SHOOTING SUBSONIC *300 blackout* CAST BULLETS ( 4th video )
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- 230 grain subsonic powder coated cast lead. 300 blackout 1035 fps. From my new build. function, feed, and target test success! No suppressor needed. using my IMR 4227 great powder for heavy bullets.......
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Appreciate all of the hard work thanks Elvis keep up the good fight 👍grate job on loading the 300 blackout
Thanks for the mention, brother. That's a great looking rifle you've got there. Like you mentioned in your last video, the long dwell time from that pistol gas system is gonna give you a really forgiving platform.
I'm watching your videos very closely and look forward to more! I think Thorsaxe mentioned my troubles with cast bullets. I end up with a stupid ring of lead in my chamber after 50-100 shots. It's been really frustrating for me. I know I'm doing something very wrong, since it happens in both my guns. I finally gave up and just started testing jacketed bullets for a while so I didn't throw my gun in the river out of frustration. I'm going to be switching back to cast bullets really soon so any tips and details you put in your videos about your process is appreciated! I am very new to casting so I spend a lot of time watching videos trying to pick up tips. I can't wait to try out your powder coating method where you heat up the bullets.
I have a feeling that a lot of my issue have to do with certain powders. I over do EVERYTHING, so instead of focusing on one powder I've tried a bunch and that's probably my mistake. If you continue to have luck with 4227 I will probably just use that on my next round of cast bullet testing. I am going to pick up that Lee mold as well. Thanks for sharing your experience!
hey there Johnny's Reloading Bench. .. you are definitely worth the mention, ,, you really worked hard on all that! thanks for all your hard work! sometimes you don't necessarily know what you're learning until later when you start connecting the dots! It did influence the build for me! The leading issue is a mystery? the 300 blk seems like a good caliber and cartridge for a reloader, and given the cost... cast lead and homemade brass! Great hearing from ya! and happy reloading my friend!
could the lead ring in the chamber be over gassing maybe?? just a thought. . you had me guessing. ..
I can't rule out anything but I don't think it's from over gassing. My 16" gun is carbine gas, so it is generally under gassed and shows the same problems. I'll get it figured out eventually! Bullet size, powder selection, crimp....so many variables to test.
+Johnny's Reloading Bench , I was thinking all of your load components looks great, so maybe it's a stretch to think the timing is off. ( with both barrels ) ? ; ) Idk I enjoy your informative videos! thanks Johnny's Reloading Bench!
Hey I watched all of your 300 blackout series and the one definite thing I noticed right away is your brass is too long/case length is over maximum length . The Hornady manual misprinted that data . Check vs other sources/manuals they have since corrected it . Another thing is you have a chamber casting that'll help as well. Especially when the cast boolits have to make a jump from chamber/forcing cone / rifling . Sharp edges may need taken care of but I'd cross some other things off first , Cast boolits need to be sized properly to ~ .002 over barrel diameter . Slug the barrel . Chamber castings may grow or shrink so that may not give good accurate #s .Proper fit is more important than hardness especially when powder coated .
A sincere thank you for all the great info you shared with fellow reloaders ! Hope ^ helps !
I know this is an OLDE video but just had to say, Thank you so much for all your effort's . Just fired 30 rounds of the Lee Missile with out a single hiccup. You saved me countless hours of frustration with your time and effort. Again THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU !!!!
Thanks Elvis. This saves me a lot of time zeroing in on what load will work best in my platform. My powder coat comes out a little spotty but I think it should be fine. Keep up the good work!
Another Great video Elvis! Really appreciate all your hard work and sharing your secrets to success. Look forward to your follow up videos. This 300 blackout is going to be a hot topic for all of us that cast. Thanks again!
hey, Rebecca Bonnifield. .. Your welcome, it's been fun! in my opinion so far, I think this 300blk is going to be a reloaders dream! so much we can do with it! let me know how your doing with your build. ...thanks again!
Forgot to ask before, Did you use sized or unsized ammo for that nice group at subsonic speed?
+Rebecca Bonnifield yhea I started sizing them as it seems to contribute to chambering properly. ..
Just got my first Lookie Loo at your Video, I'm Happy for you dude, I can see you are pleased by the Look in your face that you are Happy with what you have. I'm Like you, I have been around and Have stuck with some Powders because I have found that nothing beats it, some Have came close, However I'm not into spending Money that could be used for the stuff that works, Like Bulleseye Powder, It works in everything and it is cheap to shoot, In .45ACP loads Nothing beats it. I Like AA#7 and HS#6 for my 9mm loads,, I think you get what I mean. Anyway, have a good one and God Bless Elvis. Good shooting to ya. (Btw, Thanks for the Mention) Both You and Johnny reloading bench.. You are Good Dudes.
