Some information: BASI is a german lock manufacturer and they are known here for cheap, lower-end locks. They have a few higher quality locks, but they mainly sell hardware store grade stuff (in hardware stores). Think of Schlage/Kwikset. However, the lock landscape in Europe seems to be MUCH more diverse than in the US (probably because countries are much smaller, many countries have lock manufacturers and shops usually mainly offer those, so that's what people buy. In Austria this would be mainly EVVA and stuff from Germany (this might also due to many hardware stores in Austria originating from Germany), like Gege, BASI, DOM, Abus, BKS, Wilka.
Lock: "I spend all my life in the Alps freezing my balls off and when I think I've been retired to a warm place some guy strips me in front of thousands of people. I wonder if Medicare covers this?"
> Der Ausschluß. (1) Anschluß rather than Ausschluß (2) According to the new German spelling, the old ß is replaced by ss (result) Anschluss (personal opinion) Only people who live far away can have such fun about it
@@galdavonalgerri2101 Well, since we're already klugscheißern, let's do it right, shall we? :) "Ausschluss" means "Exclusion", and in the case of an annexation of another country would make no sense. The correct word ist "Anschluss", which has two literal meanings, one is as a verb meaning "connection" (Internet connection is "Internetanschluss", electrical connection is "Stromanschluss" etc.), and another is to describe an action of attaching something - which is the meaning we're dealing with here. Anschluss means annexation, or literally, the attaching of Austria to Germany. The ß was NOT replaced by "ss" - it is still in use. However neither ß nor ss are used indistinctively. You may be using "ss" throughout (which is the correct Swiss spelling) if you are not able to type it (different keyboard layouts or you just can't be arsed to do it), most people won't bat an eye at seeing it, a lot of people even won't even recognise it as wrong, only grammar Nazis like me. If you want to show off your language skills, while writing official or publishable texts, you do well to use it correctly. In this case it's "Anschluss" rather than "Anschluß" because ß is to be used following a *long* vowel, while "ss" is to be used after a *short" vowel. Which probably doesn't help non-german speakers one bit since they won't know how to pronounce it anyway, but that's the rules. However, now you know how it's done correctly, so you can klugscheißern (be a smartass about it) when *other* people do it wrong :). So go forth and klugscheißere, my friend. In case your intention was merely to make it look more "germanic", and correct spelling be damned, be my guest. In this case I'd also advise using Umlauts instead of vowels throughout, looks even MORE germanic. Thus: Änschlüß!
@@horrovac Thank you my friend. I know that there is a difference between Maße and Masse that the Swiss cannot read. "Maße" refers to height and size (e.g. the human body), but Masse refers to weight (thinness, fatness). So it is very rude to tell someone that you have a good "Masse" (weight) - but some ladies may want to hear I admire your "Maße". Swiss people don't use ß so both words are written Masse.
I just found out that ypu are retiring after I believe 14 years. I'm not sure if that is accurate or not. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Happy retirement and good luck to your future endeavors. Take care sir.
Great Video, showing the humour and skills you've demonstrated over the years! Can't pick a favourite video as there are so many good ones, so this is the best place I can think of to say "Enjoy your retirement"
One neat idea to prevent the giveaway winners from having the email end up in the spam folder would be to send a first email that the user can favorite. That should prevent the “you won” email from going to spam
Bill wasnt honest with us about Master lock co.Their tradition is huge and till you tube came,no one complayned about them so do you wanna belive in 100 years of satisfied cuszomers or in bunch of you tube pickers who pick locks in lab condition?
No anti drill pins but anti bump balls makes sense in a hotel lock as a thief might well try bumping them but drilling or any other brute force entry method would cause too much noise to go unnoticed in a hotel environment so they probably don't need to worry about that.
I don't get the point of not installing the pins. They cost about $0.03 to manufacture and install. It's a negligible cost increase, security increase, and increases brand equity for having strong locks.
@@erichkitzmueller I lived in Australia for 2½ years and never saw a kangaroo or wallaby. But I did see some near my home town in England. We even had some wild wallabies around here. It's an odd world. 🙂👍
hi Bill, these balls are not antibump but anti comb... (like combing chineese padlocks) and also makes drilling springs more difficult... i cam bet this lock is made in Titan company Kamnik city of Slovenia (keyway, keybow and especially that balls are their specifikum or specialty)
Your video cuts off before the end. We don't get to see the part where you test the effectiveness of the ball bearings against bumping. Please check your upload because I know you included that, right?
Is there a way to make spools less detectable? I mean, you can feel there's a spool due to the counter rotation. Is it possible to slant the spools in the same amount as the ration, so the inside of the spool sits flush with the lock body? Would this remove any counter rotation from the spool, making it feel the same as a really hard binding pin?
