Dude! What a great video! Not a dull moment! Very educational! Im a professional (commercial) painter taper, niche processes like this really can give a guy an edge !
Brilliant tutorial. I’m thinking I can tackle lacquer spraying now. I’ve wanted to learn for many years. You’re lesson makes it seem less complex than I originally thought. Thanks for being thorough. Plus, great tip for keeping sprayer tip clear. Liz McLaughlin, Minnesota
Solid video man. I’m a metal worker mainly, I shoot permalac mainly. I got some Sherwood precat yesterday for a small wood job this week. You covered it all man. You clearly know your stuff. The little tips and tricks. It’s like you have done EVERYTHING wrong that I’ve done. The tip about shooting straight retarder is brilliant. I’ve never tried that. The tip about cleaning the tip between coats is something I do when it’s warm outside. Loved hearing somebody else that knows it well. Cheers
Well thank you very much that means a lot coming from a veteran of painting like yourself. There are still some points I wish I would’ve remembered to touch on but there will be a follow up video on this because there is a project that I need to address so there will still be some lessons to learn
One of the better videos I have seen out there on applying lacquer finishes. Clear and concise. Re: Blushing from trapped moisture. I have found that a heat gun on low setting, or a standard hair dryer works well to conquer blushing.
Thank you for posting this very informative clip. It's been really helpful and educational (nice, clear instructions and tips) for me to watch as I'm a complete newbie/hobbyist with regards to spray painting and this has assisted me in my preferred choice of product (from so many options) and how I'll be able to move on from this point. Great job. Cheers
This video answered EVERY one of the questions I had regarding spraying lacquer. Now I know exact how I'm going to paint my cabinets, and now furniture from now on. We ALL truly appreciate this video. Thank you so so much! BOOM! 💥
Hi Drew! Nice to see you back! No need to apologize about being away for so long. I think I speak for everyone when I say that the quality of a video is more important than the quantity and you hit this one out of the park. I’ve been trying to do some research on pre-cat and the information available on the web is very difficult to understand. You explain it in a way that I finally get it. Thank you!!
@@rhwoodshop I think it was at the 10:50 mark, or thereabouts. I actually just got a kick out of hearing the word "behoove" in a sentence! Thought I'd try to be witty but may have come out that I was being a smarty-pants. Didn't mean it that way; I enjoyed the video very much. Good info and good delivery. Just subscribed. Thanks!
really nicely done - you slob me on precat lacquer - new to wood working and have tried spray on poly which i found kind of hard to work with - and - if i made a mistake i couldn't repair it for hours and hours
What do you do if they want a high gloss, 50 sheen or above? Do you ever have to redo cabinets, that is, you have to spray the casings inside of a house? If not, you could speculate. I have that same gun, loved how you cleaned it so good.
This video was /is great It answered a lot of the questions I had about spraying lacquer that I haven't been able to get answered, like how to care for your gun between coats, and is a sanding sealer necessary (some say its not), thinning ratios etc very well done. Time to get my FUJI sprayer out of the storage box and put it to use.
Very informative video I am building an outside pavilion and am installing tongue and groove pine on the vaulted ceiling. I am going to follow your steps. Might be overkill for this ceiling, but one that will be easier to clean and seal. Thoughts ????
@@rhwoodshop awesome man... loved the first video.. looking forward to the next one with some lessons learned. BTW I hope it'll come before I do my first attempt at spraying precat laquer.
Thanks for the inspiration here in the Caribbean well have the lacquer that comes with the caterlist ,I do use sanding sealer first but now after looking at your video I am gonna start doing three coats
Make sure that if you use a pre-cat lacquer that you use a pre-cat or a vinyl sealer. This will provide you with a premium water resistant barrier under your coats of lacquer. If you use a standard sealer combined with a pre-cat lacquer then you will experience microfractures and you’re finish that will result in blushing when it comes in contact with water.
Hello Drew, I just wanted to make sure I heard you right about adding Lacquer Thinner in with your Pre Cat Lacquer when spraying, is this true. Love to watch your videos.
I’d like to know at what what pressure you spray. I’m using a 10 gallon air tank and I’m not getting the volume of material through the gun that I think I need. Yes, I have made adjustments to both air flow and and material settings on the spray gun.
Great video, I have been spraying Sherwin Williams Lacquer for years, I never tried the pre-cat, My question is can you spray a couple coats of regular Lacquer and then spray the last coat with the pre-cat? Thanks for the great info!!
So that cloudiness is caused from humidity! That explains a lot I thought I got a bad can of lacquer. Not used to this much humidity as we have here in the south. Thanks Drew learned a bunch!
Thanks for the video! I'm using mostly spray cans on small projects. I get a lot of blushing since the lacquer dries super fast. I saw that you spray very close to the piece, you do that because you want the piece to remain wet? I wait 45 min to an hour and a half and then spray another coat. I found it suits better in my condition. any spraying tips when spraying with spray cans? how to avoid blushing?
As usual for you, a well made and informative video. Too bad you have been off air so much. Sure miss them. Hope your financial picture has been clearing up for you so you can. Well done. BOOOM!
