Stock Kbs Tour 120s shafts will usually produce less spin. Avoid the $-taper if you need spin, but fit these with DG 120s, or standard S300, maybe the Modus 120 and your numbers will climb.
I hit these a little over a week ago at a local clubfitter and compared them to my Apex Pro Dots and I ended up ordering them that day. THe numbers with the correct shaft were just better than what I'm playing now. Can't wait to get them.
I game these irons in 7i-3i. They spin plenty on the course from what ive found. Also play the p7mb from pw-8i and they are fantastic. Surprising amount of forgiveness out of the p7mc for me
Just ordered mine w/ project x 6.5 shafts, and 1 degree stronger to be closer to my p790 iron degrees. My spin numbers w/ the 7 iron were between 7000 and 8000 consistently.
Would like to see 3 holes played with two sets of clubs. One you love and the other your not a fan of. Then discuss the difference and you opinion Love your content and banter with your mates. That is what golf should always be.
Definitely need to get these three sets out on the course, sim only tells you so much. See how they perform in real conditions. Vids I’ve watched show some distinct performance differences between the 770, MC and MB. To be honest, MCs are what I’d likely go with.
I like your club reviews but.. I do miss the old ones where you would show the graphics on ball flight and dispersion, that's basically how I can tell how forgiving the clubs are when you've hit those bad shots. I've noticed a few reviewers now that i watch regularly have not been showing the graphs anymore 😕 Keep up the good work!
I would prefer P770 5-PW with P790 3 and 4 iron. I have full set of P790 now. I just don’t see MC selling as they are an in between club. Another good review
I would definitely play these, I had no clue about the previous model either. I just think they look awesome lol , definitely would need to see them in person to gauge the exact size and offeset.
Live the look of these! I would absolutely play these if I could get my numbers dialed in with them. Thankfully I just got a new set of irons (Titleist T100-S) which I am greatly enjoying! That may just be enough to keep me from spending money again! 😀
I like them. I seems to be the only person I know that doesn’t want strong lofts. If I want to hit a 7-iron the length of a 6-iron, I’ll just hit the 6. I like these cos they’re more “traditionally” lofted and there’s no big loft gaps.
TM certainly seem to have upped their game with these new Irons! PS James, please don't take this the wrong way (it is meant to be constructive), but you seemed to be rushing your presentation
@@mrdudelove1 I'm not sure that Mizuno would agree with that and listening to Trottie being interviewed on the TXG channel recently even he admitted that they have made big strides to catch up with Mizuno that's why they are now forging these Irons on a 200-tonne forge.
Michael Ashman what makes you think people care about your opinion enough to write that comment Michael? I’ll do what I enjoy and what the majority of my subscribers enjoy. If you don’t like it nobody’s making you watch
I prefer the look of the p7mc but think the 770 will be best for my game, I currently have a old 770 7 iron in my bag trying it out and love it, love the better loft, hate these super lofted clubs
I would absolutely love a set of the mb’s but I only got my 760’s Oct last year if I’d known these were coming out I would of waited lol bloody typical that is
Might want to look elsewhere then. If you play with custom options on Taylormade's website there are multiple grips that are no upcharge. TGW doesn't even give you the option to select that standard Z-Grip that comes on the irons when ordering them custom.
I’m thinking about MP20 MB/MMC combo set (currently set: 850 Forged). 620 CB was also in the mix. Might explore P7MB/CB combo. Also interested in NewLevel 902 and sub70 639. Need a full fitting and my local shop in under for renovation
I’ve been playing the mmc for 6 months now best irons out there for feel and forgiveness before I got them I had 620 cb that replaced my 716 cb did not like new cb at all went to mmc never looked back
2222skinny: thanks, mate. MMC’s are at the top of my list. MB’s really just for looks/ego. 850 Forged feel is great, but I need new shafts and proper fitting (bought used as-is) so good excuse to get a new set.
There are so many great irons available these days that it’s hard to pick one out of the pack. I’m curious about how people who sell clubs feel about the year to year turnover.
