What is the ULTIMATE Knife? Probably not what you think...

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  • Designing the ultimate knife is tougher than you may think. In my opinion its the hardest part of knife making. Especially when you are designing a knife around a certain set of parameters, and those parameters contradict each other. Whats most important, light weight, edge retention, blade length, handle comfort, usability, toughness? The list goes on..
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    Hi, Im Alex, im a knife maker and TH-camr, based out of southern Pennsylvania and my youtube channel is Outdoors55. This channel started as an outdoor backpacking channel, but quickly grew into a knife/ knife making channel. Everything I do on my channel is family friendly. I primarily focus on knife / knife making videos but occasionally throw in something different. Thank you for watching!😀
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  • @Universal_Craftsman
    @Universal_Craftsman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    "200 g is too much, I have to cut that in half for backpacking."
    Me, probably 30 kg (60 lbs) overweight: Oh, I have a problem.

    • @boobrowsky
      @boobrowsky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes

    • @taitrunkl7086
      @taitrunkl7086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      109 is too much because we need 85 brugh who will notice that while carrying a whole backpack.

    • @Universal_Craftsman
      @Universal_Craftsman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@taitrunkl7086 I am not an expert, but at the military the Sargeant told us that in a long march you notice every gram, it was because one of us wore his big gold Diesel watch before going on a march, and he said if this would be a 40 km march his arm would probably fall off, but it just was a 10 km march so it wasn't that bad. The next thing is that everything too much sums up quickly, depending on what you do you have a lot of stuff on you, and if everything is even slightly too heavy it can sum up to a point where you strongly notice it after a while.

    • @taitrunkl7086
      @taitrunkl7086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Universal_Craftsman Ye but it's still a pair of socks weight we're talking about, I don't doubt that on a long march you should have the least amount of weight on you as possible, but paying another (over) $50 for lighter scales and other lighter steel when you literally already have a great knife just grams over your "limited wight" that was based on feeling not calculations or anything doesn't seem worth to me. I'm not saying he did anything wrong, I mean it's his youtube and his money and it's probably worth it to get 3 episodes out of 1 if he went with that knife, but for real life I don't think it's necessary, with that orange knife he'd be just fine.

    • @Universal_Craftsman
      @Universal_Craftsman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@taitrunkl7086 Your point makes sense off course.

  • @scottdunbar4898
    @scottdunbar4898 5 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    I do a ridiculous amount of hiking in the mountains of Western Maine and NH
    and the single most significant and noticeable weight change I've ever
    experienced was when I went to lighter......shoes. I still applaud your quest
    for a light durable fixed blade and I can't wait to see what you create.

    • @Trickydickysticky
      @Trickydickysticky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what shoes do you prefer? and how durable are they?
      i wear boots 24/7 and have always been happy with the protection, stability and durability. im genuinely curious as to what your experience has been.

    • @krknfmkr8919
      @krknfmkr8919 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I live in the Rocky's, I don't know about where you are but when I was in Missouri (Fort Leonard Wood) what they called mountains (Ozarks) we call foothills

    • @krknfmkr8919
      @krknfmkr8919 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Trickydickysticky I hear ya. 20+ years sheet metal worker, I wear Caterpillar steel toe boots every day.

    • @Trickydickysticky
      @Trickydickysticky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@krknfmkr8919 yeah, i started wearing boots fulltime when i was 14 on my first construction jobsite. never felt the need for anything different outside of football cleats.
      im 25 now and haven't skipped a day haha. still it makes sense that weight on your feet lilely drains more energy then weight on your back, bigger tires kill your fuel economy and such...
      i cant shake the idea that boots are the right place to "spend" the weight. people definately take their feet for granted.
      also, one of my favorite sayings is
      "a man should spend good money on 2 things, his boots and his bed. because if hes not in one hes in the other."

    • @ViezePoeperd
      @ViezePoeperd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There's a Dutch company called 'Haix', they make some of the best boots out there.

  • @strangeravenoutdoors4650
    @strangeravenoutdoors4650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    My knife is probably the last place I'd personally choose to save on weight. I want a knife I can chop down a tree with. But the video was interesting. One thing that came to mind to me was that you could probably save some weight by using flared tubing as oppose to loveless bolts. You'd still have a mechanical connection due to the flare, but it would be a lot less material than loveless bolts.

