Hey Rey! Thanks for the great feedback, a 313 tip would work perfect for this application. We found the 310 to be a little more forgiving if you're not as fast! 👍
Hey Andy, thanks for the comment! We used a 10 litre (2.6 Gallon) tin of Cabot's AquaDeck and we sprayed one coat on roughly 40-50 metres of fence. I think we used just under half so the coverage would roughly be 1 gallon per 40 metres. Hope this helps!
Great video. Glad I found it as I've just bought a Graco to spray a fence soon. One question, my sprayer came with a green 310 tip with a little metal thing and a yellow rubber washer in the pack. The guard on the gun though already had a metal thing in it and a black rubber washer. Should I swap them out for the ones that came with the tip? Thanks from UK
Thanks for the feedback! No need to worry about the yellow seal, this is for hot solvents only. You will need to swap out the metal gasket and black seal however, as the Fine Finish Low Pressure (FFLP) tips have a smaller metal section than stadnard tips!
@@GOIndustrial That's great. Thanks so much for the quick reply. Your video has made the job a lot less daunting. Also, I have an extension for the gun that also comes with a guard and seals etc. Do I just remove the guard off the extension and put on the one with my tip off the gun? Hope that makes sense. Thanks again.
I really appreciate the information on spraying stain. I’m planning on spraying a new cedar play set for the grandkids. I’m hoping a coat of good sealer/stain will make it last longer.
Excellent video, very thorough. I have an X7 that I’ve used 2x so far. It’s my first sprayer and I’ll be spraying my fence soon so coming across this video was fortunate.
Thanks for the one tip mention… changed my spray tip and didnt even twig that there was another one seal that came with it! I’ve run a horizontal cedar fence … should I still spray up and down or left to right … reckon still up and down so I only have 1 wet edge that way. Thoughts?
Thanks guys!! For that sized project, as long as you're not spraying any roof membranes, either the below sprayers would be great. Graco ProX17: goind.com.au/collections/magnum-airless-sprayers/products/graco-magnum-prox17-stand-airless-paint-sprayer-17h203 Graco ProX19: goind.com.au/collections/magnum-airless-sprayers/products/graco-magnum-prox19-airless-paint-sprayer-17h210 If you wanted learn more about those, you can watch this video as well: th-cam.com/video/KBtyaLWEkek/w-d-xo.html Hope that helps!
Hi Dana, it really depends on how large the gaps are between your fence. With this fence there were no gaps and so only needed a spray shield at the top of the fence in some spots. If there are larger gaps between your fence, you may need to mask the neighbours side of the fence or add drop sheets to anything that might get sprayed between the gaps. Because it is airless there is minimal overspray and most of what you see in the air is just mist and can be washed off. With that said anything you aim at will get sprayed. It wont effect the neighbours side of the fence but if there is a bush on the other side and a big enough gap it will get sprayed. A simple drop sheet over the bush will prevent this. Thanks for your comment, hope this helps!
That was a really great job on the fence with minimum overspray. I guess it’s all in the tip and pressure settings. Side note though idk what safety procedures you have in your region but in USA a respirator with organic vapor filter anytime you’re spraying paint or stain regardless of water or oil base. That little dust mask isn’t sufficient for the atomized particles you mention in the video. Other than that good on you mate. Great job. Cheers
Thanks for the great comment! We were super happy with how this one came out. Definitely does when it comes to getting the best finish you can! Great spot and we love the safety concern! So here in Australia, it is basically the same - we have very strict regulations on the types of ventilation and filtration that you should be used when spraying. The mask in this video is actually a GP1 level filtration mask and is completely fine to be used when spraying any water-based paints. These are single-use though, so we do recommend purchasing a reusable respirator. Cheers!
Thanks for your comment! No sealer or clear coat, the Cabbots product only requires as many coats to the desired finish. This is Cabbot's Aquadeck, its a waterbased stain. You can definitely spray and oil based stain if you're wanting!
So when spraying stain. How should I adjust the pressure knob? Do you have it about halfway? Just trying to judge roughly where I should be so I don’t get that nice even pass like you did
Hey i was just wondering what i would need in terms of all things to stain a brick and mortar house would i need i certain level of Sprayer above the X19? Im looking at the X19 Hi boy combo'd with a Graco Cordless Ultra for cutting in on the interior so i can quickly wizz around cordlessly, as i also have Dewalt Tools and batteries. Just wondering what considerations there are with Staining brick?