It’s not so much the financial picture that prevents me from doing this it’s mainly because my projects are very redundant and every time I film something I lose money because it requires double if not triple my time. Since all the projects that I do, like I said, are redundant, filming each one would get really old to everyone.
Great video Drew. I’ve been wondering what the difference was between lacquer and pre-cat lacquer. Your point of starting with sanding sealer to increase smoothness of the finish was interesting. I’d never heard anyone point that out before. I also liked your suggestion on where to start on a piece because I’ve seen many videos showing people who start in the middle of a piece and at the bottom.
Those are just tips that I have picked up the hard way when trying to learn how to spray lacquer properly. Everyone has their own way and this way seems to work best for me. Thank You!!!
Do you have more information on the pigmented lacquer that you mentioned at the end? I went to my Sherman-Williams in town and they said they do not have that product.
Hey Eric, it may also depend on your location and what the regulations allow. You may not be able to purchase a pigmented version. If you have a Benjamin Moore or Kelly Moore paints you can try there and see what they can offer.
GREAT VIDEO !!! I am making some wooden lockers and want to use Pre-cat laquer but have been advised to use Conversion varnish because according to some of my research...Precat cant take any type of moisture. decisions decisions smh
You're a pro! Have you ever considered using a continuos air respirator system that supplies fresh air, while spraying? I have one that uses a remote filtered blower with a 75' hose.
Hi Drew. Nice to see you back here with another video. I learned alot with this one on a area i don't know anything: Finishes !!! Thanks and keep up the good work !!
It certainly is a learning curve but once you figure it out and how it works for you in your area it is a nice bit of arsenal to have in your repertoire.
@@rhwoodshop I'll be waiting for a video on how you accomplish that. I used valspar latex paint orginally on the furniture but that paint did not last at all. I took every measure for prepping even sanding before every coat and letting it cure for one month before actually using and still a fail :( thank you bunches
Sometimes no amount of prep or application can take the place of the quality of paint you buy. I have found that paint from big box stores just does not hold up to abuse. That type of paint is good for walls. If you really want good quality paint to last on furniture then you should shop at Sherwin-Williams or Kelly Moore/Benjamin Moore. The type of paint you can get there is a much better grade. Hope that helps.
@@rhwoodshop I will do that. What the fastest way to remove latex paint from mdf? I dont want to just sand because it just gums up and sanding paper is not cheap if I have to replace so often.
I found that lacquer thinner breaks down latex paint to make it scrape-able. I haven’t used it to remove paint off of furniture before but I know it does break it down because I use it to remove latex paint from my sprayer.
I’ve had your video booked marked for a long time. Thanks for the info. I think I’m about ready to spray. Question…I am about to assemble some drawers using either birch or sanded plywood. They will have painted faces. Should I still consider using the sealer before the lacquer? I’m also glad to see you do this outdoors. I’ve done a couple of projects in my garage and I hate the cleanup and my wife doesn’t like not parking in the garage.
Thanks Drew for taking the time to make this video! It's everything I was hoping for, and more, in explaining how to apply pre-cat lacquer. I will use this video as a reference video, and will probably watch it a dozen times or so over the next few months. Thanks again for your easy to understand guide and explanation of your finishing technique Drew! Have a Great Day Buddy!
The process is the exact same except of using pre-cat lacquer I use a pigmented lacquer in between the sealer and the pre-cat. So my process would be sanding sealer then a pigmented lacquer of the color of your choosing times three coats then a coat of pre-cat lacquer maybe two if you so choose
Thanks for the response. So are you lightly sanding between paint coats? Also what about before you apply the pre-cat lacquer over your pigmented (paint color) sanding there??
Kris Carter Only if it requires it. Sanding my sealer is what gets me my super smooth finish that and proper application of spraying the lacquer. Keeping the gun at a respectable distance from the surface anywhere between four and 6 inches gets you a very smooth application of the lacquer. If you find your lacquer coats are not smooth then a light sanding can be performed. This is going to take practice. My first time doing this was not perfect but the more times you do it the better you will get. Do not get frustrated if your first attempt does not come out like mine did on the video.
@@rhwoodshop been really trying to research to see how restoration hardware and high end furniture makers get that really matte finish. It seems so thick
Thank you so much Kim. The doors are made from solid alder. So the backs that you see are several pieces paneled together and the frame is on the front side
Rock-n H Woodshop Greatly appreciated! I love your plans too; goona buy at least one. Please keep up with more videos: 2k poly, barn door making, even non-wood working topics, you'll be great tuber!
Thanks a lot Kim I appreciate that. I actually have some barn doors that I have to make here pretty quick which I will be shooting a video on. I appreciate your high vote of confidence in me. I’ve been doing TH-cam for about seven years. I had to lay off for a couple of years while I got my business off the ground but now I’m back doing weekly videos and I am on my way to 100,000 subs. Hopefully will get there before the end of the year.
Wow Drew! Thanks for that detailed in depth explanation of the process and products you use for finishing! Extremely well articulated too! 👍👊 ... I know this is a video I'll definitely reference myself and recommend to others who are looking to apply a finish!