    • @beentheredonethat5908
      @beentheredonethat5908 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm a fan of monster knives and have literally hundreds of amazing big blades. With that Said, over the kast few years I've learned I can do 90 percent of the same work with smaller, easier to sharpen blades, that are much lighter. Now I carry a martinni as my edc , and i do have some moras, I think they are great smaller lighter blades, but the style and craftsmanship of the martinni from finnland wins my favorite knife award, well for lighter knives, I do love my bowies. I'm a big man, work in the woods and live in the mouatins , weight doesn't bother me while hiking, I'm always walking and carrying stuff lol, but my kids and wife don't have that same strength, my sons will, but not yet, so these knives are perfect for them, razor sharp, tough as hell for the size and they are great for craving when your bored or need something made quickly or for fun.

  • @ukwan
    @ukwan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I love my Mora Basic, it's my favourite knife regardless of cost, since I'm a UK hunter which is basically just field dressing rabbits, pigeons, squirrels etc, I don't need to baton or start fires etc. So it's literally perfect.

  • @onementality9781
    @onementality9781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I’ve advertised for Mora knives for years, I’m a barber and a customer told me he was skinning a bear next to a buddy and he said he had to sharpen his knife 3-4 times but his buddy never stopped skinning so my customer is a believer now! Lol Swedish metal is very good

    • @scottyj6226
      @scottyj6226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is Mora the same company that makes ice augers? Because thier auger blades are scary sharp.

    • @Arthurian.
      @Arthurian. ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@scottyj6226 that makes me wonder now since they are very far north and needing to drill in ice is not rare for them. And Mora makes more cutting tools than about everyone.

    • @BobSmith-kd6lq
      @BobSmith-kd6lq ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I have a Mora cheapo and it's a great knife and I dare say the best knife you can buy for the money. I paid $10 for mine.

    • @Danielson1818
      @Danielson1818 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@BobSmith-kd6lq I've searched for years. Have never found anything that competes with a Mora basic for the money. So now I collect them, and make customs for friends and customers.

    • @BobSmith-kd6lq
      @BobSmith-kd6lq ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Danielson1818 Nice

  • @Stuie444
    @Stuie444 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have been carrying the exact same knife for years - and I've had plenty of knife snobs make comment about it. The batoning is a legit drawback - but I have stopped doing that and begun making feather sticks instead. It works great for that, and I can even start fires with damp wood!

  • @TheArtofCraftsmanship
    @TheArtofCraftsmanship 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Man, I am super excited to see what comes of this project. I just finished my woodelore clone and the difference in weight to my previous backpacker is incredible. I can’t imagine a completely usable knife under 3oz. Good luck brother!

    • @Arthurian.
      @Arthurian. ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean .... Throughout the indigenous world over, the tribal people usually carry 3 blades of varying sizes. Their life is in nature all times and they almost always carry a small knife. The western ideology of knives is silly at best.

    • @jesuschristiskingandsavior461
      @jesuschristiskingandsavior461 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, I see this is from 3 years ago. Do you still have the knife. Did you sell it? How big was it? Do you have a video on your channel about making it? I looked, but couldn't find one

  • @dwaynemeroin3101
    @dwaynemeroin3101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    That Mora is awesome, I use them daily

    • @MatoNupai
      @MatoNupai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I carried the Mora companion for years when I lived in the pacific North West.

  • @GrottoGroveGroves
    @GrottoGroveGroves 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    personally, i'm not concerned with the weight of my knife. love that knife ! cool concept though, wish you success.

  • @Simplelittlelife
    @Simplelittlelife 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Great video man! Looking forward to seeing where you go with this 👍

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Seems I ventured down a rabbit hole... this is turning out to be complicated 😂 Thanks for watching my friend 👊

    • @arthurmernard5879
      @arthurmernard5879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OUTDOORS55 this is a pretty steezy vid thanks for sharing dude

  • @troystallard6895
    @troystallard6895 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I used to go backpacking with a small cast iron pan strapped to my backpack, and I caught a lot of grief from guys who would spend an incredible amount of money on freeze-dried foods and paper-thin, flimsy cookware, to save a few ounces of weight. But you'd be amazed how they lined up in the evenings to use my pan when I was done with it....

  • @doak4886
    @doak4886 5 ปีที่แล้ว +286

    Couldn’t you save the $50, give it to your buddy and have him carry your backbreaking knife for you? Problem solved. You have a nice knife to use, you’re 3.5 ounces lighter and not just a fraction of an ounce, and your buddy is richer and in better shape. I’m really good at problem solving.