Hi Jorge, the stain that we used in for this fence was water-based 😊 If you are spraying a solvent-based paint the process is the same, you just need to use the recommended thinner instead of water for flushing. Hope this helps!
I used a 211 on an x17 and it seemed to spray really fast to me. Later in the comments I saw a 310 recommendation? Seems that would be even faster or am I misunderstanding something? Thanks!!!
How much is a going rate for spraying stain with a sprayer like this per board ft. Or square ft.? I’m use to brushing and using a roller but looking at purchasing a graco sprayer. Thanks
Hey mate, thanks for your comment! To be completely honest we aren't sure what the going rate would be as we are not contractors ourselves. If I had to guess I would say that you would probably charge around the same amount, maybe a little bit more as the finish quality can be better on average. Where you are saving/making more money is in the time saved to complete your jobs. Spraying is roughly 4-8 times faster than brush and rolling and that's where the savings come in. Hope this helps!
Hey Z D, thanks for the comment. Good question! If you would like to keep the clean galvanized metal look, we'd just mask up the post ahead of time with kraft paper or drape plastic to protect it from the spray. If you were looking to paint the post, your best idea would be to use a specialised metal primer and metal topcoat, as standard paint is not designed to stick to that sort of surface. Hope that helps!
I always thought you were supposed to use a brush to help the stain get into the wood better after spraying the stain on with the sprayer? Or is it acceptable to just spray without any brush work afterwards?
Hi I want to start a small fence painting business, what airless sprayer would you recommend, just starting out, not a lot of money but I am willing to pay for a dependable sprayer that will last years? Any advice would be greatly appreciated, Thanks!
Hi, thanks for your comment! I would recommend going with something like the Graco 190 or 390. Both these units sit at the beginning of the professional contractor range and offer great value for money. Being in the contractor range they are super reliable and made to be a work horse - so as you get busier you don't have to worry if the unit can handle it. I'll put the links to both below so you can compare. Graco 190 goind.com.au/products/graco-airless-paint-spray-package-190-pc-express-240v-ac-17c384 Graco 390 goind.com.au/products/graco-airless-paint-spray-package-390-pc-express-17c386
@@GOIndustrial Just checking. I notice in some videos about treating fences they don't mention or show this which is important since that area gets the most abuse. I know this is about the sprayer, but was curious
Hey Vincente, you can definitely use the Rac X Tip guard (blue) with the FFLP310 tip! The Low Pressure tips actually work far better with the smaller pumps as you only require half the working pressure to atomise the paint! Hope that helps!
Hi Josh, thanks for your comment! The FFLP tips are great for pretty much all applications - For that particular product I would recommend using a FFLP312 for your smaller areas and a FFLP512 or 514 for your larger areas. Hope this helps!
Overspray isn't much of an issue, always be mindful however. With dropsheets and Graco Fine Finish Low Pressure Tips, we drastically minimised overspray when tackling the fence. With the FFLP308 tip as well, due to such a small orifice size, and sitting at the correct working pressure on the machine, we only needed very little pressure to effectively atomise the paint (resulting in far less overspray than a water-based acrylic in comparison). Hope this helps!
Hey FJ, thanks for the great comment! It really depends - most of the mist that you see in the air is just mist and can simply be washed off anything it settles on. The only time I would be concerned is if there is something on your neighbour's side that is directly in the spray path. So if their house sits really close to the fence or they have hedges and trees that sit just over the fence. For those times we use a spray shield - getting someone to hold it along the top of the fence as you spray along. This ensures that nothing behind the fence will be directly hit by paint or stain. Hope this helps!
Question: For a Graco tip, and Austrailian outdoor semi-transparent stain, I used a 211. at 2000psi. This did not go well. I feel like I should have dropped to 209 which is not rated for semi-transparent. Can I drop to 1000 psi with that 211 tip? Should I change the mesh type? Please let me know with the tip and psi. I had a brass regulator and 5000psi oil gauge at the gun. feel like we used way too much material. On the oil vs water based, I dont like spraying the oil and it's mess / cleanup issues. What do you suggest for a water product?
