LOADING 300 Blackout (DETAILED) + Tips + Important "NEWS"
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- Some data in the books are "INCORRECT" Must know info, From how to get brass, clean brass, lube brass cases, prime brass, trim to length, add powder, powder measures, Bullet seating and crimping the brass cases.Some TIPS and TRICKS. No matter if your loading , cast lead bullets or FMJ. Powder coated, Lubed, or Jacketed bullets. EVERYTHING HERE.....Including cost per round!
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I can't stop watching these vids.. great info for a new guy casting.. keep it up!!!!
hey H82bpor well thank you so much for commenting. .. it let's me know I'm doing something right! best of luck to ya!!!!
I had a very big problem with Lee 300 blackout die ... I followed your advice and I became a happy person ... With rcbs small base die my problems are over ...
Thank you very much....
I love your target results. 4 good shots and 1 flyer. I wish my flyers were that close.
You Always give Great info! Thanks so much! You are a riot, love the base you made for your powder measure. Always doing something a bit different. Makes your videos unique. Thank again for a great channel.
thanks Crazycasting Bonnifield. .. thanks for letting me know I'm doing something right! thought it was appropriate to have a lead ingot base... I love it! I'm a bit of a diy guy! thanks a bunch! !!
I never saw you before but you are the best in talking about loading 300 BK , I'm sure your other videos I hope so I'm in California we have too many laws for ammo but I'm reloading now. thank you
I agree with you on the 300 . I didn't think it was worth while until a supplier of mine put me in a good supply of 5.56 brass!
You always give helpful information thanks (excellent information)
Thanks for the video, really helpful info.
Great stuff brother, new to 300 blackout and I love the videos. New subscriber
As always great content !
Thank you for Hornady trim info new reloader would not have known
ur right about data even on something supper common 308 ull get a couple grains variace max loads so be extra safe and conservative with ur starting loads especially if ur fairly new to reloading
My first powder dropper was same Lee one and then I bought RCBS for about 60 bucks on ebay and the difference is night and day, plastic vs. metal drum. Now my lee dropper is gathering dust, so recommend spend a little more and you'll be much happier. I screwed mine to 1" piece of board that I clamp to the table when I need it. The clamp is to the left out of the way and it's very sturdy and since I can unclam it, I can dump the powder easily since you can't detach hopper on RCBS.
Hey, Elvis. You popped up on my phone this afternoon so I thought I would let you know I have been missing your chats. I go back and rewatch one now and then....still relivelant !
I love the simplicity In what you do. You refine it to the basics. A 15.00 press, a 20.00 powder measure, using a plastic ammo container for a loading tray. I also look at all the cases to verify they all look the same.
I do have to wonder how you don’t turn that powder measure over !😂
My sequence on a single stage press is a little different. I load my primed cases into the loading block with the primer up. When I remove them to add powder, I go ahead and set a bullet on it and seat the bullet before picking up the next piece of brass. That prevents me from inadvertently forgetting to charge one of the cases and making a squib load.
I had feeding problems for years with my Lee die. I gave up reloading in the AR platform.. now the Mini 14 is a different story. If you could prime a turd, it shoot it. RCBS small base die and the go no gauge has solved all my AR problems. Great video Elvis, your a reloading scholar!
Odd u say that I shoot tons of mixed brass with crimped primers etc in my ar and my lee dies are awsome . It’s the easiest rifle rd I ever loaded
@@jefferyboring4410 Since I posted this reply I learned the die I was using wasn’t a full length sizer. I purchased a full length die and it’s business as usual now.
Oh ok that makes more sense. Happy shooting
Great video, man. That Hornady manual info is important! My copy of the manual has it correct but there are a bunch of older ones that don't. Luckily I had read about that before I got started with 300blk and knew to double check.
With all the problems I've had shooting cast bullets, I think I will buy the same mold you're using and give it a try. I will probably pick up the RCBS Small Base resizing die as well, just for the heck of it! The sizing dies I'm using don't give me any chambering issues (if I set them properly) but maybe there's something else going on with resizing that's contributing to my cast bullet problems. Who knows. I'm willing to try anything.
Thanks again. Great video. I love the long ones!
hey Johnny's Reloading Bench. ... there's just no way to cram serious information in a 5 min video! this bullet I'm using is beautiful! lot of potential with this one . sub or super and all in between. I had a subscriber tell me they shaved .0005 off the lee sizing die! imagine that. . he said it worked. . crafty folks out there! good day to ya!