Well, thanks a lot Fred I appreciate that wonderful comment. It’s nice to know that even though I’m out of practice on making videos, I’m still doing a good job.
Great instructional video. I just purchased an HVLP and can’t wait to start using lacquer instead of paint. Any suggestions for kitchen cabinets? Thank you and be healthy
Pre-catalyzed lacquer with a vinyl sealer or a pre-cat sealer would work great for kitchen cabinetry. It is not good to use over latex paint. So if you paint your cabinetry, it needs to be an oil base paint sprayed with pre-cat lacquer or a latex paint sprayed with cab acrylic clearcoat
Paulo Rigon You are quite welcome. I try and reply to just about every comment I get. The way I look at it is, people wouldn’t comment unless they wanted a reply of some kind. Even if it is something simple like a Thank You!!!
Years ago I refinished Heywood Wakefield furniture for a dealer. He taught me to use pre-catalized lacquer. We never used a sanding sealer, we wet sanded in between coats. I am getting back in to refinishing, and was prepared to back to that process til I watched your video. The furniture is all solid birch with blonde stains before lacquer. Do you think skipping sealer and wet sanding is valid? After the first coat of lacquer I think the stain down with Naptha and shade the pieces using a finish sprayer to even out the color, and make it look more opaque. Then I spray the coats of lacquer over the shading. Would starting out with sanding sealer speed up my process and give me the same final look?
Sure it’s a valid method because it’s worked for years for other people. In my opinion, I would much rather do the sealer even though it’s a step that some professionals would say is unnecessary. To be honest, I have never tried the wet sanding which I may try and do one time to see how I like it. If there’s one thing I can say, do what works for you and you’ll be golden.
Love the video. I just started a few months ago to stain, paint and finish at my shop. I didn’t hear you talking about pressure, tip size and amount of material, basically the gun set up for spraying. Can you help me with that?
Thank you for your video, as others pointed out, it’s very informative. Any chance you’d ever do a tutorial on pre-cat lacquer high-gloss finish? Hint.. hint.. I’m considering refinishing a black grand piano and I could use all the help I can get, thanks!
You make this look too easy. I was trying to implement your mix about a 8:1:1 trying not to go too thick, but I’m having a hard time getting it too lay down. Never done pre cat before, paint store through me a curve this round, but I keep getting dimples. Thin more? Give the gun some more liquid? I swear it’s about to run as much as it’s laying on now, but it seems to run less than most things and stick. Thank you it’s improved since using your retarder, but I’m also in New Orleans and the humidity is probably 90%. Thoughts and thanks!
Hey Drew loved video! i'm a Do=it yourself:and.. can I put a water based lacquer/ over some Oil alkyd Primer? or do I have to use a n Oil based lacquer? thx! LR NYC NY
Great video, lots of great information. Thank you. I did have a question about the Lacquer that you are using (Sher-Wood CAB-Acrylic Lacquer T75F18). You keep referring to it as a PreCat product. According to the Product Data Sheet (PDS) this is not PreCat. Based on my initial search the SherWood PreCat Dull Rubber is product Code T77F38. Also, for the Lacquer that you are using, the Sherwin Williams PDS says to use the Vinyl Sealer (T67F3) and not the Hi-Bild Lacquer EZ Sealer that you used which is meant for Nitrocellulose products. What am I missing?
You are correct, cab acrylic is not pre-cat lacquer. Whenever I did this video I used the wrong can for that particular shot. I tend to use cab acrylic on top of water base or acrylic enamel paint.
Hello I'm new to spraying and wondering if you use the same gun throughout the whole process? If so, do you have to clean it each step of the way or just power through and clean it only after the final coat? Thank you
You are correct, cab acrylic is not pre-cat lacquer. I accidentally use the wrong can whenever I did this particular video. I sprayed pre-cat but I just visualized the wrong can. Thank You!!!
Rock-n H Woodshop Thanks for the reply! Getting ready to spray lacquer for the first time outside of an aerosol can haha. I have a ton of hours into the cabinets I’m about to spray and trying to avoid every pitfall. Your video is super helpful.
NICE TUTORIAL BRO.... If I want to use pigmented lacquer or tinted lacquer, over oak cabinets with polyurethane finish, with primer should I use? and no matter what I have to apply clear lacquer for better protection? thx.
OK if you plan to use lacquer then your polyurethane finish must be removed completely. The reason why is the base for polyurethane is either oil or water and lacquer is a solvent-based and those two do not mix so your locker will not adhere. If it was me I would either make brand new doors and finish them the way you want or paint your doors with a latex enamel or acrylic enamel and then spray it with a clear cab acrylic. I hope I read your question correctly and I hope this helps.
Drew great Video I’m getting ready to do a live edge slab for a table top and was thinking of lacquer but wasn’t sure it would be a good finish for that would you recommend it or something else thanks and nice to see another video from you love your channel
A pre-cat lacquer would be perfect because it withstands a lot of abuse but it has to fully cure over the 28 day timeframe before it can be hard as nails like that.