Hey Thorsaxe777.. yhea this thing worked out pretty good, I wanted to get this info to the many trying to shoot low cost 300 blackout with quality diy ammo. (subsonic) Its funny you mentioned johnny's reloading bench. I was influenced most by his information prior to my build.. It was nice hearing from him! thanks again thorsaxe777
Elvas, I’m building a 300 blackout in a 16 in. Where should I put the gas port ( pistol. or carbine ) and what size hole will work in both subs n super.
How do I stop a ring of lead/powder coat from scraping off when I seat my bullet?
now I got it!!!
great video, we learn from each other. keep the video coming.
hey there, Harleychromeman, Thanks for commenting, good to hear from ya! There's great content on these channels....Yours included! thanks for your contribution. ... happy reloading to ya!
Very nice gratz man my rifle has the carbine length gas system I'm glad u went w the pistol length good. Call
Hey Elvis I'm loving the vids sounds like your in the know more than I am on 300 blkout issues I was unaware that your a lefty and hillside in your vid looks an aweful lot like Ky hills are fr these parts
+Todd Newsome yhea it all came together nicely, now I'll work on supers! KY. hills and SC. hills look a lot alike I guess! thanks again Todd!
+elvis ammo nice I gta cpl friends that live in Greenville and greenwood u any where near that
+Todd Newsome I'm about 25 miles from greenville. ..
+elvis ammo nice Man U do any fishing at lake greenwood
Looking forward to chambering tips.
thanks qchemp420, I knew you were out there! stay tuned my friend! thanks for letting me know!
What's the hardest you can get hardcast lead without making it brittle?
Also have you experimented with adding something like powdered copper or powdered steel Into your lead castings?
Also have you thought about making AP ammo by drilling a hole into cast of fmj bullets and putting in a hardened steel penetrator and then filling the back with wax or lead?
Just got a 300 blackout and I just happen to have that special part on my ar15 so i guess I'll be using ot on the 300. Plan on shooting tje missile ive casted and pc about 1500 of them and are sided just need to get some 4227. Thanks brother. Ps where are the new vids ?
Awesome video man Thank you for the help SIR have you tried LIL -Gun powder ? I will try 4227 powder as soon as i can find it thanks again sir
Elvis only the good info will work. Johnny is good but he's from New Jersey. Keep the good info coming. As you said it's in the details .
Looks like you have perfect cycling here with your light load of IMR 4227. Did you need a special gas system or something?
Elvis, I ordered 6 different colors from your same vendor. I ordered my 300 bko molds, still waiting on the to arrive. I bought me another loadmaster press and have all my other material. I just installed my harber freight saw and the jig for cutting. I just started cutting my brass for my 300 bko. I have watched everyone of your video, I know you said in one of them about what length you trim your case. Can you let me know the length that your cutting the case down too? I am not worried about the final length after resizing the case, It would be greatly appreciated. I have been reloading for a long time, but you have me excited about this new 300 bko round for me. I ordered me a new AR coming in 2 weeks, can't wait to start powder coating. If anyone could answer this question on the cut length it would be yourself. I have 1000 rounds to cut. Thanks in advance
hey there Harleychromeman.... cant wait to see what colors you picked!! you got ya a loadmaster farm!! I trim my brass to 1.370 it might seem a little long but after the cut it seems to bring it down to some good brass. you may adjust it to your liking. it may depend on the cut straight ,rough,smooth,crooked..etc,etc... that how I like mine. i use the lee delux trimmer on my drill.. I like that as well .. regardless of what anyone says, med to high speed cutting works best.. low speed will give a rough cut! from my experience. happy trimming to ya,, guess I'll find out soon enough!!!!
Thank You, this will give me a starting point. You have already done all the hard work. You have taken the component all the way to shooting and showing the results. Thanks
hey Harleychromeman.. info sharing is where its at!!! Im a scientist like the rest of the casters and reloaders! : ) your welcome
I would like to see a non subsonic about a 150gr or smaller cast bullet work, HELP ME OUT
hey Steve Bilskie, man me too ! looking for a decent mold. that's really the bullet I'll be wanting shoot the most of! stay tuned. ..... I'm really liking the possibilities with this rifle ...