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      My buddies are on to that😂

    • @garrycollins3415
      @garrycollins3415 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      He can't have his buddies carry his knife. This is a 'hold my beer' moment.

    • @steveprice9133
      @steveprice9133 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol!

    • @williamprendergast6510
      @williamprendergast6510 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@garrycollins3415 brilliant comments.Lol.

    • @ollie7070
      @ollie7070 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol taking off your jacket and leaving it would save more weight

  • @jacobsteel1142
    @jacobsteel1142 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The ultimate knife is always going to be a custom made knife to suit your particular needs :P

    • @fookyuunsa678
      @fookyuunsa678 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or a box of unopened moras

  • @MikeUman
    @MikeUman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Okay, you have my full attention. 😲
    This is something I've thought about before, so, can't wait for the next installment! 👍

    • @ssunfish
      @ssunfish 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here. Im already dreading the wait or missing it when it comes out

  • @71simonforrester
    @71simonforrester 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoyed this one - thanks for talking us through the design stage.

  • @benshamblin4407
    @benshamblin4407 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like this. Incredible attention to detail, copious amounts of knives, and you really know what you're talking about.

  • @calebg7682
    @calebg7682 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Happy to hear of your plan to go much thinner! I just bought a knife from a small, up-and-coming custom maker. It's 0.072'' thick CruWear with a scandi grind. Even thinner than a Mora basic. I haven't used it much yet, but I'm really excited to try it out. Seems perfect for my normal hiking/backpacking use.
    I hear excellent things about the toughness of CPM 1V. Maybe look into that?

  • @The.Alabama.Woodsman
    @The.Alabama.Woodsman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have a chest full of knives. The MORA #1 was my EDC for a few years before I went to a multi tool. Shape as hell, cheap and worth it. I still use that MORA at least once a day.

  • @caballero1152
    @caballero1152 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always doing great stuff man. Love your content! Keep up the good work

  • @hootenknives153
    @hootenknives153 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this video. I'm working with knife design myself so I love this challenge you set yourself

  • @ahmedshakir6967
    @ahmedshakir6967 5 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    How about you just befriend a beaver? You won't have to carry it, just attach a leash. It can fulfill all your wood processing requirements!

    • @BigHesh81
      @BigHesh81 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Up here (In Canada), we simply call this "Proving your citizenship." Plus, if your pet Polar Bear gets lonely, he has a buddy to play with. Aaand if he gets hungry...

    • @davidduffy9806
      @davidduffy9806 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I had thought the presenter was Ukrainian. I had no idea Beavers even lived in the Ukrainian

    • @ahmedshakir6967
      @ahmedshakir6967 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@davidduffy9806 Hmmm yeah I get your point... Nobody likes paying for shipping

    • @kanehunter23
      @kanehunter23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@ahmedshakir6967 Not a good idea I personally have had many Beavers as friends/companions and it always the same thing, lets go shopping, buy me stuff,where are you taking me for dinner, I want a ring, my mother said....Wholly crap ! You are better off NOT getting Beavers involved in anything.

    • @ahmedshakir6967
      @ahmedshakir6967 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kanehunter23 What about a platypus?

  • @jameshaulenbeek5931
    @jameshaulenbeek5931 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    You can still skeletonize the handle after epoxy. Maybe 5/16" to 3/8" holes. Three or four would help drastically reduce the weight.

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I have thought about that. I may use carbon fiber tubing to fill the holes. It would definitely cut a couple tenths😀👍👍

  • @joecoastie99
    @joecoastie99 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Criminally underrated channel. Maybe try G10 pins instead of brass. Drill countersunk lightening holes above the grind line?

  • @mikelikesknives428
    @mikelikesknives428 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't wait to see where this goes. Very cool project. The toughness testing should be fun. Good luck!

  • @runrin_
    @runrin_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    excited for this project. you might want to consider leaving 1 or more diagonal pieces of metal in the center of the hollowed out handle to add some rigidity. like a truss bridge. contouring your handle even more than the prototype might help as well. my concern with thinner stock is that you want a wedge shape to separate the wood while batoning. a thin knife will have a tendency to get stuck. perhaps you can get away with a thicker stock knife that is less tall to save weight (meaning from cutting edge to spine). maybe with a scandi grind?

  • @proactivex
    @proactivex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'm rooting for, and heckling you at the same time.