Jonny,, Your videos are just like waiting for Saturday cartoons as a kid. I always enjoy your content, No matter how long your videos are. You also do a good job at keeping me in check and are a good example by brining up all the little thing most guys don't ever comment about, I know Elvis does the same thing in his Videos as well. I try however I almost always think of something I should have brought up in my videos. I'm a serious subscriber to both You and Elvis. Dave.
Hey Johnny, if you want to get the RCBS SB die I personally swear by it when I'm making brass from old .223/5.56 casings, after I fire form the casings I just use my Dillon die for reloading.
I just got my 300 blackout in. It's sighted in for 50 yards. Going to have to work on it. I'll try your bullets that your using and see how they work. I have Winchester 296.
GOOD SHOOTING ROUND!
Here we are, 2023 and primers went from .3 cents to 10 - 15 cents a primer depending how you get them, local, online. Still tho I recover my lead, brass and cast my own missles, so with powder and primer it comes out to about 20 -23 cents a round. $200-230 a thousand still better than $900 and up per thousand rounds of subsonic 300 blk. First thousand rounds of ammo about if not covers all your reloading equipment. Shoot 300 a guy or gal ought to consider reloading if your not already.
Elvis, Great Video dude. It awesome when someone research's and make it available to other shooter that there is a potential for something that is unsafe. also. I like your "Stock up" advice, That is something that I've been doing since the mid 80's, It will keep you shooting when things dry up, any powder that works the best is a stock up idem also Primers when they are on sale. You and Many others out there are discovering the freedom of casting also, That is another way of "Keep shooting", However you save money at the same time. also expanding your knowledge of reloading. Good shooting Buddy! Dave.
Hey Man! Thorsaxe777.... I was saving the best to last and missed your comment all together.... thanks brother! reloading is awesome in every way! Im waiting to find cci primers on sale, to restock. reloading FREEDOM! and free up some cash, in the long run... or if your like me... it becomes an addiction,,, : ) ..... God bless ya!
Yes.. Once you start going down the road of reloading It's enjoyable and rewarding, Most people out there at the range just want to shoot because it' a pastime for them and that about it, Not You and I,, We have discovered the other side of the house, The freedom it gives to us and the experience we profit from in knowledge. I don't know everything, However I have my theory's, opinions and thoughts on the Matter that I'm addressing, But I always announce that "This is my though through experience and what I Believe" Call it a disclaimers, However I don't know everything there is to know. Good shooting to ya Buddy, Dave.
+Thorsaxe777 my sentiments exactly. .. don't know it all "disclaimer" ; )
elvis ammo Yup.. Mr. Cookie show us Grace in our productions.
Hey man, are you also JIUJITSU2000? I am just getting into reloading (newby) and really enjoy watching you work, and listening to you! Thanks for your videos and looking forward to reloading my 300AAC ammo!
As new to loading 300 blackout what BHN are you happy with btw I am pushing mine PC and with a gas check. Kind of OCD but that's how I roll. Thanks for keeping the vids up I learn a lot from you.
I like to use no powder coat and make sure the lead is hard enough that I can load without a expanding die. If the speed is not crazy it won’t lead the barrel a sub won’t lead it up so if I can avoid powder coat I do. I like minimum work ! That’s not a bad thing. I don’t even clean brass or prep primer pockets ever! I’ve shot steel case convert case with big nasty ugly flash holes with no change in accuracy so I don’t bother. I get plenty of accuracy
Enjoy your videos and have learned quite a bit. You stopped my leading problems years ago with PC bullets. Anyway first time loading 300 blackout. I measured my chamber using the 155 gn Lee cast and I can't load to your COAL. I had to adjust to 1.965" for my rifle to chamber a round. This extends the base of the bullet into the powder chamber about .0100" below the neck. Is this safe? Thanks and keep the info coming.
Good vid! The "Loadbooks are not infallible. They have one for "25 & 32 acp" and the "32 Mag", but not any for the 32 S&W or the 32 S&W Long. I recently bought a Lyman mold the 358480 a 133gr double cavity. It isn't listed in the 38 special loadbook, but is listed in the 357 Mag one.The 358313 170gr isn't listed either in the 38 special book, but a 168gr bullet is. Go figure. My books are copyrighted 2004. Thanks
That was me trying to get that info to Johnny's Reloading Bench . Because I thought I heard him when he was making/forming his brass that he trimmed to 1.360 ..... I may have been wrong but also heard that he was using a Hornady manual . I just wanted to get him to double check it for safety and it could cause other issues .
