Dave- if U move tensioner to inside of the key against the center post (so full ramp on outside end of key) U could add a row of pins blocking the tensioner hole? Might have to ramp the tensioner
Think about how much design went into this lock, then add the ability to execute the construction in such a precise manner. This piece of work goes way beyond what most of us would consider locksport. Congrats to Dave for creating this, and for Bill to be able to explain it to all of us.
We imported those SB locks back in the 90’s. It was not easily picked but impressioned easily. The quality of those lock were just ok. Dave’s lock nice. The draw back to that lock design was master pinning. It only had 3 depths. Another nice video.
That's so beatiful! I wonder if @LockpickingLawyer would be able to have any luck? Your skill is incredible, so I don't see him having much better luck... but still, would be interesting to see!
That's got to be the most beautiful lock I've seen. Craftsmanship is just above the rest. If I came across that in the field I would find a new career. Great job on it, awesome video Bill.
I love the way those in the lock picking community interact with each other and encourage new pickers with tips and tricks. It’s been a useful skill for me to have but I haven’t used it much. I’m glad I learned it and I’m always looking to improve
Yes , i enjoyed the time and effort that both of you put into that lock . Dave in making it , and you showing it . Thanks . It’s been a long time since I’ve seen a lock that impressed me . And thanks for another great video .
The lock looks gorgeous and I really admire the craftsmanship! I don't nearly have the skills or equipment to even try picking it but I still think that the design has some room for improvement. I suspect that the weakness in this design is the central post that is made of brass and can be forcibly removed, allowing the pins to drop inside the keyway. Central post should be manufactured from hardened steel, so it can't be grabbed by a tool or bent until it breaks. Also, the way, how the post is attached, must be carefully designed - maybe nail-shaped design works, so the post can be bent but not forced out. Good luck Dave, designing unconquerable lock that is also a piece of art!
Came here after @lockpickinglawyer last vid . I wanted to tell you how i have been impressed by your skills, and the good feelings you share on your videos. Enjoy your retirement, and i wish you a long life to live happily. too many thanks to tell them in one comment. Greetings from France.
Bill and Dave- Now that is a lock. Bill I have been watching your channel for years now. I have yet to see a lock that you cannot pick open. With all due respect, I think you just met your nemesis in the lock world. Dave, excellent job! I would replace the combination lock on my gun safe with that lock design alone! Darn fine work!
Hi, Bill. A great lock. It is fun to see you use your experience to try and defeat a lock. Get those creative juices flowing. Maybe you can impression that bad boy. Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!
Much more impressive than the "stuff made here" "unpickable lock". Not saying this is an unpickable lock. But what beautiful craftsmanship, the maker is an expert of his craft!
This episode was great. Not only because of its beautiful composition but that you exlained and laid it out so well too. As always Bill, you present greay content and leave me waiting for more!👍🏼
That's funny...and probably intentional. Yesterday, I commented on the Trimax that if it tensioned from the back it would be much harder to pick. Today, that exact design is presented, only with much better tolerances and security pins. Kudos.
Next version: tensioning hole shallow perfectly round with boron hardened sleeve to make it harder to use a cutting tool to tension by biting into it--and positioned directly behind the pins.
what a lock!! Nice video like always! gotta say your locklab has changed how I view and practice lock sport. If your new or a master we all can learn something form the courses on locklab cheers!
That is an absolute masterpiece... Seriously Dave, if you haven't, shop your design around to the better lock conglomerates (Assa group, etc).... Even with slightly decreased tolerances inherent to mass production, this would still be an incredibly secure lock.
Here's a plus up for Dave! Dang dude, that's one heck of a lock. Get that design to fit a kwikset housing and you probably could make millions. After all, who wouldn't want a unpickable lock for their household. Cheers!
The reason locks are so bad is because customers are happy to pay less for a lock that isn't as secure. We don't live inside bank vaults. So, unless Dave could make a production line that makes these locks to these high tolerances at the same price point as worse locks. He's not going to make a penny unfortunately.
@@RealCadde Yeah, the problem isn't that they're not capable of making good locks, the problem is that they aren't pressured by consumers to make good locks.