Hi Dave, thank you for your comment! Without knowing the exact product you are spraying, we cannot make a specific recommendation. However, for this project, we used a Graco FFLP308 tip as well as blue 100 mesh filters for the stain. The psi range can vary depending on a wide range of factors and you should test on cardboard, increasing the pressure slightly until you get the perfect fan pattern. We ran the sprayer at about 1400psi with the 308 tip. We much prefer water-based products as well so for this project we used Cabot's Aquadeck. The Cabot's Deck & Exterior Stain is a great option as well and it offers a wider range of colour options. Hope this helps, if you get stuck feel free to jump on our website and get in contact goind.com.au
@@GOIndustrial Cabot austailian timber oil Jaharah to be specific. The FFLp308 mentioned looks like they require a $30 tip holder too + $25 tip each, that’s a drag.
Hey Dave, if you are using the blue Graco tip guard then you will be able to use the FFLP, LP and LTX tips no problem. The product you are using is very similar to the ones I suggested except it is oil-based. I would recommend using the smaller 308 tip for this one. If you send me an email I can send you some more info and some pricing anthonyd@goind.com.au
The one man’s gun wasn’t even close to perpendicular to the surface for at least half of each stroke. It is impossible at the bottom due to the hose, but the top should be kept closer to perpendicular.
I would definitely stick to Graco's range of Rac X Fine Finish Low Pressure Tips (FFLP) - if you're painting exterior latex or acrylic paint, I'd recommend going with the FFLP414 spray tip; this will keep overspray down, and your fan wide enough to not take for ages. When in doubt regarding overspray, make sure your pressure is as low as possible on the machine without experiencing those lines in your spray fan. Secondly, have a second person hold a piece of cardboard or dropsheet on the opposite side of the fence as you spray. We were lucky on this project as the distance between houses was far enough to not worry about overspray. Hope this helps!
Absolutely - go for a FFLP410 or FFLP510 to reduce the total product output as the stain and sealer is far less viscous than an exterior acrylic :)@@KingdomKleenPW
I watched about 5 or 6 of these videos. This was the best explanation on everything. Have a little more confidence going into this new machine!
Hey, mate. Thanks for the comment, appreciate the kind words. All the best with your spraying! Let us know if you have any issues.
GREAT VIDEO! I've watched several vids on the same subject, for some reason... this one was the best and easiest to understand. Rock On!
Thanks a heap for watching! Appreciate it 🔥
This is a great video! LOTS of information here by a couple of professionals. Thank you!
Thanks for the great feedback, it is always really appreciated!
Very good job, I normally use 313 tip which is perfect for me. Thanks for uploading the video, I've learned something. 👍👍
Hey Rey! Thanks for the great feedback, a 313 tip would work perfect for this application. We found the 310 to be a little more forgiving if you're not as fast! 👍
Thanks for the great video. I will use your advice for my fence.
Just outstanding job !
Thanks Gary!
Outstanding video! For the results you achieved, how much coverage did you get per gallon of product?
Hey Andy, thanks for the comment! We used a 10 litre (2.6 Gallon) tin of Cabot's AquaDeck and we sprayed one coat on roughly 40-50 metres of fence. I think we used just under half so the coverage would roughly be 1 gallon per 40 metres.
Hope this helps!
Great video. Glad I found it as I've just bought a Graco to spray a fence soon. One question, my sprayer came with a green 310 tip with a little metal thing and a yellow rubber washer in the pack. The guard on the gun though already had a metal thing in it and a black rubber washer. Should I swap them out for the ones that came with the tip? Thanks from UK
Thanks for the feedback! No need to worry about the yellow seal, this is for hot solvents only. You will need to swap out the metal gasket and black seal however, as the Fine Finish Low Pressure (FFLP) tips have a smaller metal section than stadnard tips!
@@GOIndustrial That's great. Thanks so much for the quick reply. Your video has made the job a lot less daunting. Also, I have an extension for the gun that also comes with a guard and seals etc. Do I just remove the guard off the extension and put on the one with my tip off the gun? Hope that makes sense. Thanks again.