Tried stating that on one of his videos as well . Thank you both for sharing what your learning and developing. P.S. The Sheridan slotted case gauge is an awesome tool to have !!!!! Worth every penny !
Maybe it was after a few firings idk .
hey C Delo. .. yhea, I thought I remembered it was you. . it goes to show you, I pay attention. .. and I'm glad you brought it up. especially with the chambering problems people have.. want to be sure to rule that out! 1.358 is the min. 1.368 is the max . Hornady had it bad wrong in the beginning. and that data is still floting around! Good info! thanks for pointing that out! My subscribers are at LEAST half the show! I have a the lyman case gauge and it seems to be spot on for my chamber. .. I know Johnny's Reloading Bench seen this video, so if he used the wrong data he couldn't have missed the problems with Hornady data in this video. ... thanks for your participation and keeping us all in check!!!!
+elvis ammo Sorry about that 1.360 = that's not right either and I couldn't change it after I posted the comment . But great video and info content ! Please keep em coming !!!!
+C Delo yea I knew what you ment (off the top of your head) thanks again! !!
+C Delo Was glad to read he knew about it prior in the comments
I have a old spray can of white lithium grease I use for case lube. Works on everything big rifle steel case whatever.
Oh and the difference between the Lee and RCBS resizing is it goes both ways. I think if u turn ur Lee die in a little more u might be fine with the 335 diameter! I don't think Lee would keep making incorrect dies! And if you crimp it more u could be fine as well.
Good stuff Elvis! Just bought the RCBS SB from midway. However, a taper crimp die comes in the set. Does this mean I don't need my Lee factory crimp die??
if case is too long can get fire out of battery the bolt will not lock.
RCBS Small Base, I always full length resize all my brass that gets fired in semi auto, lever and pump action firearms to insure proper function.
I've had factory new ammo that failed on a case gauge.
I'm going to try sierra 150 grain FP 30-30 bullets in my 300 AAC blackout should have excellent expansion, Manually pulling charging handle back and letting it go it feeds fine, just need to see how it functions live fire, I paid $8.99 per 100 for the sierra bullets many years ago, bought 5 boxes.
powder only goes into my uniflow when I load and when I leave the loading bench powder is returned to the can.
With the powder throws need to get powder settled so it throws consistent charges, I dump the first 10 charges back into the top then every other charge goes on the scale for the next 20 cases then after that every 5th charge goes on the scale, if a charge is off the previous 4 charges get dumped and redone after measure is adjusted to throw correct charge, after 100 I measure every 10th charge
I've just been using a taper crimp, haven't had an issue with bullets getting shoved back in the case, if you try to crimp too heavy I've seen the shoulder get shoved back
hey Ghost Shadow... The 300 blk seems to have some issues relating to this subject. More so than other calibers... some will agree. I have seen the chamber problems cause a slam fire dropping the bolt? And Im glad you brought up factory ammo not fitting a case gauge! Sure enough! I have also heard of factory brass that is sold by name brands not chamber! I agree that some of the problems are from bad builds.. But the info I share, I try not to include those! : ) I have tried the flat points.. really bad for feeding, Just watch the ogive distance to the lands when seating... Thanks for sharing
Correction to my last comment. I bought a copy of Modern Reloading 2nd edition (I already have the 1st edition) 38 special does have data for 130gr and 135gr bullets. So I stand corrected.
Elvis - I am looking to purchase the Lee DC TL309-23005r Mould to make 220 grain bullets. What mix of alloy would you suggest? Should I use the 50% Linotype 50% Wheel Weights or something like 90% Lead, 5% Tin and 5% Antimony?
Wow. There's a lot of info. A full case of powder is good. Hope other people are watching, it would help others with there cronie readings. I like the word speed . How's the dog. Was that his Camino appearance .good info.
hey there Nick L... my dog is the youtube star and director now! hard to beat the winning cute ways! yhea I really tried to offer some realistic detailed info that someone starting out could use as well .... I have a lot of subscribers that are starting out reloading with 300blackout. .... brave ,smart folks... getten it done! thanks again for watching and commenting! !!!!
