Good video. I too like the Barnes Tac X loaded over 296. I have an Anderson lower with a Palmetto State upper (M4 free float) and that load delivers the prettiest ten shot one inch group at 100 yards. I'm actually quite impressed at the native accuracy of the Blackout cartridge.
Thank you very much for watching we are glad you enjoyed it! It really is a great bullet for the cartridge and it even expands well at reasonable velocities. That is very cool sounds glad to hear you have had good results with them. As much as people make fun of PSA they do seem to perform well in the accuracy department. The .300 Blackout is a lot of fun to load for and it definitely makes my top 10 for favorite cartridges. Always nice to hear others are having good experiences as well! -- Jeremiah
Good video. I started handloading in 1972. I have noticed that some powders only like their own fouling. You might need to fire a couple of shots before they group. A lot of hunters come to the field with a slightly fouled bore as the first hit will be true.
Probably a bit late in responding to this video but may l just say excellent video, l've been subscribing to Handloader magazive and hands down it is an absolutely excellent publication. Really appreciate your work! I like your style of presenting and appreciate your honesty. Very jealous of your freedom in the US, l have to be content with a bolt 300blk here in Australia.
It is never too late we do our very best to respond to everyone although it may take a few days sometimes! Thank you so much for your subscription to the magazine! It is because of good folks like you supporting us in print that we are able to make these videos. The feedback is always welcome and it is nice to hear we are doing a good job! The .300 Blackout is a super versatile and fun cartridge in both the AR and the bolt action. It is hard to say which one I prefer! It is nice to enjoy the freedoms we have perhaps one day we will see that more widespread! One could only hope! Thank you for watching glad you enjoyed it! Good shooting and happy loading to you!
I've had great results with Shooter World Blackout in .300 Blackout. I also tried Shooters World Heavy Pistol and it too shoots very accurately in this cartridge and functions reliable in an AR with a short barrel.
So far we have been impressed with Shooters World powders in general. They do have some very nice options for the Blackout cartridge. We have not tried heavy pistol we will have to look into that powder and do some more testing! It is so hard to fit everything into a single video. Thank you for watching!
@@HandloaderTV I try to publish anything that works out or doesn't on my channel or via The Reloader's Network. I'm not the best at keeping a regular upload schedule. Also, I have a moderate stash of primers, and will probably stick to known loads until I can reliably replenish the supply.
I've been using Steel Valley Casting powder coated cast bullets in my gun. They are a Sierra 220 copy. I'm using the cfe black powder and have been getting awesome accuracy and sd. They are a pointed boat tail style cast bullet and they feed absolutely flawless in my ar. Great video have been enjoying these videos since I found them.
Very interesting we have not heard of them before, we will have to check them out! Sounds like it is worth a try at the very least. I personally cast and powder coat myself for the .300 Blackout and have had some pretty good luck with them but never Sub MOA yet just close, for plinking and shooting inside 200 yards they work just fine though. Thanks for the tip and thank you for watching. It is always nice to hear that others are enjoying the videos!
@@SCQT at subsonic velocities was getting around 1” at 50 yards and 1 1/2-2” groups at 100 that’s with a red dot. But they are very very easy to reload. No lead shavings which is a huge plus. Also very consistent. They are definitely worth it.
Thank you very much we were pretty happy overall with our results, especially for the AR with in being a "budget build". We would love to cover more .300 Blackout in the future but we also have a lot of other cartridges and things we would like to cover. I personally am a huge fan of the .300 Blackout and shoot it quite a bit. Thank you for watching and for the feedback!
No problem thank you for watching it and providing feedback we appreciate it! We will continue to test as many rifles, handguns and cartridges time will allow! have a great day!
I can believe that I have a strong desire to hunt Arizona Javelina with my .300 Blackout bolt rifle I think it would be a perfect match! Thank you for watching and for taking the time to comment your experience with the cartridge! --Jeremiah
We do our best! It is a lot more time consuming but we feel the results are well worth it in the end. We will do out best to give the most accurate and comprehensive videos we can. Thank you for watching and we are glad you enjoyed it!
