11:48-11:52 That's factually incorrect. MJ is one of the greatest off ball players in NBA history. The Triangle Offense literally utilized his off ball movement to give great ball movement. >Usage rating doesn't mean you have the ball in your hand. Usage rating measures how many plays ran through you. Meaning that even if you were playing off the ball (which MJ did a lot), any play that went through you counts towards your usage rating. >MJ has the highest usage rating of all time, becuase plays ran through him more than any other player in NBA history. Which is a testament to his impact on the team. That doesn't hurt his case. That makes his case.
RealTalk TV Reactions - see, this right here is real talk. Listen to and absorb with an objective mind, the content to the videos, and you would understand this and things such as this too. To falsey believe and/or conclude, and then to go on to actually say with a straight face - and post on TH-cam no less; an audience of millions - that Michael Jordan didn't and/or couldn't play off the ball -- frankly, it exposes you as (and please take no offense when I say this; just to point out from a critical standpoint -- complete and utter novices. Casuals. Because amongst many, many other traits, skillsets, you mame it - Jordan is arguably (probably) the greatest, most skilled, very best off ball player who has ever lived up to this point in time.
@@ssang187 Yes. That's what makes MJ so special -One of the most prolific scorers -One of the best finishers -One of the best post up players -One of the best long range shooters -One of the best mid range games -One of the best at stealing the ball -One of the best shot blocking and rebounding guards ever. -One of the best man to man defenders ever. -Yet passes morethan most prolific scorers (one of 4 retired players averaging 25+ points and 5+ assists for his career) -Is a great help defender -Very durable. Playing 82 games 9x and 80+ games 11x. -And wins at such a high level. Winning 2 3 peats, no game 7s, and not taking 3 Ls in a row for a record 626 consecutive games. -3x gold medalist, NCAA champion, and 3x ACC conference champion
They also talk over important points and then draw conclusions based on half of what they heard or based on admitting they don’t even know the players. It’s not old heads being biased to talk about the context of the 86 Bulls losing to the Celtics because the Bulls roster totally sucked while the Celtics that year are one of the best all time, along with the 87 Lakers, 83 Sixers, 96 Bulls etc. That’s not bias; it’s being a student of the game and actually knowing teams, even if they were before your time like the mid 80s teams are for me. It’s why I don’t hold it against Lebron that he didn’t make the playoffs his first 2 years because his team sucked and got swept in the finals by San Antonio in the 2007 finals when he was only 22. I don’t expect a 22-23 year old to lead his team to the promised land and neither Jordan nor Lebron did it on their teams. So if you lost to the mid to late 80s Lakers or Celtics or the mid 2000s Spurs with a prime Duncan with an only okay team of your own you don’t deserve the critical onslaught for losing to the best. For Jordan’s teams Pippen also wasn’t Pippen as talked about now until ‘90 as he wasn’t even an all-star before then; he was a developing talent with athleticism and a defensive presence who had legitimate issues with his mental toughness he needed to overcome. And Grant was solid but only an all-star one year so he wasn’t on a Bosh level all-around like Lebron had in Miami or Rodman level on defense that Jordan had in his second 3peat. In the end these guys not being familiar with team rosters and such is fine, but if they don’t know they can’t make judgments like oh but it’s Jordan right? Nah, just like it wasn’t on Lebron to even make the playoffs his first 2 years or defeat an amazing Spurs team in 2007 with a solidly mediocre Cavs team which, while better than the 86 bulls roster, still wasn’t anything to write home about.
I am an old head who watched M.J. since college and I've seen Kobe and LeBron play. The thing the young heads don't realize is when we say Jordan is the goat, it's not being biased because WE have seen all these players play, live, and our eyes don't lie. It's actually the opposite. The young heads are biased because they have never seen M.J. live, so how can they say Lebron is better, we seen all of them play live. Our assessments hold more weight.
@@nathanmckenzie904 I dont see why you need to know why I think so, I just told you that the other 2 players, most commonly that people try to put in a clash with him, are also overhyped. And I never said his "game was overrated" but his stats are definitely bloated, and look better than they actually are, his stats to me are the most misleading stats of any player I have ever seen, up to the point of current day players from the 2010s and later atleast.
Shaq beat them one time in a deep playoff series. Michael Jordan came back the next year and beat the fucking brakes off them sweeping them four games to zero and beating them on an average of 17 points. Rodman held Shaquille O'Neal to 2 points in a half. Shit was brutal
I can't believe these goofballs. You're a fan of a player who gets the "he didn't get help" excuse EVERY time he loses. Keep that same losses are losses energy for LeExcuse James please 😆
Back in the 80's and 90's Michael Jordan made a lot of professional Basketball players look like as if they were in High School. Put MJ in the NBA today and he would make them look like as if they are in grade school.
So MJ played”a young Shaq”, age 23, I guess Lebron beat “old” KD, age 23, “old”Westbrook age 23 and “old” Harden age 22. Youngins take a chill pill and just listen and learn.
@@gangstagummybear3432 that's like saying MJ dropping 63 on celtics isn't impressive since bird wasn't his direct comp at his position, it was still impressive enough for bird to call him black Jesus
@@jonnstewart2023yes while people were talking about bird and magic potentially being the goat or joint goats, they were both talking about Jordan being god.
He has the highest usage rate ever but yall talked over the fact he has the highest efficiency rating ever as well. He was more effective w/ the ball in his hands than any other player ever statistically. Therefore the ball in any other players hands tht ever played would be less efficient. & idc about if he's goat or not.
Yeah, cause he was playing against trash d, and players that could actually guard him in his position didnt start showing up til the 90s, but he accumulated alot of this points that went into that "high efficiency" you people love bragging about in the time before that.
@@gangstagummybear3432 Yeah "trash players" who could fold U in half and throw U into a can! 🤣 WTF are u talking about?!? I rather have ppl guarding me who are defensive beasts than mofos who can bust me up every time I go in the paint. Keep that TWO 1-4 and TWO 0-4 records of Lebron and at least twice that I remember he quit on his team and compare it with a few sweeps of Jordan in playoffs while he gave it all and NEVER ever quitted... and btw since U mentioned MJ's scoring dominance in 80s messing up his true stats, Do U do the same when U falsely argue that Lebron made more finals at least compared to Jordan? So losing (getting swept) in finals is better than in first round, while the sole reason for U making to the finals is that U played against a whole conference of TRASH! freakin cake walking until U see a real mfkng team and losing over and over again! Lebron fans are the worst!!! I swear that a 5 yr old kid has more sense and is less ignorant than yall
@@upfront2375 If the defense was good in the 80s and even early early 90s, why was the primary method of guarding a "good" player, clotheslining them or any other form of melee combat? Cause their defense was actual trash.
@@gangstagummybear3432 Nope it wasn't bcoz their defense was trash, it was simply bcoz they were ALLOWED to closeline and be very physical. Same like these players today travelling left and right specially with those side step and step back jumpers, they do it bcoz it's NOT called by refs anymore... simple as that. The only things that got better in new era is shooting long jumpers and overall physical abilities(also longevity) thanks to medical advances and new studies in nutrition
14:20 People forget: Jordan would badly twist his ankles during a game 2-3 times a season. He would leave the game, get iced, taped up and would always return in the 4th. Only injury that stopped him from returning to a game was the broken foot his second year. p.s. I got to see the 🐐 play three times 🙌🏽 Twice in 96
Jordan started as Point Guard for 10 games and here are his Stats: participated in the last 24 games of the season as a point guard and averaged 30.4 points, 10.7 assists, 9.2 rebounds and 2.4 steals per game. This player also scored 12 triple-doubles. But y'all said him being "off the ball" was his deficiency.....just imagine if he stayed Point Guard his entire career.