Hello I'm new at this and I have watched your video I'm using Hornandy 300 AAC 3 set dies and I'm looking at the reload data books and they all set Case AOL of 1368 and was having problems accomplishing this with the lee case gauge and shell holder so I decided to pull some cartridges out and pull the bullets out and noticed that the over all case length is 1358 on the following Ammo
Winchester
Hornandy
American eagle
But in my reload data books it says 1368. So which is correct and why?
Great vid! Do you use gas checks?
Great video, just a few comments. I still think its very important to do 10 powder drop and check the average. Reason why, our temperature and humidity change daily which could change your drops. I am subscriber, I would still stress the importance of having gauges for all of your calibers. When dealing with stack tolerances, its critical to check the head space with a gauge. I have been reloading for several years now, I have seen to many times that someone has been hurt because no one double checked the head space. All reloaders should be using gauges. You do outstanding job on your video's and you stress the important of all the steps. I kinda got mix message about using gauges on this video. Please don't take my comments negative, just wanted to stress a few point. Good Shooting My Friend. Harleychromeman
hey Harleychromeman. ... sorry I somehow missed your comment. . thanks for the compliment! the powder drop I had been using before the video. . checked and double checked. .. never can be to carefully though. .. and I hope I didn't send mixed messages on the case gauge. . sometimes doing a video it's hard to make people understand what you're thinking if the words don't come out of your mouth! ; ) I was trying to make the point to measure your brass ... it allows you to understand mixed brass to know what minimums and maximums are.. I like to be involved in the construction. It's how my brain works. .. but definitely have a gauge that works. . the reason I say that is because I've heard of a problem with the wilson gauge passing rounds that wouldn't chamber. .. I use the lyman case gauge and it seems to be most in line with my chamber in my 300 blackout. thanks for watching and commenting. ... enjoy thanks rest of your weekend! !!.
Keep you're video's coming. I enjoy that you take the time to cover all the important of reloading. I concur with you on using Lyman gauges for check rounds. I am just getting into powder coating my bullets. I would say your process is the best out their for powder coating. Getting ready to order my powder. Also looking at buying another loadmaster press for reloading blackout 300 rounds. Good Shooting My Friend!
The marking the contaners is good advice I'm just getting in to reloading but i would hate to find out what a 300 win mag powder might do in a 300 blk out
It would be a slow powder. Your velocity would drop.
I am curious, have you ever used Hodgdon CFE powder on any of your powder coated bullets?
Really liking the videos! Im new to this and wanted to ask what's the minimum OAL a round should have I've only done a couple and they're coming out too 2.090 I'm just wondering if that's too short? Thank you
hey Steven fukuda... There really isn't a minimum, Just so you realize the deeper the bullet the less room in the case, and pressure considerations to be made. The next is function. The rifle must feed the bullet. A smooth transition from mag over the feed ramp into the chamber.
LOL, I use 1.9 Grains of powder in my 22lr reloads.
Elvis can you help me out I have the lee300 blackout set of dyes an I got the Lee drill case length set up .but can only get it down to .371 an can not get it lower to .368 r lower what am I doing wrong?
Your videos are super helpful!! What diameter are you sizing your 300 bullets to? And are you sizing both the "missles" and the super sonics to the same diameter?
hey Tyler .... yep sizing them both. .309. thanks for the question and comment!!!
This is GREAT INFO BUT I was wondering what size do you size those bullets to? Out of the mold it drops at 312 so that is to big for the 300 BLK. Do you size to 308 or 309 OR ????
hey Tony Lara. .. that 312 is my fav. bullet. .. I size it to 309 no problem. .. after I powdercoat. . the bullet is made for the 762x 39 I believe. .
Total newbie here, just trying to learn it. When he says he "makes" these is he molding the lead? He mentions that a fan told him they bought premade Remington that only 1 out of 4 chambered. What is he "making" here besides reloading? Thanks
You don't seem to be getting the powder leaking out of the measure like I do. Is there a technique or adjustment on the measure?