  • @49giants3
    @49giants3 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can’t wait for the next video. Thanks Alex!!

  • @TechnomancerTheWise
    @TechnomancerTheWise 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want more of this! You’re definitely into it

  • @m005kennedy
    @m005kennedy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good point about needing to use the paracord.

  • @richard66754
    @richard66754 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Moraknive sells blade blanks. I just ordered one and am going to make my own handle for it. No idea what kind of steel it is, but I just want to try and make the handle as my foray into knife making.

    • @random_eskimo_in_the_rockies
      @random_eskimo_in_the_rockies 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If it's stainless, it's 12C27. If it's carbon steel, it's UHB-20C which is a European version of 1095 with a bit of silicone added in which gives the knife a bit more flexibility.

    • @benjaminb1319
      @benjaminb1319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@random_eskimo_in_the_rockies silicone? like, the polymer?

    • @random_eskimo_in_the_rockies
      @random_eskimo_in_the_rockies 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@benjaminb1319 Sorry, that "e" should not be at the end. Silicon, the element silicon with an atomic weight of 14.

    • @benjaminb1319
      @benjaminb1319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@random_eskimo_in_the_rockies lol that was what I was thinking .

    • @benjaminb1319
      @benjaminb1319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@random_eskimo_in_the_rockies and the atomic mass of silicon is 28.09, atoms are far too small to find the true weight.

  • @alexanderfrench9236
    @alexanderfrench9236 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the edits, full value
    I actually got to the end and wanted more

  • @kaich369
    @kaich369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love how much this guys loves his knives.

    • @Gin132456
      @Gin132456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know right, it made me subscribe

    • @kaich369
      @kaich369 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Gin132456 same

  • @semco72057
    @semco72057 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I decided to reduce weight in my backpack by removing other items which I could do without and keep a decent knife on my utility belt and a decent bedding also.

    • @kekelaward
      @kekelaward 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But, but....my snivel gear!

    • @mikafoxx2717
      @mikafoxx2717 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But.. but.. my cast iron skillet.

  • @davidaxman
    @davidaxman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I few ideas came to me watching this! Taper the tang, use carbon fibre or aluminium pins and maybe wood is a lighter handle material? I was thinking about beech or birch for handle scales.

  • @alexbowman7330
    @alexbowman7330 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I totally agree with you on the paracord only handles speech. Haha.
    I use the Mora Classic no. 2. I love that for camping. Feathersticks, battoning kindling, etc...

  • @MrBrokenwrenches
    @MrBrokenwrenches 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not finding the perfect knife for me personally is exactly why I started making knives. Watching your journey has helped me immensely. Thank you.

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for taking the time to watch! It's always appreciated 👍👊

  • @eddiemason4316
    @eddiemason4316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Daniel Boone would laugh at the term "light weight gear".

    • @Rextrent
      @Rextrent 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Daniel Boone lived in a harsh reality and never laughed at terms. He never laughed, but might have lifted his eyebrows.

  • @devonsanterre8449
    @devonsanterre8449 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Take a look at the construction of the scales on the dpx hest original, they're slightly smaller than the tang itself (surprisingly comfortable) and they've been hollowed out for storage. Could shave a bit of weight that way. And I've seen some designs where the tang tapers off towards the back, likely for balancing but also would shave some grams. Good luck with your diet!

  • @davidcoats1037
    @davidcoats1037 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Alex I really like that first prototype. That is a great idea for an ultra light and very capable knife. I would not complain at all about the weight either but I’m still interested to see what you come up with. Great video! 👍🏼

  • @itshayappenshay6057
    @itshayappenshay6057 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done brother. Looking forward to the next installment.

  • @joshyingling
    @joshyingling 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I can send you a carbon fiber plate from the aircraft plant I used to work at, it's about 12x12x 1/4" thick

    • @Skelstoolbox
      @Skelstoolbox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      (just creamed pants)... (wishes it was sent to me...) yeah...

    • @mikerisher1536
      @mikerisher1536 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sign me up too

    • @jimmyhaley727
      @jimmyhaley727 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would make you one and me one,,, ole fart Jimmy

    • @shaneintegra
      @shaneintegra 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Toni Niemi the replacement blade knives are extremely awesome for that

    • @Rextrent
      @Rextrent 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The reason you used to work there? Because they were coming up short on supplies?