TM have really lapped the competition with the new releases, Sim driver/woods, these new irons .. stunning. Do not see anything from the competitors that excites me like this new line.,
I’m undecided between the 770s and P7MC. I play off 15 and have high ball flight and currently hit a 7i 170 yards. Worried 770s be too high ball flight and not stop and P7MC I’m not good enough to use!!? Any advice please??
Could just be his swing and playing a lower spin ball. I hit them the other day on a track man with a prov1x and was spinning the 7 iron 7000+ and the 4 iron around 4500. For me they spin around 500 rpm more than the 770.
I'm in no way in my youth but I don't like the look of the P7MC. I've never seen the RAC irons but looking at these I could tell they were going for some sort of nostalgia vote.
Random question would you ever play a round against Rick shields, Peter finch and Matt fryer think it would be great content playing a 4 ball tournament at 4 courses of each golfers choice as I would rate all 4 of use the best golf TH-camrs
I'm not really sure your offset issue makes any sense because the offset specs for the P7MC are all lower (except 4 iron and 5 iron, which are .008 and .003 difference) ...humanly not possible to tell that difference. From 6 iron through PW, the P7MC has specs that are all lower offset than the Mizuno MP20.
I'm nervous..ordered a split set 770/P7MC..to replace my Srixon 565/765.. Set..how do these7 MCs compare with the 765s??. Espically forgiveness..same? More? Less?..The taylormade aren't being released till Sept 14th..
I probably should have asked before I ordered them, but..I was going to restart the Srixons anyway and with my military discount and trade in it only cost me $200 more to buy these..
Why do Taylormade bring out new irons so soon after their last models, do they go further, do they spin more, do they feel better? And it’s not just Taylormade other companies do it as well. We know it’s the strike that will make us all better not always the club but it just seems to myself they bring a new model out every year or so, and being honest James it’s more or less the same the same sales pitch from them. Only my point of view I’m not saying I’m 100% correct it just seems that way. Good stuff James 👍
Very informative! I may be completely wrong but I feel like these clubs can compete with the T200's (among other brands). If you had to pick one up, which one would you choose to game?
These absolutely do not compete with the TS200s - those are hot faced, low lofted, low spinning rocket ships. Better comparison is the Mizuno JPX 921 Tours or the Titleist CB's. I personally think they should have made them with a tungsten plug in the 7,,6,5, and 4 irons and thus made them compete against the TS100(S) or Mizuno MMCs which will be easier to hit in the mid and long irons. Reality is almost no one will buy the blades or MCs and the 770s will get all the sales
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Callaway Xforged r fantastic. Only hope the new xforged (when/if they release) have a little less offset. If more people tried (and felt the solidity) of the one piece forged they wouldn’t even bother with the “hollow” clubs. Hopefully the hollow n foam injection is a fad. Also, the forgiveness is a myth. Either u hit it close to the center or u don’t.
Not sure James get it sometimes. Dude, they’re not going left because of your perception of “offset,” it’s your swing mate and you’re indoors. Get them outdoors in grass and then let’s hear your review on offset, spin and launch.
James Robinson Golf I listened to the Trottie podcast, and it sounds like they have almost gone to onset on these, and I’ve heard they have 17 sets/clubs built and 16 in play, so I was just curious about the look to your eye, since adoption has been really high from early reports
Aren't the grooves supposed to be on the FRONT of the club head!!! The look of the rear cavity is positively REPULSIVE! 🤮 Thought the RAC was hideous as well. But I *WILL* be using the George Foreman tonight to make a few burgers! 🍔🍔
Less is more. Stop with the very annoying introduction with the same annoying lines that you blab out at the start of each videos. After a while it becomes very off putting.Less videos with higher quality like Rick does. Hence why he gets so many views.
Why would I want to be like someone else? I love what I do and I am who I am. Nobody forces you to come here Michael. The fact you’ve left numerous comments complaining about something which you really don’t need to worry about is a big weird.
Thanks for the video. You have probably gotten this before but you have a major glitch in your takeaway that when looked after will make a big difference in your overall swing. Sorry mate, we’re all professionals. lol
Nelson James you know what Nelson. I’ll stick to what all my coaches any physios say. Not so sure where your spiteful comments come from as all I’ve done is reply with good manners and good feelings. Good luck with your life and I hope you don’t feel so negatively about things in the future.
