Spraying Stain? DOES IT WORK???
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ค. 2020
- Here is my method on using my HVLP Fuji Spray system (Q4 Platinum) to get 8 barn doors stained in under 30 minutes and that included a color change! I clocked myself spraying a door from start to finish in about 3 minutes. This method can get you not only fast turnover but also minimal use of product. It only took me around 3/4 of a cup of product (around 2 inches deep in the spray cup) to spray 6 doors and then I changed to a new color for the remaining 2 doors. If you have an HVLP, you should really give this a try!
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Spraying stain is probably one of the easiest methods for finishing. Not only is it fast but it’s efficient when it comes to product use. You’ll be able to save product while still getting the job done in record time.
What size tip is recommended?
Wow…good timing to find you. Just built a blanket chest that our grand children will fight over lol. Just bought a spray gun set up, and wanted to spray stain, but had not seen anyone spray stain before. You answered one of those tough questions for me, thank you. I’m going to spray stain the chest in the coming days.
I have NEVER enjoyed using stain. However, this looks so simple and now that I have a Fuji Spray Gun my attitude may have changed. I'll give it a try. Thanks for all the details about the gun settings. Awesome Video Drew!
You’re welcome Carl I’m glad it helps. Now go spray something. 🤣
Very cool...I like your idea with cleanup cups as well. I'm gonna order a couple more. I just bought a fuji myself and love it. I don't even know what I'm doing yet and getting amazing paint/finishes lol. Great vid bud. :)
Very helpful. I have only sprayed with a regular sprayer and paint before. The tips you gave I will use. Definitely a lot easier and faster than the old way. Prepping a kitchen now to restain all the cabinets
Amazing , today I stained a farm style bathroom sink stand . Took me forever , I’m definitely trying this!!
Thanks for the info Drew! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
Thank You Fred! Thanks for watching.
Thank you for showing me how to spray you make it easy to explain happy new year 🎊
excellent demo
FANTASTIC!!!!
Great work!
That’s awesome. I always have troubles with blotching when I stain. Never thought to use my sprayer. Thanks for the tips. Definitely will try this next time.
It does help a great deal. It may not eliminate it but it does help. Thank You!!!
@@rhwoodshop Hi, what about wood conditioner ?
Neat workshop. 👌
Great video. Thanks.
nice job. helped me quickly.
Spectacular. I’m sold. I’m buying a spray gun. Staining has been very time consuming and frustrating
Could you talk about spraying indoors, overspray, and how you handle filtration and any overspray getting on things? How risky is it? Would love to see a breakdown of your setup for that!
I have used foam rollers and paint tray with great results, gets it on fast enough and gives enough time to do a larger surface to come back and wipe it off without it drying.. spraying would be superior for the nook and cranny things, nice job !!
Yes it is great for that use for sure. Thank you for the comment
I always follow your show always smashing my like botton thanks for the info and content keep it up kaboooooooooooooom
Thank you so much.
Ok i gotta try spraying stain cause i have such a hard time hand applying. I have the Q5 so im sure it will be great
Great video! Did you apply lacquer over the stain to make them more durable? If so how long did you let them dry?
shared Maestro 💯👍👏👏
You rock buddy!
42 years ago I built my first house, when it came to staining the trim and the doors I did exactly that I used a Binks spray gun. It was fast an uniformed. 🤣🛫
Boom! That’s what I’m talking about! You go bud! I bet that came out awesome. Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for the video. I can't argue with choosing to spray stain for time saving purposes, but if you want to reduce blotching just use a pre-stain conditioner.
Well the object of spraying these doors was not to reduce blotching but just as a demonstration. The doors were meant to look rustic so a pre-stain conditioner would have defeated the purpose.
@@rhwoodshop I respect that but at 2:45 You mentioned it keeps blotching to a minimum but if a person wants to reduce blotching a much better way is to use pre-stain conditioner. Thanks.
danielszemborski You are correct and I thank you for pointing that out to people
The mixing mate gadget looked pretty cool, checked out your store, quart size price shows $25, but when I click that, it shows $32
Haha, no SketchUp tutorial for this episode! You're cutting corners already... ;>) Nice to see how efficient and good spraying stain can be.
Ha ha, now I have to design a spraygun. 🤣 thanks for the comment.
Hi Drew - summer greetings from NC. Great videos on the Fuji Spray - thanks for taking the time to do them! What’s the T-Shirt with Purple Circles? We have a print shop also and I’m curious.
nice video thanks
Hey, loved the video.... Can you let me know that stain mixer you used (link maybe in the description next time) I'm about to retire after 20 years in the military and have been looking into getting into this kind of stuff. Thanks!