But the next year, he swept the magic. I'd say Jordan got his chance to dominate Shaq. Moreover, the infographic of Jordan's final's opponents isn't quite accurate because Jordan had to beat most of his toughest opponents in the Eastern Playoff before he played the finals. In the 90's, most of use often called the ECF the finals because it was just so much better than the West, especially in the second 3 peat.
@@stevenaleman7454 That was Shaq in his rookie year saying that he didn't want to get dunked on. I'm sure that thought continued until Jordan ran him out of the Eastern Conference after the sweep of Orlando in 1996.
That’s a fact. Shaw is on that list too! From going to the finals the year before and beating MJs Bulls to getting swept 🧹 by the same team next year. No bueno.
Michael Jordan's life is like a written script from a movie. He was cut from his high school team, but later became the hero of his college team in 1984, when he made the final basket in the championship game. He enterd the NBA as the third draft pick, only to become the most phemomenal rookie ever to play in the NBA. After seven years in the NBA he won his first ever NBA Championship and repeated it twice. After the tragic death of his father he decided to retire from Basketball and continue to play baseball for about 18 months. Then he returned and lost during the NBA Playoffs against the Orlando Magic. A lot of people back then called him old and not fit to continue. But after that he and the Bulls won another three consecutive Championships in a row. Something no team had ever been done before.
Jordan is the GOAT. Beyond stats, his presence and leadership takes him over the top. Plus it's just beauty. When you see it you know it's how it is in it's purest form.
Certain people were born to do certain things, I FULLY believe Jordan was born to play basketball. He is the undisputed goat to me, everyone else is in the running for second but tbh Bird is above most others
And shot about 4 a game. Rarely any impact on a game unless the matchups called for it. Which is just like all the legendary shooters casuals think roamed all over the Bulls locker room.
When listening to these young men it’s hard to explain that 80’s and 90’s was a tough era with all sports. The object of football was to hit someone as hard a you could and basketball was a test of your “will”. Jordan wanted people that was ready to go to battle. I used to be hard a core basketball and football fan. When I look, I realize football and basket are two totally different game from those times. Example, no quarterback in the 80’s or 90’s would ever play as long a Brady because of the physicality and what you were allowed to do. So to compare him or any other players of the present to those times is unfair. Now sports is entertainment not purely the sport. 💯
No hate. But, all I see you all making childish argument - talking over when the video was making a point, laughing at any simple things that came with your head, especially the guy in the left, etc. Please make a valid argument.
His usage rate is the highest because until Phil Jackson came around and implemented the triangle, Jordan’s usage rate was outrageous. He moved the ball around and played off ball throughout the entire 90s but his usage rate was so high in the 80s that he still is the all time usage rate leader
Facts it was Tex Winters but most of these people that makes comments run straight to the Phil Jackson but they failed to acknowledge that Phil Jackson had not won a damn thing just like Jordan had not won a damn thing and the won championship together
@@redhotmamakennels7738 A coach does more than draw plays on a chalkboard. Winter brought in the system but Phil made Jordan call people out who were open that he wasn't passing to. I know some of you don't want to give Jackson his credit but I'd like to see anyone else besides Phil handle those teams, especially the 2nd 3peat.
@@mpound97 that’s 💩 is a lie..Phil ain’t do 💩 but manage certain soft egos like Pippen. MJ made everyone better and MJ’s scoring went up slightly during Phil’s first year etc.Bulls went to the eastern conference finals with Doug and went a game further with Phil the following year..you know why? Cuz MJ supporting cast was still 💩 and that’s including the overrated as fk Pippen. Pippen is the reason they didn’t get for the finals in 89&90
Yeah, he said he was pushing his team to be better, to toughen them up, to be able to take on someone like the Bad Boy Piston's, to bring out the big dog in them. Didn't he specifically say it was because he didn't want his team to be easily walked over so he went hard on them in practice.
It was so much politics going on early in Jordan's career. Not one player in the league could beat Jordan in a one on one by the time he was in his third year. Now when Jordan was on top he got all the calls. But talking about how Jordan losing early in his career, was really due to basketball politics. Most of the rule changes are because of Jordan when the NBA got tired of the physical nature of the game. Pistons just hacked the hell out of Jordan. That wasn't basketball. It was just bullying. But Jordan even overcame that. And he played every game. None of this load management crap.
Damn the bias is real. Plus what was the point of watching the video when ya'll talked thru the whole thing missing several points. Another thing, The bulls swept Orlando the following year when MJ had a full season.
I was gonna go in on what they said about Hodges and about Jordan not beating Shaq and some other things that was said ... Instead I went to the comments.... Y'all covered it. I was in my mid twenties when Jordan came into the NBA...saw him beat my Lakers.... Jordan IS the GOAT 🐐... I just wish this younger gen... would do the homework...and not talk over the narrator. At least, stop the clip...then react... especially when it's more than one reactor. They sometimes miss a valuable point.
Dude, he won a championship THE NEXT YEAR with the EXACT SAME DUDES you were saying "what are you gonna do with those guys?" Pippen is a HOFer, Horace Grant was an All-Star, Cartwright was a former All-Star, and Hodges was the best 3 point shooter in the league at that time. Same with his later team... Harper was a former PERENNIAL All-Star, Kerr retired as the best 3 point shooter in league HISTORY, Kukoc coming off the bench who could close out games, and they were the only team in the league at the time with 3 HOFers in their prime (due to the talent dilution of the expansion which "coincided" with Jordan's era of dominance). Once the 80s dynasties succumbed to expansion drafts (Pistons), age (Lakers) or injury/tragedy (Celtics), the Bulls were CLEARLY the best team in the league. Nobody even took them to 6 games in the Finals!
Fellas. Love your guys' personalites. But word of advice. You can pause and comment, but when the video is playing, listen - I mean really listen, to the commentary on the actual subject matter, the specific content that predominately gravitates/filters your viewers to you, and your shit (shit, meaning your reaction videos) will be an appreciable fuck-ton better; ya'know, more credible. Do that and you'll quickly realize the objectively ill-conceived notion that LeBron or any other baller before, then and since, was more spectacular/increidble/special than Mike. To even so much as entertain the mere notion that LeBron James of all players, is anywhere near as spectacular, phenomenal, impressive - all in all good as this man, Michael Jordan, rightfully disqualifys you in the eyes of any and every tried and true serious, knowledgeable basketball fans. No cap
Jermaine Zinnerman 4 days ago I can't believe these goofballs. You're a fan of a player who gets the "he didn't get help" excuse EVERY time he loses. Keep that same losses are losses energy for LeExcuse James please 😆
18:40 Craig Hodges was a 3point assassin back then. He was blacklisted in the league for his problack stance, handing a letter to the President, as the team met him at the White House Horace was one the best rebounder in the league back then. Easy top 5. A few nights, he had a double double in points and rebounds.
