I have to say. The professional nature of these reviews has gotten really good. Looks like you have really found your niche and the videos are really pleasant to watch.
Ordered full set of P770 3-PW w/ KBS 120 stiff shafts, since I was not quite sure My skills are up to par for the P7MC yet! Hit only the 7 iron of the P770 in fitting booth, but love at first swing. My old 20 year old irons were ping i-3 O-size, so quite a jump. Also, I’m in my mid 40’s, so cannot hurt to have the tech assistance at this point. Funny thing is originally I had ordered P7MB based on looks and I have played blades in my teens, but decided way over ambitious!! Have received only the P770 - 3 iron so far and wow is it balanced. Cannot wait till spring in NY!!
I would play any of them I like the look of them both i already play with the taylormade p790 and they are absolutely amazing irons and I couldn't change them mark
Strongly considering a mix bag with 770s for low irons and mcs for 7 iron to PW. Very helpful info! Still going to have to test them out myself of course and get fitted properly 😀
Love that TM have really come out with these good looking clubs. All the other jazz aside I'm glad they decided to but their twists and turns behind the face on these boys... LOL
Damit Mark, your confusing the hell outta me! For a guy who is suppose to hate Taylormade, you have alot of great things to say about these irons. Can't wait until your bag is full of these irons. Thanks for your honest OPINIONS on clubs, I've learned a ton watching your vids over the years. Keep up the good fight between advertising and just good equipment.
Mark, serious question regarding your combo comment with the 770 being 10 yards longer than the MC. I believe you have said in the past that most handicap golfers 4 & 5 irons usually go around the same distance and is the reason you champion Hybrids to replace the 4, if not the 5 as well. Given your thoughts, don't you think that the 770's in the 4 & 5, being 10 yards longer than the MC, might actually blend them in nicely at the 6 iron. I understand it was probably only a small data set but would be interesting to see what the numbers were on the 4 & 5 irons, now that obviously TM are in love with MC again. 🥰
Hit the 7 irons of both on a launch monitor and got the same(ish) results. 8 yards further and 500 less spin with the P770. Really didn’t expect that much difference.
As always, Mark is spot on... I tested both indoors, the 770 was an immediate winner in 3 balls. I know the MC would work after zeroing in on the setup, but the 770 with Nippon Modus 120 matched up perfectly with my PSI Tour that I'm playing now.
Waiting for my P770s to arrive. Never really wanted a TM iron before although nearly considered P790. I was surprised by how good they looked at address and how good they felt as well. Can’t wait to game them.
Tried both. Loved the P7MC on trackman and on course....so easy to hit and shape and great feel /feedback.👍🏽 think there is a new iron making its way into my bag😇
I've been lucky enough to hit both the 770 and mc and I definitely prefer the mc in terms of looks and performance. Going for a fitting over the weekend to get dialed in.
My P7MC 7 thru P (ProjectX LZ 6.0) showed up on my doorstep a week early. They are replacing P760 with Project X Rifle 6.0 shafts. Initial impression, MC has thinner top line and sole than the P760 - reviews that make the MC out to be much more compact than the P760 are overblown. More compact yes, not significantly different to my eye. After 100 balls at the range, they feel solid and I definitely picked up a club length on an average strike. They feel solid! The P760 Rife shafts had a lot of kick that I liked. I don't get that same kick from the LZ shaft but I got the sense I could go after the ball hard and it stays on line. If I had swung the P760 like that I would have pulled it hard left. Very excited to play 18 tomorrow.
When you look at the small market of the Titleist CBs, I think Taylormade should have considered using a hidden Tungsten plug in the toe of the club in the 7,6,5,4,3 irons, like Mizuno MMCs or Titleist TS100s, to make them sellable to a larger market. I played the Taylormade C300 Cavity Backed blades (Tom Lehman clubs) for 20 years and loved them. I'd buy this type of P7MC set with a modern lofted 32 degree 7 iron if it had the tiniest bit of hidden Tungsten help in the longer irons - preferred lofts (47,42,37,32,28,24,21)
Ive an ex demo 7 iron p7mc and a ex demo p770 7 iron 2019 model ...the best total I've got on p770 is 210 the best on p7mc is 190 .. the p770 absolutely flies if you connect. More precision needed on p7mc..haven't decided yet which I'll go for, just yet. P770 probably slightly favourite currently. But p7mc going to be better at shaping. Probably don't need distance so will test on course a bit more. I carry them both all the time.