Doesn't matter. It will pick either way. And if you want to get technical, there are plenty of licks that have them mounted with the pins to the side and at the top.
This is just a guess, but could the pins being different metals also help against bumping? I'm thinking the different weights might cause even more uneven reactions between the pins. Just a thought.
My guess is that possibly the person who ran the hotel replaced the pins in the lock as it was used and the pins were worn out or they needed to rekey the lock because a key was not returned. Just a thought, nothing more.
@@wytsewolf I read it as "No kangaroos in Australia" and then sat there for a few seconds, wondering if that's some Zen kind of thing, like clapping with one hand, until it clicked
Changing the spring reaction by adding the balls is more efficient than manufacturing a variety of springs. Notice that the balls are placed differently, also, in the two springs. They each have one at the end but the other two are in a different place along the spring. That must change the dynamics as well. All using standard springs and ball bearings. I'd place them above the spools. The pins do differ in density, also. Altogether, it looks like a clever and simple anti-bump design. (But I am not an engineer)
Could the pin colors be from the kind of repinning set usually sold to lock enthusiasts? Also, what happened to that plastic holder for euro cylinders?
Considering its a hotel room lock, it's quite surprising there's no master keying in that lock. Simple neat idea to use to make an older lock bump resistant tho. Cool!
I've got a double sided one of these. Gutted it a bit messy and then hacked it apart. Guess it would've been good if it wasn't for a key with miserable bitting (I think it's all 3 but the last which is 4) Oh, and the ball bearings I thought must be anti bump or anti overlift. However, I don't have the tools yet to check that out.
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Some information: BASI is a german lock manufacturer and they are known here for cheap, lower-end locks. They have a few higher quality locks, but they mainly sell hardware store grade stuff (in hardware stores). Think of Schlage/Kwikset. However, the lock landscape in Europe seems to be MUCH more diverse than in the US (probably because countries are much smaller, many countries have lock manufacturers and shops usually mainly offer those, so that's what people buy. In Austria this would be mainly EVVA and stuff from Germany (this might also due to many hardware stores in Austria originating from Germany), like Gege, BASI, DOM, Abus, BKS, Wilka.
Add in the fact that they have the EU and language differences.
UK had until recently good access to both. Cough (BREXIT) cough.
Happy retirement Bill! Thanks for sharing so much of your knowledge with us
Ball bearing might be against combing, stop the pins being overlifted.
That was my first thought anyways... For a possible over-lift attack.
Might be both
if the lock was mounted inverted those balls would not do much to prevent bumping
Combing only works on "straight" keyways - heavily paracentric keyways such as this "Yale" type will not allow the metal comb to lift straight up.
Proper overlifting prevention is a single long driver pin. Old solution that's been out of favor for decades is to put a mini pin in the spring.
Mr Bill , you are a great teacher
The different material pins might be so that they 'resonate' differently when bumped/jiggled.
That's what I thought too. Different mass between the different metals will make them respond at different speed.
Lock: "I spend all my life in the Alps freezing my balls off and when I think I've been retired to a warm place some guy strips me in front of thousands of people.
I wonder if Medicare covers this?"
Medecare*
No but Medeco might cover it. 😉
@@bouncingmonk123 USA medical system.
I am in the usa I was being punny, but thank you.
Would having those balls in upper chambers also prevent a comb pick from opening the lock?
Well comb picking usually also doesn’t work without them, thus I don’t think that they are in there for this reason.
Using German lockpicks on an Austrian lock indicates that we're seeing a reenactment of the historical event known as Der Ausschluß.
Anschluss.
> Der Ausschluß.
(1) Anschluß rather than Ausschluß
(2) According to the new German spelling, the old ß is replaced by ss
(result) Anschluss
(personal opinion) Only people who live far away can have such fun about it
@@galdavonalgerri2101 Well, since we're already klugscheißern, let's do it right, shall we? :) "Ausschluss" means "Exclusion", and in the case of an annexation of another country would make no sense. The correct word ist "Anschluss", which has two literal meanings, one is as a verb meaning "connection" (Internet connection is "Internetanschluss", electrical connection is "Stromanschluss" etc.), and another is to describe an action of attaching something - which is the meaning we're dealing with here. Anschluss means annexation, or literally, the attaching of Austria to Germany.
The ß was NOT replaced by "ss" - it is still in use. However neither ß nor ss are used indistinctively. You may be using "ss" throughout (which is the correct Swiss spelling) if you are not able to type it (different keyboard layouts or you just can't be arsed to do it), most people won't bat an eye at seeing it, a lot of people even won't even recognise it as wrong, only grammar Nazis like me. If you want to show off your language skills, while writing official or publishable texts, you do well to use it correctly.