Excellent design, if only high-quality precision machining like this was commercially viable for mass production! It would be beautiful to see this lock out for general use for high security applications!
Those Gerda locks are very popular in Poland, I have it on my door and only after few videos like this one I've learnt how good they are. They are quite cheap and the key works like very loud whistle so good for mountain hikes too! 😉 Also, they can be turned 2 times from outside but only once from inside so while you lock your house from outside, the burglar who enters through a window won't be able to leave through a door (as a "moving company employeer" for example). I had to wait in the window waiting for a neighbour to ask them to open me from outside when someone forgot and locked me inside with two rotations ;)
@@Malidictus He has before, but it was a single video or maybe two videos where he covered locks he had the most difficulty with, as well as some he never succeeded in picking.
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Thanks again Bill for giving my new lock a try. Great video. I guess we are even now. I'll have to come up with something new for a tie breaker.
Dave, do you perhaps have a video on the making of your lock?
Dave- if U move tensioner to inside of the key against the center post (so full ramp on outside end of key) U could add a row of pins blocking the tensioner hole? Might have to ramp the tensioner
@@EngineerMikeF Good comment Mike. In hindsight that is probably what I should have done.
That is one amazing lock!
Absolutely incredible👌👏
If Dave made a creation video, I’d love to see it. What an absolute masterpiece. Wow
This Lock is perfect made
A video in This old Tony style...
Think about how much design went into this lock, then add the ability to execute the construction in such a precise manner. This piece of work goes way beyond what most of us would consider locksport. Congrats to Dave for creating this, and for Bill to be able to explain it to all of us.
Happy Retirement Bill, thank you for all the knowledge and skills you've shared with us all over the years!
Happy retirement, Bill. Thanks for all the time you've given us. I wish you all the best. :)
Gerda locks are so good that we use them to protect unguarded telecommunications server rooms in Poland. They never break down.
Where could I buy 3 of those locks
( any retailers in the U.S.A. ) ? HOW
EXPENSIVE are they ?
@@johnhoward7298 try on producer site gerda.pl or allegro.pl .. GERDA Star SX RIM 6000 SX PREMIUM or TYTAN ZX GERDA ~80 USD
We imported those SB locks back in the 90’s. It was not easily picked but impressioned easily. The quality of those lock were just ok. Dave’s lock nice.
The draw back to that lock design was master pinning. It only had 3 depths.
Another nice video.
That's so beatiful! I wonder if @LockpickingLawyer would be able to have any luck? Your skill is incredible, so I don't see him having much better luck... but still, would be interesting to see!
That is a work of art! Evil, magical art at that.
Good job Bill didn't sneeze when he gutted it, otherwise it would never go back together properly
Thank's for all your hard work! You are the reason I got into LockSport!!! Enjoy your retirement, we'll miss you!
Excellent design and craftsmanship on that lock. Great work Dave.
The machining of the lock parts is top notch. Great going Dave!
An unpickable lock.
"Master" in the video title.
This is the closest they'll ever get.
Underrated comment. So true.
Made my day
That's got to be the most beautiful lock I've seen. Craftsmanship is just above the rest. If I came across that in the field I would find a new career. Great job on it, awesome video Bill.
I love the way those in the lock picking community interact with each other and encourage new pickers with tips and tricks. It’s been a useful skill for me to have but I haven’t used it much. I’m glad I learned it and I’m always looking to improve
Yes , i enjoyed the time and effort that both of you put into that lock . Dave in making it , and you showing it . Thanks . It’s been a long time since I’ve seen a lock that impressed me . And thanks for another great video .
+1 for Dave. Great design. Loved the method of using pins as a gate.
Thanks for all the great videos over the years.
I have 41 years in the Business , even at that i'd have to break out the Locksmiths old reliable Rotary Pick!
Well Done David...good effort Bill...!
If you want to get the light in the back of a lock, use a thin fiber optic, like from those decorative flower lights.
That is crazy. Coming from a partial machinist that is great work he did. Good job Dave! Thanks for the video bill.