  • @nicolascancio1240
    @nicolascancio1240 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    What about a tapered tang? I'm also thinking about using a light wood. It would be a lot cheaper than carbon fiber and maybe even lighter.

    • @ssunfish
      @ssunfish 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Balsa wood is light but can be dented with a bit of pressure with your fingernail so...

    • @justinsane332
      @justinsane332 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ssunfish there are a ton of good choices for this. Balsa is not the wood to use for that regardless of weight. Don't understand why you even mentioned it

    • @slaterfrei7665
      @slaterfrei7665 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was about to say something about tapering the tang but it would be harder to make a the scales though.

    • @ABaumstumpf
      @ABaumstumpf 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ssunfish There are tons of ways to just make a durable shell around the soft wood.

    • @billycarr7446
      @billycarr7446 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How ya gonna stop the tang from wallowing out the balsa internally?

  • @nml5536
    @nml5536 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a cliffhanger!!! Cant wait for the follow up video!!

  • @thehomemadedisease9485
    @thehomemadedisease9485 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome, can't wait to see this unfold 🤘

  • @SondreGrneng
    @SondreGrneng 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Generally, I would say that "I want a knife that does a thing and meet a certain criteria, and it also happens to be an interesting engineering puzzle" is a good enough reason as any to make a knife.

    • @JCGver
      @JCGver 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very true, that said you probably win more weight reduction by having a good shit being going on the hike.

  • @Arctic2Noob
    @Arctic2Noob 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I've had a mora robust for a while and the only thing I would change about is adding just a little bit of length, looks like your ultimate knife is pretty much what I'd want out of mine as well

    • @Danielson1818
      @Danielson1818 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love my Mora Robust. If all you want is slightly more length, then they also make a thicker version of the Mora Companion. It's called the Companion HD (heavy duty). Less than $25.

    • @Spiritof48
      @Spiritof48 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Danielson1818 Yep , the HD is no less than a fantastic knife , and it is plenty strong enough to baton on . In destruction tests it does as good or better than many much more expensive knives .

  • @RedBeardOps
    @RedBeardOps 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool project! Putting the work in to make the ideal design is worth it for sure. #greatness

  • @antasosam8486
    @antasosam8486 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That's very true. Mora basic carbon is the knife. Got them three.

  • @John..18
    @John..18 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My Mora 2000 lives in my haversack, for day excursions, it's maybe just a packet of chewing gum heavier than your specifications. !! Lol,,,
    If you can nail down your parameters, I'll buy one, for sure,, (but only if it's stainless,, 12C27 ?),
    ha ha,, can't wait for the next installment,, cheers,,,,

  • @CrudelyMade
    @CrudelyMade 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    once you get your mars station knife figured out.. kickstart the sucker cuz I want one. ;-)

  • @lapicker1010
    @lapicker1010 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ahh geeky knife video…exactly what I was looking for!

  • @MiguelTorres-hg1kn
    @MiguelTorres-hg1kn 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work. Looking forward to the next steps

  • @DaroffApFire
    @DaroffApFire 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I'm all for designing your own knife, and I know you'll do a fantastic job, but I myself personally wouldn't be able to tell or physically notice the difference of 5 ounces in my bag. I'd happily carry the larger knife no matter what kind of hiking or camping I'm doing.

    • @everythingknife8763
      @everythingknife8763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I sell some hiking stuff at my store and and the lengths people go to in order to save a gram of weight is astounding. Squirting toothpaste dollops onto wax paper then letting them dry. I guess all the water in the toothpaste is too heavy.

    • @mikemcg3921
      @mikemcg3921 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree with you honestly but I think the idea is three items that are 5 ounces less is basically a pound --- so if you take 5 ounces off 9 items you've lost 3 pounds - and my pace is 64 steps per 100 meters--- so that is 3 pounds EVERY step or 192 for all the steps in just 100 meters. Again I DO agree I just carry the weight but then I just camp and do short hikes out to my locations in minimal mountainous terrain

    • @Arthurian.
      @Arthurian. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mikemcg3921 i had no idea people count paces and such. To me that's too serious, I'm not hating byt that is news to me.

    • @oceanwaves83
      @oceanwaves83 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Arthurian. I'm not sure he does count paces, lol. I was a surveyor for years and it takes me 36-37 steps to go 100 feet. That's about 115 steps for 100 meters. Accomplishing that in only 64 steps seems unrealistic, unless he is 10 foot tall.

