his team, left his team only when he retired (after losing his beloved dad) and then came back to 3 peat AGAIN! stats are important but it's the intangibles that make one a GOAT...he had a mental fortitude, work ethic, desire to win, and a love of the game that is unmatched in today's players...
No bias you hating young dudes. I see y'all can't handle the TRUTH!!!
Check his last 4th quarters in 1998 that guy was something else…He was a winner. And he played the same on the first game of the season as in the last he thrived while competing that was his fuel.
I support the Jordan case but this video is biased. Take the VORP example. Lebron has the edge there, but he says thats a cumulative stat so obviously its just about longevity. Instead, he says lets see VORP per season. And leads you to believe thats a fair comparison. But guess what? It is cumulative for a single season, too. Meaning who played the most games a season will have the highest score. Jordan played 12 season with 78 games or more, Lebron only 7. Still Lebron has 15 seasons in the top 100, MJ only 11.
They way things are presented, the way he choses the stats to use and the way he talks about them is biased. It sometimes feels like listening to Nick Wright arguing for Bron.
@@arguseyed9982 In other words longevity lmao
@@arguseyed9982 your comment is also not presenting full context. Lebron has 15 seasons in the top 100 and Jordan has 11 but Jordan has 6 in the top ten, 9 in the top 50 and every year he played in a Bulls uniform is in the top 100. Context matters a lot in all these discussions.
@@shaunmckenzie4046 lebron had 3
Not 15
It's not about what you see in the images of the video, is what he is saying, Jordan acolites support this difference between Lebron and him. And it's obvious that you get piss because you were talking too much instead of hearing, he didn't said "Lebron is a bad defender", he said "it's an inconsistent defender" that is true, not because he is bad, but because even in his prime had better seasons than others, in case of Jordan he was consistently all years a prime defender, that was the point.
I think LeBron has had the best career out of any player in the NBA because of his longevity and how he took care of his body. As far as how good he was in his absolute prime, though... He's in my top 10. Probably somewhere around 7 or 8. I'm not old enough to have seen Wilt, Bill Russell, or Oscar Robertson play, but of the people I can remember watching, I would put LeBron, prime for prime, behind MJ, Kareem, Magic, Kobe, Larry, and Shaq.
Y’all complaining about the lakers uniforms but, the stats are for their careers not just the video. STATS
Did y’all watch “Jordan’s underrated Wizard years”?
Jordan was beasting also , so yeah he was older but he never slacked on Defense
You guys just kept saying bias and "he got 27ppg on putbacks?" while the stats were on screen. Facts aren't bias. No he didn't get most of his points on putbacks, but the shots that he takes the most (1/3 of his shots) are within 3 feet.
They know what they was doing
The thing is why do all that just to defend another man in lebron James?
The what I’m curious about 🤔
Yea the only bias was the reactors.... excuse after excuse
If y'all actually just really listened to the info in the video then you would actually hear all of it before ASSuming that he is being biased or not or whether or not he's adequately giving you the details.
They literally talked thru the whole video, I feel like they didn’t even watch it🤣🤣
@@5634TY cause LeBron is their boy and don't like facts. FACTS over feelings like I always say..
@@5634TY In all their videos bro
I know Jordan the goat but the analysis was somehow biased
@Lockjaw How when he showed the numbers to support everything he said.
Prove it??
Hate to tell these guys this but stats can’t be bias or cap…. They’re just true
jordan averaged 25 in Washington BEFORE THE INJURY
So what they didn't show Bron in all his other Super Team uniforms, the important thing is they showed all the Stats to back up what points he proved.
The main problem besides the fact that y'all wanted so badly for Bron to be the GOAT is that y'all talked entirely too damn much over all the important Stats that y'all missed all of the facts entirely.
Next time y'all watch this...just watch it and be the Hell quiet through the entire video so you can clearly understand the points y'all claim he isn't showing when he clearly is.😡😡
At least pause the vid…. They bombarding over key stuff
i have probably watched a dozen reaction videos to the goat comparison and i absolutely love watching the cope and seethe from the people watching... everyone screams "its bias" or complaining about the lakers jersey but no one refutes the numbers
Yall gotta stop talking over videos dismissing shit when they are giving context. Oh and btw refererring to jordan as just "good" diminishes your opinion. Yall are literally reacting to a G.O.A.T (greatest of all time) video 🤦🏾♂️. Same thing goes for bron if u refer to him as just "good" how am I supposed to take you opinion and arguments serious.