+elvis ammo NOE 311 150 spire point works very well for me powder coated . Super and sub plinkers.
+C Delo thanks for the info C Delo!
One of my 300 blackouts is a 16.5" Contender with a 1:12 twist (it was on sale at a good price),so I can't shoot the really heavy bullets. I was thinking that a 150-160 grain soft cast, gas checked bullet would a decent suppressed short range round. Thoughts?
why isn't there a convention for powder coating bullets? I powder coat and would love to see what the industry could come up with to make it easier.
hey drjmozingo.. you can't be more right! it's frustrating that there's not more information out there on the most popular method of coating our bullets in the industry! maybe the slow industry will catch up... ie. load data, special bullets, special powder... maybe one of these days through a collaborative effort us powder coaters can put something together. ..thanks for pointing that out!
hey Elvis, did you use harbor freight powder coat on your bullets, or are you using that Hi tech, or whatever that other stuff is. What was your OAL on that missile? if you were to shoot those at supersonic speeds would you change powder or change the charge? thanks for your Videos and time. You and FortuneCookie45LC always respond to questions.
Hey Matt Lord...I use Harbor freight or Eastwood. My oal for the 230 gr missiles is 2.230 To increase the velocity you can always max out the Imr 4227 and if thats not enough you can use LIL GUN. you might get a little more powder in there with the faster powder. Hope this helps!
elvis ammo how many grains of powder did you start with?
hey great videos , just got lee 230 grain mod, i am use cci primes, and IMR 4227 .
what is your OAL ? , i am see 2.260 min OAL in lee data!
Also , resize or not ?
What was the brinnell of your final projectile? Did you gas check your projectiles or just shoot them bare?
hey there Abrahamhdz..... I used the the same mix as my 223 , so it should have been around 23.bhn. off the top of my head. the bullet fit is (the) most important thing. with powder coated bullets ....No checks! Thanks for watching!!!!!!
Have you tried lil gun or h110 for subsonic loads? Is so what load data did you use? Thanks!
Do you happen to have the speed of those same bullets, with the same powder load, from your same rifle, but WITHOUT the powder coating?
Same speed with lube instead of powder coating? faster?
hey Valid Saberin...I have only shot the powdercoated bullet. with powdercoated bullets they will travel a little faster. more like a jacketed bullet. A lubed bullet will work fine but you may have to change your load a bit. ..
Thanks!
I cast bullets for big bore air guns with "only" around 100 foot pounds of energy.
Anything that can make the bullets go a bit faster and thus provide a flatter trajectory is worth looking into.
Powder coating should make a real difference as the soft lead bullets used in air guns are not lubed at all to start with.
I'll try it out. Looks like fun.
+Vahid Saberin Let me know how the air gun pellets work out for ya with the powder coat?
Due to the study increase in terrorism, by any chance do know how to make bigs blood tiped bullets ?
hey, jacob, just use the same bullet smear it in pigs blood and gettcha one. save the rest of the pig for the grave. .. : ) that's an instructional! hope I answered your question?
Russians have been known to grace the rifles used to defend the motherland. Maybe bring a box of cast or j-words to your church with you to see if any holiness spreads off and gives the bullets a spiritual buff.
So i take your pistol length gas system lets you shoot subsonic loads? and how fast can you push a 300aac?
hey there bodyxpolitic, so ya want me to do a video on top,speed now?? ; ) yhea I wanted one that would do 0 to 60 within 230 grains!!! really the subsonic is pretty cool but I personally like the 2000 fps ranges in the 150 ish grain bullets. .. but they do go up past 2500 fps in the 110 grain bullets
No suppressor needed? Sounds loud as shit to me buddy.
What is better 300 black out ar15 or 308 ar10?
hey Hans Pcguy. ... no real good answer. they are very different like a screwdriver and a wrench 308 is heavy, less rounds in a mag and has greater knock down power at distance. .. but the rifle can over heat quicker. you'll want a scope for distance on it. 300 aac blackout on the other hand is the opposite. closer range within 300 yards. they use a very great range of bullet weights from under 100 to about 250 grain bullets and operate very well with 8 to 16 inch barrels fps ranges between 900 to 2500 ..... I think both calibers are very good! just depends on if you have a screw or a bolt to deal with. . ; )
Monstrom handguard?
Poor goofy
hey way2go rule. I just feel awful about goofy...sorry you had see that; )