James Robinson Golf you’re taking this far too seriously. No intent to be spiteful; I have nothing against you. I just noticed something obvious. Don’t worry about it. No need to be sensitive.Anyway, check your first move with your wrist and I’ll never comment again. I didn’t mean to hurt your feelings, honest.
Stock Kbs Tour 120s shafts will usually produce less spin. Avoid the $-taper if you need spin, but fit these with DG 120s, or standard S300, maybe the Modus 120 and your numbers will climb.
I play the old P770 and the new P7mc are right up my street. Stunning!!
Welcome to my world
I hit these a little over a week ago at a local clubfitter and compared them to my Apex Pro Dots and I ended up ordering them that day. THe numbers with the correct shaft were just better than what I'm playing now. Can't wait to get them.
I game these irons in 7i-3i. They spin plenty on the course from what ive found. Also play the p7mb from pw-8i and they are fantastic. Surprising amount of forgiveness out of the p7mc for me
I'm 18 and I love the look of them
Just ordered mine w/ project x 6.5 shafts, and 1 degree stronger to be closer to my p790 iron degrees. My spin numbers w/ the 7 iron were between 7000 and 8000 consistently.
Would like to see 3 holes played with two sets of clubs. One you love and the other your not a fan of. Then discuss the difference and you opinion
Love your content and banter with your mates. That is what golf should always be.
Definitely need to get these three sets out on the course, sim only tells you so much. See how they perform in real conditions. Vids I’ve watched show some distinct performance differences between the 770, MC and MB. To be honest, MCs are what I’d likely go with.
I like your club reviews but.. I do miss the old ones where you would show the graphics on ball flight and dispersion, that's basically how I can tell how forgiving the clubs are when you've hit those bad shots. I've noticed a few reviewers now that i watch regularly have not been showing the graphs anymore 😕
Keep up the good work!
Noted buddy 🤘🏼
I would prefer P770 5-PW with P790 3 and 4 iron. I have full set of P790 now. I just don’t see MC selling as they are an in between club. Another good review
I would definitely play these, I had no clue about the previous model either. I just think they look awesome lol , definitely would need to see them in person to gauge the exact size and offeset.
Live the look of these! I would absolutely play these if I could get my numbers dialed in with them.
Thankfully I just got a new set of irons (Titleist T100-S) which I am greatly enjoying! That may just be enough to keep me from spending money again! 😀
I like them. I seems to be the only person I know that doesn’t want strong lofts. If I want to hit a 7-iron the length of a 6-iron, I’ll just hit the 6. I like these cos they’re more “traditionally” lofted and there’s no big loft gaps.
I'd say they are shaped more like the R9 TPs than the RACs, could also argue they look very like the Srixon 745s too.
I've got to carry it 195...carries it 189...in the water by a yard! haha or 6.
Thought I said 190 lol
TM certainly seem to have upped their game with these new Irons!
PS James, please don't take this the wrong way (it is meant to be constructive), but you seemed to be rushing your presentation
Cheers buddy 🤘🏼
Bandit
They always have been on top since the 2014 MC
@@mrdudelove1 I'm not sure that Mizuno would agree with that and listening to Trottie being interviewed on the TXG channel recently even he admitted that they have made big strides to catch up with Mizuno that's why they are now forging these Irons on a 200-tonne forge.
Does way too many videos with the same very annoying lines at the start. Very off putting.
Michael Ashman what makes you think people care about your opinion enough to write that comment Michael? I’ll do what I enjoy and what the majority of my subscribers enjoy. If you don’t like it nobody’s making you watch
Compare these to Wilson V6 Tour irons. I feel that would be a great comparison of two irons that are similar but separated vastly in price.