The MC isn’t going to be out for fitting until April in the United States is what my fitter told me. The 770 is out now though. Just thought that was strange
You did well there Brah! If Coach was there you two would have had some worthwhile out-takes for the end of year special!! TaylorMade was a brand I used to respect thirty years ago. Too much aggressive marketing and nonsense now for me to listen to a word they say. Irons you say? Mizuno I say!
Great product.....but TM are a pain. After a bloody brilliant fitting at the Wentworth Performance Lab mine have been ordered. Combo 770 (4&5) MC (6-PW). Really pleased....apart from TM cocking up the launch. Have to wait til mid October to get the MC’s and mid November for the 770’s. Yes....TM are sending me two orders for one set of irons. Brilliant product. Shit planning for such a huge launch.
Another positive is PW at 46 degrees... on my fit I saw 2yd loss versus my Apex CF19 7i which is 30.5 degree - 2.5 degrees stronger - 163 vs 165... using similar weight shafts. The Apex PW at 43 degrees a real PIA.
I have the P770 4-PW but the more I use them, the more I notice that the sweetspot is a tad higher up and when you button them, they go long. Easy 20 yard front to back on a quarter inch strike difference. Probably pick up a used set of MCs and combo them.
I’ve totally bought into the idea of launch help below the 7 iron. My big question about the 770 would be forgiveness on toe strikes. They look fantastic.
That’s good to know. I play Hot Metal Pro from a few years back but I’ve always been interested in this line. HMP is pretty forgiving but I like the potential of the hollow/ foam concept. Thanks for the feedback.
At what yardage/loft do average players distances start to bunch up? Maybe it would work well to go MC to hollow at 6 or 5 iron and just leave the lofts as is to accommodate for that? Have to verify it in a gap test but it seems feasible. Good work as always Mr. Crossfield.
Just got the p7mc irons and was shocked at how easy they were to hit cause they look pretty intimidating but super easy to hit traded my 790s the mc irons are so much more consistent
I have the original P770 irons and am interested in how they compare to the P7MC and the new P770. They have the look of P7MC with tungsten weighting in the long irons.
I think the point here is, the entire P series is one of the best to come from taylormade in the last 8-10 years. If you have been watching Mr Crossfield for approximately that long you would know that Mark was quite skeptical of all the crazy claims and fast release cycles of their irons and every iron coming out with speed slot, then speed pocket, then speed foam, then both slots and foam, TM was a company that was being ridiculed by a lot of players even though their tech was actually doing something. A little LA DI DA as Mark C used to put it, but the amazing thing here is... The tech is definitely there in teh 770s with the 10yd increase in distance so yes, its doing it's thing whatever "it" is... (speed foams) BTW, I play the Mark Crossfield (p7mc) 3-pw despite my handicap being much higher than 5-7... :) They just feel great and when you do hit that sweet spot it's magical...
I hit the 770s against the Mizuno MMCs the other day, the 770s for me were spinning ~1600-2000 lower than the Mizunos or my regular irons (AP2s). I know some people haven't had that problem, but for me i'd be too worried about the really long one with the 770s.
I'm almost due a new set of irons.. mine are over 10 years old now and the P7MCs would be my first choice (pre-fitting) but the price is just mega these days... over 1k GBP
To truly maximize ball speed across the face and test the advantages of the speed pocket, you must use the TP5 ball with it’s xl low compression core that increases launch angle and reduces drag. 😉
@@MarkCrossfield not trying to say that they are different from anything. just merely stating that the increase in distance may have been caused by the increase in ball speed, which is probably caused by their hollow body/ foam filled etc construction. which is basically their laa dee daa :)
It'd be really interesting to see a comparison between three very similarly designed clubs: the P7MC, Bridgestone J40 Cavity, and (my) Mizuno MP-64. They all follow the idea of a muscle cavity with some weight right behind the ball in a triangular shape. I wonder which would come out 'best' in your opinion...