Those doors look great! What species of wood and what stain for that 2nd color?
@Rock-n H Woodshop It looks like you use an oil based stain in this video, and I was wondering if the process would be the same for water-based stain and clear coat or polyurethane. I am just getting started in staining and thought using a spray gun would make things easier and more efficient. Do you have any suggestions for someone just starting out and what to buy to spray both oil-based and water-based stains and clear coats? The stain I use depends on the color im looking for.and the clear coat I usually use urethane or polyurethane. Everything I use is minwax brand.
Question...I have a stained cabinet that I would like to respray because it's nicked and scratched. Can I sand over the blemished and re-spray with the same color or do I need to completely remove all the old stain first?
Hey Drew, I came across your channel by accident, but I’m sticking around. Awesome! Do you have any tutorial videos of the Fuji system?
I’ve got the Fuji Spray Semi-PRO which I bought 2 years ago and only used once :( I didn’t even know you could hold the gun facing down :/
I’ve got a video that will be coming out in two weeks of how I clean the gun, break it down and reassemble it that should be quite useful for you
So glad you found the channel. Feel free to browse over 200 videos that I have in my collection
Can you or have you used your spray gun with a stain&poly mix? Also what do you use to clean out the sprayer?
Is the gravity feed or siphon better on the Fuji system ? I’m looking to spray interior doors and kitchen cabinets?
can we use paint+ primer( water based) in the spray gun? what size of the nozzel should we use. is there any reference table of manual to understand what nozzle to be used for which kind of application thickness.
Can u put a link to where u purchase thearge rolls of brown paper u use, really enjoy ur channel!!
I've done like & subs. I have a question for you,
Why you wipe the stain right after spraying?
Thank you for the very informative video! I am planning a "farm table" build with 2x6 or 2x10 from the box stores. It looks like doors you stained were sanded or "the good stuff". Should I sand first? I have a min-mite4. This might be my first project. Of course I'll work with some scraps and "see what happens".
It is best to completely sand your pieces before assembly. If you wait until you have assembled your product, there is always areas or sections that is extremely difficult or impossible to to effectively sand properly. I learned that the hard way...
When applying to wood planks on fence, would you wipe with towel also?
Great info. Do you use different guns for different products or just clean it well when switching?
I don’t have a second gun so yes I just clean it thoroughly before switching. Thanks for the comment!
What paint do you use for kitchen cabinets painting. Help please
I like the idea of spraying stain instead of applying it with a cloth. Looks like I may be using to much product. What do you do/recommend for ventilation and controlling the spray particles in the air?
I have a box fan propped in an open window with a cross breeze open door
Can this be used for slat ceilings? I’m killing myself trying the stain in between all those grooves.
Do you have to put prestain conditioner on wood beforehand with this method?
I love that paint mixer, what is it called, imma order one asap
Do you have any videos on your barn door builds? Always looking to consider different options.
Yes I do. I just recently finished one.
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Do you think the 3m PPS system is needed if you are spraying different angles etc etc.
How does this big box minwax compare to a Sherman Williams spray stain? Or a professional stain?
I suppose if one wants to match the darkness of the stain you could cut back the flow and carefully buildup to the darkness?
Exactly! I’ve done that before and it works very well
Is there a video on building the doors?
how long we need to wait before the second coat if we plan to get a darker shade
Great video! I just found your channel and you are answering a lot of questions I have about stains and lacquers. Maybe I missed it but how are you able to wipe the stain off so quickly after spraying? I always thought you were supposed to wait a few minutes as per the instructions. Thanks!
Welcome! The purpose of the waiting is to let the stain sink in but I can control the stain better this way.
@@rhwoodshop thank you for your reply! Does letting it sink in just help with durability or is there more to it than that?
No, stain has nothing to do with durability, only color. Some wood species require more set time due to the hardness factor of the wood itself. Since I am applying it to a very soft wood, it does not require a lot of set time in order to achieve the color.
It really depends on the type of wood that you were staining. Something very soft might require a conditioner so the stain can be absorbed more equally over the entire surface area. If not you will get a blotchy stained look. However, for people that are wanting a rustic look, blotching is not a problem for them
I need to stain dollhouse shingles....do u recommend spraying or dipping?
what is the difference between mineral spirit and thinner, i have used both did see any difference in finish. spirit is more expensive and finishes off quick.
can i ask what color of stain you used and is the doors a pine wood ?
I've never seen that "Mixer-Mate" thing but I have to have one.
Is there any need to thin wood stain for fences?
What top coat are you using? And is this oil based stain
Curious, my stain says extremely flammable. Is there any chance of any static electricity being produced with the spray gun?