I prefer the look of the p7mc but think the 770 will be best for my game, I currently have a old 770 7 iron in my bag trying it out and love it, love the better loft, hate these super lofted clubs
Just got some p760’s that are fantastic
Like the look of these pal was considering them myself 👍
the p760s are literally the mc and p770 combo set
Mister Man Dan and getting them I. Good condition for less than $1500 is nice
Your mizuno mp-20 MB 7 has more offset (just) than the P7MC
Great video! Not sure if I like the serrations on the back yet.
I’ve ordered the p770 irons from the pro shop at my club get fitted on Friday!!!
Surely the irons that give you the feel and spin/ distance consistency numbers are the clubs to go with not just shiny bits of metal!
These irons look good. If you like Mizuno!
I wounded if they feel like a Mizuno too?
I've been playing the 825Pros for the last few years ... I'm about ready for a new set, and I'm thinking these might be worth switching to.
James.....it would be interesting to see a side by side review of these against the old TM RAC TP’s 😉
The new raw version look fucking incredible !
Nice edit on this review! Boy are those gorgeous 😍
Great new range from Taylormade...... look awesome 😃⛳️😃
They look great! Great to see you at Golf catcher academy. Been in conversations with Paul. Trying to get him to open up one in Norfolk. Hope he does
The spin numbers are a little concerning. Will be interested to see these compared to the JPX921 Forged / MMC
Rick Shields just changed to these irons. The main test was out of rough.
The difference in enthusiasm for these irons was marked!
I would absolutely love a set of the mb’s but I only got my 760’s Oct last year if I’d known these were coming out I would of waited lol bloody typical that is
Very very very curious how these MC’s compare to the P760s in terms of distance between the two
Great review James and taylormade have nailed it with this range of irons
I personally prefer the Mizuno range, but these do look like good irons.
I'm not a fan of the lines on the back and I went over to TGW to see what custom options were available and they're even charging for grips 😏
Might want to look elsewhere then. If you play with custom options on Taylormade's website there are multiple grips that are no upcharge. TGW doesn't even give you the option to select that standard Z-Grip that comes on the irons when ordering them custom.
@Dwayne S - I agree about the lines on the back. Not only are they unattractive, they are also a trap for mud in the winter months,
I would definitely play with those irons
I’m thinking about MP20 MB/MMC combo set (currently set: 850 Forged). 620 CB was also in the mix. Might explore P7MB/CB combo. Also interested in NewLevel 902 and sub70 639. Need a full fitting and my local shop in under for renovation
I’ve been playing the mmc for 6 months now best irons out there for feel and forgiveness before I got them I had 620 cb that replaced my 716 cb did not like new cb at all went to mmc never looked back
2222skinny: thanks, mate. MMC’s are at the top of my list. MB’s really just for looks/ego. 850 Forged feel is great, but I need new shafts and proper fitting (bought used as-is) so good excuse to get a new set.
There are so many great irons available these days that it’s hard to pick one out of the pack. I’m curious about how people who sell clubs feel about the year to year turnover.
Do you think TM is chasing Mizunos on looks?
Great looking irons. There specs are very similar to the 2011 TP MC's, just a stripped down version. Great video.
TM have really lapped the competition with the new releases, Sim driver/woods, these new irons .. stunning. Do not see anything from the competitors that excites me like this new line.,
Spin depends on strike. If you can’t hit it out of the middle then you don’t really know what they spin. Watch rick shields for real review
Look identical to my Mizuno MP 64s and they’re 7 years old!
I’m undecided between the 770s and P7MC. I play off 15 and have high ball flight and currently hit a 7i 170 yards. Worried 770s be too high ball flight and not stop and P7MC I’m not good enough to use!!? Any advice please??
Do u think hitting from the mat could have resulted in some low spin results? Be interesting to see some outdoor numbers. Another good vid 👍
Could just be his swing and playing a lower spin ball. I hit them the other day on a track man with a prov1x and was spinning the 7 iron 7000+ and the 4 iron around 4500. For me they spin around 500 rpm more than the 770.
Do you think upgrading to these irons from my Callaway razr x forged clubs from 2012 would be a good idea?? Are the lofts similar??
P770,s for me but if I was a better player then the MC,s they both look amazing
I'm in no way in my youth but I don't like the look of the P7MC. I've never seen the RAC irons but looking at these I could tell they were going for some sort of nostalgia vote.