I like Marks channel but I much preferred the old videos where he was more interested in coaching students rather than talking about his own game ..... ⛳️👍
I’ve always thought TM irons looked too busy but these look so much sleeker. Don’t think they will be challenging my t100s for a space in the bag though
Great looking clubs, TM have made a winner with this range.. just a shame now almost all new sets of irons are now 3 times the price of what they were 3/4 years ago.. was I asleep when they discovered the huge tech breakthrough to warrant the price increase???? 💤 I have a 2nd set that are blades with similar lines to these that are 20+ years old!! I bet I can get the same numbers 😆 from both sets
Good spot, the additional distance is coming more from the additional 4 mph ball speed rather than the lower spin! The tech much be adding a little something. Comboing will probably happen naturally at the 8 perhaps 9 iron for Mr Crossfield’s delivery, so no need for two 6 irons. Lofts can always be tweaked if a specific transition point is desired.
Would be good to see what his clubhead speed was with both of the clubs. I mean the average carry distance was 10 yards more - but the average ball speed was 4 mph more. Is that due to higher smash factor on account of the 1 degree of loft difference, or was there any difference in swing speed?
I have to say. The professional nature of these reviews has gotten really good. Looks like you have really found your niche and the videos are really pleasant to watch.
Just been fitted for the p770 very happy with the numbers and ball flight order went in straight away 👍
Ordered full set of P770 3-PW w/ KBS 120 stiff shafts, since I was not quite sure My skills are up to par for the P7MC yet! Hit only the 7 iron of the P770 in fitting booth, but love at first swing. My old 20 year old irons were ping i-3 O-size, so quite a jump. Also, I’m in my mid 40’s, so cannot hurt to have the tech assistance at this point. Funny thing is originally I had ordered P7MB based on looks and I have played blades in my teens, but decided way over ambitious!! Have received only the P770 - 3 iron so far and wow is it balanced. Cannot wait till spring in NY!!
My P•770s arrived today, can’t wait to take them out tomorrow!
I would play any of them I like the look of them both i already play with the taylormade p790 and they are absolutely amazing irons and I couldn't change them mark
“They’ve got my initials on it.” Just fell off my chair. Absolutely brilliant!
The design of the P7MC reminds me of my 2003 set of Nike Pro Combo Forged irons, which I still play and still love.
Great video Mark. Had a hit and love the p770 MC.
Nice review that mark, one of the more enjoyable ones to watch lately
Strongly considering a mix bag with 770s for low irons and mcs for 7 iron to PW. Very helpful info! Still going to have to test them out myself of course and get fitted properly 😀
Love that TM have really come out with these good looking clubs. All the other jazz aside I'm glad they decided to but their twists and turns behind the face on these boys... LOL
I like the P770. They look outstanding along with P790
Excellent review Mark, like you said totally unbiased, I’ve just been fitted for the P790’s.
Damit Mark, your confusing the hell outta me! For a guy who is suppose to hate Taylormade, you have alot of great things to say about these irons. Can't wait until your bag is full of these irons. Thanks for your honest OPINIONS on clubs, I've learned a ton watching your vids over the years. Keep up the good fight between advertising and just good equipment.
Mark, serious question regarding your combo comment with the 770 being 10 yards longer than the MC. I believe you have said in the past that most handicap golfers 4 & 5 irons usually go around the same distance and is the reason you champion Hybrids to replace the 4, if not the 5 as well. Given your thoughts, don't you think that the 770's in the 4 & 5, being 10 yards longer than the MC, might actually blend them in nicely at the 6 iron. I understand it was probably only a small data set but would be interesting to see what the numbers were on the 4 & 5 irons, now that obviously TM are in love with MC again. 🥰
The Mark Crossfield irons are back and they look stunning😎
I left taylormade a few years ago after 15 years but the MCs might bring me back
Quality content as usual, Mark. The video is just as good as the clubs 😍
Hit the 7 irons of both on a launch monitor and got the same(ish) results. 8 yards further and 500 less spin with the P770. Really didn’t expect that much difference.