Thanks a lot Barry I’m glad you liked it. I will note some thing, the pre-cat lacquer that was visualized at the beginning of the video was cab acrylic. I accidentally grabbed the wrong can but I did spray pre-cat lacquer on the doors. Also, if you use a pre-cat lacquer make sure that you use a pre-cat or vinyl sealer. Very important!!!
It all depends on how much you want to spend on one. When it comes to HVLP systems I would say you get what you pay for. Also it all depends on what kind of finish you intend to spray out of it. If you do a lot of latex painting then you can get away with having a less expensive version like a Wagner or a home right but if spraying high quality clear finishes such as lacquers or shellacs then I would recommend buying an Erlex a Fuji system. Unfortunately when it comes to this, quality comes with a price.
@@rhwoodshop thankyou for yourreply will continue researching Iam a painter by trade fanillar more with airless sprayers would like 2 buy anice HVLP unit thinking maybe fuji 4 or something
I need to refinish some wood parts from an old Rolls Royce. Should I use sanding sealer? What lacquer would you recommend? Can you provide a list of things to use? Thanks.
I would since the car may be subjected to moisture. Sealer will help block that out. Pre cat (aside from post cat) is the toughest you can use and should work nicely for the trim pieces but if you wanted to take it up a notch then use post cat.
Hi. I have question. I got this table. Its my fav. But look.., its so easy to scratch it:(.., I have it just for a month.., didnt have dinner on it yet. Just had some light stuff on it. I need to put some pre catalyzed liquor on it or something else to prevent it. Pls help. How I can send you pictures of the table?
Good video, thanks. I fully understood why you start at the top on a vertical surface to avoid over spray. However, To follow the same principle on flat surfaces shouldn't you start next to yourself and work away from you towards the opposite edge. In your method he gun is pointing towards the already sprayed surface.
Forgot to mention: Thank you for posting this superb video.
Dude! What a great video! Not a dull moment! Very educational! Im a professional (commercial) painter taper, niche processes like this really can give a guy an edge !
Of all the HVLP spray videos for lacquer, this is by far the best one. Thank you for posting this.
Brilliant tutorial. I’m thinking I can tackle lacquer spraying now. I’ve wanted to learn for many years. You’re lesson makes it seem less complex than I originally thought. Thanks for being thorough. Plus, great tip for keeping sprayer tip clear. Liz McLaughlin, Minnesota
Solid video man. I’m a metal worker mainly, I shoot permalac mainly. I got some Sherwood precat yesterday for a small wood job this week. You covered it all man. You clearly know your stuff. The little tips and tricks. It’s like you have done EVERYTHING wrong that I’ve done. The tip about shooting straight retarder is brilliant. I’ve never tried that. The tip about cleaning the tip between coats is something I do when it’s warm outside. Loved hearing somebody else that knows it well. Cheers
Also, have you ever heard of putting these precats on metal? I’m gonna have to try it
Just got my Fuji 5 platinum delivered, very excited to follow all your tips!! Thanks for sharing the valuable information!!
Question. This Fuji 5 platinum , will it spray lacquer and oil base products ?
@@mava1040 Yes, I sprayed lacquer with Q5 on my wooden projects!!
I am a 28 year professional painter and I must say this video was AAA plus very informative and well made. Thank you so much for your time and effort.
Well thank you very much that means a lot coming from a veteran of painting like yourself. There are still some points I wish I would’ve remembered to touch on but there will be a follow up video on this because there is a project that I need to address so there will still be some lessons to learn
One of the better videos I have seen out there on applying lacquer finishes. Clear and concise. Re: Blushing from trapped moisture. I have found that a heat gun on low setting, or a standard hair dryer works well to conquer blushing.
Very nice that is a good tip I might have to try.
Thank you for the information in this video. It was to the point and professionally delivered. One of the best videos on TH-cam period.
Thank you for posting this very informative clip. It's been really helpful and educational (nice, clear instructions and tips) for me to watch as I'm a complete newbie/hobbyist with regards to spray painting and this has assisted me in my preferred choice of product (from so many options) and how I'll be able to move on from this point. Great job. Cheers
I am building guitars and was wondering if this product would work for me??
Price is important as well.
Thank you!
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Youuuuu are awesome bro !!!!! Your extra information makes you unique!!!!!!!!
Today is my 1st day on furniture shop. I'll subscribe to your channel sir.
Welcome! Glad to have you! Enjoy the journey.
This video answered EVERY one of the questions I had regarding spraying lacquer. Now I know exact how I'm going to paint my cabinets, and now furniture from now on. We ALL truly appreciate this video. Thank you so so much! BOOM! 💥
Hi Drew! Nice to see you back! No need to apologize about being away for so long. I think I speak for everyone when I say that the quality of a video is more important than the quantity and you hit this one out of the park. I’ve been trying to do some research on pre-cat and the information available on the web is very difficult to understand. You explain it in a way that I finally get it. Thank you!!
Glad you like it! Appreciate the comment.
Awesome video. Thanks for the tips on blushing and getting imperfections out
I appreciate the details and very specific how to's of your video. Thank you!
That one tip behooved me. Thanks!