I really appreciate the information on spraying stain. I’m planning on spraying a new cedar play set for the grandkids. I’m hoping a coat of good sealer/stain will make it last longer.
Thanks for watching John! Sounds like an awesome project, best of luck!
Excellent video, very thorough. I have an X7 that I’ve used 2x so far. It’s my first sprayer and I’ll be spraying my fence soon so coming across this video was fortunate.
Hey Justin, thanks for the comment. Glad we could help! Spraying is a good time, so just let us know if you run into any challenges.
Excellent video mate please keepus posted with educational videos
Thanks for the feedback! Definitely will do :)
Thanks for the one tip mention… changed my spray tip and didnt even twig that there was another one seal that came with it! I’ve run a horizontal cedar fence … should I still spray up and down or left to right … reckon still up and down so I only have 1 wet edge that way. Thoughts?
I've done horizontal but I walk the whole length back and forth.
Thanks for the information.
Thanks for the comment! Hope it helped.
Great content very educational
Thanks for the great feedback Ric, glad the video helped! 🙌
I have to agree with others here, this was fantastic!! A great tutorial. Thanks for the hard work !!!
Thanks for your feedback, really appreciate it!
new subscriber here!! did learn a lot from your advice, I do prefer oil base and also why not using a wand?
Great video guys! In your opinion, which track sprayer would be suitable for several rooms, exterior and interior walls?????
Thanks guys!! For that sized project, as long as you're not spraying any roof membranes, either the below sprayers would be great.
Graco ProX17:
goind.com.au/collections/magnum-airless-sprayers/products/graco-magnum-prox17-stand-airless-paint-sprayer-17h203
Graco ProX19:
goind.com.au/collections/magnum-airless-sprayers/products/graco-magnum-prox19-airless-paint-sprayer-17h210
If you wanted learn more about those, you can watch this video as well:
th-cam.com/video/KBtyaLWEkek/w-d-xo.html
Hope that helps!
How do you prevent painting the neighbors fence? Especially between the slats vertically. Thanks
Hi Dana, it really depends on how large the gaps are between your fence. With this fence there were no gaps and so only needed a spray shield at the top of the fence in some spots. If there are larger gaps between your fence, you may need to mask the neighbours side of the fence or add drop sheets to anything that might get sprayed between the gaps.
Because it is airless there is minimal overspray and most of what you see in the air is just mist and can be washed off. With that said anything you aim at will get sprayed. It wont effect the neighbours side of the fence but if there is a bush on the other side and a big enough gap it will get sprayed. A simple drop sheet over the bush will prevent this.
Thanks for your comment, hope this helps!
Is it not necessary to have a 2nd guy follow and brush in the the stain for better adhesion/crevices?
That was a really great job on the fence with minimum overspray. I guess it’s all in the tip and pressure settings.
Side note though idk what safety procedures you have in your region but in USA a respirator with organic vapor filter anytime you’re spraying paint or stain regardless of water or oil base. That little dust mask isn’t sufficient for the atomized particles you mention in the video. Other than that good on you mate. Great job. Cheers
Thanks for the great comment! We were super happy with how this one came out. Definitely does when it comes to getting the best finish you can!
Great spot and we love the safety concern! So here in Australia, it is basically the same - we have very strict regulations on the types of ventilation and filtration that you should be used when spraying. The mask in this video is actually a GP1 level filtration mask and is completely fine to be used when spraying any water-based paints. These are single-use though, so we do recommend purchasing a reusable respirator.
Cheers!
looks amazing, after staining do you apply some kind of sealer or clear coat. or that was it? and which oil base stain it's possible to spray ...
Thanks for your comment! No sealer or clear coat, the Cabbots product only requires as many coats to the desired finish. This is Cabbot's Aquadeck, its a waterbased stain. You can definitely spray and oil based stain if you're wanting!
So when spraying stain. How should I adjust the pressure knob? Do you have it about halfway? Just trying to judge roughly where I should be so I don’t get that nice even pass like you did
What is the reason for taking the tip off to prime the line?
Great video👏🏻👍🏻
Thanks Gil!! 🤙🏼
Many videos I’ve watched emphasize the need to backbrush when using a sprayer. Do you find this unnecessary?