Because these guys wouldn't shut tf up, I couldn't watch the entire video.
Summary of this video: Talking over facts, complaining about the jersey worn during a video clip and screaming bias when they did not consistently watch Jordan play.
Braids keep talking biased when he the most biased 😂
Dude was so triggered hahaha
They are Gen Z....they are media programmed
My boi pissed off 😂😂😂😂
Never seen so bias Lebron fans you guys clearly dont know nothing about real basketball
My man your braids are too tight if you got Jordan at number 3. Kobe patterned his whole game after MJ. Plus Kobe was way less efficient shooting.
😂anyone putting Jordan at 3 got no credibility
@@johnnytudor5576 straight foolishness
@@johnnytudor5576 They base it in there emotions watch there faces when Lebron has a highlight they lowkey smile, they hate MJ because he is the single player that Lebron cannot compete when it comes to legacy.
Also only 1 x season MVP and MVP 2 x finals MVP
Steph Curry patterned his game after his pop's, so does that mean Dell is the better player?
LeBron's the best athlete to ever play basketball biggest fastest strongest
Jordans the best basketball player to ever play most skilled silky smooth clutch
MJ is a just different breed.
You guys cared more about what jerseys he were showing lebron in than the numbers he was actually saying. All the facts went into 1 ear and out the other lol.
Nah wizards MJ was balling before his injury and the wizards were one of the best defensive teams in the NBA
The first year in LA LBJ was 34, in 1998 MJ was 34. Difference is MJ was all defense 1st team that year mean while LBJ was nearly horrendous defensively at points during his first year with LA. So showing LBJ in an LA jersey is relevant, especially if LBJ fans consider him to potentially still be in his prime.
Continuation: Michael post his prime, which i and others assert to be around 88-93, was still considered by many, during that 95-98 stretch, to be the best defender in basketball. While LBJ post his prime, which I assert and others, to be around 2007-2014, was never again, during that 2015-2019, considered to be the best defender in basketball. If anything during certain years of that stretch LBJ was at times considered to be in the bottom half when it came to defense.
98 jordan was 35
Your being selective with your points. By their respective age 34 seasons, LeBron had already played over 4 more entire seasons worth of NBA basketball with zero years off since 2003. Jordan was amazing but he took multiple years off and was a shell of himself even at a rested 38. The all time record for highest PPG for a year 20 player was 17ppg by Kobe, LeBron just shattered it by averaging almost 30ppg. Greatness is not only about achieving in a short time but ultimately defined by how long a player has been able to remain among the best in the world, And that is LeBron James for 20 years straight and is unprecedented in NBA.
@@MoSuli96 it is unprecedented now, but more and more players will get the same longevity checks that leflop gets, advancements in medicine, training, load management, not playing defence for half his years in the league, etc. Ofc he is going to play 20+ years ,In his entire career he only played 82 games once, ONCE! in 20 years.
Longevity means shit, you can put in a bucket a day for 40 years and pass everyone in the league but does that make you better than them? And not only that but he plays in a league with 0, 0! defense at all he never gets punched or thrown, he can practically stroll down the lane and just hoop.
Dude, yall keep crying about him being in a Lakers jersey but in beginning of video can't except he is out of his prime.... it's not bias. You guys missed a lot of the facts because yall was talking too much lol. I am a diehard Kobe fan but MJ is the GOAT.... PERIOD
Facts!! If they took the time to listen, they would have no reason to guestion the information presented!!
"Yo, I didn't see LeBron in his OTHER jerseys"! WE ALL saw "All-Time" STATISTICS! YOU GUYS are "THE BIASED" populous! The rules NOW make it a SOFT league with WIDE OPEN lanes and WAYYYYY EASIER shooting ability! Michael Jordan would light THIS league up with an average of 50 + points a game! Now, "YO" to THAT! 😂
🤣🤣 y’all crying for bad MJ clips… well he had to do bad to have clips 💀💀💀 he did bad yeah but not as often and blatant as y’all goat
Only one GOAT. 2011 only is too big of a blemish. Outplayed by an aging 6th man who called him out and proceeded to toast him the whole series. If Lebron’s attribute is that he “Guards 1-5” why didn’t he shut down or slow down Dirk?
