It’s day 6 for me. I still get cravings. You’re right, it’s a desire of comfort. I think a lot about the future how I’m going to handle the desire to take it again. I’m going to continue to reject taking it but I know I’m going to want to take it again. I have been into opiates for the past 23 years. Even when I was in the Army. I know it’s never going away. Just avoid it as much as possible and develop the good habits I had in the past, like you said. Thanks for the videos man. Really appreciate it.
Great video, especially touching on that 4-5 month time period, and seeming to say that will pass, or get better, also. Really liked how you said you have to get used to ‘not being comfortable all the time.’
Thanks Keith you videos helped a lot. I am 24 days without kratom, cold turkey after using consistently 20-30 grams a day for 7 plus years and feeling pretty good.
This was great, brother, and so true. How long will it take? Well, physiologically it’ll take however long it needs to take for things to reach an equilibrium. The reality is though, we’ve spent a long time living in a fog. Rediscovering or just discovering what it means to be “yourself” is both the responsibility and joy of living free from chemical dependence. You can be whoever you want to be, and there isn’t some stupid plant that can stop you: so have fun finding yourself. Just don’t ask “how long” as though whether you stick with it or not depends on the answer you get. It’s all up to you if you’re in it for real.
I’ve been off about a month now after using everyday for about 2 and a half years. I just finally realized inside through a lot of prayer and asking Jesus to use me for his will and to help me change for the better. I have always struggled with substance usage since I was a teenager (31 now). Not having anything to “look forward to” after work is tough. I came home today and just ate and listened to music. But the thoughts of man it would be nice to have even just a tiny scoop … idk if those thoughts ever go away. Kratom definitely kept me away from drinking. I think it’s the better of the 2 evils but it’s either I’m going to go the route of not being a slave to any substance anymore OR I’m gonna choose Kratom if I can’t seem to control myself. I used to be such a good boy before I hit my teens!!! I knew better too but I messed up! Divorced parents since I was nearly a baby may have had something to do with it but Idk I made all of these dumb decisions. Anyways Lord bless you man . I’ll comment back in a while in the future and let you know if I can continue to abstain
you will feel warm and fuzzy all day long, but in the meantime your demons will have you surrounded .. and if its been 2,3, 4, or more years, you WONT be same, you arent the same person as you were before, you gotta find yourself. you got off track...
Hey Keith I watched u from the beginning and quit with u last August... I was taking it everyday all day ...I haven't done it as good as you but still clean there's only been about 5 days in 6 months I screwed up but that's way better than everyday all day... U helped me so much at the beginning and I just wanna say thank you so much and I'm praying for u...Jesus saves u just gotta ask
5 days in 6 months is huge! Especially if you were using all day everyday. Good job! Just think about what you really get from kratom. Do you get the desired feeling? Or is it masking something deeper? These are questions I ask myself regularly about not only kratom. In short, I think you’re on the right path! 🤜🤛
yeah the addiction for me and maybe others is two fold, its the substance itself, and then the environment I was using it in, as well as issues surrounding THAT....
Brotha I am glad you’re addressing this. The hardest part is just how dang boring everything seems bro. I wish I would have never started. I’m 3 years in.
Methadone withdrawal lasted for over a year for me now I'm on kratom it has such a short life I have to dose every 4 hours I wake up every 4 hours to dose
I recommend lowering your dose over a 7-10 day period Instead of going cold turkey. You'll basically cut the withdrawals in half. I'm in the process of doing it right now. At first I tried lowering my dose in half and on the 2nd day I had bad withdrawals. During the 2nd night I couldn't get any sleep, I had restless legs, anxiety and diarrhea. After that night I decided to lower my dosage slowly over a 9 day period and it's been much easier. I'm not getting much sleep and I have no energy but it's only half as bad as going cold turkey. Basically it's like having the flu which is something everyone has dealt with. I don't recommend lowering your dosage over a 30 day period because most addicts will go back to their normal dosage within a couple of weeks. In my opinion 7-10 day's is the perfect time frame. I went cold turkey on suboxone and it felt like I was dying for several weeks so I learned my lesson. At the end of the day it's going to suck no matter what.
That exactly what I thought before I quit, this is going to suck anyway. I figured cold turkey was just the quickest. Any kind of tapering was going to drag it out in my opinion. Cold turkey is a lot rougher on your body.
It's a lot easier if you are taking a small amount daily I'm trying to lower the amount I take daily so if I have to go without I won't feel sick or as sick
Damn it only took me a month from oz a day habit for years to feel normal. I feel bad for yall who be bummed a long time. Rly Kratom withdrawal only sucked for a few days then it was all legs n sleep which wasn’t that bad compared to being an addict.
I was at around 3 ounces a day brotha. Some days more. And kratom is definitely an addiction. You’re a kratom addict. It’s more mild than fentanyl or heroin, but still an addict. Withdrawal sucks, no matter how intense it is. It’s about getting over the addiction and living healthy. Not who had worse withdrawals.