Which one was that
@@rhwoodshop I think it was at the 10:50 mark, or thereabouts. I actually just got a kick out of hearing the word "behoove" in a sentence! Thought I'd try to be witty but may have come out that I was being a smarty-pants. Didn't mean it that way; I enjoyed the video very much. Good info and good delivery. Just subscribed. Thanks!
Reid Abercrombie That’s funny, I actually forgot that I even said that word in the video. I liked it. No offense taken
I think it's awesome you put your whole gun in the solution to clean it. Seems reasonable as long as you lubricate it. Good video!
This was all awesome and informative video! Thanks for your efforts!
Great job explaining everything
Thank you, you may check out my most updated video on lacquer spraying because there’s a few lessons that I’ve learned since I made this one
Great video, I have referred to it a few times. Cheers from Canadian praires
I plan on doing an updated video on this because of some lessons that I have learned since this video. Keep your eye out for that
Thank You!!!
Do you not need to sand between coats of lacquer? I saw you sand after the sealer, but not between lacquer coats. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Glad to see you back missed your videos
Thank you Keith.
Very clear, easy to understand and thorough. Thanks for taking the time to make this great video, it's really appreciated. :-)
+Gwyn Roberts Thank You!!! So glad you liked it!
really nicely done - you slob me on precat lacquer - new to wood working and have tried spray on poly which i found kind of hard to work with - and - if i made a mistake i couldn't repair it for hours and hours
Nicely articulated video, awesome detail...……………………….a big thumbs UP!
What do you do if they want a high gloss, 50 sheen or above? Do you ever have to redo cabinets, that is, you have to spray the casings inside of a house? If not, you could speculate. I have that same gun, loved how you cleaned it so good.
What size tip do you use for sanding sealer
This video was /is great It answered a lot of the questions I had about spraying lacquer that I haven't been able to get answered, like how to care for your gun between coats, and is a sanding sealer necessary (some say its not), thinning ratios etc very well done. Time to get my FUJI sprayer out of the storage box and put it to use.
Very informative video
I am building an outside pavilion and am installing tongue and groove pine on the vaulted ceiling. I am going to follow your steps. Might be overkill for this ceiling, but one that will be easier to clean and seal. Thoughts ????
Thank you for this great video. What I thought I Knew about spraying was all wrong. I learned a lot. I tried your was and what a difference.
What a fantastic video. Thank you very much.. exactly what I was looking for. Spraying on a finish for wood.
I am working on a 2.0 video based off of the same premise but there is some lessons learned from when I first started spraying to now
@@rhwoodshop awesome man... loved the first video.. looking forward to the next one with some lessons learned. BTW I hope it'll come before I do my first attempt at spraying precat laquer.
Thanks for the inspiration here in the Caribbean well have the lacquer that comes with the caterlist ,I do use sanding sealer first but now after looking at your video I am gonna start doing three coats
Let me know how everything turns out when you do. Thanks a lot for the comment.
Did it today it's fantastic looks like it's straight from the store thanks alot and keep the builds coming ...
Fantastic video. Great job man.
Thank You!!!
Dude, great video!! This is exactly what i needed. Been researching lacquers to step up my game! Thanks!
Make sure that if you use a pre-cat lacquer that you use a pre-cat or a vinyl sealer. This will provide you with a premium water resistant barrier under your coats of lacquer. If you use a standard sealer combined with a pre-cat lacquer then you will experience microfractures and you’re finish that will result in blushing when it comes in contact with water.
Awesome video. I learned a ton!
FranklinWoodWorks Thank You!!! I’m glad!
Hello Drew, I just wanted to make sure I heard you right about adding Lacquer Thinner in with your Pre Cat Lacquer when spraying, is this true. Love to watch your videos.
Great info. I want to refinish my 15 year old kitchen cabinets. Do you need to apply sanding sealer prior to spraying the pre cat lacquer? Thanks
I’d like to know at what what pressure you spray. I’m using a 10 gallon air tank and I’m not getting the volume of material through the gun that I think I need. Yes, I have made adjustments to both air flow and and material settings on the spray gun.
Great video, I have been spraying Sherwin Williams Lacquer for years, I never tried the pre-cat, My question is can you spray a couple coats of regular Lacquer and then spray the last coat with the pre-cat? Thanks for the great info!!
This was one of your best videos yet. Like to see more on finishing. Like maybe a cabinet that was a color.
William Burkel not a bad idea
So that cloudiness is caused from humidity! That explains a lot I thought I got a bad can of lacquer. Not used to this much humidity as we have here in the south. Thanks Drew learned a bunch!
Glad it helped you understand your issue
Thanks for the video!
I'm using mostly spray cans on small projects. I get a lot of blushing since the lacquer dries super fast. I saw that you spray very close to the piece, you do that because you want the piece to remain wet?
I wait 45 min to an hour and a half and then spray another coat. I found it suits better in my condition.
any spraying tips when spraying with spray cans? how to avoid blushing?
Good info. I've just started spraying my own projects. Lacquer will come later, but it will come. Thanks
Thanks a lot I appreciate it. Good luck in the future with your lacquer spraying.
Great instructional video, straight to the point. I have always used conversion varnish, going to try this on my next project. Thanks
Right on brother! Glad to see another video
Thanks man.