Got a set arriving in a few weeks, 4/5 in the P7MC and 6-PW in the P7MB, can’t wait!
I play the Ping i200, and the MC is going on my Santa list as the replacement irons for them.
As always, Mark is spot on... I tested both indoors, the 770 was an immediate winner in 3 balls. I know the MC would work after zeroing in on the setup, but the 770 with Nippon Modus 120 matched up perfectly with my PSI Tour that I'm playing now.
Good job I’ve just seen this after ordering a set of P70-MC’s this afternoon 😂 good review Mark
Waiting for my P770s to arrive. Never really wanted a TM iron before although nearly considered P790. I was surprised by how good they looked at address and how good they felt as well. Can’t wait to game them.
played taylormade os irons like 20 years ago something - but their iron range currently is stunning - love the mc and their new blade too
Tried both. Loved the P7MC on trackman and on course....so easy to hit and shape and great feel /feedback.👍🏽 think there is a new iron making its way into my bag😇
I've been lucky enough to hit both the 770 and mc and I definitely prefer the mc in terms of looks and performance. Going for a fitting over the weekend to get dialed in.
My P7MC 7 thru P (ProjectX LZ 6.0) showed up on my doorstep a week early. They are replacing P760 with Project X Rifle 6.0 shafts. Initial impression, MC has thinner top line and sole than the P760 - reviews that make the MC out to be much more compact than the P760 are overblown. More compact yes, not significantly different to my eye. After 100 balls at the range, they feel solid and I definitely picked up a club length on an average strike. They feel solid! The P760 Rife shafts had a lot of kick that I liked. I don't get that same kick from the LZ shaft but I got the sense I could go after the ball hard and it stays on line. If I had swung the P760 like that I would have pulled it hard left. Very excited to play 18 tomorrow.
When you look at the small market of the Titleist CBs, I think Taylormade should have considered using a hidden Tungsten plug in the toe of the club in the 7,6,5,4,3 irons, like Mizuno MMCs or Titleist TS100s, to make them sellable to a larger market. I played the Taylormade C300 Cavity Backed blades (Tom Lehman clubs) for 20 years and loved them. I'd buy this type of P7MC set with a modern lofted 32 degree 7 iron if it had the tiniest bit of hidden Tungsten help in the longer irons - preferred lofts (47,42,37,32,28,24,21)
I got my Taylormade P770 4-Aw to day. Im the first person in Norway to get them. The releasen date is 09.04 but i've got the before 😍
I think Taylormade extended the olive branch to Mark naming their new club the "MC". Really thorough review as usual.
Just bought MC can’t wait for them to arrive 👍
😂😂 loved the outro, as I think I know what marks talking about
the P770s do look amazing from the back
I’ve had burner 2.0 then rocketbladz irons and currently using M2 irons which are fabulous
Mark you left the camera behind at the end 😉
If I was in the market for irons the P770 would be 1,2 & 3 on my list. Simply stunning. Think my Ping’s owe me a few more years yet though.
Been waiting for this video 👌
5-7 770. 8-PW mc 770 little hotter more distance where needed. MC for shorter more feeling shots. Done. 👍🏻🏆
Ive an ex demo 7 iron p7mc and a ex demo p770 7 iron 2019 model ...the best total I've got on p770 is 210 the best on p7mc is 190 .. the p770 absolutely flies if you connect. More precision needed on p7mc..haven't decided yet which I'll go for, just yet. P770 probably slightly favourite currently. But p7mc going to be better at shaping. Probably don't need distance so will test on course a bit more. I carry them both all the time.
Playing 8 year TM Cb Forged now. Really am looking with great interest in the P770s og MCs.
I think I would go for the p770 for 7.8.9 and the p7mc 4.5.6.give you a bit more help with the lower clubs..and add the 3 driving iron..what a set
The MC isn’t going to be out for fitting until April in the United States is what my fitter told me. The 770 is out now though. Just thought that was strange
Hi Mark great stuff. I’d be interested in you hitting an old Burner 2.0 Driver and see what the numbers are.