@@StrongKeithJ hardest drug I ever quit tbh. And yeah I only got to an oz a day and realized this was going to spiral fast even worse. And bro I said the withdrawal sucked and I feel bad for those it effects worse. I totally get we all have diff bodies and chemistry and shit. I speak bluntly but I am not putting anyone down. I have a homie that STILL has massive depression a year later. I hope my words aren’t coming off as an asshole because I’ve been addicted to more drugs than anyone I know man. I just started working I myself the last two years. I rly ain’t trying to come across weird 😬😔
You don’t sound weird at all. You sounded a little judgy with your first comments, but I totally get it now. You sound solid. It totally hits everybody differently.
I beg to differ, withrawn from opium, tramadol, codeine and morphine multiple times, Kratom is the worst for me. Not the worst physically.but psychologicaly. Can handle thw others pretty well but Kratom PAWS stays with me for ages. Alcohol, Benzos and Gaba stuff is way worse though
what the F does it take to quit this shite.... my discipline isnt apparently enough to do it.... I could make through recruit training and SERE school and a few other things but this.... the physical withdrawals are unable to sleep, restless leg etc...
You gotta want it bad plus you need to use vitamins and supplements and if possible thc or cbd and work out or get outside in nature restless legs last about 2 weeks
@@intentionallyblank9209 yeah, I keep making excuses... "Ill do it when this bag runs out..." or "Ill just use this less potent type and wean myself down..." etc etc etc
Crew Chief leading from the front? SEMPER FI BABY. I’m right there with you brother. Kept this shit from my shop and Gunny for 3 years. Just know I’m out here rooting for you brother.
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These videos help so much
I’m glad they do. Feel free to comment whenever. I always respond.
It’s day 6 for me. I still get cravings. You’re right, it’s a desire of comfort. I think a lot about the future how I’m going to handle the desire to take it again. I’m going to continue to reject taking it but I know I’m going to want to take it again. I have been into opiates for the past 23 years. Even when I was in the Army. I know it’s never going away. Just avoid it as much as possible and develop the good habits I had in the past, like you said. Thanks for the videos man. Really appreciate it.
Thanks Keith. Very helpful stuff.
Of course brother! 🤜🤛
Thanks. You’re a great help.
You’re welcome sir. 🤜🤛
Great video, especially touching on that 4-5 month time period, and seeming to say that will pass, or get better, also. Really liked how you said you have to get used to ‘not being comfortable all the time.’
Thank you very much for the feedback! Glad you liked it.
Thanks Keith you videos helped a lot. I am 24 days without kratom, cold turkey after using consistently 20-30 grams a day for 7 plus years and feeling pretty good.
I’m glad you’re feeling good brother! It only gets better. I know you feel free!!!
Looking good my friend ❤️.
Thank you! Cheers!
Incredibly well put bro👍
I’m glad you liked it! Thank you 🤜🤛
This was great, brother, and so true. How long will it take? Well, physiologically it’ll take however long it needs to take for things to reach an equilibrium. The reality is though, we’ve spent a long time living in a fog. Rediscovering or just discovering what it means to be “yourself” is both the responsibility and joy of living free from chemical dependence. You can be whoever you want to be, and there isn’t some stupid plant that can stop you: so have fun finding yourself. Just don’t ask “how long” as though whether you stick with it or not depends on the answer you get. It’s all up to you if you’re in it for real.
Amen to that 🙏
It really does depend on if you’re in it for real.
I’ve been off about a month now after using everyday for about 2 and a half years. I just finally realized inside through a lot of prayer and asking Jesus to use me for his will and to help me change for the better. I have always struggled with substance usage since I was a teenager (31 now). Not having anything to “look forward to” after work is tough. I came home today and just ate and listened to music. But the thoughts of man it would be nice to have even just a tiny scoop … idk if those thoughts ever go away. Kratom definitely kept me away from drinking. I think it’s the better of the 2 evils but it’s either I’m going to go the route of not being a slave to any substance anymore OR I’m gonna choose Kratom if I can’t seem to control myself. I used to be such a good boy before I hit my teens!!! I knew better too but I messed up! Divorced parents since I was nearly a baby may have had something to do with it but Idk I made all of these dumb decisions. Anyways Lord bless you man . I’ll comment back in a while in the future and let you know if I can continue to abstain
you will feel warm and fuzzy all day long, but in the meantime your demons will have you surrounded .. and if its been 2,3, 4, or more years, you WONT be same, you arent the same person as you were before, you gotta find yourself. you got off track...
Definitely. We have to find ourselves. And recreate ourselves. A good opportunity to do so.
Hey Keith I watched u from the beginning and quit with u last August... I was taking it everyday all day ...I haven't done it as good as you but still clean there's only been about 5 days in 6 months I screwed up but that's way better than everyday all day... U helped me so much at the beginning and I just wanna say thank you so much and I'm praying for u...Jesus saves u just gotta ask
5 days in 6 months is huge! Especially if you were using all day everyday. Good job! Just think about what you really get from kratom. Do you get the desired feeling? Or is it masking something deeper? These are questions I ask myself regularly about not only kratom.