And let's not forget how JJ Barrera and The Jet burnt LeBron
@@soldierviejo8224 Facts....that one.....that one right there .....that was the one that made it impossible for me to be the goat - Lebron James
@Cornpops Razor too bad only Armchair Ball Players are the only ones that think that crap.
The NBA League and over 99% of its' Best Players believe Jordan is the G.O.A.T.
Funny, I don't see a trophy named after the Fake goat aka Sheep LBJ
@@soldierviejo8224 Preach it. People just live in the moment now.....every shot is the new greatest shot...every win.....every pass....till tomorrow.
Or JH Barrera and the Jet Terry for that matter.
73-9 may have been a good record but 72-10 has a better ring on it
Very nice comment.
Honored to be the 23rd like.
Facts plus they won the chip also
+ that's part of the second 3 peat
I love how annoyed they got especially center dude def one of my fav reactions so far
MJ changed the paradigm of the game from the game revolving around big men (forwards and centers) to revolving around him and the Guard position…he came into the league with his own Blueprint and also revolutionized the game….MJ was also the ultimate consummate pro hardly ever missing a game and playing through injuries today’s elite players can’t play all 82 games…no one is going to top MJ in this lifetime.
MJ the GOAT, and that’s FINAL 😊
Ya wrong tho MJ won his last title at 36 yrs old with bulls. Lebron been with Lakers since he was 33 yrs old playing suspect defense..Mj was 39 and 40 yrs old with the wizards..and still playing D. If lebron was not playing D at 34 or 37 he damn sure ain't gonna play D at 40 like MJ lol no comparison. Why do ya compare mj wizards years to lebron laker years 🤔 Mj was still hoppin and winning at the age lebron was with Lakers. Stop giving lebron excuses lol
MJ was a treat to watch! His mentality is night and day different than LBJs. I wanted to see KD vs LBJ for many years, but both backed down from the challenge sadly! MJ NEVER backed down! He was a killer! I feel bad for the kids who didn’t see the best sports era ever.
I'd rather have LJB than LBJ
these guy dont even know how old MJ was when playing for his 2nd 3 peat and then give excuses for lebron's laker years. LEBRON WAS 34 WHEN HE WENT TO THE LAKERS. MJ WAS 33 WHEN HE STARTED HIS SECOND 3 PEAT. making excuses for 20 years and cant listen when facts are being told. typical lebron fan behavior. u guys r youtubers. either u can bring ur own facts and debate this or u can listen to facts. u keep saying dangerprods is biased. so r u guys. u guys making excuses based on ur feelings and emotions rather than facts. thats female arguing methods.
If Michael Jordan played in the NBA today with No Hand Checking on Defense, Load Management, all the Soccer Flopping and lazy minded players, and all the rule changes that softened up the game...he would be averaging appx. 25 - 30 a game...and that is only because he is 60 years old.
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Never thought about it like that🤣🤣🤣
I'm dead 😂🤣
I was about to say 25-30?! 🤨 but then I kept reading lol he’d average 50+ if he was in his prime with today’s rules
Bro MJ was still good in a wizards jersey and almost 40 years old. I really don’t think y’all know what your talking about! 😂😂
Forget about the jersey boys your looking at the facts of the MJ vs LB. Let's not forget he made wearing sneakers cool worldwide. Watching Michael in the 90s was insane. The man was on another level. In all honesty Michael would break Lebrons will. Give MJ any lip? And he will destroy you! Look at what he does at like 6.6ft, he runs rings around everyone. Even Shaq was terrified of Michael
No doubt Michael Jordan' is the GOAT. Nobody is even close
Correction there wasn't a lot of teams that joined it was only a few but even at that , jordans Era was still tougher.
Jordan and none of his team mates ever flopped. Jordan would of ripped out their souls if they tried to pull that child like crap.
The beginning of the video says it all: When your good,you'll tell everyone. But when your great,everyone will tell you 👍
Don’t forget, mj won his last title at 36 of age. So you say prime . Its just his killer mentality and his nature to be the best who separates him grom the rest. Not to mention his skillset!!
He’s the greatest ever!! No doubt!!
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Kobe took his game from Jordan
If y’all aren’t sure if his prime is over RIGHT NOW or not, how is it not fair to talk about him in his Lakers jersey?
Awww man why I click on this, these young dudes about to hate all true statements bout Bron 🤣😂😂 haven’t seen a youngin yet like this video 💀 about to be hilarious how y’all gone try and save Bron from these truths
I really enjoyed when they came close to exploding over seeing a lakers jersey over some bias that the two men’s stats were. MJ all day as the GOAT.