    • @oceanwaves83
      @oceanwaves83 ปีที่แล้ว

      The online knife community is very obsessed with knife weight. They see very small knives like a Spyderco Native, para 3, and even the lil native or dragonfly as monstrously bulky weapons of war. I think they eventually want all knives to have hollow plastic handles and blade geometry like a box cutter razor. It's almost as if they despise durability. And of course, many of them believe that if the knife breaks for ANY reason it's because you were using it wrong. Lol

  • @mikeh9037
    @mikeh9037 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    How much for the orange 1084 prototype?

  • @backwoodsblades9280
    @backwoodsblades9280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like the first test blade. Nice job.

  • @DIABETICCHAD
    @DIABETICCHAD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the editing and love the personality! Just keep swimming :)

  • @asaholloway9139
    @asaholloway9139 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    love the idea. sounds like a great knife. For me though, id rather save weight elsewhere over my knife. This is coming from a guy who carries a kukri though lol

  • @dillonkology346
    @dillonkology346 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hollow grind would take out more material than a convex

    • @ahmedshakir6967
      @ahmedshakir6967 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea, I was thinking the same too

    • @daveticino1
      @daveticino1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ...Not good for batoning

    • @SamChaneyProductions
      @SamChaneyProductions 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right, I have no clue why he says convex would shave off weight... It has more material than even a flat grind. The reason his convex is lighter is just because he also increased the primary bevel height up to the spine

  • @alphadawg81
    @alphadawg81 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love the first knife you've made!!!!....and it's orange!!

  • @themitchwich
    @themitchwich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve been using a morakniv 4.1 inch for a few years now, and it has not disappointed. Retains its blade, even after many uses, like woodcarving and general cutting

  • @dwightehowell8179
    @dwightehowell8179 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Okay so I'm a lazy slob but a morakniv robust would seem to come close enough to me to meeting your standard and they are cheap.

    • @chrissexton6634
      @chrissexton6634 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have the 511 and love it... Ended up buying the kansbol great knife.

    • @dwightehowell8179
      @dwightehowell8179 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrissexton6634 I agree it is a great all around knife.

  • @joewamsley8004
    @joewamsley8004 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Idk... My 45 is a lot heavier and I happily carry that all the time.

    • @johnwamsley1896
      @johnwamsley1896 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Right, don't give us lame excuses about why you need a light knife with a solid handle, just tell us how to you'd make one.

    • @joewamsley8004
      @joewamsley8004 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@johnwamsley1896 It is funny how time makes a fool out of one... I started carrying my 22 cause it is lighter and has more rounds... I would take everything the lightest possible now...

    • @petset77
      @petset77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How well does it make a campfire? (like a good knife can) ...different priorities I guess.

    • @dirtysouthbushcraftandmma9784
      @dirtysouthbushcraftandmma9784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't be scared homie!

    • @petset77
      @petset77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dirtysouthbushcraftandmma9784, BINGO!. The video is about making a knife that works for hiking and camping, not about being so afraid that one feels he needs a large caliber firearm at his side. ...thus my question about his big gun whittling wood into kindling. Some of us go hiking all the time and rarely carry a sidearm or long rifle.

  • @ncode03
    @ncode03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree 100% on the weight. When I first started on hunting, I geeked out on specs of my shot gun and wanted to have the best with me but I learnt quickly that after a few hours walking in the rainforest, the weight can feel 2-3x the actual weight. That adds up when you need to carry your animal back, it's crazy. Now when I shop, I see first is the weight. It has to be some of the lightest I can find and the specs would be secondary. As long as it doesn't get lots of complains, I'm good to go. I'd get a light knife too when I'm walking that long and far

  • @kyplummer3657
    @kyplummer3657 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I totally agree with all this extra paracord stuff like boot laces and all that I feel the same about messing something up for some cordage.

  • @williamprendergast6510
    @williamprendergast6510 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent video my friend, that's food for thought or is it fool for thought.?Just buy a Mora companion knife that's all I use hunting or fishing or hiking and a black plastic sack and Butchers twine.I leave all my rifles and my huge knife collection in the gun room,i just subbed.Stay safe.