You did well there Brah! If Coach was there you two would have had some worthwhile out-takes for the end of year special!! TaylorMade was a brand I used to respect thirty years ago. Too much aggressive marketing and nonsense now for me to listen to a word they say. Irons you say? Mizuno I say!
Great product.....but TM are a pain.
After a bloody brilliant fitting at the Wentworth Performance Lab mine have been ordered. Combo 770 (4&5) MC (6-PW). Really pleased....apart from
TM cocking up the launch. Have to wait til mid October to get the MC’s and mid November for the 770’s. Yes....TM are sending me two orders for one set of irons.
Brilliant product. Shit planning for such a huge launch.
I just love your swing, Mark.
Lovely looking kit....I can't imagine ever being tempted away from my r9's though. If I ever did change, i'd be looking at Taylormade options first.
Another positive is PW at 46 degrees... on my fit I saw 2yd loss versus my Apex CF19 7i which is 30.5 degree - 2.5 degrees stronger - 163 vs 165... using similar weight shafts. The Apex PW at 43 degrees a real PIA.
Great review MC, does it come with different letters?
I have the P770 4-PW but the more I use them, the more I notice that the sweetspot is a tad higher up and when you button them, they go long. Easy 20 yard front to back on a quarter inch strike difference. Probably pick up a used set of MCs and combo them.
Crossfield joins TM staff !
Seen couple of views on these and they look really great
P7 Mark Crossfield (mc). We all made up. Glad for the peace in the golf community
Really like the p770 want to game them but the would not be right for my high handy cap wish all irons looked like these
There both nice but if I had to choose it would have to be the Mizuno 921 tour/ forged .
Lovely looking irons Mark. But the price is massive. Love the new Power Caddy by the way
I’ve totally bought into the idea of launch help below the 7 iron.
My big question about the 770 would be forgiveness on toe strikes. They look fantastic.
I got fitted today and went with the 770 for the mishits.....near NO difference. Crazy.
That’s good to know. I play Hot Metal Pro from a few years back but I’ve always been interested in this line. HMP is pretty forgiving but I like the potential of the hollow/ foam concept. Thanks for the feedback.
At what yardage/loft do average players distances start to bunch up? Maybe it would work well to go MC to hollow at 6 or 5 iron and just leave the lofts as is to accommodate for that? Have to verify it in a gap test but it seems feasible. Good work as always Mr. Crossfield.
Would of loved to get your input on the P7MB Mark.
Just got the p7mc irons and was shocked at how easy they were to hit cause they look pretty intimidating but super easy to hit traded my 790s the mc irons are so much more consistent
Looking at making the switch to mc irons from 790 how did you find it?
I have the original P770 irons and am interested in how they compare to the P7MC and the new P770. They have the look of P7MC with tungsten weighting in the long irons.
Nice to see the feud is over & TM have let you help design a new club, when are you going to start using your MC Proto's
I'm curious if your opinion would change 2 years later and have these bent to your liking instead of off the shelf.
I think the point here is, the entire P series is one of the best to come from taylormade in the last 8-10 years. If you have been watching Mr Crossfield for approximately that long you would know that Mark was quite skeptical of all the crazy claims and fast release cycles of their irons and every iron coming out with speed slot, then speed pocket, then speed foam, then both slots and foam, TM was a company that was being ridiculed by a lot of players even though their tech was actually doing something. A little LA DI DA as Mark C used to put it, but the amazing thing here is... The tech is definitely there in teh 770s with the 10yd increase in distance so yes, its doing it's thing whatever "it" is... (speed foams)
BTW, I play the Mark Crossfield (p7mc) 3-pw despite my handicap being much higher than 5-7... :) They just feel great and when you do hit that sweet spot it's magical...
I hit the 770s against the Mizuno MMCs the other day, the 770s for me were spinning ~1600-2000 lower than the Mizunos or my regular irons (AP2s). I know some people haven't had that problem, but for me i'd be too worried about the really long one with the 770s.