Ordered the 770s
Random question would you ever play a round against Rick shields, Peter finch and Matt fryer think it would be great content playing a 4 ball tournament at 4 courses of each golfers choice as I would rate all 4 of use the best golf TH-camrs
Cheers Carl, every time I’ve mentioned it the lads are busy so prob won’t happen. Appreciate being in your top 4 🤘🏼
@@JamesRobinsonGolf massive shame but always love your content!!
I agree Carl, that would be a awesome to watch those four play a full 18 hole challenge.
Bloody hell I’m exhausted watching Robbo on speed! 😂
What handicap do you think could play these James?
I honestly think they could suit anyone with decent ball striking. No doubt not as forgiving as 770 or 790 in particular but still a bit there
@@JamesRobinsonGolf thanks for taking the time to reply James 👍
I'm not really sure your offset issue makes any sense because the offset specs for the P7MC are all lower (except 4 iron and 5 iron, which are .008 and .003 difference) ...humanly not possible to tell that difference. From 6 iron through PW, the P7MC has specs that are all lower offset than the Mizuno MP20.
Trust me it’s possible. Honest opinion
James Robinson Golf Gotcha. Keep up the awesome videos man. Thx!
Can you compare the p770 to the Cobra forged tec irons
I'm nervous..ordered a split set 770/P7MC..to replace my Srixon 565/765.. Set..how do these7 MCs compare with the 765s??. Espically forgiveness..same? More? Less?..The taylormade aren't being released till Sept 14th..
I probably should have asked before I ordered them, but..I was going to restart the Srixons anyway and with my military discount and trade in it only cost me $200 more to buy these..
As much as these new irons look totally awesome, my 15 year old TM RAC OS HTs will be my 2020 clubs... possibly even my 2030 clubs
bought them today. Played 18. Ugh! Much clunkier then my old Miz MCs. I will return them for blades, Miz or TMs 7 MB
Why do Taylormade bring out new irons so soon after their last models, do they go further, do they spin more, do they feel better? And it’s not just Taylormade other companies do it as well.
We know it’s the strike that will make us all better not always the club but it just seems to myself they bring a new model out every year or so, and being honest James it’s more or less the same the same sales pitch from them.
Only my point of view I’m not saying I’m 100% correct it just seems that way. Good stuff James 👍
Are these suitable for 14 handicapper as I’ve heard so many bad things about p790 and how inconsistent with distance and not stopping on greens too!?
Yes mate definitely try them
Still got the Old RAC clubs in the garage , TM always make good clubs ! Wots the price point ??
Being sold for £850
£850.00 !! What !!
Andy Linacre quite cheap in today’s market
Done my money on a new putter ! Hope it works
Good review James but the clubs are a bit pricey!
Yes mate unfortunately all golf clubs seem to be on the rise
Best iron ever since the 2014 MC
Mats always spin lower
£899 in shops 6 irons im told we see 👍⛳😍👌
P770 would be my pick
The intro you look wasted 🍺 have you been celebrating that you have those gorgeous irons in your possession 👍🏻🏌🏻♂️⛳️
Do I??? 😂😂😂
Probsbly is all the way🍺🍺🍺🍺
James has to buy too many pints when he looses to a 25 handicapper. Cheers mate, keep up the great content.
Mizuno vs TaylorMade irons (video idea ?)
Mizuno
Rick Shiels just added those to his bag.
They look like my Mizuno Mp H4 irons
What are they. Semi blades ? Blades ?
Small cavity backs 🤘🏼
Play a round with three balls and use a set of clubs for each 👍
They look like Srixon z745’s.
what a bput the p760???
nobody is talking about them anymore...
have you tried them? how are the p7mc compared to the p760???
They’re now obsolete I believe mate. I didn’t mind them but felt very firm when I tested. I believe there is a review on my channel 🤘🏼
@@JamesRobinsonGolf thanks for your answer!
i was fitted with them and i ordered them... should i cancel the order and test the new ones?