My personal recommendation is tailor your bullet to your application, my experience with .300 blackout subsonics on game is somewhat limited but I have performed a lot of expansion tests. I suggest checking out Lehigh or Maker Rex bullets those seem to be the most reliably expanding bullet at subsonic velocities. However I will say hunting with subsonics is less than ideal and performance and range is rather limited.
That is true we did not use any Lil' Gun powder, I have had good experiences with Lil' Gun it also opens up the question of weather or not it erodes throats and quite frankly I did not want to open that can of worms in this video. I would have to do a lot more testing to either confirm or deny those claims. So I simply decided to stick to other powder that I knew were good performers. Thank you for taking the time to comment and I hope you enjoy the rest of the video! --Jeremiah
Handloader TV that was meant jokingly… I use Lil gun for 300 blackout with great success and I like it a lot. I have never had any problems with it. I too make most of what I shoot in 300 blackout with 223/556 cases. It’s a ton of fun and there’s never been a shortage of 223 brass for free at the range
@@SAFE-AT-HOME-SPORTS. Oh my apologies I swear I have the hardest time picking up on humor on here!! That is really good to know I have had good results with it as well and I have yet to run into any issues with it in this cartridge but I also am not pushing the highest pressures I can through my guns. I would be curious to see if there is really any difference between lil' Gun and other powders like H110. --Jeremiah
@@SAFE-AT-HOME-SPORTS. That is one thing that is a little lacking those mid range bullets 150ish grains or so but perhaps we can revisit this in the future. --Jeremiah
That is a great powder for many cartridges, We have had great results as well in the .300 Blackout. We wanted to showcase more new powders for people it is so hard to fit everything in a single video perhaps we can revisit this cartridge in the future. Thank you for watching!
@@HandloaderTV I am certainly not trying to gripe about gift horses. I like your format, and I think the information you provide is good. That's hard for someone who clearly is a sponsored magazine format producer. I really do like 300 BO stuff though. It is easily the most fun cartridge for me. I don't see many people developing data for lightweight cast supers, ie 110-130 grain. Those make this a very fun and very economical plinking/ action shooting cartridge. IMO, people get so wrapped up in trying to compare it to other cartrigdes, they can't just see what it is on its own. Have a pistol AR with ~11cpr supers, with moderate recoil, and fairly flat trajectory inside 250, and it does everything you would want to do for most 3gun style play, even cheaper than 223. With subs, you can safely shoot steel up close and the recoil is less than blowback PCCs.
@@GunFunZS We appreciate that and appreciate the kind words and are glad to hear that you like the format. We are always wishing we could do more though! We strive to do our best to provide honest and trustworthy results that our viewers can trust. I agree though I personally love the .300 Blackout both of those rifles are mine which is why we were able to do a bolt action and an AR in the same video. It is a very economical and fun cartridge. They do get wrapped up in group size and cartridge comparisons. It does very well for what it was designed closer range engagements and versatility between supersonics and subsonics. The low recoil certainly makes it a fun plinking cartridge as well.
I have the old Nikon super/sub scope with a similar thougth to the reticle. It does tend to work, but the hold overs won't correspond exactly. I emailed them and it turns out they were using remington 125 supers and 220 SMK subs out of a 16" barrel in about 2013 to come up with their BDC.
Yeah very similar to the Leupold they were using 110 grain and 220 grain bullets for the BDC reticle. However you can tailor loads to use the reticle effectively by tuning your velocity using bullets with similar BC.
@@HandloaderTV It is a shame Nikon stopped doing rifle scopes. I think they could have done better with reticle design. Specifically making each feature a known value for quick glassing to measure distance. A lot of their BDCs account for drop, but they put little thought into windage, or intuitive measurement of objects.
@@GunFunZS I was thinking the exact same thing reading your comment! it is a shame. I agree they could've done better but they were still a nice budget option and I always had good luck with their scopes.
@@HandloaderTV I would gladly pick up another of the same scope off of ebay. It wants locking turrets, but a bit of paint pen will give you a clear visual if something got bumped.