I'm a die hard Lakers fan... but how do you say Kobe was more clutch than Jordan. And more clutch than Bird???
I'm lost for words.
Wilt and Russell don't get enough love by these young guys. I watched some of wilts games when he we oung and he was God like. Would have killed to see prime shaq and wilt go at it
@@NegativeBananya yeah wilt was a freak of nature
These guys:Lebrons the Goat. Also these guys: Yea I'd have Mj taking the last shot
People who saw both say Its Jordan.. people who say its Lebron, only saw Lebron.
There is so much you see when you watch nba as it happens. Highlights don't show build up, pressure, hype, intensity.. you don't see the game in game out toughness of a team through highlights. I cringe when young fans actually attempt to discredit Jordan's competition. If you watched both, you see the lack of defense, physicality and intensity between competitors today.
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They know the word bias but they don’t know the proper usage of it especially when context is given 😂😂😂
FYI LeBron ran a 40y/dash in 4.6, Jordan ran it in 4.3.
in the last 24s MJ was 50% in the clutch and 45% in the last 10s
Ei atleast them boys are honest that they can’t accept facts😅
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Has Michael Jordan lost a playoff series?
Those 8 years are still considered iconic and will be forever because of the stature of what MJ and the Bulls achieved. The Bulls, with Jordan, lost just 1 playoff series out of the 26 they competed in during this era. That 1 loss came in 1995 after Jordan had returned from his 1-year hiatus from basketball.Aug 5, 2022
@Michael Scofield bro anybody would have decided to leave Cleveland including the person who likes to win more than anyone (mj)
@@pass_me_d_blunt1298 those Cleveland teams were far better than what Jordan was playing with his first five seasons, so if Jordan wouldn't leave a worse Bulls team then he definitely wouldn't have left a Cleveland team that had another Allstar. The very first season that Jordan played with an Allstar, he won the Finals and never looked back.
There is a reason you don't see many bad MJ moments. lol When you watched MJ back in the day, it was something special. You very rarely saw him ever take a play off. You would have never caught him trying to kick someone running by. And if someone beat Jordan on a play, or tried to punk him, you knew you were about to see something amazing from Jordan in return.
Man... ya'll got so triggered by the clips he was showing that you lost track of what he was saying. Everything he said was pretty spot on.
Yeah they just talked over half the video. Annoying asf.
Why do a reaction video if you’re not even going to listen to half of it. Makes you look super emotional rather than logical.
"Lebron is just different brah. He just different."
Words spoken by people who didn't watch Jordan play. Every. Single. Time. Some of us are old enough to have seen both of their careers since the beginning...
So does his championship in a lakers jersey count?
"Lebron averaged 30 last year"
Yeah and last year they averaged like 130ppg. In the 80's and 90's it was in the 90ppg range. So scoring 30 a game was much more impressive then, or even at the beginning of LeBrons career, than now.
I'm a mj fan I never looked at it like that. And it was also crazy heavy defence so even more impressive
Depends on the period you're looking at. Late 80s they would score on avg almost as much as they scored in the past 5 years or so (except for maybe last season, which was insane). Those numbers started to decline a bit in the early 90s, but were still higher than in the first half of LeBron's career. The real decrease started in the 2nd half of the 90s and continued throughout the 2000s until the early 2010s. Then gradually after 2015 thngs picked back up again, to reach that insane 114 ppg average this past season. I don't think this is an argument against LeBron, although I didn't calculate the average between LBJ and MJs career years. That's probably still a bit higher for LeBron, but I don't think it influences that much. What does influence instead is those under 3feet, over 3feet shooting numbers, where it's obvious from the percentages, but also from volumes thay LeBron is a player with a limited bag compared to MJ, Kobe and others. You cannot deny LeBron has one dominant style (and I don't care if he creates his shots or not): he's a buldozer and he's eficient from close range only
Damn u see lebron on defense how sorry Mike was chasing down blocks at age 40
Y'all talking so much y'all didn't even hear that Jordan shot the League average
...attention span. Bad public schooling education.
Also to add Jordan on the wizards in his last year played in all 82 games as a 40 year old. That person loved the game and makes sure, anyone that bought a ticket would get to see him play, not like other's we know. You also do not have to like the guy, but facts are facts, go look up the stats for yourself and see the type of shot lebron takes 0-3 feet.