In this case it's "Anschluss" rather than "Anschluß" because ß is to be used following a *long* vowel, while "ss" is to be used after a *short" vowel. Which probably doesn't help non-german speakers one bit since they won't know how to pronounce it anyway, but that's the rules.
However, now you know how it's done correctly, so you can klugscheißern (be a smartass about it) when *other* people do it wrong :). So go forth and klugscheißere, my friend.
In case your intention was merely to make it look more "germanic", and correct spelling be damned, be my guest. In this case I'd also advise using Umlauts instead of vowels throughout, looks even MORE germanic. Thus: Änschlüß!
@@horrovac Thank you my friend.
I know that there is a difference between Maße and Masse that the Swiss cannot read. "Maße" refers to height and size (e.g. the human body), but Masse refers to weight (thinness, fatness). So it is very rude to tell someone that you have a good "Masse" (weight) - but some ladies may want to hear I admire your "Maße". Swiss people don't use ß so both words are written Masse.
@@horrovac more like „der Aufschluss“ am i right, eh? Eh? Eeeeeh? 🫠
It would be interesting to try those springs in a bumpable lock to see if they make a difference.
I just found out that ypu are retiring after I believe 14 years. I'm not sure if that is accurate or not. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Happy retirement and good luck to your future endeavors. Take care sir.
1:35 I would pay to see a band called Austrian Mountain Magic
That is a very cool lock, I haven’t seen that anti bump balls before
I accidentally put a pin in one of my challenge locks. Now ìì can understand what it would do
Agree with the others on the balls being anti-bump.. thanks as always for the video Bill!
Very cool, anti-bump spring balls. Never seen them before. 😮
Hope the you have a good time with family bill! You're an amazing man and deserve nothing less than a great retirement
Great Video, showing the humour and skills you've demonstrated over the years! Can't pick a favourite video as there are so many good ones, so this is the best place I can think of to say "Enjoy your retirement"
Farewell, and happy retirement
Thanks Bill for that you have shown me ,enjoy your retirement ,Your cooler than cool
Hi Bill , thinking of you - good luck on the retirement and my thanks for your videos
You deserve to have 5 times as many subscribers, man. Really.
Austria will miss you. Thanks for the videos!!!
Thank you Bosnian Bill! We're going to miss you.
Props on the successful Euro gutting Bill. I was kinda hoping for---oh never mind
hello Bill i sincerely hope you have a nice retirement
btw. you have picked many Austrian locks so far, because EVVA is Austrian (and not German ou sometimes say)
Those balls might be anti comb devices to stop the pins being pushed completely up.
Probably not. These paracentric Yale style keyways are generally immune to overlifting, even usin the new thinner 0.015" comb picks.
@@bosnianbill fair enough :-)
Enjoy your retirement Bill!
That was definitely different! I've never heard of ballbearings in the springs. Pretty cool! Thank you!
One neat idea to prevent the giveaway winners from having the email end up in the spam folder would be to send a first email that the user can favorite. That should prevent the “you won” email from going to spam
Bill wasnt honest with us about Master lock co.Their tradition is huge and till you tube came,no one complayned about them so do you wanna belive in 100 years of satisfied cuszomers or in bunch of you tube pickers who pick locks in lab condition?
No anti drill pins but anti bump balls makes sense in a hotel lock as a thief might well try bumping them but drilling or any other brute force entry method would cause too much noise to go unnoticed in a hotel environment so they probably don't need to worry about that.
I don't get the point of not installing the pins. They cost about $0.03 to manufacture and install. It's a negligible cost increase, security increase, and increases brand equity for having strong locks.
No kangaroos in Austria. Not even in zoos?
haven‘t seen them at Schönbrunn (Vienna Zoo) (i live nearby!)!
🙏
Actually we do have some kangaroos in zoos, for example in the Tierpark Rosegg.
@@erichkitzmueller I lived in Australia for 2½ years and never saw a kangaroo or wallaby. But I did see some near my home town in England. We even had some wild wallabies around here. It's an odd world. 🙂👍
@@BeatFiction And you live in a truly beautiful part of the world. 😀
No there are no kangaroos in zoos in Austria, we'd need to go out and catch some first.
Anti-bump balls like this are common in Zeiss-Icon locks. Since this was from Austria it is probably a generic lock copying Zeiss-Icon features.