Very informative! I may be completely wrong but I feel like these clubs can compete with the T200's (among other brands). If you had to pick one up, which one would you choose to game?
These absolutely do not compete with the TS200s - those are hot faced, low lofted, low spinning rocket ships. Better comparison is the Mizuno JPX 921 Tours or the Titleist CB's. I personally think they should have made them with a tungsten plug in the 7,,6,5, and 4 irons and thus made them compete against the TS100(S) or Mizuno MMCs which will be easier to hit in the mid and long irons. Reality is almost no one will buy the blades or MCs and the 770s will get all the sales
They are growing on me...thought they were average at first
@ James Robinson you rushed through this one !! Guess you did not enjoy them
For me they are a copy of Srixon Z7xx range and they are a bargain against TM with almost half the price with plenty of shaft options.
Iook nice!
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Anyone else seeing the similarities with XForged 19 ?
Callaway Xforged r fantastic. Only hope the new xforged (when/if they release) have a little less offset. If more people tried (and felt the solidity) of the one piece forged they wouldn’t even bother with the “hollow” clubs. Hopefully the hollow n foam injection is a fad. Also, the forgiveness is a myth. Either u hit it close to the center or u don’t.
Taylormade RAC TP iron sets are $200 on eBay. 🤷🏻♂️
It's the 1299 price tag that I'm pissed with
P7MC got R9TP vibes
These are Rick Shiels new clubs he just put into his bag
I'm so confused now! Sheesh...choices, decisions...
Not sure James get it sometimes.
Dude, they’re not going left because of your perception of “offset,” it’s your swing mate and you’re indoors.
Get them outdoors in grass and then let’s hear your review on offset, spin and launch.
I get I mate. Trust me I get it. But also... offset does make the ball go left for certain people... indoor or out
James Robinson Golf I listened to the Trottie podcast, and it sounds like they have almost gone to onset on these, and I’ve heard they have 17 sets/clubs built and 16 in play, so I was just curious about the look to your eye, since adoption has been really high from early reports
In the Jonzone I think your talking about the MB mate. Definitely progressive onset on the MC. 🤘🏼 sounds like you’ve had plenty of clubs. Enjoy!
Progressive offset* 😂😂😂 I cant even type anymore
El hosele
Aren't the grooves supposed to be on the FRONT of the club head!!! The look of the rear cavity is positively REPULSIVE! 🤮 Thought the RAC was hideous as well. But I *WILL* be using the George Foreman tonight to make a few burgers! 🍔🍔
whats your handicap?
Less is more. Stop with the very annoying introduction with the same annoying lines that you blab out at the start of each videos. After a while it becomes very off putting.Less videos with higher quality like Rick does. Hence why he gets so many views.
Why would I want to be like someone else? I love what I do and I am who I am. Nobody forces you to come here Michael. The fact you’ve left numerous comments complaining about something which you really don’t need to worry about is a big weird.
Bombtech
Better but left. Say it ain't so.
Not gonna lie, to be fair....
First
Lol. So why did you walk over to the chair for just a few comments? Advertise much?
Second
Thanks for the video. You have probably gotten this before but you have a major glitch in your takeaway that when looked after will make a big difference in your overall swing. Sorry mate, we’re all professionals. lol
Trust me it won’t buddy. That’s for the advice but after spinal surgery I’ll stick to what I can repeat
James Robinson Golf I have a double fusion to report so you have nothing on me. The glitch has nothing to do with your back. Good luck with it.
Nelson James you know what Nelson. I’ll stick to what all my coaches any physios say. Not so sure where your spiteful comments come from as all I’ve done is reply with good manners and good feelings. Good luck with your life and I hope you don’t feel so negatively about things in the future.
James Robinson Golf you’re taking this far too seriously. No intent to be spiteful; I have nothing against you. I just noticed something obvious. Don’t worry about it. No need to be sensitive.Anyway, check your first move with your wrist and I’ll never comment again. I didn’t mean to hurt your feelings, honest.
Nelson James as you said. Guess we’re all pros aren’t we. 👍🏼
Stay out of the pub chubby
Hideous