The lock looks gorgeous and I really admire the craftsmanship!
I don't nearly have the skills or equipment to even try picking it but I still think that the design has some room for improvement. I suspect that the weakness in this design is the central post that is made of brass and can be forcibly removed, allowing the pins to drop inside the keyway. Central post should be manufactured from hardened steel, so it can't be grabbed by a tool or bent until it breaks. Also, the way, how the post is attached, must be carefully designed - maybe nail-shaped design works, so the post can be bent but not forced out.
Good luck Dave, designing unconquerable lock that is also a piece of art!
Nice work Dave!
Congratulations on your retirement sir!! Thank you for everything I have learned from you....you are appreciated!!!
Beautiful workmanship.
Came here after @lockpickinglawyer last vid .
I wanted to tell you how i have been impressed by your skills, and the good feelings you share on your videos.
Enjoy your retirement, and i wish you a long life to live happily.
too many thanks to tell them in one comment.
Greetings from France.
Plus up for Dave and his incredible design. Plus up for BB too. Learned so much watching your vids.
wow great stuff and great gifts back bill thanks to you both
That is one beautiful lock
excellent work, dave! a masterpiece of lock smithing.
Dear Bill
Sorry to see you go but I understand and respect your descision!
Enjoy your life and thanks for all the great videos!
Chris
This lock is really well made! I love the design of the overlapping pins!
Way to go Dave. Nice craftsmanship.
Bill and Dave-
Now that is a lock. Bill I have been watching your channel for years now. I have yet to see a lock that you cannot pick open. With all due respect, I think you just met your nemesis in the lock world.
Dave, excellent job! I would replace the combination lock on my gun safe with that lock design alone! Darn fine work!
Hi, Bill. A great lock. It is fun to see you use your experience to try and defeat a lock. Get those creative juices flowing. Maybe you can impression that bad boy. Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!
A beautiful piece of design and precision engineering. Looks really good in brass as well, it is a work of art as well.
Dave!!! Outstanding incredible work!! I would love to see a video of you making this lock!!
Dave did a great job on that lock. People still hire him to make locks for companies
A work of art and engineering, great job Dave. 👍🏻👍🏻
Much more impressive than the "stuff made here" "unpickable lock". Not saying this is an unpickable lock. But what beautiful craftsmanship, the maker is an expert of his craft!
i would love to see the machining process what an absolute artist dave is
Hi Bill, I hope you're enjoying your life. Browsing TH-cam just isn't the same without your videos popping up.
Click Spring level of precision, Nice. Would love a Click Spring like video of it being made.
Plus one for this.
That's some fine craftsmanship! Great job trying to pick it!
What an amazing lock design.
Awesome job, Dave! And great video as usual, Bill!
Excellent machining, and a nice dogs breakfast of pins. This should go to a collector, or the museum of frustration.
Beautiful and creative
That’s amazing workmanship great job Dave
Very cool concept and I'm happy that it functions as well as it looks. Nicely done.
Such an amazing lock, described so well. Thank you.
This looks like the inside of a clock, what a beautiful design for a lock!
This episode was great. Not only because of its beautiful composition but that you exlained and laid it out so well too. As always Bill, you present greay content and leave me waiting for more!👍🏼
One of the koolest locks I've ever seen.
That's funny...and probably intentional. Yesterday, I commented on the Trimax that if it tensioned from the back it would be much harder to pick. Today, that exact design is presented, only with much better tolerances and security pins. Kudos.
Next version: tensioning hole shallow perfectly round with boron hardened sleeve to make it harder to use a cutting tool to tension by biting into it--and positioned directly behind the pins.
Thanks so much for the wealth of information you've shared with all those who watch your videos
Wow! Incredible design and execution! Applause!
Nice lock Dave, Very well put together.
I love the craftsmanship that went into this, not to mention the mind to create the design. Kudos to Dave for this, Serious work man!
What a Artist, that lock is incredibly. Actually both of his locks are Awesome. Just to own such a lock would be a HONOR. CHEERS Dave
Came here for the cool lock picking videos but now I want to make a wood pinning tray on my Cnc
Never seen anything like this. I want a “making of” video more than I want a raise.