@@GunFunZS Yeah they seem to be getting harder and harder to find sadly. I am not sure of anyone else currently making anything with a .300 blackout reticle. That's a great idea with the paint pen though.
I have tried cast bullets in both of these rifles and the Howa certainly shoots them better than the AR but as far as using those powders I have not had very much luck with cast bullets I have had decent results with Accurate 1680 and cast bullets. I usually powder coat my cast bullets for the blackout as well. It is something that I do want to more of in the future though. Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
It is a good cartridge, similar to the .300 Blackout, average case capacity is about 10 grains more than the .300 Blackout so you should be able to achieve higher velocities than the .300 Blackout. There is a lot less "refinement" with the 7.62x39 for lack of better wording. However a well made rifle with good components should be able to duplicate .300 Blackout accuracy. Overall I enjoy the cartridge and it works well for its intended purpose. However I personally prefer the .300 Blackout over the 7.62x39. Perhaps we will have to do a video on that cartridge in the future. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of actual information on the cartridge just a lot of internet lore.
Some folks seem to like the music and others do not, most of our more recent videos do not feature the music. We are always looking to improve and the feedback is always appreciated! Thank you for watching! --Jeremiah
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Good video. I too like the Barnes Tac X loaded over 296. I have an Anderson lower with a Palmetto State upper (M4 free float) and that load delivers the prettiest ten shot one inch group at 100 yards. I'm actually quite impressed at the native accuracy of the Blackout cartridge.
Thank you very much for watching we are glad you enjoyed it! It really is a great bullet for the cartridge and it even expands well at reasonable velocities. That is very cool sounds glad to hear you have had good results with them. As much as people make fun of PSA they do seem to perform well in the accuracy department. The .300 Blackout is a lot of fun to load for and it definitely makes my top 10 for favorite cartridges. Always nice to hear others are having good experiences as well! -- Jeremiah
Good video. I started handloading in 1972. I have noticed that some powders only like their own fouling. You might need to fire a couple of shots before they group.
A lot of hunters come to the field with a slightly fouled bore as the first hit will be true.
Probably a bit late in responding to this video but may l just say excellent video, l've been subscribing to Handloader magazive and hands down it is an absolutely excellent publication. Really appreciate your work! I like your style of presenting and appreciate your honesty. Very jealous of your freedom in the US, l have to be content with a bolt 300blk here in Australia.
It is never too late we do our very best to respond to everyone although it may take a few days sometimes! Thank you so much for your subscription to the magazine! It is because of good folks like you supporting us in print that we are able to make these videos. The feedback is always welcome and it is nice to hear we are doing a good job! The .300 Blackout is a super versatile and fun cartridge in both the AR and the bolt action. It is hard to say which one I prefer! It is nice to enjoy the freedoms we have perhaps one day we will see that more widespread! One could only hope! Thank you for watching glad you enjoyed it! Good shooting and happy loading to you!
Thanks for the good concise information
You are very welcome!! Thank you for watching and for the feedback it is always appreciated! --Jeremiah
I've had great results with Shooter World Blackout in .300 Blackout. I also tried Shooters World Heavy Pistol and it too shoots very accurately in this cartridge and functions reliable in an AR with a short barrel.
So far we have been impressed with Shooters World powders in general. They do have some very nice options for the Blackout cartridge. We have not tried heavy pistol we will have to look into that powder and do some more testing! It is so hard to fit everything into a single video. Thank you for watching!
I've heard good things about that too. I need to try some.
@@GunFunZS You'll have to let us know what your results are if you do!
@@HandloaderTV I try to publish anything that works out or doesn't on my channel or via The Reloader's Network. I'm not the best at keeping a regular upload schedule. Also, I have a moderate stash of primers, and will probably stick to known loads until I can reliably replenish the supply.
I've been using Steel Valley Casting powder coated cast bullets in my gun. They are a Sierra 220 copy. I'm using the cfe black powder and have been getting awesome accuracy and sd. They are a pointed boat tail style cast bullet and they feed absolutely flawless in my ar. Great video have been enjoying these videos since I found them.