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The companion doesn't fit the design parameters i set in the video. Its not about the mora. It's about designing a knife to fit a specific use and specifications. Hope this helps make sense of this video 🙂 Thanks for the comment! And the sub! It's always appreciated 👍👍👊

  • @joescott803
    @joescott803 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Make a walking stick knife. Then the weight won’t be a issue. When hiking or in the woods you can’t skimp in a good knife and pistol

  • @Veilside8090
    @Veilside8090 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As some others have said, tapering the handle a bit, adding some jimping, and maybe removing part of the scales in the center where you cut the steel.

  • @KinuGrove
    @KinuGrove 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and looks like your having a lot of fun with this one.

  • @daveticino1
    @daveticino1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hollow carbon fiber pins are not expensive, and much lighter than your brass pins !

  • @joelcruz9858
    @joelcruz9858 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Taper the handle to shave off a few grams of weight

    • @dr.alkill5186
      @dr.alkill5186 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sameone wtf🤨

    • @beautifulmeeses
      @beautifulmeeses 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sameone that's super irrelevant. Why does your body shape have to do with how light you want your knife to be?

    • @TheCooperman666
      @TheCooperman666 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sameone Weight moves weight.

    • @ReasonAboveEverything
      @ReasonAboveEverything 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TheCooperman666 actin and myosin fibers move weight. Fat is part of the weight that is moved.

  • @SoulofSamurai
    @SoulofSamurai ปีที่แล้ว

    Alex, you don't have to explain it to anyone, if you want to try and make it, good luck, I'm with you all the way!

  • @derekwilliams3556
    @derekwilliams3556 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just found your videos a day ago.... I’ve watched quite a few since. Lol! You gotta come back... your videos are great!! They are timeless!! You gotta come back man!! I love your work! I hope to see more! I can’t wait to see more! I’ll be here when you get back! Damn good work! Laughing my ass off while learning at the same time! Great content!

  • @TimWatsonOutdoors
    @TimWatsonOutdoors 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    **heavy breathing and watching with interest**

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol😂 i will make one under 3oz, i will!!😂

  • @adityatiwary5106
    @adityatiwary5106 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First comment. Nice vid Alex. Can you do a vid where you show how to convert a v edge into a convex? Thx

  • @ChibiBoxing
    @ChibiBoxing 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You got me hooked with this proyect!

  • @elijahf111
    @elijahf111 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    @outdoors55 can I have the prototype 😐

    • @richardpowell4281
      @richardpowell4281 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      IKR, some of us ain't as worried about that 1 ounce 😂

  • @robot7759
    @robot7759 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All depends on intended use, there is no ultimate universal knife.

  • @ahschornjesus
    @ahschornjesus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i do really love my mora, it - being a budget knife - is truly amazing. Now this knife you made... Want

  • @randylahey1232
    @randylahey1232 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your sense of humor is cool!...Oh....and i like beimg as heavy as possible when i climb mountains thats why i strap sand bags to my arms neck legs and feet....makes me feel like a real man :-)

  • @williamprendergast6510
    @williamprendergast6510 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've got it a Bladeless knife without a handle.No,no don't thank me your welcome.

  • @richardcranium6554
    @richardcranium6554 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Eat your Wheaties. And hike with dehydrated water in your canteen. Ha.

    • @ssunfish
      @ssunfish 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Steven Wright: " I was going to buy some dehydrated water, but I didn't know what to add...."

  • @watermain48
    @watermain48 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looking forward to seeing what the super knife winds up looking and cutting like...

  • @gaylenrussell9368
    @gaylenrussell9368 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid. I like the Mora Basic handle. I would start there. A lite comfortable handle that really fits your hand. Yes I know everyone is a critic.

  • @joelboertlein5660
    @joelboertlein5660 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've watched a lot of videos on knife making, and I like yours best. Your explanations and knowledge are better than anyone before....well except for Shurap. Haha. Keep it up man!

  • @MichaelTessin
    @MichaelTessin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    congratulations on this entertaining video. you are getting better every time. i am a big fan.

  • @321jono
    @321jono 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I guess I like the nerdy stuff, cuz this was one of my favorite videos you've made man.

  • @mikeboone4425
    @mikeboone4425 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I understand your design challenge, bu tat 76 I'm to damn old to start worrying about weight now never did even think about weight until I started watching you tube . When I was taught about living in the out doors staying for a few weeks or more in the mountains weight was just not talked about we just took what we needed and dealt with it . I't's for the young to deal with ounces not me but we really like your knives and the way you make your video's stay safe out there . Happy trails

  • @GODtuber13
    @GODtuber13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'de love to buy one of these from you once you're finished.