I'll give you the first time for the team but the second time Shaq and his team was swept. As you said Mike knows what happened when he came back. Orlando got swept and Shaq went to LA
No dissin or discriminating, but most of the time reaction vids like these, they watch the highlights, criticize what they don't like and don't even justify those criticisms. Doesn't matter who they beat? Oh man..
It’s not biased the Celtics had 5 hall of famers on that team it’s a fact they are considered the best all time teams. Bron can’t shoot that’s why he can’t get over the hump and he can’t consistently defend
Obviously ya'll didn't learn comprehension. If he was the 3rd pick on a team with nobody & a team that had a history of not having nobodies & a more physical league. They shouldn't have been there but were. Give Jordan the talent LeBron had his 2nd yr Jordan winning it if playing this defenseless era
Birds Celtics team had 5 Hall of Famers, the fact you hold that against him but excuse Bron being SWEPT in the Finals, it took Bron 2 years to even make the playoffs. Jordan made the playoffs every year he was a Bull. Y'all talk bias but are the ones being biased
MJ was not ball dominant he played off the ball plenty. The triangle was designed to help him as a slasher not just a Iso player! His usage rate is so high because of his elite defense which Luka can only dream of matching!
For the guy with the two ponytails, he’s wayyyy too loud and does not seem to stop talking over the videos. He continues talking when you two stop and are trying to hear what the narrator of the video is saying. He doesn’t seem to really be interested in basketball or like he knows much about the game. If he could work on those things, that would be great. Other than that, you guys videos are cute cutes! Please Keep em coming!!!😇
Y’all buggin. Scottie definitely was the playmaker for the bulls. He was one to the Robinson point fowards. He was their primary passer and essentially their point guard. Craig Hodges was a okay play. He was a really good shooter. He won 3x 3pt competitions. But that’s about all he did. Lol As far as wilt, u can’t just look at highlights and assume he had no comp because the highlights make him look dominant just like any other highlights make stars look dominant. Stars that are dominant always make the players guarding them look trash. And if u don’t know the people guarding him,buoy would only assume he had no comp and everything was easy but that’s not the case. If u watch the highlights and look at the resumes of some of the guys from that era like Walt Bellamy who still has the highest scoring average for a rookie of all time, or Nate Thurmond who has the first quadruple double of all time, or elvin Hayes who has tte second most points for a power foward ever and is top 5 in rebounds all time I believe, You would know how great some of wilts comp actually was. It was just the fact that he was so much greater that he made hof talent look bad. Go watch a shaq highlight video and what do you see? Him dunking on and bodying the likes of Duncan, kg, Yao, Hakeem, Robinson, dikembe, etc. if u didn’t know those guys and the video was in black and white, what would u think? The same thing u think of wilt right? You’d say shaq is too big and strong and that he had no comp. Plus he was NOT just dunking the ball and laying it up. The vast majority of wilts points actually came from fadeaways.
Jordan the Goat best player ever no second or third the one and only all Caps every shot every took is trash unless Mike took the shot Jordan just saying and its true not playing Okay now we got that out the way
He’s not bias Lebron fans use MJ losing to the Celtics in 86 as a reason to discount him on a horrible Bulls team (Pippen wasn’t on the team). Comparing Lebron’s team that lost in the finals to GSW doesn’t match up.
Here's the answer to your question. Why would they allow him to play 1vs1 instead of double teaming him? 2 reasons. 1. He was an underrated passer and will make you pay. (Steve Kerr John Paxson shot) 2. Pride. There were teams and players in that era that thought they could guard MJ on a single coverage. It was a psych thing
11:41 Usage rate isn't reflective of the average time a player possesses the ball; rather, it's simply a metric designed to determine the percentage of a team's plays --- that resulted in a field-goal attempt, free-throw attempt, or turnover --- that a player was involved in. Ball-dominance doesn't equate to high usage rate. Take, for example, Magic: one of the three greatest ball-dominant players ever, yet he isn't even in the top 200 highest career usage rates. Anyone who studied/studies MJ's game and career (that is, they've graduated from the realm of highlight-watching to the practice of film-studying) with the remotest degree of scrutiny knows that MJ is undoubtedly one of the five greatest off-ball players in NBA history. No high-level scorer has ever approximated his mastery of off-ball movement and scoring, skills that lent greatly to his winning six championships in an offense as notoriously abstruse as the Triangle system. My suggestion? Watch his games. Reading our comments can only do so much for your understanding.
These guys really said high usage rate = Jordan is poor offball. Dudes really think Jordan is like Harden/Westbrook level off ball lmao, he's closer to Steph off ball than he is Lebron off ball. I am also not one of these "old heads" hating either, still in my 20's, the difference is I actually went back to watch some of Jordan's games, not just making assumptions about the players. Full games btw, not highlights.
Once again MJ played in the hardest era in the NBA and like I mentioned in your last video MJ played against 25 1st Ballot HOF name 20bin LeBron Era right now. No disrespect to the show at all 🙏🏾💯
Tim Duncan a 5 time champion and beat lebron 4 to 1 in the finals against Miami not flashy but 20 points per game and 10 rebounds in career goat status
Bryon Russell told Jordan in 1994 that so bad he was retired to play baseball that he play against him he could stop him. That is why he is playing one on one in the last possession of the game. He was supposed to be the Jordan stopper 🤣🤣🤣
And for the record the 86 Celtics are seen as on off the greatest teams ever for several reasons… they won 68 games without trying… they were top 3 in every offensive and defensive category and they avg more ppg then the 73 win GS team…& that team actually won the chip
Craig Hodges was a three-point specialist. He could come off the bench cold and rain three's. Bill Cartwright was your center, Horace Grant was the power forward then Pippin. great line up.
I can tell that None of you were alive when he was playing. I constantly see people making statements about Michael's game without thorough research. Too often I hear someone say "I didn't know that about Michael!" That is what the passage of time does to the game. Do you Realize that Ron Harper was a defensive monster? Both he and Michael are 6' 6. I'm shocked that you don't know about Craig Hodges. Craig Hodges is the only other player besides Larry Bird to win the 3 point contest 3 times. Do you realize how physical they used to get with Chamberlain? The reason you're not seeing hands put up is because they knew they could do little to stop him on a fast break. He was too fast too strong and too powerful. You had to get him when he was in the post. Even Bill Russell knew that.
20:03... yall missing the point. What he is saying is that people clown MJ for getting swept by the Celtics in the first round... yet excuse LeBron for getting swept by the KD Warriors in the Finals. When they are bascially the same thing. The only difference is Mj ran into the Super Team in the first round, while LeBron got face Gilbert Arenas, and a weaker East... before finally reaching that Super Team in the Finals. MJ facing the Celtics in the first round in 85 is the equivalent of LeBron facing that Spurs team in 2007 in the first round. Bron was just lucky enough tonot be in the West in 07
Lol I had to add. Bros y’all seriously just clowned the bulls starting 5. The Celtics had 5 hall a famers on there team. Jordan or not no one expecting them to win.
Commenting as I watch. Bros he can say shaq. Yes the magic won when MJ came back after almost 2 years of playing BASEBALL and played 17 out of 82 games before the playoffs. But….. the very next year Bulls swept them. After MJ lost to them the first time he told the team they wasn’t having a summer break. He gave them 2 weeks and said it’s time to get to work. That was the year they won 72 games and swept the Magic. That speaks to MJs greatness.