I'm almost due a new set of irons.. mine are over 10 years old now and the P7MCs would be my first choice (pre-fitting) but the price is just mega these days... over 1k GBP
I’d like to see a comparison between new P770 and old P770 and perhaps P7 MC
To truly maximize ball speed across the face and test the advantages of the speed pocket, you must use the TP5 ball with it’s xl low compression core that increases launch angle and reduces drag. 😉
Tried both , 770 are HOT ... MC are fun and cool
Would be a tough choice , trying to build a combo package ...
What handicap would you recommend for each one?
significant ball speed numbers between the two. laa dee daa :)
I am confused you think that club is different to any other hollow body similar CG lofted iron?
@@MarkCrossfield not trying to say that they are different from anything. just merely stating that the increase in distance may have been caused by the increase in ball speed, which is probably caused by their hollow body/ foam filled etc construction. which is basically their laa dee daa :)
Ordered a set of MC 4-pw. Its brilliant ;)
Did you receive your set yet? Still waiting on mine
@@alohaukulele1 Received in mid November.
Another really good review! Always so helpful 👍
Did you check the lofts yourself? Very surprising numbers from the indoor data
It'd be really interesting to see a comparison between three very similarly designed clubs: the P7MC, Bridgestone J40 Cavity, and (my) Mizuno MP-64. They all follow the idea of a muscle cavity with some weight right behind the ball in a triangular shape. I wonder which would come out 'best' in your opinion...
Would you recommend doing a combo set with the 770 and MC?
The hollow heads tend to fly further. Can you please review PXG 0311T Gen 3 as well which I think is the best of the hollow head design?
I have the TM tour preferred MB 2014. Still cant see a reason to change
I like Marks channel but I much preferred the old videos where he was more interested in coaching students rather than talking about his own game ..... ⛳️👍
I prefer the mc. Reminds me of the mizuno cut muscle cavities. Also the lofts are correct, not weaker, not more traditional, correct.
IT GOT MY INITIALS ON IT!!! 😂😂😂 TM gibing you some love Mark
Totally agree with you there bruh they do look very nice 👍
I’ve always thought TM irons looked too busy but these look so much sleeker. Don’t think they will be challenging my t100s for a space in the bag though
Are these irons adjustable as they have uprightness on the hosels? Or is just what the demo clubs that Mark is using have been made as?
Great vid! Thank you.
Great looking clubs, TM have made a winner with this range.. just a shame now almost all new sets of irons are now 3 times the price of what they were 3/4 years ago.. was I asleep when they discovered the huge tech breakthrough to warrant the price increase???? 💤
I have a 2nd set that are blades with similar lines to these that are 20+ years old!! I bet I can get the same numbers 😆 from both sets
Nothing wrong with using a Powercaddy 😇 I’ll nvr go back to a push or pull trolley, and yes I’m old too 😜
The MC’s are almost exactly like the Japanese r9 TP forged irons (2010?) my buddy plays.
Thx really like both (looks) will test them this month. Question, what brand/type electric trolley do you use?
TM loves Mark again. So much that they named a club after him. The P7MC. #taylormadelovesmc
Mark can you do a MB and MC review in these please and see what figures you get and see if they would work as a good combo?
What’s the red/blue marks on the hosel about?
Combo with 790s would seem more way to go. Thoughts Mark?
Is the P7MC a step up from Titleist 718 AP2. If looking for more forgiveness would the 770 provide this?
Great review Mark. What is causing the 4mph extra ball speed?
sped foamz
Good spot, the additional distance is coming more from the additional 4 mph ball speed rather than the lower spin! The tech much be adding a little something.
Comboing will probably happen naturally at the 8 perhaps 9 iron for Mr Crossfield’s delivery, so no need for two 6 irons.
Lofts can always be tweaked if a specific transition point is desired.
Mark, what do the numbers printed on the club mean? 2° for example. Is loft or lie that's 2° up? Thanks
I currently play the callaway apex pros. Would the MC be a good comparison to those
Would be good to see what his clubhead speed was with both of the clubs. I mean the average carry distance was 10 yards more - but the average ball speed was 4 mph more. Is that due to higher smash factor on account of the 1 degree of loft difference, or was there any difference in swing speed?
I actually don’t like the back of the P-7MC as much as the P770. So I ordered those.