Awesome work Dave! It takes some real effort to stump Bill!
Amazing work!!! Very well thought out and executed!
I'm sorry Bill has left us!
Thank you Bill for all the knowledge you shared, enjoy your retirement!
Well Done Dave for the ingenious lock design.
Good effort Bill.
That thing is gorgeous!
The amount of hours that must have gone into the design and workmanship must have been enormous, a truly beautiful work of art is all I can say ;-)
Amazing tolerances on this lock. Great job Dave.
Nicely done Dave.
Beautiful lock. Great Video Bill
Well done Dave, wonderful creation.
Freaking beautiful work! That.. is... awesome!!
what a lock!! Nice video like always! gotta say your locklab has changed how I view and practice lock sport. If your new or a master we all can learn something form the courses on locklab cheers!
That is one great piece of work. Maybe the lock makers should hire this man.
VERY NICE WORK Dave!
That is an absolute masterpiece... Seriously Dave, if you haven't, shop your design around to the better lock conglomerates (Assa group, etc).... Even with slightly decreased tolerances inherent to mass production, this would still be an incredibly secure lock.
Brilliant design
Incredible work Dave
Here's a plus up for Dave! Dang dude, that's one heck of a lock. Get that design to fit a kwikset housing and you probably could make millions. After all, who wouldn't want a unpickable lock for their household. Cheers!
The reason locks are so bad is because customers are happy to pay less for a lock that isn't as secure. We don't live inside bank vaults.
So, unless Dave could make a production line that makes these locks to these high tolerances at the same price point as worse locks. He's not going to make a penny unfortunately.
@@RealCadde Yeah, the problem isn't that they're not capable of making good locks, the problem is that they aren't pressured by consumers to make good locks.
The other thing most people breaking into a house aren't picking your lock they are forcable breaking your door or window.
This has to be the meanest lock I've seen throughout my time adventuring through your channel and LPL's channel lol
Excellent design, if only high-quality precision machining like this was commercially viable for mass production! It would be beautiful to see this lock out for general use for high security applications!
It's just so beautiful too.
Absolutely beautiful lock there is no reason why we shouldn’t have something like that on the regular in our stores
Great job Dave !!
Awesome machining skills and a really beautiful lock. Would be fantastic in a Rotalok style body.
Hell of a lock. Great job
That is an absolutely beautiful lock, but I'm sure I can pick it!
I'd say that you would probably stand a chance. If anyone could figure out I think you could!
@@Phred_Phlintstoner thanks very much!
Great job Dave.
Beautiful lock!
Impressive Dave! Good job!
Very nice work...good job bill 👍
Beautiful lock. Nice going Dave 👍😎
Good Job Dave ! Bill lost sleep over this one. Thanks Bill
WOW, DAVE! BRAVO!
Fabulous lock!
Happy retirement bill! Tha now for sharing your knowledge with the world
Those Gerda locks are very popular in Poland, I have it on my door and only after few videos like this one I've learnt how good they are. They are quite cheap and the key works like very loud whistle so good for mountain hikes too! 😉
Also, they can be turned 2 times from outside but only once from inside so while you lock your house from outside, the burglar who enters through a window won't be able to leave through a door (as a "moving company employeer" for example). I had to wait in the window waiting for a neighbour to ask them to open me from outside when someone forgot and locked me inside with two rotations ;)
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Bosnianbill: 🔒 “unpickable”
LockPickingLawyer: “Hold my beer” 🍺
Awaiting LockPickingLawyer to post a video :P
Sadly, the LockPickingLawyer doesn't seem to post videos on "here's a lock I wasn't able to pick."
@@Malidictus He has before, but it was a single video or maybe two videos where he covered locks he had the most difficulty with, as well as some he never succeeded in picking.
@@skillinp1388 Right, I do recall. Wasn't that the BosnianBill collab with the locks from the "naughty bucket?"
@@Malidictus, I believe so. LPL’s focus seems to be a bit more on the side of evaluating locks that are likely to be marketed to your average person.