Very interesting we have not heard of them before, we will have to check them out! Sounds like it is worth a try at the very least. I personally cast and powder coat myself for the .300 Blackout and have had some pretty good luck with them but never Sub MOA yet just close, for plinking and shooting inside 200 yards they work just fine though. Thanks for the tip and thank you for watching. It is always nice to hear that others are enjoying the videos!
Was eyeing those myself. What kind of accuracy / consistency are we talking?
@@SCQT at subsonic velocities was getting around 1” at 50 yards and 1 1/2-2” groups at 100 that’s with a red dot. But they are very very easy to reload. No lead shavings which is a huge plus. Also very consistent. They are definitely worth it.
@@Rushshooting67913 Pretty solid for what they are and what they cost. Seem like a good option.
Thanks for the input
I would love to get those groups with subs. Very impressive. Please do another video. I load so much black out for 3 different rifles
Thank you very much we were pretty happy overall with our results, especially for the AR with in being a "budget build". We would love to cover more .300 Blackout in the future but we also have a lot of other cartridges and things we would like to cover. I personally am a huge fan of the .300 Blackout and shoot it quite a bit. Thank you for watching and for the feedback!
yo i really appreciate the time and effort but into this video. good up the good work!
No problem thank you for watching it and providing feedback we appreciate it! We will continue to test as many rifles, handguns and cartridges time will allow! have a great day!
Cartridge is deadly on deer and hogs out to 200 yards for sure. My daughter and wife use it as a deer rifle.
I can believe that I have a strong desire to hunt Arizona Javelina with my .300 Blackout bolt rifle I think it would be a perfect match! Thank you for watching and for taking the time to comment your experience with the cartridge! --Jeremiah
Nice to see a cartridge compared in two styles of gun continue that when you can .
We do our best! It is a lot more time consuming but we feel the results are well worth it in the end. We will do out best to give the most accurate and comprehensive videos we can. Thank you for watching and we are glad you enjoyed it!
what projectiles would you recommend for subsonic 300 blackout hunting applications(deer, hogs, javelina, coyotes)?
My personal recommendation is tailor your bullet to your application, my experience with .300 blackout subsonics on game is somewhat limited but I have performed a lot of expansion tests. I suggest checking out Lehigh or Maker Rex bullets those seem to be the most reliably expanding bullet at subsonic velocities. However I will say hunting with subsonics is less than ideal and performance and range is rather limited.
Looking for bullets for hunting Pennsylvania white tale deer in combination with the 300 black out. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
I see no Lil Gun powder there. I’ll finish watching this later
That is true we did not use any Lil' Gun powder, I have had good experiences with Lil' Gun it also opens up the question of weather or not it erodes throats and quite frankly I did not want to open that can of worms in this video. I would have to do a lot more testing to either confirm or deny those claims. So I simply decided to stick to other powder that I knew were good performers. Thank you for taking the time to comment and I hope you enjoy the rest of the video! --Jeremiah
Handloader TV that was meant jokingly… I use Lil gun for 300 blackout with great success and I like it a lot. I have never had any problems with it. I too make most of what I shoot in 300 blackout with 223/556 cases. It’s a ton of fun and there’s never been a shortage of 223 brass for free at the range
@@SAFE-AT-HOME-SPORTS. Oh my apologies I swear I have the hardest time picking up on humor on here!! That is really good to know I have had good results with it as well and I have yet to run into any issues with it in this cartridge but I also am not pushing the highest pressures I can through my guns. I would be curious to see if there is really any difference between lil' Gun and other powders like H110. --Jeremiah
Handloader TV I load everything mid range for the most part.
@@SAFE-AT-HOME-SPORTS. That is one thing that is a little lacking those mid range bullets 150ish grains or so but perhaps we can revisit this in the future. --Jeremiah
You need to have some IMR 4227 on that bench for subs. It is THE powder for subs.
