I understand the worlds best using them for the slight advantages over a MC type of iron. But the p7MC and ping i230 type irons do everything blades do with some extra forgivness.
They are factually not easy to hit. What you mean is you hit the middle of the face 95% of the time and your strike conditions are pretty optimal for you. So these clubs will feel like butter to you and give true consistent spin and distance numbers. What you're neglecting to say is the time you put a shite swing on it (2mm off centre) you will get a massive drop off in distance spin will be out the window and any poor strike conditions will be massively exacerbated by the huge lack of forgiveness these irons hold. In other words a 15 handicapper who flips a little bit and hits every part of the face will NOT think these are easy to hit. Or maybe you just wanted to humble brag 👀
1:35 - quick question. You tried to play a low fade with a 7 iron from 150yards. What did you adjust (from what you would do with a normal shot) in order to try and play this?
We’re all different but if that’s my goal I’ll club up so hit 7 instead of 8, have the ball a bit further back in the stance then normal, but more forward tilt on the shaft then normal. Soft swing since clubbed up, out to in downswing and low hands on the finish
Strange how many average to good players use specialist wedges which are more or less bladed clubs but wouldn't go near a bladed iron like this. It certainly makes me think I should blend my irons next time I have a fit
Great video, guys! Glad you enjoyed California - and how could you not?! Collin plays the P770 in the 4-iron, I believe. And I think Tiger plays the P770 3-iron, or did at one point. One takeaway is that even the world's best ball-strikers won't say no to a little help. And don't forget that Collin switches from blades to cavity-back MCs in his short irons as well, for The Open and (I think) The Scottish Open. Although that's not because they're more forgiving, per se, but rather because of a very subtle difference in turf interaction. Well, maybe not so subtle. If I remember right, what he said was that, using the P730s in Scotland, he "couldn't find the center of the face." 😝 But among amateurs and pros, we're all different. I'm a 3 hcp, and I play big, fat, forgiving hollow-bodies in 5-7, blades in 8-PW, and then back to to a hollow-cavity CBX2 wedge in 52º...and then a bladed 58º wedge! So whatever gets it in the hole.
3:14 - That club looks so good! I love my 3i and if it was removed from my bag I would not want to play. Sadly, I can’t get anything LH in Taylormade irons other than their super chunky series club.
These things are absolutely beautiful! I had a test with the MB’s this week…out of the middle feels incredible! However……🫣I hit a few thin ones…😵💫 So not for me but they’d look fabulous in the bag! 🤣👍🏻
Started golfing in 2019. Im a decent to a really good athlete. Played high level hockey since 4 years old. Started off golf using Mizuno 919 forged at a 15 handicap. Following year switched to the P770s dropped down to a 12 and switched again to the Mizuno 921 Tours. I found absolutely no difference in "forgiveness". Its either I hit the shot or not. More variables in the the way I swing to make contact and all natural factors than the marginal "forgiveness" in hitting around the club face.
About Morikawa using the P7MC in the long iron and MBs is the short (Taylormade calls it P7CM), I think that this is just a publicity stunt. I bought the original P7MC and MB in 2020 and quite honestly, I don't think the MC is more forgiving. In fact, they play almost the same in my opinion, with the MC having a little bit more offset. Morikawa is not going to play better with the MC as the long iron.
Blades are the easiest to hit straight probably because there is no offset and the flight tends to be lower and penetrating. I can handle a few toe mis-hits because they still go straight. The biggest challenge is a long iron in thick rough, but the courses i play have rough that basically lifts the ball up on a tee. I'm short so ball striking is easier for me than tall players. I cannot play well with my son's stealth irons. They launch left with a slight draw, and when I try to fade the ball I cannot find any consistancy.
Colin is playing for a completely different reason to the average club golfer. It's his job, so I guess it's to be expected that he's going to use clubs within the realms of his contractual obligations that he gets the best numbers with. For the average club golfer, use blades or don't. I used a split set of MP-18 SC/MB with the 7-PW being MB and got from 17 to 11 this season, and 5 comp wins and runner up in the club champs. I love using them and yeah I hit bad shots, but i'd do that with any club. I just prefer to feel it when I do it.