Hopefully soon we will see another video from you Jeremy!
Great and informative video, and your work looks fantastic! Thanks!
As usual for you, a well made and informative video. Too bad you have been off air so much. Sure miss them. Hope your financial picture has been clearing up for you so you can. Well done. BOOOM!
It’s not so much the financial picture that prevents me from doing this it’s mainly because my projects are very redundant and every time I film something I lose money because it requires double if not triple my time. Since all the projects that I do, like I said, are redundant, filming each one would get really old to everyone.
Awesome video, great information. I have been looking to using more lacquer finishes.
Make sure to get a precat sealer if you use precat lacquers. Big problems arise if you do not.
Great video Drew. I’ve been wondering what the difference was between lacquer and pre-cat lacquer. Your point of starting with sanding sealer to increase smoothness of the finish was interesting. I’d never heard anyone point that out before. I also liked your suggestion on where to start on a piece because I’ve seen many videos showing people who start in the middle of a piece and at the bottom.
Those are just tips that I have picked up the hard way when trying to learn how to spray lacquer properly. Everyone has their own way and this way seems to work best for me. Thank You!!!
Do you have more information on the pigmented lacquer that you mentioned at the end? I went to my Sherman-Williams in town and they said they do not have that product.
Hey Eric, it may also depend on your location and what the regulations allow. You may not be able to purchase a pigmented version. If you have a Benjamin Moore or Kelly Moore paints you can try there and see what they can offer.
GREAT VIDEO !!! I am making some wooden lockers and want to use Pre-cat laquer but have been advised to use Conversion varnish because according to some of my research...Precat cant take any type of moisture. decisions decisions smh
Did he mix lack and water ? mixed up at 7:50
You're a pro! Have you ever considered using a continuos air respirator system that supplies fresh air, while spraying? I have one that uses a remote filtered blower with a 75' hose.
Hi Drew. Nice to see you back here with another video. I learned alot with this one on a area i don't know anything: Finishes !!!
Thanks and keep up the good work !!
It certainly is a learning curve but once you figure it out and how it works for you in your area it is a nice bit of arsenal to have in your repertoire.
Do you ever work with refinishing mdf furniture? Please if you could, please do. I really want paint my lil girls bedroom furniture.
Yes Cindy, I have.
@@rhwoodshop I'll be waiting for a video on how you accomplish that. I used valspar latex paint orginally on the furniture but that paint did not last at all. I took every measure for prepping even sanding before every coat and letting it cure for one month before actually using and still a fail :( thank you bunches
Sometimes no amount of prep or application can take the place of the quality of paint you buy. I have found that paint from big box stores just does not hold up to abuse. That type of paint is good for walls. If you really want good quality paint to last on furniture then you should shop at Sherwin-Williams or Kelly Moore/Benjamin Moore. The type of paint you can get there is a much better grade. Hope that helps.
@@rhwoodshop I will do that. What the fastest way to remove latex paint from mdf? I dont want to just sand because it just gums up and sanding paper is not cheap if I have to replace so often.
I found that lacquer thinner breaks down latex paint to make it scrape-able. I haven’t used it to remove paint off of furniture before but I know it does break it down because I use it to remove latex paint from my sprayer.
10:34 lovin the karaoke technique, reminds me of spring football practice
Thank you for the great information. I will be trying your method. Good seeing you again.
Joel Romero thank you Joel! Let me know how it goes.
I’ve had your video booked marked for a long time. Thanks for the info. I think I’m about ready to spray. Question…I am about to assemble some drawers using either birch or sanded plywood. They will have painted faces. Should I still consider using the sealer before the lacquer? I’m also glad to see you do this outdoors. I’ve done a couple of projects in my garage and I hate the cleanup and my wife doesn’t like not parking in the garage.
Thanks Drew for taking the time to make this video! It's everything I was hoping for, and more, in explaining how to apply pre-cat lacquer. I will use this video as a reference video, and will probably watch it a dozen times or so over the next few months. Thanks again for your easy to understand guide and explanation of your finishing technique Drew! Have a Great Day Buddy!
Bear Creek Woodworking so glad you liked it
Welcome back, amigo! Great video for your comeback. I will be using this technique in the near future. Thank You!!!
Frank Thornal awesome. Thank you very much.
Would love to see your process for painted. Planning a bunch of built ins in a new home.
The process is the exact same except of using pre-cat lacquer I use a pigmented lacquer in between the sealer and the pre-cat. So my process would be sanding sealer then a pigmented lacquer of the color of your choosing times three coats then a coat of pre-cat lacquer maybe two if you so choose
I’m just telling you this now because I may or may not have the time to do the video before you do your built-ins
Thanks for the response. So are you lightly sanding between paint coats? Also what about before you apply the pre-cat lacquer over your pigmented (paint color) sanding there??
Kris Carter Only if it requires it. Sanding my sealer is what gets me my super smooth finish that and proper application of spraying the lacquer. Keeping the gun at a respectable distance from the surface anywhere between four and 6 inches gets you a very smooth application of the lacquer. If you find your lacquer coats are not smooth then a light sanding can be performed. This is going to take practice. My first time doing this was not perfect but the more times you do it the better you will get. Do not get frustrated if your first attempt does not come out like mine did on the video.