We did bright yellow from westcoast. it worked out great. Two coats. First try bombed. our oven would only go to 350.Will use it for target practice later. Did 124 g .355 and 55g 224 about 200 of each. Here is the skinny of it. oven to 400 powder in bowl shake about 10 sec. cook 20 min.. when 1 batch is done you can be back cooking in less than a min.We did 4 cookings in about 1 and 1/2 hour. mic at 356 and 225 when done.. we have a lot left from the 8 oz bottle. We have 11 more colors left, one is gloss clear Might try to second coat dont know yet. I do not think westcoast has got the message yet that there is a whole lot of reloaders out here that powder coat. They make a great product.
hey Karen Mills! !! I'm laughing hard!!! that a girl... target practice with the junk, that way it don't go to waste!! ; ) you made my day... well it sounds like you Girls got it under control for sure! thanks for the info! ever think to maybe use the clear over one of the other colors? just a thought. I ordered some more powder because of the sale. .. and got some dark green! couldn't wait to show it off... uploading a video. .. let me know how the loading and shooting goes! Best of luck to yas!!!
We learned a lot.1. use a thermometer in oven. Do not know why but the 224 did nit stick. The 355 stuck some used the spank the baby to release them. We are doing 150 g 308 tomorrow. out of our aks we are crono 2000 to 2050 1.5 at 100 yds want to see what our powder coat will do. Elvis good info. we have loaded a few 300 bkout about 500 rounds. not powdered. ..... really am liking the westcoast powder.
+Janet Meyer Awesome! I'm interested, are you shooting lubed bullets from the AK at 2000-2050? if so I'd love to know how fast the same load in the powdercoat bullets do? I suspect you'll get 75- 100 fps more. you can tell me if I'm right! one of the things I'd like to know is, What colors go on easy and what colors are more difficult? I'm making you guys pay for my videos by answering questions! !!! ; ) Thanks for participating! you guys have good info as well .... best of luck To ya and thanks for watching!
Eastwood not westc0ast We are a bunch of gun lovers getting ready ro defend, Have a great day, Will let you know about the powder AK 150 g
+Mary Johns ... yep, I knew what ya ment... : ) thanks Mary Johns! got a gun lover here..... looking forward to hearing from yas!
How much of IMR4198 do you use for Lee 155gr cast? Got ton of this powder, none of my reloading sources mention it for any blackout loads (Hornady, Nosler, Sierra). I just did a quick check on IMR load data online and it shows it but for bullets starting 180 grain and up. I wonder it if will be suitable for 150gr FMJ pulls I bought.
He mentions his load at 2:17, 16.2gr
what OAL are you? with the lee 160's?
Any Idea about Hornady resizing die does it bring case down to correct size like RCBS small base die? I have been rejecting several cases using that die.
hey Joseph Cirigliano.... Im not for sure about that one. the correct dies for auto rifles are short base dies... I had one person tell me that they shaved .005 off a lee sizing die and it worked great. 300 aac is finicky about chambering . in my experience the rcbs sb die and lee crimp die is the bomb! those 2 I rely on!!!!! thanks for watching.. maybe someone that uses the hornaday die will see your comment!!!!
very knowledgeable but like watching spicoly from fast times at ridgmont high teach me bout bullets
Speed the videos up to 1.25 by using the little gear icon
I always run his videos at 1.5X+
Nothing beats a hillbillie's knowledge when it comes to saving money and shooting Firearms
Im getting into 300blk reloading. How did you figure out your OAL on that load? Im looking at coated subs, but I don't think they are in any book. Where do you think I should get my OAL? Thanks)
Hey Carlos G.. Yeah good question. As you know there is no load data for some things. I usually measure my chamber using a marked bullet and back off about 40 thousands or so for an AR .. So this way I establish an OAL max. then I work out the OAL based on function. cycling reliably! A case gauge is helpful to check the ammo in. An Oal that I use for the 230 gr lee bullet is 2.230 Always check to make sure it chambers easily! This OAL seems to work for others as well. Just double check.. Hope this helps
hey elvis whats the # or brand of die you are using to flair the mouth of the case?
hey Steve. .. I don't know off the top of my head but it's the lee universal expanding die.. you should be able to find it with that info.. sorry. . just trying to give ya an answer without looking at it! ; )
If memory serves, the mold you used to make those bullets was .312 diameter. Did you encounter any problems sizing them down to .308?
hey Michael Kingswood... no they sized with no problem at all.. great bullet design! thnks for watching!
Thanks for the reply.
Quick follow-up: do you re-size before or after you powder coat?
+Michael Kingswood ... size after...
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Hey Elvis ammo
hey. Way2go Rule. ... hope all is well. ! thanks for stopping by!
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hey the baddest..... you are the baddest! awesome coffee!!! : )
If I had a dime every time he said “um” or “uh” I would have enough money to reload for the rest of my life.
You lost me at 30 yards.