These aren’t hard to hit. Blades actually require to hit the center of the face thus improving your general strike, allowing you to have more consistent yardages and misses. I’m an 8.5 hcp and I hit these yesterday and have no issue finding the center. Do they suit my eye? No. The 7mcs do and feel better in my opinion, but I wouldn’t steer people away from blades without letting them feel the beauty of the center of the face. Nothing compares to the center of a blade. (In golf)
Unlikely someone index 5 and above plays blades but just get fit. Also does not matter what pros play, they can change their clubs every week at no cost.
I love a small muscleback blade. I have mizuno 221's at the moment, these look like a worthy competitor from taylormade. My experience may not be the norm because my first set of irons were maxfli aussie blades when I was very young...but I keep coming back to blades because of the feedback. With more "forgiving" irons I seem to slowly develop bad habits without realizing it. With blades I know right away what is going on.
Why is the younger generation so scared of hitting a blade? Well not even a blade! just a muscle back in general and a forgiving muscle back like this one. Come on now. This has to be the 10 billionth comment I've read where y'all are acting as if trying to hit one of these is going to decapitate you? It's a blade either you can hit it or you can't but it sure is a great training tool to help you find the center of the face more often thus improving your overall ball striking. What's the deal it's just a golf club. Don't be so scared good grief. Y'all are acting like it it's going to give you nightmares. I used a set of Titleist zm blades at a 11 handicap and they taught me to come a much better ball Striker the pure feeling of finding the center of the club face is both buttery and trampoline like at the same time.
@@BuffaloNickel9 I used a friend P.7 TW 3 iron and smashed it straight, 200 meters I'm 30 handicap 55 yrs old, I'm very interested in these P.7 MB as they are much cheaper than TW. I bought 3 iron MB cannot wait to try it out 👍
Bento Assis 4x junior champ 12yo uses cb's 😊 this kid is the future of golf but u never heard of him because PGA kinda because Tigers personal PIAR company for his son (he is great, but not near as some of the best juniors outthere)
Split sets? I have 921 HMBs, I can't work these at all, unlike my previous irons, so should I have a split set? I rarely used to take a short iron around the corner, and a club with drop and stop is fine, any shaping on short irons was about stop. On long irons, yes, getting around trouble was sometimes useful, but they would always have been the game improvers. Running chips, some argument for a bladier one, but I frankly take more full shots with my PW than need a tight chip. And I do have specialist wedges down to GW. My switch is actually - summer, using the 4i as a driving iron, winter use the 4H. Now, if Mizuno was to bring out a 7i HM that felt and looked exactly like the real one, but had blade-like sweet spot and feedback, for practice, hmm. But only an idiot would use it in competition.
Why do you keep saying xander in relation to playing these clubs? He plays callaway irons, woods and an odyssey putter! He plays the apex tcb's and they are brilliant!
People on TH-cam totally oversell how hard blades are to hit. I'm a 1-2 handicap and I find they are easier to hit than a cavity back. If I hit it bad enough that it's going to be a bad shot, having "forgiveness" isn't going to save me. I might as well have the greater shotmaking capabilities. Plus I find smaller heads easier to hit based on the way I swing.
@@RyanMetcalfePGA Yes they do. Same reason drivers these days move less than the smaller heads. Maybe drop an email to one of the manufacturers so they can validate what I’ve said.
@@JamesRobinsonGolf the quality is great. its just the volume levels are really quiet. need to either move them closer to the source, or in post production bring up the levels. love the content though you rock
I love the design of these irons, but them being smaller than the previous version is gonna push me away a bit. I really love that back design on the 7MB's, great review!
James is obviously a very good player, but I'll wager for 90% of players if they stepped DOWN a level or 2 with their irons 90% of their shots would end up with a better result. Watch Peter Finch (a TH-camr who spanks 95% of TH-cam "pros") play with full on basically hybrid ultra game improvement iron and rave about them.
@@JamesRobinsonGolf no, you don't, and neither do most other golfers. I will bet money 95%+ of players would score better on average and lower their handicap over time playing with anywhere from full on hybrid ultra game improvement "irons" to the most forgiving cavity back in the range. No one who's not off positive handicap needs to shape the ball. If your handicap is in the teens you just need to hit it high, straight and minimize the miss hits.
TM would honestly be the last set of blades I'd put in play probably. They look nice enough but I prefer Srixon and Mizuno looks and feel. If I was going blade it'd be because of vanity and purely wanting a set for the hell of it. I'd just go all out and grab a set of Miura 502s.