Hey i was just wondering what i would need in terms of all things to stain a brick and mortar house would i need i certain level of Sprayer above the X19?
Im looking at the X19 Hi boy combo'd with a Graco Cordless Ultra for cutting in on the interior so i can quickly wizz around cordlessly, as i also have Dewalt Tools and batteries.
Just wondering what considerations there are with Staining brick?
Hi Dave, the clean process for the graco airless machine is the same that you use for water base paint?
Hi Jorge, the stain that we used in for this fence was water-based 😊 If you are spraying a solvent-based paint the process is the same, you just need to use the recommended thinner instead of water for flushing.
Hope this helps!
I used a 211 on an x17 and it seemed to spray really fast to me. Later in the comments I saw a 310 recommendation? Seems that would be even faster or am I misunderstanding something? Thanks!!!
How much is a going rate for spraying stain with a sprayer like this per board ft. Or square ft.? I’m use to brushing and using a roller but looking at purchasing a graco sprayer. Thanks
Hey mate, thanks for your comment! To be completely honest we aren't sure what the going rate would be as we are not contractors ourselves. If I had to guess I would say that you would probably charge around the same amount, maybe a little bit more as the finish quality can be better on average. Where you are saving/making more money is in the time saved to complete your jobs. Spraying is roughly 4-8 times faster than brush and rolling and that's where the savings come in.
Hope this helps!
How do you work around galvanized metal posts?
Hey Z D, thanks for the comment. Good question! If you would like to keep the clean galvanized metal look, we'd just mask up the post ahead of time with kraft paper or drape plastic to protect it from the spray. If you were looking to paint the post, your best idea would be to use a specialised metal primer and metal topcoat, as standard paint is not designed to stick to that sort of surface. Hope that helps!
I always thought you were supposed to use a brush to help the stain get into the wood better after spraying the stain on with the sprayer? Or is it acceptable to just spray without any brush work afterwards?
No you have to back brush to push it into grooves. Unless it's a really smooth fence it won't bond well.
Yes you should back brush at very least the 1st coat
Back brush with long handle stain brush.
How much SQFT does a typical 1 gallon of stain cover with spraying?
What brand is the airsprayer?
Hey there, the brand of this airless spray gun is Graco and the model is the Magnum ProX19
Hi
I want to start a small fence painting business, what airless sprayer would you recommend, just starting out, not a lot of money but I am willing to pay for a dependable sprayer that will last years? Any advice would be greatly appreciated, Thanks!
Hi, thanks for your comment! I would recommend going with something like the Graco 190 or 390. Both these units sit at the beginning of the professional contractor range and offer great value for money. Being in the contractor range they are super reliable and made to be a work horse - so as you get busier you don't have to worry if the unit can handle it. I'll put the links to both below so you can compare.
Graco 190
goind.com.au/products/graco-airless-paint-spray-package-190-pc-express-240v-ac-17c384
Graco 390
goind.com.au/products/graco-airless-paint-spray-package-390-pc-express-17c386
@@GOIndustrial Thank you for that info, I will be in contact soon.
I recommend A titan 440. I bought a new one for 700 on facebook. They sell for under 700 used and 900 new
Did you spray the top of the fence?
Surely did! :)
@@GOIndustrial Just checking. I notice in some videos about treating fences they don't mention or show this which is important since that area gets the most abuse. I know this is about the sprayer, but was curious
I have a graco magnum x5 and was given a Rac X tip guard and an FFLP 310 can I use those to spray solid stain on a fence?
Hey Vincente, you can definitely use the Rac X Tip guard (blue) with the FFLP310 tip! The Low Pressure tips actually work far better with the smaller pumps as you only require half the working pressure to atomise the paint! Hope that helps!
Using woodscapes semitransparent water based stain. On graco 395 would you recommend FFLP tip?
Hi Josh, thanks for your comment! The FFLP tips are great for pretty much all applications - For that particular product I would recommend using a FFLP312 for your smaller areas and a FFLP512 or 514 for your larger areas.
Hope this helps!
Is stain overspray a issue with neighbors homes next by?