In short, I think you’re on the right path! 🤜🤛
@@StrongKeithJI never got the desired affect it's always over promised and under delivered always
Exactly! 🤜🤛
You’ll never feel like yourself again….
You’ll feel a lot better…
Stay strong brothas
Amen to that
yeah the addiction for me and maybe others is two fold, its the substance itself, and then the environment I was using it in, as well as issues surrounding THAT....
I can completely relate.
Brotha I am glad you’re addressing this. The hardest part is just how dang boring everything seems bro. I wish I would have never started. I’m 3 years in.
Are you still currently using?
vulnerability is the key to a good relationship.....
Amen to that
lets goooo
Let’s go!!! 🤜🤛
Thanks bud
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Methadone withdrawal lasted for over a year for me now I'm on kratom it has such a short life I have to dose every 4 hours I wake up every 4 hours to dose
thats not sustainable, thats just going to go somewhere else bad....
I hear you man. That’s the reason I would use so heavily at night. I’m sure I would use close to 40 grams before bed. If not more.
I recommend lowering your dose over a 7-10 day period Instead of going cold turkey. You'll basically cut the withdrawals in half. I'm in the process of doing it right now. At first I tried lowering my dose in half and on the 2nd day I had bad withdrawals. During the 2nd night I couldn't get any sleep, I had restless legs, anxiety and diarrhea. After that night I decided to lower my dosage slowly over a 9 day period and it's been much easier. I'm not getting much sleep and I have no energy but it's only half as bad as going cold turkey. Basically it's like having the flu which is something everyone has dealt with. I don't recommend lowering your dosage over a 30 day period because most addicts will go back to their normal dosage within a couple of weeks. In my opinion 7-10 day's is the perfect time frame. I went cold turkey on suboxone and it felt like I was dying for several weeks so I learned my lesson. At the end of the day it's going to suck no matter what.
That exactly what I thought before I quit, this is going to suck anyway. I figured cold turkey was just the quickest. Any kind of tapering was going to drag it out in my opinion. Cold turkey is a lot rougher on your body.
It's a lot easier if you are taking a small amount daily I'm trying to lower the amount I take daily so if I have to go without I won't feel sick or as sick
Yeah I hear you brother. Definitely easier to manage I’m sure.
You will never feel like your old self. That person is dead
I think you’re right. Good opportunity to reinvent yourself.
Damn it only took me a month from oz a day habit for years to feel normal. I feel bad for yall who be bummed a long time. Rly Kratom withdrawal only sucked for a few days then it was all legs n sleep which wasn’t that bad compared to being an addict.
I was at around 3 ounces a day brotha. Some days more. And kratom is definitely an addiction. You’re a kratom addict. It’s more mild than fentanyl or heroin, but still an addict. Withdrawal sucks, no matter how intense it is. It’s about getting over the addiction and living healthy. Not who had worse withdrawals.
@@StrongKeithJ hardest drug I ever quit tbh. And yeah I only got to an oz a day and realized this was going to spiral fast even worse. And bro I said the withdrawal sucked and I feel bad for those it effects worse. I totally get we all have diff bodies and chemistry and shit. I speak bluntly but I am not putting anyone down. I have a homie that STILL has massive depression a year later. I hope my words aren’t coming off as an asshole because I’ve been addicted to more drugs than anyone I know man. I just started working I myself the last two years.
I rly ain’t trying to come across weird 😬😔
You don’t sound weird at all. You sounded a little judgy with your first comments, but I totally get it now. You sound solid. It totally hits everybody differently.
I beg to differ, withrawn from opium, tramadol, codeine and morphine multiple times, Kratom is the worst for me. Not the worst physically.but psychologicaly. Can handle thw others pretty well but Kratom PAWS stays with me for ages. Alcohol, Benzos and Gaba stuff is way worse though
I hear you. Hardest thing I’ve ever done. What do you differ in opinion with?
what the F does it take to quit this shite.... my discipline isnt apparently enough to do it.... I could make through recruit training and SERE school and a few other things but this.... the physical withdrawals are unable to sleep, restless leg etc...
You gotta want it bad plus you need to use vitamins and supplements and if possible thc or cbd and work out or get outside in nature restless legs last about 2 weeks
Kava and magnesium at night to sleep
@@intentionallyblank9209 yeah, I keep making excuses... "Ill do it when this bag runs out..." or "Ill just use this less potent type and wean myself down..."
etc
etc
etc
Crew Chief leading from the front? SEMPER FI BABY. I’m right there with you brother. Kept this shit from my shop and Gunny for 3 years. Just know I’m out here rooting for you brother.
Yo Keith I've been off kratom for two months now
That’s what I’m talking about brother!!!