100% agreed. I currently play the 501s and after hitting the newest line up of the 7 series still nothing compares to Miura. The 7 mcs were the softest and close but the yardages you get in Miura are so tight it’s hard to compare. There are just no fliers or jumpers, good strike = good result. Although with that being said, I did ?upgrade? And get the tc-201s from the Black Friday sale. I couldn’t get the 502s because I felt they weren’t different enough. And I’m all for less offset and more progressive cg weighting
I'd rather play a few shots off and enjoy the clubs i pull out of the bag, than pull out a pig ugly chunky thing i can't stand the look of... as you said, you're out to enjoy yourself.
Got to unfollow you after seeing all your replies in the comments. You seem like you don’t care for what your followers comment or just a sarcastic reply.
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Yes, James put them in the bag! Every time you hit them in the center you'll smile.
Love my last gen P7MB 4-PW KBS 120s love hitting my 4 iron 200+ or 197 with a gorgeous draw.
I understand the worlds best using them for the slight advantages over a MC type of iron. But the p7MC and ping i230 type irons do everything blades do with some extra forgivness.
Believe it or not, they are really easy to hit. I've had the 2020's since they first came out. 4-pw. Best investment!
Handicap ?
@Henry Frankland official 2.4 but its closer to 4
Lol
They are factually not easy to hit. What you mean is you hit the middle of the face 95% of the time and your strike conditions are pretty optimal for you. So these clubs will feel like butter to you and give true consistent spin and distance numbers. What you're neglecting to say is the time you put a shite swing on it (2mm off centre) you will get a massive drop off in distance spin will be out the window and any poor strike conditions will be massively exacerbated by the huge lack of forgiveness these irons hold. In other words a 15 handicapper who flips a little bit and hits every part of the face will NOT think these are easy to hit. Or maybe you just wanted to humble brag 👀
@@markdunstan4240 which irons would you suggest for the 15 hcp
1:35 - quick question. You tried to play a low fade with a 7 iron from 150yards. What did you adjust (from what you would do with a normal shot) in order to try and play this?
We’re all different but if that’s my goal I’ll club up so hit 7 instead of 8, have the ball a bit further back in the stance then normal, but more forward tilt on the shaft then normal.
Soft swing since clubbed up, out to in downswing and low hands on the finish
yeah really great honest review ive added this iron model to my 2024 wishlist which includes the new Wilson staff model 2024 and the Ping Blueprint T
Great to see you gents playing in the USA!
To be fair to Taylormade they always make a nice looking iron especially the P series and their Woods look pretty good too. Great review James
Strange how many average to good players use specialist wedges which are more or less bladed clubs but wouldn't go near a bladed iron like this. It certainly makes me think I should blend my irons next time I have a fit
Does all the paint full off this version as well?
Only the paint on the numbers
Great video, guys! Glad you enjoyed California - and how could you not?!
Collin plays the P770 in the 4-iron, I believe. And I think Tiger plays the P770 3-iron, or did at one point. One takeaway is that even the world's best ball-strikers won't say no to a little help. And don't forget that Collin switches from blades to cavity-back MCs in his short irons as well, for The Open and (I think) The Scottish Open. Although that's not because they're more forgiving, per se, but rather because of a very subtle difference in turf interaction. Well, maybe not so subtle. If I remember right, what he said was that, using the P730s in Scotland, he "couldn't find the center of the face." 😝
But among amateurs and pros, we're all different. I'm a 3 hcp, and I play big, fat, forgiving hollow-bodies in 5-7, blades in 8-PW, and then back to to a hollow-cavity CBX2 wedge in 52º...and then a bladed 58º wedge! So whatever gets it in the hole.
3:14 - That club looks so good!
I love my 3i and if it was removed from my bag I would not want to play. Sadly, I can’t get anything LH in Taylormade irons other than their super chunky series club.
These things are absolutely beautiful! I had a test with the MB’s this week…out of the middle feels incredible! However……🫣I hit a few thin ones…😵💫 So not for me but they’d look fabulous in the bag! 🤣👍🏻
They are really good, I presume cause the blade length. Basically, if you miss the sweet spot, you’ll mis the ball completely.
Did they mention anything about a possible new TP5 version?
Started golfing in 2019. Im a decent to a really good athlete. Played high level hockey since 4 years old. Started off golf using Mizuno 919 forged at a 15 handicap. Following year switched to the P770s dropped down to a 12 and switched again to the Mizuno 921 Tours. I found absolutely no difference in "forgiveness". Its either I hit the shot or not. More variables in the the way I swing to make contact and all natural factors than the marginal "forgiveness" in hitting around the club face.