I have NEVER had a static electrical charge from any finish I have ever sprayed. I think you’re safe. Good question
did you use a wood conditioner?
the first one was jacobean. what was the second stain?
I spray stain on cabinet doors for a living. Really easy once you get it down. I'm not gonna lie I would be fired if my doors came out looking like yours
🤣🤣🤣 that’s the beauty of my business. I don’t have a boss to fire me. In all honesty (since we are being honest) I actually confirm with my client how they want their stain to appear. I give them two physical options, one with conditioner and the other without. This particular client wanted without. I love the honesty though. Gave me a great laugh. Thanks for the comment.
That's is nice, but just on the first panel I see 3 areas that didn't get completely covered, granted it could be just the lighting, but it looks a little sloppy for a professional. It could be that I am a little more detail orientated in my old age??
Thank you for the video, great education learning
Is the stain oil based ?
I'm having trouble matching an existing Expresso stained Cabinet. Does adding extra coats of stain using your process result in a deeper expresso color?
If you were trying to go darker then adding the same of the existing color only works if you allow the stain to sit longer on the surface. Try waiting about 3 to 5 minutes before wiping off the excess. I usually take some existing scrap pieces and I spray them all with the same stain leaving it sit for different periods of time usually in one minute intervals. After wiping off the stain I take note as to which one is the closest
You might find that multiple coats will help too
Good info,have question would you shoot polyurethane (water based) through that gun?
Can I use an airbrush to apply stain?
Are you using a wiping stain...seems so.
What about using a non- wiping stain??
Do you not prep with wood condition
Do you spray your poly also
What’s the tip size on the gun? 1.7? 1.8?
Had to laugh when I saw the Headline! I've been spraying stain on Cabinets an Interior doors at the same Cabinet an Door Shop for 35+ years! You think spraying stain is a new thing or something? Hahahahaha!!
I know, I’ve been doing it since I started my full-time business to save on my turnaround time. People have been spraying decks with stain since time began I think 😂 . A lot of people just don’t think that you can spray stain because they think that spray guns are just for finish.
@@rhwoodshop we have 8 shades for our Oak cabinets an doors an natural of course. 4 wiping shades that we just spray on thick let sit for designated time, then wipe it off. Various shades for Birch, Alder, Pine, Hickory, Poplar. We have a Black Oak wipe off that turns the absorbent grain on Oak almost black then we wipe off. Looks crazy but people are starting to order Black Oak wipe off increasingly more an more.
What kind of thinner you put in the oil base to spray it?
@@carlosjuarez5212 mineral spirits, or turpentine fo oil base
What kind of compressor do you use to spray if that gun
It is a 4 stage turbine. Not an air compressor at all.
Excellent video. One question is it possible to spray wood finishing too
Hello
Did you not need to condition the wood beforehand with this method?
I’ve only had success with stain if I use wood conditioner and give it a light sanding before applying stain.
Looking for a process that can save some time.
Thank you
Well it depends on what you are wanting to see. These are a rustic style door so slight blotching is not going to be a big issue and alder stains a lot better than pine anyway. You’ll find that spring stain will save you tons of time versus applying it by hand. If you are not wanting to see blotching at all then I would condition it anyway but you could apply the conditioner with a spraygun too
Rock-n H Woodshop Thank you
Is it safe to stain a dark stain on a light stain front door?
Sure it will just darken it. However if that stain has finish on it then no
gravity verse siphon spray gun?
How about latex stain?
You missed a spot Drew! LOL ... JK
Oh crap
always sprayed my doors for 30 years ..I never used rub on ..u think a kitchen shop puts stain on with a rag or cloth...lol not a chance to slow...
mixer mate hahahha
Hmmm, I don’t think I’d use Fuji for staining. I’d use my cheap Graco.
Which Fuji spray system do you have model number
It’s a Q4
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I hate your voice, thankfully the subtitles and no volume helped me out. Great video thank you
Why wipe up the extra stain after you spray? It tells me you still sprayed it on too heavy, and you still ended up with blotches. Wouldn't it be better if you spray a very light, even coat, and then after the first coat has dried, spray a second light coat, if needed to get a darker color? Wouldn't that eliminate virtually all the blotches?
You go heavy on the spray so the wood can take it, then you wipe away all that didn’t soak in. And no, stain reactivates itself when it dries and that would look bad to do a light coat then another coat to darken it, that’s called “shading” there’s also “glazing” and that’s a whole nother thing the blotchiness you see is just how grain takes sometimes you can eliminate the blotchiness by sanding deeper before staining or conditioning the wood first if you notice after staining you have to sand the light spots and re-stain and you gotta feather it out
Math is stupid!
It can be 🤣
How about latex stain?