Come on scottie at one point top 5 player in the league great 2 way player at 6 foot 9 he's not a role player he's a hall of fame player please respect him
What truly set MJ apart from the rest was his defense which was every bit as ferocious as his offense. I think that he took more pride in his defense than he did in his offense. One thing that you guys are wrong about is that the Bull's offense was run through Pippen quite a bit. Scottie played a version of a point forward that was truly ahead of it's time!
Jordan is definitely a top 3 Defensive Guard of all time. And the craziest thing is that Pippen and Rodman were both better defenders than Jordan. Bulls really had the greatest defensive roster ever.
Never seen such a group of guys who really don’t know basketball. Jordan lost to the magic after coming out of retirement and playing 19 regular season games then came back and swept the Magic the next year.
Can anyone show me Phil Jackson record,coach of the year, championship before coaching the bulls. He got decorated because he was coaching the best player ever. There is a video on the bench when he is giving instructions to the team,and finish by looking to his left and MICHAEL. And that was it. You can said they learn how to win together. On this video said that MJ all he did was over shoot the ball and not passing the ball right. That MJ was just a scorer. Or all around Basketball player. 1987 playoffs Cleveland MJ 45.2pts 5.4rb 4.8ast 2.8stl SP 10.6pts 5.2rb 2.4ast 0.8 stl Detroit MJ 27.4pts 8.8rb 4.6ast 2.0stl SP 9.5pts 5.2rb 2.4ast. 0.8 stl 1988-89 Cleveland MJ 39.8pts 5.8rb 8.2ast 3.0stl SP 15.0pts 8.6rb 4.0ast 1.6stl New York MJ 35.7pts 9.5rb 8.3ast 2.5stl SP 14.2pts 7.0rb 4.8ast 1.5stl Detroit MJ 29.5pts 5.5rb 6.5ast 2.0stl SP 9.7pts 9.3rb 3.0ast 1.5stl 1989-90 Milwaukee MJ 36.8pts 8.0rb 7.0ast 2.5 stl SP 22.5pts 9.3rb 8.0ast 2.8stl Philly MJ 43.0pts 6.6rb 7.4ast 4.0stl SP 20.8pts 6.8rb 6.3ast 1.5 stl Detroit MJ 32.1pts 7.1rb 6.3ast 2.1 stl SP 16.6pts 6.3rb 3.7ast 2.0stl 1990-91 MJ decided to focus on his teammates New York MJ 29.0pts 4.7rb 6.0ast 2.7stl SP 19.7pts 8.7rb 5.0ast 3.3stl Philly MJ 33.4pts 8.0rb 7.0ast 1.8stl SP 23.4pts 9.4rb 6.0ast 1.6stl Detroit finally Pippen step up to the plate MJ 29.8pts 5.3rb 7.0ast 2.3stl SP 22.3pts 7.8rb 5.3ast 3.0 stl Lakers MJ 31.2pts 6.6rb 11.4ast 2.8stl SP 20.8pts 9.4rb. 6.6ast 2.4stl
These guys are not listening. They just watch and think that they can get the full picture from highlights. Jordan built himself, improved until he had no weaknesses, evolved when his athleticism declined, built his teammates through tenacity and accountability, taking responsibility for failures and sharing victory, playing every game, and keeping the rivalries on the court. He did all this while eating McDonalds, smoking cigars, and drinking. Imagine he did not do those things and actually slept 8 hours. If you haven't I recommend you watch Angry Old Hoops fan, Sports and Fitness, and Uncommon Cents for truth on fake debate.
11:48-11:52 That's factually incorrect. MJ is one of the greatest off ball players in NBA history. The Triangle Offense literally utilized his off ball movement to give great ball movement.
>Usage rating doesn't mean you have the ball in your hand. Usage rating measures how many plays ran through you. Meaning that even if you were playing off the ball (which MJ did a lot), any play that went through you counts towards your usage rating.
>MJ has the highest usage rating of all time, becuase plays ran through him more than any other player in NBA history. Which is a testament to his impact on the team.
That doesn't hurt his case. That makes his case.
These guys don't know anything about basketball
RealTalk TV Reactions - see, this right here is real talk. Listen to and absorb with an objective mind, the content to the videos, and you would understand this and things such as this too.
To falsey believe and/or conclude, and then to go on to actually say with a straight face - and post on TH-cam no less; an audience of millions - that Michael Jordan didn't and/or couldn't play off the ball -- frankly, it exposes you as (and please take no offense when I say this; just to point out from a critical standpoint -- complete and utter novices. Casuals.
Because amongst many, many other traits, skillsets, you mame it - Jordan is arguably (probably) the greatest, most skilled, very best off ball player who has ever lived up to this point in time.
@@ssang187 Yes. That's what makes MJ so special
-One of the most prolific scorers
-One of the best finishers
-One of the best post up players
-One of the best long range shooters
-One of the best mid range games
-One of the best at stealing the ball
-One of the best shot blocking and rebounding guards ever.
-One of the best man to man defenders ever.
-Yet passes morethan most prolific scorers (one of 4 retired players averaging 25+ points and 5+ assists for his career)
-Is a great help defender
-Very durable. Playing 82 games 9x and 80+ games 11x.
-And wins at such a high level. Winning 2 3 peats, no game 7s, and not taking 3 Ls in a row for a record 626 consecutive games.
-3x gold medalist, NCAA champion, and 3x ACC conference champion
Exactly. This is one of the reasons why MJ was so efficient. These kids are clueless.
They also talk over important points and then draw conclusions based on half of what they heard or based on admitting they don’t even know the players. It’s not old heads being biased to talk about the context of the 86 Bulls losing to the Celtics because the Bulls roster totally sucked while the Celtics that year are one of the best all time, along with the 87 Lakers, 83 Sixers, 96 Bulls etc. That’s not bias; it’s being a student of the game and actually knowing teams, even if they were before your time like the mid 80s teams are for me.
It’s why I don’t hold it against Lebron that he didn’t make the playoffs his first 2 years because his team sucked and got swept in the finals by San Antonio in the 2007 finals when he was only 22. I don’t expect a 22-23 year old to lead his team to the promised land and neither Jordan nor Lebron did it on their teams. So if you lost to the mid to late 80s Lakers or Celtics or the mid 2000s Spurs with a prime Duncan with an only okay team of your own you don’t deserve the critical onslaught for losing to the best.
For Jordan’s teams Pippen also wasn’t Pippen as talked about now until ‘90 as he wasn’t even an all-star before then; he was a developing talent with athleticism and a defensive presence who had legitimate issues with his mental toughness he needed to overcome. And Grant was solid but only an all-star one year so he wasn’t on a Bosh level all-around like Lebron had in Miami or Rodman level on defense that Jordan had in his second 3peat.
In the end these guys not being familiar with team rosters and such is fine, but if they don’t know they can’t make judgments like oh but it’s Jordan right? Nah, just like it wasn’t on Lebron to even make the playoffs his first 2 years or defeat an amazing Spurs team in 2007 with a solidly mediocre Cavs team which, while better than the 86 bulls roster, still wasn’t anything to write home about.