  • @HollywoodTacticool
    @HollywoodTacticool 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    gosh, i can't believe how interesting this is! i must be a knife geek, but it wasn't endlessly fascinating. i think i must have the illness. i learned a lot. thanks.

  • @ardysmith9987
    @ardysmith9987 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video,I can't wait for the prototype an testing. My idea would be to router out scale from the inside to reduce weight an make them wider then add a cork insert to take up the space inside the handle,now I would seal the cork with a plastic coating before epoxying over it an I would use aluminum pins . A lot of prototypes to get it right but that's the fun of building an challenge yourself,you get experience an tested knowledge in real world experience. Keep up the good work Alex ,I still want you to make a Savage version of your knife with a Kukuri style blade mixed with your blade design on the Savage knife you made .

    • @thedillestpickle
      @thedillestpickle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can't imagine the cork would do anything there. I agree to hollow the scales, but no need for cork.

  • @seans5183
    @seans5183 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first knife with the orange handle is beautiful

  • @brucestuart8180
    @brucestuart8180 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Alex, every ounce counts!! I hear ya, it's like cutting my toothbrush handle in half and then drilling holes in the half that's left. Lol.......yes for real. Keep forging ahead with this. What about drilling a row of holes 2/3rds up from the cutting edge along the spine, I wouldn't expect this would affect the batoning capabilities.
    Cheers man, can't wait to see your solution.

  • @KT-cz7rm
    @KT-cz7rm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just found your channel. Learning alot! Just bought a mora for hiking. Checked those Spyder knives to but holy crap are they expensive.

  • @281covfefe5
    @281covfefe5 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting
    Looking forward 2 c what the end result is
    👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @13_13k
    @13_13k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like your vision and trying to achieve a goal for your personal wants in a knife.
    Myself, I choose the knife that I feel I'm going to need in any possible situation, while backpacking, camping, fishing, hunting, and whatever the weight is, that's what I have to carry. I've carried my Kukri on many occasions, but found it to be too big for some tasks, and I've carried inexpensive fixed blade garbage knives from the army surplus store.
    But my go to knife for the last 20 years or so is my Gerber LMF. It's in my opinion the perfect all around, do everything knife. The only other knife I would carry if I owned one would be the Gerber BMF. I still want to buy a BMF but they cost a lot of money. The size of the BMF is pushing the comfort zone in some situations but its size will be a life saver in some situations, also.
    The LMF is in the Goldilocks zone, not too big, not too small, but just right.

  • @RByrne
    @RByrne 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    MORA are amazing knives. When my Grandfather passed away i found one of the original ones in his basement while cleaning out his house. It had a lil cheap red plastic handle and thw bolster was loose. It had a flimsy plastic sheath, and want nearly as stout as the modern ones. But it only needed a lil cleaning as it had no rust, and a lil polishing to be an awesone knife.

  • @berlinetta350
    @berlinetta350 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Carbon fiber pins and scales. Also I would love to go camping/hiking/bushcrafting with you if you are ever looking for someone to go with. I live in the Poconos.

  • @MrCalicious
    @MrCalicious 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I made my own bushcraft knife because I couldn't find anything like it.
    It has 4.5" long, 3/16th" thick 1095 blade, chisel grind, full tang, and a hole in the center of the blade 1.5" from the end. Weird, I know.
    Why it works for me:
    - It can cut, whittle, skin, batton, strike ferro, and do anything any other knife can do, just about as well.
    - However, It can also function really well as a chisel, and be added to a quick bushcraft hand plane.
    - The hole at the end is great for cutting small dowels, or even wire.
    - The hole mates up to a hole in the kydex sheath that lets me flip the sheath and pin it with a dowel, giving me handles at both ends of the knife to act as a really good draw knife.
    It has really changed my bushcraft game.

  • @Rextrent
    @Rextrent 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Respectfully, this concern with the loss of a nearly-immeasurable weight is bulimic!
    Serious hiking though is life-and-death and some extra measure of comfort is an ounces-plus-ounces equation.
    Fun video. Thanks for your time and energy.

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok, so let me add 3oz of weight to EVERYTHING your carrying and wearing. No so immeasurable now??

  • @bill8885
    @bill8885 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite things. Backpacking and knives. I typically just go for the manix 2 lightweight as apposed to a fixed blade simply for the weight savings, knowing that i lose capability. I interested to see what you come up with