About Morikawa using the P7MC in the long iron and MBs is the short (Taylormade calls it P7CM), I think that this is just a publicity stunt. I bought the original P7MC and MB in 2020 and quite honestly, I don't think the MC is more forgiving. In fact, they play almost the same in my opinion, with the MC having a little bit more offset. Morikawa is not going to play better with the MC as the long iron.
Yeah even Colin has CBs in 5 and 6 irons lol so a 3 iron MB on the first shot is a tad ambitious. Kudos for even trying it!
I think he might have hit a few in practice before the filming started
Good vid for the tempted few. I suggest a 5 handicap or less.
Blades are the easiest to hit straight probably because there is no offset and the flight tends to be lower and penetrating. I can handle a few toe mis-hits because they still go straight. The biggest challenge is a long iron in thick rough, but the courses i play have rough that basically lifts the ball up on a tee. I'm short so ball striking is easier for me than tall players. I cannot play well with my son's stealth irons. They launch left with a slight draw, and when I try to fade the ball I cannot find any consistancy.
I’m getting too old for blades! Just don’t hit them far enough
Sure look nice though.
Yeah, I will stick with a compact Forged Cavity back.
Clubs are a hunk of metal at the end of a stick. You swing any club well and you’ll hit the ball well.
Colin is playing for a completely different reason to the average club golfer. It's his job, so I guess it's to be expected that he's going to use clubs within the realms of his contractual obligations that he gets the best numbers with. For the average club golfer, use blades or don't. I used a split set of MP-18 SC/MB with the 7-PW being MB and got from 17 to 11 this season, and 5 comp wins and runner up in the club champs. I love using them and yeah I hit bad shots, but i'd do that with any club. I just prefer to feel it when I do it.
These aren’t hard to hit. Blades actually require to hit the center of the face thus improving your general strike, allowing you to have more consistent yardages and misses. I’m an 8.5 hcp and I hit these yesterday and have no issue finding the center. Do they suit my eye? No. The 7mcs do and feel better in my opinion, but I wouldn’t steer people away from blades without letting them feel the beauty of the center of the face. Nothing compares to the center of a blade. (In golf)
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I love golf
Looks like Los Naranjos in Marbella ?
Xander plays Callaway Apex TCB (raw) not TM
When did I say he plays TM?
Tbh, I actually prefer the look of the CBs.
Amazing sandwich Chris.
Who is this Coran Morikawa chap? he sounds like quite a good golfer.
Unlikely someone index 5 and above plays blades but just get fit. Also does not matter what pros play, they can change their clubs every week at no cost.
Gorgeous, my skill set not up to these tho.
I love a small muscleback blade. I have mizuno 221's at the moment, these look like a worthy competitor from taylormade. My experience may not be the norm because my first set of irons were maxfli aussie blades when I was very young...but I keep coming back to blades because of the feedback. With more "forgiving" irons I seem to slowly develop bad habits without realizing it. With blades I know right away what is going on.
geooooorgiiiousss
Perhaps you’re hitting them so well cause they are so small? Small concentration zone?
They scare the shit out of me - but look great 😅
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Why is the younger generation so scared of hitting a blade? Well not even a blade! just a muscle back in general and a forgiving muscle back like this one. Come on now.
This has to be the 10 billionth comment I've read where y'all are acting as if trying to hit one of these is going to decapitate you?
It's a blade either you can hit it or you can't but it sure is a great training tool to help you find the center of the face more often thus improving your overall ball striking.
What's the deal it's just a golf club. Don't be so scared good grief. Y'all are acting like it it's going to give you nightmares.
I used a set of Titleist zm blades at a 11 handicap and they taught me to come a much better ball Striker the pure feeling of finding the center of the club face is both buttery and trampoline like at the same time.
@@BuffaloNickel9
I used a friend P.7 TW 3 iron and smashed it straight, 200 meters I'm 30 handicap 55 yrs old, I'm very interested in these P.7 MB as they are much cheaper than TW. I bought 3 iron MB cannot wait to try it out 👍
Bento Assis 4x junior champ 12yo uses cb's 😊 this kid is the future of golf but u never heard of him because PGA kinda because Tigers personal PIAR company for his son (he is great, but not near as some of the best juniors outthere)
Split sets? I have 921 HMBs, I can't work these at all, unlike my previous irons, so should I have a split set? I rarely used to take a short iron around the corner, and a club with drop and stop is fine, any shaping on short irons was about stop. On long irons, yes, getting around trouble was sometimes useful, but they would always have been the game improvers.