I am an old head who watched M.J. since college and I've seen Kobe and LeBron play. The thing the young heads don't realize is when we say Jordan is the goat, it's not being biased because WE have seen all these players play, live, and our eyes don't lie. It's actually the opposite. The young heads are biased because they have never seen M.J. live, so how can they say Lebron is better, we seen all of them play live. Our assessments hold more weight.
Facts
I saw him, and I still say he is insanely overhyped, so are Lebron and Kobe
@Gangsta Gummy Bear That's your opinion, and I can respect that.
@@gangstagummybear3432 what part of his game is overrated?
@@nathanmckenzie904 I dont see why you need to know why I think so, I just told you that the other 2 players, most commonly that people try to put in a clash with him, are also overhyped. And I never said his "game was overrated" but his stats are definitely bloated, and look better than they actually are, his stats to me are the most misleading stats of any player I have ever seen, up to the point of current day players from the 2010s and later atleast.
Shaq beat them one time in a deep playoff series.
Michael Jordan came back the next year and beat the fucking brakes off them sweeping them four games to zero and beating them on an average of 17 points. Rodman held Shaquille O'Neal to 2 points in a half. Shit was brutal
Exactly the reason Shaq went to the Lakers
@tavaresthomas6016 man's literally ran away to the West because he knew as long as Michael was in the East he wasn't going to get very far
@@whenisdinner2137 indeed
thats why Shaq took his talents to the west
@@whenisdinner2137 Lol, so Jordan shut down Shaq?
I can't believe these goofballs. You're a fan of a player who gets the "he didn't get help" excuse EVERY time he loses. Keep that same losses are losses energy for LeExcuse James please 😆
biggest choke in finals history was Lebron. th-cam.com/video/UDgOIcnp-iY/w-d-xo.html
FACTS 💯
FACTZ
There are literally millions dummies like these 3 but what "I can't believe" is that how these ngaz got over 150k subs! lol
Yeah LeBron James fans always have excuses for him
The video is called stats that prove Michael Jordan is the goat.
Back in the 80's and 90's Michael Jordan made a lot of professional Basketball players look like as if they were in High School. Put MJ in the NBA today and he would make them look like as if they are in grade school.
Totally! NOONE PLAYS D NOW;They're not even allowed to play defense!
Same with fucking Bird man, could you imagine those two being in the league today?
So MJ played”a young Shaq”, age 23, I guess Lebron beat “old” KD, age 23, “old”Westbrook age 23 and “old” Harden age 22. Youngins take a chill pill and just listen and learn.
The difference is, KD was a person that plays in Lebron's position, Shaq isnt a player that plays in MJ's position
@@gangstagummybear3432 that's like saying MJ dropping 63 on celtics isn't impressive since bird wasn't his direct comp at his position, it was still impressive enough for bird to call him black Jesus
@@jonnstewart2023yes while people were talking about bird and magic potentially being the goat or joint goats, they were both talking about Jordan being god.
Y’all gotta watch the games though too, he was in fact a playmaker and could for sure play with out the ball, this man did everything
Y’all sleeping Frfr, y’all gotta pull up a actual game or better Mj highlight reel
He has the highest usage rate ever but yall talked over the fact he has the highest efficiency rating ever as well. He was more effective w/ the ball in his hands than any other player ever statistically. Therefore the ball in any other players hands tht ever played would be less efficient. & idc about if he's goat or not.
Yeah, cause he was playing against trash d, and players that could actually guard him in his position didnt start showing up til the 90s, but he accumulated alot of this points that went into that "high efficiency" you people love bragging about in the time before that.
@@gangstagummybear3432 Yeah "trash players" who could fold U in half and throw U into a can! 🤣 WTF are u talking about?!? I rather have ppl guarding me who are defensive beasts than mofos who can bust me up every time I go in the paint. Keep that TWO 1-4 and TWO 0-4 records of Lebron and at least twice that I remember he quit on his team and compare it with a few sweeps of Jordan in playoffs while he gave it all and NEVER ever quitted... and btw since U mentioned MJ's scoring dominance in 80s messing up his true stats, Do U do the same when U falsely argue that Lebron made more finals at least compared to Jordan? So losing (getting swept) in finals is better than in first round, while the sole reason for U making to the finals is that U played against a whole conference of TRASH! freakin cake walking until U see a real mfkng team and losing over and over again! Lebron fans are the worst!!! I swear that a 5 yr old kid has more sense and is less ignorant than yall
@@upfront2375 If the defense was good in the 80s and even early early 90s, why was the primary method of guarding a "good" player, clotheslining them or any other form of melee combat? Cause their defense was actual trash.
GTGOH
@@gangstagummybear3432 Nope it wasn't bcoz their defense was trash, it was simply bcoz they were ALLOWED to closeline and be very physical. Same like these players today travelling left and right specially with those side step and step back jumpers, they do it bcoz it's NOT called by refs anymore... simple as that.
The only things that got better in new era is shooting long jumpers and overall physical abilities(also longevity) thanks to medical advances and new studies in nutrition
I’m an OG and watched MJ play, I watched Kobe, bron and all the legends of today. No body is better than MJ, nobody
Its correctly spelled nooooooboddddy😂
Y'all know MJ and the Bulls swept Shaq and Penny and the Magic in the ecf in 1996 right? Also Shaq was in MJ's conference....
Craig Hodges was the Bulls 3 pt marksman back in the day and won the NBA All-Star 3 -pt shooting contest a few times...
14:20 People forget: Jordan would badly twist his ankles during a game 2-3 times a season. He would leave the game, get iced, taped up and would always return in the 4th. Only injury that stopped him from returning to a game was the broken foot his second year.
p.s. I got to see the 🐐 play three times 🙌🏽 Twice in 96
Jordan started as Point Guard for 10 games and here are his Stats:
participated in the last 24 games of the season as a point guard and averaged 30.4 points, 10.7 assists, 9.2 rebounds and 2.4 steals per game. This player also scored 12 triple-doubles.
But y'all said him being "off the ball" was his deficiency.....just imagine if he stayed Point Guard his entire career.
He would have averaged a triple double almost every year
@@nathanmckenzie904 Every year? He did it 12 times in one year...that means he would've at least got 24 or more triple doubles in a year
@soldierviejo maybe not every year but it would be close
But the next year, he swept the magic. I'd say Jordan got his chance to dominate Shaq. Moreover, the infographic of Jordan's final's opponents isn't quite accurate because Jordan had to beat most of his toughest opponents in the Eastern Playoff before he played the finals. In the 90's, most of use often called the ECF the finals because it was just so much better than the West, especially in the second 3 peat.
Agree 100%…MJ was so crazy good that Shaq said he was afraid of MJ dunking in him.✌️👍
@@stevenaleman7454 That was Shaq in his rookie year saying that he didn't want to get dunked on. I'm sure that thought continued until Jordan ran him out of the Eastern Conference after the sweep of Orlando in 1996.
That’s a fact. Shaw is on that list too! From going to the finals the year before and beating MJs Bulls to getting swept 🧹 by the same team next year. No bueno.
@Bigdic Daddy2 Yeah 25 of 26 victories. CRAZY!
I have been watching the NBA since 1969, trust me, Mike is the Goat, plain and simple, end of story !