That is a great powder for many cartridges, We have had great results as well in the .300 Blackout. We wanted to showcase more new powders for people it is so hard to fit everything in a single video perhaps we can revisit this cartridge in the future. Thank you for watching!
@@HandloaderTV I am certainly not trying to gripe about gift horses. I like your format, and I think the information you provide is good. That's hard for someone who clearly is a sponsored magazine format producer. I really do like 300 BO stuff though. It is easily the most fun cartridge for me. I don't see many people developing data for lightweight cast supers, ie 110-130 grain. Those make this a very fun and very economical plinking/ action shooting cartridge. IMO, people get so wrapped up in trying to compare it to other cartrigdes, they can't just see what it is on its own. Have a pistol AR with ~11cpr supers, with moderate recoil, and fairly flat trajectory inside 250, and it does everything you would want to do for most 3gun style play, even cheaper than 223. With subs, you can safely shoot steel up close and the recoil is less than blowback PCCs.
@@GunFunZS We appreciate that and appreciate the kind words and are glad to hear that you like the format. We are always wishing we could do more though! We strive to do our best to provide honest and trustworthy results that our viewers can trust. I agree though I personally love the .300 Blackout both of those rifles are mine which is why we were able to do a bolt action and an AR in the same video. It is a very economical and fun cartridge. They do get wrapped up in group size and cartridge comparisons. It does very well for what it was designed closer range engagements and versatility between supersonics and subsonics. The low recoil certainly makes it a fun plinking cartridge as well.
I have the old Nikon super/sub scope with a similar thougth to the reticle. It does tend to work, but the hold overs won't correspond exactly. I emailed them and it turns out they were using remington 125 supers and 220 SMK subs out of a 16" barrel in about 2013 to come up with their BDC.
Yeah very similar to the Leupold they were using 110 grain and 220 grain bullets for the BDC reticle. However you can tailor loads to use the reticle effectively by tuning your velocity using bullets with similar BC.
@@HandloaderTV It is a shame Nikon stopped doing rifle scopes. I think they could have done better with reticle design. Specifically making each feature a known value for quick glassing to measure distance. A lot of their BDCs account for drop, but they put little thought into windage, or intuitive measurement of objects.
@@GunFunZS I was thinking the exact same thing reading your comment! it is a shame. I agree they could've done better but they were still a nice budget option and I always had good luck with their scopes.
@@HandloaderTV I would gladly pick up another of the same scope off of ebay. It wants locking turrets, but a bit of paint pen will give you a clear visual if something got bumped.
@@GunFunZS Yeah they seem to be getting harder and harder to find sadly. I am not sure of anyone else currently making anything with a .300 blackout reticle. That's a great idea with the paint pen though.
Did you clean between each group? J.Q.
No we did not clean either rifle between groups.
Any luck or load recipe with Win 296 powder and 230 grain cast bullet?
I have tried cast bullets in both of these rifles and the Howa certainly shoots them better than the AR but as far as using those powders I have not had very much luck with cast bullets I have had decent results with Accurate 1680 and cast bullets. I usually powder coat my cast bullets for the blackout as well. It is something that I do want to more of in the future though. Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah
what do you think of the 7.62x39s?
It is a good cartridge, similar to the .300 Blackout, average case capacity is about 10 grains more than the .300 Blackout so you should be able to achieve higher velocities than the .300 Blackout. There is a lot less "refinement" with the 7.62x39 for lack of better wording. However a well made rifle with good components should be able to duplicate .300 Blackout accuracy. Overall I enjoy the cartridge and it works well for its intended purpose. However I personally prefer the .300 Blackout over the 7.62x39. Perhaps we will have to do a video on that cartridge in the future. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of actual information on the cartridge just a lot of internet lore.
@@HandloaderTV a new video, great idea
No music while shooting.
Some folks seem to like the music and others do not, most of our more recent videos do not feature the music. We are always looking to improve and the feedback is always appreciated! Thank you for watching! --Jeremiah
god job sir gdbless to your channel;
Thank you sir! God bless you as well! Thank you for watching.