@@rhwoodshop been really trying to research to see how restoration hardware and high end furniture makers get that really matte finish. It seems so thick
Awesome video. Your info is so helpful. I learn a lot. The doors look awesome. What kind of lumber do you use for thr back?
Thank you so much Kim. The doors are made from solid alder. So the backs that you see are several pieces paneled together and the frame is on the front side
Rock-n H Woodshop Greatly appreciated! I love your plans too; goona buy at least one. Please keep up with more videos: 2k poly, barn door making, even non-wood working topics, you'll be great tuber!
Thanks a lot Kim I appreciate that. I actually have some barn doors that I have to make here pretty quick which I will be shooting a video on. I appreciate your high vote of confidence in me. I’ve been doing TH-cam for about seven years. I had to lay off for a couple of years while I got my business off the ground but now I’m back doing weekly videos and I am on my way to 100,000 subs. Hopefully will get there before the end of the year.
Wow Drew! Thanks for that detailed in depth explanation of the process and products you use for finishing! Extremely well articulated too! 👍👊 ... I know this is a video I'll definitely reference myself and recommend to others who are looking to apply a finish!
Well, thanks a lot Fred I appreciate that wonderful comment. It’s nice to know that even though I’m out of practice on making videos, I’m still doing a good job.
Great instructional video. I just purchased an HVLP and can’t wait to start using lacquer instead of paint. Any suggestions for kitchen cabinets? Thank you and be healthy
Pre-catalyzed lacquer with a vinyl sealer or a pre-cat sealer would work great for kitchen cabinetry. It is not good to use over latex paint. So if you paint your cabinetry, it needs to be an oil base paint sprayed with pre-cat lacquer or a latex paint sprayed with cab acrylic clearcoat
Rock-n H Woodshop I truly appreciate your reply
Paulo Rigon You are quite welcome. I try and reply to just about every comment I get. The way I look at it is, people wouldn’t comment unless they wanted a reply of some kind. Even if it is something simple like a Thank You!!!
Very good Finishing video! Thx!
Do as I say, not as I do. Got it! All joking aside, nice job! Very informative vid!
Years ago I refinished Heywood Wakefield furniture for a dealer. He taught me to use pre-catalized lacquer. We never used a sanding sealer, we wet sanded in between coats. I am getting back in to refinishing, and was prepared to back to that process til I watched your video. The furniture is all solid birch with blonde stains before lacquer. Do you think skipping sealer and wet sanding is valid? After the first coat of lacquer I think the stain down with Naptha and shade the pieces using a finish sprayer to even out the color, and make it look more opaque. Then I spray the coats of lacquer over the shading. Would starting out with sanding sealer speed up my process and give me the same final look?
Sure it’s a valid method because it’s worked for years for other people. In my opinion, I would much rather do the sealer even though it’s a step that some professionals would say is unnecessary. To be honest, I have never tried the wet sanding which I may try and do one time to see how I like it. If there’s one thing I can say, do what works for you and you’ll be golden.
Love the video. I just started a few months ago to stain, paint and finish at my shop. I didn’t hear you talking about pressure, tip size and amount of material, basically the gun set up for spraying. Can you help me with that?
Dude! Excellent video.
Thank you for your video, as others pointed out, it’s very informative. Any chance you’d ever do a tutorial on pre-cat lacquer high-gloss finish? Hint.. hint.. I’m considering refinishing a black grand piano and I could use all the help I can get, thanks!
Same process with couple extra steps after final coat applied with polish, rub out and pumice and wet sand paper
Is their a matt finish lacquer woodworkers use? Also are these lacquers made from acrylic? New to this.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You make this look too easy. I was trying to implement your mix about a 8:1:1 trying not to go too thick, but I’m having a hard time getting it too lay down. Never done pre cat before, paint store through me a curve this round, but I keep getting dimples. Thin more? Give the gun some more liquid? I swear it’s about to run as much as it’s laying on now, but it seems to run less than most things and stick. Thank you it’s improved since using your retarder, but I’m also in New Orleans and the humidity is probably 90%. Thoughts and thanks!
Hey Drew loved video! i'm a Do=it yourself:and.. can I put a water based lacquer/ over some Oil alkyd Primer? or do I have to use a n Oil based lacquer? thx! LR NYC NY
Great video, lots of great information. Thank you. I did have a question about the Lacquer that you are using (Sher-Wood CAB-Acrylic Lacquer T75F18). You keep referring to it as a PreCat product. According to the Product Data Sheet (PDS) this is not PreCat. Based on my initial search the SherWood PreCat Dull Rubber is product Code T77F38. Also, for the Lacquer that you are using, the Sherwin Williams PDS says to use the Vinyl Sealer (T67F3) and not the Hi-Bild Lacquer EZ Sealer that you used which is meant for Nitrocellulose products. What am I missing?
You are correct, cab acrylic is not pre-cat lacquer. Whenever I did this video I used the wrong can for that particular shot. I tend to use cab acrylic on top of water base or acrylic enamel paint.