Michael Jordan's life is like a written script from a movie. He was cut from his high school team, but later became the hero of his college team in 1984, when he made the final basket in the championship game. He enterd the NBA as the third draft pick, only to become the most phemomenal rookie ever to play in the NBA. After seven years in the NBA he won his first ever NBA Championship and repeated it twice. After the tragic death of his father he decided to retire from Basketball and continue to play baseball for about 18 months. Then he returned and lost during the NBA Playoffs against the Orlando Magic. A lot of people back then called him old and not fit to continue. But after that he and the Bulls won another three consecutive Championships in a row. Something no team had ever been done before.
Better than movie....thanos didn't end up with all the 5 stones but mj finished with 6
Jordan is the GOAT. Beyond stats, his presence and leadership takes him over the top. Plus it's just beauty. When you see it you know it's how it is in it's purest form.
Certain people were born to do certain things, I FULLY believe Jordan was born to play basketball. He is the undisputed goat to me, everyone else is in the running for second but tbh Bird is above most others
Mr. Hodges is one of the most accurate 3-point shooters of all time and had the greatest 3-point contest performance ever.
And shot about 4 a game. Rarely any impact on a game unless the matchups called for it. Which is just like all the legendary shooters casuals think roamed all over the Bulls locker room.
The one teammate you all thought Jordan hated is actually a very good friend of his to this day 😂.
Which teammate was that?
@@x-man9473 Scott Burell 😚.
real good friends
Lebron getting dust by Jason Terry...whats your explaination for that? That team was NO Pistons or Celtics
when lebron gets angry, his teams get weak
when Jordan gets Angry, the opponents team get weak😁😁😁
Dont forget leflop walks out too if he thinks his losing..thats more of an asshole to me than jordan bein asshole durin practice.😂😂😂
When listening to these young men it’s hard to explain that 80’s and 90’s was a tough era with all sports. The object of football was to hit someone as hard a you could and basketball was a test of your “will”. Jordan wanted people that was ready to go to battle. I used to be hard a core basketball and football fan. When I look, I realize football and basket are two totally different game from those times. Example, no quarterback in the 80’s or 90’s would ever play as long a Brady because of the physicality and what you were allowed to do. So to compare him or any other players of the present to those times is unfair. Now sports is entertainment not purely the sport. 💯
No hate. But, all I see you all making childish argument - talking over when the video was making a point, laughing at any simple things that came with your head, especially the guy in the left, etc. Please make a valid argument.
MJ and the Bulls swept the Shaq Magic and scored 64 pts on them..
His usage rate is the highest because until Phil Jackson came around and implemented the triangle, Jordan’s usage rate was outrageous. He moved the ball around and played off ball throughout the entire 90s but his usage rate was so high in the 80s that he still is the all time usage rate leader
Phil implemented nothing…Tex did, Phil was an ego manager
Facts it was Tex Winters but most of these people that makes comments run straight to the Phil Jackson but they failed to acknowledge that Phil Jackson had not won a damn thing just like Jordan had not won a damn thing and the won championship together
@@redhotmamakennels7738 A coach does more than draw plays on a chalkboard. Winter brought in the system but Phil made Jordan call people out who were open that he wasn't passing to. I know some of you don't want to give Jackson his credit but I'd like to see anyone else besides Phil handle those teams, especially the 2nd 3peat.
@@mpound97 that’s 💩 is a lie..Phil ain’t do 💩 but manage certain soft egos like Pippen. MJ made everyone better and MJ’s scoring went up slightly during Phil’s first year etc.Bulls went to the eastern conference finals with Doug and went a game further with Phil the following year..you know why? Cuz MJ supporting cast was still 💩 and that’s including the overrated as fk Pippen. Pippen is the reason they didn’t get for the finals in 89&90
MJ made the NBA global. Nuff said. GOAT
Scottie and MJ were both playmakers but Triangle offense didn't require just one player to "set the table" like a Magic Johnson or Stockton
MJ and Lebron in the GOAT discussion is stupid!!! Lebron can´t carry MJ´s jock strap!!!
Yeah, he said he was pushing his team to be better, to toughen them up, to be able to take on someone like the Bad Boy Piston's, to bring out the big dog in them. Didn't he specifically say it was because he didn't want his team to be easily walked over so he went hard on them in practice.
10 seconds in and all I hear is silly, goofy, giggling like little 6 year old girls. What happened to today’s men?
It was so much politics going on early in Jordan's career. Not one player in the league could beat Jordan in a one on one by the time he was in his third year. Now when Jordan was on top he got all the calls. But talking about how Jordan losing early in his career, was really due to basketball politics. Most of the rule changes are because of Jordan when the NBA got tired of the physical nature of the game. Pistons just hacked the hell out of Jordan. That wasn't basketball. It was just bullying. But Jordan even overcame that. And he played every game. None of this load management crap.
If he never would have retired, it would be a safe bet that they win 8 titles in a row.
That is if Jerry Krause doesn’t fuck everything up.
Yea not a safe bet at all
For those that saw it....Horace Grant was a beast
Hodges was a 3 point specialist. He won three point championship in 3 Allstar games.
Young Shaq got swept the following year Jordan came back. So yeah Shaq belongs in that bag.
Ron harper the man on defense and he averaged 28 ppg while in Cleveland prior to Chicago
Damn the bias is real. Plus what was the point of watching the video when ya'll talked thru the whole thing missing several points. Another thing, The bulls swept Orlando the following year when MJ had a full season.
In that last Game he made 54% of the points…..of that chicago team. Thats dominance 🤯
I was gonna go in on what they said about Hodges and about Jordan not beating Shaq and some other things that was said ... Instead I went to the comments.... Y'all covered it. I was in my mid twenties when Jordan came into the NBA...saw him beat my Lakers.... Jordan IS the GOAT 🐐... I just wish this younger gen... would do the homework...and not talk over the narrator. At least, stop the clip...then react... especially when it's more than one reactor. They sometimes miss a valuable point.
Dude, he won a championship THE NEXT YEAR with the EXACT SAME DUDES you were saying "what are you gonna do with those guys?" Pippen is a HOFer, Horace Grant was an All-Star, Cartwright was a former All-Star, and Hodges was the best 3 point shooter in the league at that time. Same with his later team... Harper was a former PERENNIAL All-Star, Kerr retired as the best 3 point shooter in league HISTORY, Kukoc coming off the bench who could close out games, and they were the only team in the league at the time with 3 HOFers in their prime (due to the talent dilution of the expansion which "coincided" with Jordan's era of dominance). Once the 80s dynasties succumbed to expansion drafts (Pistons), age (Lakers) or injury/tragedy (Celtics), the Bulls were CLEARLY the best team in the league. Nobody even took them to 6 games in the Finals!
The Bulls swept the Shaq Magic
Fellas. Love your guys' personalites. But word of advice. You can pause and comment, but when the video is playing, listen - I mean really listen, to the commentary on the actual subject matter, the specific content that predominately gravitates/filters your viewers to you, and your shit (shit, meaning your reaction videos) will be an appreciable fuck-ton better; ya'know, more credible. Do that and you'll quickly realize the objectively ill-conceived notion that LeBron or any other baller before, then and since, was more spectacular/increidble/special than Mike. To even so much as entertain the mere notion that LeBron James of all players, is anywhere near as spectacular, phenomenal, impressive - all in all good as this man, Michael Jordan, rightfully disqualifys you in the eyes of any and every tried and true serious, knowledgeable basketball fans. No cap
The 86 Celtics have 4 Hall of farmers on the team
Not any scorers except Larry
It is not only the NUMBER of HoF players you faced, it is more about when, in their career, you faced them!