Running chips, some argument for a bladier one, but I frankly take more full shots with my PW than need a tight chip. And I do have specialist wedges down to GW.
My switch is actually - summer, using the 4i as a driving iron, winter use the 4H.
Now, if Mizuno was to bring out a 7i HM that felt and looked exactly like the real one, but had blade-like sweet spot and feedback, for practice, hmm. But only an idiot would use it in competition.
There is no way I could hit these Consistent.. Look nice but Average Golfer would have difficulty playing with these.
Why do you keep saying xander in relation to playing these clubs? He plays callaway irons, woods and an odyssey putter! He plays the apex tcb's and they are brilliant!
Because he’s a Brilliant iron player? Is that allowed?
Not good enough James. More practice required to get your striking points correct.
People on TH-cam totally oversell how hard blades are to hit. I'm a 1-2 handicap and I find they are easier to hit than a cavity back. If I hit it bad enough that it's going to be a bad shot, having "forgiveness" isn't going to save me. I might as well have the greater shotmaking capabilities. Plus I find smaller heads easier to hit based on the way I swing.
Ok mate
How do blades allow for greater shot making capabilities 🤷♂️
@@RyanMetcalfePGA because cavity back clubs are designed to go up in the arm and have a CG a lot further back from the face than a blade.
@@Micker375 Those characteristics don’t make a cavity less easy to shape
@@RyanMetcalfePGA Yes they do. Same reason drivers these days move less than the smaller heads. Maybe drop an email to one of the manufacturers so they can validate what I’ve said.
Colin must’ve been practicing 4 and 3 irons at the time of photo surely 😂
World's best ball strikers are TW, Rory and Sergio. Not CM. He's good, but a level below.
Need to fix your audio levels... way to quiet.
Thanks mate? These are new mics. I thought they where better?
@@JamesRobinsonGolf the quality is great. its just the volume levels are really quiet. need to either move them closer to the source, or in post production bring up the levels. love the content though you rock
I love the design of these irons, but them being smaller than the previous version is gonna push me away a bit. I really love that back design on the 7MB's, great review!
intonation insanity
Robbo has always been strong, stress, marriage, no free time and success does the rest to us all.
James is obviously a very good player, but I'll wager for 90% of players if they stepped DOWN a level or 2 with their irons 90% of their shots would end up with a better result.
Watch Peter Finch (a TH-camr who spanks 95% of TH-cam "pros") play with full on basically hybrid ultra game improvement iron and rave about them.
I don’t get it?
@@JamesRobinsonGolf no, you don't, and neither do most other golfers.
I will bet money 95%+ of players would score better on average and lower their handicap over time playing with anywhere from full on hybrid ultra game improvement "irons" to the most forgiving cavity back in the range.
No one who's not off positive handicap needs to shape the ball.
If your handicap is in the teens you just need to hit it high, straight and minimize the miss hits.
TM would honestly be the last set of blades I'd put in play probably. They look nice enough but I prefer Srixon and Mizuno looks and feel. If I was going blade it'd be because of vanity and purely wanting a set for the hell of it. I'd just go all out and grab a set of Miura 502s.
So true. They are starting to look closer and closer to my Srixon z945s
100% agreed. I currently play the 501s and after hitting the newest line up of the 7 series still nothing compares to Miura. The 7 mcs were the softest and close but the yardages you get in Miura are so tight it’s hard to compare. There are just no fliers or jumpers, good strike = good result. Although with that being said, I did ?upgrade? And get the tc-201s from the Black Friday sale. I couldn’t get the 502s because I felt they weren’t different enough. And I’m all for less offset and more progressive cg weighting
What a sandwich in the hands os a master...clubs are pretty as well. Not a chance for me with them
I'd rather play a few shots off and enjoy the clubs i pull out of the bag, than pull out a pig ugly chunky thing i can't stand the look of... as you said, you're out to enjoy yourself.
Got to unfollow you after seeing all your replies in the comments. You seem like you don’t care for what your followers comment or just a sarcastic reply.
The diamond muscle is kinda ugly.
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Why wouldn't you put them in the bag? You were striping them! You're a victim of your own fear mongering about blades.
Al stick to my p790 s 🏌🙂👍well done James 👏