Overspray isn't much of an issue, always be mindful however. With dropsheets and Graco Fine Finish Low Pressure Tips, we drastically minimised overspray when tackling the fence. With the FFLP308 tip as well, due to such a small orifice size, and sitting at the correct working pressure on the machine, we only needed very little pressure to effectively atomise the paint (resulting in far less overspray than a water-based acrylic in comparison). Hope this helps!
Back roll your work!
You need a tip extension. your making my back hurt! :)
Hi Doug,
Thanks for the feedback! We meant to bring one but left it at workshop 🤦♂️ Safe to say our backs were pretty sore the next day 😂
The thighs will surely burn. Mine always do.
Looks good though.
Thanks Doug!
Wish my sprayer was a Graco...
It's never to late to make the switch! 🙌🏼😂
How concerned should you be of all the overspray going out to your neighbour's???
Hey FJ, thanks for the great comment! It really depends - most of the mist that you see in the air is just mist and can simply be washed off anything it settles on. The only time I would be concerned is if there is something on your neighbour's side that is directly in the spray path. So if their house sits really close to the fence or they have hedges and trees that sit just over the fence.
For those times we use a spray shield - getting someone to hold it along the top of the fence as you spray along. This ensures that nothing behind the fence will be directly hit by paint or stain.
Hope this helps!
An you use graco 390pc cordless it airless
Question: For a Graco tip, and Austrailian outdoor semi-transparent stain, I used a 211. at 2000psi. This did not go well. I feel like I should have dropped to 209 which is not rated for semi-transparent. Can I drop to 1000 psi with that 211 tip? Should I change the mesh type? Please let me know with the tip and psi. I had a brass regulator and 5000psi oil gauge at the gun. feel like we used way too much material. On the oil vs water based, I dont like spraying the oil and it's mess / cleanup issues. What do you suggest for a water product?
Hi Dave, thank you for your comment! Without knowing the exact product you are spraying, we cannot make a specific recommendation. However, for this project, we used a Graco FFLP308 tip as well as blue 100 mesh filters for the stain. The psi range can vary depending on a wide range of factors and you should test on cardboard, increasing the pressure slightly until you get the perfect fan pattern. We ran the sprayer at about 1400psi with the 308 tip.
We much prefer water-based products as well so for this project we used Cabot's Aquadeck. The Cabot's Deck & Exterior Stain is a great option as well and it offers a wider range of colour options.
Hope this helps, if you get stuck feel free to jump on our website and get in contact goind.com.au
@@GOIndustrial Cabot austailian timber oil Jaharah to be specific. The FFLp308 mentioned looks like they require a $30 tip holder too + $25 tip each, that’s a drag.
Hey Dave, if you are using the blue Graco tip guard then you will be able to use the FFLP, LP and LTX tips no problem. The product you are using is very similar to the ones I suggested except it is oil-based. I would recommend using the smaller 308 tip for this one. If you send me an email I can send you some more info and some pricing anthonyd@goind.com.au
@@GOIndustrial I just sent you an email. Thank you.
The one man’s gun wasn’t even close to perpendicular to the surface for at least half of each stroke. It is impossible at the bottom due to the hose, but the top should be kept closer to perpendicular.
What stain is that
Answered at 1:20
Should we be concerned with the overspray at the top of the picke3t going over the neighbors side and getting on their stuff? I'm buying a 515 tip
I would definitely stick to Graco's range of Rac X Fine Finish Low Pressure Tips (FFLP) - if you're painting exterior latex or acrylic paint, I'd recommend going with the FFLP414 spray tip; this will keep overspray down, and your fan wide enough to not take for ages. When in doubt regarding overspray, make sure your pressure is as low as possible on the machine without experiencing those lines in your spray fan. Secondly, have a second person hold a piece of cardboard or dropsheet on the opposite side of the fence as you spray. We were lucky on this project as the distance between houses was far enough to not worry about overspray.
Hope this helps!
@@GOIndustrial I'm spraying oil based stain and sealer. Does that change the tip recommendation?
Absolutely - go for a FFLP410 or FFLP510 to reduce the total product output as the stain and sealer is far less viscous than an exterior acrylic :)@@KingdomKleenPW
@@GOIndustrial Thanks bro!!! I ordered the 410. I've never used these tips before. Do I need to expect that I will have to spray slower?