Is that sanding sealer and lacquer water based?
why not use a viscosity cup and stop watch for the mix ratio?
Nice video, which Fuji turbine model are you using?
Hello I'm new to spraying and wondering if you use the same gun throughout the whole process? If so, do you have to clean it each step of the way or just power through and clean it only after the final coat? Thank you
Is the sealer also catalyzed?
I’m confused because you were talking about pre-cat, but my Sherwin store told me that CAB Acrylic is not a pre-cat.
You are correct, cab acrylic is not pre-cat lacquer. I accidentally use the wrong can whenever I did this particular video. I sprayed pre-cat but I just visualized the wrong can. Thank You!!!
Rock-n H Woodshop Thanks for the reply! Getting ready to spray lacquer for the first time outside of an aerosol can haha. I have a ton of hours into the cabinets I’m about to spray and trying to avoid every pitfall. Your video is super helpful.
Did you spray this over oil based stain??
NICE TUTORIAL BRO....
If I want to use pigmented lacquer or tinted lacquer, over oak cabinets with polyurethane finish, with primer should I use? and no matter what I have to apply clear lacquer for better protection? thx.
OK if you plan to use lacquer then your polyurethane finish must be removed completely. The reason why is the base for polyurethane is either oil or water and lacquer is a solvent-based and those two do not mix so your locker will not adhere. If it was me I would either make brand new doors and finish them the way you want or paint your doors with a latex enamel or acrylic enamel and then spray it with a clear cab acrylic. I hope I read your question correctly and I hope this helps.
Drew great Video I’m getting ready to do a live edge slab for a table top and was thinking of lacquer but wasn’t sure it would be a good finish for that would you recommend it or something else thanks and nice to see another video from you love your channel
A pre-cat lacquer would be perfect because it withstands a lot of abuse but it has to fully cure over the 28 day timeframe before it can be hard as nails like that.
Rock-n H Woodshop also you mentioned the paint lacquer I was wondering can you get stains and dye the same way ??
Keith Young unfortunately no. They are a different solvents.
Rock-n H Woodshop thank you so much I appreciate it
Excellent video
Great video! Good info, will be following!
Thanks a lot Barry I’m glad you liked it. I will note some thing, the pre-cat lacquer that was visualized at the beginning of the video was cab acrylic. I accidentally grabbed the wrong can but I did spray pre-cat lacquer on the doors. Also, if you use a pre-cat lacquer make sure that you use a pre-cat or vinyl sealer. Very important!!!
I’m in the market for a gun setup. I am a hobbyist and have never had a successful time spraying anything. What gun and setup would you recommend.
Oh... by the way! Thanks for making a video. I miss watching them!!!!
Thanks Brian!
Great video thank you very much. Whats a good HVLP unit ?
It all depends on how much you want to spend on one. When it comes to HVLP systems I would say you get what you pay for. Also it all depends on what kind of finish you intend to spray out of it. If you do a lot of latex painting then you can get away with having a less expensive version like a Wagner or a home right but if spraying high quality clear finishes such as lacquers or shellacs then I would recommend buying an Erlex a Fuji system. Unfortunately when it comes to this, quality comes with a price.
@@rhwoodshop thankyou for yourreply will continue researching Iam a painter by trade fanillar more with airless sprayers would like 2 buy anice HVLP unit thinking maybe fuji 4 or something
The Fuji Q4 is what I use and it is a fantastic system
I need to refinish some wood parts from an old Rolls Royce. Should I use sanding sealer? What lacquer would you recommend? Can you provide a list of things to use? Thanks.
I would since the car may be subjected to moisture. Sealer will help block that out. Pre cat (aside from post cat) is the toughest you can use and should work nicely for the trim pieces but if you wanted to take it up a notch then use post cat.
Does all of this apply to white pre-cat lacquer (like doing kitchen cabinets)?
Yes it sprays no different however I would advise you watch my newest lacquer spray video for lessons learned.
Can't get Precat locally due to state law changes, is there a good alternative? I plan to use through at Fuji 2 stage hvlp. Thanks for the help.
Very nice! Can I painting another color? For example write?
I’m not quite sure what you’re asking. What do you mean can you paint another color?
I know that you use a turbine HVLP but do you have any suggestions for PSI settings if using a compressor HVLP?
Yep need a hvlp sprayer now
It’s a rabbit hole, be careful.
Rock-n H Woodshop I know I took a little break but now I’m getting back in full force
This is an HVLP sprayer. I’m not sure exactly what comment you are referring to but the video featured an HVLP sprayer.
Hi. I have question. I got this table. Its my fav. But look.., its so easy to scratch it:(.., I have it just for a month.., didnt have dinner on it yet. Just had some light stuff on it. I need to put some pre catalyzed liquor on it or something else to prevent it. Pls help. How I can send you pictures of the table?
Good video, thanks. I fully understood why you start at the top on a vertical surface to avoid over spray. However, To follow the same principle on flat surfaces shouldn't you start next to yourself and work away from you towards the opposite edge. In your method he gun is pointing towards the already sprayed surface.
Where can I get those stands you spray your doors on?