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I can't believe these goofballs. You're a fan of a player who gets the "he didn't get help" excuse EVERY time he loses. Keep that same losses are losses energy for LeExcuse James please 😆
18:40 Craig Hodges was a 3point assassin back then. He was blacklisted in the league for his problack stance, handing a letter to the President, as the team met him at the White House
Horace was one the best rebounder in the league back then. Easy top 5. A few nights, he had a double double in points and rebounds.
Yes, Shaq and the Magic beat the Bulls when MJ came back. However, in the 96 ECF the Bulls swept Shaq and the Magic.
I'll give you the first time for the team but the second time Shaq and his team was swept. As you said Mike knows what happened when he came back. Orlando got swept and Shaq went to LA
Bro y’all missing so much information talking through the video 😂
No dissin or discriminating, but most of the time reaction vids like these, they watch the highlights, criticize what they don't like and don't even justify those criticisms. Doesn't matter who they beat? Oh man..
@@patrickpatricio4837 Agreed. 100%
Uh.. yall do know that they swept shaq and penny the year after he came back?
Nope they don't know nothing unfortunately
Y’all are the bias ones here.
It’s not biased the Celtics had 5 hall of famers on that team it’s a fact they are considered the best all time teams. Bron can’t shoot that’s why he can’t get over the hump and he can’t consistently defend
Obviously ya'll didn't learn comprehension. If he was the 3rd pick on a team with nobody & a team that had a history of not having nobodies & a more physical league. They shouldn't have been there but were. Give Jordan the talent LeBron had his 2nd yr Jordan winning it if playing this defenseless era
Birds Celtics team had 5 Hall of Famers, the fact you hold that against him but excuse Bron being SWEPT in the Finals, it took Bron 2 years to even make the playoffs. Jordan made the playoffs every year he was a Bull. Y'all talk bias but are the ones being biased
MJ sweep the Magics when he played a complete season.
MJ turned that exact same roster into a dynasty adding Paxson to starting lineup
Bro Bron finals record is horrible.... I would rather lose in the first round than in the finals
MJ was not ball dominant he played off the ball plenty. The triangle was designed to help him as a slasher not just a Iso player! His usage rate is so high because of his elite defense which Luka can only dream of matching!
Jordan is 12-8 vs Shaq too btw...
For the guy with the two ponytails, he’s wayyyy too loud and does not seem to stop talking over the videos. He continues talking when you two stop and are trying to hear what the narrator of the video is saying. He doesn’t seem to really be interested in basketball or like he knows much about the game. If he could work on those things, that would be great. Other than that, you guys videos are cute cutes! Please Keep em coming!!!😇
A lot of those so called hall of famers they say LeBron are not even hall of famers.
Y’all buggin. Scottie definitely was the playmaker for the bulls. He was one to the Robinson point fowards. He was their primary passer and essentially their point guard.
Craig Hodges was a okay play. He was a really good shooter. He won 3x 3pt competitions. But that’s about all he did. Lol
As far as wilt, u can’t just look at highlights and assume he had no comp because the highlights make him look dominant just like any other highlights make stars look dominant. Stars that are dominant always make the players guarding them look trash. And if u don’t know the people guarding him,buoy would only assume he had no comp and everything was easy but that’s not the case. If u watch the highlights and look at the resumes of some of the guys from that era like Walt Bellamy who still has the highest scoring average for a rookie of all time, or Nate Thurmond who has the first quadruple double of all time, or elvin Hayes who has tte second most points for a power foward ever and is top 5 in rebounds all time I believe, You would know how great some of wilts comp actually was. It was just the fact that he was so much greater that he made hof talent look bad. Go watch a shaq highlight video and what do you see? Him dunking on and bodying the likes of Duncan, kg, Yao, Hakeem, Robinson, dikembe, etc. if u didn’t know those guys and the video was in black and white, what would u think? The same thing u think of wilt right? You’d say shaq is too big and strong and that he had no comp. Plus he was NOT just dunking the ball and laying it up. The vast majority of wilts points actually came from fadeaways.
Jordan the Goat best player ever no second or third the one and only all Caps every shot every took is trash unless Mike took the shot Jordan just saying and its true not playing
Okay now we got that out the way
He’s not bias Lebron fans use MJ losing to the Celtics in 86 as a reason to discount him on a horrible Bulls team (Pippen wasn’t on the team). Comparing Lebron’s team that lost in the finals to GSW doesn’t match up.
Stop talking during the video bruv
MJ is the billy goat that doesnt mean Lebron isnt a goat just not the billy. In fairness i have Jordan Kobe and Kareem all ahead of him still.
Here's the answer to your question. Why would they allow him to play 1vs1 instead of double teaming him? 2 reasons.
1. He was an underrated passer and will make you pay. (Steve Kerr John Paxson shot)
2. Pride. There were teams and players in that era that thought they could guard MJ on a single coverage. It was a psych thing
5.4 assist per game to prove it...
@@mykellagarde2271 doesn't need to. He's the go to guy. Nowadays there are few
I was in electors school and high school during Jordan’s career. Epic basketball for sure
Hodges was their 3-point specialist. He won the 3-point shoot-out 3 straight times in the All-Star Games.
these guys talk too much than they listen
Born in 1985 on this exact day, I've seen alottttt of MJ, besides Kobe it don't get no better for me
First time viewer. Way too much pausing. No subscription.
Finally Lebron fans that aren't delusional and at least recognize Jordans greatness.
11:41 Usage rate isn't reflective of the average time a player possesses the ball; rather, it's simply a metric designed to determine the percentage of a team's plays --- that resulted in a field-goal attempt, free-throw attempt, or turnover --- that a player was involved in. Ball-dominance doesn't equate to high usage rate. Take, for example, Magic: one of the three greatest ball-dominant players ever, yet he isn't even in the top 200 highest career usage rates. Anyone who studied/studies MJ's game and career (that is, they've graduated from the realm of highlight-watching to the practice of film-studying) with the remotest degree of scrutiny knows that MJ is undoubtedly one of the five greatest off-ball players in NBA history. No high-level scorer has ever approximated his mastery of off-ball movement and scoring, skills that lent greatly to his winning six championships in an offense as notoriously abstruse as the Triangle system. My suggestion? Watch his games. Reading our comments can only do so much for your understanding.
That guy wasn't blocking Wilt if he jumped... Wilt had a 46 inch vertical 😂
These guys really said high usage rate = Jordan is poor offball. Dudes really think Jordan is like Harden/Westbrook level off ball lmao, he's closer to Steph off ball than he is Lebron off ball.
I am also not one of these "old heads" hating either, still in my 20's, the difference is I actually went back to watch some of Jordan's games, not just making assumptions about the players. Full games btw, not highlights.
Craig Hodges was a 3pt. specialist.
He avg 6ppg and played 15 min per game. Just stop it!