May the 4th be with you. Anti bump lock at cool I was think that the ball we're going to be used instead of pins. When I read that title. 😆
hi Bill, these balls are not antibump but anti comb... (like combing chineese padlocks) and also makes drilling springs more difficult... i cam bet this lock is made in Titan company Kamnik city of Slovenia (keyway, keybow and especially that balls are their specifikum or specialty)
i also think that this is a product from TiTAN-Slovenia,
BASi are buy and sell the Produckts of TiTAN and lots of other manufacturers.
@@FrauHaferniehl exactly
@@thomasw.6945 Do you know any other OEM lock company in Europe? Isn't TiTAN part of the DOM-GROUP?
@@FrauHaferniehl yes, Titan is part od DOM group....
...wouldn't the addition of those ballbearings in cylinders that have shorter pins also be a good quick-fix to prevent overlifting too?
Your video cuts off before the end. We don't get to see the part where you test the effectiveness of the ball bearings against bumping.
Please check your upload because I know you included that, right?
This BASI cylinder is Mada by Titan. It's the Titan K1.... 😂 😂 😂
That's pretty clever and so simple! wish I'd have thought of it lol
Is there a way to make spools less detectable? I mean, you can feel there's a spool due to the counter rotation. Is it possible to slant the spools in the same amount as the ration, so the inside of the spool sits flush with the lock body? Would this remove any counter rotation from the spool, making it feel the same as a really hard binding pin?
If you need a real lock,you need the Master No5 which is the best in his class.
Not true! There are kangaroos in Austria, not just in zoos but also escapees from private pet ownership
@bosniabill: the plugs in the EURO-cylinder are the top, not the bottom… you americans allways pick european locks up-side-down
Doesn't matter. It will pick either way. And if you want to get technical, there are plenty of licks that have them mounted with the pins to the side and at the top.
i just wish you would pick euro locks the way they are installed in europe, which is bible down ;)
I'm going with anti bump, I've come across them before in a Zi ikon... cheers Bill 👍...
i know also this balls from ZEISS IKON locks ...
Every serious guy knows that Master lock is the best .
Has anyone else wondered how much $$$ Bill has in picks ?
Thank you Bill :) I hope you enjoy retirement.
Thanks for all you've shared with us
This is just a guess, but could the pins being different metals also help against bumping? I'm thinking the different weights might cause even more uneven reactions between the pins. Just a thought.
My guess is that possibly the person who ran the hotel replaced the pins in the lock as it was used and the pins were worn out or they needed to rekey the lock because a key was not returned.
Just a thought, nothing more.
Love these videos. Thank you.
Master lock,choice of pros and real contractors.
Hey can I have a bucket of keys and have a good trade please
I'm still not used to yall using locks upside down
May the fourth be with you.
How are these locks installed?
Great job on the picking Mr. Bill
Master lock co is the greatest!
Lock and ball torture?
Happy retirement :-)
What's the brand of this lock?
Basi.
I think the pins are different materials to screw with someone trying to impression a key.
I think those balls is anti over lifting feature. Maybe i am wrong.
Wait for it, wait for it YES another gutting diaster avoided!👍
I agree they prevent over lift. Might be worth an experiment?
👍🇬🇧🇺🇸🔒.
Does seeing the key make it easier to pick or not really?
I thought it said Australian lock. 🇦🇺 :)
Me too and then I read "No kangaroos in Austria 😂"
@@wytsewolf I read it as "No kangaroos in Australia" and then sat there for a few seconds, wondering if that's some Zen kind of thing, like clapping with one hand, until it clicked
@@saschaschneider6355 haha crazy
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Anti comb balls?
Thanks for the video 🔒👍
Wouldn't different springs do the same job? And pins of different size and density as well?
Changing the spring reaction by adding the balls is more efficient than manufacturing a variety of springs. Notice that the balls are placed differently, also, in the two springs. They each have one at the end but the other two are in a different place along the spring. That must change the dynamics as well. All using standard springs and ball bearings.
I'd place them above the spools.
The pins do differ in density, also. Altogether, it looks like a clever and simple anti-bump design. (But I am not an engineer)
@@brianally1531 the balls are free floating. They are able to move the full length of the spring.
Hey guys.🙂
3rd view?
Could the pin colors be from the kind of repinning set usually sold to lock enthusiasts?
Also, what happened to that plastic holder for euro cylinders?
May the 4th be with you Bill. Great video as always.
Considering its a hotel room lock, it's quite surprising there's no master keying in that lock. Simple neat idea to use to make an older lock bump resistant tho. Cool!
May the 4th be with you and have a magical day! MagicBill
I've got a double sided one of these. Gutted it a bit messy and then hacked it apart. Guess it would've been good if it wasn't for a key with miserable bitting (I think it's all 3 but the last which is 4)
Oh, and the ball bearings I thought must be anti bump or anti overlift. However, I don't have the tools yet to check that out.