Once again MJ played in the hardest era in the NBA and like I mentioned in your last video MJ played against 25 1st Ballot HOF name 20bin LeBron Era right now. No disrespect to the show at all 🙏🏾💯
He came back and swept Shaq
Tim Duncan a 5 time champion and beat lebron 4 to 1 in the finals against Miami not flashy but 20 points per game and 10 rebounds in career goat status
React to Mahmoud Abdul Rauf. He was hitting long 3's like steph in the 90's until he was blackballed.
Bryon Russell told Jordan in 1994 that so bad he was retired to play baseball that he play against him he could stop him. That is why he is playing one on one in the last possession of the game. He was supposed to be the Jordan stopper 🤣🤣🤣
And for the record the 86 Celtics are seen as on off the greatest teams ever for several reasons… they won 68 games without trying… they were top 3 in every offensive and defensive category and they avg more ppg then the 73 win GS team…& that team actually won the chip
Craig Hodges was a three-point specialist. He could come off the bench cold and rain three's. Bill Cartwright was your center, Horace Grant was the power forward then Pippin. great line up.
Ignoring the Wizards MJ averaged 34.9 pts a game not 31. I hate when these channels try to slide stats.
“That’s bullying”! Lol😂 he was trying to summons the killer mentally in his teammates.
I can tell that None of you were alive when he was playing. I constantly see people making statements about Michael's game without thorough research. Too often I hear someone say "I didn't know that about Michael!" That is what the passage of time does to the game. Do you Realize that Ron Harper was a defensive monster? Both he and Michael are 6' 6. I'm shocked that you don't know about Craig Hodges. Craig Hodges is the only other player besides Larry Bird to win the 3 point contest 3 times. Do you realize how physical they used to get with Chamberlain? The reason you're not seeing hands put up is because they knew they could do little to stop him on a fast break. He was too fast too strong and too powerful. You had to get him when he was in the post. Even Bill Russell knew that.
20:03... yall missing the point. What he is saying is that people clown MJ for getting swept by the Celtics in the first round... yet excuse LeBron for getting swept by the KD Warriors in the Finals. When they are bascially the same thing. The only difference is Mj ran into the Super Team in the first round, while LeBron got face Gilbert Arenas, and a weaker East... before finally reaching that Super Team in the Finals. MJ facing the Celtics in the first round in 85 is the equivalent of LeBron facing that Spurs team in 2007 in the first round. Bron was just lucky enough tonot be in the West in 07
Scottie was the first real Point Forward. He was a great playmaker.
Lol I had to add. Bros y’all seriously just clowned the bulls starting 5. The Celtics had 5 hall a famers on there team. Jordan or not no one expecting them to win.
Commenting as I watch. Bros he can say shaq. Yes the magic won when MJ came back after almost 2 years of playing BASEBALL and played 17 out of 82 games before the playoffs. But….. the very next year Bulls swept them. After MJ lost to them the first time he told the team they wasn’t having a summer break. He gave them 2 weeks and said it’s time to get to work. That was the year they won 72 games and swept the Magic. That speaks to MJs greatness.
The Bucks had a forward that they ran their offense through and he was one of the first that that title was applied to. Paul Pressey was his name.
Even tho some people might think Jordan is not the Goat, but I think we can all agree that Jordan is the most iconic basketball player of all time.
Come on scottie at one point top 5 player in the league great 2 way player at 6 foot 9 he's not a role player he's a hall of fame player please respect him
facts
He’s a Hall of Fame role player. Please respect all the other players in his era that were actually better than him.
he may not have won every game but he won every finals series never played a game 7 and won a finals mvp every time
What truly set MJ apart from the rest was his defense which was every bit as ferocious as his offense. I think that he took more pride in his defense than he did in his offense. One thing that you guys are wrong about is that the Bull's offense was run through Pippen quite a bit. Scottie played a version of a point forward that was truly ahead of it's time!
Jordan is definitely a top 3 Defensive Guard of all time. And the craziest thing is that Pippen and Rodman were both better defenders than Jordan. Bulls really had the greatest defensive roster ever.
Usage rate measures how many of your teams plays end with something you did. Meaning field goals, free throws or turnovers.
Never seen such a group of guys who really don’t know basketball. Jordan lost to the magic after coming out of retirement and playing 19 regular season games then came back and swept the Magic the next year.
You just can’t be a LeBron James fan and not acknowledge Michael Jordan, because LeBron James idolizes Michael Jordan❤
Jordan was the greatest of his time and Lebron of his time however MJ is the GOAT and the fact his peers acknowledge this reinforces his status
Can anyone show me Phil Jackson record,coach of the year, championship before coaching the bulls. He got decorated because he was coaching the best player ever. There is a video on the bench when he is giving instructions to the team,and finish by looking to his left and MICHAEL. And that was it. You can said they learn how to win together. On this video said that MJ all he did was over shoot the ball and not passing the ball right.
That MJ was just a scorer. Or all around
Basketball player.
1987 playoffs
Cleveland
MJ 45.2pts 5.4rb 4.8ast 2.8stl
SP 10.6pts 5.2rb 2.4ast 0.8 stl
Detroit
MJ 27.4pts 8.8rb 4.6ast 2.0stl
SP 9.5pts 5.2rb 2.4ast. 0.8 stl
1988-89
Cleveland
MJ 39.8pts 5.8rb 8.2ast 3.0stl
SP 15.0pts 8.6rb 4.0ast 1.6stl
New York
MJ 35.7pts 9.5rb 8.3ast 2.5stl
SP 14.2pts 7.0rb 4.8ast 1.5stl
Detroit
MJ 29.5pts 5.5rb 6.5ast 2.0stl
SP 9.7pts 9.3rb 3.0ast 1.5stl
1989-90
Milwaukee
MJ 36.8pts 8.0rb 7.0ast 2.5 stl
SP 22.5pts 9.3rb 8.0ast 2.8stl
Philly
MJ 43.0pts 6.6rb 7.4ast 4.0stl
SP 20.8pts 6.8rb 6.3ast 1.5 stl
Detroit
MJ 32.1pts 7.1rb 6.3ast 2.1 stl
SP 16.6pts 6.3rb 3.7ast 2.0stl
1990-91 MJ decided to focus on his teammates
New York
MJ 29.0pts 4.7rb 6.0ast 2.7stl
SP 19.7pts 8.7rb 5.0ast 3.3stl
Philly
MJ 33.4pts 8.0rb 7.0ast 1.8stl
SP 23.4pts 9.4rb 6.0ast 1.6stl
Detroit finally Pippen step up to the plate
MJ 29.8pts 5.3rb 7.0ast 2.3stl
SP 22.3pts 7.8rb 5.3ast 3.0 stl
Lakers
MJ 31.2pts 6.6rb 11.4ast 2.8stl
SP 20.8pts 9.4rb. 6.6ast 2.4stl
These guys are not listening. They just watch and think that they can get the full picture from highlights. Jordan built himself, improved until he had no weaknesses, evolved when his athleticism declined, built his teammates through tenacity and accountability, taking responsibility for failures and sharing victory, playing every game, and keeping the rivalries on the court. He did all this while eating McDonalds, smoking cigars, and drinking. Imagine he did not do those things and actually slept 8 hours. If you haven't I recommend you watch Angry Old Hoops fan, Sports and Fitness, and Uncommon Cents for truth on fake debate.